It is commonly stated in the ‘manosphere’ that men’s SMV peaks later in life. PPD men over 30, have you actually found your overall value to increase as you’ve gotten older?

AidsVictim · 2023-04-11T07:13:09+00:00

SMV? Depends on the man. A high SMV guy in his 20's will never be beat by his 30's SMV self (at least in relation to prime SMV women). But most men have low or average SMV in their 20's. Some men that work hard on their fitness can have higher SMV in their 30's if they started on the lower end of the market.

What generally improves for men as they age is their social and general "life" competence and women become more serious about getting with their "looks match" as they also age. The result is that many men experience improvements in their dating outcomes as they age. There are pros and cons to this but the optimistic view is that men enjoy a more balanced dating market in their 30's and 40's.

Bandit174 · 2023-04-11T19:30:23+00:00

I recently turned 30 and I feel just as sexually invisible as I did in my 20s.

Ultimately I think it kinda works like this: For women what makes them attractive is common but temporary. For men what makes them attractive is rare but the few men who got lucky enough to have the traits women desire will get to hang on to it for longer.

Basically womens attractiveness is driven by perky fat deposits and youthful skin while mens is driven by things like height jawline, skeletal frame dick size ect. The latter group of traits can last longer than the former so most men will always be sexually invisible but the few men that women lust after can maintain their appeal into their mid 30s

Jazzlike_Worth_9908 · 2023-04-11T06:30:54+00:00

Im 29 yo I absolutely confirm it is easier and much more healthy. Women respond 90% of the time to my first messages , they even engage maybe 10% of the time. They put much more effort into the conversation, no more 3word response unless to indicate absence of interest

I believe it comes from men simping far less. With age we notice those cues of lack of interest (3word replies) and we stop doubling down on dead causes. Ultimately women understand it and arent as lazy and flaky they cant afford it like before they know if they send that lazy ass answer they wont hear from the man again, if they cancel once or maybe twice the first date same thing happen.

Another reason is women are far more confident by this age so they do not need this constant stream of attention and keeping orbiters isnt interesting anymore. It results in having a majority of interactions with women genuinely interested in you instead of a majority of interactions with women seeking an ego boost in late teens early twenties

The last reason that comes to my mind is that relationships become far more valuable by the late twenties. During college there are so many options to have fun you're surrounded with ppl your age you can go to clubs you hang out with your friends all the time you explore yourself your personnality you're influenced by all the tv shows about how these years are insanely good and how one wouldnt want to miss out on that. Relatively speaking a relationship doesnt seem as interesting. On the other hand by late twenties we know what we want we know all this hook up culture and partying isnt all that much after all , most of our friends are now married or on the way to, there are far less events and having someone to share life with then becomes far more valuable.

All these factors combined make a far better dating experience

CalypsoIvashkov · 2023-04-11T07:13:34+00:00

I always knew my value, but my confidence went up when I started dating my current gf.

Do women perceive me differently? - Can't say. I am in a happy relationship, I don't look at other women and I sure as heck don't want to.

I think that this belief is connected with men getting more confident as they grow older, more mature, they learn more about dating (who is interested, who isn't), they have certain aspects to them that show women they can provide for the family (a job, place to live, regular income ....).

Purple_Cruncher_123 · 2023-04-11T15:11:22+00:00

I’d especially like to hear experiences from the single men here.

I (34M) was for the first half last year, so hopefully my answer is still relevant to you.

I’m moving head-long into my 30’s soon, and it’s not been until recently that I actually feel my value as a man is being noticed. I’m actually making decent money now and find that people more regularly come to me for advice. The respect level has been noticeably different compared to my early/mid 20’s.

Really happy for you! It's nice to feel like you're leveling up.

I have SPD & am likely mildly autistic, so I don’t have much dating experience (or interest, for that matter), so I can’t exactly determine how getting older has affected my dating life—there’s nothing to compare it to. So, I’d like to hear from other men how their 20’s differed from their 30’s or 40’s in regards to dating.

Dating definitely gets easier in some ways:

You accumulate experience overall with how the 'dance' goes. You start to notice a cadence to it all. It's teachable to some extent, but it's sort of akin to riding a bike - you ultimately get an intuitive feel for it through trial and error. You start to look back and spot easily obvious blunders that you can correct. And because you have experience, it becomes increasingly mundane. That relieves a lot of uncertainty and anxiety for many people.
It's financially easier. Dating when you don't have much discretionary income is tough. You don't have to splurge, but just having the option to makes for a lot more spontaneity. And at the risk of making it sound wishy-washy, a lot of the 'spark' is about falling into the moment. That's a lot harder to generate when you're counting how many dollars you have left.
Fewer games. While the courting aspects will be there, older people streamline the process and silly things like "don't text back within x hours, you don't want to seem too available" are dropped. You will also get much more straightforward communication about intentions (women are more forthcoming they're looking for serious, if they are when seeing you).
It's less superficial in some ways. Due to said streamlining above, people move quickly. You basically flake out by like date 2 or you get together quick (if that's your endgame. I don't like to waste time). Things like looks become less prevalent because by then most people get a sense of what's truly non-negotiable. For example, women who cannot date a short guy like me (5'3") will not attempt to anymore. Those who are open to it will go out with me. So I don't have to approach nearly so sales-pitchy - I just assume they're inherently interested or we weren't going to even meet up.

All that said, there are some things that become harder as well:

Physical attractiveness is lower on average. People age, they gain weight, etc. Just kind of inevitable. While yes there are some gorgeous people in their 30s, they become rarer by the year.
It feels business-like at times. Part of things becoming less superficial is of course things becoming more practical. You really do need to know if questions about things like kids, or a timeline for marriage, or on the horizons. Women are typically not looking to trial date for 1-2 years any longer. Those who wants a family know they're limited for time and will seek out like-minded partners. Depending on how you answer those questions (and other similar ones), you will filter out and be filtered out with prejudice. Just know it's "personal" but ultimately it's really not.
Baseline expectations are higher. Because you're more accomplished now, expectations from your dates will scale. So if your lifestyle matches 20-year-old you but not 30-year-old you, it will be a turnoff to many. This can range from how much time you spend on entertainment/hobbies, to how you maintain cleanliness, hygiene, handle life responsibilities, etc.

I personally find the pros to be much easier than the cons. Do I miss how much better looking everyone was in their 20s? Sure. Do I miss how much more light-hearted everyone was in their 20s? Sure. But I also love that my g/f now is so much more aligned with me than the hot but flaky ex I had back then. You get and you give.

Ohmaygahh · 2023-04-11T14:22:40+00:00

My "value" objectively has improved. If you're driving at whether my sexual success with women has improved with age, I can tell you point blank, it's night and day. My 20s was sparse, dry, full of all kinds of rejections, big and small.

My 40s has gotten "better" but it's not the panacea I thought it would be. I'm doing infinitely better with women who are slightly below me on the SMV/RMV scale, but my "looks" match are still happily prowling the field. Either they have divorced and going after what they want, chiefly hot younger play things on the down low, or actively cheating on their husbands.

Sexually appealing women who happen to be "single" never truly are. They are having sex with long term friends, checking off bucket list boxes like 3somes and vacay rando sex "eat,pray,love" after breakups and situations like that.

Somehow it still doesn't feel like a win. I'm gaining success because I'm the last decent man standing. Not because I would be their first choice. I honestly would be ok with that if the men women were involved with previous to me were, genuinely great guys. Or have some virtue I do not or cannot possess, or they were this insanely charismatic or really talented guys.

Nine times out of ten, they weren't anything special. Oftentimes they were really ... disappointing guys. Out of shape, socially awkward, poor, ugly personality. And yet it was these guys who succeeded more than I, and that just bothers the fuck out of me.

It's clear every women has their own criteria of who they choose to have sex and relationships with. And often that selection criteria changes as they grow older. But man ... nature is ... it's simply unfair. It is cruelly mercurial. There's no other way of putting it.

And it's so unsatisfying, because I have undergone so many "self improvement" cycles, I am really far away socio-economically from most women. Because of this, I find them so... lacking. Such a disappointment. Such an insult to my face that I grinded hard, and this is my reward? Women with so much baggage, fucking guys at random but making me wait, with divorced moms with foopas the size of basketballs... it's so fucked up.

tio_mio_1999 · 2023-04-11T09:10:52+00:00

I noticed that women are way hornier in their 30s. Their biological clocks tell them to find a guy ASAP.

It also helps if you are not fat, bald, and ha a job. A 39 year-old guy, who is single, not short, not fat, not bald, and has a job, will be swimming in MILF pussy. And these women are really horny.

SecondEldenLord · 2023-04-11T07:19:18+00:00

I myself am 32 and am in the best physical shape in my life and people come to me for advice especially when it comes to fitness. My finances go up and I feel more motivated to do more with my life.

MaximumBrownage · 2023-04-11T08:42:38+00:00

Kinda....? I feel generally more secure dating wise post 30 than I did in my 20s. But I also don't look over 30.

I dont really believe in SMV because that implies it can be quantified as a kind of passive thing. I do things differently than I did at 20. (I dont wait for women to approach me. I go out more. More confidence in general. I work out more and groom better.)

Financially though I have less time. I dated more in my 20's because I had more free time to do it in.

Also men and women in their early 20's have a lot more drama and bullshit going on and the further you put yourself from that both in your social and dating life the more simple life is.

LoopyPro · 2023-04-11T11:37:16+00:00

Looks, money, and status dictate male SMV.

It's obvious that looks will fade with age, peaking at mid 20s. But money and status can be gained over time with hard work. A guy in his 20s has spent less time to gain money and status compared to a guy in his 30s, so it's likely that the guy in his 30s will have better chances. If you do the work and keep yourself in decent shape, I reckon that overall SMV could be higher in a man's 30s.

grown_folks_talkin · 2023-04-11T13:18:12+00:00

Yes. Even though we might be in our physical primes at 24, women don’t really see us as in our prime until 28-31 and that can last for some time.

Dating as a 21-26M was basically hard mode for me and my peers. Way easier for me at 30, I may be just on the other side myself, but if I peaked it was at 40 or so. 45M.

CommunicationNo9896 · 2023-04-11T13:48:25+00:00

Yes, but no.

Let me explain. If I exercised and ate better when young, I would be more successful as young man, but I didn't. I started that later in life, so now I'm more successful.

Men usually mature later.

lwfstryc9 · 2023-04-11T06:54:48+00:00

I've found getting women has gotten easier with age. I'm 44. Honestly, I have no idea if it's because women like old men's looks, their perceived value, or my confidence (I'm much more sure of myself than in my younger years, but I still suffer from severe insecurity sometimes). If you have no interest, just keeping building yourself up.

JakeArcher39 · 2023-04-11T08:11:35+00:00

The main thing is about respect, and perception of masculinity. Men who are 30 or going into their 30s, are simply going to be perceived in a different way by women, to men in their early to mid or even late 20s. Younger men are seen as less serious, less experienced, less confidence and less capable overall, by virtue of their youth.

Of course, maturity is a sliding scale. When I first started work at 21, I came across some 30 year olds who in many ways were even more immature than I was, however, people just generally tended to approach them and respond to their advice and comments different, because of the perception of a 30 year old man vs a 21 year old 'boy'.

However, it's not a guaranteed outcome for men. Whilst men are generally seen as more masculine as they enter their 30s, this doesn't necessarily correlate to them being more attractive overall, or having better dating success. The 30 year old guy who works some dead-end job, dresses like a slob, plays video games for hours each day, and hasn't even looked at a pair of weights for the last 12 years, isn't going to magically start becoming more appealing to women just because his age now starts with a '3' and not a '2'.

It still ultimately depends on 1) your genetics, and 2) your lifestyle.

NotARussianBot1984 · 2023-04-11T10:51:55+00:00

No, it's always hard to date hot college girls, no matter my age.

MasterTeacher123 · 2023-04-11T11:16:50+00:00

I get better looking girls on average and consistently score at higher rates now in my 30’s than when I did in my 20’s and I did fine back then.

The men in my circle feel the same way, none of them would want to go back to college or HS days.

Infammo · 2023-04-11T13:47:11+00:00

My "sexual" market value has not changed, no. Women make it obvious that I'm far more desirable as a romantic partner now than I was in my twenties but I'm not regarded as any more sexually attractive than I was back then.

DoinIt989 · 2023-04-11T19:44:02+00:00

I just turned 30, and I'd say dating has definitely gotten easier compared to when I was in my early 20s. It's less about "SMV" per se. I look basically the same as I did when I was 21, just with more stray grey hairs. The difference is mostly experience. Dating for men is skill based. When you get older, you stop "giving a fuck", and you're better at playing the game. There were plenty of women interested in me at 21, plenty interested now, but it's simply easier to "pull the trigger" as an older guy.

Plus once you hit your mid, late 20s, you can still date younger women, but women in their 30s/40s become more of an option. And older women are just easier - they're more forward, somewhat less neurotic.

PlayHardGoBroke · 2023-04-11T08:37:35+00:00

Im 31 and I have become exponentially more successful over time. It really is true than when it rains it pours. Never really struggled with women but until 26-27 I would have to work way harder to get just a 6-7, then it started to change due to a combination of things. 1- I lookmaxx and became more physically attrative. From a 6 to a 7.5-8 (massive treatment diff) 2- Career wise/Status | back then I was just another broke young guy whereas now I’ve got a great career and cool lifestyle going

It’s interesting though that although I think point #2 is where I stand out harder vs average male my age, in reality, the main think keeps being down to looks, social value I don’t think it plays that big of a role if you just want something casual

wub1234 · 2023-04-11T07:40:35+00:00

For the OP: what I would encourage you to do is simply be positive. There is no doubt that my dating prospects improved as I got older, but I do think attitude is critically important. If I date someone now, I think: "she would be lucky to have me". If she's not interested then I genuinely don't care, and certainly don't take it personally.

It seems that we are all encouraged nowadays to say that we have this condition or that condition; I would lean away from that and lean into your qualities. Focus on what you can offer and what you bring to the table that is unique. Women are just people - some of them are into you, and some of them are not into you. If they're not into you, it's their loss.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2023-04-11T15:49:04+00:00

In your 30's it gets better with less attractive women (35+) but harder with more attractive women (18-24).

TheRedPillRipper · 2023-04-11T09:02:40+00:00

20’s differed from their 30’s

First I never really struggled in my 20’s. I did however want a family. So personally the biggest difference in my 30’s; was dating with intention. As opposed to just aimlessly dating. Or casually dating.

Another factor was time. In my 20’s I balled, studied, and worked. So I dated around my schedule. A decade later, I no longer to had to work. Which made a huge difference. So that’s what I would recommend. Being financially set up, makes everything else so much easier. Being jacked too. I’ve always been ‘a social butterfly’, so presumably that helped a ton too.

Godspeed and good luck!

UneastAji · 2023-04-11T09:17:20+00:00

I'm not single. And I can't talk of overall SMV including money and status.

But overall women seemed most interested in me between 28 and 32, which coincides with when I had a fully formed beard and looked most like a man. Though I suspect I've been attracting eyes less since due to weight gain.

ComfortableOk5003 · 2023-04-11T16:24:29+00:00

I get more attention in my 30s than I did in my 20s easily

Part of it is I dress better, have a different look (facial hair, etc) I’ve always been fit minus bulking seasons lol obviously money/career wise better off.

I’ve also read more and been around/travelled more had some adventures.

I do find one thing that has not changed, I am still more popular with non white women. Not sure why, I am white, but have been told I could pass for leb, Italian, Jewish.

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2023-04-11T16:29:22+00:00

Looks and charisma/social skills take time to improve, but those can be improved way before your 30s, so those are out of the equation.

So your value increases with age, in your 30s, only if you achieve a decently high degree of success, let's say being a doctor. The title of doctor gives you instant status, respect and prestige. Plus average salary of a doctor is like 300k, so that puts them in the top 5% of earners or something.

The caveat is that it will only tip the scales significantly in your favor for the ladies that are looking to get married. Statistically most single women are starting to date intentionally for marriage after 25-26. There are younger women who might be, but they are not the majority in my opinion.

JoeRMD77 · 2023-04-11T16:33:52+00:00

I would say all the drunken booty calls I got off Facebook definitely came after I was about 33. These were women from high school whose options were dwindling but I finally got called up for a night or two.

Ohyarlysmiles · 2023-04-11T16:48:11+00:00

Yes.

A lot.

stuckmeformypaper · 2023-04-11T17:56:53+00:00

Yes. I'm simply put a more desirable man now, save for a few gray hairs and a couple wrinkles. Not sure how that's just some mano-swamp thing. If you're not a more confident, stable, secure man in your late 20s/early 30s than you were before, I'm not exactly sure what you're doing.

But then again I own a home that's properly furnished, my only roommate is my four-legged wingman, and I can still go all night as easily as ever before. And I never feel the need to brag about that with women I'm courting, I carry myself in a manner where their intuition picks up on it.

KirthWGersen · 2023-04-11T06:23:17+00:00

Each decade of life I have found dating to be easier because the women around me have generally matured.

You can get away with a lot of bad behaviour and poor character when you are young and beautiful. As those advantages fade, a woman has to offer other positives to get a relationship. While some can't or won't, most do.

Spyro7x3 · 2023-04-11T09:02:24+00:00

Absolutely and craziest part is that money isn’t a factor I actually made more in my mid 20s than I do now I got divorced lost everything and adopted a minimal life started chilling with my artist friend’s all the time and got girls left and right.

The same young girls that date bums their age will date old bums like me too I swear on my dog

If ppd saw the girls I’ve gotten with (they all pursued me) they would be red hot lol

At 32 I cohabited with the most drop dead 23 yo girl I’ve ever seen in my life till this day

Extra-Confection-706 · 2023-04-11T08:06:17+00:00

It Will improve if you improve in status and money or just one of that. Many women in their prime look out for this. Not everyone is going for the Hot guys without money.

Also It Will improve if you go for women your age because they Will know their prime is over and Will be more friendly and open towards beta bux guys.

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wtknight · 2023-04-11T12:25:03+00:00

I found that I could attract more women because I could attract a greater age range, so I suppose somewhat. But most young women aren’t into older men. I believe that there is truth in the half plus seven rule when it comes to female attraction.

gymbronyc718 · 2023-04-11T10:48:17+00:00

It's not my value per se, but as I have gotten older I care less about other's opinions of me. I just care less and give way less fucks and have also developed zero tolerance for bullshit. It makes walking away from bad relationships and people very easy. In a way it gives me an immense power because I can take it or leave it. For some reason, this seems to attract many women both much younger and older than I.

Stunning_Thing4208 · 2023-04-11T06:53:20+00:00

Absolutely yes. It's gotten better and better

farm_hand_7 · 2023-04-11T10:45:04+00:00

Yes, with some caveats. It depends on the group. Some young girls see me as too old, some are all about it. I never knew how many bored housewives wanted to cheat until I hit my 30s.

Barely-moral · 2023-04-11T11:32:21+00:00

have you actually found your overall value to increase as you’ve gotten older?

Yes. Not because of age. Because of money and skills that need time to develop.

ThisBoringLife · 2023-04-11T11:38:22+00:00

I'd say I've found more success on the apps and such as I've gotten older, so yeah.

MortalWombat83 · 2023-04-11T12:23:37+00:00

Financially..yes Physique..yes Looks...slight improvement on a shitshow

AreOut · 2023-04-11T12:38:09+00:00

I am 40 now and it still increases. But I am a late bloomer, I guess most men peak somewhere in their 30s.

None0fYour8usiness · 2023-04-11T13:52:15+00:00

As someone approaching 30 my dating prospects have completely evaporated, even though my value increased, though not by much.

Maybe when the housing market eventually crashes and I snag a tolerable apartment I'll be in a better position.

JSears90210 · 2023-04-11T14:25:56+00:00

Yes. Completely.

Also how women view me. When I was in my mid 20s to 30 women were interested in casual and hooking up. But not a relationship. Once I hit mid 30s I was constantly getting the where is this going talk from any women who were FWB or hook ups. I also had a much larger pool of potential partners. From mid 30s to early 20s when I was in my mid to late 30s.

Coolio_Street_Racer · 2023-04-11T14:58:58+00:00

I'm 24 M and I honestly worry about the future. I feel most women are the most promiscious in their earlier years like around college time. When they get to my age they start to get more picky and relationship oriented. Which makes causal sex much harder to come by. I feel this is only going to get worse as I age and alot of the older men here are capping about their success.

I've come to terms with missing out on those earlier years when I felt most of my peers got a bulk of their sexual experiences and I'm just trying to make the most of the time I got left.

Head-Language-2977 · 2023-04-11T15:29:17+00:00

(42M) I don’t think it’s so much mens SMV peaking, but more that women’s SMV falls more rapidly than mens, which results in dating being easier for men as we get older and our SMVs get closer to matching.

Sad_Top1743 · 2023-04-11T15:34:47+00:00

For me and most of my friends, yes. One of them was in a frat and can’t pull the same quantity anymore but that’s more because he’s out of college and not in a frat.

Late 20’s is when you start to get more play, I had nothing in my early 20s lol

Sad_Top1743 · 2023-04-11T15:37:48+00:00

For me and most of my friends, yes. One of them was in a frat and can’t pull the same quantity anymore but that’s more because he’s out of college and not in a frat.

Late 20’s is when you start to get more play, I had nothing in my early 20s lol most women chase chads up until mid to late 20’s

HighestTierMaslow · 2023-04-11T16:16:08+00:00

My personal opinion is that both men and women improve or degrade rapidly going from their 20s to 30s. Some people, women and men, earn more, become more fit/take care of their health more, become more mature, self confident and emotionally intelligent (arguably the most important intelligence needed for relationships). All three of these things improve their dating life. Despite what men say on here, alot of women enjoy dating more in their 30s. Me personally, my life just began when I turned 30. I look at my life in my 20s and think "what the heck was I doing?" According to you all, I was in my prime and should have been loving life. I met my husband in my late 20s, got married when I was 30.5.

There are also some men and women who are the opposite: they make poor decisions financially and socially, dont take care of themselves/dont age well, dont personally evolve in their personality, character and habits.

I went to a highschool reunion recently. I graduated almost 15 years ago. There were both men and women in each group. Many popular people I couldnt stand look way worse than me, have entry level jobs soon, multiple divorces, clearly very bitter etc. More average teenagers like me blossomed at every level now in their 30s. When Ive run into people from highschool, several have bluntly said Im 10x prettier. Some of the hot rude jerks looked aged as crap. Probably the drugs, tanning and drinking for years on end.

JumboJetz · 2023-04-11T16:29:41+00:00

Yes I have vastly more dating success in my 30s.

Boxisteph · 2023-04-11T16:56:17+00:00

25 - 40 is the sweet spot. Grown into your body, have some responsibility in your life and a vision for the future and are reasonably fit and non-wrinkled.

Obviously not all men, some have learning difficulties, have addictions, hair line and beer belly comes in the 20s etc.

Kobe_curry24 · 2023-04-11T17:20:58+00:00

Yes value does Increase as you get older duh if your learning staying up in your health testing your values , your cultural settings this is a no brainer your going to improve but if you don’t do Shit and just ruin your life of course not

DeepHouseDJ007 · 2023-04-11T18:24:51+00:00

I’ve had a successful dating / sex lode since my teens and it’s been pretty constant, except for my big “hoe phase” in college and the few years afterwards but things have stayed fond since I turned 30 because I’ve kept an athletic body, I still have good social skills, I’m fun to be around and since college I’ve lived and worked in a bunch of different countries and I find that women are attracted to that as well (the culture, the “laptop lifestyle”, etc..).

But I would disagree that most men have better SMV after thirty because most of them age like shit. Most men over thirty I see have receding hairlines / balding, don’t have an athletic body / have chubby bellies, are boring to be around because they’re stuck in the 9 to 5 cycle working for some company they don’t really like..

So I would say that for the guys who managed to keep their good looks, their good bodies, are exciting to be around, etc, it’s gotten easier because of how a lot of guys can’t compete anymore.

And then there’s the poor shmucks who couldn’t really get laid earlier in life who count on the fact that they now have money to attract the kind of women who aren’t dating them because they find them attractive, but hey they don’t care because before they weren’t getting laid at all..

bodaciousbonsai · 2023-04-11T19:08:31+00:00

Yep. Mid to late 30s is when I was getting more action than the entirety of all my previous years. And not just by a little bit, but multiple times over.

SwaySh0t · 2023-04-11T19:26:01+00:00

Slight increase, my dating/hookup life in my 20’s was better than most and 30’s are shaping up much better and effortless

lolthankstinder · 2023-04-11T19:48:52+00:00

I’ve been the same dang person since 18 but the attractiveness in interested women slowly grew over time. For me the tipping point was 27 where I started getting actual chances and interest from attractive women. I ended up becoming casual with someone and we just slowly fell for each other modern Hallmark movie style. Based on my experiences, I think men’s SMV definitely grows over time and women need to “date down” when they’re younger to find a guy that will be “comparable” across time.

ryboto · 2023-04-11T20:13:17+00:00

I dunno...just recently divorced at 39...so I hope so? In the best shape of my life, earning the most I've ever earned and on a path to financial freedom. Also have a decently supportive social circle. All of this suggests my smv should be decent but I haven't gotten out there yet, just apps.

Hopefully the apps aren't anything to go by....

mikehawk1988 · 2023-04-11T20:17:08+00:00

Since I don't like showing off with my money and achievements, not really. I rather stay true to my values and prefer attracting women with the same values. It's also way cooler when people get to know your true self by chance. Showing off is lame.

jrjr_analyst · 2023-04-11T22:23:45+00:00

I’m actually making decent money now and find that people more regularly come to me for advice. The respect level has been noticeably different compared to my early/mid 20’s.

Pretty much this. While I've visibly weathered as I near 40 (salt and pepper, a bit more jowly), it's become notably easier to hold frame during uncomfortable conversations with colleagues and strangers. As such, I've gone from getting cold-shouldered at bars to having female colleagues ask me if I'm seeing anyone and then whip out their phone to show me pictures of their single them.

Lifting and CICO has helped a lot.

FlyV89 · 2023-04-11T22:48:12+00:00

I'm currently 33 years old.

https://ibb.co/7rn5wSX

And I'm not planing to get worst any time soon.

Find me a dude who's better off, smarter, wiser, in better shape and knows what he's doing in the sack who's also a decade younger, and I'll stop dating 20 something years old girls, take a 33 years old woman with four kids and settle down for the rest of my life.

Next question.

TurtleDickSlap · 2023-04-12T00:52:27+00:00

My life fucking rocks at 40.

I'm fitter, more financially secure, more refined, more self-aware, more confident and just overall better than I have ever been at any point in my life.

Zestyclose_Orchid573 · 2023-04-12T09:59:04+00:00

Absolutely, the problem that people don’t mention is that when you’re single for a long time it get addictive. Could I get a date in my 20s? No chance lol - now in my 40s I literally have to reject women because I’m not interested anymore. That’s life I guess.

odd_cloud · 2023-04-12T14:41:29+00:00

To a degree I think.

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