Can advocates of casual sex propose it’s merits?

relish5k · 2024-01-12T20:53:32+00:00

It’s just simply animalistic, hedonistic and reduces sex, an action between two loving people, to rudimentary pleasure.

I think that is essentially the pro-argument.

It’s like Taco Bell. Obviously a steakhouse that you need to save up for a make reservations at a month in advance will serve a more satisfying experience.

But if you’re hungry right now well then, there’s always Taco Bell. Open late, cheap, good going in even if it hurts going out.

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2024-01-12T20:34:41+00:00

Some people don't want LTRs. Some people might want an LTR at some point but right now, they're not looking for that. Some people just like sex and will have sex even when they're not in a relationship because it's not a big deal to them.

BackToTheMoon_ · 2024-01-12T20:45:36+00:00

Me like fuck

Next question

Gravel_Roads · 2024-01-12T20:55:33+00:00

form inferior to LTRs.

Even if this is true, not everyone is in an LTR - those are a huge commitment, and often take years of searching to find someone you want to share your life with. So if someone wants to enjoy sex, and they haven't found a life partner yet, casual sex is the only option - "medium pleasure" might not be as good at "incredible pleasure" but it's certainly more than "no pleasure whatsoever".

simply animalistic, hedonistic

Why is that bad? You know what else is aimalistic/hedonistic? Enjoying food. Enjoying soft beds. Enjoying a hot bath. Looking at pretty waterfalls. Reading a good book. Allowing yourself to enjoy simple physical pleasure reduces stress, which can actually extend your lifespan, give you more nuanced perspectives, and helps you better understand yourself and what you like (and what you don't like!)

reduces sex, an action between two loving people, to rudimentary pleasure.

Sex IS rudimentary pleasure. You are personally assigning a magical component to sex that you think makes it "bind people together" like a spell. But that's not based in reality - even shitty people in bad relationships have sex. It doesn't fix their relationship or bind them together. If it did, people wouldn't cheat.

There needs to be a degree of modesty and chastity

Why? Enforced modesty just oppresses people. I don't see what the benefit of being modest is. Nor chastity. Most of the women I know who were raised to be "chaste" ended up with emotional problems, and had a harder time exploring their sexuality even WITH a loving partner, because they were taught their whole lives to fear sex.

I am not coming at this from a religious perspective

Then what is your problem? Why do you think men and women would be happier if they weren't allowed to have sex outside of relationships? What on earth would motivate anyone to care that you think they should be more modest?

purplish_possum · 2024-01-12T20:31:49+00:00

It's fun. Next question.

Good_Result2787 · 2024-01-12T20:36:08+00:00

Are you asking people who straight-up advocate for other people to engage in more casual sex? Or do you mean, "can people who tend to have more casual sex than LTRs explain why they like/prefer it?" Because these are different things, and an advocate is different from somone who just does a thing or has a preference.

I'm not sure I've ever met an advocate of casual sex--at least not openly. I've met people who have it, though.

confused_makeup · 2024-01-12T20:36:21+00:00

It feels good, is fun, and harms literally no one (unless you're salty that you can't get any)

I fail to see any issues with people having sex when they want, as long as they consent

I also don't see how it "objectifies" women. If anything, it gives women agency to have sex whenever and with whomever they want.

Siliconmage76 · 2024-01-12T21:10:22+00:00

Sex is not some sacred act that should be done with as few people as possible in one's lifetime. To believe it is is a negative attitude that severely limits one's sexual potential and one's dating pool to a puddle.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-01-12T20:37:46+00:00

Not every girl I thought was attractive did I also think “we’d be good together”. Some really hot women were actually not very nice people. And some women I thought were ltr material we figured out on dates that we weren’t. OR we weren’t looking for a LTR cause we were still in school. We had other goals in mind before getting to that.

That didn’t mean we weren’t sexually attracted to each other. And, even if it’s not “ideal” sex is still enjoyable!

Opening_Tell9388 · 2024-01-12T20:48:06+00:00

I make really deep and meaningful connections with a lot of beautiful people. I just don't feel like they owe me anything nor would I want to keep them from making more connections. Feels weird to me.

MongoBobalossus · 2024-01-12T20:39:55+00:00

It feels great, it’s fun, and you get to see different women naked.

All three are great things.

Literal_Jesus_ · 2024-01-12T20:37:48+00:00

*nopillsgirlie*

Being in a relationship takes time and energy that I don't have for dead end dudes.

There are more people I'd sleep with than settle down with.

When I ventured into hookup culture I was incredibly career focused and didn't have much interest in the men around me outside of sex because everything else in my life was more important.

It's fun.

63daddy · 2024-01-12T21:31:52+00:00

I think it all depends on what you mean by “casual sex”

Having a number of unmarried relationships means I’ve never been stuck in a bad, sexless marriage, and I’ve never had to surrender a lot of money to another person in a divorce.

“Better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all”. I think there’s some merit to that. Just because someone isn’t a good marriage fit doesn’t mean spending time together is wasted.

That said, for me, one night stands have a lot of risk for little return other than briefly scratching an itch and are not for me. The risk-reward isn’t justified, same with prostitutes.

There’s a whole spectrum of relationship possibilities. I don’t think any is inherently right or wrong. What’s important is to figure out what’s important to you and choose appropriately.

Cethlinnstooth · 2024-01-12T21:57:44+00:00

I don't need to be a proponent of it to see what's in it for people. You don't always want to acquire a lifelong partner just to have sex. Especially not if you've got ambitions that commit you to certain times and places that a prospective partner may not be on board for. You might be studying something that will take you to a different city. You might not have permanent residency. You might have promised your family you will return to your hometown and run the farm.

Waiting to only do LTRs when you are where you hope to be forever makes perfect sense for a great many people.

CraftyCooler · 2024-01-12T22:06:18+00:00

Human beings are complicated - we have different needs and we value different things at different moments. Can you for example imagine two lonely people who met by accident at some point in life, became friends, found consolation and peace thanks to each other, had sex because they both needed this intimacy and moved on with their lives once they were ready ? Do you think it is immoral that two people helped each other this way ?

For other people sex might be also just a leisure, some people sell sex and are ok with it. We are free, we are different, controlling our genitals is not needed for society to survive. At all :)

Soloandthewookiee · 2024-01-12T22:44:39+00:00

It’s just simply animalistic, hedonistic and reduces sex, an action between two loving people, to rudimentary pleasure.

You don't have to love someone to have sex with them. Other than that, you've already identified why it's desirable. It's generally pleasurable, exciting, and fun.

I simply can’t believe that this is a good thing for society. There needs to be a degree of modesty and chastity, for goodness sake.

Why?

Realistic-Ad-1023 · 2024-01-13T00:12:12+00:00

The issue with objectification is the lack of consent. We like being objectified by people - when we consent to it. So we are going to put that to the side.

You just named every reason it’s amazing. It’s animalistic, hedonistic, rudimentary pleasure.

Fuck modesty and chastity. For what? Why? What is the benefit to not having safe and consensual sex? Outside of religion, why would you not sleep with someone just because you both wanted to?

I’m not saying it’s a long term solution for everyone nor for everyone even short term. But the judgment against it is completely unwarranted. Why is my sleeping with someone an issue for anyone other than me and that person?

I became very close with some casual hookups. I was able to get a lot into a single night with another person. That ability to connect, to open up and share secrets with someone you just met, to connect in a deep way for a fleeting moment - it’s quite beautiful.

I loved being single. I didn’t have to consider someone else’s feelings, coordinate schedules with another person, I ate what I wanted to eat, went where I wanted to go, cleaned my own messes, slept when I wanted to sleep, and had a lot of fun.

I met some wonderful people who I ended up very close with. They began as ONS and hookups and I ended up having very close and deep relationships with them. It was still casual, but I knew one of my partners was trans before anyone else, I ended up being brought into a relationship as a unicorn for a girl I used to hook up with and her boyfriend, I had a partner who still messages me for girl advice. They are wonderful and fulfilling relationships and they are people I am so happy to have met.

My fiancé started off as a ONS. We each were sleeping with multiple other people. We each had safe and protected sex. No pregnancy scares or sti’s for either of us in our time as single people (or together for that matter.) When we met we just liked being together. And slowly we realized we each prioritized the other. We ended up dating and becoming monogamous. I dont know if that is how we will always be but we have worked very hard to create a very strong, loving, trusting foundation. We are that couple now - the one everyone is jealous of, the one our girl friends point to and ask their boyfriends why they don’t act that way. He is loving and kind and just amazing. And if we weren’t living our lives the way we were, we never would have met. I’m grateful for the time I spent as a slut. It was awesome.

I was also a professional Dominatrix for a time. That was incredibly fulfilling work. That’s another story as there was no sex involved.

But I find that once I stopped seeing sex as some sacred act between two people who love each other and saw it for the pleasurable activity that it is, my life was better for it. I’m not hurting anyone. I don’t judge anyone who doesn’t want to have sex. I don’t know why me having sex affects those who don’t. So it’s a weird thing to judge someone else about.

Mentathiel · 2024-01-13T00:50:40+00:00

It leads to the objectification of women

As opposed to marrying them so you could fuck them, which was not objectifying at all? Or marrying them for their domestic skills, family fortune, or whatever else? It's not like we turned from these perfect patriarchal romantics into nihilistic monsters. Anyone can objectify women regardless of how stigmatized sex is.

to the normalisation of a lack of commitment

That is definitionally what casual sex is, yes.

hindering the development of deep, meaningful connections

How?

It’s just simply animalistic, hedonistic

You're just giving negative adjectives, not giving an argument for what's bad about it. I can say it's fun, pleasurable, intimate, intense, or whatever, I haven't made an argument either.

reduces sex, an action between two loving people, to rudimentary pleasure

Sex is not an action between two loving people. Sex can be many things. It can be loving, it can be dutiful, it can be casual, it can be rape, there's all sorts of sexual intercourse. To reduce it from one to the other is to assume it has some correct form. Which is kind of begging the question aka you're just asserting your conclusion as a premise.

I simply can’t believe that this is a good thing for society. There needs to be a degree of modesty and chastity, for goodness sake.

Again, you haven't said why it is bad for society, you just said that it is.

For someone calling others out for "disappointing" arguments, you don't seem to have provided much of an argument for anything.

Let me try to posit the benefits of casual sex as someone who's never had it lol:

You may not be at a place to be in a LTR. For example, you may have been in a string of abusive relationships and noticed the pattern, noticed you seem to pick out bad partners, and you might be going to therapy to try to resolve this. You find someone sexually attractive, you don't want your urges to push you to enter a relationship with them if that's a decision you're not ready to make, it's neat that you're able to satisfy your sexual urges and still set boundaries about not being in a good place to choose a serious partner yet.
Variety of partners is good for exploring your sexuality. People tend to have different sexual styles and kinks etc. and having different partners can help you see what you like, what bothers you, what you're willing to entertain. If you have some very specific fetish it's nice to try it out and to figure out how necessary it is for keeping you sexually satisfied or you may always wonder and be tempted if you're with a partner who can't satisfy it for some reason. You also gain confidence and skills to satisfy your partner better.
Internalized shame regarding sexual desires from the way our society used to (and to some degree still does) sanctify sex can interfere a lot with sexual pleasure. A lot of people have a lot of performance anxiety, insecurity, are too afraid to talk about their desires, are awkward and giggly about sex-related topics, etc. And this shame seems almost like an inevitable product of chastity/modesty culture. It can also make it more difficult to talk about rape or get out of abusive situations after you've already slept with the person.

KayRay1994 · 2024-01-12T20:49:15+00:00

my question is why is this a question for blue pill when all kinds of people with all kinds of ‘pill’ beliefs in some form enjoy casual sex.

Anyway - casual sex and LTRs are both great, for different reasons, though - but i’ll just focus on causal sex here. Causal sex is just straight up fun, you also get to know someone at an intimate level, and these short term connections are a nice little part of life as long as you keep them as such. Of course, casual sex can become bad if you use it for validation or if you’re playing someone to get it - but the exact same can be said for LTRs.

i’m also curious why modesty and chastity are necessary “for goodness sake” - if both parties are consenting, nobody is taking advantage of the other and both are able to act responsibly about it, then who cares?

thelajestic · 2024-01-12T21:05:34+00:00

In my eyes, it is in every way, shape or form inferior to LTRs.

They're not comparable because people get different things out of them. LTRs are great if that's what you want at that time, but not everyone wants that.

hindering the development of deep, meaningful connections.

It doesn't have any impact whatsoever on deep and meaningful connections. People still build them if they want them.

It’s just simply animalistic, hedonistic

Yes that's why it's fun

reduces sex, an action between two loving people, to rudimentary pleasure.

Sex is just rudimentary pleasure. You can put an emotional lens on it if you want but at its base it literally is just a fun physical activity.

boom-wham-slam · 2024-01-12T21:08:55+00:00

It's fun.

Safinated · 2024-01-12T21:22:14+00:00

Sex feels good, which is why we have it at all

full_brick_package · 2024-01-12T22:25:10+00:00

This, is such a frequent take, everywhere.

I don't know, I guess some of us, like myself, were born with a really big sex drive while 99% of people were not. To me, sex with a new person is the absolute best sensation a person can experience in their whole life.

So there's your merit, it makes a few of us VERY VERY VERY VERY happy and we'd really like it if you'd just leave us alone about it.

Look, I get it, to animalistically breed new offspring and raise them as your soul purpose in life while being micromanaged and dominated by your lifelong partner seems to be the overwhelming thing people want to do.

That animal brain "I need to reproduce and raise my young" mentality dominates so many.

And society, well, I don't see how casual sex harms society. Not only is there a cure, treatment or prevention for every sexual disease but if you're afraid of that ban motorcycles, pitbulls, airplanes, satellites, guns, or basically anything presenting any risk.

"But single parents make bad kids", hard disagree. You don't leave behind the same generational wealth but culture is what screws people up. If the culture is violent, selfish and rude of course it's spawning bad people.

"But hedonism is selfish" yeah well so is everything we do. We literally ride a meat mech around looking at everything in first person. Having those kids and trying to impose your values around your family needs is selfish as hell actually.

"But the children shouldn't see it" then don't take them to our spaces.

"But the unwanted pregnancies" yes... we have like 100+ forms of birth control that prevent the pregnancy from ever even happening. Educate people and use them.

"But I don't like it and I think I have the right to control you just because I don't have the desires you do. " Now that's what you should be admitting to here. You don't have urges, you feel the need to make everyone else live by the beat of your drums according to your hormones.

YveisGrey · 2024-01-12T22:50:54+00:00

Never heard anyone really argue casual is a good for society most of the arguments in favor are self centered

Prudent-Conflict-557 · 2024-01-12T23:55:32+00:00

Yeah. It’s called “living your life how you want to”. If you want to have casual sex.. have it. The pros and cons of most things are subjective.

There are other animals who fuck for pleasure. It is what it is. All you have to do is simply not do it if it’s not your thing. Modesty and chastity are made up concepts.

Live your life how you want to and let other people do the same. (As long as it’s legal and everyone’s consenting, duh)

Novadina · 2024-01-13T01:12:20+00:00

In my eyes, it is in every way, shape or form inferior to LTRs.

Completely agree. I wouldn’t recommend leaving a good LTR just in order to casually hook up. However, people aren’t always in an LTR, and sex can still be enjoyable even with someone you aren’t in a relationship with. It’s not a replacement for an LTR, it’s for having some fun with someone.

It leads to the objectification of women, to the normalisation of a lack of commitment, hindering the development of deep, meaningful connections.

How does it hinder development of connections? Are you saying you can’t connect with someone if you have sex with them, or if you have sex sometimes you are unable to connect with anyone, or what? Wouldn’t this be a problem in LTRs, too, like if I couldn’t have a meaningful connection with my husband or make deep connections with friends because my husband and I have sex, it would still be an issue…

It’s just simply animalistic, hedonistic and reduces sex, an action between two loving people, to rudimentary pleasure.

I’m not seeing why “pleasure” is a bad thing? Sex is pleasurable. What purpose would denying ourselves this pleasure when two people want to have fun together? Can you explain what exactly is bad about pleasure?

I simply can’t believe that this is a good thing for society.

Seems neutral to me. It’s sex, a totally natural and normal thing, it’s not hurting anyone. Are you against all pleasure? Do you think society is hurt because people eat chocolate?

There needs to be a degree of modesty and chastity, for goodness sake.

Why, who does it hurt if two people want to have sex together and do so?

I also want to mention that I am not coming at this from a religious perspective

That’s the only reason I can think for thinking pleasure is inherently bad, some religious text that declares your god doesn’t like pleasure or something. If it’s not that, can you explain what reasons you have for thinking that?

2024-01-13T01:41:36+00:00

OP I don't see the point in making this post why do you want to know the merits of the enemy? I tried arguing against hook up culture it did not work well. They get to theorize extinction of monogamy and spread propaganda on how people need sexual variety before settling down. We need to build up our own culture and community. We need to strengthen commitment culture and fire back against hook up culture. This isn't about casual sex goers but about us commitment culture folks.

2024-01-13T15:04:42+00:00

You make a lot of assumptions. You say casual sex reduces an act between two loving people. Why do people need to be in love to have sex? Isn’t it enough to care for the other person, even as a friend? Why not?

Why is chastity important if you are not religious?

Someone can dress modestly and still engage in casual sex so I’m not sure why you brought that up.

Does sex really lead to the objectification of women? Then, do LTRs reduce men into financial objects? Do relationships reduce people into forms of emotional validation?

Is it wrong for people to turn themselves into sexual/emotional/financial objects for people they care about?

FutureBannedAccount2 · 2024-01-12T21:05:39+00:00

WHy do you think it leads only to the objectification of women?

Why do you think every connection we make in our lives needs to be committed, deep and meaningful?

What's wrong with rudimentary pleasure?

MidoriEgg · 2024-01-12T21:05:29+00:00

There’s always going to be a portion of the population that engage in casual sex during periods of their life. Regardless of your views on it, casual sex is inevitable. Relationships take commitment and work and not everyone wants to or is able to do that adequately.

CroomagnumTX · 2024-01-12T22:17:40+00:00

Sex is a biological need and can be a very healthy way to relieve stress.

TigerLilly00 · 2024-01-12T21:42:04+00:00

Casual sex only benefits males. They're not the ones who have to carry a child for nine months if birth control fails, or have to worry about going through an abortion (which can be a traumatic thing even for a woman who doesn't want kids). And they're the ones often asking for no condoms too. That's the reason why you're getting the responses you're getting here. Men can easily resort to monke brain and have no incentive not to.

Casual sex has absolutely no benefits to a woman whatsoever, while carrying a handful of downsides.

Edit: and the obvious thing I didn't mention, which is a downside for both sides, are the STDs. You're risking your health every time you have sex with a near stranger.

apresonly · 2024-01-12T21:20:06+00:00

being affectionate and intimate with another person is a wholesome human experience that doesn't need to be moderated in and of itself.

its just that not all people are trustworthy to be vulnerable with so vetting/commitment can serve this person for people who are unwilling to take the risk because nefarious minded people or people who are okay casually exploiting others (hooking up without being respectful and reciprocal) exist in not small numbers.

in an ideal world where everyone was a good person we could have sex freely with others.

Special-Hyena1132 · 2024-01-12T21:43:12+00:00

OP, how old are you?

nytnaltx · 2024-01-12T21:54:31+00:00

OP, you’re completely correct in your view of casual sex. Don’t be discouraged by the naysayers on this thread who I’m sure will downvote me as they downvoted you. Not everyone is living by a higher moral code. Lots of people live like slightly more advanced versions of animals, and would gladly admit that’s all they think they are. Pleasure is the driving factor, and most adults aren’t willing to deny themselves a dopamine hit. Regardless, you will not regret living your life for better things than getting high, partying, or having casual sex. If you respect yourself and others enough to have higher standards, be proud of that. But expect that lots of people will judge you, because your self control makes them feel morally inferior. I salute you :)

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JollyRoger66689 · 2024-01-12T22:35:22+00:00

Not having to choose between celibacy and committing myself to someone I dislike is a pretty big merit imo.

Don't think it generally has merits for society as a whole but the world already takes advantage of people enough as it is so im not going to feel bad about not sacrificing myself even more for society.

McTitty3000 · 2024-01-12T22:37:25+00:00

Sometimes two people are just attracted to each other and want to fuck each other's brains out, not every relationship is meant to be forever, it's really not that deep in terms of an explanation, is a one-night stand inferior to a genuinely loving relationship? Sure I agree there, doesn't mean it can't be fun though and if you're playing safe and being honest with your intentions nothing wrong with a little fun, religious perspective or not if it's not for you it's not for you. And you even answered your own question as to why it's appealing in the original post lol

Welllarmedhippie · 2024-01-12T22:41:07+00:00

It takes the edge off so your perspective is clearer, so you might be less likely to get involved with the wrong person just because you're horny. It helps you to learn what you like and don't like. It helps you learn to communicate your needs and listen to your partner's needs.

Overall I don't think the positives of casual sex outweigh the negatives. Call me a pessimist I guess. I don't regret any of my lays but I wouldn't do it again either. Maybe it has its time and place.

YYZYYC · 2024-01-12T23:26:12+00:00

"It leads to the objectification of women, to the normalisation of a lack of commitment, hindering the development of deep, meaningful connections." casual sex does not at all lead to those things, misogyny and religion do

What is good about modesty ? or chastity ?

GrassToucher29 · 2024-01-12T23:35:33+00:00

>It leads to the objectification of women

Only if you *already* see sex as men using women’s bodies as opposed to men and women having sex *with one another*.

>to the normalization of a lack of commitment

Idk, I guess? But not everyone wants to be in a committed relationship. It’s good for there to be options for still getting your sexual needs met. There are all kinds of people looking for all kinds of situations. And the cool thing is, oftentimes casual relationships develop into long term ones.

>hindering the development of deep, meaningful connections.

Uh, gonna have to disagree with you there

>It’s just simply animalistic,

Well, if it’s any good it is ;)

>hedonistic,

What’s wrong with that?

>and reduces sex, an action between two loving people, to rudimentary pleasure.

Nope. Sex doesn’t have to be between two people in love, and casual sex doesn’t degrade the meaning or value of intimate sex between people in love. You can have casual sex and then get into a serious relationship and still have intimate and loving sex with your committed partner. It’s not one or the other.

>There needs to be a degree of modesty and chastity, for goodness sake.

Why?

r2k398 · 2024-01-12T23:43:03+00:00

I’m not an advocate but you can usually gain skills the more you do something. You can find out what you like and what partners like and dislike.

izzzy12k · 2024-01-13T01:23:25+00:00

Those who have no problem finding partners, are not going to want to stop.. or speak against it.

Why would they? They are the ones enjoying this lifestyle.

GhostofAugustWest · 2024-01-13T01:39:54+00:00

Imagine people living their own lives by their standards and values. And not yours.

NoDanaOnlyZuuI · 2024-01-13T01:40:30+00:00

I hate beets. I don’t ask people who like beets to justify their reasons for liking them. Different strokes for different folks.

Kapoue · 2024-01-13T02:37:04+00:00

Because sex is fun.

Not everyone can commit to a relationship. Maybe you are not stable financially or emotionally; or even you are living for three months in another country.

Casual sex is great when everyone is on the same page and no one is lying about it.

efleming676 · 2024-01-13T02:37:57+00:00

I want women to be objectified.

Appropriate-Gate-851 · 2024-01-13T03:10:38+00:00

(30F) As someone who is waiting until marriage : 👀👀

Kilatypus · 2024-01-13T03:20:12+00:00

Physical pleasure, no stress about long-term commitment, gaining sexual experience that can help make you a better partner when the time comes, learning about how other people work so you can netter navigate friendships and relationships.

You aren't looking for an answer. You are looking to argue and come up with rebuttals to anyone's answer.

strokesfan1998 · 2024-01-13T03:34:37+00:00

pee pee cum

Expensive-Tea455 · 2024-01-13T04:10:09+00:00

I’m grabbing my popcorn to read these comments because I don’t get it either… casual sex seems to present more risks as opposed to benefits, especially if you’re a woman… I just don’t get the hype about it, seems like a waste of time to me 🤷🏽‍♀️

kochIndustriesRussia · 2024-01-13T04:20:21+00:00

Fun. It's fun. Sometimes people do things for fun.

LouisdeRouvroy · 2024-01-13T05:39:08+00:00

It leads to the objectification of women, to the normalisation of a lack of commitment, hindering the development of deep, meaningful connections.

All of that is true, but you fail to explain why objectification, lack of commitment are bad and deep connection is good.

I think bombing kids in Palestine is an objectification of them, hence their mistreatment as if they were mere objects. That does not bother lots of people who pretend that objectification of women is bad.

Lack of commitment. The abolition of feudal lordship is also the abandoning of a powerful commitment. How is this bad?

Deep meaningful connection. Why is the lack thereof bad?

jtinian · 2024-01-13T06:51:11+00:00

I think you're attacking it the wrong way - casual relationships are easy and low commitment. There's no adversity or growth that one needs to do in order to engage in those kinds of relationships - nothing respectable about it.

2024-01-13T08:05:04+00:00

It feels great it's good practice fit later in life and why not if it's healthy and consensual

RubyDiscus · 2024-01-13T08:11:12+00:00

It's a lot more exciting thank LTR. Kinda like drugs lol

AreOut · 2024-01-13T09:07:08+00:00

a woman can get a way more attractive guy for casual than she could for LTR

educatedkoala · 2024-01-13T09:35:28+00:00

I don't want to develop feelings for someone and then find out we're sexually incompatible. I only want to date them if we are. Therefore, I've got to have casual sex to figure that out, and then move forward with emotional intimacy.

How do I know what my sexual needs are, and how important they are to me? By having lots and lots of casual sex, being exposed to different body types and styles and bedroom activities. If I had done things your way, then I'd have always been a wife who borderlined on a dead bedroom because I didn't know what I liked.

SpaceGhost717 · 2024-01-13T11:10:12+00:00

Women should be punished for having casual sex because they exclude me.

AnnoKano · 2024-01-13T11:24:22+00:00

Let's assume that you are correct about the benefits of LTRs versus casual sex. The problem is you are not going to form a deep, meaningful connection with someone if it is arbitrarily imposed upon you for your own good. You need to make that realisation for yourself.

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2024-01-13T12:08:00+00:00

who said it had "merits" for everyone? who is a "proponent " of casual sex for everyone? don't have casual sex, who cares

Rare-Emu-119 · 2024-01-21T15:14:06+00:00

For men, the ability to KNOW you can get casual sex is a game changer… Does a lot lot lot to your confidence and sense of self.

Why? No idea..

I also think men just like sexual variety. I know that’s a hard pill for women to understand but it’s true. We just are.

I’ve known a lot of commited gay couples who have a lot of sex outside of the relationship because they understand this about eachother.

Konoha_Shinobee · 2024-02-07T17:06:58+00:00

It’s just simply animalistic, hedonistic and reduces sex, an action between two loving people, to rudimentary pleasure.

Sex is a rudimentary pleasure. Lizard brain likes it.

People like junk food because it tastes good. There's nothing about sex that requires "love"(whatever that is).

The benefit of casual sex is that you get to have sex without having to commit to a person, relationships are a voluntary surrendering of independence and freedom, and if we're being honest, most of them are just formed as avenues to get sex, especially from the male side. More casual sex means fewer dysfunctional relationships people don't really want to be in.

Title	Can advocates of casual sex propose it’s merits?
Author	awesomedude771
Upvotes	13
Comments	150
Date	January 12, 2024 8:30 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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