It’s really not that hard for unattractive guys/guys with typically unattractive traits to get sex from women

trail22 · 2022-06-18T19:19:54+00:00

As a 5’3 Asian guy in a country with mostly white women, I disagree. I have a fairly large social circle and am considered by many funny. You act as if women will give me the time of day to even know my personality.

erottawa · 2022-06-19T03:12:46+00:00

lol @ body count of 9, and all of them fat

barbodelli · 2022-06-18T16:12:09+00:00

Your type is women a lot of guys don't want.

The market is a lot more favorable for you for that reason. Whatever you do don't change it lol. It's good for both you and the fat girls.

kenshn1 · 2022-06-18T19:48:17+00:00

Definitely possible if you have decent social skills. But to me it sounds like you're going after below average women. Which I'm not hating on, my body count is around 25 and I've definitely got some 3 or 4's in there. But my stance is that women want men at an increasing social status above them. Women who are 7's want men who are 9's but will settle for an 8, and friendzone other 7's.

sabiinvesting · 2022-06-18T16:19:58+00:00

The ones who complain just don’t like their own SMV, and fail to accept their leagues.

Digedag · 2022-06-18T16:24:43+00:00

if you are in places where there are lots of dingle women

Tell us of that mythical place.

TodTheRod01 · 2022-06-18T18:58:07+00:00

i'm not saying it doesnt count....but you are by all accounts going for the low hanging fruit.

AdobiWanKenobi · 2022-06-18T23:32:26+00:00

not a complete shut in

You can have hobbies and interact with people and still not interact with women.

SKY_ACTIV3 · 2022-06-18T20:10:21+00:00

The frustration is because common inherent traits in men (short, bald, ethnic) are considered on par with controllable traits in women (fat, lazy). For a guy who has his shit together, of course he’s gonna be upset that the things holding him back from dating similar women are things he can’t change, and as standards get tighter, more and more men are shifting downwards on the ladder. The incel “Chad or literally nothing” mentality is demonstrably false, but there is a paradigm shift that we should be able to acknowledge.

Is all the anger justified? Eh, it’s not terribly helpful. What is helpful is recognizing that your dating pool is heavily dependent on your cultural environment and your social class. That can help men make more informed decisions instead of just getting frustrated or upset.

Powerful_Cod_4469 · 2022-06-18T16:40:12+00:00

I also like chubby girls even though I could pull more traditionally attractive but I really like them. I don’t feel like I have competition.

saint-g · 2022-06-18T17:52:52+00:00

How old are you?

AcanthocephalaNew947 · 2022-06-18T19:36:53+00:00

I find it hilarious how angry some are at this post.

So many posts are ohhhhh we men we have to have zero standards, while women can date whoever they wannnnt wahhhh

Then the OPer comes in with this gem.

Ew you like fat women!

It’s like the point kicked them in the sack and they still don’t get it.

Drougen · 2022-06-18T20:42:53+00:00

I mean if you're fucking anything that moves, sure. You can go to the bar at closing time and harpoon a whale probably every night.

Key-Selection-522 · 2022-06-18T22:17:44+00:00

I got to agree. I've seen friends do it, I dumped women who have banged ugly ass dudes, especially the ones who were living like trash and had no future. I don't want what that dude can have. You go back to that, that's what you said you're worth lol.

Zerofication · 2022-06-19T09:37:42+00:00

So you're picking leftovers way below your SMV then thinking to yourself that picking up women is easy? Anyone can pick up oldies, fatties, uglies and ho's. All it takes is approaching them and asking for a date.

Lotus_82 · 2022-06-18T20:49:59+00:00

I’m pretty short (5’5) and I’m not particularly good looking but I do have good social skills and I’m good at interpersonal communication / flirting.

And despite being short and on the autism spectrum the social and seduction skills I picked up allowed me to have a great dating / sex life even being very picky about the women I date.

Sometimes I offer to help give advice to the guys on FA / PPD / incel exit subs who post about their lack of success in dating.

Most of the time when I tell them that I’m short and autistic but that I lost my virginity in my teens and that have had a good dating / sex life ever since most guys get angry and downvote me. A few guys always message me but most downvote me and call me an outlier because it’s easier and easier on the ego for some guys to believe that black pill stuff and blame chad and hypergamy.

But I’m always trying to tell dudes that looks are important but that it’s social skills, interpersonal communication skills and confidence that get me laid more than anything else and that they can do the same if they can open up their minds a bit but I’ve honestly been amazed a the hostility of certain guys and how badly certain guys within those specific communities get triggered by reading that some short dudes out there have successful dating / sex lives with high value women despite the “black pill” saying we’re outliers.

Constant_System2298 · 2022-06-18T16:23:56+00:00

A body count of 9 ? Did you put that number out to show us your success rate ? I’m just wondering ??

OrdinaryFarmer · 2022-06-18T16:27:15+00:00

By chubby I assume you mean very overweight/obese. Maybe you are actually into that, chubby chasers do exist. Or maybe because that is all you can get, so you have justified as your taste. Most guys if they were able to get fit women wouldn't ever bother with fat women.

Fat women have much less men going after them, and pretty much no chad, so they are much less picky. Due to the reduced competition, yes less attractive men can get with them. Is it something to celebrate or brag about, no. (not saying you are doing that)

Smitten_Squire · 2022-06-18T17:48:57+00:00

Ur lucky cuz ur attracted to ugly fat girls. Most guys don't have that privilege

PinkPurpleGreenx · 2022-06-18T19:09:21+00:00

I guess you must be fun to be around. Guys on this sub really underestimate how important character is. Women would rather spend time with a fun guy that maybe isn’t the most handsome than a hot guy with 0 personality or straight up rude.

NinjaOfTheSouth · 2022-06-18T16:26:34+00:00

We’ll what your getting is what your league is, chubby women . That’s the reason your not struggling. You realize it.

But most men don’t want that, that’s what you have you account for.

todo_pasa_ · 2022-06-18T22:35:45+00:00

George Constanza? Stavros Halkias?

is that you?

Ian_Campbell · 2022-06-19T11:07:21+00:00

You realize some people are born strongly introverted and cannot hide it right?

listAmbitions · 2022-06-19T21:02:33+00:00

Chubby is great. Probably smooth akin and firm Not like pancake cellulite macdonalds.

Chubby can be curvy as well.

Like people judge ao hard other people and then wonder why noone wants them

I even as a dude dont want to hang out with judgemental mean people. Obviously noone else wants as well.

The9thElement · 2022-06-18T16:27:36+00:00

You are pulling women that are undesirable to many other men or your equals in terms of looks

If you start going for girls that look like they could be models it will be much harder for you

Another thing that’s really helping you is that you are open. A lot of these incel types that complain about not getting girls are not even willing to approach or speak to girls. Which is good, you’re happy

greenifuckation · 2022-06-19T02:54:30+00:00

I know a really unattractive short guy of about 5'5 with a thick short neck & crooked smile. He reminds me of a troll. He lives with his parents & is on minimum wage. Has an average sized D (he sent me it whilst drunk one time lol).

I shit you not he's f'ked every single attractive woman we both know (over 10 of them) & these women are at least an 8/10 & all have slim stunning bodies.

He's not a sugar daddy, he doesn't give them money or buy them things.

A handful of these women fell madly in love with him & he wouldn't commit to them, because they wasn't what he was looking for & he had options.

He ended up with a beautiful blonde woman with a perfect smile & a huge football (soccer) fan like him.

They go & watch games live together, it's so sweet a perfect match.

I tell you why I believe women love him. He has a life, he is happy, he showers daily & wears clean presentable casual clothing & trainers. He brushes his teeth so his breath doesn't smell & his teeth look visibly clean. He can talk to women & behaves in social settings. He can even sit silently in social settings & listen to others without interrupting. No hateful or extreme political views. He pursued women, basically he didn't try to befriend them first, trick them into friendship to get sex or play weird mind games, he never negged women either, he let them know his intentions upfront.

He tried to get with me many times, however I was seeing someone & head over heels in love with this guy, so he had no chance because of the circumstances. Had I not been seeing this guy hmmm who knows.

Looks don't matter.

Kondijote · 2022-06-18T20:44:35+00:00

I’m in good shape and pretty strong though.

So you’re actually getting laid with women who are below you in terms of SMV. Nothing new to see here.

Lots of chubby women(and I know guys are gonna say it doesn’t count because of that) but chubby girls with huge butts are my type. I’ve never really struggled with getting laid.

If you’re able to get laid with women with huge butts, it means that you’re NOT lacking in a very important department. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be able to penetrate them.

You’re not telling us the whole picture: How “short” are you exactly? What’s your ethnicity? What’s the ethnicity of the women you’re having sex with?

Mostly because I’m not a complete shut in. Not really that hard to get laid if you are in places where there are lots of dingle women or of you aren’t afraid of talking to women, which most guys who don’t get sex have an issue with. Just have to know how to have a conversation and be decently funny I think. Ya

This guy has pretty good social skills, yet he gave up asking women out. If you check out his channel, you’ll realize he’s pretty talented too. So what’s his problem? He’s ugly (he seems to have some genetic defect) and very short.

No-Priority7869 · 2022-06-18T17:55:29+00:00

I mean if you’re preaching bottom feeding I don’t think any of us are too proud to admit to that

sarkington · 2022-06-18T18:45:31+00:00

9 is not enough for the dudes here, especially compared to what they think women are getting

ResponsibilityKey427 · 2022-06-18T21:14:18+00:00

Majority of dudes don’t want fat chicks.

They want the gymmed out toned bodies with big tits and ass.

If you can pull that then we can talk, but you are not.

Why?

Because their SMV is just way too high for a 5’6 balding guy.

purplish_possum · 2022-06-18T23:23:10+00:00

A strong muscular in shape guys targeting chubby women is kind of a special circumstance. How much love do you think you'd get from those chubby women if you were short, bald, and fat yourself?

HazyMemory7 · 2022-06-19T01:40:15+00:00

How chubby are we talking? Almost sounds like you have a fat fetish and are using that to argue getting sex isnt hard because you're going for undesirable ones.

mydlo96 · 2022-06-18T16:39:57+00:00

You might have unacttractive masculine traits, some guys look too feminine, some are even mistaken for women, that's a real boner killer for women

melody_of_ · 2022-06-18T19:56:15+00:00

Have you considered that maybe you just posses a strong natural charisma?

DeJuanBallard · 2022-06-18T22:21:26+00:00

That's not only not so much experience that you can use it to discredit the argument yr opposing, you also can't argue with nature, well you can. But you won't win.

OldSimpsonsisbetter · 2022-06-19T02:11:40+00:00

Not really that hard to get laid if you are in places where there are lots of dingle women

Where are these dingle women you speak of?

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learn2earn89 · 2022-06-18T19:52:13+00:00

Thank you for posting. I see short, bald dudes with chicks everywhere. Now they may not be the hottest women out there but they’re still women.

flakybottom · 2022-06-18T22:46:12+00:00

Thats why I say that I'm sexless mostly because of autism. I'm actually into chubby women. But it doesn't mean they are into me.

username_6916 · 2022-06-18T23:48:33+00:00

Where are these places where there are lots of single women and it's considered appropriate to talk to strangers?

NoRefrigerator267 · 2022-06-18T23:49:32+00:00

Good deal. I think I’m just ridiculously stubborn. My mindset is that if I hear that women like stuff that I don’t have (height, attractiveness), then I will not date, at that point. I dunno. It feels like kind of a disservice to both me and them.

Edit: also, no sex. That’s the main thing.

SkookumTree · 2022-06-19T00:06:27+00:00

Autism is much worse than being short and bald. Also if you are going for 400lb women it is a little easier.

january21st · 2022-06-19T12:04:58+00:00

George Castanza vibes

GolD_WhisKy · 2022-06-19T12:06:09+00:00

A body count of 9 is not a lot

listAmbitions · 2022-06-19T21:10:47+00:00

Some people just want to whine, blame, criticize. Who wants to listen to this. Obviously no woman wants to hang out with self-made victims of life. Even a dude does not want to listen to this bullshit. Even a dude does not want to hang out with people like this. And then they avoid their feelings by switching to trolling. And then the cycle goes again. Maturity is sexy. Not the opposite of it.

Go to good therapists. Not the cognitive plapla bullshit. You need to work with emotions, not just talk.

JoeRMD77 · 2022-06-20T14:53:18+00:00

Yeah, mine's 40 and I'm 5'8, rarely weighed less than 200lbs. Too many women just need to be charmed by a funny guy, that's all it takes. Also, staying within your league helps too. Getting the hot ones takes a little luck and alcohol.

I feel like most men who're struggling are just too introverted and I'm an ambivert, so I can be quiet as hell or take over the room. But it's hard to relate to the men that're struggling for me.

elduderino_brown · 2022-06-30T00:49:13+00:00

9? How old are you?

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Lazo5000 · 2022-07-22T06:24:03+00:00

Personally, I care far more about having a relationship with a woman that I am physically attracted to than to simply try to have sex with as many women as possible, because meaningless sex is meaningless while relationships are far more beneficial but it is much more difficult to find a good girlfriend than casual sex, especially when you lack opportunities.

I am not an ugly guy, but I struggle to find women to date because I'm not in school anymore and every job that I ever had never got me any friends, because most guys were either shut ins or were friends with other people who didn't work with us. And all my hobbies are solo.

Title	It’s really not that hard for unattractive guys/guys with typically unattractive traits to get sex from women
Author	Yukbghhjj
Upvotes	67
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Date	June 18, 2022 4:10 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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