"We are working on changes to make reddit a safer space for discourse."

Halfjor · 2015-05-07T16:29:59+00:00

Reddit is home to communities like /r/picsofdeadkids and /r/coontown, yet TRP gets the most vitrol.

I know some people feel "threatened", but at the end of the day the vehement opposition to TRP still blows my mind. Where's the evidence of doxxing and malicious activity that places like /r/shitredditsays have? How many times has TRP raided other parts of reddit? Show me the rape strategies and the horrifying discussions that take place here. Show me all the exploited people and damage TRP has caused.

Maybe if it was a small community you could brush it off or censor it. TRP now has over 100,000 subscribers. Our discussions are more thought out and intelligent than 99% of the communities on this website. Hate speech? Unsafe space? If you can't handle swearing and rough language you should go back to fucking kindergarten.

If you want a very simple compass for who has the wrong ideas and intentions, look for the people that want censorship. If you can't push your ideas without censorship, you have shitty ideas. Ideas that can't face opposition or criticism are automatically bad. Nothing intelligent or well thought is produced in a censorship ridden echo-chamber. Take a look around TRP. We don't censor anything. Thoughts and ideas flow. Opposing viewpoints are deconstructed, analyzed, and discussed. We don't have language guidelines and bullshit "safe space" rules. That is how strong and valuable ideas are developed.

Fuck man. /r/TheRedPill is populated by 110,000 men. They discuss what's important to them. It's not about women. It's not about hate or ignorance. It's about men. A huge amount of the discussion is unrelated to women. Fitness, careers, non-romantic social issues, and much more.

I can't even imagine how stupid someone must be to think the could justify censoring this community. If I had my way I wouldn't ban anyone that had different views than me. SRS, TwoX, Feminism, and any other communities like that are welcome on reddit. Free and open discussion is the key to a healthy society. I think most everyone here would agree with me.

Censorship makes me fucking sick. If this community is banned, reddit is officially dead.

CopperFox3c · 2015-05-07T16:47:17+00:00

The ironic thing about "free speech" is that it is often the more moderate voices that get shouted down. Is anything we are saying here on TRP all that radical? We've got people on here discussing Nietzsche, David Hume, and Marcus Aurelius. People basing their arguments on scientific evidence, evolutionary psychology, and rational thought.

The only thing "radical" or "vitriolic" about TRP is that we don't fit into mainstream thought. But most things didn't when first conceptualized.

LordXerces · 2015-05-07T16:27:10+00:00

"Safe space". That term makes me shudder. The SJW movement is actively working towards turning every place on Earth into a McDonalds ballpen. They're constantly portraying the world as a dangerous place where words can give PTSD if you're not careful, and more and more people are swallowing these delusions of fear and paranoia. God bless Generation V(ictimhood).

PartyTrickster · 2015-05-07T16:14:44+00:00

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rubixx392 · 2015-05-07T22:08:36+00:00

No offense to whoever put it together, but http://puerarchy.com/ is a shitty site to foster any kind of community. It's essentially just a poorly-designed blog with old articles. There is no obvious way I'm seeing for someone to make a post. Even an old archaic forum would be better suited. Forums like this, this, or this.

If you want this community to die, send them to www.puerarchy.com in its current form.

vengefully_yours · 2015-05-07T17:00:53+00:00

Voltaire: "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise"

More on point, to learn who wants to rule over you.

We take criticism, we exchange ideas freely, sure there is butthurt in that, but that's how life works. I've not yet seen a call to doxx nor harrass anyone who dissents with our thinking, but it happens in other subs against us. Mostly I laugh about it, because I've had people try to kill me in real life, and calling me names with multiple accounts online is an ineffective means of persuasion. Yes they've done that. Filled my inbox with drivel and bad names the horror. They can attack us with impunity, yet we are to blame. They hate us and accuse us of hating, when we simply observe the world around us rather than try to force it to be something it's not. They are the religious zealots, shouting and trying to kill or destroy any dissenting views, because their ideology is based in feels, myths, fiction, and wants, not reality, just like a religion.

This is a safe space for men, well as safe as we can get these days. A threat to ban us is akin to saying men do not deserve a space like this. It simply demonstrates what we have been saying, men are expendable, and feminists don't want equality tney want supremacy. They can have their subs, where they can say any hateful and bigoted thing they like, but we are somehow not allowed to simply talk about improving our own lives?

The weak silence dissent through heavy handed force. Ideology that needs force to quell dissent is inherently weak, and obviously not based in reality. Doesn't matter if it's talking snakes, golden chariots, supposed rape culture, or the wage gap myth. There is no factual basis behind it, it's an often told lie that gains creeddence through multiple hearing, not via reality.

Who is claiming victim status? The war on women is just as fictional as the war on Christmas. Dissent against either nets you an angry tirade. Dissent against TRP nets you amusement. I find this entire thing absurd and amusing, as if 51% of the population is somehow downtrodden, especially when they have 100% of the vaginas.

Baylien2 · 2015-05-07T16:31:39+00:00

"Safe spaces" are for pussies that can't defend their viewpoints.

kick6 · 2015-05-07T16:56:15+00:00

Apparently "discourse" now means "echo chamber."

That's fine. There's a lot more to this red pill thing than this sub. If it goes away...we move on.

CisWhiteMaelstrom · 2015-05-07T16:10:25+00:00

Shutting us down will lead to so many new unplugged. I bet that's a contributing reason that we're still allowed to exist. Fuck that hugbox shit though. Where's the safety in TwoX if I want to show up and rant about how sluts and alimony laws ruin any meaningful prospect of a good marriage or if I want to shout at "survivors" that they know damn well they weren't raped?

Masonjarteadrinker2 · 2015-05-07T18:30:20+00:00

Whether this gets shut down or not, I'm glad I came across this sub in my lifetime.

derkonigistnackt · 2015-05-07T17:43:38+00:00

Do we need a .onion already?

buster2209 · 2015-05-07T19:40:13+00:00

How much safer can one get when sitting in the comfort of their own abode typing and responding to words on a monitor...?

The fuckin' gods wept...

jsphere256 · 2015-05-07T19:02:42+00:00

Safe space... aren't we literally talking about text on a screen here? I'm confused about what exactly makes a comment thread unsafe. Possible danger of getting criticized and BTFO for saying something ridiculous? Sounds like the real threat to SJW's is any contact with the outside world at all.

wantonton · 2015-05-07T16:47:39+00:00

I never understood this. If "polite" society refuses to participate in "impolite" conversations, "polite" society is then, by necessity, abandoning those listening to such conversations to be informed solely by those who are not so polite.

NSA_web_spider · 2015-05-07T18:15:53+00:00

I say if they shut it down, all 100,000 of us move to 2XC. Keep posting like we usually would, but just swap out the genders. Maybe we can get them shut down too?

If they want to ruin this sub, they shouldn't try to ban it, they should make it part of the Default. That's a foolproof plan for ruining any sub.

ANakedBear · 2015-05-07T20:17:51+00:00

But what if this is MY safe space?

Riddick_ · 2015-05-08T01:15:20+00:00

www.puerarchy.com - is a poorly designed website and not a viable forum. puerarchy.com = Fail.

Also shift out of the reactive mode. Instead of waiting for Event Horizon X, the TRP community can make a project to build an alternative forum independent from reddit. Get a proper domain name. TRP in the name, not purewhatever.

Control over this website should be divided over a few trusted key people, for example current mods in TPR, so that the project cannot be Sold or Shut Down without all parties agreement.

First move the side material, and then transition those that want to participate in a alternative forum based on similar TRP ideas. Only then TRP will be truly free.

That being said if this Feelz like "change" gets in gear, there are some real-fucked-up^TM subs that will likely go first.

Sidebar - > Join the Emergency Mailer List, if you are reading this and haven't done so yet, DO IT NOW!

Note: I suppose the only good thing is that puerarchy.com is running the Emergency Mailer List. Then again, who is behind this project is not clear, and who is collecting all this information. Some disclosure is needed.

coffee_and_lumber · 2015-05-07T18:38:44+00:00

It's easy to drum up vitriol for this sub. You can find plenty of outlandish, egregious statements against women and others here. Most of which isn't supported by the mainstream of TRP. But it's allowed nonetheless. A lot of men here have to go through an extended and uncomfortable anger phase upon realizing they've been played by society. It should be uncomfortable, and they should exorcise their demons. I know I've written (or at least upvoted) fucked up statements here, but I've also had plenty to say and agree with that was downright on point.

However, those who have decided we're evil will only cherry-pick the worst that comes out of here and totally miss the overarching mission. What we are doing here will be good for society as a whole, and it can be argued that this is only a natural response to 21st century feminism way way overstepping the bounds of reason.

I don't know about the rest of you, but what I've learned here has only strengthened my marriage and my bonds with my male friends. I'm more focused and powerful at my job. I spend my time more wisely. I am getting in shape. I am experiencing a sort of gravitational pull that is attracting both the interest of women and the trust of other men and adding a nice glow of validation to my steadily rising confidence. I have to wonder how many of those on TwoX or Relationships are making comparative headway.

THE_Masters · 2015-05-07T19:17:34+00:00

Reddit had become a stale dry place for me lately and this is one of the only subs I still come back for. It's the only sub that engages me, there's stimulating topics, not just about bullshit that doesn't matter. I feel like I learn something new every time I come here. At the end of the day this is a self improvement sub that brings nothing but a positive environment for likeminded people if someone wants to take that away then I hope they rot in hell.

Blacknite007 · 2015-05-07T19:28:44+00:00

http://www.puerarchy.com/ Hasn't been updated since August 23, 2013. We need to do better than that guys in case reddit shuts down /r/TheRedPill/

rp-disciple · 2015-05-07T17:31:38+00:00

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truthuncensored · 2015-05-07T17:56:53+00:00

Exclusively male spaces are anathema to feminism. They absolutely must have their viewpoints injected and pushed.

GayLubeOil · 2015-05-07T19:10:03+00:00

What you guys need to remember is that reddit is a partnership between multiple corporations and the government. The most obvious symptom of this is how certain things strategicly float to the top of the front page at specific times.

Anti Russia, Anti Syria, Anti Gaddafi, Pro LEO posts got shilled to the top at key times. Meanwhile nothing negative gets said about Saudi Arabia, America's butt budy despite their funding of terrorism and real opression of women.

The next thing to remember is that there is tremendous money behind the feminist agenda which is a convenient shoehorn for the government and globalist agenda. That street harsment video had a budget of 100k. How? Why?

Women in the workplace drives down the cost of labor. Safe spaces promote censorship. Feminist laws fill jails. Planned Parenthood aids in the depopulation agenda. Not letting your wife spend all your money is abuse according to feminists. Everything that feminist want the elite wants too. Here is some delicious copy pasta on the subject.

To secure the draft, individual brainwashing/programming and both the family unit and the peer group must be engaged and brought under control.

Factor II - Father The man of the household must be housebroken to ensure that junior will grow up with the right social training and attitudes. The advertising media, etc., are engaged to see to it that father-to-be is pussy-whipped before or by the time he is married. He is taught that he either conforms to the social notch cut out for him or his sex life will be hobbled and his tender companionship will be zero. He is made to see that women demand security more than logical, principled, or honorable behavior. By the time his son must go to war, father (with jelly for a backbone) will slam a gun into junior's hand before father will risk the censure of his peers, or make a hypocrite of himself by crossing the investment he has in his own personal opinion or self-esteem. Junior will go to war or father will be embarrassed. So junior will go to war, the true purpose not withstanding.

Factor III - Mother The female element of human society is ruled by emotion first and logic second. In the battle between logic and imagination, imagination always wins, fantasy prevails, maternal instinct dominates so that the child comes first and the future comes second. A woman with a newborn baby is too starry-eyed to see a wealthy man's cannon fodder or a cheap source of slave labor. A woman must, however, be conditioned to accept the transition to "reality" when it comes, or sooner. As the transition becomes more difficult to manage, the family unit must be carefully disintegrated, and state-controlled public education and state-operated child-care centers must be become more common and legally enforced so as to begin the detachment of the child from the mother and father at an earlier age. Inoculation of behavioral drugs [Ritalin] can speed the transition for the child (mandatory). Caution: A woman's impulsive anger can override her fear. An irate woman's power must never be underestimated, and her power over a pussy-whipped husband must likewise never be underestimated. It got women the vote in 1920.

Factor IV - Junior The emotional pressure for self-preservation during the time of war and the self-serving attitude of the common herd that have an option to avoid the battlefield - if junior can be persuaded to go - is all of the pressure finally necessary to propel Johnny off to war. Their quiet blackmailings of him are the threats: "No sacrifice, no friends; no glory, no girlfriends." Factor V - Sister And what about junior's sister? She is given all the good things of life by her father, and taught to expect the same from her future husband regardless of the price. Factor VI - Cattle Those who will not use their brains are no better off than those who have no brains, and so this mindless school of jelly-fish, father, mother, son, and daughter, become useful beasts of burden or trainers of the same.

RP_Guru · 2015-05-07T18:38:56+00:00

TRP an unsafe space? Absolutely! TRP is totally unsafe if you don't responsibly use an alt account to prevent doxxing.

Funny how the danger comes from the SJW mob outside of this subreddit, rather than from this discourse within. I guess that's just SJW double speak for you.

georgedonnelly · 2015-05-07T18:59:04+00:00

Just signed up here:

http://puerarchy.com/mailing/?p=subscribe&id=1

This mailing list will be used to send out an alert and instructions if Reddit's TheRedPill ever went down (due to admin action or otherwise). Sign up here, your email will be kept anonymous and will not be given away or sold. You probably won't even get any email from us anyway. Only in an emergency.

fap_the_pain_away · 2015-05-07T19:25:14+00:00

"Safe space" = censoring heresy from the liberal faith.

OnlySubsILike · 2015-05-07T21:04:12+00:00

How much safer do you have to be behind your computer screen at home -.-

cariboo_j · 2015-05-08T00:04:34+00:00

Aah shit whenever you hear the words "safe space" you know its gonna be some bullshit SJW censorship.

"Safe space" as long as you accept the politically correct dogma without question.

Also its the fucking internet. You are sitting in your home behind a computer, anonymously. There is zero physical danger. Zero. If you feel "unsafe" reading opposing view points on the internet you are a useless human being and probably not fit to vote.

miss_sogony · 2015-05-08T00:27:36+00:00

Censorship, the final resort of the liberal.

juanqunt · 2015-05-08T00:36:16+00:00

Funny that TRP is the safest place I've found for men to actually discuss their feelings and thoughts without being bullied by feminazis.

LaggyCamper · 2015-05-08T04:21:16+00:00

Sooooo...... Reddit will become tumbler 2?

grewapair · 2015-05-07T16:57:44+00:00

What we should do is voluntarily suspend trp for a week and have all of us flood twoX with our views.

They'll be begging us to come back here!

DowntownSacramento · 2015-05-07T23:31:15+00:00

Cut the fucking hysterics.

TRP is not as important as you assholes make it out to be. Furthermore, the amount of subscribers to the sub is a solid assurance that it won't get banned.

Pretty damn sure admin is referring to pages such as /r/strugglefucking, /r/coontown, /r/girlsfuckingdogs and such.

Goldfulgore · 2015-05-07T20:21:31+00:00

Maybe it has to do with this.

He is calling MRA as a misogyny.

fhghg · 2015-05-07T20:26:55+00:00

Wtf? I can get robbed, raped, and murdered on reddit? Definitely had no idea there were unsafe spaces here. Thanks for the heads up.

hipsterparalegal · 2015-05-07T21:42:16+00:00

For a significant number of young people nowadays, free speech and free expression just aren't important values. That's fine, let them have their fun while they're in power. The worm will eventually turn, and when it does, I'll be there to laugh, point my finger, say "I told you so, you fucking dimwits," and shun them from polite society.

halfnerf · 2015-05-07T23:37:10+00:00

When that happens I quit using reddit. I don't need an echo chamber, I need someone that challenges my ideas and provides me new material.

Beta_Tendencies · 2015-05-07T23:38:29+00:00

I'm new here but honestly, if you guys need to migrate somewhere it's better to be proactive than reactive. If donations are needed I'll drop some money. I haven't had a chance to read or absorb all this yet and I'd be sad if all this knowledge just disappeared. Tell me it's at least archived somewhere?

easyrandomguy · 2015-05-08T04:14:21+00:00

https://github.com/reddit/reddit

good thing reddit is open source. time to create our own reddit...

Rollo-Tomassi · 2015-05-08T17:56:40+00:00

A want for 'safe space' is rooted in the feminine need for assured security. That security can never be assured. Feminized men who's Beta Game it is to identify and appease the feminine in order to be accepted by women don't understand that dynamic.

If they did they would know that women only want security and 'safety' within the perception that their environment is dangerous. Twitter can't do this, Reddit can't do this.

The truth of it is that Reddit admins can create all of the 'safe places' they want and boot all of the subs the women they pander to ask them to boot – those women will still seek out the 'unsafe spaces' that develop in that wake, into which they'll interject their worldview.

This is why Male Spaces are so appealing for feminist justice warriors to force themselves into - they're more exciting than the contrived 'safe spaces' their virtual Beta orbiters create for them.

Safe is boring. Perfect is boring. That's what Reddit admins probably wont consider when they decide to purge the subs.

Women don’t just want to build a better beta, they want to tame the alpha. In fact, the former is just another way they are trying to approach the latter. They want to take an inherently unsafe activity and make it safe. They want to submit to a man without having to submit; they want a man who can tame their feral self. They want him to trip their danger signals. Even better if he is a stranger from a strange land (the manosphere).

They wan’t this all to happen without giving up their freedom. They want to lose control to a string of strangers who have all of the hallmarks of very dangerous men, and they want a promise that this will always end well.

They want to know that this will be safe, without it losing the excitement of it feeling unsafe. They are telling men to build a sort of amusement park where they can ride the roller coaster and experience the fear of falling or crashing, while knowing that just behind the scenes grown ups are actually in charge and are responsible for them safely feeling 'unsafe.'

But they don’t want to be hemmed in. So instead of building an actual amusement park, they want roller coasters to spring up randomly in the same exact circumstances where the real danger they mimic would appear.

They want to be driving their car on the freeway one instant, and the next experience the fear of careening out of control the next. They want to impulsively jump off the edge of the Grand Canyon and have a parachute appear and deploy at the last minute.

And all they ask is your guarantee that all of this will be safe.

primevalist · 2015-05-07T17:41:15+00:00

The world is getting tighter and tighter, with more and more censorship and control over the masses. First they will shut us down on their sites, then they will go after our sites. It's only a matter of time.

NYCMusicMarathon · 2015-05-07T18:44:08+00:00

SJWs trying to knock out the free speech of this site.

Because the r/TRP speaks mostly the truth.

And

SJWs are afraid of truth,
they believe their emotions come before the Red Pill's power to communicate.

Reddit History
this happened to r/ents which became r/trees.

Be Vigilant,
I believe Good triumphs over evil. I think Social Justice Warriors are evil.
And are relentless opponents.

Ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall set you free.
John 8:32

manwhowouldbeking · 2015-05-07T18:03:40+00:00

Another step forward to turn reddit into tumblr.

bsutansalt · 2015-05-07T18:47:13+00:00

Of course my response to that line of thinking is "Great, then trp isn't going anywhere as it's a "safe space" for men and women who are a part of our community to speak their mind".

Statecensor · 2015-05-07T21:27:01+00:00

SJW activists make complete and total sense if you understand how they think. They do not want critical thought or intelligent debate. They exist only in "safe spaces" that allow them to hide from critical thought and discourse. If you make the mistake of trying to have a conversation with one and you do not agree with them on every single point then your "problematic". The word problematic is sorta like the catch all term that Scientology uses to describe suppressive person or maybe a better example would be enemy of the state from the old soviet days.

Some of you guys seem to run into problems because you hear SJWs talk about having a debate and a conversation so you believe they are sincere when they already had a conversation in their little committee in a safe space and decided on the facts before the debate and anyone who disagrees is "problematic" and their only interest is engaging in demagoguery and attacking you.

ItsCold_ItsCold · 2015-05-07T22:04:55+00:00

Any place we could migrate to? Thanks in advance.

no_face · 2015-05-07T22:44:52+00:00

reddit is open source. We can simply host it ourselves -- a one subreddit site -- easily.... if each of us donates a dollar, that should take care of hosting for a thousand years

Mikesapien · 2015-05-07T23:51:43+00:00

Here is some explication on the "safe space" phenomenon. No, it's not what it sounds like to any sane or normal person - you know, somewhere protected from risks or hazards. It's really leftist code for censor-happy echo-chamber.

I made the mistake of earning a lib arts degree, and in my nine semesters at college, we started to hear "safe space" repeated like a mantra. "Let's make it a safe space" began to adorn bumper stickers, posters, even syllabi.

It doesn't mean a "space" that's actually "safe" - it means don't take my class, or, don't post on my forum, or, don't attend my club, or, don't speak at my uni. You get the idea.

And in a classic example of extremism becoming a parody of itself, some took "safe space" a bit... literally. That's right, grown-ass adults (whom the state considers old enough to gamble, smoke, drive, vote, attend school, pay taxes, buy and use firearms, buy and use substances) with rooms for "trauma" and "stress" that come "equipped with cookies, coloring books, bubbles, Play-Doh, calming music, pillows, blankets and a video of frolicking puppies." And to bury the irony needle a bit further, I'll just point out that these are the exact same PC and SJW morons, by the way, that whine about the infantilization of women.

Here's a protip: if you legitimately think you can get PTSD from lectures, or assignments, or twitter, then you've probably never seen any trauma of any kind at any point.

So yes, TRP, we should probably take this "safe space" talk seriously. Never mind that it's infinitely naive (an asteroid could strike the Earth and kill every last one of us with no warning at any moment); they're angling for political power, and with Orwellian language like "safe space," they're likely to get it.

TheSliceman · 2015-05-08T00:52:19+00:00

Its good that we have an EVAC plan, but what we really need is a decentralized reddit.

A reddit that cant be censored by anyone. We have the technology.

roxtafari · 2015-05-08T01:55:47+00:00

It's a pretty funny coincidence that the Reddit Admins also announced the return of the r/Beta program on the same day.

Kirkayak · 2015-05-08T02:55:34+00:00

I hold that Voltaire was saying something important when he mentioned his willingness to die for someone's right to say something he disagreed with.

redpillcynic · 2015-05-08T05:02:00+00:00

OK, guys. Fuck Reddit. Why don't we just start our own site? Fuck reddit and the feel good SJWs. fuck the Shadowbans. Fuck everything.

Lets build a site. A brand new site. A new eden of sorts. I have background in web development. I'm sure many of you bros have related skills too. Anyone interested?

cashmoney_x · 2015-05-08T12:29:51+00:00

Since when does discourse need to be 'safe?'

It should be free and stimulating. Not fucking safe.

PaintAndPlastic · 2015-05-08T12:57:54+00:00

A safe space? The space isn't exactly safe for those whose opinions run contrary to what these reddit admins deem "the norm".

mickeymouseoutfit · 2015-05-09T01:53:45+00:00

It's like when the police officer says, "I smelled marijuana."

No disrespect to the officers that genuinely do smell marijuana at a stop. I'm sure it happens a lot. But far too many officers have dragged out that tired old device when looking for an excuse to illegally search someone's vehicle (probably because sense of smell doesn't register on that dashboard cam).

Same goes for the phrase "zero tolerance." I don't think I need to go into that one.

"Safe space" is the same kind of shit. If I hear the phrase, "I smelled marijuana," "zero tolerance," or "safe space" I reflexively cringe. My butt clenches up a tad more, I start looking around, and I'm pretty much waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Like "zero tolerance," or the marijuana thing, "safe space" is one of those phrases that, when you hear it, it means somebody's about to pull some dirty, nefarious shit.

RedPill115 · 2015-05-09T21:16:05+00:00

There is a problem for SJW's and feminists online.

Used to be, almost everyone always agreed with them. Anyone saying anything negative about women at all was downvoted and lots of people wanted to argue with them.

But in the last 6 months or so, things have turned around a bit. Some subs (like /r/videos) have become hostile to feminist one sided manipulation. In subs like /r/news you can find commenters pointing holes in the "well a woman is involved so she must be innocent" viewpoint - and getting upvoted.

In some places it's almost achieved equality - where women are critisized as much as men are.

So naturally, this is horrifying to SJW's. It seems like they're freaking out, and trying to silence anyone having opinions other than their's.

Here's the thing - this doesn't happen simply because of men, as much as I wish it did. This happens also because women got fed up with feminists pressuring them and pushing them around. They've gotten tired of feminists pressuring them to always be victims, and all the other crap feminists try to use to paint women into a corner with.

TheRealMewt · 2015-05-07T17:03:12+00:00

Let's not ignore the possibility that the admin may not be utilizing SJW code words when he says "safe space". You guys need to remember that the Reddit hive mind is more than capable of ruining people's lives (ie when Reddit detectives wrongly identified the wrong guy in the Boston Marathon bombings) and doxxed the hell out of him. I haven't seen Reddit act that extreme in a good while now, but all a person has to do these days is to post an unpopular opinion and be willing to defend it tooth and nail to wind up on subs like /r/bestof, /r/shitredditsays, or /r/subredditdrama to encourage their subscribers to whip out the pitchforks and torches and give Mr(s) Unpopular Opinion a ride on the negative karma train... and that's if they're fortunate enough to not have their personal information broadcasted. Hell, it's why TRP advises its users to create alternate accounts if they even do as much as post on another subreddit!

Maybe /u/kickme444's idea of safe space is fostering an environment to where redditors aren't risking their necks just for wanting to participate on the site without getting sucked into the mob. Of course, I'll believe it when I see it, but don't you think if Reddit wanted to shut this place down they would've done so already?

BomptonBrotha88 · 2015-05-07T18:16:01+00:00

If posting comments on reddit doesn't invite IRL violence or attacks against you than I would say it's safe enough, but I'm not a sissy or a fat bipolar girl. Shame on people who voluntarily read comments or posts just to be offended by them and then agitate for mods and admins to become nannies and make sure no one uses nono words or expresses naughty thoughts.

RickJamesBond · 2015-05-07T18:38:06+00:00

I'm always confused by the whole safe space thing. This is a website. It can't hurt you. How could it possibly be unsafe?

ChadThundercockII · 2015-05-07T19:18:22+00:00

First of all, this admin is down voted every time he comments. He must be an asshole. Second, we should archive the best post here or copy then into the website.

balancespec2 · 2015-05-07T19:38:47+00:00

Where is the evidence he is referring to red pill?

Maybe he's referring to the racism

wtf_is_taken · 2015-05-07T20:02:51+00:00

I don't think they would shut this down. I think this will be fine.

deville05 · 2015-05-07T20:09:45+00:00

Its the internet for god sakes! Anonymous people writing and reading shit on a screen. How much safer does one needs to be?!

illimaybeois · 2015-05-07T20:10:10+00:00

Ya but lets let /r/Askmen remain despite the fact that they have crooked mods who are also very racist and shut down almost any and every discussion. Lets take out this valuable sub and let a trash bin like /r/Askmen remain.

2015-05-07T20:17:29+00:00

First they want safe spaces for womens.

Then all the spaces must be safe spaces for womens.

Fascism.

knytrix · 2015-05-07T20:30:48+00:00

I'm already banned from half the front page anyway.

Squabbles123 · 2015-05-07T20:57:38+00:00

Total anonymity isn't safe enough?

Transmigratory · 2015-05-07T21:52:05+00:00

Will a puerarchy forum be up and running if this place shuts down?

drallcom3 · 2015-05-07T21:54:56+00:00

It would be a smart move to keep us here, just from an analytics point of view. We offer so many rant topics for the SWJs, the retention we provide must be insane. Safe, emotionless discussions won't keep the SWJs around.

Big_ol_Bro · 2015-05-07T22:27:30+00:00

I would hate to think a resource so helpful to so many would be deleted just to make sjw's feel better

Ovadox · 2015-05-07T22:35:10+00:00

A website with some rough edges is indeed a place where the careless or hypersensitive will get their fee fees hurt. However, the rough edges are what make it fun and exciting and interesting. Reddit has some very dark/weird corners and I like that I may occasionally see or read something that makes me say, "Well, that's enough internet for today." If they go ahead and start smoothing those edges it will make this place safe and boring. It may persist for awhile but all the cool, interesting, and criminally insane people will have left to make the new places that pop up what Reddit used to be.

iliketurtlesdurr · 2015-05-07T22:45:05+00:00

TRP and mensrights has way more subscribers than even /r/Feminism . I was surprised but it's true. I am not worried that we're going to get shut down.

NorthMike · 2015-05-07T22:51:04+00:00

If I wanted a "safe space" where glass people can shine each other without risk of breakage I could find one on my own. Its called Facebook. I use reddit specifically because anyone can say anything, and will happily move on to any site that picks up the slack should reddit decide to put its own head up its ass. Maybe this can lead to an opportunity? I wonder how hard it would be to get code similar to Reddit and start my own social media site and then spin it into a non profit that serves the public and has bylaws forbidding all forms of censorship, and is hosted in a way such as to prevent governments from interfering? As a non profit it could be setup to prevent its own staff or outsiders from messing with it. Make it an anonymously own series of related domains in preparation of attacks by authorities etc... *thinking How to make a place for opinions where anyone can say anything anonymously and there is no recourse for any individual or organization whatsoever. Just a site full of bullshit, like Reddit, but without any sociopaths in charge with fancy titles like CEO, and an over hatred towards any form of social justice manipulations. Im talking a fuck your own ass if you don't like it anything goes you cant catch me website hosted under a mountain of encryption in a place that is hostile to foreign requests to involve itself in Internet anything.

pelag1us · 2015-05-07T23:26:17+00:00

Too bad nothing has been posted in puerarchy.com in like idk 3 years?

save_the_rocks · 2015-05-07T23:27:57+00:00

The alternate website should have a backup forum ready to go. Right now I never go past the homepage since it is so different than this subreddit. It's almost unrecognizable.

Also a TRP.net or something domain might be helpful.

trpbox · 2015-05-08T00:02:28+00:00

If /r/theredpill does get shut down, will puerarchy provide a similar forum for discussion? Right now I can't find anything like that on the page...

MgFeSi · 2015-05-08T00:13:27+00:00

I'm missing something. Why does everyone think this is directed at TRP?

RP_Vergil · 2015-05-08T00:26:47+00:00

It is always easy to extinguish an idea before allowing it to fully bloom.

That's the kind of freedom they try to achieve in killing anything which goes against their belief.

welderblyad · 2015-05-08T01:03:01+00:00

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slai47 · 2015-05-08T01:17:28+00:00

For me, I'm not worried about this group. If they ban this and not some other subs then a lot of people will be in uproar. It would be an incredible dick move. Also, what the fuck as TRP done compared to so many other subs?

Aiadon · 2015-05-08T01:33:57+00:00

Maybe they'll ban SJW subreddits for being dangerous to users who want to have a peaceful conversation.

disniggatrollin · 2015-05-08T01:39:24+00:00

Is there a forum or discussion space on purearchy? There doesn't seem to be.

RP_Vergil · 2015-05-08T01:50:47+00:00

Just scan something.

This also could be one of the reason?

https://archive.is/v5S0C

Jokoran · 2015-05-08T04:13:00+00:00

Nothing's going to happen, man. This sub is pretty tame all things considered.

40_SixandTwo · 2015-05-08T04:53:47+00:00

It's gonna suck, and as with the examples of other horrid subreddits that exist here, I'd think that it'd be complete horse shit that TRP is shut down, but at the end of the day I'm really not surprised if it does come to that point.

If we look who populates Reddit as a whole, it's run by SJWs and their allies who rule via mob mentality. If it does happen that TRP gets shut down, we just have to keep on going. That's it, I'm sure we've got plenty of resources in our hands, we'll be fine.

plenkton · 2015-05-08T05:07:55+00:00

TRP currently is constructive b/c our current community is constructive and upvotes constructive posts.

Our detractors can sabotage our sub by upvoting posts not in TRP spirit, and banning the agitators will also ban neutral parties (since their posts may be similar), and neutral parties who are banned will view us as hating dissenting opinion(which is not TRP style).

Ibex3D · 2015-05-08T05:25:28+00:00

Most of reddit is shit. r/science, r/space, r/finance, r/theredpill, r/fitness and r/keto are the only reddits I use cause they're not about bullshit. Theyre about results. It'll be a shame to see one of the very few useful and intellectual subreddits go into extinction. Probably gonna be replaced with rage comics or whatever the fuck theyre into now.

AntixD · 2015-05-08T05:34:53+00:00

A offsite forum should be made

Deresetese · 2015-05-08T12:24:21+00:00

[...]there are people/communities [...] that do not create a safe space to encourage participation.

This actually does apply to TRP, it's not a "safe place" for participation. Not every standpoint is welcomed here, and people without understanding have no right to post here.
Not every opinion is equal and ignorance is not an excuse, and can get you banned.

This goes against what reddit is supposed to be, a platform for open discussion of all kinds, with all kinds of people.
The original direction post for TRP states that this is not a democracy.
And yes, this does not fit into reddit's perspective but neither does it break any rules.

If the people running reddit decide to ban TRP, it's their right to do so.
Keep in mind that we're not a movement, we don't fight for men's rights and we don't aim to change the world. We don't even organise.
We just share ideas and use the experience and insight of others to improve ourselves.
And for that, we don't need reddit.

manicmojo · 2015-05-08T15:04:54+00:00

If TRP is going to go down. Can we make an copy of it, even an archive. We must save what we have done!

NikoMyshkin · 2015-05-08T16:43:54+00:00

thank you for posting this. it is very, very important to have a backup for the inevitable tanser of TRP from reddit to a place where it is actually safe (pun intended).

Redpillc0re · 2015-05-08T17:02:21+00:00

I would actually advise that you leave now. Don't wait until you have been brought to the spotlight and the community is destroyed overnight. There is plenty of forum software out there. TRP does not even function like the rest of reddit (instant 3 word replies and memes), so its going to be an easy transition. I would suggest you pick a server outside the US too. If you need technical info with the setup or something more, i'd be glad to help (but i can't moderate).

Reddit has no incentive to drop TRP, it provides too much entertainment to its social warrior nation that they feed from.

systemshock869 · 2015-05-08T20:47:33+00:00

We are working on changes to make reddit a safer space for discourse.

Wouldn't censoring discourse technically make it an unsafe place for discourse? Get your shit together SJWs.

joshsoowong · 2015-05-10T16:24:20+00:00

Please do not shut down this sub. I have learned so much from reading upon the vast posts and information contributed by these great individuals. I wish to continue to grow and learn from this sub. Please do not take this sub down.

This is a community. The mods are great people who do a great job facilitating this sub. Stand strong. Hold frame. And continue to grow.

CheesyWeiner · 2015-05-07T23:17:07+00:00

I've noticed a huge change in the comments on here since I first started looking at it.

Originally I always saw so many comments that were so filled with hatred and disrespect for women. It seemed to me that the userbase was just a bunch of 14 year olds that were too afraid to even talk to a woman pretending to be hot shit and circlejerking made up stories and theories with other 14 year olds.

In the past few months though (probably due to the banhammer that happened) I think it's really turned around. Most comments are more grounded in reality than just pure circlejerked theories and focus on being the man that women want rather than the man they think they want.

I have personally taken ideas from this sub and applied them to my life and have seen a great improvement. I improved my body and projected more confidence. I deal with problems rather than avoiding them because they make me uncomfortable. As a result I have better relationships with everyone in every way. I'm much happier and healthier now than I even have been in my life and I have TRP to thank for it.

Anyone who sees that as being wrong is an idiot.

RP has even taught me to be a better person to women.

I was with this girl and we were making out. She stopped and told me that we shouldn't be doing it because she wasn't one of those girls. I did exactly what RP taught me to do and said "that's fine, we'll do exactly what you want to do. If you want me to roll over and just go to sleep right now I'll even do that" (some stuff about "what type of girl?" before that just to mess with her) and stopped all sexual stuff. Old me would have tried to convince her otherwise, say that we could just keep making out, or try to get her to give me a blowjob instead. Nope, she said stop so I full stopped. She was completely in control of anything from that point on. After a min or 2 she started it back up again only to stop again for the same reason so I shut down again as she said she wanted. This happened a couple of times and eventually she got on top of me and we had sex.

I never once pressured her to do anything when she said no. She had complete control over her body and I respected that. I'd like to see a SJW tell me why what I did as taught to me by TRP was wrong.

ucfgavin · 2015-05-08T02:34:22+00:00

I actually really hope that they go full 100% hardcore at this. I would love to see Reddit go bye bye

JamesK1973 · 2015-05-08T03:26:11+00:00

If TRP goes, I will continue the good fight. I will continue to read and comment on other subs and push TRP principles.

You can't stop the signal.

Willravel · 2015-05-07T19:32:06+00:00

Over the past few months there has been an increasing amount of censorship (just look at the CEO lawsuit shit) and shadowbans resulting from it.

People seem to be under the mistaken opinion that the concept of freedom of expression means they can say anything anywhere at any time without consequences. Freedom of speech as a concept exists to prevent the US government from actively preventing citizens from expressing their viewpoints and does not extend to any private space, including Reddit.

It seems like a lot of people don't seem to understand the concept of censorship. Not to get all libertarian on you, but only the government can actually censor because only the government can codify stopping expression into law which can be enforced by the criminal justice system. If Reddit decided to shut down /r/CoonTown tomorrow, that would not be an instance of censorship because those racist assholes would still be allowed to talk freely about their racist asshole opinions, just on one less private space. Free speech does not mean you have the right to share your opinion anywhere and under any context. There's no such thing as a right to be heard. If I walk into a church and interrupt a service to talk about how their beliefs are nonsense, they have every right in the world to call the police and make me leave, and that's not censorship. Private spaces are allowed to make their own rules about what is or isn't allowed, and can enforce those rules. That's not censorship.

If TRP was shut down tomorrow, that certainly would piss off a lot of people, but that would not be an example of censorship. You don't have the right to violate the rules of a private space because you want to say or do something which violates the rules of said space.

I just did a quick check of TRP's subreddit rules. If I violate any of those rules with this comment (which I suppose could be possible based on a certain interpretation of those rules), and my comment is removed, that would not be censorship. It would be me violating the rules of this space based on the judgment of those who enforce the rules, and an execution of the enforcement of those rules. I would be incorrect if I fired back that the mods here were guilty of censorship, because words have meanings and that's not what censorship means.

DownvotesCatposts · 2015-05-08T02:51:12+00:00

They seem to forget that you must VOLUNTARILY SUBSCRIBE to this sub to see its material. How terribly inconvenient.

watersign · 2015-05-07T23:17:28+00:00

the problem is, they're seeing that many members of TRP are also members of /r/CoonTown and other racist/conspiracy subs. There is also a large element of anti-antisemitism that is contributing to this.

Title	"We are working on changes to make reddit a safer space for discourse."
Author	Garl_Vinland
Upvotes	911
Comments	407
Date	May 7, 2015 3:41 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/356p3y/we_are_working_on_changes_to_make_reddit_a_safer/
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