I really think that most women are attracted to strength and fighting ability and turned off by a lack of either.

themostgianthorse · 2022-03-03T17:02:01+00:00

You answered your own question in the second to last sentence.

Like dear uncle JP says “A harmless man is not a good man. A good man is a very dangerous man who has himself under control.”

Euphoric_Ad_4972 · 2022-03-03T17:03:02+00:00

Women are not primarily attracted to violence. Women are attracted to men who have power and seeing them exercise this power just makes them wet. In your case power is expressed through violence at other times it could through money, intelligence etc.

SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-03-03T17:50:59+00:00

There is some validity to this: if a woman is attracted to UFC fighters type dudes, she is going to go for the top in that field. I don't think violence translates to attraction 1:1 though

ThePigmanAgain · 2022-03-03T21:17:49+00:00

>At this place worked as a security guard some guy was harassing all the ladies at my job when we had to wait outside because the fire alarm went off. I fucked him up and lots of women started being more flirtatious with me after that.

Congratulations on beating up a man on behalf of women who were, even according to your claims, merely harassed. You are a credit to male feminists everywhere.

accountantladyreads · 2022-03-03T17:11:28+00:00

Strength is attractive. Violence is not

Thucydides00 · 2022-03-03T17:18:12+00:00

for a certain type of women who like a certain type of guy this might be true, but most people never get into bar or street fights, or ever need to "fuck someone up" I've observed that trashy dudes get into regular fights, and that them winning fights is attractive pretty much only to trashy women.

livs4dietdrpepper · 2022-03-03T17:13:02+00:00

Hmm I’m not sure honestly. I think the examples of the woman fucking the other guy are a bit extreme.

It’s more about the confidence and power both mentally and physically it takes to stand up for something, even in the face of conflict.

I personally am very unattracted to men who view all conflict as inherently bad. I have had boyfriends say I’m “crazy” or a “bitch” for sticking up for myself, even when it’s casual and appropriate

A man who can read a situation and step up to the plate is sexy to me, I don’t really care if he “wins” or “loses” especially if he’s defending me. I’d even be attracted to a guy who could talk his way out of a fight just cause it shows such power and demeanor, that is true alpha behavior to me

The unsexy thing is being too passive to do anything, and I feel this way about women too

Stand for something ya know

richard_golbes · 2022-03-03T17:09:44+00:00

Women who are attracted to violent men who like to fight are going to care about which men are better at it. You shouldn’t generalize from that.

viperman1111 · 2022-03-03T19:13:28+00:00

Ninja skills, video game skills, Computer hacking skills,

NephilimXXXX · 2022-03-04T02:06:40+00:00

A while back, I listened to part of an episode of the FDS podcast. In the podcast, they talked about how turned on they get by men fighting, and how the movie "Fight Club" was very hot.

baresquad · 2022-03-03T17:11:12+00:00

This is weird. I don’t think woman care. Like at all

I haven’t fought anyone since around the 8th grade but if I got beat up now, I’d be willing to bet I’d get way more sympathy from women than disgust

Maybe it’s a lifestyle and type thing and fighting is apart of those folks everyday norms, idk.

Yupperdoodledoo · 2022-03-03T17:49:00+00:00

These are just anecdotes. I could share just as many about women being turned off by men who get into fights. I know I am, I find guys who get into physical fights super lame and unable to control their emotions.

monopsychos · 2022-03-03T17:50:33+00:00

Civilization is about moving away from caveman. These kind of women you're talking about are still way too close to ooga booga to be taken seriously. This stuff was a thing in high school, and for a lot of us it was old even back then.

That said, being a boss is what you're after. For most women, just being confident in yourself, having self respect, and competence in your field accomplishes the same thing without the black eyes and assault & battery charges. $ is sometimes the scoreboard for these traits.

Interesting enough, as much as I extol these values personally, women are not a monolith, and my girl would love me just then same. No matter how beta I was or wasnt, we connected on other values.

ruboyuri · 2022-03-03T19:41:49+00:00

Fighting pisses me off; there’s no excuse for it in modern society.

Sue each other in court like real adults — now that’s hot

bitesizeconsistency · 2022-03-03T21:39:20+00:00

Former UFC champ Forest Griffin wrote in his book that a teammate of his lost a fight and then they found his gf fucking the guy who beat him.

Without disrespect to professional fighters, but what do they expect? You enter a profession which is sinful (gambling, loan sharking, fighting for entertainment, drug dealing, prostitution, pimping etc), do you really expect the women in that field to be better than the men?

Edit: Mike Tyson was right to some extent. He said there is no respect in this world, only fear. He is right, only when it comes to thugs and people in these low level, animalistic professions.

Tovo34 · 2022-03-04T05:04:21+00:00

Woman are attracted to power of all kinds. Strength, money, art, smarts, humor etc.. The more power you can bring in different ways the better. Muscles and strength just happen to be one of the most visible types.

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-03-03T17:13:43+00:00

Don't get me wrong, nobody likes a loser. But strength/fighting skill isn't the only way to be the winner. A man that can pay for an army will beat the biggest brute. A man smart enough to invent advanced weapons will beat strength. A man who can talk his way out of a fight and turn his would-be assailant into a new friend is now better prepared for the next fight. Ect ect...

Pair all of these forms of winning with the fact that women tend to be risk averse. And it's likely you'll find bigger success with different forms of winning.

qclady · 2022-03-03T17:12:17+00:00

I’m not attracted to people that cannot control their anger.

flapperfemmefatale · 2022-03-03T17:13:14+00:00

Nah, I'd probably leave a guy who got into what I saw as an unnecessary fight. I can handle myself just fine when it comes to rude men. I don't expect other people to fight for me.

gimpgirl555 · 2022-03-03T17:05:57+00:00

What do you think?

It's dumb. Who wants to fuck a dumb guy? Duh.

It has nothing to do with his sexual prowess.

woke----- · 2022-03-03T17:15:42+00:00

Things are more nuanced now. You need a guy who can win in a civilized way (socially, economically). Takes more savvy than just beating people up.

jenh420 · 2022-03-03T23:44:14+00:00

Jesus this is a ridiculous thought. Those women you heard stories about or witnessed do not represent the majority of women. We are not cave people.

krischens · 2022-03-03T17:29:30+00:00

Weakness turns everybody off, no one wants to see that. The ability to fight or strength also shows confidence which is definitely sexy. But I don't think violence is something people look for in their partners in general. There is a good chance that violence will spill over and the partner will be the target. Then again there are a lot of domestic abuse victims, who still stay with their abusers.

"I’ve seen in street/bar fights women talk down to their guy because he lost and even once saw a woman leave with the guy who beat her man up."

Lol, bullet dodged mate, says a lot about the girl...

ririsbaby · 2022-03-03T20:02:04+00:00

Your assumption is correct. It’s instinctual

IcarusKiki · 2022-03-04T00:38:51+00:00

power turns women on - it doesnt have to be physical

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DreamsOfWishes · 2022-03-03T17:23:00+00:00

a teammate of his lost a fight and then they found his gf fucking the guy who beat him

The girlfriend who was already dating a fighter?

I’ve seen in street/bar fights women talk down to their guy because he lost

The girls who are dating guys that fight?

where this really bad girl was being chased after hard by two guys and that she made them fight each other

A girl that makes guys fight to choose who she dates?

I fucked him up and lots of women started being more flirtatious with me after that.

Lots...not all, why not all?

Some women are into fighters and obviously women who are into fighters, want the strongest guy. All your examples prove that, just that. They don't say anything about women as a group.

That's how it works with any preference btw...if someone is into hot women, they really would like to date a model. If someone is into intelligent guys, they highly prefer a guy with the highest possible degree they can get. If someone is into rich guys, then an even richer guy is always better. Etc etc etc.

You looked at a group of women that already showed a preference for strength, saw that they would dump their guy for someone stronger and then made a statement about all women.

Smitten_Squire · 2022-03-03T17:26:18+00:00

Obviously.

Myrand0musername · 2022-03-03T17:58:16+00:00

I agree generally but my personal experience admittedly still is an exception. Not too long ago i mentioned to a girl I was talking to that I do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and did both wrestling and Judo in the past (grappling is just so much more fun than striking IMO and I love hearing people shit talk about how boring it is cause most of them think wrestling is just 2 guys rolling around basically having sex and have no idea as to the complexity of it all, but I digress). She went off about how that likely means I got anger issues from childhood and I probably will hurt somebody on purpose at some point. Which is hilarious because I explicitly know now how easy it would be to accidentally kill somebody by bouncing their head off the pavement from just 1 clean hit so I am a whole lot more likely to de escalate or run rather than fight. Probably depends on the individual but a group of individuals will still give way to stats that will lean one way or the other and create trends.

Emergency-Regret6974 · 2022-03-03T18:05:46+00:00

So you did a good thing (stop a harasser), women appreciated that, and that means women like violence?

Not a good argument. A better one is about serial killer fangirls.

Some women cheat, and it often has nothing on the guy except that a woman is a bad person.

You want to blame biology instead of individual morality.

Society loves violence btw. Men included.

modidlee · 2022-03-03T18:19:34+00:00

I’d say the term “girlfriend” should be used loosely with any woman that does something like that

freespirit1963TJ · 2022-03-03T18:40:08+00:00

You must be speaking of personal knowledge. Reason I say this is many factions of what are known as testosterone fueled activities, fighting, racing anything to do with motorcycles, a man that comes off as confident or aggressive in any manner is view by many women as toxic in nature. I completely agree that there is a group that are turned on by it, but I believe you are mistaken when you say, "most".

greedyleopard42 · 2022-03-03T19:01:29+00:00

being strong is a plus i guess- not being strong doesn’t take away anything though like definitely not turned off by it. not that big of a thing for me

Aiizimor · 2022-03-03T19:49:31+00:00

I think they're self worth determines that

a14deadpool · 2022-03-03T21:40:47+00:00

This is a fake story to push some weird agenda.

I’ve literally had sex with girls that have boyfriends who are in the military or practice martial arts. I knew this one girl who I hooked up with at a party, her boyfriend find out and he kicked my ass. A few ago later she ended up texting me, she broke up with her boyfriend and wanted to hang out with me. I said no cause I’m sick plus she isn’t that good looking.

The point is you don’t need to learn how to fight to get laid that’s stupid as fuck. I literally spend time outside with tons of dudes and girls, women don’t get angry or sad if their boyfriend loses a fight it literally has no turn on impact on them. I only met one girl that was attracted to a dude who can fight but I think her boyfriend physically abused her so that’s that.

The-Antihero- · 2022-03-03T22:11:56+00:00

I tend to agree. But let's not forget: the strong can't stay strong forever. If you fight enough, and you're not cherry picking opponents, you will eventually lose. And you'll inevitably age out of being a badass, provided you live long enough.

toasterchild · 2022-03-03T22:31:59+00:00

I'm not sure it has to be physical. I'm super attracted to people who stand up for what they believe in. Assertiveness is hot.

DeJuanBallard · 2022-03-03T22:54:52+00:00

Facts

JohnOnAWall1 · 2022-03-04T01:44:37+00:00

Being strong is one thing, as well as holding your own. UFC fighters wouldn't be a good representation of what the general population is as a lot are thugs. Most girls don't really care that much. I bet warrior prowess is more praised in some countries than others though. At one point in England, the Calf muscle was considered the most attractive. So I just think it comes down to personal preferences tbh

Superfluous_Toast · 2022-03-04T02:27:34+00:00

I'm sexually attracted to a guy who has never been in a fight and probably never will be. If he ever is, it will be because someone tried to start shit with him.

I can guarantee that even if he were to lose that hypothetical fight, it would be his side I'd be standing by. No one endears themselves to me by going after my loved ones, and they certainly wouldn't turn me on by doing so.

LUCKYMAZE · 2022-03-04T02:47:07+00:00

nah they only care about facial features

mil2357io · 2022-03-04T06:44:21+00:00

It really depends on the situation. I only date women who are dysfunctional and seem to want to cure me of my gayness. Like this one woman was all skinny and shrunken, like a gnarled tree branch. When we had sex, her ribs would squeak. She had a wart like a dried prune on her left arm pit.

mil2357io · 2022-03-04T06:44:27+00:00

It really depends on the situation. I only date women who are dysfunctional and seem to want to cure me of my gayness. Like this one woman was all skinny and shrunken, like a gnarled tree branch. When we had sex, her ribs would squeak. She had a wart like a dried prune on her left arm pit.

mil2357io · 2022-03-04T06:44:34+00:00

It really depends on the situation. I only date women who are dysfunctional and seem to want to cure me of my gayness. Like this one woman was all skinny and shrunken, like a gnarled tree branch. When we had sex, her ribs would squeak. She had a wart like a dried prune on her left arm pit.

mil2357io · 2022-03-04T06:44:39+00:00

It really depends on the situation. I only date women who are dysfunctional and seem to want to cure me of my gayness. Like this one woman was all skinny and shrunken, like a gnarled tree branch. When we had sex, her ribs would squeak. She had a wart like a dried prune on her left arm pit.

ffandyy · 2022-03-04T06:57:55+00:00

This is hilarious lol, never once have I had a woman ask wether I can fight or not 😂

clockworkshining · 2022-03-04T08:49:35+00:00

They see fighting ability as a form of power and that’s what is attractive to them

If she’s with the toughest guy in town more than likely people won’t mess with her, in effect she shares his power

Another thing to take into account is people often find traits or characteristics that they do not possess to be attractive in others for example he finds her sophisticated side attractive because he’s abit rough around the edges she finds his confidence attractive because she’s a bit shy

SolidTunnelSnake · 2022-03-04T13:31:11+00:00

If the stronger guy is like a 4 in looks, and the guy who loses the fight is at least an 8, I think that’s where the exception lies for most women. Strength is desirable, but not as much as an attractive appearance. Whereas if the guys are more equal in looks, then other things like strength, socioeconomic status, etc. become more apparent.

painfurouartacc · 2022-03-04T21:41:37+00:00

could have something to do with the woman in the question wanting to be with an UFC fighter, this is a bit of an extreme example

Z0mbs · 2022-03-05T08:03:58+00:00

It's not strictly about fighting. It's about showing power over others. I could be a millionaire who can't fight for shit. But I can pay my bodyguard to break your whole face and it would be the same. Or I could put you in prison if I was a politician.

mystery1nc · 2022-03-05T16:13:02+00:00

Isn’t it more likely that you would hear more stories of ridiculously awful women cheating on their man for a “stronger” one than not? Who is going around telling stories about women that didn’t leave their man for losing a fight? Literally no one, so you’re going to hear about the opposite.

Also it seems your last anecdote about beating up a dude that was harassing women makes sense in that those women were attracted to the fact that you acknowledged his harassment and publicly punished him for it, not the beating in itself.

masochisticanalwhore · 2022-03-06T06:24:05+00:00

This is confirmation bias. All your friends/your job are interested in fighting. So it makes sense that most women you know about are into guys into this kinda stuff. The women who want guys who make mincemeat out of a Rachmaninoff concerto are probably not targeting you.

LotBuilder · 2022-03-03T17:35:29+00:00

Women want to feel protected and safe. That means you have the ability to do so but you are also not some drunk asshole or hot head fighting regularity.

I aM 6’5, 250, ride a Harley, tatted sleeves and my resting face is attractive but looks pretty serious. I have wrestled in HS, Krav Maga and BJj. I intimidate most people who don’t know me. Once they get to know me they usually laugh about being scared of me at first. I’m a teddy bear. It also makes me a magnet for women leaving an abusive relationship. They want to be with someone who their ex will not want to tangle with. It’s not a good thing and it makes regular dating unattractive to me.

Booexgirlfriend · 2022-03-03T18:24:12+00:00

Women attracted to violent men... are you sure it has nothing to do with the environment in which these women grew up?

I don't like violent men, I don't like being violent.

Self-defense is one thing.

Self-confidence is very important and is attractive. Being a violent person, is not.

A man who always looks at the ground, does not talk to anyone and is very quiet will hardly meet women. Let's not talk about taking the relationship to another level when the situation requires it.

It is true that I like strong men, especially mentally, but I am very attracted to men who know when to ask for help.

as a security guard some guy was harassing all the ladies at my job I fucked him up and lots of women started being more flirtatious with me after that.

I'd also flirt with you after that, security guard. You didn't have to.

A man "telling" another man that harassing women at job is wrong when other men would have look at the other way?

"It's not my job" they would say and they're right.

more flirtatious with me

Attraction wasn't an issue.

chingness · 2022-03-03T18:04:03+00:00

The sort of women who like that sort of thing are yes likely to go for the stronger guy sure Also the sort of women who go for (and are attractive to) famous fighters are going to chase the winners. That makes sense.

However, many women are not attracted to men like this. I’ve never found boxing/fighting men attractive and I hate loutish behaviour.

I’ve never known a partner of mine be involved in a fight and I’d never want them to put themselves in a situation where they have to be. It’s unnecessary.

That said I of course have respect for any one of any gender who jumps in to help others who are being attacked.

EugeneCezanne · 2022-03-03T18:56:48+00:00

It's just a type: Women who are into fighting are attracted to men who can fight. That's what you're actually describing.

If you polled women at a math competition and read a memoir by a mathematician, youd find women are attracted to guys who are good at math.

Women who arent into fighting (and there are many) dont watch UFC, date fighters, make their suitors fight, or stick around during bar fights to see who wins. For that matter, they tend not to hang out with people who do, which is why you personally dont see them.

sarkington · 2022-03-03T18:57:45+00:00

I see a man with anger issues and an eagerness to unleash them, and I know he’s beatin’ on his cuties

And I am not a masochist

TermAggravating8043 · 2022-03-03T19:00:01+00:00

Can I ask? Have you actually asked any real women this or are you going by what your messed up head thinks?

Put this question on r/askwomen and you’ll be surprised by the results

nomad-man · 2022-03-03T19:52:33+00:00

We all follow the strongest, men and women. No one wants to get behind the lower or a weaker leader. Just look at the world's hard on for the Ukraine president atm just for staying in the country.

BecretAlbatross · 2022-03-03T20:22:04+00:00

A lot of these arguments are class issues.

Women from more dangerous environments will value both capacity for violence and expression of violence way more.

Women from white collar environments are going to value things like charisma, assertiveness that are nonphysical kinds of confrontational skills.

I think all women are turned on by violence if it's justified and it's to protect them though.

tempaccc2022 · 2022-03-03T20:51:58+00:00

not even close to most, especially gen z. a pretty boy can get knocked out by cold by some masculine chad and still get more pussy at the end of the day.

ThePigmanAgain · 2022-03-03T21:21:24+00:00

>I really think that most women are...

>I really think for a lot of women

A lot and most are not the same thing. Make up your mind. Is it most or a lot? One hundred million women is a lot, but it's not most women.

ACE_inthehole01 · 2022-03-03T23:24:58+00:00

Groundbreaking analysis

Michel__Ney · 2022-03-03T23:45:49+00:00

Women despise violence personally because they're physically weaker than men and do not possess the same hormonal makeup that allows for men to succeed in violent confrontations.

At the same time, they're biologically hardwired to be drawn to men they perceive as being capable of violence to protect them.

There is a formula here, women aren't attracted to raw unfettered aggression coming from some random lunatic in public, but they're absolutely attracted to a man who has the capacity to inflict brutal violence while possessing the common sense and restraint to know when the deployment of violence is appropriate.

You should be quiet, composed, observant, and ready to kill or die for your woman at the drop of a hat if the need arises.

relish5k · 2022-03-04T00:46:09+00:00

I would be horrified if my husband got in a physical altercation, unless it was 100% unprovoked.

That said I consistently have fantasies of him being an officer in 1942 Italy, leading a squad and coming to his tent every night to write me leaders and fawn over his one picture of me in a nice 1940a updo.

So that part I will attribute to my lizard brain

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