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[–]20Humble5050 788 points789 points790 points 4 years ago (83 children) | Copy Link
As an ugly man, for every girl like you that wants to be approached more, there are ten who would label me a creep for doing a perfectly innocent approach and potentially ruin my social reputation.
[–]One-Leg7314 143 points144 points145 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Then if you get the number you get exited. Then you text and she never replies 😂 fuck man
[–]Lazy_Waltzz 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Duuude same thing happened to me but she took 2 days to reply to me, mean while i was thinking what the hell did i do wrong lol
[–]20Humble5050 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The only thing you did wrong was being born under six feet tall and without a 7/10 or above face.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup that’s the moment it all goes down hill 🤣
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
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[–]One-Leg7314 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I mean that’s kinda weird “hey you want my number” 😂 you can just call her on the spot and it will save ur number on her phone
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[–]One-Leg7314 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I mean whenever I get someone’s number they always call to make sure it’s correct
[–]sarthak063 195 points196 points197 points 4 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
Happened to me.
Now I can't look at girls. I am always Scared. It fucked up my confidence too. When I am around women I am always thinking what if i do something wrong. I am always stuttering when I talk to them. I always look down and I avoid eye contact. Shit is scary lol
[–]no_please 56 points57 points58 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
You need to work on being confident enough to just talk to a person without stuttering or avoiding eye contact before anything else imo.
There is NOTHING wrong with looking at a woman in the eyes while having a very casual conversation with them. Anyone that makes you feel bad for that is a pretty nasty bitch that you should look down on honestly.
[–]papiwoldz 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You shouldnt look down on anyone. Just realize bitches aint shit, why should you even consider their opinion??? If someone fucked your "social status" and it's being collectively enforced just realize the source or the origin of the disrespect is invalid, and that everyone who is following the lead of the others is motivated by fear, enslaved to their instincts, and cannot be trusted. Just learn from life, don't grow bitter and look down on people no matter how wrong they do you.
YOUR MOTIVATION IS NOT OTHERS MEDIOCRITY ITS YOUR OWN GREATNESS. READ THAT AGAIN
Peace nerds
[–]sarthak063 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Thanks sir
I am trying to figure out.
[–]elvissayshi 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah! All you need is confidence. Come on you creep, go get some confidence. Oh, ok. Where do they sell it?
[–]MissionAd9309 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Awh babe don’t feel that way .. I’m sorry one girl f’d it up for the rest ! I’m sure you’re a great person
[–]CanJohnEven 62 points63 points64 points 4 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
Just gonna throw this out there but most girls aren’t gonna publicly shame you unless you’re being completely inappropriate. Social reputation really means nothing when you realize that most people really don’t care about you like that and I wish I understood that sooner. Anyways, if a girl ruins your reputation and you’re being a “normal” person with an innocent approach then you were better off without them anyways. This is me speaking as that guy that had his reputation “ruined” during college. Shit sucks but life goes on might as well make the most out of it. (The pain of rejection never actually stings as bad as you think it’ll be once you stop caring so much about the outcome)
[–]elvissayshi 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
Even the most ham-handed approach that gets shut down is worth a few laughs after some time has passed. However, a walk away because you were afraid to even speak is never funny no matter how long time passes. And it sticks with you forever. you think it's no big deal, but each one is another opportunity that will never occur again and there's only so many.
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[–]Lotus_82 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
You can avoid rejection entirely if you get good at reading body language. Since my teenage years I’ve been gifted at reading body language and understanding nonverbal cues and hints and because of that I’ve never gotten rejected when asking a girl for her phone number, asking a woman out on a date or leaning in for a kiss.
When I talk to someone I know how they feel about me and how the things I’m saying are affecting them in real time.
This skill is very valuable in all interpersonal relationships and in business negotiations. 90% of all communication is non verbal, so it’s pretty important to know how to “read” it.
[–]aquariuskitty_ -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Wait…you’re mad that women walk away from you to afraid to speak? Yea bc that’s weird and it’s not my job to baby the strange man who can’t speak to me bc I’m an attractive woman. Work on your confidence and try treating women as human beings and not intimidating sex objects. Like why would I talk to someone who can’t event speak to me?? Its infuriating.
[–]20Humble5050 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did he say he was nervous? It's entirely likely that he approached confidently or was at least able to make normal conversation and the girl still walked out wordlessly like he was a threat. I've had it happen before, and I've been called a creep by a girl I wasn't even trying to hit on.
[–]20Humble5050 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Anyways, if a girl ruins your reputation and you’re being a “normal” person with an innocent approach then you were better off without them anyways.
Her word against mine in the MeToo era. Who's going to fucking win? I still approach, but I don't do it a lot because I feel like I'm putting everything on the line, and unlike a year ago, I am no longer badly depressed and now have things at stake. Rejection isn't what hurts; what hurts is when she thinks, for some reason, that rejecting me isn't good enough and she needs to lay down the law to protect herself, because she assumes I will be persistent. These assumptions have nothing to do with my actual behavior and are just being made because I'm ugly.
[–]kbecel -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Stop being so ego invested. MeToo is just your ego protecting you from getting hurt from rejection. Ask yourself, what sets you apart from other/most guys?
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this x1000000
[–]letmereaddamnit 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
My dude weights, beard, style. It might not be much but it's all we've got.
[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well they’re dumb!
[–]20Humble5050 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, like insulting them in front of everybody will somehow salvage my reputation...
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So true
[–]BoredRedhead24 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My favorite is the “I’d love you if you were taller!”. That one genuinely hurt first time I got told that.
[–]Dakessian 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
just simply introduce yourself and say hi to a girl you find attractive, thats it. If the girl ignores you or just nods with no words, that’s on her man.
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[–]BL00DINMYEYES 245 points246 points247 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
The average guy wont make a move until he’s 100% sure that you’re interested in him due to fear of failure, being uncomfortable, and turning an interaction awkward. Make it obvious, flirt a little bit. Watch some videos on signs a girl likes you/ iOi’s and hope he catches on to those.
[–]sarthak063 101 points102 points103 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
This.
I am so uncomfortable to even look at a girl. I don't want to come as a creepy guy. It has become a problem now:(
[–]RpM_Feuerrm 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel this :(
[–]Alex_O7 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man, you are not creepy if you look at girls. I would say also that after a while you will it totally normal as you probably watch other person.
If you want a suggestion go outside alone to make a walk wherever you may like and force yourself to have your head straight up, never watch your feed or the ground underneath you. Then look a people, men women, whatever, and my assumptions about their names and life.
This simple trick would help you to think about other like humans, with same struggles as you and so you will find no more awkward to look at someone.
[–]Emilio222 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Work on yourself mate. You shouldn't be focusing on game if you lack the social skills to function with girls. 2-3 years I always needed a reason to talk to girls, especially strangers, and although I usually don't talk much with strangers now, but I spark up a conversation every now and then if I feel like it. Feel like not being on here improved me the most, because you start to analyze shit and become less honest, of course depending on what you're looking at. If there's a list of Bullets I'd give u, it's talk with enthusiasm og at least some kind of energy and confidence when you're talking, work on pleasant, but good eye contact, don't say shameful things about yourself (I've done this too much back then), don't focus on sexual stuff, just enjoy conversations for what they are, stuff's gonna come naturally as long as you're honest. Doesn't mean you shouldn't give her a nice compliment, but talk with honesty, don't hide your intentions. Take all this with a grain of salt since I just turned 18 and still virgin, but the social gains I've made the past 2 years are crazy. so virginity is gone in a few months I think. Can't really compare myself with me 3 years ago.
People call me pretty extroverted.. to me that's huge, compared to me being kinda shy to girls and introverted 3 years ago. I honestly never was introverted I think, but I was lacking all the confidence I have today.
Hope any of this has some worth to u:)
[–]sarthak063 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Hello u/Emilio222 thanks for this comment it's really helpful.
I am still like that how you was when you were 15-16 I am still trying to figure out shit. One other reason is that I have never been with girls. I used to study in a boys school. One of the reason I have social anxiety. This sub motivates me to do stuff. I don't tell this to anyone though. Cause all my coworkers are in a relationship. These kind of talks are always a turn off. People think that you want self pity that's I avoid it. Thanks again.
[–]BluePsychosisDude2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, talking to a lot of people gets you out of your shell and well-connected. I also find that focusing on pickup makes a person kind of weird, and like a robot looking for specific key-phrases to turn on a woman. I'd prefer to just make conversation and see where it goes, no expectations, just talking to a woman and if I found her attractive then trying to escalate, but no reason you can't just have a conversation with an attractive woman either, they are still people with thoughts and opinions, no big expectations is key.
[–]Emilio222 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
WORD. You shouldn't make sex your intent at all. Just conversate with people, as if they have something valuable to say. Maybe you'll learn a thing or two!
[–]BluePsychosisDude2 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Maybe if a guy is younger and thirstier and trying to show his friends what a stud is, then sex with a random chick is super important, but for me I just want to find a pretty, positive woman to share a life with, who enjoys good sex and would be a good mother. So a little different than just talking to every human with a vagina trying to put my penis in it lol
[–]Emilio222 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's a healthy point of view imo. Personally I'm 18 and virgin, so just tryna get my dick wet rn, although I much rather find a funny, pretty and smart girl I can talk for hours with, about totally useless things. A friend of mine who has some experience and is now with his girl for like a year told me, I just gotta get my dick wet once, just have sex once, to understand it and to just get over this mental boundary, so that when I get a girl I'll at least have some confidence in it and also be more comfortable focusing on that both are having a good time..
Message became a bit clustered, but I hope you get my point.
[–]Lotus_82 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You’re supposed to look long enough to exchange a look and then you read her body language and see if she feels like you approaching her and talking to her.
even then it's not 100% sure as the reason for flirting isn't always because she likes you. and she will still shoot you down.
[+][deleted] -28 points-27 points-26 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I’m beautiful and don’t need lessons on how to flirt. But I’m new in town and don’t know a soul. It’s not that simple.
[–]Pure_Doctor_2935 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your responses so far have been indicative of your situation
[–]CreeknAndKraken 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Maybe you don’t get approached because you’re a narcissist
[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why because I say I’m beautiful? I am. There is nothing narcissistic about that. My whole life has been taking care of others and putting my children first. Takes one to know one hon!
[–]CreeknAndKraken 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A beautiful person doesn’t need to announce to the world how beautiful they are.
[–]PopJaded151 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How long have you been in town? If it's only been a few days or weeks, you won't meet someone right away. Life isn't like in movies, where the plot makes sure everything happens just because it needs to. Maybe try some hobbies. Join a gym, or some kind of class or activity where you'll ideally meet people with similar interests.
Hahha thank you for stating the obvious. But as this thread clearly shows none of that matters because men don’t want to approach women!!!!!
[–][deleted] 479 points480 points481 points 4 years ago (92 children) | Copy Link
Approach us then!!!!
[–][deleted] 211 points212 points213 points 4 years ago (69 children) | Copy Link
I do. A lot. They want me to do everything. I’m not interested in a man who can’t do some of the work.
[–]Loki25HMC 169 points170 points171 points 4 years ago (45 children) | Copy Link
Keep it up! Thanks for being one of the few who approach guys.
[–][deleted] 73 points74 points75 points 4 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link
Thanks
[–]Far-Difference6591 88 points89 points90 points 4 years ago (38 children) | Copy Link
It's very True. Most guys Love it when a gal approaches. Ladies, it's flattering because it hardly ever happens, men like feeling chosen, and that bit of aggression and confidence is super sexy And No, we do NOT think it makes you easy, we do NOT think it means you are for da streets, easy. We know one had Nothing to do w the other.
Thank you for being bold. Hopefully you find a good guy soon. You sound like a catch.
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link
I gotta ask the guy out. Make all the plans. Do all the driving. Make the conversation flow (they tend to only talk about themselves.) and then make sure HE feels good the whole time? Jesus Christ.
[–]EconomicsPrudent 59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who tf are you going on dates with? May have to rethink who you approach?
[–]brabus4 123 points124 points125 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Welcome to what 99 percent of men feel like while dating.
[–]LandscapeClear1630 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This right here!
[–]Oriential-amg77 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When your practically waiting for her to have an opinion or talking topic 😂
[–]TheOffice_Account 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lmao, welcome to the world of most guys!!
[–]Affrodo 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ya this is what it's like for dudes you're preaching to the choir lmfao
[–]skinisblackmetallic 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Who are these dipshits you’re asking out.
[–]Theory_Agile 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chads bro, only chads, she wants the guys with optionsz thats why they arent fucking with her
[–]Far-Difference6591 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
HAAA. Yeah .that's Waaaaay to much. I wish I knew how to reach guts abtdatinf etiquette. My guess? Is we talk about ourselves sooo much, because we are nervous, really really like you, so we are competing w mrn that aren't there, over selling themselves to you
We All want a hot woman, but aren't always built to deal with the things that come with it.
Your a beautiful girl , your found to get hit on. So what, my job is to only care- react if, when you feel disrespected or not safe. Being jealous is silly. I have to let you Police that, what you do and don't allow. Ideally. You will shut that sht down. If not? I have a decision to make in if that's what I want . But menacing women w jealous stupidity Is silly
Your a beautiful girl..I have to compete to keep you. I can't get fat, lazy, complacent..in no aspect of my life .. Because she has options.. coming at you .to replace me ..daily..Daily. that goes w the territory.
So, I level up and always work at being the best version of myself...or .I lose you w immature, jealous bullshit.
You seem really cool, nice..guys don't always fully appreciate how difficult it is for a woman to be beautiful, and still a nice, good, non manipulative person. Somehow, you are navigating that nicely Kudos to you for being a good, worthwhile human being..that happens to be a gorgeous woman.
Good luck to you and your search for a good guy Be safe our there.
[–]FlyingKite1234 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And when you start dating them, you're gonna have to wipe their asses after they shit too.
Sounds about right!
[+]kbecel -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
You are right. Guys nowadays are just pussies. It's like you're with your girlfriends and not a real man, right?
That's why I don't like girls approaching me. And that's why so many guys would like to be approached nowadays
[–]The_frijolero 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The reason men don't approach women as much as in the past is because we grew up with stories about women throwing rape allegations for no reason.
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
I just refuse to do all the work. I would have stayed married to my chauvinist ex husband If that sounded appealing.
[–]elvissayshi 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The shooting range is limiting as a hunting ground. Irony intended.
[–]noobiz3 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Welcome to the world of men. Perhaps have more compassion moving forward?
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Of course. Put it on us Women to soften the blow of life for men. Where is our soft landing? Oh that’s right. We don’t get one.
[–]realhero83 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
👍😂 so refreshing to hear from someone normal.
[–]jimbo9971 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I try to approach you women all the time but you keep running away? Do you need clothes when doing this?
[–]mrpodo 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You need to at least be wearing socks you savage
[–]jimbo9971 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I usually just wear crocs
[–]LandscapeClear1630 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
HOW DARE YOU???
[–]jimbo9971 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FINE ILL WEAR SOCKS ASWELL
Well I can understand that frustration its what I usually experience as well so I throw you a paddle since we are in the same boat
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Submissives have exited the channel
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol
[–]tiempo90 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Does anyone else NEVER get approached?
Or is that the norm for men. I think it's the norm.
[–]merchant_of_mirrors 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's happened to me a couple times, but definitely isn't common
[–]mrpodo 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY AHHHH IM TOO NERVOUS
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do what Adele does. “Hello.”
[–]mrpodo 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I need to listen to adeles advice
[–]thefestivalfilmmaker -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s innate psychology for women to seek a man to lead interactions. We should be the leader.
[–]Hot_Role9647 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m gonna be honest, you have to change your strategy or you’re not going to be happy with someone, Historically speaking women made the first move, in the 30s it was usually by dropping a handkerchief for a man to pick up and then say did you drop this then boom a conversation happens
If you want a high value man, you have to play by high-value men’s rules, otherwise it’s just not happening.
[–]AwkwarkPeNGuiN 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
what kind of unicorn are you and where do I find one.
Thank you.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m right here. :)
Aiight. DM me yer #.
[–]Hot_Role9647 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
And if you want to be approached, that’s your fault for not telling other girls that they’re dumb that their ideas are bad when they started speaking badly about men, women have lost respect for men to such a large degree on such a large scale that they’ve fucked the social dynamics for everyone, men see and experience the worst of female behavior (the male equivalent being unrighteous violence, where as conversely it’s a good thing to defend yourself and others) on a very constant basis, many of you (not all, don’t put words in my mouth, i can already feel it coming) have developed narcissistic traits, if not full blown narcissistic personality disorder (if you can’t accept that you’re partially to blame for everything that happens to you at the least after you leave the nest, that there are actions you could have taken or not taken to avoid whatever circumstances you may have found yourself in, that’s narcissism, it’s a coping mechanism, not always a terrible thing, however when it creeps into the rest of your life it becomes a condition as that mechanistic action has now integrated itself into your personality overall. Why am I talking about this? It’s because it is the fault of passerby’s who do nothing despite seeing a crime happening in front of them that that was allowed to occur a moment longer than it could have. Narcissism produces narcissistic reactions in those interacting with the narcissistic person. Over a long enough time frame, those people will become like the narcissist that they’ve been interacting with. A communicable mental ill if you will. And now bring in the social dynamics of men and women and boom you have the disaster that you see before you now, it’s not them, it’s you (not literally you). pause tho, Did you notice that, that was a subconscious reaction where in I felt I had to step on egg shells to get my point across without being called a name or being otherwise treated badly. To continue, women’s behavior has turned men off. Just like your biology is your biology and no matter what men do they can’t change it, the reverse is true. And how men are built is they need something to aim at or they don’t do anything. There’s a reason Peter Pan syndrome is so common. Why would you want to progress and be independent if the major motivating driver for that has been completely removed from the equation. Men are more romantic by nature. They crave connection. If everything you have ever experienced and everything you see, all the uploads of videos focusing on bad female behavior; why would you want to do anything. If you can’t understand that frame, it’s because you’re not a guy, there are plenty of things about female psychology that I’m not gonna understand because I’m not you. You’re going to have to accept that men are different from you, they have different needs, they have different wants, even when they have the same needs and the same wants, it’s still going to work differently, and that that’s okay. If you distance yourself from women like this in the first place and so did everyone else like everyone else distances themselves from creeps, this wouldn’t be a problem, and you’d get your fairytale, however you have failed to police behavior like women used to, in the us, women have largely traded in femininity for psudo-masculinity because of laughably idiotic ideas like sexual “liberation” and being a “career woman” (because i again feel like i’m walking on eggshells) These are not my opinions, I looked at data, the daughter says since those things have happened on a large scale you guys are now the unhappiest women to have ever lived in recorded history. Like that’s not something to brush off. If you understand economics you understand why women entering the workforce was detrimental to women the most as it created the circumstances in which we live now wherein we can’t support a family on a single income. When you double the work force you halve wages. you’re not creating more money by adding more human capital, you were adding more bodies for it to be disbursed amongst. Actual value doesn’t change, just the amount of people you have to draw from bring that value to you. This is literally Econ 101. And just so you know 80% of women throughout the entire country were vehemently against oh growing women to work because they were like no no shut up we have a really good deal we don’t have to do anything. don’t take my word for it though, look up primary documents from the years prior and leading up to the addition of women to the workforce in the US. It’s bad for men and it’s bad for women, not that it’s going to change. It’s bad for men because men have a need to be needed, if a man doesn’t feel needed his testosterone drops to the floor. If women are making their own money and they’re like I don’t need a man blah blah blah and that isn’t being policed by women as bad behavior, that enables the behavior and it proliferates. Add a couple of generations and here we are. Men are rightly logically afraid of women because of large scale behavioral changes in women. Were the same in a lot of ways, there is only so much a person can take from other people before they either detach or flip the fucking table. And you’re not allowed to flip the fucking table so most just disassociate (decide not to pursue women) leaving a larger pool of women for an incrementally smaller number of men over time. These are not the good men. These are the men that pass 80% (yes literally 80% according to tinder’s internal surveys of their user base as well as every other app who has done a study like this and a lot of them have) of you around. Rife with abuse as well as manipulations which are abuse honestly, the cycle repeats itself. Men police other men all the time, constantly actually, if I’m out in public and i see some fucked up shit, and a girl is possibly in danger, I’m doing something about it and helping her. Good men are like that. But even the best man will stop extending help to others if he’s exposed to enough narcissistic treatment and develops narcissistic tendencies as a coping mechanism, do you see how this is a cyclical sociological ill? if you’re exposed to enough repeated trauma within a short time span, you lose the ability to empathize with anyone at all. We know this from hundreds of years of psychological research. It works on everyone and there are no exceptions except for the rare few that are at the upper bounds of psychological resilience.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Okay first off very very well worded second I completely agree with most if not all points third id like to know what got you down this road of mental thought so I may continue my learning experience from here and youre point of view fourth great job (I literally mean that)
[–]Hot_Role9647 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Thank you I honestly was not expecting that response
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What were you expecting some of it felt like a defensive reaction but I get why the world is messed up
[–]Hot_Role9647 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not defensive at all, my frame of mind is a teaching one not a defensive one :)
Oh okay yeah I guessed as much which is why I said felt
[–]SuperMuffin -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
YIKES man that's a lot of issues and a lot of rationalising why those issues are other people's (women's) fault
[–]Hot_Role9647 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
yikes, research and data, i know very scary. Do you know what’s hilarious about this? I cited research and you’re making this into a personal thing. I love women, talking to them is some of the most fun I have, you’re personalizing this way too much.
[–]SuperMuffin -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I'm sorry to tell you, but that comment, whilst having value for your mental health practitioner, has no scientific value. That's not "citing research" works.
[–]Hot_Role9647 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is reddit not an mla reference page, I brought up research conducted by tinder and other dating apps, if you’d like more there’s a pew research study that says 65% liberal women are on heavy psych meds, it’s from march, and it’s not based on self reports
[–]aquariuskitty_ -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Never. Why am I chasing a man who can’t even speak to me like I’m a human being?
Then why should we "chase" you if you can't treat us like humans
[–]Firc 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
While I agree with the post, lets not forget who this is coming from. This is a 41 year old women (good looking) with 2 kids. You seem nice but I would never actually approach you in real life with intentions of dating or hooking up. Young men are probably not approaching what appears as friendly older ladies. Most older ladies are friendlier with me simply because they are already taken and happy. They don't have their guard up like young girls who get hit on all the time. The people who are telling you to approach us in this case are correct. You have to be a bit extra in order to convey what you want at your age.
[–]MalibuProducer77 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup exactly my thoughts too. Honestly, no guys are really checking for women in their 40's. Most want younger, hot women. She's going to have to do way more now than when she was 25.
[–]glenmorangie_brain 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Perhaps OP means that even older women want to be approached. Not much is written about this demographic, and the way they meet up. I would agree with you in that seeing an attractive, older woman, I would assume they are taken.
I also think older women are friendlier because they have more finely honed social skills, and greater confidence. You are right though, in that being in a relationship gives more confidence when meeting new people, of the opposite sex.
[–]Hot_Role9647 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would assume that they’re taken, and if I know that they’re not taken I’ll question why and come to the conclusion that they suck.
[–]Woujo 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Most guys cannot appreciate women they do not know. The anxiety is too much.
I have also found that some women just look mean, even if they are not, and those women rarely get approached, but women who "look" nice get approached a lot. You may have resting bitch face.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I smile a lot. I’m extremely friendly. I’m aware of the resting bitch face look and it’s never been me. I’m a comic. I’m hilarious!
[–]elvissayshi 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Your age?
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
41.
[–]TheOffice_Account 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah, that's working against you. As a guy, if I have to take the risk of hitting on someone in public, I'd much rather hit on someone much younger.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What type of men do you want to be approached by? Let's say a guy is bald (shaved head), around your age, in good shape, and came up and gave you a compliment without getting any signals from you first. How would you react?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’d freak out and I would beam! I would be super stoked!!!
[–]elvissayshi -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are intimidatingly pretty. I can understand why you don't get approached by the "no way crowd" no way, she wants me, not taken, can I afford her, she wants to be bothered.... Where are you located? Hell, I'd take a shot if not too far away, and I got some encouragement. References available upon request.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
San Francisco Bay Area. I wish people wouldn’t think that. They also believe if you’re pretty you can’t be depressed, have anxiety or be single. It sucks.
[–]eatmorefootball 99 points100 points101 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Look, I don’t mean to be the guy crying out about how hard men have it but come on now, give me a break. If it’s so easy, why don’t you start approaching men?
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I do. All the time. They’re not single or they’re not interested. 🤷🏼♀️
[–]eatmorefootball 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fair enough. I guess I was making an unfair assumption, usually when I hear people wishing they got approached more they never do any of the approaching. Good luck to you out there!
Edit: never mind. I read some of the rest of your replies and I think the answer to why you never get approached is right in front of you.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you I really appreciate your feedback.
[–]Aggravating_Farm_125 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No way do I believe that. As a guy who rarely approaches woman, I’ve been rejected 90% of the time. The time I did have success was when a woman approached me. I saw she was interested and I asked her out. We only had one date and it fizzled out. Not the most good looking guy but I have a stable job, my own place and work out daily, etc. Woman looking for dates have it the easiest. They have many choices.
Probably scared to death..."who, me? What did I do wrong?"ange?"
Lol!!!
[–]Obi2 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
The prettier you are the less you will be approached. Fear of failure is the main reason guys don't approach in general. The guys who DO approach, a good amount of them are probably over confident or narcissistic. Where are you going to in your free time? Guys are constantly being told that approaching girls you do not know is creepy. I was just having this convo with some coworkers last week and all the girls were acting like only serial killers do that.. I haven't read all your posts to get context, but I would just give a dude a compliment, an obvious one and if he takes the bait then good. Don't say you like his shoes or his coat, tell him you like him smile or his eyes. Then linger for a bit with open body language. Sometimes dudes need a few minutes to gain the courage. I'm a pretty good looking dude with lots of "value" in terms of height, athleticism, education, and work.. but even for me and guys with more power than me it can be difficult to not worry about getting turned down, especially in public.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I swear to you I could dangle my pussy in front of a man’s face and he STILL will wonder if I’m interested. It’s baffling.
[–]KingOfTheNorthern 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go for it!
[–]YYC9393 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is it really baffling? Go over to twoxchromosomes and read any post. Men are pieces of shit and scumbags for doing literally anything according to them. We get labelled rapists for accidentally brushing arms on a crowded train or not interpreting “feelings” correctly.
That’s really crappy. Sorry to hear that.
[–]midwestwerewolf 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man that sounds like modern girls. Maybe it is time to try older women 🤔
[–]dotalchemy 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Either that or he’s wondering why someone is waving their genitalia in his face while he’s quietly trying to decide between a Nest and an Ecobee.
[–]biogirl787 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im never approached but my beautiful ass friends are approached every time we are in the street
[–]Moctezuma_93 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link
This just isn't sound advice. Not all women want to be approached by men.
[–]UnderTheSettingSun 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They have to say "Sorry I am not interested" and then it's over. It's no big deal
Me too.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
People need to realize there is a creepy way to speaking to people and there is a non creepy way of speaking. If you’re looking at a woman’s tits with drool falling out of your mouth it’s probably not going to go well. A simple compliment can really go a long way. It’s not that hard. I do it daily.
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[–]jaybadz 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP your points are all valid, but you are seeing firsthand how fucked up dating has been made for men. Everything is so confusing! We are told not to hit on women, and then called names if we do! As a woman you making your interest perfectly obvious is, unfortunately, what is going to get you your best results. Kudos to putting your effort forward though.
[–]HEKRomeo 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing invalidates her advice
[–]genoherpasyphilaids 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
God forbid you have to do more than just smile to get attention 🙄
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I say hello. I wave. I’m talking about complete strangers.
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[–]BluePsychosisDude2 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
If a chick smiles and waves and you still don't shoot your shot, or at least make conversation, that's on the guy haha We all know men will always do more work, good on her for putting in some effort.
[–]BluePsychosisDude2 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You sound kind of angry at these women, my guy. Just accept that it is what it is, she's smiling and waving at you, the human thing is to smile and wave back, and then if you want to talk to her then do that. A girl smiling and waving at you isn't a spider and you aren't a fly in her web! haha
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[–]BluePsychosisDude2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you think a human being smiling and waving at you is bullshit, then you might want to sit and think about that for a while. She's saying hello to you, she's a person attempting to reach out to another person, and you put up these walls and say "why don't you come over here and approach me YOU BITCH!" that kind of energy would put anybody off. Life is a dance, learn to dance with it, there's always a chance for connection. And even if you don't get what you probably want which is to get laid or something, you can say hi to a stranger and brighten their day and make a friend.
[–]BluePsychosisDude2 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol perhaps seduction shouldn't be your focus, but being less of an angry stick in the mud.
[–]jaasx 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
if a stranger waves to me I'm 99% sure they're waving at someone behind me. Because ... I can't think of a single case where a stranger actually waved at me.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How should we approach ?
What to say and what NOT to say.
Help a newbie out
Don’t look at our boobs or our other parts or comment on our body if you don’t know us. That is creepy and not ok.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think a compliment goes such a long way. Does she have pretty hair? Nice clothes? Pretty eyes? I would love it if a man gave me a sincere compliment and looked me in the eye when he said it! I would be so overjoyed!!!!
Hair and eyes and fine. Even had a man tell me I had beautiful skin once and that was nice to hear.
[–]Redis_Sara 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I have the handsome but shy syndrome so I can’t approach for shit….
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I understand. I’m shy too. It’s hard.
[–]MalibuProducer77 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bruh same here man 😂
[–]chuckvsthelife 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
For every person who says they wish they would be approached every guy hears 10 that say that just being out in public isn't permission to be hit on.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Giving someone a compliment is free and kind. You should try it sometime. I do it everyday. To complete strangers. Some ignore me. Most light up and smile.
[–]chuckvsthelife 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Giving someone a compliment isn’t hitting on people though. Although some cultures wouldn’t appreciate that either YMMV. Willingness to have someone you don’t know talk to you at all varies drastically across cultural boundaries.
In the US though… I’m a straight parterre man. I’ll tell guys I like their shirt, women that their earrings are cute. Especially if our at a bar or some sort of social event.
[–]PiratesFan1429 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wanna go out? I'll show you my baseball card collection
[–]MO_drps_knwldg 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This guy fucks
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do, and Its almost always positive and goes somewhere. It's the subtle hints, girls are great at indicating interest imo. They will come standby me, or look at me, or say something just stupid/silly to me.
I've learned is if you are picking up something in the air around an attractive girl.. it's probably you just sensing the reality of the situation. She's into you, you should reciprocate, relax, acknowledge what's happening and take control so she can relax too and you can break the ice.
It's then on me to do something about it. Sometimes I don't sometimes I do. It's all fun though. I love girls they're so cute and fun xp When you can start identifying when a girls dropping subtle hints just relax chill acknowledge it be honest w her tell the truth. If ur worried about what to say just be honest your honest self is ur Tru self. Good luck homies thank u OP girls just b horny too
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Looking @ your post history..... I 100% (don't) believe this post whatsoever.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok
[–]Qbertyy 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think most men at a certain point in their life just give up on trying. In a culture where men are expected to do so much and get no appreciation for anything they do it seems a lot better to just not bother with most women. Most don't care that a girl is pretty as much anymore, there's tons of pretty girls out there. Show men that you actually care and not just trying to get attention.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well that’s a shame. I haven’t quit trying and I’m 41.
[–]Alonso81687 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, you.
I do a lot.
[–]flying-pancakes 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There's a sub clause in the bro code where it states that every pretty girl has this one male friend who's trying everything he has to get out of that friend zone. So as a sign of respect to our fallen brother we delay the first move .
Where is he?!? I’ll fuck him right now. :)
[–]Robertelee1990 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’m not joking or trying to be mean or anything like that.
Even ugly guys? Like I don’t approach people Because I’m fat and my face isn’t very nice and I don’t think anyone would enjoy taking to that let alone dating it.
I don’t go for looks. I like confidence and brains and funny men. I don’t mind a little out of shape either. But they never know this because they don’t give me the time of day. 🤷🏼♀️
[–]midwestwerewolf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No one wants us approaching bruh.
I think most women think I'm some kind of serial killer.
[–]chris23399 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
where are you from? I feel like its more US culture
USA
[–]darksword2020 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Make eye contact 3 times with the next guy you want to approach you. Yes, you may have to go a little out your way on the third time.
Do it today and let us know what happened.
Let the social expirement begin...
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I could sit on a man’s face and he still won’t get it. It’s kind of hilarious actually.
[–]Coronaboy_30 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'll volunteer and test this theory out and reply back to all with the results.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Deal.
[–]elvissayshi 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Me too, by the way.
[–]Coronaboy_30 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Let's compare notes after and send out our conclusions.
[–]midwestwerewolf 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love a good research project!
[–]Alex_O7 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Mmmh I think you have to mention more things, like context, places and even city/country you are referring.
If you go in a library for example, don't expect to be approached, even you make big eyes and smiles at a guy. Probably he is not there to flirt to begin with.
If you just walk around and look at guys you like it would be difficult to recieve a lot of cold approaches, I would say that only a 5-10% of guys are bold enough to make a move like that, unless they are not out there for your very same reason.
If you want to be approached you have to pick the right place and time, like go to bars, clubs and/or hang out in street if that's a thing I your city or go to a mall. I that case I bet my pp you will find out a lot of men interested in you.
P.s: probably there were some guys that was giving you sign of interest but you were not into them/noticed them 😉
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Doubt it. I’m very observant. I think men are lazy and have become weak and expect women to do everything and it’s so not attractive. Gross 🤢.
[–]weedcard69 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bruh
[–]Alex_O7 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What are you doubting about what I've said?
What you say didn't respect my observation and full life experience as a man. I always had to do the first steps and so it was for most of my friends (only few very good looking could just wait women to do the first step, but also they usually made first steps too).
I give you a suggestion, try to go to a bar a club or in general in more socially accepted placed to hit on girls. You will find at least a 50-50 of men hitting on women. Try it, you have nothing to loose.
If you came here just to say that men are weak and gross nowadays it is another thing, and we don't really have to discuss.
[–]Disturbed_Aidan 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But I’m SHY
It’s hard I am too. I understand.
[–]L4V1 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
What can we say and or do AFTER we approach? oh great wise one.
I myself can be causal and everything normally when talking to any woman. BUT when I put it into my head that I actually WANT to hit on or talk to a woman, I feels like I’m trying too hard.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I’ve been in sales my entire life so I take for granted my conversational skills. At the end of the day remember: most people like to talk about themselves. Ask questions! We got two ears and one mouth for a reason. :)
[–]Xuke88 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but I think ur talking about wanting ur dream guy to approach. If a guy approaches but doesn't meet ur needs, he is a creep and ur running. Why should a guy volunteer for embarrassment and self esteem pain?
[–]letmereaddamnit 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah it's weird; when I was growing up most stuff was saying not to do this. Like if you go up to a woman because she's pretty that's sexist and bad! Don't hit on girls in public you'd just bother them! Stuff like that in TV and movies and stuff, then you go online and you always hear about toxic masculinity and mansplaining, if you aproach a woman that's cat calling and it makes you evil. It seems like everything was telling me not to chase after women they don't like it.
And here I am at 23 and it turns out that much of that was bullshit. Turns out when you call a girl beautiful she smiles. Alot of them want to be talked to, shoot your shot holmie.
Boom
[–]AUsernameTakenNot 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So what if the pretty girl is using her phone ( IG, Facebook....) Makes the pretty girl seem unapproachable
That wouldn’t be a good time. :)
If I’m going to be real here, if guys aren’t approaching you then your either never outside, overweight, or so beautiful that men are scared to even look at you.
[–]loofyd 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm saving this post, I'll look at it every time i feel too scared to approach a girl or ask one to coffee
Don’t assume a pretty girl has a bf!!!
I do this quite often, any advice on how to throw this fear out of the window ?
I would love if more men would talk to me and try to get to know me
Hypothetically say if a guy approaches you , what do you like to talk about with him ?
And how can he effectively get to know you ? Asking because i want to ask this girl out but I don't know shit about what to talk about if she agrees
Thanks for this post, it means alot to guys like me who think approaching girls whom we don't know will get us men in big trouble !
Cheers ✌🏽
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I have. A million times.
[–]Neckyourself1 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Not to be rude but if you are beautiful and approached so many guys how are you single? Seems like you may have another issue that is not related to men approaching you.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I recently broke up with my boyfriend. I wish people wouldn’t ask why a pretty girl is single. 😫
[–]KingOfTheNorthern 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you recently broke up, how have you approached people so many times? Maybe you’re just not ready for a new relationship.
I think you break up with them cuz you're bored.
[–]Neckyourself1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry
[–]BlackBatman91 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
We do, but you ( women) give us the cold shoulder as if it we committed a crime by trying to talk to you. Not saying you do this but a lot of women are only interested in talking to a guy that she herself finds physically attractive.
Those women are shitty. Run for the hills from them!!! Entitled bitches.
Second OP: they suck!!
Also my dream is to go up to someone but im so scared that theyll reject me. Like i have a crush on a guy at the gym and we always make eye contact but i just feel so awkward and weird thinking about going up like what if he just thinks i like him cause i think hes cute?! (Its not actually just that. I see him all the time and he plays basketball and its an admirable trait that hes dedicated to a hobby). If i could I would. but id be sooooooo gassed if he came up to me
[–]ProductivityMonster 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
It's funny that you have a lot in common with younger guys (both annoyed at the amount of work it is to approach/lead). At some age, the tables do turn. Usually it's guys asking out the hot, young women and then as they get older, usually the women actually have to do some work beyond looking pretty. It's usually a shock to them as they've been utterly spoiled their entire lives with male attention up until ~35 years old. Consider that a lot of the guys are really kind of tired of it after ~20 years of hard work hitting on flaky, young women with lots of options - that's why they're very quick to leave and not willing to put up with non-reciprocation/initiation.
EDIT: I would also add black women to that list of people with fewer options and to a lesser extent fat women (although that's usually within one's control). Basically younger white/asian women who are not fat have it super easy.
TLDR; "the wall"
[–]Casanova-Quinn 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
At some age, the tables do turn. Usually it's guys asking out the hot, young women and then as they get older, usually the women actually have to do some work beyond looking pretty.
You're on the money. Check out OP's profile, she's a 41 yo single mom. Funny how she's now begging for men to approach her.
[–]MalibuProducer77 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup he's definitely on the money with this
I’m begging. Clearly. Lol.
[–]MalibuProducer77 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This EXACTLY!
[–]LandscapeClear1630 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Stop waiting for men to do the hard work.
DO IT YOURSELF! Approach men!
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
HahahHa ok.
Why don't you just approach guys? Seriously, I'd be surprised if you didn't get a date off your first try.
HahahHa I do. Most have been taken or were not interested.
[–]Hagi89 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So where would you like to be approached. Because few days ago i saw a similar post but she said quite the opposite. So I am not sure :(
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think it’s about the delivery. A sincere compliment goes a long way esp if you’re not staring at her crotch or her tits. A genuine smile is worth so much. I love when a man gives me a compliment without expectations.
[–]redeyerds 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Maybe your giving a vibe to not approach you.
Smiles and big happy eyes. Must definitely be me!
[–]ImanShumpertplus 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
going to a coffee shop tm morning
i will approach a girl while i’m there
Perfect spot. You rock.
I think the last 5 or 6 girls I've approached had boyfriends. I don't want any drama so it ended there.
But simply saying hello and not knowing someone has a boyfriend isn’t reason for drama. If she tells you that and you keep going that is another story. I mean how else do people make a connection? Someone has to put it out there. Someone is going to get rejected.
[–]5_7pickup 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh I approach you girls… alot
You are a rockstar
We're a small community in contrast with the male population!
We must be protected
I do not approach girls that can't look in my eyes for at least 3 seconds. I think that, just this, is a good initiative from women and make me know that they are approachable.
Make eye contact and smile, pls :)
Edit: No one likes to be a creep, I have been in some situations myself.
[–]IamWisdom 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I did cold approach last summer for the whole summer, granted it was probably pretty bad cold approach. But I still only ever got 1 date from it and the girl ghosted me. So now I just do night game and dating apps and I have wayyy more success doing that.
[–]YoDaddy1069 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m really glad to hear this. I just got out of a serious long term relationship and I’m trying really hard to put myself out there and approach a lot of women. Unfortunately, I have a cell phone full of #s but I just can’t seem to land a date. It gets me down sometimes, but after seeing this, I’m gonna keep my chin up. Thank you!
Keep at it!!!!!
[–]SharkAttack-920 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So, ridicule by pompous vanity driven women is non existent? Maybe try to govern within before outsourcing. Tell all ur girl friends to not trash someone if they approach them respectfully. I say the same with us men. Don’t encourage shit behavior, and maybe the change will happen naturally
[–]EthanWaberx 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is incorrect. Do not approach wemon you don't know. Seriously, they will humiliate you.
No. They won’t. Don’t be a dick and stare at her tits or approach her in a dark alley way. If a woman cannot accept a sincere compliment with grace then she’s not worth your time!
[–]alienStarDawg420 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hmm lots of software engineers that have little social interaction on the day to day basis most likely does reduce the pool size?
100%!!!!!!!! THIS.
I literally asked my girlfriend today if before we met I asked her for her number and we were strangers she would’ve said no.
[–]s373n11 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Some girl on tiktok said to not approach women you don’t know. Sorry, our hands are tied
It’s called saying hello. Adele does it a lot.
[–]Ragnarok992 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk last time i wasn’t even doing shit (using my phone) i was called a creep by 2 good looking girls and almost got in a fight with some of their friends.
In this day approaching a woman is a an issue that can go south asap
[–]ruddywaters 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So in less than 1 sec we are expecred to derive a socially non-threatening method to grab your attention long enough to notice us, to gain access to a 2-4 second window within which we are to express interest in the most delicate way possible.....However we arent suppose to learn this method from anyone who may have mastered the technique, and it's frowned upon to practice this by approaching women constantly? Phew! Whatever shall we do?
Welcome to reality.
[–]throwMeAwayTa 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You're preaching to the wrong crowd unfortunately; really you need to be spreading this message in feminism and similar subs. Of course sadly I don't think your view will be quite so well supported.
I was cheering men on. You all took it as an attack. Sensitive much?
[–]Voldyz 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes what seems as obvious to a woman is very, very confusing to a man. If you like a guy, step it up a bit
[–]Sumieru 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wink wink , notch notch
[–]unlivedbread 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How'd you go about opening though? I usually say "hey I was walking by, thought you were pretty and wanted to introduce myself". I hear this is too direct though, how'd you go about it?
I love that.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
or how about you do some approaching yourself
me personally i was brutally shot down the last time i tried. she made sure to dance on my grave, call me broke, poor and laughed in my face (funny bc i had just closed on a half a million dollar home). the reason? i spent 1-2 dollars on some nuts and bolts in her store and that's all i ever bought.
but to hell with that level of disrespect. will never approach again.
That’s awful!! I’m so sorry you had that experience. I would never!!!! I do a lot of approaching and am tired of doing all the work for men. It’s exhausting.
[–]elvissayshi 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why on Earth would you give some jerk the power to ruin your life? "Never approach again". Because some whack-job you don't even know gave you the elbow? For crying out loud man, no wonder we're getting our ass kicked by Japan.
toxicity at its finest.
[–]elvissayshi -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No shit.
[–]Comand94 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don't intend to be mean, but I suggest you do the approaching yourself if you're so eager to find a guy. A lot of men would appreciate something like that and you are likely to get positive results from single guys, and the guys with girlfriends will mostly give you good reactions too, a woman with confidence in her resolve is quite the sight.
It is a better, more powerful experience to empower yourself than to ask someone to do it for you - look at the guys who are happy even though they got rejected, you wouldn't believe it, but asking someone out with no expectations makes you feel good about yourself in a neat kind of way, it's something everyone should try if they can.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Not eager to find a guy just trying to get laid. Lol.
[–]PanchasX 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Please approach us!!
I do! I always have. I’m just tired of doing all the work. It’s not sexy.
[–]PanchasX 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I get It, don't do any work for us. Simply be around us.
[–]Far-Difference6591 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What men would really benefit from, is tips, tutorial on tht correct way to approach a gal like you? The proper space to give so a gal doesn't feel cornered. That we need to be direct, respectful, confident, smile.
To not be focused on scoring the number, but just having a nice, positive interaction with another human being that we fancy.
Guys? Not succeeding when trying? Doesn't mean you/ we failed, or mean you have to get pissed. They is Not what's up. Very often, No doesn't mean she's not interested.
She could be happy in a relationship, in between figuring out the one she is in?, Just got out of a long term and wants some time, space. Not in a good mental and or physical space for dating? Work, school stress? We Don't have to take No so personally.
No thanks can mean not right now. Gotta Stop menacing women when they say no.
THIS.
[–]Realistic_Status 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
i do but you all flake. theres no hope. its women that dont value men approaching them. maybe because you girls get it from many guys everyday. such as tinder,fb instagram etc etc. you girls are blessed you can get the d anytime you girls want.
[–]Hot_Role9647 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s exactly what it’s come to be, that women got validation from men approaching them in the past, now they just open an app and then they feel good about themselves and then they just go on with life and keep doing that. And they wonder why they’re all fucking depressed after they hit the wall
[–]MalibuProducer77 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup exactly
I’ve met a lot of flaky men. I understand this.
[–]caracers510 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Will I end up with you if I try? 😏
Won’t know unless you try
[–]bholeezus 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Appreciate your post, sometimes we get in our heads because we live in a disconnected world due to tech. Also, coming off as creepy seems to be another detterant. But, usually, physical contact a brush on the arm or touch of the hand are great indicators of interest that I have noticed. Anyways, if you smiled and waved at me in SoCal. We'd be going to D-land real quick. (Disneyland)
Again, I don’t need help flirting or talking to men. I need them in front of me though to do that. So if they keep their heads in their phones and their headphones on it’s pretty hard to approach.
[–]ShredableSending 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So I gotta say, that only time someone compliments me on my looks, they're typically someone's grandma. The couple times that weren't, married women. I feel like I'm not the slowest guy out there, but I'd be shocked if someone came on to me in public, probably wouldn't know what to say.
Personally, I see quite a few pretty women on a daily basis. But I'm driven by personality first, looks are 1a. And it's not possible to get to know a personality within the 30s a pickup line usually lasts.
Hope you find someone to connect with!
Is it not good if I compliment a man to get a convo going?
[–]ShredableSending 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't misunderstand, a compliment and a convo is great. Ease into things and you'll be successful. If you want a compliment opener, compliment something like jacket, shoes, etc. Find something that isn't a physical feature, but clearly they've put effort into, that you actually like (flattery is useless).
As the convo progresses, your intentions will likely be a bit more clear, which opens the door for nice muscles, can I feel or something about nice haircut, beautiful eyes. Something that makes it clear you find them attractive. If they don't come back with something reciprocative and make a move, at this point it would likely be at least somewhat expected when you ask them out or ask if they've got a girlfriend, if you have to be straightforward at this point anyways.
A more passive approach that ramps up over a few minutes will work more often than a pickup line or a few short sentences, as it gives the other person time to adjust to the situation (If you haven't guessed by now, this works on ladies too).
Some people will see through a barrage of personal comments out of the blue, interpret it as flattery, and spend the rest of the interaction wondering what your angle is or what alterior motives you have. Not everyone. But enough to be frustrating. Giving everyone time to adjust works very well.
Would love to next time I’m there! Thanks!!
[–]AVGVSTVS_OPTIMVS 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This. This is what I've always told other men when they ask me how to get a girlfriend. Just approach them. Don't care if they think it's creepy. If they're creeped out by a man approach them (how DARE us lol) then that's their problem.
But it'll help out alot if women started approaching us too.
Agreed.
[–]averageguy4you4 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm glad I read your words cause every time I see a pretty girl I think she wants to mind her business and not being annoyed. They keep saying women are approached constantly, also in inappropriate ways, they made cat calling illegal and, even tho I wouldn't be inappropriate, it hinders me a lot!
I’m literally never approached. Sorry today a 65 year old overweight dude who lives two hours from me asked me to go golfing. :)
[–]elvissayshi 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fore! LOL
[–]socialanimal_us 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Trying to solve that and people not meeting generally at www.YouTube.com/socialanimal - I am always looking for people to do my subscriber challenge if anyone is interested ;)
[–]blunt_eastwood 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You wanna go out?
[–]enzotoretto 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I got you 😎
❤️
[–]livinin82 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hi…do you come here often?
[–]roakmamba 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wanna go out?
[–]yuckyuck13 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think this has to do more with fear and societal judgement. I'm in total agreement with your post though. Some interaction will go well, some won't. It's all a learning experience and how will anyone learn if they don't make the attempt. And the majority of women are totally cool with a simple chat up. So why not make the attempt even if its a loss. It's a learning experience. Some, maybe most, just don't have the gall to do it.
[–]RapTVCalifornia 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m Sorry I will never approach women again
[–]K_Sleight 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Frankly, I scare people, and have no idea how to make an appropriate approach.
Just say hi.
[–]Chad_Thundermember 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're a breath of fresh air, lady-OP.
Do you mean that or are you being mean? I really was cheering men on honestly.
[–]Chad_Thundermember 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean it.
I have a lady friend who is just like you. Although she doesn't go out of her way to invite flirting, she just doesn't mind it. And I new she should be my friend when she told me that she thinks women who easily get creeped out are stupid.
My high school crush was the same way, and so was my first date from when I finally got to live on my own many years ago.
[–]dark-_-thoughts 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Honestly I don't assume women have significant others unless they tell me they do or they're wearing a ring. What I do assume is unless they are staring at me they don't care one way or another about me. And me approaching them it's not appropriate. You got to remember guys do not understand signals and convert signs.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
In this day in age men are so scared to even breath next to a woman due to any move being sexual harassment or being called a creep. Especially hot women. Don't wait on a man to approach you, you'll be waiting forever. Women have to make the first move. Thank the modern feminists for that one. Woman up and get out there. It's like a lioness on the hunt. Have fun with it. Plus it keeps you in control of the encounter.
[–]Ill-Entrepreneur7400 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For me personally, approaching girls has been fun and positive (after you get over the initial fear) even if they wouldn't give me their Instagram or number, it was still a good experience. Sure, we have some outliers that want to make you feel like what you've done/doing is wrong and that you should feel ashamed, but don't let them stop you guys, because there is a girl like op that's just waiting for a guy like you to walk into her life.
[–]bloopblapbleep 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol one day it’s “approach us” next day it’s “don’t approach us do you know how scary it is?”
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In a dark alley when a woman is alone? Yeah use your common sense, probably not smart!
[–]twa8u 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why dont you APPROACH MEN since its YOU who wants a relationship? First of all, who knows you're "PRETTY" and you're telling men OWE you a relation bcoz you THINK YOU'RE PRETTY. Come on, grow up. If you want the job you want, education want you want then better WORK for the relationship you want.
Not looking for a relationship was just trying to flirt and get laid but thanksssssss
[–]Comradecraig 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
100% chance this account is a man. Women despise having men approach them in public when they're just trying to go about their business.
Hahahahha ok.
[–]icanchi 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a man. Or a woman with serious attention issues.
[–]A_solo_tripper 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The dating market will tell you how pretty you are. Not trying to diss you or put you down. But, stateside, if you are pretty, you are getting approached, catcalled, free drinks, asked out, etc.
Hell, even not pretty women get asked out. When was the last time you spoke with a man?
[–]player89283517 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
We don’t assume you have a bf we’re afraid you’ll think we’re harassing you
Your loss. 🤷🏼♀️
Don’t harass us then. It’s really easy. She has a bf? Stop asking. Men misunderstand body language.
[–]ha_ku_na 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously, this is 2021, ask out the guys you like instead of waiting around.
[–]Mr_Wazanskiiii 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I appreciate the encouragement, really. I don't have too much of an issue if I'm waiting for something next to her and she isn't closed off, which is pretty easy to tell if she is. It helps if something is going on to comment on that isn't part of or hanging off her body, but I have commented on shoes or something similarly innocuous. But basically she was right there to talk to and was probably pretty open and smiley, or trust me, I wouldn't have had the courage. So making that opener is fine. However, it's the picking my ass up and moving across the room to do the same thing that I find impossible. Even if the signals are there. I don't know what it is. I know I'm always fine after I get past, "Hi.", assuming she engages, but... I don't know. I know the advice is to not think but act, but it's just that 8 seconds from my seat to hers where my stomach climbs into my nostrils. Anyway. I wonder if others aren't like me, where they could climb a lower bar, but literally approaching a woman is our Everest. Especially one as beautiful as you are.
I do understand you don't want to do all the work but maybe setting us morons up for success a bit more to where we can take over simply by closing the proximity gap might be an interesting experiment.
P.s. now that I wrote out the way I've been able to strike up a conversation in the past I'm feeling kind of funny about it. I guess I'm more or less said that I'm able to say hi when I have a captive audience... 😬 But they weren't. It wasn't the barista. It really is when we're waiting to order a beer, or waiting for our floofy coffee drinks to come up. And again, I don't think I've ever asked for a number this way.
[–]KND_DNK 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Make sure to make it obvious you find us attractive!!!
[–]According-Mobile-993 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I mean it’s pretty insane that your first course of action is to blame men for your loneliness. Look at how lost you are when a man doesn’t approach you. If a man acted like you you’d be like “omg he’s so insecure”. Just that little bit of work and you’re screaming “men approach usssss” maybe you know now why they’re tired and don’t want to approach you.
Lost?
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Lonely? Did I ever say that? Lol I think I’ve hit some nerves with some men. Lol
[–]According-Mobile-993 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you’re making a post about being approached by men then yes you are lonely. If you weren’t you’d be living your life and not worrying about men approaching you. See men can actually do this because we don’t need women to survive but women can’t handle that. Not really, I’m ugly as fuck so if I approached women I’d be in jail for being a creep so instead I mind my own business. Women don’t ever wanna hear about anything that doesn’t concern them or involve them so it’s understandable why you’re so lost, you probably think men are your own personal piggy banks. What makes you think you’re pretty? If you were you wouldn’t be asking men to approach you, they would already do that so maybe you’re a hard 4 rather than a self proclaimed “pretty”.
[–]BradleyX 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’d approach you, you’re hot!
Thanks!
[–]Fr4nko_ 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why dont you approach? girls are so funny thinking guys should approach
I know weird right? God forbid!
[–]Srivastava123321 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Maybe because you are a single mother post-wall ?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
That’s why men don’t approach me? My kids are grown.
[–]Srivastava123321 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yes, youth is a big factor of attractiveness for men.
Have you seen me? 😂
[–]MalibuProducer77 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would have to agree with them, it's the truth. Honestly if you're a hot 20-25 yr old woman and you don't find a good guy early, when you get to be 30-35-40, it's not gonna be a cakewalk for you anymore. That's just how men are. They're not checking for any girl over 35 most of the time. The dynamics between men and women are very interesting to me. And plus, they probably think you have kids/are divorced so they're really not going to give you that attention. You would have to go just as hard as us guys trying to get that pretty 20 yr old girl we all want.
[–]KingOfTheNorthern 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha after being rejected thousands of times, why the hell would I do that again?
[–]okcomput3r 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I’m from the UK where approaching a stranger and talking to them is viewed as a cardinal sin unfortunately
Lame. Sounds shitty and not sexy.
[–]jreddittwice 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think it is possible you are intimidatingly hot, and that may be your challenge. Some women (like I see my wife) are so sexy or ooze such sex appeal that the little head interferes with higher processing and I think that is a skill necessary to negotiate the waters of seduction.
Thanks for this though, it is a great reminder that leagues have a lot more overlap than we think.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Nope feminist has ruined it for the rest of us. Plus when a guy does approach a girl then you immediately get freaked out and call him a creep. Most women do not want to get approached by a stranger. I will never do it because I could go to jail for even saying hi to a girl
[–]Global-Bridge-6787 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Where is this that you can go to jail for saying hi to a girl? Surely not America…
[–]Hot_Role9647 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
False accusations are common, scarily common, And people will always believe the woman over the man. A man can’t help a lost child find their mother, all it takes is one person to make an assumption and suddenly you’re on the sex offender registry because you wanted to help a child find their mom and some karen had a panic attack
I'm from Colorado. You can try tinder ?
So what, you don't trust women? Lol
Not really when it comes to approaching them. Most women don't like to be approached. They might say they do but then when they do get approached they don't like it and call the guy a creep.
[–]RainbowChardonnay 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Wow. So much pushback on this woman’s request to men on a sub about how to seduce women to actually approach a woman. You men are mystifying.
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[–]RainbowChardonnay -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Nah
[–]RainbowChardonnay -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Was I whining?
[–]RainbowChardonnay 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You’re saying that me pointing out whiny men is whining? I thought you said I would be whining for things not going my way. Very inconsistent.
[–]RainbowChardonnay 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sigh
[–]RainbowChardonnay 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also I’d like to point out to the group that what this Redditor is doing is an excellent example of gaslighting. A common repressive tactic of sexist men.
[–]RainbowChardonnay 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
?
And they complain they don’t get laid enough. 🤷🏼♀️
I think they just like to sit around and fantasize about how many women they could get if they tried.
[–]FlanneryODostoevsky -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It isn’t thoroughly understood enough how confused men are.
[–]RainbowChardonnay 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Agree! And women are accused of being the complicated ones…
[–]LongLiveMacdre 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Approaching most women nowadays isn’t worth it, end of story.
So how do you get laid? Or do you just Jack off to porn alone?
[–]LongLiveMacdre 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don’t get laid, and don’t jack off. Not that I don’t want to get laid. It’s just that I’m too short.
[–]mrrooftops 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Fishing for compliments and attention.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No i do that on my Onlyfans. Lol
Honestly it all depends on where you are at. There's usually a time in place for men to approach women. Most men lack some form of capacity to cold approach.
[–]ramb0285 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No u
[–]AstronautCrash -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You in AZ? Cause I would try to talk to you in a heartbeat if I saw you.
I was visiting family but thank you!
[–]YetzirahToAhssiah -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The more attractive the woman, the more enormous and terrifying the BF
I’m never with men and I have no ring on my finger. Excuses are like assholes. You guys all seem to have a lot of excuses to not talk to women. Interesting.
[–]YetzirahToAhssiah 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was joking. It's something I realized goes through my head, and sounds stupid/funny when I say it out loud.
I've approached strangers plenty of times.
Oh. Hahaha sorry.
[–]Complex-Indication -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hey, /u/bridgetthebanker ! You look stunning and thanks for that bit of motivation from your post. I'd totally strike a conversation with you, if we were in somewhat approachable radius lol. Don't listen to ppl saying you or other girls should approach "a million times".
Thanks! I agree. Sometimes I see hot men but they are walking into their car or talking to someone etc.
[–]JackTheRipper_17 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey u/bridgetthebanker, how's it going? You look really pretty and friendly too, so I wanted to say hi :)
Hi Jack :) thanks for saying hi! :)
It’s Friday I’m happy, how about you!!!?
[–]JacobMoogberg69 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You remind me of a girl I work with. She is cute and desperate to be put in some cuffs and ropes and have her brains fucked out of her head. But I think she may give off a bit of a desperate vibe to guys, cause they don't approach her. Maybe just be more indifferent and rub one off at home before you go out.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Smh. Never mind.
[–]Global-Bridge-6787 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol this guy’s just weird. He posts retarded shit like this.
[–]kbecel -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Guys. Listen to this girl and stop being pussies. They want to be approached. Don't be afraid to fail once in a while
THIS. Thanks.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I don’t need advice talking to men. I need men to work a little harder and also put some energy in.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I love shy guys are who are brave in bed. That’s the man for me. :)
I could look into that. I’m a great dancer. I’m just too embarrassed to go anywhere alone. (I’m new in town.)
Thanks for being nice.
Great idea!!!!
Definitely both. :)
[–]bholeezus 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Appreciate your comment, sometimes we get in our heads and think that we are coming off as creepy even though it's the most natural way to meet people. Kind of funny we're told as kids to be wary of strangers then as adults we need to interact with strangers. Anyways, if you were in SoCal and you approached with a smile and wave we'd be going to D-land real quick. (Disneyland)
[–]davedude97 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey! let's go out on a date 😏
I love it!!!!!!
[–]Mmm91for[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
What’s the best way to seduce a milf?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Fucking talk to her and stop expecting her to do EVERYTHING.
[–]SchmidFactor 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for your post! What are some good places/settings to approach women? I am usually comfortable initiating and talking to women, but I work from home and don't get to spend much time at places where women hang out.
Same here. It’s hard. I go to the gym and I mtn bike. I don’t go to bars because I don’t know anyone and don’t wanna sit at a bar alone as a woman.
[–]mynameizham 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Do you go up to men?
Yep. Most are married are say thanks and keep doing their errand/chore/task.
[–]ChefArtorias 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Do you have intense RBF or something? You're hot, kind of surprising that you'd get a noticable lack of attention.
Sounds like to me men want a guaranteed yes. That’s not the way life goes!
[–]ChefArtorias 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You in to younger men? I'd date you lol
Alternatively you could try wearing something similar to this...
https://awkwardtshirts.com/products/good-news-im-available-t-shirt
(i'm not trying to support that business in any way just using the link for the joke)
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Do men read?
[–]ChefArtorias 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
lol somebody sounds awfully salty :)
I posted a post trying to cheer men on and was met with attacks. 🤷🏼♀️
[–]ChefArtorias 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fair enough. I was not trying to attack you, and do apologize if I came across that way.
I don't know why you don't get approached often. Wish I could tell you what it was. There is a chance that it has nothing to do with you. I don't approach women very often because I have some deep seeded issues with depression and self loathing. Don't really see a point convincing somebody to love me when I hate myself so very much. I'm also terrible with small talk.
Surely not every man is going through these same struggles.. is there perhaps a chance that you smell a bit? That does tend to shake people off, but I'm obviously kidding I'm sure that's not it.
[–]Hot_Role9647 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course men want a guaranteed yes, so do you🙄🙄 The more I read your responses to other peoples comments the dumber I think you are, sorry if that’s mean but like it’s true honestly.
[–]Revolutionary_Wind_8 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well, I’ll be. honest here.
We’re afraid to approach you because of how horribly it could turn out in this day and age
Maybe instead of thinking about how horrible it could go you can focus on how wonderfully it could turn out? There’s a great commercial on this. Two people always run into each other in an elevator and they never say anything and plays out their life had they spoken to each other. It’s so cool.
But maybe I’m just a romantic.
[–]merchant_of_mirrors 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How about approaching you online? 😏
Not opposed to it!
[–]lana_del_reymysterio 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Aside from starting conversations with guys, do you also give green light signals for them to approach or escalate with you?
Meaning like making eye contact from across the room and smiling, having an upbeat vibe when talking to them, directly flirting with them, touching them etc?
Yep.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
In your opinion, how would you want someone to approach you ? Like what is something you would wanna hear when a man approaches you
Not in a dark alley if I’m alone. (I don’t think men realize how often women are honestly scared for their life.) a compliment would be awesome. “Hey you’re really pretty!” Soooo easy. Benign. If she’s interested she can keep talking if not she can say “thank you!“ and move on. No one’s feelings get hurt.
Ah that's what I been doing wrong, wearing very dark clothes in very dark alleyways, at nighttime, and outside the club.
Seriously tho thanks for the advice
You’re completely fucking delusional if you think for a second that you’re not hurting their feelings when you say “thank you” and nothing else.
You’re single because you’re a narcissist, seek therapy, genuinely.
[–]alienStarDawg420 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Where are you located? I wonder if the city/setting plays a role in this
Maybe. I’m in the Bay Area.
[–]MauPow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
no u
[–]WeCanDoThis74 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I casually flirt with girls all the time, but they always brush it off as friendly. I hesitate to ask girls on dates because I never know what to say or do on the dates.
edit for context
On dates?
[–]WeCanDoThis74 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right. I've dated a few girls online, but we're more like friends who are more emotionally supportive than usual. The three IRL girls I've gone on dates with were all the same: completely uninterested and only along for the free food. I haven't met a girl who reciprocated affection yet--well, at least not one who lives less than 20 hours away.
[–]the-wifes-bf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Approach you? Alright, here’s me shooting my shot. Let’s go for drinks
Ok dokay
[–]Altruistic_Field2134 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
OP I do not know why your getting such hostile comments from dudes when all you were trying to do is just say "hey some women like to be approached and you should not be afraid". Your doing gods work so have my upvote!
Thanks I was trying to cheer them on. 😫
[–]ConstantPeak1816 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I always ask myself: "is she out of my league?" Thats why im single
Go for someone out of your league. You might be surprised!!
[–]Avidestroyer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How you doing¿
[–]Eobardthawne89 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Let me see you. 🧐🧐
I’m all over Reddit. Lol
[–]Eobardthawne89 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ohhhh I see you now!!! Lol
:)
[–]Oriential-amg77 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro groups of women, 2-7 are the most approachable, couples are just fodder for throwing cheesy pick-up lines at the guy/gal.
[–]FaithInStrangers94 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How would you like a guy to come up and talk to you?
I’ve tried a bunch of different approaches and none are received real well
“Hi I think you’re really pretty.” “Hi I think your mtn bike is cool.” Hi do you work here?” Simple shit. It’s called “conversing.”
[–]glenmorangie_brain 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm curious, but where do you socialise?
[–]vinnievu141 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wish it was that easy to ask you out, but I need to establish good relations with your friends there and comfort and rapport and flirts before I can reach that stage. I am still trying to get those down.
[–]adsq93 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I get what OP is saying.
Just talk anything to any girl. It can be the silliest topic ever. Even if you gain nothing from it, just do it.
I talked to a random girl at Marshalls. Just said that I genuinely like on of her tattoos. We talked for like 15 minutes. She gave me her phone number.
This is what I was trying to say. Not sure why everyone got so defensive.
[–]VDKay 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Approach Us!!!
"... So I can get all the validation I need, feel better about myself, and eventually have more dating options (statistically higher-quality men), even though I'll still opt for my abusive ex the moment he texts me."
Jokes apart, if not for game and humor, you would reject 99% of people in this sub no matter how desperate you are.
Let us do our work here! We are trying to get better at flirting and socializing in general so we can keep carrying the conversations for lazy-ass people. If you want more men in your life, go out there and meet them and approach them yourself. You have the tools right in this sub. Sounds scary? Oh! You bet!!
God forbid a woman cheer you on and encourage you! Take advice from a man, because clearly you know more about what women want! Comical.
[–]Placher1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ok let's go out 🙃😂
Hahahahhaa deal
[–]Equivalent_Ad7389 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I cold approached a girl at the store today. Looked at her and said "Have we met"? She said "I don't think so." I replied "Well I think we should meet." She immediately smiled and said I have a boyfriend. So I said but you want to upgrade right. She laughed. I said "what happens when he breaks your heart?" That's where I come in. Then I said I'm just messing with you, have a good day. You have to be playfully persistent, not needy persistent. Have some confidence in yourself and assume she wants you, but she just might be unavailable.
The women worth approaching deserve to be approached. I honestly hate it women approach me, not that it ever happens much, but it feels too easy like you didn't earn it. Rejection feels good, it's like you leveled up.
So yeah I believe you. Sometimes men are afraid to approach really attractive women though. They just automatically tell themselves they aren't good enough or she's probably married.
Don't listen to any of these dudes saying you need to approach, they're just being pussies and are too afraid to approach women. Men need to learn to be comfortable with rejection, and the only way to get that is by doing it. Any girl worth it is going to be a little bit of a challenge, it's just a shit test, or compliance test, and you'll feel so good about it.
Being okay with rejection and the tension of approaching, with a "meh" attitude is highly desirable by women.
Once they say they are taken I would Back off. If men don’t want to be seen as creeps they need to know when to stop.
[–]Theory_Agile 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Some men are just tired of dating, usually a pretty girl means shes obsessed with her self and all she is really looking fornis free attention and validation from men. On the othet hand most girls will say men are creeps and always bugging them, is it a surprise guys arent approaching you? I recommend you take yout own advice and shoot your shots.
Because I’m pretty you assume all of that? Shall I assume you have a small dick based on your response? You know what happens when you make Assumptions right? Lol.
[–]Theory_Agile -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You could assume if you want its A 50/50 shot. 6 inches is small. Did I say you were pretty? I doubt that. I actually know some guys also dont like girls That are to forward and talkative with random men. If she's that open and easy to talk up, its a red flag.
FFS.
Why don’t you ask out?
[–]malcolm_reyn0lds 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Theres tons of guys approaching you, just not the ones you want to lol. And you are probably with your kid, so that would be kinda weird..
They are grown and no, there are not “tons.”
[–]malcolm_reyn0lds 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I find that hard to believe. Could be your specific area, because you are very attractive.
[–]SnooObjections4345 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It should be equal. I’m jealous of you girls. You can go to a club and the guys just come to you. That never happens to men.
Well there’s a lot of things women have to endure that I promise you wouldn’t want to deal with. Each gender has their pros and cons. Trust me: being a woman is really hard.
[–]Aerial_penguin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How young of guys are you looking towards?
[–]Nearby_Advance7443 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. It’s on my mind to make doing so more of a constant priority. I’ve just been pretty socially awkward most of my life. I make up for it by acting like a clown (to varying degrees of success). But I’ve grown a lot in recent years and it occurs to me that if I master inner and outer game that I’m an ideological package. Right now I’m about to do a big cross-country move where I know no one, and I’m not great at juggling too many big objectives, so I’m not focusing on this that much. But after I get settled, this is one of my biggest goals in the next chapter of my life.
And looking at your profile, you’re fucking gorgeous. Not having a boyfriend makes you more approachable, but having one would make taking you out or into my place all the more fun (lol I identify how Bond originally said to Vesper that she wasn’t his type because she was single).
[–]cory7990 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
And say what? What is an appropriate way to approach a situation of asking out a total stranger based on nothing but there looks?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I tried to, way back. Crippling approach anxiety always held me back. So... yeah sorry, as much as I'd love to, I just can't.
What about a hello?
[–]omegam4n 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well if you wanted male attention you posted in the right place.
Not desperate but thanks. Lol.
Yea please approach us
Speak English: “throw choosing signals?” Wtf does that even mean?
[–]Alpharettaraiders09 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Bc a lot of men are afraid of rejection and need you to let us know when your interested. One thing ive learned over the years, is A LOT of pretty women dont get approached bc we as men dont want to get rejected and or too intimidated by how attractive you are and "we arnt your type".
Shoot your shot. Rejection is all about how you react and can handle it. Hurts at first, walk it off, and approach the next.
Do men think women aren’t afraid of rejection? It’s just as hard for us!
[–]getyahfuckingyeeted 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
why cant women ask men out?
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