Even men think men are the problem

Quiet-Lotus · 2026-07-25T15:55:50+00:00

There are a lot of bad people out there, no one believes that all men are evil and all women are saints unless they are delusional.

On average, women are more vulnerable to men due to physical characteristics. That isn't saying men cant be hurt by women, just that on average it happens to women from men a lot more than the other way around.

I know i as a smaller person am more cautious of someone who is much larger and could do more physical harm to me than someone of a similar size. That is genetically wired in.

Neptune-Jnr · 2026-07-25T20:18:20+00:00

Their is a difference between men can be bad people and men in general are bad people.

Zoya_The_Destroyah · 2026-07-25T15:46:59+00:00

I think some of the disconnect is the lack of nuance in the language. I think we can all agree men, on average, pose a larger threat to women than other women do. That being said, it is laughable to imply that women are not at all part of the problem.

Men harm women more than women do but women do harm both men and other women.

Healthy-Pay-3351 · 2026-07-25T16:24:43+00:00

Third world country men yea.

wtknight · 2026-07-25T17:03:32+00:00

Sure. Many men think that some other men are the problem. Those individual men just do not want to be grouped in with those men, because they think that they are not part of the problem.

Used-Possession8296 · 2026-07-25T17:14:07+00:00

My take is that there are some problems caused by some men and some problems caused by some women. The worst examples of humanity always get the most attention. We also mainly focus on the issues harming our own community and only pay attention to the worst, if anything, affecting others. Very few men and Very few women are actually doing anything inherently bad.

Furell · 2026-07-25T19:27:48+00:00

If you are this stupid I would indeed suggest to you to think all men are evil because you will never be smart enough to distinguish the good from the bad. This also sounds like you really missed a good father figure, sad.

JamesCruse · 2026-07-25T15:57:53+00:00

So you're post is that other men in less fortunate countries seem to be threats?

That's not really a problem with males like us in our own countries though - with real laws and law enforcement.

I think even the media, women, men and large businesses are pointing the finger at western women as being more problematic than they've ever been in history.

So I'm not sure where you're getting your info from.

Can you cite some sources for this?

Hi-Road · 2026-07-25T19:04:01+00:00

i think men can easily say that men are, at the moment, causing the majority of harm in the world. cool.

but that doesn’t mean that women don’t cause a large amount of harm as well. this should be obvious. but ig we’re throwing away critical thought in favor of group power dynamics

brassbuffalo · 2026-07-25T19:41:28+00:00

What's the problem? If you can't define that how can people answer the question?

Livid-Log7463 · 2026-07-25T22:04:46+00:00

I don’t think that would be the first thing brought up at all, in fact the first thing brought up, aside from impending extinction, should simply be the logistics of essential jobs now going undone.

stars33d33 · 2026-07-25T15:47:53+00:00

Right and also men think women who have a body count are ruined, but how are they ruined? Oh bc she spent time with men, which implies that men ruin women. If men are good people how would they ruin a woman?

Present-Afternoon-70 · 2026-07-25T15:51:12+00:00

I don't know. A lot of men seem perfectly comfortable insisting that they aren't the problem, that women should do more emotional labor to fix men's problems, and that feminism has gone too far. The solutions they advocate almost always involve women giving something up rather than men changing their own behavior. There's a reason so much nostalgia points to 50 years ago—an era that was objectively worse for women's legal rights, economic independence, and social autonomy.

Barely-moral · 2026-07-25T15:49:01+00:00

Men and women are equally evil.

Men are better at committing violence than women.

See the difference?

I thought women were just as bad as men? I thought women could do just as much evil?

Women are as evil as men are. Women are not as efficient and capable of commiting violence as men are.

Why are you only talking about male cops, male military, and armed husbands protecting women from other men and not all the violent, unhinged female rapists and terrorists out there?

Because unhinged violent female rapists and terrorists can be dealt with by using only women. Unhinged violent male rapists and terrorists can't be dealth with by using only women. You need men to stop violent men.

They're pretty much implying that the male sex is the main thing standing in the way of world peace.

No. We are saying that women can't stop men from taking whatever they want through force unless they have men on their side.

Whiskeymyers75 · 2026-07-25T17:00:30+00:00

I don’t know who makes this claim. The first thing that will happen is all their infrastructure will literally crash. No food, no water, no electricity, no communications. Back to the Stone Age you go. I hope you can learn how to hunt.

WanabeInflatable · 2026-07-25T15:50:46+00:00

Yes, many men who are simps, white knights, most male feminists, men obsessed with women and sex are problem.

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Dramatic_Gopher42069 · 2026-07-26T21:41:52+00:00

Because be it their own sense of privilege/security (provided by men) or some extrapolated sense of heroism seeing something like Ballerina, Just Mercy, Black Widow, any modern Mary Sue movie/tv-show.... women just think they are right as rain in a vacuum that no uncomfortability will ever hinder.

Mindless-Rooster-533 · 2026-07-29T14:45:58+00:00

Men are not the problem as a whole but there is a sizeable minority that ruins it for literally everybody.

RuthLooks · 2026-08-20T05:10:21+00:00

This confuses acknowledging that men commit most serious physical violence with saying men are the problem. Those aren't the same claim.

Men bring up male invaders because men are physically stronger and dominate warfare. That doesn't mean women are incapable of evil. It means their aggression often takes different forms, and a nearly all-female society would struggle to defend itself against an organized male force.

The fact that men are usually needed to stop violent men doesn't make the male sex the obstacle to world peace. It shows why good men are necessary. Criminals and the people who stop them can belong to the same sex without the entire sex being the problem.

LopsidedPen9859 · 2026-07-25T15:51:32+00:00

Counterpoint: many women leaders throughout history have themselves started and participated in wars, to say nothing of the simple fact that lions and tigers and bears - oh my! - will still exist. Same with illness and natural disasters. And the mere fact that men are required to propagate the species and we have no alternative universe to determine what downsides could exist without men and especially fathers around at all.

Threats will always exist. And in modern times. Despite Fox News and the vibe, you've never been safer from men than today.

To say these things requires a degree of unwarranted presumption. It also isn't as if power and muscle differences don't exist among women - might they not take over as the physical intimidation crew themselves?

Do no all-female prisons have any violence at all?

abaxeron · 2026-07-25T16:23:11+00:00

I know some men ask women if they think men are the problem. And if they say yes,

I want these specific women to stay away from men. But since they share an ideology that 61% of women say describes them "very" or "somewhat well", I want all-male spaces, workplaces, hospitals, dining places, and gyms.

If a woman claims women in the U.S. can survive on their own with no males or an extremely small male population (<1%), the first thing men bring up is how women will not be safe because of

Cholera. I'm in water treatment for 7 years, the only woman I saw in business was a water plant owner's wife.

Pitiful_Progress_699 · 2026-07-25T17:52:45+00:00

Hmm I think a cultural narrative of men as protectors can be problematic but this post treats “men” as a single collective, blurring the distinction between men who commit violence and men who prevent it or never engage in violence.

It ignores that many men protect women in contexts that have nothing to do with male violence (natural disasters, accidents, medical emergencies, fires, etc.)

It can imply collective responsibility—that all men lose the ability to be considered protectors because some men are perpetrators. Many people, including myself, reject that logic

Expensive_Lion1807 · 2026-07-25T22:23:52+00:00

Most men will readily accept that other men are the problem. They can’t accept that they might be a problem (even if they absolutely are) or that they know any men who are a problem (even though statistically they absolutely do).

How many men will end a friendship with another man if they know that their friend mistreats women? Some, but certainly not all.

How many men freely (and unknowingly) associate with men who are predators? Hint: all of them.

How many men instinctively resist knowing? Make excuses for the man? Ignore clear signs because it’s uncomfortable or somehow “not their business”? Hint: most of them.

I guarantee that every man knows at least a few men who are “great guys” who are violent with the women in their lives.

I guarantee that every man knows at least a few men who are “great guys” who have sexually assaulted women.

Heck, I guarantee that every man knows at least one man who’s a “great guy” who has hidden kiddie porn files on his computer or phone.

Men do know this on some level, they just don’t apply this knowledge unless it’s about (maybe) their wives or their daughters (aka their possessions).

Professional_Bat8585 · 2026-07-25T15:55:25+00:00

They're pretty much implying that the male sex is the main thing standing in the way of world peace.

Correction - Human nature stands in the way of world peace. If men didn’t exist, women would be the ones carrying out the nonsense. This is like racists/caste-believers thinking that removing poor Brown people will get rid of the ghetto.

If you ever worked in an environment with high female ratio (middle management), you’d know that women are some of the most mindlessly ruthless and evil, backstabbing, un-peaceful people around, especially to other women. Currently modern college educated women are all too united in feminist gender war against men.

When your endless anti-male dogwhistling finally pays off and men are aborted/marginalized out of existence, society won’t simply become peaceful Hobbit-town. It’ll operate exactly the same.

Otjahe · 2026-07-25T16:10:04+00:00

Well it’s obvious that the world would be a whole lot more peaceful without men

Title	Even men think men are the problem
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Date	July 25, 2026 3:42 PM UTC (3 weeks ago)
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