N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-09-02T15:29:29+00:00

I've never seen an unhappy promiscuous woman.

I've seen plenty of unhappy virgins or limited experience men.

sine120 · 2023-09-02T06:02:10+00:00

Whether you like it or not, approve of it or not; most guys care. A good chunk of women care. History isn't just history, it's hints for the future. If you're number 1 or 2, you're more likely to stay 1 or 2 than if you're 31 or 32. Exes are baggage and people are jealous creatures. Call it insecurity if you want, I've never seen a metric for higher counts being correlated with relational happiness or longevity.

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-09-01T02:52:54+00:00

My singles friends and I made a bet to see who could get the most new casual sex by NYE.

2 of them have been divorced within the last 5 years.

We made a money pool and everything! Lol

ModernCoquette · 2023-08-31T17:26:23+00:00

Q4M: Realistically, how should a woman's sex drive operate?

We get it. Most men would prefer a woman be an innocent virgin until the mighty power of his penis unlocks the insatiable sexual goddess within. For this exercise, we are going to categorize that as not realistic. Consider this independent of yourself, because she is a whole person with a sex drive prior to meeting you. What kind of sex drive do you seek in a partner? Men seem to overall have a higher sex drive, surely a woman that matches that higher sex drive is desirable. Her higher sex drive would lead to her initiating more. It would lead to feeling loved and validated by your partner. Men repeatedly claim they want to be with a woman who enjoys and desires sex. And yet because this high sex drive woman is also more likely to have a higher body count, some men want to scream from the rooftop how unworthy she is as a partner. I genuinely don't understand.

baresquad · 2023-08-29T22:20:53+00:00

This entire topic centers around mens fear of a woman their romantically interested in, having sex with someone with a bigger dick in her past. They lack confidence but they mask it with bullshit excuses like pair bonding and calling it an indicator for predicting future behavior when choosing their partners. Couple lack of confidence with the common misconception that a big dick automatically equals amazing sex and this is what we get.

I was there as a teenager in high school as most were. The idea of dating a girl who’s had sex or a reputation for having sex used to be terrifying. We attached so many useless connotations to sex back then. That’s why it’s easy to detect the obvious denial that so many dudes are living in.

harmonica2 · 2023-08-29T21:14:07+00:00

I feel like both genders should care about n count because men as well have baggage from past women, and it goes both ways.

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-08-29T20:41:12+00:00

Let's talk numbers, what's high, what's low, what's average or normal?

22 year old, female, 15 partners

22 year old, male, 15 partners

35 year old, female, 35 partners

35 year old, male, 35 partners

25 year old female, 5 partners

25 year old male, 5 partners

30 year old, female 8 partners

30 year old, male 8 partners

Maffioze · 2023-08-29T11:29:31+00:00

Caring about n-count is not inherently sexist.

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-08-28T19:40:47+00:00

I love these strong opinions from men who wouldn't even know a "high n count" woman if she looked at him.

SeveralSadEvenings · 2023-08-28T18:24:09+00:00

The one and only high N count woman I know was a 4'11" pawg that joined the army, met her Mandingo husband on deployment (she had a preference), came back to the states and posted up in Texas, popped out a few kids, and is living that suburban mom life.

To be honest she wasn't even that pretty, but she was confident and firey (aka diagnosed bpd) and dudes just couldn't get enough of her.

For all the doom n gloom about high N count women, she seems to be doing alright.

MasterTeacher123 · 2023-08-28T12:48:04+00:00

I remember a girl told me sex on vacation doesn’t count. I was dying lol

Cethlinnstooth · 2023-08-28T10:57:31+00:00

The best way to keep a low n count is to think men are garbage.

Opening_Pattern_301 · 2023-08-28T10:48:08+00:00

hoes really cant take rejection, any guy who rejects them must be some evil mysoginist who deserves to die, men and women tend to handle rejection different, whats there to be said

If you want a low n woman then level up as a man so you can have acces to something better than the leftovers of the casual sex world, thats the truth, btw ignore all the triggered bpd crazies who say you will die alone because of that, thats just them taking rejection poorly, caring or not caring about that really doesnt has any influence in your dating life, theres loads of incels who would hap`pily wine and dine a promiscuous hoe but them hoes dont want those guys cuz guess what? they just arent attractive enough, but they consider them the perfect nice guy to settle down in their 30s, point is, i dont see no promiscuous hoe pricing guys for not caring about body count so really all this slander and personal attacks hoes throw at guys for caring about it is just desperate attempts to protect their fragile egos and damage a guy's social standing, nothing else.

begayallday · 2023-08-28T05:12:13+00:00

If all the things that have made it difficult for me to date, N count isn’t one of them.

Bandit174 · 2023-08-28T02:31:01+00:00

On the Whatever podcast the host will often ask the women guests if they think sexual history matters and to no one's surprise they usually say no it should not. My favorite part is when the host later says something like "ok but what if a guy has a high bodycount but half of the people he slept with were other men" and the look on the womens faces is priceless. And then they try to hamster around why it's ok for them to get an ick about bisexual men but not for men to get an ick over their pasts.

Similarly they usually say they wouldn't date an inexperienced man or a man who has paid sexworkers.

ilovesoundtracks1 · 2023-08-28T00:25:34+00:00

Used goods.

social_mules_alt · 2023-08-27T21:10:52+00:00

Can we have an autism weekly discussion thread? Not because I want to discuss autism but because I want the folks who make daily posts about autism to be confined to one thread for seven days.

Thanks.

passportbro999 · 2023-08-27T20:08:23+00:00

I think men saying they don’t want high N count women are generally only talking about obese women.

A guy would take a pornstar over a female executive / feminist activist any day

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-08-27T19:12:49+00:00

I love manwhores but they have too much baggage to handle

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-08-27T18:15:26+00:00

Men who have lots of sex are applauded.

Women who have lots of sex are threatened with singledom and cats.

Yet, in reality, the men tend to be lifelong bachelor's. And the women end up happily married or long term partnerships.

It's almost like the threat isn't even real and just a big boogeyman to attempt to scare women into not having sex.

saraimarsena · 2023-08-27T18:01:41+00:00

unpopular hot take: touting your body count as a man as an accomplishment or a stat that you define yourself by is gross.

have a lot of sex because you want to, not as some ploy for social validation from the boyz

dotnetguy1032 · 2023-08-27T18:01:36+00:00

I love all the women that are like "you're just insecure if you care about n-count".

Yeah, and???

I don't want to be compared to the other Chads that made you see angels and caused the earth to shake.

I've read enough stories of men overhearing their wives telling their girlfriends "I love him, but sometimes I think about Chad and how he brought me quivering to my knees". Few things can crush a man like this, and women being the psychopaths they are will gaslight the man into thinking HE is the insecure one with the problem.

dotnetguy1032 · 2023-08-27T17:58:36+00:00

Having lots of sex doesn't damage women.

Damaged women are having lots of sex to fill the daddy issues hole in their soul.

A well adjusted Becky from a loving suburban family isn't racking up n=50.

TheThorWawaay · 2023-08-27T17:52:02+00:00

I strongly believe that the biggest reason men find high n count women to be off putting is because of the psychosexual dynamic between men and women. Generally, the woman is always on the more submissive side of the relationship be it subtly or obviously, whether it is women being always the little spoon, women getting approached, women desiring masculinity which comes with a flavor of dominance and leadership, to how most sexual positions and the whole sex is.

The way men perceive and internalize the existence of a high n count woman is that she was dominated by all of those men AKA "ran through" and so they lose respect for her because to men the biggest form of weakness is submission to another person. Hmm there is even more nuance here like the fact that men are highly competitive among one another and so seeing another man "owning" your wife is probably the biggest insult that there is. Why is that so? Because men often grow up in a specific environment where vulnerability and showing weakness is a sin and the only accepted outlet to do that is in the confines of a romantic relationship and so it holds a very special place in their hearts, and so a woman who's been with a lot of men and in that specific dynamic is a woman whom they deem "corrupted" as she is no longer worth opening up to because many men have been there and it no longer feels special.

There is even more and this isn't even 40% accurate.

Ultimately I think if you're disgusted by high n count women then some inner work is over due and then you'll see if you have some actual apprehension about the thing which you'd be free to enforce in your life.

tinasnow-poty · 2023-08-27T15:51:30+00:00

Everyone’s focusing on women but what about men with high n count ! Admittedly it doesn’t bother me as much as it bothers men but I’ll pass on anything over 10. The logic is similar to why guys don’t want women with high n counts. Those guys want to sow their wild oats and it’s very unlikely you’ll be the one to lock him down. I wouldn’t bet on a guy whose slept with a lot of people to suddenly change for me, unless he’s like 35+ and feeling ready to settle down which is too old for me. Much better to be with a guy who has mostly been in LTR, maybe a hookup or FWB here and there because he’s LTR minded

CompetitiveTennis112 · 2023-08-27T14:49:16+00:00

does n count only increase if a dick was inside her? what if she pegs a dude? bj/hj count or not? does masturbation with a dildo count? what if its very intense masturbating (10in dildo machine or something)? what if another guy used a dildo on her?

all my n-count questions from daily thread in one. core of the question is whether or not n-count functions as a yuck meter(which is completely fine btw)?

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Perfect-Resist5478 · 2023-08-26T16:16:42+00:00

While I don’t really understand it, I’m willing to accept that lots of guys care about n count.

What I don’t understand is how they expect a woman (who presumably is good looking, cuz obviously they want someone hot) who doesn’t have a lot of sex to secretly be a crazy sex kitten. Women who like and want to have a lot of sex have sex. This idea that she’s gonna be pure and innocent until your dick unlocks something inside her is magical thinking.

96tillinfinity_ · 2023-08-26T16:39:12+00:00

Men dont care about the specific number of a woman’s body count as much as the behavior as a whole being a turn off

Take 2 girls. Both have had sex with 5 men. Lets say girl A has had sex 5 guys all coming within a talking stage. Maybe 3 were shorter relationships m (few months) 1 was a long term (couple years) and one was a tinder thing that lasted a couple weeks

Girl B had sex with 5 guys and every single one of them was a drunk hook up at the bar where she essentially sucked and fucked 5 strangers on the same night

Same body counts but Girl B is way more off putting than Girl A

Horses4causes · 2023-08-26T16:53:03+00:00

A high N-count, or specifically a strong desire to attain multiple sexual partners, is a common indicator of psychopathy.

Disturbingly and fittingly, mental health professionals are not uncommonly sexual libertines.

Licentiousness and promiscuity is synonymous with sexual assault. When expressing opinion favouring prostitution, it is asserted that sexual assault crimes would decrease, yet what is unacknowledged is that the services of prostitution would therefore cater to people who would otherwise commit sexual assault. Prostitution (and promiscuous behaviour or endeavour) enables the perpetuation and the generation of behaviour attributed with sexual assault.

When demand for prostitution increases exponentially, removing the services entirely would pose a serious problem, causing incidence of sexual assault to be higher than previous. Availability of prostitution is likely to exacerbate, rather than ameliorate, incidence of sexual assault.

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-08-26T16:53:18+00:00

It's a stupid and insecure thing to be concerned about.

thisaccountaintrea1 · 2023-08-26T16:58:00+00:00

I’ve said this before, but to reiterate: the number doesn’t matter; the context does.

If a girl has been with 30 dudes, but she’s honest in her relationships and good about getting tested, I see no issue. If a girl has only been with two guys, but cheated on one to sleep with the other, that’s a major red flag.

StrikingAd8556 · 2023-08-26T17:06:52+00:00

I can't speak for other guys but the only reason a high body count bothered me was because I felt I couldn't compete and didn't have the same opportunities. Now that I'm older I wouldn't want to be with someone with a body count higher than 5 on principle with 0 - 2 previous partners being the ideal.

Guys are worried girls will lie about their body count, but who cares? That is a reflection of her character and isn't really a slight against you.

Plus, you can date around and break up with girls for whatever reason you want and it will increase your own body count so it is a win win.

Maybe this is a double standard, but I don't care because women have plenty of double standards that benefit them.

MeanGuyNumber4 · 2023-08-26T17:13:26+00:00

Sex with sluts is less special. You could bring up evo-psych and parental certainty or divorce rates statistics, but it’s really that simple.

princedune · 2023-08-26T17:23:38+00:00

I will find a virgin wife and start a big family with her.

Master-Gene-8382 · 2023-08-26T17:24:29+00:00

It’s funny how the people who get most upset about people who care about N-Counts are usually either A. The women with high N counts or B. The men who are dating/marrying them.

BLKSKNHED · 2023-08-26T17:28:41+00:00

I'd Commit to a promiscuous woman with 0 sob stories relating another man than even a trad or low n count with sob stories. wasting my time with damaged *****? no thank you.

Twinseo09 · 2023-08-26T18:09:39+00:00

It don’t matter. The only reason men care is they feel the women is secretly comparing them to her previous partner or the women doesn’t have the same enthusiasm as she once did. Eliminate both and men wouldn’t care.

WilliamWyattD · 2023-08-26T19:31:29+00:00

We've dealt a lot with the absurdities on the male side of this argument. But what I do not get is why otherwise reasonable women want to insist that N Count cannot ever matter. They do not even believe that themselves. There are certain body counts most women would find shocking.

Promiscuity levels, including body count, matter. They matter for both genders, though there may be some asymmetry. How much N Counts matter? At what number? In what context? All reasonable discussions. But 'it never matters' seems silly.

Nate_Reborn · 2023-09-01T01:29:12+00:00

Any final thoughts on N count before we wrap up here? Anyone learn anything new?

ornamentalwallpaper · 2023-08-27T13:49:59+00:00

Women, don't volunteer any information that you don't have to volunteer. Men, don't ask questions that you don't want to hear the answer to. Women, when men ask questions they don't want to hear the answer to, just take care of your guy's feelings and tell them about two wholesome relationships that did not work out. White lies is a foundation of a happy marriage.

Stergeary · 2023-08-27T12:46:46+00:00

My honest opinion is that when men talk about "Reasons why I care about her N count", and the reason isn't "because it disgusts me", it is a straight cope. People bringing up "marriages are less likely to last with a high N count", or "I don't want the paternity of my future child put into question", or "they are statistically more likely to cheat". Cope. Cope. Cope.

I'm sure there are exceptions, but generally if you are a man, you just know this -- If you know a woman has had a bunch of different men inside her, it disgusts you. It disgusts you. That's literally it, it's unattractive. Sure, there probably is a biological or evolutionary reason for it, such as wanting to avoid venereal diseases, guaranteeing paternity, and so on, but the visceral male experience for why N count matters for men is because it disgusts us. Men do not have control over this, and yes it is as irrational as women choosing men for their height "because he'll be able to protect me". It no longer makes sense in a society where guns exist, but she can't change the way she feels either, it's irrational. Just as N count doesn't really matter in a society where contraception exists, but he can't change the way he feels either, it's irrational.

Specialist-Action-33 · 2023-08-27T08:52:29+00:00

For the inexperienced guys, if you like her but she has a high N count and it keeps bothering you, just go fuck other girls behind her back to make yourself feel better. You can have a relationship with a woman with a high N count but NEVER give her monogamy.

Its a hill I'm dying on. Cry about it.

100PercentNattyBrah · 2023-08-27T04:29:23+00:00

"Why do you care about her previous partners? It was before you!!"

I don't want other men's DNA in my investments. Very simple.

Nate_Reborn · 2023-08-27T00:46:07+00:00

N is the 14th letter in the alphabet.

Thank you for your time.

Environmental_Day558 · 2023-08-27T00:32:33+00:00

"N count doesn't matter" is bunk because there is a correlation between that and the likelihood of getting married, satisfaction within the marriage, and divorce rate. This applies to both genders.

But let's say it truly doesn't matter to you, why should it not matter to someone else? People are allowed to have standards and preferences.

armpitpics · 2023-08-26T23:55:57+00:00

How many armpits should i lick before I'm a slut? How many armpits should he lick before he's a slut?

Uglypostwall · 2023-08-26T23:54:56+00:00

I regret some of my hookups because of my high number of sexual partners.

1) Men and my parents are disgusted with me, to be honest.

2) Women benefit from experienced men because, as someone with a high number of sexual partners, I realized they used my advice for their future partners, while I was left feeling jealous. This is one of the reasons why I am jealous of my ex's wife. 😭

Lift_and_Lurk · 2023-08-26T22:43:16+00:00

Nothing funnier to me that looking thru an n count thread and the one things that’s not being discussed? Actual numbers!

-snickerss- · 2023-08-26T21:38:59+00:00

What percentage of men high-N women sleep with actually make them orgasm?

SlowEffective8146 · 2023-08-26T19:56:33+00:00

I'm a high n count man and would never commit to a high n count woman, ama

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-08-26T19:53:42+00:00

Really tired of men on reddit calling me a whore despite not knowing me. I'm really not that slutty.

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