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[–][deleted] 709 points710 points711 points 5 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link
The kind of men who get rejected never really discuss marriage or what their woman expects out of their relationship and then act hurt when the women actually expresses her opinion.
[–]PrincessCritterPantsFDS Newbie 144 points145 points146 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I would say they’re also the kind of men who like to say, when you’re breaking up with them, “but I was going to ask you to marry me!” As though that’s supposed to magically change your mind and take them back.
[–]CarpedictumFDS Newbie 58 points59 points60 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn’t want you a little bit, but you’re offering me A LOT? FOREVER? Yes, please!!!
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[–]denverkrisFDS Newbie 278 points279 points280 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Because they think all women are just sitting around waiting for the day when one of these toads will grace us with his proposal.
[–]PartypuppersFDS Apprentice 178 points179 points180 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah seriously, the middle of a mall is such an embarrassing place to propose or be proposed to!
[–]ydoiexistlolidkFDS Newbie 322 points323 points324 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yes! A engagement proposal should never be a surprise in of itself, only the time and place.
[–]Elisa_LaViudaNegraFDS Newbie 114 points115 points116 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not one part of my former engagement/proposal was a surprise. It was such a buzzkill. Men shouldn’t swing too far in the other direction either.
[–][deleted] 54 points55 points56 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
My boyfriend and I have discussed a timeline for marriage, but if he ended up popping the question in the middle of the hallway of a mall, I'd say no.
[–][deleted] 45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Everyone deserves better than a mall for sure
[–][deleted] 925 points926 points927 points 5 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link
"Someone's son."
Someone's daughter just got manipulated but let's not worry about that.
[–]ms_monquisFDS Disciple 126 points127 points128 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That phrase bothered me probably the most about that whole post.
Someone's son.
Someone's precious baby boy prince.
Protect the baby boy! At all costs (including all the someone's daughters — who cares, they aren't worth anything)!
[–]Bitchbasic65 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Also why is it “someone’s son” like he’s a child... that’s an adult ass MAN who is responsible for the consequences of his own decisions and can handle a little bit of rejection.
[–]unbotheredshrewFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They want to instigate more guilt by appealing to our so called "maternal instincts."
I am not fooled.
[–]daisyinflux 205 points206 points207 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Men are somehow always the victim even when they created the situation that victimized them...and women can never be victims. Whaaat!
[–]Street_Narwhal_3361FDS Newbie 136 points137 points138 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Someone failure, more like it.
[–]samarsharqiFDS Newbie 1281 points1282 points1283 points 5 years ago (72 children) | Copy Link
This pic always makes me think “he fucked up and thought this would fix it”
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[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie 100 points101 points102 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
woman
>chilling at the mall in her flip flops and Jean shorts enjoying her day
man
>well we can't be having that now can we?
[–]moonartemis1989FDS Newbie 32 points33 points34 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
omg yesssssssssssss
[–][deleted] 464 points465 points466 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I had a guy propose to me while I was breaking up with him. He had a ring and everything... Dude, how do you think I’m going to agree to spend the rest of my life with you when I just told you I don’t even want to date you?
[–]shroomypupperFDS Newbie 146 points147 points148 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Holy fuck why did the thought of this send me into full “I’m gonna die, where is my pepper spray” panic mode? 😅
[–][deleted] 97 points98 points99 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Idk, maybe it’s the thought of a LIFETIME commitment to someone you don’t actually want to be with? My anxiety is spiking.
[–]shroomypupperFDS Newbie 106 points107 points108 points 5 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
That, and the potential of being beaten to death by an angry man who naturally has more muscle mass and a much higher grip strength than I do 😬
Edit: ty for the award u/dondove :)
[–][deleted] 105 points106 points107 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Actually maybe the public proposal isn’t so bad. 😅
[–]shroomypupperFDS Newbie 52 points53 points54 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not sure who downvoted you because this definitely made me laugh out loud!
[–][deleted] 52 points53 points54 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha obviously a joke, but when you consider being beaten to death, maybe it’s better to have an audience. Oof.
[–]DonDoveFDS Newbie 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No problem! :)
[–]Wiggy_BopFDS Newbie 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because it happens way to often these days. 😬
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Disciple 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jfc. No way!
[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie 267 points268 points269 points 5 years ago (46 children) | Copy Link
Same reasoning when they try to trap a woman with a baby
[–]jfarmwell123FDS Newbie 272 points273 points274 points 5 years ago* (26 children) | Copy Link
Yeah exactly. I love when people say men don't do this. Yes, they do. ive had many sexual partners do manipulative shit like not pull out and keep going just to hide the fact they already came.
And then deny when I ask afterwards (only bc you can feel it coming out and it has a very specific smell). My ex did this to me as well after we rekindled and that's how I had my daughter. Same guy who proposed three days after I caught him cheating for the 80th time. Men babytrap more than women imo
[–]illegallyabbyFDS Newbie 165 points166 points167 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I was so surprised hearing about it from guys. The amount of times I’ve heard about them wanting to “trap” a girl the first time they fucked just because she was a baddie made me nauseous as fuck.
[–]werker115FDS Newbie 128 points129 points130 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yep I have heard men say that too, that they debate not pulling out if the woman is hot. My ex did it once and had a fit when I wanted to take plan B. Then he asked to do it again when I already told him I was likely ovulating that day..smh. We were not in a long relationship at all.
[–]illegallyabbyFDS Newbie 108 points109 points110 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They really think trapping a hot, self respecting woman is to get her pregnant. Never mind respecting her and treating her like a human being.
[–]werker115FDS Newbie 53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep what’s funny is the NEXT day after wanting to not pull out when I was ovulating, he ghosted for weeks.
[–]Classic_TouchFDS Newbie 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds about right. Till he gets horny again.
[–]AphoticEnigma_FDS Newbie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wtf that’s terrifying
[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
What the heck is a "baddie"?
[–]katnissssssPickmeisha™️ 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When she fly as hell
[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
A woman out of their league
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow.
[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They say it like “oh she baaaaad”
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's crazy. All the more reason to never give losers a chance.
[–]PahapanFDS Disciple 160 points161 points162 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I had a casual FWB stealth me one night. I was massively insecure with low self esteem, so rather than respond appropriately (be disgusted and never see him again) I took it as a compliment and from then on we never used condoms. Aside from the fact that pulling out isn't effective birth control, this guy was a fuckboy and casually hooked up with a ton of women. He didn't give a shit about the potential STDs he could be giving me. He was 10 years older than me and did nothing but use and manipulate me, a clearly inexperienced woman with issues. It makes me sick to think about.
Then there was my abusive ex who straight up reproductively coerced me and raped me. Took the condom off one night despite my protests and kept going, even though I tried to stop him. He said he'd pull out. And he did, for awhile. But he eventually shamelessly finished inside me. Casually mentioned that if I ever aborted he'd kill me. It only went downhill from there and culminated in me getting an abortion to escape him.
Men babytrap in the most violating, violent ways but society barely makes a peep about it.
[–]moonartemis1989FDS Newbie 56 points57 points58 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im so sorry about this my love, im disgusted for you. and ppl still ask women why do u hate men , smile more etc
[–]ivy176FDS Disciple 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's awful. I'm so sorry they did that to you.
My ex wanted to use no birth control AND told me he'd kill me if I DID get pregnant... a lot of men are just... senselessly shit
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Disciple 54 points55 points56 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yes. Truth. But dear god, don't tell the men on the childfree sub that. They're convinced women get knocked up to ruin men's lives.
The history of patriarchy missed them.
[–]Apricot_IbexFDS Newbie 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for bringing that up. Lots of misogyny on the childfree sub. Definitely some men with raging mommy issues getting off on blasting their favorite boogeymen of single moms, “moos” (so lovely to call mothers cows 🤮), body shaming and sl*t shaming pregnant women, saying “tits“ should only be out in public for men to ogle and not to breastfeed babies, and talking about women “ending men’s lives” by getting pregnant as if he had no contribution to it. 🙄 Fucking gross.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Disciple 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. Like, I'm childfree, but I'm rad fem too, so it's strange being in that space sometimes. There are some dudes who seem MRAs, others seem to hang there as a cope for not getting laid, others obviously hate all mothers. Some dudes try to center themselves when it comes to procreation, as if they do most of the work. Some people there are plenty cool, but...
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[–]Apricot_IbexFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Omg, yes, it's always some unhinged male getting a rage boner over a woman having the aUDaCiTy to be pregnant in public (i.e., gross and unfuckable looking- and "she's so proud of getting creampied but she's a useless mombie hurr durr") or daring to enter a grocery store with toddlers, and how he wants to drop kick her cRoTchFruIt for existing and steal their parking spot/seat on the subway. And women actually condone listening to this incel shit!
I tried to upvote you btw, but I have multiple Reddit stalkers, so please know I definitely did NOT downvote you! LOL!
[–]Classic_TouchFDS Newbie 49 points50 points51 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I had a ex bf who would throw my birth control into the toilet and then go on to say "He needed to spread his seed". Right after I went to leave. He chased after me slammed my head between the door. Splitting my head open. I was able to get into my car but so was he. I still tried to drive off but he grabbed the steering wheel trying to get me to hit a tree in his yard. So I stopped the car went inside to stop the bleeding and put up with it till he let me leave. In case anyone says it. Yes I called the cops on him often. Nothing ever happened. Yes his parents even knew. In stead his mom said to pray and his dad tried to sleep with me. Had to leave the state to get away from him. I did end up getting pregnant but aborted the baby. Had it done why he was in jail for a few days. Then had to lie my butt off saying I wasn't pregnant. Had his religious mom begging me not to do it. Saying she would take care of the child. Yeah no not after what I saw she raised.
[–]ivy176FDS Disciple 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So evil. Wtf is wrong with people? What on earth was going through his mind to want children? Even if he dumped them he could still owe child support. You'd think even deranged psychos would be against that. Glad you got rid of the piece of shit guy
[–]InternationalHope8FDS Newbie 153 points154 points155 points 5 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
I wish abortion wasn’t so stigmatized, that is an option if a lvm tries to trap a woman.
[–][deleted] 115 points116 points117 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
I’m pro choice for sure, but I’m even more for not fucking LVM in the first place...
[–]InternationalHope8FDS Newbie 109 points110 points111 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Agreed, and I’m for using birth control (IUDs were a game changer for me). It’s just if for whatever reason a woman finds herself pregnant by a lvm, she doesn’t have to go through with the pregnancy. Too many women end up going through with it and have their lives permanently altered because they think they don’t have any other choice when there is nothing wrong with abortion. The idea that abortion is wrong is based purely on a religious construct.
[–][deleted] 75 points76 points77 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Catch it early enough it's a clump of cells. Why spend 18 years of your life tied to a dead beat dad especially if you have a daughter. What do you think your daughter would grow up seeing? Some guy still making their moms life miserable.
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[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I had an abusive father that treated my mom like shit. It fucked me up long term and I would have preferred not to be born at all.
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[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
How are abortions eugenics? Keeping a woman poor and struggling most of her life sounds a lot worse than getting an abortion. If you live in the US there is already a lot of classism. This country will not help single moms succeed.
[–]Squidwrd_Tortellini13 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
how is being born with a shitty life better than not being born at all
[–][deleted] 85 points86 points87 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Diamond_fairyFDS Apprentice 577 points578 points579 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Whoever puts a woman on the spot on such a sensitive topic, without being sure that:
...kind of deserves to be left there with a middle finger.
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[–]Diamond_fairyFDS Apprentice 154 points155 points156 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's really disgusting... I've seen here on Reddit some pickmes defending their NVM that proposed during someone else's baby shower or marriage and they not only said yes but went on to whine about the host disappointment.
He would be a total scumbag, but if she even dares to say yes in those situations, the whole couple has to get out of it and never return in my life.
[–]yesmmeFDS Newbie 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s so disrespectful, self centered, and attention seeking
[–]GIfuckingJaneFDS STRATEGY COACH 564 points565 points566 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Society always places the emotional burden on the woman. Say yes to appease him so he doesn't lose face in public! Who cares how she feels! Who cares about HER embarrassment!
I was thinking about this today. No one cares about a woman's pride. Our egos. Im sick of the world revolving around men and their selfishness.
[–][deleted] 154 points155 points156 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The thing about this too is if she says yes to be nice with the intention of telling him no later that night, what happens if he blasts “she said yes!” all over social media? Now she’s an even bigger asshole for it being public to all his friends and family.
The woman can’t win here. She did the right thing by saying no straight away.
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[–]Eris_the_FairFDS Newbie 55 points56 points57 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would bet money he and his mother, would judge her as much or more for saying yes to avoid embarrassment, then going back on it later. At least this way, someone in the crowd gave him a pat on the back or something.
[–]localgirlcultFDS Apprentice 405 points406 points407 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
What is this "someone's son" bullshit I've been seeing lately? Everyone has parents. Good or bad parents but they have them. Since when is that special? I'm someone's daughter. And?
I applaud these public rejections. He had to know this could happen. You can't be in a relationship and not know if she wants this. Public pressure isn't gonna save your relationship. God, this is so gross and awkward. All those people standing around filming them. It's like the worst zoo.
[–][deleted] 130 points131 points132 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly!!!!! Why put boys up on a pedestal with this “someone’s son” bullshit?! It’s super cringey and just furthers the notion that men are delicate “pride and joys” and we need to coddle them as if we were their mothers.
[–]caneringFDS Newbie 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s the same thing as “men, how would you feel if your mother/sister/wife/daughter was raped/harassed? So don’t do it!” Like, ok, obviously? But why do women have to “belong” to somebody to matter? How about not doing something because you know it’s wrong on its own, and that every person has value and dignity no matter what? I guess I understand that this framing can successfully appeal to men and that in itself might make it worth repeating. But it’s not addressing any of the actual social reasons why misogyny and sexual violence happen in the first place
[–]valleycupcakeFDS Newbie 90 points91 points92 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Funny, I usually see it the other way. Women referred to as “someone’s daughter” as if they aren’t “someone” in their own right.
[–]Mamma_Midnight 46 points47 points48 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
'Someone's daughter' is about turning the woman into the possession of a man, whereas 'someones son' is about reframing the man as a child that needs to be nurtured, cared for & mothered - this means he can't be treated like an adult, held to account or held responsible for his actions.
This framing switches the woman holding the man to account into a bully picking on a child (aw poor boy being picked on by the big nasty demanding evil woman). It also attempts to trigger female socialisation to 'mother' and 'protect' in order to stop the woman from asserting her boundaries or holding the man to account.
Both framings are used to manipulate, shame & control women for the benefit of men.
[–]valleycupcakeFDS Newbie 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Interesting, thanks for sharing that insight!
[–]localgirlcultFDS Apprentice 47 points48 points49 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've seen both and I don't understand the trend. It's not either or. Here it was used to justify him so I focused on that. I've seen it used for women to shame them for mild sexual things. As if it is a shame to your parents that you are not a nun.
[–]miphasgracefulFDS Apprentice 228 points229 points230 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
If a guy did this to me (propose so publicly), I would have to say no because he clearly doesn’t know one of my fundamental personality traits- introversion. This feels like she’s been painted into a corner. Good for her for still sticking by her decision, even with the pressure of a crowd.
[–]lilac2481FDS Newbie 72 points73 points74 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm introverted as well. I don't even like telling restaurants its my birthday if I go out to one.
[–]miphasgracefulFDS Apprentice 76 points77 points78 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There’s absolutely nothing romantic or individualized about the way this guy proposed. I looked up the marriage proposal fail video where this clip came from, and it’s cringe all the way through. The way he corrals random people at the mall to stand by and watch (boost his ego), the fact he’s the only one dressed up, all of this shows me he’s more about appearances than wanting to marry this girl.
And NO, you shouldn’t accept the ring only to return it later to save face. Y’all aren’t getting married for the public’s benefit.
[–]miphasgracefulFDS Apprentice 39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Same here. I think the thing that gets me the most is that if he doesn’t respect something so innately part of yourself and instead chooses to pull off some kind of big love gesture... it’s such a high level of disrespect. So, no, I don’t pity or sympathize with this dude’s disappointment. It was deserved.
[–]husheveryoneFDS Apprentice 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely. This was all about his ego and triangulation with random strangers for “what a great guy!” kudos when he’s in fact just a garden variety attention whore.
[–]Street_Narwhal_3361FDS Newbie 54 points55 points56 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You were too good for his non-existing ass, I swear the bar is lower each day
[–]PartypuppersFDS Apprentice 40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how there is a bunch of supportive women offering support and validation for this imaginary scenario loool. Love this sub.
[–][deleted] 77 points78 points79 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This subreddit never fails. It's like the gift that keeps on giving. Finally a group of people that I can understand and understand me! Soul Sisters
This subreddit never fails. It's like the gift that keeps on giving. Finally a group of people that I can understand and understand me!
Soul Sisters
[–]AyxmiiiFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This.
[–]just-peepin-at-uFDS Newbie 115 points116 points117 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
“Someone’s son,” there y’all go. Parents didn’t teach him not to do this and have taught him that it is up to women to accommodate his emotional needs at their own expense. Edit: Proposing at a shopping mall? I get fancy proposals, dinner proposals, and private proposals, but this?
[–][deleted] 40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It blows my mind that someone would propose marriage without knowing the answer first. This is not the woman’s fault and she is under no obligation to accept his offer so he can save face.
[–]rightioushippie 153 points154 points155 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Don’t waste another moment of your time gently coddling someone’s feelings who was not even considering yours.
Edit: a word
[–]LadyKaitlyn16 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
This is so true, he got exactly the result he should have expected if he had thought about her reaction at all.
^(Also I'm sorry but "waste" would be the correct spelling.)
[–]rightioushippie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True! Thanks
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[–]enoughalready4meFDS Newbie 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you know my nephew? That's what he did. It was super sweet- and covid safe!
[–]NoogirlFDS Newbie 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Who took the video? Or am I being super dim?
[–]HengroenAndLlamrei25 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I believe he hired a company.
[–]NoogirlFDS Newbie 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Omg - I was imagining a friend hiding in the bushes!
[–]FeminineImperativeFDS Newbie 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If it was a drone, probably him.
[–][deleted] 53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
Men manipulate and they do use women for money, very wealthy men do this as well. Don’t assume because he is a self made man he won’t ask you to go 50/50 for expenses when he makes five times more, or that he won’t fight child support. My ex used to tell me it was his dream to marry a wealthy woman he would even hang out in expensive bars trying to pick one up, he himself had millions. But he wanted her to have fuck your money, no other attributes even mattered. Naturally he thought all regular women were gold diggers.
[–]fairywakesFDS Newbie 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Wow. It takes one to know one.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah he had melt downs when I gave homeless people money or would give my gently used designer bags I wasn’t carrying anymore (that I bought) to friends who couldn’t afford expensive things. It was astounding. I eventually just stopped telling him about my business. I had to convince him once to stop by a store to buy flowers when his mother was in the hospital. He is a pure typical narcissist.
[–]fairywakesFDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Melt downs about what exactly? That it wasn’t attention going to him? LMAO
Convince him to buy his I’ll mother flowers. I’m shaken
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It was a fight too! He was convinced his mother would not like flowers. We bought her flowers and fruit and she was very grateful. She had effen cancer too. Makes me angry to even type this.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah he had melt downs when I gave homeless people money
Ugh. This is on my list of deal-breakers. Both of my exes would throw a fit whenever I gave money to charities or individual homeless people. In their minds, every penny I gave to charity was a penny they weren't getting for video games and other nonsense, so they had the nerve to feel justified in being upset about it. One asshole even got his older brother to lecture me about giving to charity when we (I) was supposed to be saving up for our vacation. Now, if a guy has any comment or reaction at all to my charitable giving other than to open his own wallet, I'm out immediately.
[–]strawbri_FDS Newbie 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I hate the use of "someones son" or "someones daughter" to shame people.
[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I scrrreamed when I read 'someone's son'. Took me right out
[–]SirCrowDevoidOfCornFDS Newbie 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe I'll start referring to all men as "porn user",
[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes!!!
[–]draconicommaThrowaway Account 22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They act like there’s no possibility that someone’s daughter won’t get harmed by someone’s son if she lied publicly with a yes and then rejected it within the privacy of their home later. But who cares! Someone’s son is very upset and embarrassed and just oh-so-humiliated, will he ever love again???? /s🤦🏽♀️
[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
"don't embarrass someone's son". Someone's son embarrassed themselves. Don't put people on the spot like that, it's manipulative .
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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And they say women are sensitive 😂. They need to get over it. No one is obligated to marry
[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men have a vested interest in managing to get women to marry them, they are the ones to benefit from marriage to begin with. But they just ain't ready for that conversation
[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sound like someone need to come collect they son... Smh
[–][deleted] 73 points74 points75 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
proposing should be an intimate moment between two people .
[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I mean this is pretty much 100% - their entire sexual strategy is find a high pressure situation as to which a woman can’t say no or is too disoriented and try and get laid. Buncha car salesmen trying to offload lemons.
[–]husheveryoneFDS Apprentice 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
🍋!!! Amen, well said. These salesmen are gross AF.
[–]muppet_fisterFDS Newbie 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm not sure where this trend started, but y'all should discuss marriage BEFORE the proposal. A proposal should not be a 50/50 roll on whether she's gonna say yes or no. Sure it "ruins" the surprise, but discussing whether marriage is on the table, your expectations of where to/not to propose and in what timeframe you wanna tie the knot happen before even buying a ring. Marriage is a huge responsibility so don't be putting people on the spot, ffs.
[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't like surprises
[–]ThesociodarkFDS Newbie 36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She couldn't win in this situation. Rejects him in front of everyone = heartless bitch. Accepts just to backpedal in private = manipulative, lying bitch. He is the one who should have think about this.
[–]GlitterMarsFDS Newbie 46 points47 points48 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Okay, but what if there's a friend or acquaintance in the crowd? Then they're going to find out about the rejection anyway later, so I think in a situation like this we should just say yes and marry them, even if they're cheating, abusive or whatever. Right? As long as their pride doesn't get hurt. /s of course
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even if he’s sure she wants to marry him she may not like that kind of public attention. I made it very clear to my husband when we were discussing marriage that I would not appreciate a public proposal. This is selfish as hell. He’s not doing it because it’s what she wants. He’s doing it so he can receive praise and attention.
[–]kgerleanFDS Newbie 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A man who truly wants to marry me, knows how to propose. These are conversations to be had long before a ring is purchased. My BFF’s husband had a surprise public proposal planned and asked me to go with him to pick out the ring and I told him she’d hate that proposal, so he planned a different, perfect proposal for her. She loved it!
[–]AlextheAnalystFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you think that some men are genuinely dumb about these things, and think women want what rom-coms say we want? Because your friend's husband changed his plans after talking to his wife's female friend. He seemed like he was genuinely trying to please her, just had it wrong, but was willing to listen and learn.
(Not that it makes a difference, total idiocy is still a pretty bad start to a marriage...)
[–][deleted] 43 points44 points45 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If he can only do the right thing in public then best believe he can't do the right thing in private.
Don't embarrass "someone's daughter" by trying to manipulate her into a lifetime commitment in front of a bunch of strangers blissfully unaware of the crustiness of your ass.
[–]Unfit_NeedleworkerFDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Someone’s SoN” look how emphasis is put on the fact that it’s someone’s man child.
[–]Apricot_IbexFDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Doing this without any prior consent and planning means the person proposing should prepare for possible public rejection and humiliation by putting their partner on the spot like that. It’s awkward and embarrassing for both parties. Saying yes and then backing out later would draw criticism too for “lying.” What is the recipient expected to do, then?!
The worst I’ve ever seen online is a woman trying to discuss some very important work she’s doing in a professional interview and her bf just barges onto the set, cuts her off, and proposes in the middle of it. She was NOT pleased, and he was at a loss. So narcissistic and clueless to take her moment away and make it all about himself, like he couldn’t stand that she had a career and life outside of him. 🚩🚩 🚩 He should’ve known her better than to do that. I would never do that to my partner while they’re in a professional interview. It shows utter disrespect.
[–]Pudding5050Pickmeisha™️ 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't propose in public if you cannot handle rejection in public. You chose where to do it, knowing the risk. Manipulative assholes.
[–]cantstopthemachine77FDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, notice how men and their feelings are automatically prioritized and regarded with humanizing sympathy, by being described as “someone’s son”....
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're supposed to talk about it beforehand. He should be sure she wants it, a marriage requires a deeper conversation than an awkward proposal in public. And she always has the right to say no. I don't give fuck that this is someone's son. I'm someone's daughter.
[–]Phoenix__Rising2018Ruthless Strategist 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The LVM are reporting this post like crazy! 🤣😂
[–]chorussaurusFDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Opinion: DO NOT propose to me in a mall.
[–]SavingsStrength0FDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Olivia Gatwood’s “Say No” poem (I think it’s on YouTube!) is what I always think of whenever some dude does one of these big crowded proposals like it’s scary accurate how on point she is about it.
[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
>They will curse the day you learned any other words besides yes and sorry.
That line resonated with me on a profound level.
[–]SavingsStrength0FDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The ending always gives me chills and not in a good way:’(
[–]YesPleaseMadamFDS Newbie 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the type of guy that thinks coercing someone to accept a proposal in public is acceptable is the type of guy that beats the shit out of a woman that returns the ring later. no thanks. in public he will have to control his temper.
[–]Nifteroni-and-CheeseFDS Newbie 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My mom has a funny story about a friend of hers who’s boyfriend asked if she wanted to marry him while just chillin on the couch, no ring, no plan, and she responded “are you fucking high?!?”
He was, indeed, fucking high.
[–]PasDeToutFDS Newbie 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never do public proposals. It’s manipulative and coercive af.
[–]vardebiFDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The caption is GOLD, that is the ENTIRE story of Men.
[–]Noemie_MathildeFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very public engagements with "an audience"=sooo tacky
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How 'bout - Find a private place to propose to the woman. Don't embarrass someone's daughter in public. Matter settled.
[–]ivy176FDS Disciple 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope. If something's not right then just say no.
Women are taught to never say no and then they wonder why we stayed in abusive relationships or didn't scream and try to kill the guy while being raped.
Proposing isn't always a kind thing to do, or a selfless thing or a favour. It can be inappropriate, inconsiderate, desperate, manipulative, pushy or even abusive in certain situations. What if he cheated on her and now is trying to push her to get back together with a proposal?
[–]honcho713FDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More Style Coming Soon.
[–]riricideFDS Apprentice 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm half sure this is some staged commercial, but if it's not that lady is walking away like a total boss lol. And the comment about "returning it later" is just 🙄. I'd say it's worse to do that if the proposal was genuine. Just say no and move on.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men aren't manipulative?!?!?! WTF is PUA and negging, then?!!
I get it though, I grew up with a lot of internalized misogyny and also thought that women were the manipulative ones while men were direct. Maybe it used to be that way. Not anymore!!!!!
[–]ciceriiFDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't understand how someone wouldn't know whether or not she would say yes. This isn't 1560 where men saw a woman twice and proposed. People nowadays discuss marriage and know they are getting married don't they? It's not like the man is the one who chooses whether or not to propose. Most healthy couples have an understanding it will happen and the proposal is just a matter of time and place.
[–]aTophMFFDS Newbie 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t understand why someone proposes without being sure if the other person will say yes or not. It’s something for life (intended to be lol) so it’s normal to discuss these life changes and see where the other person stands. You can still make the proposal special or a surprise, but you should be sure that you’re on the same wavelength as your SO.
That’s exactly what it is. They’re trying to force her to say yes. They want her pressured to say yes.
[–]oh_shit_oh_fuck4 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Accept the ring, keep it and dump him in the 🗑
[–]RadioactiveJoyFDS Disciple 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unfortunately in a lot places your are not legally allowed to do that. Yeah I had to look it up before lmao
[–]Waste-WinFDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of you feel ready for a public propousal, you should be ready for a public rejection too.
[–]caneringFDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who proposes without discussing it thoroughly first ? Like how does that even work? Why would you do that to anyone but even yourself? I don’t really have an issue with public proposals (although I’d never want or do it myself) if that’s what the couple is into but you better be damn sure it’s 100% what you/partner wants. No sympathy
[–]warinmymind94FDS Disciple 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you aren't complety sure you want to marry him or its a low effort proposal you have every right to say no. Tf is this bs I can't believe the meme is telling women to protect a man's fragile ego.
So they want women to be fake, and then call us two faced? Because even if we do that, the male will still have to go and tell all the friends and family that he got rejected later on :) "DoNt hUrT sOmEOnEs SoN LikE ThAt"
[–]aquarieuxFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men forget that marriage is a huge commitment and an even bigger life change, especially when you look at the statistics and see that women who marry tend to lose years off their lives. You don't spring that on your partner as a surprise, especially in public in front of a crowd. Don't spare men their feelings.
[–]manwatheil_undomielFDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fucking "matter settled" acting like he actually did something. Who put this scrote in charge?
[–]daggeriteFDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is why I hate public proposals. bitch i got ptsd. i got the hyperactive vigilant issues, tf?? I'd run 😂😂😂
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He should be prepared for her to say no if he asks in public But, I watched the video and it was actually a prank. The guy and the girl wanted to see how people would react if she said No.
[–]AlextheAnalystFDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You embarrassed yourself in front of Derek Jeeter.
[–]Pickled_Tink_TeaPickmeisha™️ 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is how I got trapped in to getting married at 19.
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[+]Fluffy-Steak-1516Pickmeisha™️ -31 points-30 points-29 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
But how are you sure that’s the circumstance for every situation though?
[–]FeminineImperativeFDS Newbie 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Your flair is wrong. Can we get a mod to pickme this gal?
[+]Fluffy-Steak-1516Pickmeisha™️ -19 points-18 points-17 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
LOOOOOOOL OKAY MAAM. Bc you disagree with me, I’m a pickme? sksksksjsk.
So if I’ve spoken to my man about getting married and we are both in agreement, but he publicly proposes, he’s manipulative?? LOOOOLLLLL
weirdo💀💀💀
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[–]FeminineImperativeFDS Newbie 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why are you even here? In 3 comments you've made it 100% clear that you disagree with fds completely and demonstrated a commitment to missing the point.
[–]Josef20076 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro probably just thought it was a good spot. Half of this sub acts as if men were selfish, sexist and sex depraved monsters.
[–]Normal-Pension-7283 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is just some bleu / pink haired sjw leftwinged bulshit
[–]Mystro_22 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Disgraceful (I’m a guy)
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