CMV: Normal women get ignored.

DifficultyUnlucky215 · 2023-11-15T03:10:09+00:00

They don't get ignored. Maybe below average get ignored more often (even then way less relative to below average men), not average.

Source: All of my girl friends are normal women who get way more likes than they can even begin to handle.

nonplussedminus · 2023-11-14T23:27:19+00:00

Those normal women just need to take a shower, do basic grooming, hit the gym and volunteer at the local soup kitchen and I'm sure they'll meet the right person. You know, you can't just expect a man to notice you while sitting at home doing nothing.

biscuitcatapult · 2023-11-14T22:38:05+00:00

“Normal” women on dating apps ignore >95% of men on dating apps by swiping left right away.

I think you’ve got the whole “who ignores who” thing backwards.

polyaddictia · 2023-11-15T02:22:15+00:00

CMV: LillithOfBabylon posts get ignored by anyone with a shred of intelligence

FutureBannedAccount2 · 2023-11-14T22:30:37+00:00

I’d say this is obviously false considering how many normal women complain about men approaching them in public.

DrawRevolutionary483 · 2023-11-14T23:14:05+00:00

I was raised mainly by women and ever since i was a kid they taught me how to be good boy and most importantly how to be a good husband for my future wife, i remember the thing they constantly repeated to me was "if you re not a nice guy, you re unworthy of love, no woman will ever love you", paired with other stuff like "women arent sexual objects" or "be their friend first otherwise you dont see them as people" along with many self depreciating beliefs about men, about how horrible we men are, how much we are a drain in womens' lives, that we should be better, that women are always right because look at how much of a poor victim they are from men's shitty behavior, that i should be grateful and feel lucky if a woman loves me, that i should make a huge effort to show a woman that im different, that thinking highly of myself made me arrogant, that a woman deserves queen treatment since first second cuz they are better than men, many people can already imagine how much this helped me growing up.

Is funny, obviously my succes was very lackluster, and to see other guys who were waaay worst than me on paper, not just on shallows aspects, but on character, being bad, abusive, manipulative, getting openness from women (it includes everything, i was taught sex is an expression of love, but also that the love of a woman goes beyond that), to see men like those getting love with absolutely no effort (not just sex, women would chase them, cry over them, beg for their attention, Fight over them, suffer heartbreak from them) , ....while i was doing everything to be liked, that shit hurts, really bad, cuz they are worthy despite being total POS, but me, the one who is trying hard, im not worthy? I once managed to date a normal girl, only for her to get bored of me and ghost me, it was only them "toxic" girls the ones who would give me some attention and "appreciate" ( more like take advantage) of my efforts, but not with actions, just with words of praise, which i was so starved that in was more than enough, obviously while they said that to me, they were fucking some low life on the side, found it out the hard way.

Why do i say toxic in quotations? Because in plain sight they didnt look or behave toxic with me, they would just praise me for being such a nice guy, that they wish all men were like me and bla bla bla, the never did something that could be considered toxic, a few times when i refused to fulfill their whims they would get angry at me, which would make me feel like shit, after all, i was taught that if a woman gets angry at me, i must ve done something wrong, and it made sense, because i wasnt treating them "nice", i didnt want to be an asshole who is just there for sex, so i kept treating them "nice" to show i have good intentions, (nice in quotations because it was just special treatment, not really something that made me a better or worst person)

You can say i was putting a façade, but if that was the truth then i wouldnt had feel bad about it, i would have just though "oh shut my act isnt working, time to change it", obviously my first though was "why are they even attracted to such a low life like that while im considered boring?" When i asked the women in my life, they didnt tell me those women were toxic or whatever, what they told me was "she is learning, she is confused, she just needs to go through a healing process, it is normal, she ll see the value in you after she goes through that process, that she is confused, that she doesnt knows her worth" honestly shit like that didnt make me feel better, it only made me feel like a second choice, like a safety net, why do i even have to wait for so long for a girl to understand maybe the known player of the block isnt the best choice? Even the best advice i would get from men was "be an asshole to them", which obviously i didnt want to be an asshole, i wanted to be a nice person but also, like any other human being, i wanted to be loved, respected, appreciated, the normal girls always rejected me, while the "toxic" ones rejected me with extra steps, but gave me enough reciprocation to think my efforts were worth something, it was only growing up, by mere luck and because i applied red pill tactics, that i learned those women were awful, they were the ones putting a façade, is only when i got the love i wanted so much than i learned those women are very different behind close doors but they are excellent at playing victim in public, but i learned that myself after a lot of pain, no one, not even normal women taught me those women were toxic, instead they made excuses for them.

babazuki · 2023-11-15T01:39:00+00:00

You're suggesting men should judge women based on their past relationships and sexual history. Yeah, men already do that. You don't need to tell them to do that.

_Remember_me_not_ · 2023-11-15T09:43:33+00:00

With how capable, strong and independent women are now a days, it's baffling that they still adhere very religiously to the "patriarchal" rule that men must approach them and they will sit upon the throne like a princess who needs to be impressed by a throng of princes.

Are all these so called "normal women" or the mirror image of the "nice guys", deaf, dumb, blind, or disabled in any other form or bound to some basement by some criminals that they cannot take a few steps and approach the men they like or want to know more about and ask them out? Or is their "internalized misogyny" not allowing them to talk to the men first?

Chemical_Major_1403 · 2023-11-14T22:25:40+00:00

People hate on men for so long that I don't know how to defend them , women really have the audacity to call out a small number of men and use them as a general rule but bitche about men who do the same

AloneOnTheStrange · 2023-11-14T22:40:51+00:00

Men notice loud and flirty girls who are always hollering for attention.

Men notice quiet and shy girls who keep to themselves.

Men notice women. All women, of even slightly decent attractiveness. You know what testosterone does to a man? You physically cannot not notice a woman, even a not particularly attractive one. You step into a room, and within less than a minute you've sussed out every woman there.

macone235 · 2023-11-14T22:45:46+00:00

Normal women don't get ignored. They get plenty of attention from men out of their league, and it's this fact that creates delusion in them, which leads to implied rejection for most men. This results in half of men not approaching any woman regardless of how attractive she is. So while normal women may not get ignored, they'll probably struggle to find a proper relationship unless they take the initiative.

flexible-photon · 2023-11-15T01:37:22+00:00

I'm sure if the normal women would take better pictures they would get more attention

Gold_Supermarket1956 · 2023-11-15T01:44:39+00:00

The problem is those normal women who would be average don't see a male who's average as on their level... They see a male 5 as below a female 5.... That's the damn issue when in reality she's not better she just has more sexual access and less relationship access because those guys above her are just gonna cum. In her and delet the number

SeveralLiterature980 · 2023-11-15T09:22:37+00:00

I realize this perspective is the result of guys ignoring women who are normal

Never happened. Entire OP predicated on a premise so false that a basic google search would reveal how nonsensical it is.

Educate yourself about the "facts" or "assumptions" that undergird your entire OP

Grade: F

Barely-moral · 2023-11-15T01:04:31+00:00

Normal women get ignored

No. Normal women have men interested in them and willing to date them.

I'm referencing “Nice Guys Finish Last”, which is basically complaining that women will say they want a good guy, but go after assholes instead. I realize this perspective is the result of guys ignoring women who are normal.

So... you are not talking about normal women actually being ignored but about normal women not being taken into consideration when men make that argument... ok... lets see how you follow this...

The nice guys don't realize they're doing the very same thing they're accusing women of doing.

They are not doing the same because normal women have men interested in them and willing to date them.

These guys will hyper-focus on dysfunctional/terrible women and then accuse the whole female population of being that way.

If there are more dysfunctional/terrible women than women interested in them then they have a point.

They’re not mad that women dont want good men. They’re mad the women THEY WANT dont want good men.

No. They are mad that bad men get better results than them.

The women they want are the women who are desperate for male attention.

They want any woman.

The women they want have extremely low standards compared to other women.

They want any woman.

Men have a savior complex and hoping to be rewarded in pussy for being a savior.

They want any woman.

The kinds of women I see guys obsess with and/or think are the average women:

Women who date jobless drug addicts.

Women who date proud misogynists.

Women who date career criminals.

Women who want to marry killers.

Women who practice risky sexual behavior.

Women who are constantly in abusive relationships.

No... Men want any woman and find it frustrating that jobless drug adicts, proud misogynists, career criminals, killers and abusers get more women interested in them than the boring nice guy.

Remember. Men want any woman. They are not making a distinction between good and bad women. Any.

This is the typical response you will see when warning guys that the women they’re pursuing are not good.

Irrelevant. ANY WOMAN. No distinction. Men don't have enough options to be picky. ANY.

So guys will complain about women not wanting good men….but will keep pursuing women who clearly dont want good men and will make excuses for her?

Men pursue ANY woman. No distinction.

Claiming ‘women are good at deception and manipulation’ rings hollow when people warn guys about the red flags and the warnings go ignored.

Any. Woman. Men can't be picky. ANY.

“They’re not mad that women dont want good men. They’re mad the women THEY WANT dont want good men.” This is a unisex problem where a person claims they want a good moral person or someone who appreciates them, but they actually just want a particular type of person to appreciate them and/or have good morals. They just want to claim they JUST want someone with good morals and appreciate them.

Too complex for something that is waaay more simple. Men want any women and make no distinction. Being picky is done only if you have options. Most men don't have it. So it is any woman without making any distinction.

“The women they want are the women who are desperate for male attention.” The women I keep noticing that are accused of being AWALT typically are desperate for male attention. With sluts, alot of hypersexuality is fueled by wanting male attention for validation. With women who keep staying with terrible men, alot of them are codependent and scared of being alone. Women who are stable typically have a life to live and dont have time to cater to men to that extend.

Too complex for something that is waaay more simple. Men want any women and make no distinction. Being picky is done only if you have options. Most men don't have it. So it is any woman without making any distinction.

Also, if you can afford to be picky, a woman that is codependent and scared of baing alone is better than one that is not.

“The women they want have extremely low standards compared to other women”. This is similar to point 2. Because these women are desperate for male attention, they’re less picky than most women. For example, if a guy doesnt have a good job or good education, it obviously makes sense to go after women that dont care about that.

Too complex for something that is waaay more simple. Men want any women and make no distinction. Being picky is done only if you have options. Most men don't have it. So it is any woman without making any distinction.

Also, if you can afford to be picky, a woman that has low standards compared to other woman is better than an alternative that has hight standards.

“Men have a savior complex and hoping to be rewarded in pussy for being a savior.” This toes back into ‘nice guys arent as nice as they think they are’, because so many seem to not take abuse seriously. It’s more like “Why would she be with him when she should be with me?!” Women in abusive situations, especially if theyre always in abusive relationships, need help, not a boyfriend. However, for a guy who wants to charm women with his niceness, of course an abuse victim would be the ‘perfect match’.

Too complex for something that is waaay more simple. Men want any women and make no distinction. Being picky is done only if you have options. Most men don't have it. So it is any woman without making any distinction.

Also, it makes perfect sense for anyone with two braincells working together that a woman being abused by her boyfriend picked the wrong guy and literally any man that is not an abuser should be in her boyfriend's place and the world would be a better place for it.

BigPoleFoles52 · 2023-11-14T23:06:05+00:00

Normal woman arent ignored, men just wont go out of their way to court them the same way they would a stacey. These woman could ask men out and have pretty decent success but we all know they would rather die than have to ask a man out LOL

FillThisEmptyCup · 2023-11-15T08:11:18+00:00

Thanks, I really like reading single digit IQ submissions.

Turbulent-Tonight975 · 2023-11-15T01:32:53+00:00

I think you overestimate what men actually want from women.

I have met most of my previous girlfriends in person with apps being the exception. If I asked the question of 'what percent of women that match with me (assuming I just swipe right on everything for time sake) are prettier than ANY of my last 4 girlfriends', I would have to answer that at least 90+ percent of my matches on Tinder, Hinge, or Bumble were less physically impressive than my last 4 exes.

I use the benchmark of commited relationship because a woman is publically aligning herself with me, investing time, money and emotions in the relationship, and is forging other options.

Again, 90% of the matches on these apps are not better looking than a single of my last 4 girlfriends. I think what is happening is men are frustrated that it is so rare for guys to match with women on their level in apps, and how just finding a woman on his level is a nightmare.

Men want a few things: don't be a whore, don't be psycho, don't be a raging bitch, don't be massively overweight. That is about it. Be pleasant and enjoyable to be around and take minimal care of herself. The problem is men with these low standards struggle to meet women because so many women are lied to by their friends and society that they are stunning 10s who deserve an amazing man. That is the frustration. Men are frustrated that women would rather chase men that have no chance of comitting with them over dating someone on her level who would.

wtknight · 2023-11-14T22:40:36+00:00

Normal women don't get ignored. They just aren't as often wanted for relationships. The problem is, most men would love to be in this situation, because they are perfectly fine with having a lot of no-strings-attached sex. Therefore, most men usually aren't sympathetic with the struggles of normal women.

tonyghow · 2023-11-15T01:10:16+00:00

No. You’re trying to shift the blame as if men and women behave equally in the dating market. Men have their faults but women are surely attracted to bad boy qualities in the hopes of changing the man.

As to your theories: 1. Men don’t get to choose. They shoot their shot at most women and get rejected. Men are mad that most women don’t want them, regardless of the woman’s mental health or her life choices. 2. All women are desperate for male attention at one or more points in their lifetime. 3. All women have high standards relative to their own market value (inflated by simps). Which means, men who are within range of a match will get shot down. Those men may have to lower their standards to get a relationship or sex, but they don’t really want those low value women. 4. Based. This is the only theory that works. Men are natural providers. We want to feel needed. So rescuing a woman from herself in return for sex is a great reward. Women do the same except they try to reform a bad boy into a nice guy and then complain. But it’s less benevolent. She just wants the whole package.

One you missed is that men want a freak in the sheets and a lady in the streets. That could be interpreted as a flawed requirement, but it’s a preference nonetheless. But that doesn’t mean that they knowingly go for dysfunctional women. Unless you’re implying that dysfunctional women are the best at sex. Are you?

The kinds of women I see guys obsess with…

Your list of women behaving badly is very telling. You’re implying that a not-insignificant portion of women go for bad men. I believe that’s true, at least in the beginning of a relationship. Then they have a kid, get abused, complain, and leave. Creating yet another dysfunctional single mom. Eventually they will settle for a beta good guy that doesn’t get them wet but will help her take care of little Billy Chad.

It is what it is.

Konoha_Shinobee · 2023-11-15T02:03:41+00:00

No not every woman wants a drug dealer, abuser,killers,etc. over a nice guy.

The trigger for the "nice guys" who make such complaints is that there are more women that would date a killer, drug dealer or whatever, than women that would date them (not men in general, just them)

Meaning send them to the bars with a known killer, and the killer has a better chance of getting laid than the "nice guy".

This doesn't imply that women like killers, it just means the "nice guys" are very unattractive for whatever reason. Whatever positive qualities they have don't sum up to be worth more than another man, even if that other man is an abuser.

Onefamiliar · 2023-11-14T22:36:15+00:00

Normal women, no, ugly women... Still no. Even ugly women can reap the benefits of hypergamy.

ICU8a8 · 2023-11-15T02:26:32+00:00

The lengths women will go to to maintain victim status is amazing.

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StupidSexySisyphus · 2023-11-15T01:10:29+00:00

Maybe a not totally normal guy doesn't want to date a not totally normal woman? What the hell do you define as "normal" here with those sweeping generalizations - a boring person?

You're right and I'm really not into plain Jane, but I'm also an alternative person myself and plain Jane and I won't get along regardless. A woman that wants high earning mayonnaise is spicy CPA accountant man isn't going to like me anyway. Even if she's physically attracted to me, our personalities and Worldviews won't mesh well.

What does that matter in that event if neither one of us have any attraction to one another or shared commonality? Also give me a break with the women engaging in risky behavior. I'll have sex with someone on the first date if the chemistry is good, but I'm not actively seeking that out. Use a condom. That's being responsible. Life happens. Stop being such a stick in the mud and that's probably your main issue with dating.

Go have some fun and relax. You don't sound fun at all. Stop with all the judgements. Go find a Conservative Christian guy or whatever if you wanna time warp back to 1950 if that's your value system.

Ackee_an_Salfish · 2023-11-15T00:32:05+00:00

Based on the male loneliness epidemic and the “Pig Woman” video on YouTube, you’re VEEEEERY mistaken lol. If what you said was true “normal” women wouldn’t be getting laid and we know that’s not true.

The problem is A LOT of women will look at a guy who she think is her “looks equivalent” or “normal” when in fact that man isn’t either of those things. Statistics show that women swipe right only 30% of the time. Another survey found that women saw an average of 80% of men to be “unattractive”. Like ugly. I’m sorry but this post just isn’t even close to true

Lina-Inverse · 2023-11-15T00:44:54+00:00

Normal women get ignored by Chad.

No-Click9406 · 2023-11-15T04:41:14+00:00

normal women aren't ignored because men don't want them, they are ignored because they don't know how to give men signs that it is okay to approach them.

the women that are loud and attention seeking know how to play the game and get the men that participate in the game.

AdEffective7894s · 2023-11-15T04:52:40+00:00

If normal women are being ignored perhaps they are below average.

As women on here say you get what you deserve - that's is your smv.

An incel is getting what he deserves And if average women are getting ignored ( which is your assertion not mine) then she is getting what she deserves

Naragub · 2023-11-15T06:15:59+00:00

How do you know for certain they aren’t just below average and entitled?

John_Oakman · 2023-11-14T22:34:25+00:00

Counterpoint: the same data/stats that shows most people of both genders are in relationships can also be used against this just as it's used against the manosphere faction.

SupposedlySapiens · 2023-11-15T00:14:19+00:00

Theory #1 is the big one. Most men have options in terms of women, they just don’t like the options.

Rentfree699 · 2023-11-14T22:54:46+00:00

Delusional Lilith post #395729.

Ok-Remove3693 · 2023-11-15T03:51:04+00:00

What I’ve learned is men have this chip on their shoulders nowadays, and have created a scenario that is popular to run with, that they have all the hardships and only bad things ever happen to men. and never woman. Everyone throws a pity party for men now and women are just “evil monsters”

Manbehindthemask2468 · 2023-11-15T00:45:29+00:00

WRONG!

infps · 2023-11-15T01:30:31+00:00

My current LTR is drop-dead gorgeous, very healthy, and has a PhD.

Notably, she has wept in my arms about how lonely she was for years before we found each other.

I think probably, realistically, """neither""" """side""" understands what the other is going through, in all kinds of cases.

Ackee_an_Salfish · 2023-11-15T10:27:36+00:00

Funny how this girl is complaining about being ignored yet is an active member of “incel tears”. Well who’s the incel now? lol laughs at men who can’t get laid but she can’t get a man to commit. “Insin” is the female version on “incel”… “Involuntarily Single”!!!!😂😂😂😂😂. Karma’s hilarious

makko007 · 2023-11-15T01:52:46+00:00

Got the whole male population pissed off over a valid observation lol great post btw

Digital-Bionics · 2023-11-15T02:38:29+00:00

I think you make a good point

youwantmore · 2023-11-14T23:04:47+00:00

I don’t think this is a bad take at all and I wholly agree with a lot of your lines of thinking about men choosing terrible women. Personally I think that at the end of the day, neither should be complaining and have to take personal responsibility for choosing those with red flags and (hopefully) make better choices when it comes to partners in the future.

What I think you’re missing is though that the general public opinion is that “men are trash” and have to “do better”. And then terrible women are telling those similarly terrible guys, and the good guys they do meet, those things but that is applauded by society. It’s more so in these spaces where the male complaining about relationships is tolerated although I will say it’s become more prevalent.

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CraftyCooler · 2023-11-15T08:59:07+00:00

Well this was something i was trying to explain to my friend who was chasing wrong girls all his youth lol. He was a really smart guy, but he was chasing girls that were looking for much older guys having cool cars, motorcycles, able to pay for vacation, some were even hanging out with local gangsters etc. He was getting some attention from them - but they were always only into some specific type of guy. Explaining him that these girls are not really for guys like us was impossible.

Meanwhile there were plenty of normal and nerdy girls around. It took him 10 years to finally realize that he was an idiot - and ofc shortly after he found really great girl and got married.

MxMaster9907 · 2023-11-15T09:52:00+00:00

There’s a book called “why men go for bitches” or something like that. Which is basically the whole “women don’t want nice guys” but reversing the genders.

Prestigious-Delay759 · 2023-11-15T13:57:39+00:00

I agree with 90% of the above.

You're hitting upon a lot of things even a freshman psychology class would tell you about why people become codependent or stay in/seek out abusive relationships regardless of gender.

I've had plenty of friends and acquaintances of both genders that were in physically or emotionally abusive relationships or in codependent relationships or just in relationships with losers where they obviously could have done better and even had better options but kind of ended up ignoring them. All for the most part fell into the categories you mentioned above even the bit about women needing sexual romantic attention to validate themselves because something in their past leaves them starved for male attention. That even has applied to people I've known of multiple genders with same-sex partners. It's almost as if a person has enough negative interactions with one gender (even if it's not like a parent or relative it can just be socially) then they get a pathological insecurity and look for people that have similar traits to the people that were dicks to them (of that gender) and then try to befriend them or date them to get some sort of relief to the insecurity that the trauma created in them.

The only thing I would add to all of this is that the savior complex can work the other way as well.

I've known a ton of men and a few women who were obsessed with the romantic notion that the right partner will transform you or will make you want to change for them or will as Jack Nicholson put it in that one cringy '90s movie "...she makes me want to be a better man".

So I've seen these people completely let a partner abusively pressure them into completely changing their religion, completely cutting off friends and family, abandoning their hobbies and passions that brought them joy, and do a variety of things that they actively disliked and felt uncomfortable with.

And I'm not complaining about some gal or guy that used to hang out that now spends more time with their partner that's totally normal and fine.

I'm talking about them actively talking about how uncomfortable they are with all the changes and then them going through with them for years and years and then as soon as the relationship is over immediately going back to their hobbies and beliefs and habits from before.

I've known people that had no interest in hallucinogens or hard drugs that were suddenly doing large amounts of both because their partner was into the clubbing/rave/etc scene.

I've known people that were very sex positive and expressive and open suddenly talking about how their partner insists that Jesus/Gaia/spirits/etc. needs to be in bedroom with them and their partner and they have to have sex in the missionary position with the lights out and they're only allowed to f*** every other week when their partner says that God/Angels/spirits or whatever say it's the morally acceptable time to do so, and masturbation is the same as infidelity and talking and thinking about sex outside of their time together is impure and sinful.

Similarly I have friends that were extremely vanilla with low sex drives and even some that identified as being somewhere on the ace spectrum who were suddenly always talking about how scared and uncomfortable they were with everything that was going on in the bedroom but they just kept doing it.

Funny clip that for me actually brought up a lot of painful memories because I've literally had more than one friend of multiple genders and of multiple persuasions be Michael in this conversation. https://youtu.be/tkQXS9VClZo?si=x3QphUkX-5vJNEbu

I have friends that were atheists and some that were pagans/animists that got baptized went to church did all the stuff during the whole relationship and felt horrible about it and then went back to the way they were before. But I also have friends that were members of typical Christian denominations and and two Jewish friends who totally joined other religions and were extremely uncomfortable about being pressured to do so and we're unhappy and despondent the entire time and as soon as the relationship is over they went back to their previous faith.

My social group is filled with tabletop RPGs and magic the gathering and comic book collecting and toy collecting and video games and all that sort of stuff. We've had about the same number of men and women in our peer group and acquaintances (from places where there are tournaments/events/etc.) show up and give everything away or sell it for pennies on the dollar. It's so extreme that you start asking people, "oh my God are they okay, this is a sign of being suicidal" and then you inevitably get the response "oh no they're just in a new relationship and they're partner thinks it's all f****** stupid so they had to get rid of their passions or get rid of the partner". And a startling number of people would laugh at this and find it amusing and seem to think that it's a normal thing to do. The sort of extreme stuff is normalized for a significant percentage of people.

And then a few months or a few years later you see them come back all depressed because the relationship is over and also they destroyed a collection of stuff they built up over their entire life and now have nothing to show for it and it's very bittersweet for them to get back into the hobbies.

I have even more examples of this and it's all the same thing where people think that their partner is going to be transformative and they think it is entirely normal for the partner to ask them to just give up everything for the relationship and completely conform to their new partner's passions and wants and subjective opinions.

Don't get me wrong it is normal for healthy couples to compromise and to try and develop hobbies in common and interests in common and to work to improve themselves.

I've known dozens of healthy couples where one person was a little s***** at cleaning or at personal finance or timeliness and together they worked on it and that person improved on those life skills. But that said there's something objectifying and dehumanizing about meeting someone and saying "oh wow all these things that aren't objective faults I'm still going to change all of them".

Also, lest anyone be confused about what I said above, when people have minor issues sometimes they can grow and change but in general you should never assume that you can fix someone's major problems or that someone can fix your major problems. That's not what a relationship is about. A relationship isn't a magic pill that will fix everything. A relationship is not going to save you from your addiction or whatever your horrific personal issues are. You need to get your s*** straight before you can hope to be in a healthy relationship it's the only way for it to be fair to yourself and be fair to your partner.

Plazmatron44 · 2023-11-15T14:42:48+00:00

Barring a severe physical deformity or mental illness there's no such thing as a female incel.

Leaving-trunk1 · 2023-11-15T15:45:55+00:00

Good. Eye for an eye and that.

TheMedsPeds · 2023-11-15T18:17:52+00:00

As a women who hasn’t been approached much. I agree with this. Even when I did dating apps I never had close to “hundreds of likes” maybe 25-30 tops.

meisterkraus · 2023-11-16T16:40:52+00:00

You don't describe normal. If normal equals average then my experience is different. I am attracted to from below to above average. The results have been the same. There is no interest in me. Part of the problem could be that some women are bad at showing interest. They act friendly to show interest instead of overt acts. This could be from not having the skills or low self esteem. A decent man will see this as them not being interested and will stop pushing, making the women feel like she is being ignored.

Title	CMV: Normal women get ignored.
Author	LillthOfBabylon
Upvotes	0
Comments	299
Date	November 14, 2023 10:23 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17ve28h/cmv_normal_women_get_ignored/
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