What exactly is toxic masculinity?

Infinitepez131 · 2020-09-05T04:34:23+00:00

I feel like the media and mainstream influencers have completely blown the definition away from what its actually supposed to mean so I'll try and define it how I've seen it in my life (23 M).

Traditional masculinity, mainly a western interpretation of it, is focused on the concept of strength, both mental and physical. Stoicism, strength, and support, are all incarnations of this idea.

Toxic Masculinity is when these ideas and notions are twisted and internalized by men to the point that they begin to negatively impact the people around them. The concept of stoicism being an exemplary part of masculinity has changed recently due to the fact that over 70% of all recorded suicides are by men. Many people associate this with the mentality that these men weren't reaching out because they wanted to be stoic and not seem weak. Many times, men will feel weak, and because traditional masculinity says that they need to be strong, they will "prove" it to themself by abusing the people around them.

SaBahRub · 2020-09-04T23:35:59+00:00

Emphasizing or exclusively promoting the dysfunctional aspects of masculinity. You know, violence, aggression, (external) sexual validation, emotional constipation, misogyny/homophobia, isolation, hierarchy, etc

That’s all. It’s not “men bad”. Healthy/functional masculinity exists, as does toxic femininity

SilentLurker666 · 2020-09-05T01:12:56+00:00

This question comes up all the time.

The challenge for feminist who created the term "toxic masculinity" is to try to come up with examples of masculinity that's not toxic. Till this day, they can't come up with a single example. So in the end all masculinity is toxic to feminists, which is really their uncovered intent to begin with.

aedvocate · 2020-09-05T00:33:20+00:00

A meaningless term used by feminists to undermine masculinity and villify strong masculine men. I've heard apparently"stoicism" is toxic masculinity by feminists.

The fact that there's no equivalent term for women tells you all there is to know behind their agenda.

The phenomenon it refers to is actually repressed masculinity. In a world where masculinity is seen as a bad thing, men are not taught what healthy masculinity is (telling men to express muh feelings doesn't count), and so they are misled. Unfortunately, if men were taught healthy masculinity, men would inevitably become patriarchal by nature, which represents an existential threat to feminists.

Like it or not, the entirety of civilisation has and will continue to be built on the backs of great men. Masculinity at its core is an active force, it's about having a vision for how you want to live your life and using your willpower to turn that vision into reality. Men are less neurotic, more able to cope with stress and a list of other traits that make men better at leading civilisation.

Grave_Heresy · 2020-09-05T13:12:37+00:00

Toxic masculinity is the most egregious example of copping out of a rational discussion about real problems that effect males.

It isn't a valid construct in psychology or sociology. Despite this, many academictavists play lip service to it in hopes that it will catch on in society at large. Looks like it's worked.

They do this for one simple reason, it allows them rationalize adhering to radical feminist ideology regardless of how inconsistent it is with reality.

What am I talking about?

Over the last 30 years, radical feminists have promoted the idea that society is an oppressive patriarchy. They have drawn on conflict theory (Marxism) to articulate a theoretical basis for this claim.

For the uninitiated, conflict theory is a sociological theory that asserts that all of society and human history is marked by group based oppression.

They claim that people fall into one of two classes based on identity: those who are dominant (Oppressor classes) and those who subordinate (Oppressed classes).

The essential hypothesis of conflict theory is that every identity (Race, age, sex, SES etc..) places an individual within a group based hierarchy and can reliably predict socioeconomic outcomes.

Conflict theory states that dominant classes do better than the subordinate classes in every aspect of life.

In general this analysis accurately predicts economic, political and health outcomes for just about every group involved in the power relations described.

However, there it doesn't hold water in terms of male-female group relations. Specifically, it fails to account for the multiple ways in which men are clearly disadvantaged in society.

If patriarchy is a self perpetuating system that truly benefits men over women in a similar way as say racism for example benefits a whites over a minority group then we can expect a specific set of outcomes for each group according to conflict theory.

But this isn't the case for men and women's lives. In the US, men account for the majority of homeless, the majority of victims of all violent crime, the majority of false arrests and false convictions, are given harsher sentences (Even for the same crimes), account for roughly 45-50% of IPV victims.

Almost all male babies have their genitals mutilated via circumcision (A decision which the mother solely makes despite not having a penis herself), cannot vote unless they agree to serve in the military come draft time, have lower education attainment across the board and have the lower lifespan (Which makes sense when you consider the above factors).

In fact, with the exception of political power and wealth held almost exclusively by a small group of white males, the majority of men (99%) have lives that can't be described as privileged compared to women.

In fact, in many ways the outcomes (In health, education and incarceration) observed with men are much more similar to what you would see in a subordinate group rather than a dominant group.

So, to explain this away the RadFems have grabbed hold of "toxic masculinity" (Something created by a leftist branch of the men's movement) as an explanation for why men by and large aren't benefitting from the system that supposedly privileges them.

Rather than acknowledging women's part in perpetuating these systems in order to benefit themselves as a group, they instead opt to continue to abdicate any responsibility and try to make the issue entirely men's fault.

People like Michael Kimmel & Raewyn Connell have basically built their careers on explaining this discrepancy away whilst simultaneously vilifying the very same men that are being harmed by it.

Now to be clear, a great deal of this is on men since we are doing the "dirty work" in order to simp for women. However, feminists have got to stop pretending like women had no stake in perpetuating these systems (Slavery, genocide, pillaging) or that the women on the winning teams haven't immensely benefitted from them.

TL; DR Toxic masculinity is not a valid psychological construct and was coopted from the mythopoetic men's movement by radical feminists in order to explain away why "patriarchy" (A supposedly male privileging system) harms and kills men at much higher rates than it does women.

wtknight · 2020-09-05T00:41:19+00:00

It's anything men do to feel or show masculinity that ultimately harms themselves. Manosphere men seem to often argue that no masculinity is toxic because it all helps to get them sex. The problem with much of masculinity is that it is by its nature competitive, which means that some men are going to be winners and get the prizes (sex, money and power), while others are going to be the losers and get none of that, or even worse die in violence while trying to get those things.

roundabout44 · 2020-09-05T10:29:02+00:00

Toxic masculinity in this perverted society is essentially:

"Dear men, we need your strength, we need your leadership, we need your numbers, we love when you defend women and the weak, we love when you fight wars to preserve our way of life, we love when you work in coal mines, we love the top tier sportsmanship in all kinds of sports - for that you need masculinity and testosterone, however, we don't like that it also makes you aggressive, violent, and patriarchal. So can you just stop doing that but still do the first part, that would be great, thanks!"

It's basically leftists trying to eat their cake and have it. Nonsense as usual.

poppy_blu · 2020-09-04T23:55:26+00:00

Examples:

-Hypersexuality - men engaging in dangerous and high risk sexual behavior to prove they are men because men are highly sexually successful (and to prove they aren't gay).

-Violence - men engaging in unncessary violent behavior (bar fights, street fights, gangs, etc) to prove they are men because men are tough and overly aggressive.

-Rage - men expressing their emotions regardless of what they are as extreme anger to prove they are men because the only emotion men are allowed to express is anger. This is why men have a higher incidence of heart disease.

2020-09-05T04:44:56+00:00

Toxic masculinity is a conspiracy theory introduced by feminists to cover up the gynocentric behavior of the society. That's it

Kaisha001 · 2020-09-04T23:35:21+00:00

apa.org states that (https://www.apa.org/monitor/2019/01/ce-corner):

traditional masculinity—marked by stoicism, competitiveness, dominance and aggression—is, on the whole, harmful

So yeah. Pretty much feminists wanted yet another excuse to demonize men. Because those traits, while certainly masculine, are not necessarily toxic; and certainly not 'on the whole' harmful.

Dora_Bowl · 2020-09-04T23:27:50+00:00

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death_by_1000_cats · 2020-09-05T00:38:58+00:00

(Please note that the following is not my opinion or endorsement of these views, but simply defining the term.)

Toxic masculinity is the MRA answer to the feminist concept of internalized misogyny. (No, toxic masculinity didn't originate as a feminist term or concept, although feminists have somewhat coopted it.) Essentially, it is the way in which societally-forced standards of masculinity harm the men who internalize them.

For example, some would say that men suffering in silence or numbing their emotional pain with chemical substances because it's seen as weak/unmanly to seek mental health treatment is a result of toxic masculinity.

There term has been misappropriated, misinterpreted and misapplied to mean something more along the lines of "aspects of masculinity that hurt women/society at large" or just that masculinity in and of itself is inherently toxic. It's evolved into a term used to shame men instead of its original purpose which was to give men a framework with which to discuss how gendered expectations negatively impact them.

uchihaitachi1237 · 2020-09-05T04:27:14+00:00

There is no such thing. Don't subdue your inherent masculine traits to become a beta pussy

Zippo-Cat · 2020-09-05T07:13:00+00:00

It's nonsense invented by women to shit on men under the guise of helping them and "caring"

kor8der · 2020-09-05T07:15:22+00:00

In essence, it's effectively used as a motte and bailey. On one hand, it is used to argue how bad masculinity is, and by extension, how bad men are. On the other, once that is attacked, it is treated as if all that was ever meant by the term, is that men suffer under the pressure to perform masculine behaviors. There is a third here, seeing that even the ones arguing toxic masculinity can't seem to agree about the definition: The extreme behaviors vaguely, or not at all linked to a societal masculinity, for example only being allowed the emotional expression of anger (plainly ludicrous from someone socialized as a man), or engaging in random violence.

It's useless, a term poisoned by ideology more than empiricism.

Dora_Bowl · 2020-09-04T23:56:46+00:00

The term is pretty much just meaningless in discourse right now, but originally it was meant to describe how men's attempts to conform to masculinity harms them.

LooseIndication · 2020-09-05T02:47:20+00:00

"Toxic masculinity" is hate speech against men.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, socialism realized that their discourse of "workers exploited by employers" failed.

So they switched to "minority class exploited by majorities", and started a new hate speech tactic:

Creating conflicts between

Men and women

Whites and blacks

Heterosexuals and LGBT

Indigenous vs immigrants

Muslim vs cristians

Religious vs atheists

TERF women vs communist feminists

Any "oppressed" vs "oppressors", "victim" vs victimaries"

The objective is to disintegrate society, and create chaos, to trigger the communist revolution.

Because up to that point only liberals cared for minorities, and socialist always were the worst enemies of liberals, socialism invented a strawman called "neoliberalism", a fictitious demonic entity which does not has any member, representant, defendant, theory, or intellectuals.

That way socialist can pretend that socialism was always in favor of minorities (despite having implemented concentration camps for minorities and extermination programs), and liberalism "Is a different thing", called "neoliberalism".

Sid_Insidious · 2020-09-05T00:17:09+00:00

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taapy234 · 2020-09-05T00:28:15+00:00

Toxic masculinity makes WAP. Atleast that's what I learned after taking the redpill.

Remember, most of the young women you see are never going to "settle" for all their 20's. So it makes no sense that they would choose a "stable" man for anything.

So just emulate what women find attractive in the short term.

Maaaaate · 2020-09-05T00:08:53+00:00

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Wallstreet3 · 2020-09-05T09:50:32+00:00

Depends in the woman. One woman's toxic masculinity is another woman's wet pussy.

2020-09-05T11:22:44+00:00

I don't use the term at all anymore – because it's gotten so twisted.

What I meant when I began using the term a few years ago was self-destructive masculinity. The type where men grow up to become adults that don't know how to handle negative emotion and when to get help.

When I began speaking about it, it was not written of as the feminist tranquilizer it is today. Fact is, the core of the issue was that men grow up without having the opportunity to learn some essential self-managing.

Now, I often see it being used to just call out sexist behaviours that might stem from benevolence.

chrisdidwht · 2020-09-05T00:20:56+00:00

Anything men do that doesnt benefit women.

DBOLandDECA · 2020-09-05T02:48:04+00:00

Toxic masculinity is the aspects of masculinity that are inconvenient for women.

RottingAway90 · 2020-09-05T02:52:38+00:00

Toxic masculinity imo is basically just ‘insecure masculinity’. It’s when men act homophobic or hate on women for the sake of preserving their masculinity. Not that masculinity is bad in itself.

Mimoxs · 2020-09-04T23:22:18+00:00

I understand it as these bizarre standards and rules of masculinity that men adhere to religiously that are not only unnecessary, but bordering on or definitively harmful.

Men consider things to be hallmarks of masculinity that they have to show off to prove themselves, or things they can't do it they're not masculine enough, usually entirely constructed by men that women could care less about or even would prefer they didn't do.

Why was/is masculinity needed?

Warfare and fighting off other men from "your" woman

Is physical strength the most important aspect of traditional masculinity?

Pretty much

KerPop42 · 2020-09-05T01:04:20+00:00

Masculine social norms that are harmful. For example, pretending that feeling emotions or connections with each other is emasculating, or that men can’t be vulnerable. I think it’s not the best framework to talk about men’s lib, but that’s what it refers to

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aedvocate · 2020-09-05T01:11:25+00:00

Practice termed 'toxic' undermines the legitimacy of the thing, and drives others away from it. Look at toxic behavior in online gaming communities - same story. So masculinity that drives other people away from men or undermines the legitimacy of manliness is toxic.

Toxic behavior is part of the tradition of masculinity. Masculinity is not needed. Physical strength is an intrinsic part of traditional masculinity - but I do think that emotional control / bravery in the face of superior physical strength is even more fundamental. A weak-ass nerd refusing to be cowed by a beefy bully is a pretty manly ideal.

thetruthishere_ · 2020-09-05T02:20:28+00:00

I dont know, I just know there are toxic behaviours on both sides.

Toxic behaviours are just toxic be it man or a woman.

Being aggressive or violent both sides can display, its just toxic. Period.

Braindead_Nihilist · 2020-09-05T03:04:20+00:00

Toxic masculinity is the end result of taking masculine aspects to the extreme, so much so that they hurt the individual, those around them, or both.

How does it differ from traditional masculinity?

It doesn't, really. As I said above, it's the end result of taking those traditionally masculine aspects to the extreme.

Why was/is masculinity needed?

Masculinity is one half of the whole that perpetuated human existence for thousands of years. Masculinity is most needed to maintain a semblance of order, in my opinion. I often point to the fact that it's Father Time and Mother Nature. The masculine aspect is constant, predictable, ordered, etc. Honestly though that question is sexist as hell.

Why was/is femininity needed? See what I mean?

Is physical strength the most important aspect of traditional masculinity?

No. It is the backbone of the more important traits, though. A man can only be gentle if he is capable of great destruction. A man can only protect the innocent if he has the strength to stand in front of them.

jkonrad · 2020-09-05T03:21:23+00:00

No such thing.

For example, a feminist might tell you that violence is a part of toxic masculinity.

When you ask her what she thinks about her man violently defending her and their children, her eyes will glaze over. Ask her if she would honor his memory as a hero if he died violently protecting his family, or if she would claim he died of “toxic masculinity”.

Watch her face. If she has any humanity left at all she will begin to weep and rethink her life.

Every supposedly “toxic” behavior is a virtue if deployed for good.

There are only toxic men (and women). It has nothing to do with their masculinity or femininity, and everything to do with the principles by which they live.

When women complain about toxic masculinity, take it in the same way as if they complained about “where are all the good men.”

The issue isn’t that there’s a lack of good men, the issue is that for some reason she can’t attract them.

dogfartswamp · 2020-09-05T03:55:04+00:00

The term suddenly started making sense to me when I went back recently and relistened to some of the nu-metal bands I liked as a kid. Back when Limp Bizkit was the biggest rock band in the nation. I can’t think of a better emblem of toxic masculinity than Fred Durst. He’s got the fragility, the cockiness, the adolescent mind, the aggression that seems to want come out on anyone close enough. He’s oblivious to his own talentlessness. He’s the guy at school who’d shove his face in yours and say, “the fuck you looking at, homo”, and then say, “Thought so,” as you stare at him blankly like the totally unhinged but totally banal creature he is.

escapadablur · 2020-09-05T04:10:01+00:00

I think of it like a psych disorder. It's only a psych disorder if it's maladaptive or negatively impacts them self or the people around them. Masculinity in and of itself isn't toxic, it's how it's utilized that makes it toxic. Being strong and aggressive (like for self-defense or completing tasks that require heaps of grit) isn't inherently toxic. Being strong and aggressive to intimidate a woman into coercive consent is toxic.

12112019 · 2020-09-05T04:10:53+00:00

It is the feminist conflation of some types of behaviors by low iq men with masculinity, masculinity has nothing to do with it, it is the combination of low iq and shitty upbringing by degenerate parents

words-for-blood · 2020-09-05T05:03:20+00:00

Toxic masculinity: ‘boys don’t cry’, ‘man up’, etc. Stuff that forgets that men have emotions and are humans capable of being hurt and sad. Toxic femininity exists too, but we’d probably slide stuff like crazy physical ideals and probably slut shaming in there too. Ladies tend to do it more than men, I’ve found. But the crazy physical ideals could probably qualify as TM as well, given the whole ideal of the Capt America bod that is just not realistic for the majority of men.

Basically the best way to break it down is that if it’s making you feel bad for a way you’re ‘supposed’ to be, it’s toxic. If it’s making you feel bad because you’re not a man like you’re supposed to be, or that you have to act to certain ideals in order to be a man (‘my partner has to cum first’ comes to mind, because sometimes I just don’t get off AND I DONT CARE JUST FUCK ME) then I would consider it toxic masculinity.

tropicsGold · 2020-09-05T05:03:57+00:00

Toxic masculinity is a blatantly hateful sexist term used by fascist feminazis in a vain attempt to mask their hateful ideology with ambiguous attacks that mean nothing except that they hate the masculine.

MrJive01 · 2020-09-05T05:11:00+00:00

Think about how every time in King of The Hill when Bobby finds something he's passionate about and Hank shuts it down because it doesn't fit his view of what a man does.

Trickledownrain · 2020-09-05T05:16:40+00:00

I think I have a different perception of toxic masculinity. For me it basically means bullying someone's identity in an effort to force them to conform to a very strict, and sometimes unrealistic and unhealthy (mentally, physically) standards.

i.e. If you identify as a man and you express emotions freely through the whole spectrum, including traditionally undesirable one's to be expressed by men your identity may be threatened by others by them saying you're "not a man".

If you exhibit traits and/or interest or have hobbies that are traditionally considered feminine you're not a man.

You're only a man if you X,Y,& Z.

Things of that nature.

2020-09-05T05:43:47+00:00

Toxic masculinity: violence, “feelings are for pussies” attitude, domination over cooperation

Wholesome masculinity: uses strength to help or defend others, dads, challenging yourself

SteveSan82 · 2020-09-05T07:04:16+00:00

Toxic masculinity is “men don’t want me so I hate men”

akihonj · 2020-09-05T08:35:37+00:00

It's all down to perception and a way for women to shame men or to abuse men with the cover of making them better.

Let's take a very simple example, let's say you're on a date with a woman, you get the door for her, you think that you're being s gentleman and looking out for her, she appreciates that gesture, another woman sees it and thinks it's wrong, often because nobody had done that for her.

You can be easily accused of being toxic or of toxic masculinity because from her perspective, your displaying dominance over that woman.

Let's take another example, violence is argued as an example, how though is it if that violence is used to defend or protect another, well here's where it gets spicy then, if a woman sees a man being violent and doesn't have the full context of why she is justified to claim toxic masculinity, yet if men everywhere reject the use of violence men are shamed by the very same women for being cowards for not protecting them, not being prepared for war to protect them, that they will have to go to some shit bowl country to die instead of the men.

poison-fang-blade · 2020-09-05T16:30:59+00:00

Anything men are or do that doesn't benefit feminists.

bionix90 · 2020-09-05T17:26:34+00:00

From personal experience, when you're a man and you say something that a woman disagrees with... you're toxic.

The phrase has lost all meaning. Like simp, incel, and thot, once it went mainstream, it started being used to attack people you disagree with.

QQZeMane · 2020-09-05T18:21:49+00:00

Simple. It is one of those Humpty Dumpty words. It means whatever the speaker chooses it to mean, neither more nor less

dorksideofnever · 2020-09-05T18:28:18+00:00

It's a phrase commended by people who take gender studies as a major. This is in some essence an excuse for shitty women to act shitty and then try and justify it

Natey-Matey · 2020-09-05T18:49:33+00:00

It’s when men refuse to do anything slightly considered feminine in fear of being seen as gay or just more feminine. I wouldn’t say it’s toxic but when said man puts other men down for doing said “feminine” thing, that’s when it gets toxic. It’s got nothing to do with women themselves

MDBVer2 · 2020-09-05T19:32:58+00:00

In the simplest terms, it's forcing men into a box. This box has very specific things in it that define what being a man is, and anything outside of the box, if touched even once, will make you less of a man, "cucked", "beta", "numale", "soy".

It has become kind of meme, with people espousing things like a man ordering water with lemon is and indication that he's gay.

Sid_Insidious · 2020-09-05T21:09:02+00:00

Toxic Masculinity: Something that can't exist because toxic femininity (according to them) cannot exist.

Just like "male privilege", which cannot exist, if no female privileges exist.

It's just a bunch of bullshit constructed by man-hating feminists to demonise men and male behaviour.

For example, feminists cannot SHUT UP about how men are more assertive than women when it comes to approaching and asking out women. They say men are creepy, rapey and inappropriate and that all this "unwanted male attention" is not just making ALL WOMEN feel uncomfortable, but truly afraid for their very lives. They also claim that a woman literally takes her life into her hands every time she rebuffs a man romantically or sexually.

YET

When polled, women say that they still expect men to approach, ask them out, plan dates and pay for those dates. So, feminists are NOT listening to the desires and expectations of women.

Other examples of "toxic masculinity"

Violence. (Unless he's using his size and strength to protecting her or defend her honour).

Aggression (Unless he's being aggressive competing to get her, or resources for her)

Stoicism (Unless her being unable to read his emotions is a major turn on).

Overt Sexuality (Horrific if he's not attractive, panty drenching if he is).

"Entitled to Sex" (Again, horrific, unless his confidence in escalating turns her on.)

Toxic masculinity COULD be defined as inappropriate male behaviour where toxic femininity could be the gender-flipped corollary. Like women performing retro-active abortion on their own kids (murder), or calling a man a child-rapist to get full custody in court. Or for being jealous of, and toxic to, every female who is thinner or better looking. Or for constantly stirring up trouble and drama in her social circles using lies or just gossip.

The Red Pill doesn't call this "toxic femininity" we just call it shitty female behaviour. They then quickly fire back and say NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT and we reply "Most are, and all of them can be, given enough time or the right circumstances."

2020-09-05T22:01:45+00:00

Toxic masculinity is following abitrary standards of conformity that are against the interests of the individual and I would say the society as a whole.

For example when considering domestic violence;

Many trad men would find it hillarious and openly mock a man that is the victim of emotional and physical violence at the hands of a woman and to them it would be an indication of the weakness of the man, what man is so pathetic that he cant even stand up to his wife/girlfriend.

Those few trad men who acknowledge that domestic violence is a legitimate issue just say that men should go to the gym, which is utter garbage as being physically imposing does not preclude you from being a victim of domestic abuse.

In any case what good would going to the gym do if you are unable to properly defend yourself, both trad men and feminists would condemn the man in this case, as no real man hits a woman, with some even covering this rule as far as legit self defense.

Where trad men are kind of right is that excepting serious mental health for a woman to physically assault you suggests the highest level of contempt and dispespect that she has for you as a man.

So in a sense they are right that the man is seen as weak and contempible in the opinion of the abuser, however the answer isnt to "become a real man" and defend yourself neither is it to attempt to take control of the relationship.

the only thing you can do in that situation is to walk away as there is no solution that ends in your favor rather than giving up, to trad men this is a sign of lack of charachter.

sealedIndictments · 2020-09-06T04:29:57+00:00

Healthy: mentally strong enough to resist mobs and find a way to provide in a complex and difficult world, wise enough to make the right decisions for your family, physically strong enough to protect them and defend them.

Unhealthy: your self worth is tied to domination or you base value on having lots of partners, often forgoing the critical male roles of father and husband in favor of being a perpetual playboy. You seek the trappings of masculinity, like a particular physique, and other affects that have more to do with causing other people to perceive you as masculine because you care too much what is thought of you.

skystar86 · 2020-09-06T14:49:33+00:00

Something academia decided to make up and lecture people about.

Sid_Insidious · 2020-09-07T01:30:09+00:00

Toxic Masculinity: Normal male behaviour that feminists want men to stop because that behaviour gets women sleeping with men and feminists hate men, hate other women and hate themselves and PARTICULARLY hate that a man and woman might be out there fucking up a storm right now but the feminist isn't getting paid and lives in a shitty apartment with $150K of student loan debt from a useless gender studies degree.

00Starved00 · 2020-09-08T10:04:55+00:00

YouTube Bill Burrs “what are you, a fag?” bit. Perfectly describes it.

TheBookOfSeil · 2020-09-05T00:36:40+00:00

Toxic masculinity is basically associating anything that is harmful or dangerous to others or oneself as being "masculine."

Examples: drinking alcohol in any fashion, reckless/overaggressive driving, n-count bragging or virgin-shaming, and many more.

SlutsHaveDaddyIssues · 2020-09-05T01:14:14+00:00

Women use men for sex, oblivious to the fact that in doing so, they exhibit behaviour defined as "toxic masculinity". Sexual liberalism is a folly. Women identifying with feminism who condemn sexual immorality are often targets of derision. Kween shat.

CatchPhraze · 2020-09-05T01:49:19+00:00

Masculinity is having the power to hurt others and the self control to use it wisely

Toxic masculinity never gets to step two. It festers and becomes...toxic.

Toxic masculinity is also fragile. It's the reason men are too afraid of being gay or week to go see a doctor.

SlutsHaveDaddyIssues · 2020-09-05T02:17:40+00:00

Masculinity is so toxic, women emulate undesirable traits of men and become what they despise and blame it all on the boogeyman-patriarchy.

In fact, masculinity would be blamed for the misfortunes of women even if the male sex was to somehow completely disappear. On the cusp of human extinction, the last remaining person will be one of two women, the victor of The Great Female Civil War, and she will protect her feelings by absolving herself of responsibility and cursing men despite there not being another soul around to evoke her shame.

"REEEEEEEE!"

SeemedGood · 2020-09-05T02:30:10+00:00

All the things which subconsciously and innately turn women on, but don’t fit with their desired conscious self-image and therefore must be decried.

2020-09-05T06:38:58+00:00

If women want to defeat "toxic masculinity" they should start fucking janitors.

Title	What exactly is toxic masculinity?
Author	knowledgeseeker999
Upvotes	77
Comments	479
Date	September 4, 2020 10:41 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/impzju/what_exactly_is_toxic_masculinity/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/what-exactly-is-toxic-masculinity.211444 https://theredarchive.com/post/211444

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