Does redpil sees women as people who prevent men from getting sex as much as they want?

JackOfCrusades · 2025-12-18T21:00:24+00:00

I'll take these one at a time:

Do you think women collectively use sex against men?

Yes and no. I don't think that there's some secret cabal of women scheming to deprive men of sex, or anything like that. But women's desire is, most of the time, the limiting factor for sex. When you control access to a thing other people want, you (very naturally) have more power in the relationship. Not in a manipulative way, just in a "negotiated agreement" way.

Why do you think women don't have sex if they want it too?

A whole host of reasons. Sex is just riskier for women than for men. You're making yourself deeply vulnerable to somebody who is usually bigger and stronger than yourself. You're taking on at least some risk of pregnancy or STDs. There are a ton of social pressures that judge women more harshly than men for promiscuity. Right or wrong, you can't pretend they don't exist.

How do you know your sexuality is the right way?

It's not. It's just different. Female sexuality makes a ton of sense in the evolutionary and social context of women. Male sexuality makes a ton of sense in the evolutionary and social context of men. We're all just trying to figure out how to meet in the middle.

ViolentShallot · 2025-12-18T20:52:11+00:00

If you're properly red pilled you understand that women are constantly bombarded with a number of undesirable requests. That they have become selective and use a number of screening methods to test for integrity and congruence. That their initial aloofness is mostly self preservation, and that there's no malice on screening.

MarioWilson122 · 2025-12-19T03:57:00+00:00

Naw in most cases with random men, there is probably no malice intended, but it will suck regardless to be a man that is struggling to get access to something that the body heavily desires.

Yes, women can use it against men they are in a relationship with for sure, since they can cut off access to guys that don't do things the way they would like.

Which has defiantly happened to guys. Since sometimes its something that could lead to being in a dead bedroom situation.

catdog8020 · 2025-12-19T01:34:18+00:00

Not all women, but there is evidence that 3rd and 4th wave feminism has effectively emasculated men and reinforced female empowerment, decentering from men and female homosexuality.

midnight_blue77 · 2025-12-19T05:25:45+00:00

Does redpil sees women as people who prevent men from getting sex as much as they want?

No.

Next question please... these are easy 🙂

Do you think women collectively use sex against men?

Yes.

Why do you think women don't have sex with you if they want it too?

Because women are not as horny or sexually driven as men. They simply do not feel such a compulsion like men do. Our hormones and neurochemistry isn't the same.

What make r pill men sure that their sexuality is right and women's sexuality and sexual decisions are wrong?

There is no such belief in the Red Pill. The Red Pill is a metaphor for any truth that has the effect of creating a cascade of questioning in men's minds that eventually wakes them up from an emotion-induced intellectual stupor that is contrastingly called the Blue Pill. In simple words, Red Pill means "eyes opened to reality," and Blue Pill means "eyes closed to reality." It is not more complicated than that.

StopTheIncels · 2025-12-18T21:13:35+00:00

Yes. But more so in committed relationships.

I have been watching too much of James Sexton, but he said something along the lines of "the price of my solitude is your companionship" heavily implying that sex is an obligation in a marital contract. I actually agree and empathize with all the dead bedroomed husbands out there.

Ego73 · 2025-12-18T22:36:54+00:00

I don't think it's out of malice. It's simply that women aren't into men. They're not even chadsexual, it's only attention they're into.

So it is possible to easily get sex with women for men if you make it so your attention will be valuable (professionally successful and physically fit), meaning women might be willing to offer sex in exchange for continued attention. But at that point, it's not even worth it.

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HTML_Novice · 2025-12-18T20:45:38+00:00

There’s like 3 different questions in your op but I’ll address this one “do men think women collectively use sex against men”, yes, of course they do. Not maliciously, but just naturally. It’s not moralistic, it just is

southwestheat · 2025-12-18T20:51:07+00:00

Do you think women collectively use sex against men?

Yes, women use sex (or the suggestion of sex, such as a showy outfit) as a way to manipulate men to get a wide assortment of things that they want.

Why do you think women don't have sex with you if they want it too?

Because women don't have a male sex drive. It bothers women less to go without sex. Also, women can get sex very easily so psychologically sex doesn't mean for women what it does for men.

What make r pill men sure that their sexuality is right and women's sexuality and sexual decisions are wrong?

I don't think women's true sexuality is wrong in any way. It's women's manipulative use of sex/sexuality that is wrong. (Disclaimer: not all women, etc.)

kvakerok_v2 · 2025-12-18T21:16:41+00:00

Red pill sees (yeah yeah nawalt, bla bla bla) women as the "oldest teenager in the room", teens in grown-up bodies. They never learned discipline, or the value of having to earn respect, they're entitled even when they think they're humble, they boast about being humble, shallowness... we won't even go there.

Women announcing their "standards" while attracted to shady toxic guys to us is an equivalent of Doris from Nemo doing her monologue then going "Ooooh, SHINY!" Frankly, Doris from Nemo encapsulates the vast majority of modern women.

Having or not having sex is secondary, just a consequence of who they are. Some have ulterior motives, others are genuinely not interested, different strokes.

Having said all that, the angry red pill guys are simply in their anger stage of grief. They were taught that women are good, growing up. Then they met actual women, saw what they do. I keep telling them that getting angry at women over this is like getting angry at the wind for blowing or the Sun for rising in the East, with various levels of success.

mrbonee69 · 2025-12-18T22:23:44+00:00

This sub sometimes gives the impression that some men think that women prevent men from having as mush sex as they want out of malice or they have some ulterior motivation to withold sex.

That's a disingenuous way to frame your point. I have a feeling this is just going to be another male-bashing post.

Do you think women collectively use sex against men?

Yes, they do. The only unit of value that women understand is access to their hole and womens' in-group bias means that they will do whatever it takes to get a leg up. For women, the end justifies the means.

Why do you think women don't have sex with you if they want it too?

Because women believe that the only men worthy of sex are top ~20% chads.

What make r pill men sure that their sexuality is right and women's sexuality and sexual decisions are wrong?

Because male sexuality tends to be grounded in logic, while female sexuality tends to be grounded in emotion. Emotions lie, logic doesn't.

whatisupsatansass · 2025-12-18T23:54:40+00:00

I've very rarely seen women give us the benefit of the doubt on this topic.

Men say, "I prioritize sex in a relationship." And we hear in response,

"That's wrong. That's not ok. You're bad. You're manipulative. You don't care about us as people."

When we said we like sex. And we don't get sex. So it's ok to say we want it. And then when you do marry a woman, the trope through Aaaaaaaall of history is that they get stingy with it. And gaslight you by having this convo. "Oh I guess that's all you care about."

You all are clearly lying to get what you want. Commitment and then no further responsibility from you. "Why do men want sex?!" Oh you mean the free button we all have to receive pleasure. Stop entertaining their arguments men. They're lying to win. End of story.

N_Count_Council · 2025-12-18T21:09:39+00:00

This doesn't sound redpill at all lmao

Women aren't preventing me from having sex just because they don't drop panties as soon as I speak a word to them.

I think you don't know the difference between inkwells and redpill

SecondEldenLord · 2025-12-19T00:01:34+00:00

As redpill, I understand what kind of man I am and understand that I am not desired to women because of my physical flaws. Thus, I need to focus on money and status to attract women. We redpillers understand what women desire in me and there is no point to tell women what to be attracted to because attraction is not a choice

James_M_Croft · 2025-12-19T22:47:09+00:00

Yes and no. It is clear women are not giving sex to the "lovely" serious betas and giving it to "toxic" casual alphas despite their stated goals and desires.

And no. There is no ifs or doubts about this behavior from women and there is no sign of anything else. So we, TRP men, are acting accordingly. we copy those who succeed sexually and get our results. That is it.

A guy once said "TRP would be about finding wives and being good husbands if women rewarded that with good behavior and good sex" and I agree. Women lack of proper behavior and clear disconnect from what they say and do is why TRP exist. If women acted the way they state. We would be a completely different group.

You tell me. Why is a sexuality that goes against every stated goal of a woman right or wrong? We are not some moralist group. We just recognize the difference. And just react to actions. Simple as that.

TheOneWhoThinketh · 2025-12-18T20:47:07+00:00

You ask a variation of these questions every other week. The answer is always the same: those men are not "redpilled." The red pill is about trying to understand female sexual strategy, not argue with women about why their sexuality is wrong.

The-Devilz-Advocate · 2025-12-18T21:43:25+00:00

Do you think women collectively use sex against men?

I mean... yes? They do. But not completely. Like women do often treat sex as a reward for men and lack of sex as punishment.

But does it happen literally all the time? No. It just depends on the context.

Why do you think women don't have sex with you if they want it too?

In this very specific scenario, of her wanting to have sex with a guy, but not being able to, it would probably be along the lines of:

Work - Responsibilities
Super Tired
Cramps / Period etc
Time commitment or distance needed to travel to meet up.

What make r pill men sure that their sexuality is right and women's sexuality and sexual decisions are wrong?

No they don't tho. They simply state that women do sometimes use sex as a bargaining chip and wave it in front of the men they date because that's THEIR playbook just like redpill states that men should always be in the position of having options other than the girl they are dating. That does not mean redpill states that men should cheat but rather that they should always be striving to be desirable, because the chances are if a woman is attracted to you, most likely other women are.

Barely-moral · 2025-12-18T21:23:22+00:00

I can't speak for all red pill but I can speak for myself.

Women are (for now) the only source of a few things I need to live a happy life. Relationship, sex, romantic displays of affection.

Sure I can do a lot of things to increase the likelihood of a woman giving me what I want but nothing changes the fact that the final decision on me living a happy life or not is made by a woman.

No detail can change this fact.

Title	Does redpil sees women as people who prevent men from getting sex as much as they want?
Author	Jazzlike-Lifeguard38
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Date	December 18, 2025 8:41 PM UTC (7 months ago)
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