Never EVER share financial information with a man. It starts with $20 now but can easily escalate to much more over the years. Come across the wrong one and they will absolutely destroy you financially.

clytemnestra_23 · 2022-02-27T20:58:28+00:00

The age gap, the gaslighting, the stealing, it's all pointing to an old hobosexual who is looking for a naive woman to house him and pay for him.

NowTruly · 2022-02-27T23:16:17+00:00

Damn, this one isn’t even FDS-specific. Like, if my kid told me someone tried this, I’d just point out two things:

Glossing over the taking of the credit card for a sec … why does this asshole need the PIN for the card? You only need the PIN when you’re trying to get nice, fungible, completely untraceable cash. (And credit card cash is at an even higher interest rate than regular purchases to boot.)
Take the GF out of this equation. Would this asshole do anything like this to one of his bros?

This guy is just so gross.

millennialpink2000 · 2022-02-27T21:09:58+00:00

He did it perfectly. He's got her gaslighting herself instead of dumping him because he's a thief

AnniaT · 2022-02-27T21:20:31+00:00

I just saw this. He stole her card. It's a crime. No amount of cOmMuNiCaTe will change a thief/scammer/manipulator. She needs to dump his ass and block and delete as soon as possible.

karate_lambchops · 2022-02-27T21:10:05+00:00

I love how he tried to get the pin from her in an impaired state smh. He’s just mad his plan to get her confidential card info while she was half asleep didn’t work. Quick, wise thinking on her part for sure

kaoutanu · 2022-02-28T00:21:18+00:00

I'd put money on it he's an addict.

Your ordinary bludger will have this conversation before leaving with the card, or demonstrate an increasing pattern of behaviour. They also scrounge non-cash things like accomodation, food, transport, being taken out for dates or vacations.

An addict will create a dramatic, urgent, compelling situation where you must give them money for very good reasons right now, or else, disaster! And it must be cash, and it's a conveniently nice round number. And no, they don't want your practical help or advice. And when you say no you get the hysterical meltdown.

I'm guessing he thought he could use the card without a pin, but got caught because he's trying to get cash out. Breakfast is rarely a nice round $20, but that is about the minimum unit cheap drugs are sold in.

Catz10000 · 2022-02-27T21:11:11+00:00

He's testing to see where her boundaries are. She should run and not be apologetic.

temproaryusername · 2022-02-27T21:03:45+00:00

What kind of loser man in his 30s can't afford $20 for breakfast? God the bar is in hell.

Junior-Lion7893 · 2022-02-27T21:31:40+00:00

Unless y’all have a joint bank account, don’t give him your pin.

He’s not even married to you, and he’s stealing your card to buy breakfast without you knowing?!

This broke ass fool wants to surprise you with breakfast in bed with your credit card? Wtf? Dump him he’s using your resources.

bisanti · 2022-02-27T21:22:31+00:00

Not even 20 bucks to his name. That’s a homeless man.

Tomboy_Chicken · 2022-02-27T21:07:04+00:00

What about HIS credit card? Does he not have $20??? This is 100% about control. So gross

Technical_Moth248 · 2022-02-27T23:09:40+00:00

After stealing from her he tried to pretend he was the victim. The audacity lmaoooo. I would not be giving my pin or any kind of important info to a man I'm not married to. I would bet money he thought a small amount while she was still disoriented from waking up would get her to spill for sure just to appease him. Lucky she was able to firmly say no as I have no doubt his unemployed ass had bigger plans on scamming her.

FUBARfromLSA · 2022-02-27T21:05:50+00:00

Nice fucking try lol

seemed genuinely cOnFuSeD

PanCanAlt01 · 2022-02-27T22:01:25+00:00

My guess is if she would have given him her pin without making a fuss, he would’ve also stopped by the ATM to “help himself” because wouldnt a good girlfriend loan him $400 anyways? It’s no big deal. Why would she make such a fuss /s.

Cestmoivanda · 2022-02-27T21:29:04+00:00

I gave my ex my card because he was buying groceries for ME! It started from there it ended in really ugly places! Not stealing or anything! Just not a good thing.

VintagePallor · 2022-02-27T21:31:40+00:00

The hobosexuals are at it again! I hope the comments are absolutely roasting him and telling her to RUN! (And she's only 24! Imagine supporting a 30 year old child at that age...)

cherrylilith333 · 2022-02-27T21:58:23+00:00

“Out of a job for health reasons” but can’t afford breakfast? What about disability insurance payments, state disability support, fmla, UI, EBT, part time freelance online work etc surely there is some support for this man so he can get a hot breakfast besides raiding his gf’s purse while she’s sleeping. He thinks he is so sneaky. Grocery stores have cameras at the registers. So now he’s on tape getting permission to use her card and access the pin and witnesses to it. Now he can just take a pic of her card and remember her pin and attach it anywhere online, and pay all of his bills at any time in the future. This is disgusting. I know a woman who married a man who was in debt (not like student loans etc but like bad overspending no control debt) and she found out he charged part of her engagement ring on an emergency credit card she never uses and lived in a safe in their home, luckily before the wedding. He went into the card online, resetting her pw via the goddamn communal iPad, and was paying the bare minimum payment monthly so she wouldn’t find out. I guess he thought he’d pay it all off before she realized, but he lost his job three weeks later and missed a payment at the same time that she was getting a credit check for a new car. Surprise! She dumped him and took him to court. This behavior doesn’t stop at credit cards. It’s a thought pattern. I would never even think of doing this. When I’m low on money I buy bread and a bag of oranges — lasts over a week lol. Next it will be a missing pill or an expensive accessory that grew legs and walked away. Losers all of them.

staywiththecrown · 2022-02-28T00:09:48+00:00

All the comments are saying she's not the asshole and are telling her to dump him. Thank goodness

ivesynthed · 2022-02-27T21:38:19+00:00

Yep sounds like my ZV hobosexual ex who would make me feel guilty for any success in my life. Yet I was the one who would make sacrifices to save money while he would spend it like it was burning a hole in his pocket, then shocked pikachu face “why am i broke?!”

Men will never repay you, with money or any other tangible/emotional things. They have been taught to TAKE.

herbivorouscarnivore · 2022-02-28T00:52:23+00:00

My late husband wouldn’t even go through my purse when I expressly gave him permission (ie “could you take my phone out of my purse?”) He’d bring it to me, apologize, and say it felt like he was disrespecting my privacy by opening my purse.

I’m worried that OOP thought her title sounds bad. She needs to dump this sketchy scrote. This was just a ploy to get her PIN number so he could go splurge at a later date:

RussianAsshole · 2022-02-28T01:12:27+00:00

“I feel like I was such an asshole here”

Society has done a magnificent job gaslighting women about what basic decency looks like. Jesus, would any man on this fucking earth see himself as an asshole for even a second if the roles were reversed? We can’t even get them to say anything except for “choose better before you hit the wall” when we say that getting used for sex or in this case, even money, makes us gasp feel used.

windowseat4life · 2022-02-27T21:33:13+00:00

Wow there's a lot of gas lighting. Yikes. Even aside from that, why didn't he buy the breakfast groceries himself? He acts like $20 isn't much to argue about - then why didn't he just buy it? Why take her card for it? And you don't need a pin# to use a credit or debit card, especially for such a small amount. It seems like he was testing the waters & maybe going to misuse her card after he had the pin# for it.

modernmedusaa · 2022-02-27T22:39:16+00:00

Moody little thieving scrote, kick him out!

New fraud prevention advice for women : store card up bum crack to stop midnight thieves from balling out

vforvendetta87 · 2022-02-28T02:17:01+00:00

Good ol’ DARVO.

He stormed off and is ignoring her for HIS behavior. What a manipulative piece of shit.

preppykat3 · 2022-02-27T21:52:49+00:00

They’re not getting a penny from me. Dirty scrotes. They want EVERYTHING these days!

ArugulaIsAwesome · 2022-02-28T03:00:03+00:00

Honestly, I think his response to everything is a bigger flag than him taking the card in the first place.

Any normal human would just apologize.

She’s not the one making a big deal out of it he is.

Sewud · 2022-02-27T21:36:29+00:00

It seems even worse when the older man is less emotionally mature than the younger woman. Like a lot of men expect a mommy girlfriend, but it seems so unnatural to be asked by someone older to mommy him.

oscine23 · 2022-02-27T22:36:50+00:00

People forget that you don’t have to agree with someone’s point of view to respect it. All he had to do was apologize and respect the fact that it’s a boundary issue for her and vow not to do it again. Instead he flips it and makes it about his hurt feelings. Drama.

I wonder how many other things she’s paid for since he’s been out of work to make him feel entitled to go into her wallet like that. They’ve only been dating eight months. Buying breakfast “for us” with her money, without asking. SMH. I can smell the LVM from here.

Jiou112 · 2022-02-28T02:28:47+00:00

Imagine if he was able to purchase without a pin! He never would have told her. That's scary.

Geocities_SEO_Expert · 2022-02-27T21:43:12+00:00

On top of the theft, he's trying to manipulate her to subsidize his week of groceries. Where's the $20 going? You can go to Dollar Tree and get pancake mix, syrup, a dozen eggs, almost half a pound of sausage, a big bag of frozen fruit, and Jumex juice. That's a whole buffet for under $8.

shyadventurer56 · 2022-02-27T21:36:51+00:00

Holy shit, he actually went through her stuff, perhaps her bag, while she slept 😱😱🤢 that is disturbing!!! And also, if it’s not a big deal then he should pay instead 👀😩 Run babe run 🏃‍♀️

jupitaur9 · 2022-02-27T22:59:35+00:00

He wasn’t going to buy them breakfast. He was going to make her buy them breakfast. And now any time he wanted to buy something, he’d steal her card and use it.

Could even clone her card and then use the clone and PIN. Very quick to do, then use a swipe-only terminal.

scorchedsouI · 2022-02-28T06:00:56+00:00

The males who cross boundaries and then act like confused victims are pure filth. I don't know how she wasn't driven mad with rage at this reaction.

_cnz_ · 2022-02-28T07:07:38+00:00

Tbh he probably tried to use the card first expecting it didn’t need a PIN number to use it. Then he calls her purposely asking for her PIN number instead of asking for permission (like any sane person would). It’s a classic abuser tactic intended to coerce a victim into a specific act by literally rushing the decision making process and limiting her choices to elicit a fawn response.

Good on this girl for staying strong. If she was any younger though, I feel as though she would’ve fallen for it. It’s shit like this is why dating older men is not advisable for younger women.

itsirrelevant · 2022-02-27T22:04:45+00:00

I know in this sphere it's completely unacceptable to date someone with no money or in the stages of dealing with any kind of personal crises, so obviously regardless she is going against what this sub stands for.

Outside of that context though even if we're talking about people who do think it's ok to date unemployed or struggling people he still fucking stole her credit card. The audacity 🤦

Regardless of what your stance is on dating people in financial trouble it should be a given that you shouldn't allow your partner to attempt to steal your money. This is why this sub is needed, as a wake-up call to so many who are being used and tricked who are so conditioned into being "kind and understanding" that they think there is any world where one should forgive someone who tried to rob them. Even worse, that somehow they are inconsiderate for not being ok with attempted robbery. Jesus Christ man it's bad out there.

up_d00t · 2022-02-28T09:38:05+00:00

I had an ex list me as a guarantee on a loan he didn't ask me about. I got a phone call from the loan company and told them I was a student and had no method nor will to pay and then claimed I didn't recognise the name and got him listed as a fraud risk. Because fuck him. That's why. Even a decade ago I gave no shits. I froze my credit and dumped him

aquietsword · 2022-02-28T05:57:03+00:00

Pos gold digging scrote is a parasite and somehow she's thinking she messed up??

Muffcakelord · 2022-02-28T09:02:04+00:00

The red flag here is taking 0 (zero) responsibility for her getting hurt when he essentially did a crime

ShieldMaidenLagertha · 2022-02-28T10:24:36+00:00

See how sly he was?! Ask for the pin on a mundane, quotidian $20 purchase and then he has it for whatever he wishes.

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cryptohobo · 2022-02-28T21:21:43+00:00

What was the point of going alone if he was going to have to get in touch with her for the pin? Lol exactly. 🏌️‍♀️

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