N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD

relish5k · 2023-09-09T03:55:05+00:00

Some of y’all talk about vaginas as if they are zero sum.

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-09-08T15:11:15+00:00

I prefer guys with a body count at least 3-4x as high as mine.

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-09-07T18:18:22+00:00

If the "good part" of a relationship is the sex, maybe stay single.

Sex makes up a fraction of a good relationship.

Seems like the ones who focus on sex the most have had the least experience with sex.

itm4l2000 · 2023-09-06T19:44:00+00:00

had this discussion with a friend. she can be a ex hoe just not in this town. i agree. men went to secure their offspring and thst hoeness in the same town inflames this insecurity.

HmanTheChicken · 2023-09-06T16:33:47+00:00

I don’t even care about an N count. I just don’t see why I should invest time, buy a ring, clean up baby vomit, get nagged, etc while some other guy just got the good part of a relationship and didn’t commit anything.

Glad I’m marrying a religious girl lol

RahLyt · 2023-09-06T08:39:40+00:00

I find it very weird women here use men not asking them about their body count as proof that most men don't care.

I never asked for anyone's body count but I always cared since I remember. Why would I?

If I'm seeing a girl and understand she's promiscuous we will just see each other until we don't. I won't explain that's the reason why I don't want anything serious with her. It literally has 0 benefits for me to do so.

SlowEffective8146 · 2023-09-06T01:23:06+00:00

Below average women seem to have the highest bodycounts. I think this is mostly due to them not being able to lock down the men they're sleeping with, forcing them to repeatedly be pump and dumped.

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-09-05T17:51:12+00:00

Below average men seem to care the most.

Likely because they have the least experiences, they compare their few sexual experiences and assume that every woman would do the same.

StayEmbarrassed1747 · 2023-09-05T13:10:08+00:00

These days I assume every women I match with/date has a sexual history I would find repulsive.

This is actually a huge advantage because it's impossible for me to catch feelings unless something about them can prove otherwise, and I never have to ask any questions. This allows me to treat every woman as just for fun, which makes them want me even more lol.

WilliamWyattD · 2023-09-04T21:36:34+00:00

There is an evolved ick for promiscuity for females that is larger, and sets in at lower levels of promiscuity, than for women. Even women feel the asymmetry IMO, though not so much as men.

But it is not the strongest of impulses. There are still some good reasons for it, but technology has rendered the strongest ones moot.

So the question is what to do with it.

ChancreMechanic · 2023-09-04T12:15:59+00:00

I think the funniest argument against caring about body count is people saying that women with lots of partners will have a PhD in sex and be masters at it. This feels like a stupid fantasy arrived at by binging Sex and the City and porn. Pleasing a man isn't hard at all, honestly, in my experience, and if your girlfriend or wife loves you, she will ask you what you like and work at it. It differs per man, and especially per woman, so even if you have ample experience, you will have to communicate and test it out, and if you love each other that will be a pleasant and rewarding experience. What actually matters for 'better' sex is physical fitness, stamina, being open to each other's desires, love.

Body count is such a hot topic because women just can't get over the fact that men care. Sorry -- I just don't like it when you have done the most intimate act possible with several other men before me, nor do my friends, nor will you ever convince society at large, because it's a primal disgust that you can't reason away. It's also supported by statistics, which clearly show that marriages between people with fewer sexual partners are more longer lasting. If you want to fuck around, fine, but take responsibility for your actions. I was reading old Chinese novels, and wouldn't you know it, this completely different culture also favored chastity and modesty. Almost as if it's universal.

SlowEffective8146 · 2023-09-04T01:33:59+00:00

Q4W- Be honest, what percentage of men do you think care about bodycount on some level?

OkLingonberryx · 2023-09-03T18:46:56+00:00

I just want to get to 1 before ED kicks in.

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-09-03T18:02:18+00:00

I think I'll get to 50 and then retire. Settle down with a nice alpha Chad and refuse to have his babies while he cooks for me.

This is the way.

StupidWhiteBoi · 2023-09-03T16:59:03+00:00

Secular people, atheist, agnostics, born agains, and Christian in name only people still use the same trite arguments.

Sex isn't just girth, length, size, and body movement and gyrations. It's a reproductive act. Even Left leaning Redditors inadvertently tell you promiscuous women get it out of their system, it's a scratch, an itch. AKA they are "bored"

redheadtingz · 2023-09-03T16:19:04+00:00

Why do some men care about n-count and others don’t?

After my divorce I went out with a guy around my age, he was 26. He was a good looking guy, no reason to be insecure about himself. On the night of our first date I gave him a handjob. He enjoyed it, but after that he got all weird. He started getting anxiety about how many guys I’ve been with and if I really did like him or not. I told him that I voluntarily gave him a handjob and I wouldn’t do that if I didn’t like him. That calmed his nerves until we had sex. Apparently I was too good and it scared him into thinking I was a slut. I had to end things after that, he was an absolute mess.

About a year later I met my fiancé. He was 39 when we met. I work at a bikini barista stand and he would come by a couple times a week. I found him very attractive and one day I pulled my top up to give him a better look. He took me out to dinner that night and we had sex at his place. I asked him if he thought I was a slut, but he said he’s so glad I love to fuck and he was hot enough for me to bang on the first date. He said he fell in love with me that night.

These are just my experiences with both ends of the spectrum. What makes some men care, and others not? Is it age? Confidence? Is it just wired into us?

dccidal · 2023-09-03T14:52:11+00:00

It's worse to be a virgin man than a promiscuous woman. If you are a promiscuous woman the men shaming you are the delusional coping redpillers who are not the kinds of men that women like anyway. If you are a virgin man then you will be seen as weird by all types of women. Having participated in casual sex or having relationship experience is pretty much expected at a certain age. No one cares about your "n-count" IRL. Yeah no one cares because everyone by default assumes that you've participated before. If it ever comes up that you havent participated as a man, then all of a sudden it matters now and now you weird asf and alarm bells are going off in her head. When people say "no one cares" it really means "no one cares as long as you not a virgin man in which case the situation must be further investigated before proceeding"😂

MrBrittle · 2023-09-03T13:13:56+00:00

The less the better. Ideally, both of you are virgins, but I recognize that being a voluntary virgin requires a lot of self-control depending on how much libido you have.

It's something that Christianity said and later proved to be true statistically, as well as being observable via anecdotal evidence.

100PercentNattyBrah · 2023-09-03T10:20:32+00:00

Jesus and here I was thinking that we'd get a different topic for a change this week, but no, we're back on body count.

Oh well, at least with body count it's fairly easy to get under people's skin on this sub.

purplish_possum · 2023-09-03T05:38:12+00:00

As long as she's a slut rather than a hoe I don't care how many guys she's fucked.

sweetestpineapple · 2023-09-03T03:25:24+00:00

For me, under 2 or over 25 are red flags. I’m in my late 20’s and date people in my age range. At this point, 2 or less partners points to antisocial behavior and someone who doesn’t have enough experience to know what they want. Sleeping with 2 different people provides some variety at least before settling down. Of course there’s some exceptions, like if they broke up with their high school sweetheart in college then had one more relationship for a few years. 25+ would show a lack of commitment and a lack of judgment or standards. Having a few one night stands or FWB (that you cut off and unfollow once you start a new relationship) in between relationships is fine. I usually have ~2 hookups in between LTRs as a mini ho phase.

Opening_Pattern_301 · 2023-09-03T01:55:16+00:00

The best way to avoid them hoes like the plague is to actively search for that woman you like rather than defensively trying to avoid what you dont like.

For example is pretty obvious a woman with dyed hair, loads of piercings and tattoos has been the toy of many douchebags, any guy who cares about the past would be an idiot approaching a woman like that for anything long term.

Unfortunately in real life not all poisonous animals have developed such warning mechanisms, so the best thing to do is to define what kind of values women with low n have, and filter based on those values, that has worked for me three times as of now, and if they say they share those values, you can press them about it, that way you can spot those "born again virgins" and "people change" dumb hoes.

avgprius · 2023-09-03T01:34:17+00:00

If there are any onlyfans girl in the audience, i for one cook clean and am in good shape

Uglypostwall · 2023-09-03T00:36:25+00:00

I am jealous of man's ability to seperate sex and love.It is kind of bothering to see hign n count man still doing fine and even getting good low n count woman while I am just existing as bitter woman lol

ilovesoundtracks1 · 2023-09-02T22:57:48+00:00

https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/pDAQoEMG1U

gorne14 · 2023-09-02T21:44:28+00:00

Nobody in real life cares about your body count after your early 20s

kalashhhhhhhh · 2023-09-02T21:40:48+00:00

High N count is not good in either men or women. I wouldn't seriously date a man with a super high count because of the very great risk he'd either leave me to chase girls or just cheat on me. I have no problem with my partner having past partners and sex before me.

Likewise, I wouldn't date a virgin man for similar reasons- he'd either get FOMO for never sleeping with another woman (I know I had it with my first partner), or just be weird/jealous about the fact that I had sex before.

2-9 partners before me is ideal

harmonica2 · 2023-09-02T21:28:47+00:00

The thing about 'hoe phases' why do men and women feel like they have to avoid relationships in their 20s and get that out if their system? The reason that car up before was no time in college but is that the only reason or is it more complicated than that?

Ok-Map-7596 · 2023-09-02T20:35:25+00:00

redpillers fully believe in the no just wold fallacy when it comes to high n count women

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-09-02T20:16:18+00:00

Eh, men will not back down on this preference, and I realize that by getting too high of an n count I could end up missing out on guys I'd actually like to date. I'm also not attracted to enough people to get a really high one. It's worked for me so far.

However if my new bf had retroactive jealousy over my sexual history I would probably leave because he is being unreasonable and I don't want to just be tolerated by a guy. One of my exes had retroactive jealousy and BPD so I'm not touching that shit again.

SpecificLogical971 · 2023-09-02T19:07:43+00:00

What do you define as an "average woman"? I came across a statement suggesting that Margot Robbie is considered "mid" or average, which has left me puzzled. Could you please provide images that represent your idea of an "average" woman? Thank you in advance! :)

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-09-02T18:19:32+00:00

Values often come up in these discussions.

People fail to acknowledge that values shift and change as we grow. Those values are complex, and many things can be true at the same time.

Specialist-Action-33 · 2023-09-02T18:16:26+00:00

For all my guys who had trouble getting laid and end up meeting a girl who has a high N-count and likes you, you have 3 options:

You can sit there and act like it doesn't bother you. Of course you cannot leave because how low your options are.
You can try to look for a cope like those in r/retroactivejealusy where people will just say "jUsT gO tO tHeRaPy".
You can do what I always say and sleep with other women to make yourself feel better.

Women who have high N-counts and are internally remorseful will try to seek men with low N-counts as a way to make their newly found values align with his, because at the time he wouldn't know. In that situation, just remember shes not yours, its just finally your turn.

I said what I said; cry about it.

Edit: I'll prolly get my pecker slapped for saying the magic word but someone has to say it lol.

waffleznstuff30 · 2023-09-02T17:59:55+00:00

I don't think body count has anything to do with someone's character. And judging someone by what their past is, just seems counterintuitive to having a decent relationship with someone. Unless we are talking really high numbers then that person probably isn't relationship focused and prefers more casual settings and that's fine too. But maybe not a person you should want to date because your values and expectations are different. You can only take the person at face value and who they are in the present.

I get it if you have more conservative/religious reasons for wanting someone because of a shared belief on sex and sexuality. But bashing, and calling women who don't share that ideal and calling them "whores" "ran through" "damaged goods" making the comments about labia's because they don't fit YOUR standard is just entitled and stupid and says more about the person saying those things than the person who doesn't fit your standards. And claiming their whole value as a person has to with their sexual past. You are completely entitled to have values around sex and if it's something important to you but not entitled to make everyone fit that standard.

I would be more critical about why their last relationship didn't work out. That's where you get the red flags and stuff. Did they become inattentive aloof and stop putting in effort after courting... Did they cheat? Did they make promises and not keep them? That says more about someone than them having a wild year in college and experimenting with sex.

RonMexico432 · 2023-09-02T17:20:47+00:00

I never kept count. It was always stupid to me. I never asked for anyone else's count. As long as their STD free, I don't care. Its stupid boys spend their teen years looking for a girl slooty enough to touch their peen, then in their 20s it's suddenly paramount that she has to be pure.

Ainsleygz · 2023-09-02T17:18:42+00:00

Can we starting adding what # n-count thread we are on

MxMaster9907 · 2023-09-02T17:03:38+00:00

I have a hard time believing anyone who counts their sexual partners past 20. Like wtf do you mean your count is 70? How tf do you keep count of that? Do you have notes? That’s very weird imo

I lost count after 10, i didn’t care and i still don’t. It’s dumb, thankfully no woman has ever asked me what’s my body count. I estimate somewhere around 30-ish -/+ 5.

ornamentalwallpaper · 2023-09-02T16:48:24+00:00

So many people try to pretend that they are more selective than they actually are - all these losers on twitter are dragging women like Nina Agdal through mud, but if Nina walked into their lives all the red pillers would abandon all their supposed principles and preferences and run to the courthouse without a prenup. Who are you even shitting?

ROBYoutube · 2023-09-02T16:42:23+00:00

Man I will never forget the first time a sentient human asked how many women I'd slept with. It must have been a bit over a year ago, on this sub, and I remember trying to remember when I last knew. It was about 2 decades ago. Who counts? Who cares? Has anyone managed to brainstorm a good excuse for caring that isn't 'I'm bad at sex and if they've had much before they'll know'?

Anyway godspeed caring about this.

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