Abortion starting to be banned in many states. No exceptions.

HolaHulaHola · 2022-04-14T20:30:48+00:00

Womens rights are my hill to die upon.

Absolutely nobody has any right to tell a woman whether or not to keep a pregnancy. She's the one pregnant. She is the one who will suffer all the negative effects to her body. It is her who will do the bulk of the childcare for many years to come. He can ask her to keep the fetus, but in the end all choices rest squarely with her. It's her body and her choice.

A man's only contribution is to hump, bump and squirt.

A dying person cannot even demand that somebody donate a compatible kidney or a piece of liver. They have no right because you cannot force somebody to donate a part of their body against their will. Yet, you can force a woman to donate the use of her body and her nutrients against her will.

appendixgallop · 2022-04-14T23:53:02+00:00

*Safe abortion is being banned. At no time in history has abortion been stopped.

Junior-Lion7893 · 2022-04-14T23:29:12+00:00

All these comments make me want to not have sex with men until I go into menopause.

These comments are scary and real. I knew someone that died giving birth to her son because her family shamed her for wanting an abortion. She died and I will never get get to see her again.

gingerwabisabi · 2022-04-14T19:22:54+00:00

I suggest every woman in one of these states look into the methods radical feminists in the 60s and 70s developed and shared with each other, become familiar with the mailing services for abortion pills, always keep a stock of cheap pregnancy tests on hand so you can know in time, AND only voluntarily have sex with a man who has A. already married you and B. moved you to a state with legal abortion. It's time to get EXTREMELY SERIOUS about our reproductive rights.

Illseemyselfout- · 2022-04-15T00:46:26+00:00

Nobody should be deciding what anybody else does with their own bodies. Period. The fact that so many, especially men, feel entitled to make personal decisions like this for others is ludicrous. Decreasing safe access only increases unsafe attempts. Banning abortions kills women.

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I’ve organized and lead many women’s gatherings and I’ve heard multiple women share that they were raped and became pregnant. They chose to go through with the pregnancy and became single moms. When babies are new, they’re perfect and lovely in every way. But more than one mom wept that as her kid grew up, she saw more and more that they resembled / reminded them of their biological father and that it had become a trigger and major challenge in parenting. These women loved their kids unconditionally and also struggled to separate them from their own trauma. This is a burden no child or mother should ever have to bear.

I’ve also met women who were pressured as teenagers into termination and spent the next several decades grieving that loss. Admittedly, much of that grief was upheld by a virulently religious ideology that burdened these women with lifelong shame. Lifelong grieving was a way to express penance and repentance. I highly doubt any man has lived with such shame and grief for forty years.

4E4ME · 2022-04-14T19:01:22+00:00

And Scrotes get to walk away from child support. Sick.

StrawberryMoon3 · 2022-04-14T20:35:14+00:00

The Foster care system and orphanages will have to brace themselves for an increase in children. And this will be the fault of men as all they care about is controlling women. All men do is cause problems, they are truly unfit to rule.

warinmymind94 · 2022-04-14T18:54:01+00:00

The amount of men that have opinions about abortion baffle Mr and Infuriate me.

Without safe and legal access to abortions, women will be forced to have a baby they can't afford, or provide for, or suffer physical complications (some women can't healthily Carry a baby) and have more psychological trauma. Some women will turn to shady "doctors" or scary DIY /at home abortion methods which can result in serious health complications and death.

The thing is you can support abortion without ever getting one yourself. You can support it and be a mom. Because it's about supporting the right of all women to have SAFE ACCESS to it if they decide they want it done.

The other thing is the friends that had abortions never really "wanted an abortion" they were raped or abused which resulted in the unwanted pregnancy. Another wanted to be a mom and was trying, but learned the baby had severe health complications and was most likely to pass away by the age of two years old - she wasn't financially or mentally prepared to try to care for that child or handle that loss - so she terminated the pregnancy. She didn't want to see the little one suffer like that either. My friends though never "wanted" abortions - it was a choice they made. I want everyone to have the freedom to make that choice and have abortion as an option if she needs it. The reason really doesn't matter I was just sharing some stories.

sequinpig · 2022-04-14T20:51:04+00:00

It’s the handmaid’s tale. Stock up on Plan B, it lasts 4 years. Even if you won’t need it, for your nieces, friends, etc. will. If you live in a state where abortion is available, offer to host women who may need to visit. Might as well build these networks now if you haven’t already.

Jay-Qualin · 2022-04-14T19:11:11+00:00

This shit is outrageous!! In this case the one thing women can do as a collective is abstinence from having sex with men...men need to be reminded of their fucking place..only then they would learn

lvioletsnow · 2022-04-14T21:08:31+00:00

Some years ago, a doctor realized I had a peculiar genetic quirk where I have a 25% or so chance to carry a child that, while perfectly healthy in utero, will immediately suffocate to death on birth. It's so serious, my insurance paid for me to see a genetic counselor and then a therapist to make sure I completely understood.

The test can only be conducted safely and reliably after 11 weeks.

So. Yeah. They're not really accomplishing what they claim they want to accomplish, though they don't really care abut that and just want an* excuse to hurt women.

Bratsociety · 2022-04-14T19:18:02+00:00

Fuck that and fuck the states

oscine23 · 2022-04-14T21:13:43+00:00

Pretty fkn insulting that men get to decide this when it’s them, not us, who have the capability to impregnate a woman 365 days out of the year, them who will remove a condom mid-sex, and them who refuse to be inconvenienced by a vasectomy. Also them who, when polled, said they wouldn’t take male birth control pills. I hate it here!

Jay-Qualin · 2022-04-14T19:06:21+00:00

This is fucked up!!! And this is suppose to be a first world country!! Fuck these fetus obsessed scrotes

candyfox84 · 2022-04-14T22:13:08+00:00

"I personally could not go through an abortion myself"

No one can say this for sure. There are many abortions that take place out of necessity where either the fetus will not survive, or the woman's uterus cannot sustain the gestation. Nature doesn't work perfectly (see ectopic pregnancy). For a fetus to be carried to term, the implantation and the uterus have to be functioning properly, and it's a very very imperfect process as anyone who's ever had infertility can attest to. I personally cannot carry a fetus to term due to severe adenomyosis and uterine myomas. If I got pregnant, it would be dangerous for me.

Women with medically required abortions sometimes have to travel to foreign countries for what amounts to invasive surgery, then the risks or limitations imposed by travel, which is absolutely ridiculous.

There is physical medical process at play here, not just an emotional one. I think it's important to acknowledge that abortion isn't just an emotional decision.

lessadessa · 2022-04-14T22:23:15+00:00

Society really does hate women. This just reinforces my stance that women should make a man go to the end of the world before she lets him put his dick inside of her.

lvrcalii · 2022-04-14T20:25:21+00:00

r /auntienetwork if you want to be able to help or may ever need help.

seraphinelysion · 2022-04-14T23:16:04+00:00

If any of you ladies are sure about not wanting to have kids ever, please look into your insurance to see if it will cover sterilization. In some cases, it will be 100% covered. Don't let anyone - man or government - have control over your rights. Protect yourself and stay safe out there.

daisy_0720 · 2022-04-15T09:37:10+00:00

Freeze your eggs and get sterilized if you're in a relationship and plan on having kids. Otherwise, just go straight for the sterilization, stock up on BC (just in case) and don't have sex with a man until he has moved heaven and earth to be with you. If they want to make sex riskier for women, we will simply have to increase the price of access to us until 99.9999% of men won't have a chance to even touch a woman.

Unfortunately, this country is full of Serena Joys and Aunt Lydias who will collectively betray us to shill for the patriarchy. I can't imagine we can do much on a societal level, but at least you can take care of yourself.

ConstantNurse · 2022-04-14T19:17:53+00:00

Yes and no to our rights are being taken away.

The thing is there are multiple medical circumstances in which abortion is needed. Pregnancy isn’t all sunshine and daisies. It causes and contributes to a load of health problems in addition to permanently altering your body. However, women are only seen as birthing casks for the LVM legacy in which politics is rife with.

For the record, doctors are not onboard with this mentality. There are many ways to get an abortion with out calling it an abortion. RU 486 is a combination of two medications that induce abortion. Both medications have other uses and can be prescribed for those reasons.

That being said, it’s time to get out there and vote against policies that put us in danger. It’s time to get these crusty, NVM out of office.

Peak_Tree · 2022-04-14T22:20:02+00:00

I remember when I first got into reddit as a teenager that discovered a feminist subreddit( the real kind, no libfem BS and therefore since long banned from here) by mistakeand I thought women over there were paranoid when they said they were getting fixed and getting IUDs when Trump won because abortion would be outlawed... They were right as always. My apologies to them.

As a non american It's even more unbelievable to read this as my country that is basically thirld world has decriminalized abortion until 20+ weeks recently tbh, it feels like we swapped places.

stripesonthecouch · 2022-04-14T21:00:51+00:00

Rights ARE being taken away. And it’s not just men, it’s anti-choice women. We need to hold them accountable too.

chainsawbobcat · 2022-04-14T21:38:46+00:00

we need to fight for Mandatory child support orders

orange_and_gray_rats · 2022-04-14T21:53:48+00:00

In Texas, a rapist is fined $10,000 but the bail for having an abortion is $500,000. Plus, you can get a $10K reward/bounty if you know or heard of anyone assisting an abortion.

In Oklahoma, a rapist gets 5 years but doctors who assists in an abortion gets 10 years and a $100,000 fine.

It was always about religious, misogynistic hateful control.

I’m starting to think the reason why republicans oppose abortion but want to defund any childcare programs is that they want a steady supply of low-skilled, desperate, hopeless workers who will be forced to subsist on crumbs in order to stay alive.

lvioletsnow · 2022-04-14T20:58:35+00:00

As long as this is the case the safest thing to do is take up self-defense, leave men alone entirely, and pull a Lysistrata. And even then, as someone else mentioned, rape and incest aren't exceptions to these laws.

Because, you know, Texas will just get rid of all the rapists. Surely other states will too.

Littlenirnroot · 2022-04-14T19:32:04+00:00

I’m in a right wing state and have had an abortion. This was at one of 2 clinics in our state so there were a group of us being processed and we had several hours to talk… I was the only stereotypical promiscuous young lady (and I was in law school which is why I chose not to have a baby). Everyone else there was either already a mom and choosing not to throw her family into poverty by having an unexpected child or was an abuse survivor. Half these women were middle age professionals. This narrative of slutty sluts killing babies as birth control is just a male rage fantasy.

23eggz · 2022-04-14T22:23:45+00:00

+1 to the list of reasons why I never want to live in the US

epoxide-reductase · 2022-04-14T18:51:34+00:00

This is so sad

InappropriateMommie · 2022-04-15T13:37:28+00:00

My best friend and her husband wanted to remain child free for life. They tried in vain to get either a vasectomy or tubal ligation but no doc would do it because they didn’t have kids. And then she got pregnant and had to have an abortion.

I have two kids and I’ve been pregnant 3 times - one miscarriage at 15 weeks. What NO ONE talks about is the fact that your body was just pregnant - aka, flooded with hormones, making way for a new life - and it completely fucks with you. Recovery from an abortion/miscarriage can take months. Moods, sweats, pain, depression, anger, breast tenderness, fucked up periods, etc.

No one cares about us, ladies. Literally no one. They think women are out there just bangin’ dudes and killin’ babies. We have to ultimately fight for the right to choose to sterilize ourselves prior to having children. I will go as far as to say something controversial but trans men are allowed to chemically sterilize themselves! But cis women aren’t? If they want to take away abortion rights we have to at the very least refuse to take no for an answer if we want to remain child free. At least that’s one thing.

Clearly, I’m terrified for my daughters 🥺

cinderella_rising · 2022-04-15T03:06:01+00:00

Florida?! I didn’t know this. Rethinking one of my favorite yearly travel destinations…

kandiirene · 2022-04-14T21:58:50+00:00

Flee! Ladies honestly. Come to Canada, our healthcare isn’t the greatest anymore but it’s way better then having to pay out of pocket for insurance or being tied to a job for health insurance.

Certain-Year-5367 · 2022-04-14T19:30:09+00:00

This is terrible, then there’s the fact that Syphilis in newborn has risen to 235% in the last 4 years, imagine becoming pregnant and finding out that your child might get that, the usual best option is abortion but that is no longer allowed.

These same men that are pro life are doing nothing to protect women in abusive relationship, the percentage of women getting killed by their SO increases daily, one gospel musician in my country died on Friday due to injuries gotten from her abusive husband, they do nothing about this but they are so pro life, all they want is power over women.

SummerEmCat · 2022-04-14T19:47:07+00:00

Californian here. This is why I will never visit those states or spend a dime over there. This is barbaric bullshit and you say you could personally never get an abortion but wait and see if you’re ever in these women’s shoes.

birdonthestreet · 2022-04-14T22:53:21+00:00

This may be a radical thought- but I think women in these states (who aren’t planning on having children or don’t want to have them period) should STOP HAVING SEX WITH MEN. Until we have complete control over our reproductive rights, they shouldn’t be allowed to enter our bodies. Period.

anobletruth · 2022-04-14T23:11:05+00:00

I don’t want children so events as of late has put getting a tubal litigation high on my list. Fuck that noise.

Creative-Dirt1170 · 2022-04-15T05:30:13+00:00

I knew this day would come fifteen years ago when pharmacists started to denying fulfilling birth control scripts due to "religious standing".

I warned people and everyone laughed me off.

I dreaded it, yet felt it in my bones and now, fifteen years later, the gloves came off.

2022-04-14T19:17:20+00:00

Women really should reconsider if they want to allow a man to have a legacy given these rules. I would say we should start defaulting to IUD or birth control and be making the choice to actively come off of it to conceive. Moreover, if at all possible move out of these states into places where abortions can be done because the need for abortion extends beyond “I don’t want a kid” to “I wanted this kid but they have such profound congenital abnormalities that I need to abort them for their sake and mine.”

chelseataylorxx · 2022-04-14T19:30:59+00:00

It’s time we stand as women. Maybe some of you will remember what it took our ancestors to earn the right to VOTE. We stopped giving men what they wanted, SEX. Abstinence may be what it will take again.

frame_data_serial · 2022-04-14T20:56:34+00:00

The exceptions for rape and incest are such a red herring. Women often don't speak about a rape for years - but they are supposed to report and prove it within 4 months??

2022-04-14T23:10:38+00:00

A note: If you stock up on any sort of plan B contraceptive, keep in mind that if you weigh over 175 pounds, the normal dose is much less likely to work.

This is NOT medical advice but IN MY OWN CASE, as I weigh over 200 pounds, if something happens I will be taking double the recommended dose. Will it make me sick? Maybe, but if it works, I'd rather be sick for a couple days than get pregnant at my age (48).

I'm not dating, at least, but rapists aren't terribly picky, y'know?

DireLiger · 2022-04-15T00:37:40+00:00

Start calling "them" the Christian Taliban. Every time.

That will get their attention.

ANewPride · 2022-04-14T20:39:01+00:00

If abortion is illegalized where I'm at and I get pregnant I will no joke kill myself. My life would be over and with my current health the fetuses future life would be fucked. Plus the adoption and foster care system is absolutely horrendous. I'm not putting me or my baby through that.

glossedrock · 2022-04-14T21:23:54+00:00

I want to put in that not every woman feels guilty/feels bad for having an abortion, and we do boy need to. No woman WANTs to have one, but some women don’t see a fetus as alive (because they’re not). To me, they’re a clump of cells.

I have never had an abortion but if I needed to because eg. condom broke, I would not feel an ounce of guilt. I would just be annoyed because abortions will fuck up your menstrual cycle.

healthcare_foreva · 2022-04-15T00:41:58+00:00

They just hate women. I’ve had an abortion and it was not traumatic at all. Don’t fall for that line.

kerahpapasquat · 2022-04-15T04:48:19+00:00

I saw a study that said after Texas banned abortions they were bragging about how many “lives”they saved, then planned parenthood and other clinics released the rise in Texas patients going across state borders in almost the same numbers to get their abortion. Women will still do what they can to make their own personal choice, leaving only the poor or abused women who can’t travel to get safe abortions to either carry to term or try their own methods. It’s fucked up.

Each pregnancy I’ve gone through has made me MORE pro choice. Because I can’t imagine someone being forced to go through it 9 months and birth against their will. It is hard, it is potentially career ruining, it is expensive, and it is medically dangerous. The idea that anyone else can tell a human to do that, but you can’t force someone to give blood or bone marrow or even your organs upon death to save another’s life. I’m the same way, politically in the middle on most things except very very pro women’s choice and rights. I hope this country and it’s conservative states can get out of the dark ages.

discochicken87 · 2022-04-15T14:38:47+00:00

A law should be introduced in those states that if a pregnant person declares a pregnancy as an unwanted one than the one who caused it should be jailed for causing injury, grievous bodily harm, manslaughter if the birth results in either birthing person or baby's death, at the very least severe financial penalties.

CutIcy1900 · 2022-04-14T20:22:59+00:00

I have my appointment on Monday for my TL. Couldn’t come quick enough.

ElectronAura · 2022-04-14T20:39:23+00:00

Scrotes don’t care about the babies after they’re born, otherwise legislation in our country would be a lot different. They just care about controlling women

Foxrhapsody · 2022-04-14T20:44:59+00:00

It’s just ridiculous. Women are people, not incubators!

crazybunnymum · 2022-04-14T20:57:59+00:00

I'm very sorry to any woman threatened by this. Its very alarming as men don't care about the baby after it's born. They don't care about those kids in the system, starving single mothers, kids who grow up in poverty and grow up illiterate.

Let's not forget they especially don't care about women experiencing post partum depression who may resort to drugs and expose those children to drugs. It's a horrible cycle.

The same men will block pregnant women from receiving free healthcare for her baby They will belittle a mother needing assistance to get by They don't advocate for mothers and children in poverty

It's all about control, not the mother, and not the baby.

Negai6 · 2022-04-14T21:03:35+00:00

I read somewhere that unborn fetuses are the perfect group to advocate for, because they don't need to actually do anything for them.

This makes me sick.

Ok_Lobster_5287 · 2022-04-14T21:17:46+00:00

This is one of those things where I feel like the generations before us have handed us a much worse world than they grew up in. Having someone from West Virginia or Alabama tell me that society values a potential person more than someone with an actual life and dreams, who we as a society have invested in at the rate of $200k (to raise a child through high school), is just so infuriating.

If you're forcing all these women to have these babies, where are all those babies going to go? Who will pay for them? The foster care system in most states is already overwhelmed, and nothing makes a great parent like someone who didn't want and can't afford the kid in the first place. Coincidentally, there was a drop in the number of serial killers after Roe v. Wade (of course that might also be related to reduced lead in the environment but that's the same generation that's pushing these abortion challenge laws).

I'd say I'm surprised by the lack of humanity and empathy displayed by people in conservative states, but JFC I don't know why I keep expecting anything different.

Stellata_caeruleum · 2022-04-14T22:29:45+00:00

Women in the USA (and other fascist countries): Get yourself some permanent birth control right away. Hormonal IUD should protect you for many years. And nobody else can mess with it. They don't even have to know. STILL, I would recommend to avoid sex. But in the worst case scenario, at least it's unlikely you will become pregnant and be forced to have the baby against your health and will.

Lara-887767 · 2022-04-14T22:39:06+00:00

I just cannot comprehend this. It makes my blood boil.

The right to choose what happens to your body, should never be controlled by men.

I’m from UK and our political spectrum is so different. What we consider conservative “right wing” is closer to the USA liberal “left wing”. This sort of legislation would NEVER get off the ground, never mind being passed and ENFORCED.

I am so sad and angry for our American sisters who can literally have their whole lives decided for and dictated by men.

Men can rape us, enforce pregnancy and childbirth on us, imprison us and brand us as murderers for the equivalent of not allowing a pip to become an apple.

Is this really 2022??

pukubr · 2022-04-15T03:51:18+00:00

the thing is that a lot of women are still groomed to value relationships with men, and many men will whine about how important "sexual compatibility" (muh peepee) is. Many women are not woke enough to realize you can just bail if he is so low value he demands sex under these unfavorable conditions.

The other thing I want to comment on is clearly the consequences of having a baby are not strong enough (for men). We talk all the time about how "women are "responsible" for single motherhood because "the government makes it so easy for them" when in reality it's clearly making it too easy for men to get away Scott free.

I'm under the impression that there is a conspiracy theory that society just wants more babies no matter what the cost is to human suffering, to women, to the next generation, to the environment.

we should repeat it over and over that men are not entitled to sex under such awful laws. unless... male birth control becomes compulsory? 🤔 unless more dire consequences such as taking 99% instead of just 50% for child support? I don't know what the solution is, but I'm afraid most women are still groomed to have sex with men, most men are getting away Scott free, so unplanned pregnancies are still on the books.

Ok-Nefariousness9646 · 2022-04-15T09:48:31+00:00

I am so sorry to hear this.

To me, these people never sound 'pro-life' when they speak, they sound as though they view children as a punishment for having sex.
There are plenty of women who don't want children, but I'm pretty sure nobody wants an abortion. Nobody wants it to come to that.

2022-04-14T19:26:39+00:00

Your rights aren't being taken away, they are already taken away. Get out now while you can.

America hates women.

Reasonable-Slice-827 · 2022-04-14T19:57:47+00:00

The 4 months thing is bs. It takes way longer to prove incest/rape, and rape isn't taken seriously anyway 99% of the time. The new abortion laws have changed my mind about having sex. If I choose to date again, I won't be having sex until I'm married. It doesn't completely take away the risk of needing an abortion, but it helps.
The right wing anti-woman laws are another reason I'm a gun owner. I can see more women opting for sterilization to protect themselves from the right wing baby trapping phenomenon.

2022-04-15T09:07:59+00:00

We can't take organs from a corpse without consent, even if someone will die without the organ. What men don't realize - or are willfully and gleefully aware of - is that this gives pregnant women less bodily autonomy than a dead body. I'm so sorry for american women right now. You're living through a horrible moment in history. Please keep fighting.

Even if the fetus counts as a person (which I don't personally believe) you can't force someone to be an incubator if they don't want to be. Look up the violin argument for abortion.

TheBlackParisian · 2022-04-15T11:41:53+00:00

That is just so awful… I remember during the elections last year in Canada, the conservatives tried to bring this topic to the table. Hell to the naw! It’s crazy that brainless men have to control women’s bodies. And no exception for rape and incest? This speaks VOLUME. Please please ladies, don’t have sex with anyone (ofc consensual sex) “control” your bodies because most of those men seeds aren’t worth being stuck with an unwanted baby or even go through an abortion as psychologically and physically, it’s damaging

presentable_corpse · 2022-04-14T21:29:39+00:00

"Oh sure, kill the rapist," he says.

"Oh sure," indeed. Good luck convincing a judge of that.

Peaches-McNuggs · 2022-04-14T22:10:52+00:00

I feel like rape/ incest exceptions are useless unless they’re just going to take your word for it. How are you supposed to prove it? I think it’s something like less than 25% of rapists are ever convicted. Even if they are, by the time that happens you’ve already given birth.

Delicious_Action3054 · 2022-04-14T22:52:01+00:00

Thank Dickbag McConnell for this vis a vis keeping Garland off the court.

Complex-Management-7 · 2022-04-15T00:39:25+00:00

The underground railroad is ready

Resident_Coyote5406 · 2022-04-15T11:11:10+00:00

How on earth can laws like this pass when we’re supposed to have separation of church and state. I hope the Supreme Court remembers this when it’s time to evaluate these laws, and then I hope women file a class action lawsuit against their states

HellGoddessHG · 2022-04-14T19:38:28+00:00

Did you say abortion was banned in the state of Florida? That’s a news flash for me… I just googled it there’s plenty of places in my city I could get one if need be. I can’t imagine going into the dark ages and not having a right to health care.

idiotfive · 2022-04-14T21:34:21+00:00

Easy solution only have sex with people you would want to raise a kid with.

NewYorkerWhiteMocha · 2022-04-14T22:47:10+00:00

That's just why I left OK. Oh absolutely not.

babysfirstreddit_yx · 2022-04-14T23:01:45+00:00

No the FL law is still BS even with the rape/incest cases. Does it say that you just have to say rape/incest, or are they looking for arrest/conviction first? because that doesn't happen at all, let alone in under 4 months. It's a trick to appear tame, nothing more.

panicatthebookstore · 2022-04-15T00:47:40+00:00

personally i think that 4 months is a good amount of time but of course it should be applicable to all cases of unwanted pregnancy. this is ultimately going to be very bad for a lot of women - not only will the numbers of women dying from unsafe/unprofessional abortions rise, but also the numbers of suicides in general (especially if the unsafe abortion doesn't work).

Nitsgnats · 2022-04-15T07:14:43+00:00

Here's an article that details what happens when a country bans abortion:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/05/16/what-actually-happens-when-a-country-bans-abortion-romania-alabama/

"Romania under Ceausescu created a dystopian horror of overcrowded, filthy orphanages, and thousands died from back-alley abortions."

crazyhow · 2022-04-14T22:55:49+00:00

I think this idea that abortion is an extremely difficult decision for every woman is untrue and plays into anti choice rhetoric.

Abortion is absolutely an easy and natural choice for so many women who don’t want children or aren’t ready for a child.

But I agree with every other point you made.

The_Cat_Empress · 2022-04-16T02:25:13+00:00

The left wants to eliminate women's spaces and the right wants to eliminate women's bodily autonomy. Why are these stuffy old men always the ones speaking for women?

TBH, you DO hear mothers say stuff like "Oh goodness I could never abort" yes Jan, that's great...but what about the many many MANY poorer women who can't afford a child...and more importantly, don't want one??

The foster/adoption system is already so clogged up that these pro-lifers never think about where the baby would go after! I stg these men think they have the moral high ground and don't have to deal with the labor pains and the horror of a positive pee stick.

shemague · 2022-04-14T19:42:52+00:00

Its fucking terrifying

SpentHis_MilfMoney · 2022-04-16T21:25:51+00:00

Women need to start physical fitness, running if can, anything else that can increase lung capacity & flexibility. Add on self-defense training. And last but never overlooked, firearms training. As *safety 1st" is taking on a new meaning.

Godschild2020 · 2022-04-19T22:57:19+00:00

Women have so much control. Vote these idiots out! It's not dem vs rep it's about voting for the party that upholds women's rights. But, TBH all politicians say anything to get in office and then cater to corporations.

And/or hit men where it hurts, decline sex with no condoms (as we should be) but take it a step further. "Honey you know that right now in our state women do not have access to abortion. I would hate to force either of us to deal with an unwanted pregnancy for the rest of our lives. " or "Sweetie, I want to be clear, if my birth control should fail, we will be parents. Abortion is not option in our state." Hearing this message over and over and over will make them think with their dicks differently. They too, should be forced to understand consequences.

All the same, *vetting* makes more since now than ever. Men lie. So much has to be accepted in order to acquiesce to a one night stand. I certainly wouldn't want to be pregnant by a one night stand that I later find out - if I find him again at all, works at the gas station, and receiving child support from his "at minimum wage job" which is insulting, considering inflation and purely how much it costs to raise a child.

showbobswithvegene · 2022-04-14T22:42:40+00:00

Murderers.

TriniGold · 2022-04-14T20:53:11+00:00

Interesting reading a complaint by someone who’s “moderate”.

ProfessionalLoose868 · 2022-06-15T11:13:02+00:00

I assure you there is nothing difficult about abortion. The society tries to impose guilt and shame on women but in reality there is no reason for it.

Impossible-Cook-378 · 2022-07-11T09:53:30+00:00

I'm fine with murder. but if your gonna make it legal, don't leave it with just the children. if you really want to be able to kill a living being, at least make all murder legal

Title	Abortion starting to be banned in many states. No exceptions.
Author	crapcakes0987
Upvotes	1385
Comments	223
Date	April 14, 2022 6:43 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
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