If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.

My_House_on_Mars · 2024-10-14T21:57:48+00:00

when I said how much I make

Is this normal behavior?

Where I live people don't say how much they earn, not even to friends

Purple_Cruncher_123 · 2024-10-14T21:58:51+00:00

Based on how you described it, I would say you're right - you are probably not in demographic that women her age/looks would go after, unless you were killing it at karaoke and drawing looks from talent, or a total silver fox. She was basically checking to see if you got any sugar. So of course the amount of sugar you have mattered. When she found out you only had Splenda, she pivoted.

I don't think then that your experience is sufficient evidence for the thesis. Hot broke men get with women all the time. There's a whole subclass of baby daddies who can't even hold a $30k/year job, let alone $100k+. A few women who happen to be chasing the sugar rush are definitely out there, but to me it's usually pretty transparent when that's what they're doing.

missmireya · 2024-10-14T21:59:03+00:00

You should have asked in return about her current financial situation. I'm betting it was bleak. There are certain women out there who will use men for financial gain until they are no longer of use to them.

It's the equivalent in the way that so-called "Chads" use obese or unfortunate looking women for fun until they find something better that comes along.

apresonly · 2024-10-14T22:08:20+00:00

So your argument is one conversation you had with one woman?

She might be a scammer.

yptheone · 2024-10-15T00:15:10+00:00

Bruh i know litteral bums that have 5+ babymamas, i mean i get what you're saying but then i don't.

Good_Result2787 · 2024-10-14T21:58:07+00:00

The intense focus on the job does seem a bit suspect to say the least.

Wise_Jellyfish_2333 · 2024-10-14T22:09:44+00:00

All you really need is your own place, women don’t like getting freaky when roommates are around

Sharp_Engineering379 · 2024-10-14T21:53:40+00:00

Women aren’t sexually attracted to money.

She was using you.

-BubbaZanetti- · 2024-10-15T11:38:02+00:00

It sounds like she was drunk and just started chatting to you as a random in a bar. This happens all the time in Australian pubs. You said yourself you go there for the vibe and to get drunk. For some reason you came out and stated how much you earn, which in the context of a casual chat between two drunk strangers in a bar, is out of place and odd.

What you’ve written isn’t different to thousands of drunken interactions in bars and pubs every week. No mystery that people’s faces may ‘change’ in reaction when you overshare during light bar banter. Think you’re projecting a ton of stuff into a meaningless, forgettable bar chat.

HTML_Novice · 2024-10-14T22:02:42+00:00

100k was a lot like 10 years ago, now that’s honestly not really much money at all

NoDanaOnlyZuuI · 2024-10-15T03:09:29+00:00

One (totally believable) situation is what you’re basing your entire post on?

neverendingplush93 · 2024-10-15T06:44:20+00:00

I got plenty of cheeks working at burger king.

10rook_ · 2024-10-15T07:34:53+00:00

OP thinks the woman wants him LOL. You're a walking ATM to her

Proper_Frosting_6693 · 2024-10-15T08:22:07+00:00

Looks are the main thing that matter for genuine attraction! That’s why the Chad’s job doesn’t matter!

It only matters for gold diggers, beta buxx etc

FYI - I’m surprised you disclosed what you earn!

flipsidetroll · 2024-10-15T08:34:42+00:00

Things I love most about red pillers….. they will all say they are logic based, and then use personal anecdotes as proof of theories. Which literally means they are not logic based, they are feelings based, and make assumptions based on other’s actions. Correlation does not equal causation.

But cute effort.

badgersonice · 2024-10-15T13:36:29+00:00

She was a small town girl, seemed very genuine and real.

Yes, the halo effect is, in fact, real. Men have a very hard time recognizing or acknowledging the personality traits they say they dislike as long as she has a pretty face and a great body.

Seriously, she’s obviously on the prowl for money, but you’re practically volunteering to be her lawyer defending her here, saying she’s so obviously such a nice sweet innocent girl. Lol.

Fair-Bus-4017 · 2024-10-14T22:18:35+00:00

She just wanted your money lmao. What did you expect from a girl that much younger than you?

Azn_Sex_Fiend · 2024-10-14T23:36:06+00:00

Women aren't sexually attracted to men with money, they just see you as a mark that is easy to manipulate so that she doesn't really have to work.

valerianandthecity · 2024-10-14T22:17:00+00:00

You're making a sweeping generalization from a single conversation with one woman.

I do agree that socio-economic status matters for finding a long term partner, but it depends what you want from a partner. If you want "burning desire" from your partner, then leading with money likely is not the way to go. Looks, Status and Game are.

I've heard way too many stories of guys being used for their money (I'm thinking of guys who go to developing countries and attract women through money, the amount of "I got screwed/cheated on" stories is so common amongst expats that it's a running joke.

a_minty_fart · 2024-10-14T23:13:33+00:00

Your entire post is invalidated by the staggering number of women who fuck hot losers

kvakerok_v2 · 2024-10-15T12:15:35+00:00

"Now I ain't saying she a gold digger, but she ain't messing with no broke"...

UglyDude1987 · 2024-10-15T13:43:20+00:00

Why are you casually telling people how much you earn? Maybe her face was in reaction due to you disclosing this.

MailenJokerbell · 2024-10-15T19:28:02+00:00

I take shit that didn't happen for 500

Hoopy223 · 2024-10-15T19:37:09+00:00

Some middle aged redditor gets bonked on the head and hallucinates a hot girl talking to him lol.

antariusz · 2024-10-15T21:15:28+00:00

If you are getting casual sex with a woman, literally hooking up on the first time meeting, within a few hours, then she doesn’t care how much you make at all, you could literally make zero dollars, that is “alpha fucks”

If she cares what you make, and makes you wait for sex, you might still get sex. But that is “beta bucks”

One is preferable to the other. I’ll let you figure that one out on your own.

Women are attracted to status, she thought you might be a lawyer, if you were a lawyer and made 90k a year you probably still could have fucked, or a lawyer who made 250k a year you also probably could have still fucked. Women want to fuck a man with a high status job the same as men are attracted to big boobs, they can’t help it.

fleshcrayon · 2024-10-16T00:33:04+00:00

This is what I tell the red pill guys. Looks matter, but only if you have nothing else going for you. And you will be thrown away eventually.

Cactus2711 · 2024-10-14T22:12:09+00:00

Ehh this story doesn’t hold much weight. Flirty, tipsy woman at bar attempts to find sugar daddy. This is a very specific demographic of woman. Most men would do well to avoid this type

catdog8020 · 2024-10-15T02:30:27+00:00

That’s why you never tell a woman how much you make, if she asks you lie. My Chad, the other chads put on the charm and let the woman talk and you listen and then flirt. Even though I know this I am Average so it’s almost impossible for me to meet and have sex with American woman. I got two friends who are not chads but millionaires and they can’t find girlfriends so they use escorts and do the passport bro thing. Trust me just play stupid (i know this seems counterintuitive) but it lets them flirt by touching you and then you kiss them and then say the one thing that only chad can do “want to come to my place” but better let them ask you over to their place - you are chad you got this chad lol

rustlerhuskyjeans · 2024-10-14T22:18:36+00:00

If you can take her back to a decent place sell her the dream, whatever she needs to hear. You have a great job, running a side hustle making thousands. Don’t elaborate too much.

I know 2 guys that are literally 10s, like perfect specimens. One makes up a story he’s got one year left in med school. The other is about to go big with some guys in cannabis. You could be the highest level Chad, you still need to sell her on something.

DreaminInChocolate · 2024-10-14T22:28:16+00:00

I mean I don't honestly expect a woman like that to be super interested in me. But the way it seemed like my dollar value mattered was insane.

This is no different than a guy wanting to pump and dump a woman and a woman thinking he wants a relationship with her.

MyLastBestChance · 2024-10-14T23:02:50+00:00

Congratulations. You met a girl fishing for a sugar daddy. You said that you’re older than the crowd there by a lot and a young hot woman approached you. What is surprising about the outcome? Your dollar value was the only thing that mattered.

That’s not a situation that’s applicable to women in general 🤣

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TheCrowninSan · 2024-10-14T22:20:30+00:00

Remember to lock your doors at might from now on🤣🤣

rando755 · 2024-10-14T22:27:54+00:00

I have never told someone my exact income level, and it is very rare for anyone to tell me their income level. If a woman knows what I look like, and doesn't know my income level, then what is there for her to judge?

Otaku_Owl · 2024-10-14T23:17:56+00:00

If that’s the case, then she’s not really into you. At some point, she’ll on you with the guys with the looks. If they’re broke, they won’t be able to keep her, but they’re phucking.

63daddy · 2024-10-14T23:23:46+00:00

It’s not so much wealth, but the display of wealth and what it provides women in my experience.

When I owned a cruising sailboat (and small lake sailboat), it definitely attracted women., despite the fact it actually meant I had less disposable income. When I owned a home with hot tub, that attracted women. When I tired of home care and moved to an apartment that clearly turned more women off despite the fact, it means I have more disposable income and a higher net worth.

Few women have ever asked what my net worth or income is. It’s the things money buys that attracts them.

DaveR_77 · 2024-10-15T01:36:56+00:00

No not really. It's more of a negative qualifier that eliminates people.

It doesn't mean that a women will go for a guy just because he earns 200K a year.

What it means is that a certain looks threshold and personality threshold has to be met. Then they might eliminate based upon income.

So your premise does not hold true.

But they might bend the rules for a guy they really really like (superchad) or try to help him to make $100K a year.

And this is only for marriage. If they aren't looking to get married, then it probably doesn't matter that much at all. Witness women going out with bartenders.

catdog8020 · 2024-10-15T02:42:39+00:00

Also, chad is always positive. If Chad is an accountant that hates his job he never ever ever ever tells Stacey he hates his job and his life. Chads golden rule - know what woman want and they want Chad. Talk less listen more

MissJeje · 2024-10-15T02:48:28+00:00

You mean a money-motivated women care more about how much a guy makes than his looks? Absolutely mind blowing findings op 🤯🤯🤯

r2k398 · 2024-10-15T03:35:22+00:00

My wife knew that I was making a crap wage when we met. Now we both make six figures and I never have to worry about her wanting me for my money.

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2024-10-15T09:02:47+00:00

Honestly just depends where you are.

100k in new york will not get you as far as you think a year no.

And most would not want to have children in poverty.

But there are plenty of places you can make do far under 100k a year. But often people also have massive student loans and stuff hounding them that they feel they need 100k or above salarys while what you make extra you also spending more just being near a place that would give you that salary.

It's often multiple things that make people look for a thing. And often it has to do with children prospects. And or big debts or loans. Or influencer statues seeking.

But if you dont have those isues most people can be quiet comfortable with even half of that amount.

But often people do have loans or debts. So they require more. To stay above water. Why you also see much less men going for colleges cause the financial burden based on salary gained with degree is often so large its for many not worth the burden.

But i do think those thing matters a lot more then just more money. Environment what takes to live minimaal in set city. And how much burden do you have financially on your shoulders.

And i think also many women also have a lot of credit card and student loan debts. What makes that they ask and require more from men at a minimum. Beside just the look im a influencer anoying group.

Cause many do want children and seems often impossible to do with massive debts chasing them. What is honestly very common. And in a way makes sense.

So its often not that simple as saying women are just being selfish and demanding more. Its often they vette men for potential father role. And with chasing burdens behind them. Even do that burden is not the mens fault it is a barrier from makeing possible or not to be in a position for a family.

If its fair or not does not matter. But it does make sense why they look at things in a more simple or i demand this way. Even of people dont agree with it. Its a push of society that kinda made it this way.

And just as man working longer to feel like they are ready for a family. So does the burden of debts and loans push women to be more shallow in nature. Cause they feel this looming problem has to be gone before im ready for a family.

And fair or not to a degree that isue or responsibility is pushed on the partners they seek. In there demands. Not all women but enough to have a big effect on how people date.

Like going dutch. Is a no go. He wont fix my problems i have. A lot of requirements are to look for a extrame provider male that would be willing to solving the problems women have.

And many cultures that dont have those isues like college is a lot more available and affordable. Going dutch is a normal standard. Cause you looking for a click with a person. Not a extrame provider role. So the requirements are both sides invest. Cause your strangers. And no one owns both sides anything. And only perks are given when a title is given to your bound.

So giveing girlfriend treatment to people your not at that level with is even seen as rude in many places in Europe. And is seen as being a player or a sleeze ball.

But in places in the usa its demanded to always act like every girl you have meet for the first time you have to give the girlfriend treatment. While a women has not earned that position yet.

And its much cause of the debt and how the social norm is in the usa that makes women demanding that.

No hate it makes sense in a degree. But its seen as weird everywhere else in the world. And i have traveled a ton around the world. But i have noticed this a lot in American women

meanas9 · 2024-10-15T10:48:28+00:00

If you have nothing else to talk about but your job or know how to steer a conversation with someone who you intially treated dismissively. Seems like you got your bias confirmed.

BearSpray007 · 2024-10-15T11:47:51+00:00

There are plenty of broke black dudes who get sex all the time. There’s seems to be a correlation between a man’s perceived masculinity and his ability to subvert certain rules. So yes average white guys? Yeah you probably need money. Hyper-masculine black guys tend NOT to need money to get sex. I don’t know if there’s a category of white guy that’s able to subvert the rules, I’m not really in those circles. I know there are serial killers that still get fan mail and marriage proposals, so maybe there’s a similar bad boy effect with white guys 🤷🏿‍♂️

chobolicious88 · 2024-10-15T12:00:23+00:00

My gut reaction is that its a major red flag (immediately asking for money), but then i thought, its a factor sooner or later so may as well own it

DamagedByPessimism · 2024-10-15T12:32:16+00:00

They dcking do!

daddysgotanew · 2024-10-15T14:03:30+00:00

100K isn’t moving the needle these days. I know a few 20-something girls who make that much working from home with some bullshit lib arts degree.

Once you get into the 300K+ range, it’ll start to attract women who are interested in money/lifestyle.

AntiHypergamist · 2024-10-15T15:19:00+00:00

Your money doesn't matter at all because guess what, you can just lie. You can't lie about your face.

DeJuanBallard · 2024-10-15T17:08:08+00:00

Broski, you proved how much money matters over everything else. She said "you look like a lawyer" , that translated to , "I approached you cause I thought you had money" she knew yall weren't close on age, she just also knew she was attractive and very likely to get you to spend money on her.

Ok-Turnover586 · 2024-10-15T18:44:41+00:00

Like anything in life, the context is always going to be "it depends".

It depends on who you're interacting with. It depends on sociocultural aspects. It depends on phase of life. It depends on social circles you run in. Etc.

businessJedi · 2024-10-15T21:28:01+00:00

No women ask a man, “would you mind coming over and talking to me”. This is 100% made up.

alebruto · 2024-10-14T22:19:14+00:00

I mean I don't honestly expect a woman like that to be super interested in me. But the way it seemed like my dollar value mattered was insane.

I definitely don't like the interest in me from low-value women like this.

That's why if I got divorced, I would remain single. I don't earn $100 thousand a year, but I earn $11 thousand a year, which is much more than the Brazilian average, I'm only with my wife because she was faithful in little (when we started dating I earned the Brazilian minimum wage) , so she deserves to be with me now, like a housewife who doesn't have to work if she doesn't want to.

With what I earn today, I have attracted some women like that, and I live a modest life, but unfortunately some people know how much I have in my account for reasons beyond my control.

BabaThoughts · 2024-10-14T22:59:04+00:00

I think she saw you. Thought you were a nice looking guy, and was kicking the tires…maybe a date? She’s likely tired of dating less established guys her age, and know she has good looks, it’s time for her to find a nice man, with a good job.

Sharp_Engineering379 · 2024-10-15T02:36:40+00:00

Every man I’ve ever met asks me what I do for a living? What is wrong with you people? It’s a normal question in polite society.

obviousredflag · 2024-10-15T06:42:08+00:00

I explained that I work in a boring job in finance in an office, when I said how much I make I could see her face change.

I mean I don't honestly expect a woman like that to be super interested in me. But the way it seemed like my dollar value mattered was insane.

Why would you say about yourself that you work a "boring job" and then be surprised when she also thinks you must be boring and loses interest?

Were you interested in her? It doesn't come off as you being into her and wanting to deepen anything with her. You were disinterested from the start and just kept talking to her for half an hour before she finally gave up on you. Not because she wasn't attractive, but because you don't even believe in yourself at this point. Your money was irrelevant. This girl wasn't looking for a husband. you looked more interesting than the alternatives, but you actually weren't.

Next time, just tell the girl you make 100k and see her lose interest in a guy who doesn't believe in himself just as quickly. Pro tip: you can be anyone you want in a bar.

HighlightDowntown966 · 2024-10-14T22:10:59+00:00

Sounds like a working girl

Title	If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.
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