Its things like this that really Piss me off...

jpaul3211 · 2013-01-19T16:46:06+00:00

They portray a gay couple but not a lesbian one. This is how deep it's ingrained into our culture.

sibqm_lmvm · 2013-01-19T17:16:59+00:00

Whew! Glad to know that I, as a woman, am entirely incapable of raping! That's a relief! Now, when I force my boyfriend to have sex with me, I can tell him that he's not being raped since only men are rapists! /sarcasm

I hate these posters. -_- Women already think that most men are after sex no matter what. We don't need shit like this.

Chrisisawesome · 2013-01-19T16:37:41+00:00

My response to all of those: no fucking shit.

MechPlasma · 2013-01-19T16:11:58+00:00

Along with everyone else.

Sorry, but the "Rape can be stopped by just telling people not to rape" attitude is so common nowadays that everyone's already aware of this bullcrap.

BAXterBEDford · 2013-01-19T18:47:17+00:00

Have women pay for their own meals. Why should the guy be paying for it in the first place?

occupythekitchen · 2013-01-19T21:12:10+00:00

you know what's bullshit is the top left one happened to me and she still went around saying I raped her but luckily her friend told me she was spreading it.

I went up to her and said, do you remember last night? Do you remember what happened? You left with me we kissed in my bed and we started having sex when you told me to stop. What did I do after that?

"You stopped"

SO why are you saying I raped you when you don't even have a bruise or anything in your body.....

"Because I didn't want to do it"

Well it's hard to think that when you are taking my pants off

kjadfaf · 2013-01-19T16:40:32+00:00

I see that and raise you: http://www.wastedsex.com/resources/quiz.html

also see the FAQs

kehlder · 2013-01-19T17:43:37+00:00

so when he changed his mind, I STOPPED.
so when he was drunk, I BACKED OFF.
so when I paid for the date, HE DIDN'T OWE ME.

ayyobitch · 2013-01-19T20:14:20+00:00

This is retarded. The only one I kind of agree with is the last, if a guy doesn't let me pay for my meal, I don't owe him sex, I just owe him a meal on/if the next date. But even if he does expect that it's not his fault if she says "oh hey you paid for me I owe you sex" that's not rape, that's just a negotiation lol.

misingnoglic · 2013-01-19T19:26:27+00:00

Women should be pissed off about this too, implying that they aren't strong at all =P

SirDerpingtonThe3rd · 2013-01-19T20:16:03+00:00

This shit reminds me of something I did as a kid:

When I was little, I took Taekwondo. When we would spar (fight), hits to the back were illegal and would be a penalty. So, one day, I came up with the strategy to basically turn my back to my opponent and charge them so if they hit me, it would be a penalty, but I could still hit them with a kick or a punch.

This is what these scenarios are like. According to these scenarios, by drinking so much as a beer, a woman can do anything sexual she wants and blame it on "being drunk" and then accuse the guy of rape even if she initiated because "omg, I was drunk!". So, she can get the sex she wants and then deny wanting it if she needs to later to "save face".

Of course, the real problem is slut shaming (mostly from female peers probably), but that's no excuse to allow this shield of "omg I was drunk and therefore not responsible for my actions". Drunk drivers sure as shit get nailed to the wall, why is sex any different?

johndeer89 · 2013-01-19T20:40:31+00:00

These kind of PSAs are exactly why I joined this subreddit in the first place.

Greyfeld · 2013-01-19T19:09:19+00:00

I want to see one that says:

So when she said no, I stopped. Then she called me a pussy and threw me out of her house.

Quatroking · 2013-01-19T21:50:14+00:00

Hey feminists, pretty sexist to consider women incapable of stopping rape, isn't it?

doctorcrowbar · 2013-01-19T20:16:00+00:00

Devil's advocate here. These used to bother me more, but now the only parts that really irk me are the "men can stop rape" and the lack of certain cases of rape. The problem, obviously, is that we each only control our own actions, and have at best a rather tenuous influence over others. The correct part of this campaign is that each man can choose not to be a rapist in his own person; the incorrect part is just that same fact, that men can only choose to not be rapists in their own person, and cannot directly (or even indirectly sometimes) alter the chosen actions of rapists.

Some have referred to the implication that this campaign must be saying that women can't be strong and weak at the same time. Well, how about emotional/intellectual strength versus brute physical strength? Some chicks can be super strong of course, but the point is that men are typically significantly stronger than women physically, and therefore can physically overpower them. It's an anti-rape campaign afterall, and rape is an act that usually includes physically overpowering the victim (Druggings are a good counterexample to my point, but I digress...)

I do have a positive thing to point out as well. The inclusion of the gay couple at least indicates that men can be victims of rape too. The complete lack of the possibility of females raping males or females raping females is, I must say, disappointing and a major oversight.

So, there it is. It's not the worst fucking thing in the world, and actually is somewhat right about things, but it misses quite a bit at the same time and is therefore, overall, sort of misleading.

DrDerpberg · 2013-01-19T21:46:43+00:00

I've seen this before, and it just occurred to me that for the gay couple, "I" becomes "we". As if not having sex when he doesn't want to is a "we" thing, but when she doesn't want it it's an "I" thing.

Sometimes it really infuriates me how the supposedly pro-female camp seems to objectify women more than the biggest misogynist around. Even when they portray victims of horrible things, the female is depicted as unable to make any decision or take any action but the male victim somehow shares responsibility for "we" not having sex.

citrusonic · 2013-01-19T19:53:29+00:00

It'd be nice to see one with a girl that says "when he was passed out, I didn't try to fuck him"

Just_Brad · 2013-01-20T01:42:29+00:00

If a woman gets drunk and has regrettable sex with another woman, who is the rapist?

Is it:

A.) The woman's nearest male neighbor?

B.) The woman's landlord (if male)?

C.) The bartender (if male)?

or

D.) The Patriarchy!

GltyUntlPrvnInncnt · 2013-01-19T21:01:38+00:00

What a surprise...there are no female "perps" at all on these posters.

Anzereke · 2013-01-19T21:44:38+00:00

I find this whole strength thing pretty baffling.

I mean isn't that part insulting women? So you'd think we could all agree these are sexist against everyone...

Roddy0608 · 2013-01-19T19:36:07+00:00

Louis CK.

2013-01-19T22:09:58+00:00

Wow, holy shit good thing I just saw that poster in time. Now I know not to rape anyone.

This poster literally portrays raping your SO as the default scenario. It apparently takes a specific, conscientious decision NOT to rape each time.

hopemarieb · 2013-01-19T19:10:31+00:00

I have seen one of these where it was about female-perpetrated assault (and it might have even been linked on this sub, who knows where I saw it).

SuperUppercut · 2013-01-19T19:33:23+00:00

Feminists support female-on-male rape. They are the rape apologists.

Anzereke · 2013-01-19T19:51:39+00:00

What I find to be a clear ideological contradiction with Feminism is the idea that women can be strong and independent, whilst simultaneously being weak and vulnerable. Surely one can't be both?

Personally, I think Feminist posters such as this simply read ''Collective Guilt, Collective Guilt, Collective Guilt''.

Tnuff · 2013-01-19T19:59:41+00:00

she didn't OWE ME

I'm seeing red

Tetha · 2013-01-19T21:29:45+00:00

I've pretty much given up on the rape, rape prevention and whatever debate. No one understands criminals, no one understands crime prevention vs victim blaming, no one understands in-relationship-rape, no one understands female rape and no one thinks about drunk-on-drunk-double-rape-wombo-combo. It's a fucking shame.

2013-01-19T19:03:50+00:00

All the couples match except for the interracial gay guys.

Andoo · 2013-01-19T23:14:10+00:00

Can we make one with just a bunch of gay couples and then really highlight how men can stop rape. It just would be so funny to have the saying without any women in it.

herpal · 2013-01-19T23:33:55+00:00

Although it might not be the best campaign and the affects of these sort of campaign in general are questionable, I don't see anything wrong with this. Yes, there are women guilty of rape and there are male victims. An yes, there should be raised awareness for that. But why are these 4 posters offensive? There are men out there that do commit these acts. And a lot of men could stop a lot of rapes. It doesn't specify that men could stop rape entirely.

MiniMosher · 2013-01-20T00:33:30+00:00

love the token gay couple

remember rapists and generally evil fuckers, it's not nice to rape! OK think that message got to them, lets pack up and go home folks.

herbandmargie · 2013-01-20T03:18:28+00:00

On NPR the other day some feminist mentioned the men can stop rape bullshit. Her comment?... " I don't think we focus on the male aspect of sexual assault, too often we think of rape as a womans issue. It is time that fathers start talking to their sons about rape, it should be a part of their relationship"

..... I am paraphrasing but I am also pretty accurate.

Of course the liberal moonbats at NPR ate that shit up with a spoon.

Faryshta · 2013-01-20T06:40:25+00:00

If I pay for a dinner to someone then that someone owes me a dinner.

cheio · 2013-01-20T07:00:24+00:00

So why do they add a "so" every time? So is this very cool recently? So maybe they should also add "like" a couple of times, maybe I'd buy it then.

silferkanto · 2013-01-19T19:36:15+00:00

You can infer that women aren't strong enough. There also imitating themselves

Dornath · 2013-01-19T22:17:01+00:00

The top two, I honestly don't have a problem with. There's should probably be a female version of those two. They both address important issues of consent.

The bottom two? Fuck off. Those are just insulting. I've never felt that a woman OWED me anything if I pay for a meal or something. And the bottom left is just... infuriating.

MadKat88 · 2013-01-20T01:10:05+00:00

I was okay until the last panel. Where the fuck does money come into it?!

2013-01-20T01:21:37+00:00

I know it's not significant, but I do find it interesting that the only interracial couple is the gay one. It's Asian+Asian, Caucasian + Caucasian.

LulzGoat · 2013-01-20T03:26:37+00:00

What the heck does splitting the bill have to do with rape? Seriously.

scottevil110 · 2013-01-20T03:28:40+00:00

I remember seeing a sign in college on the bus that said "94% of OU Men agree that a woman has a right to say no." This only made me wonder..."Did 6% of people essentially say that rape is kind of ok?"

But seriously, this is more of the Facebook plague. "If we spread awareness, then we've done something to help!"

bunker_man · 2013-01-20T04:04:34+00:00

I love how gays are 1% of the population, but it's more pressing to stop what must be an epidemic of rape of a guy to another guy than it is to stop any rape of any kind being done by females, which clearly doesn't happen.

Sindibadass · 2013-01-20T05:29:58+00:00

"My gun is not for mugging"-

                    So when he/she refused to let me borrow their cellphone because I was out of minutes, I didnt point the gun to their head and demand they give me all their money

N64Overclocked · 2013-01-20T11:03:39+00:00

"She told me she didn't want to go any further. So I stopped." "She got angry when I stopped pressuring her because she said it makes her feel unwanted and she likes the attention."

procom49 · 2013-01-20T11:22:48+00:00

I'm so glad that gay couple didn't rape eachother at the same time.

2013-01-27T23:47:46+00:00

That pisses me off too. Of course she owes him

Kdog60564 · 2013-01-19T19:17:29+00:00

Not to mention they have the typical Asian couple, but the only interracial couple is the gay one.

MSILE · 2013-01-19T22:28:20+00:00

Ofcourse you owe someone if he/she pays for the date!!!

M_Aguilar · 2013-01-19T22:50:52+00:00

Well the advert seems aimed at men not women. The tag line is "men can stop rape"

AnAdultWoman · 2013-01-19T23:23:11+00:00

What I find to be a clear ideological contradiction with Feminism is the idea that women can be strong and independent, whilst simultaneously being weak and vulnerable. Surely one can't be both?

I don't see any cognitive dissonance depending on how you define strong, independent, weak and vulnerable.

A soldier (male or female*) can be strong - and well armed - but still be vulnerable because of hazards like bombs, snipers or the sheer number of enemies.

A person and be independent but have a weakness for their significant other or their children or their parents or their friends or their comrades in war.

I think most adults are all of the above.**

*Consider the Israeli army, they have men and women and the women still manage to kick ass.

**adult being loosely defined as being somewhat rational, emotionally stable at the time, and a generally biased view towards actual reality.

Macksimum · 2013-01-20T00:33:36+00:00

Encouraging people not to rape is a good thing....

2013-01-20T17:09:07+00:00

I don't see a problem - each photo seems to portray two pussies.

Volcris · 2013-01-19T18:36:34+00:00

I'm not prepared for the adult world.

FEMINISM

I'm afraid I might have to work for a living.

PATRIARCHY

I need a scapegoat for my insecurities.

MISANDRY

Veteran4Peace · 2013-01-20T00:00:44+00:00

Why does that "piss you off"? There are far too many men out there who take advantage of drunk women, or feel like a woman owes them sexual favors after they buy her a meal.

If you're not one of those guys then these posters don't apply to you so why get pissed off about them?

kjadfaf · 2013-01-19T16:37:59+00:00

That they didn't rape? What the fuck. You get pissed off that they didn't rape? The fuck is wrong with you?

Title	Its things like this that really Piss me off...
Author	Imblaci
Upvotes	612
Comments	251
Date	January 19, 2013 2:56 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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