Q4M: Would you want your daughters to date a redpiller?

Sessile-B-DeMille · 2023-11-08T21:00:26+00:00

I have two daughters and I'd tell either of them to stay away from any "man" that followed Andrew Tate. Not that I'd need to, they both have better judgment than to get involved with someone who listened to him or his ilk.

BillyPilgrim75 · 2023-11-08T20:59:48+00:00

I feel incredibly old, not knowing who Mr Beast is and only knowing Tate by reputation, and that's mostly the sick, criminal shit.

And pity us all if there ever is a world where someone calling himself Mr. Beast is the most viable option for a young woman. No gun to his head when he chose that moniker. Maybe some irony?, but still. That's what he came up with.

So on what I know, my daughter may some day become Mrs. Beast if I get a vote.

I've lived too long.

wtknight · 2023-11-08T23:22:22+00:00

There is no way that I would want my daughter to date a Red Piller. I would want her to date someone who actually likes women and wants them to be equals.

Friedrich_Friedson · 2023-11-08T20:29:17+00:00

The first one.

Although i don't like either

BatemaninAccounting · 2023-11-08T22:42:18+00:00

Absolutely not. I'd do anything emotionally and physically I could do to prevent her from doing so. If anything reverse psychology that shit since many teens will fight you on what you hate, so make it out that the red pill dude is amazing and they should get married(which will turn her off of him because most teen girls don't wanna think about marriage.)

PM_ME_YOUR_DONGERZ · 2023-11-08T19:35:48+00:00

A guy whose primary identity is "redpiller" or "antifeminist" is probably just as bad as a guy whose primary identity is "(team sport) fan" or "h3h3 watcher"

FutureBannedAccount2 · 2023-11-09T01:42:23+00:00

I'd tell her to flip a coin. Heads being the 'normal' guy and tails being the 'red pill' guy. Whichever side it lands on that's who she should date. If it lands on a side and she doesn't like that answer then I'd tell her go for the other guy.

Proudvow · 2023-11-09T03:47:50+00:00

Would you want your daughters to date a redpiller?

No. I don't like how women are attracted to dark triad personalities or those emulating them through the red pill. It just is what it is.

We saw what type of men fathers chose for their daughters when parents had the power, and it wasn't red pillers. The red pill problem comes from relatives being removed from the selection process, killing moral vetting and leaving partner choice up to looks/excitement/etc.

peteypete78 · 2023-11-08T19:57:27+00:00

An actual RP guy sure.

The meme boogieman version paddled around here and in your OP, no.

Onefamiliar · 2023-11-08T20:48:42+00:00

Fresh n Fit and Andrew Tate are not red pill lmao 🤣

thedarkracer · 2023-11-08T19:39:18+00:00

As Geralt said, if I were to choose between a bad and a worse choice, I would never choose at all.

LowCreddit · 2023-11-08T21:17:47+00:00

Team sports and Barbie are awesome. Mr Beast is just normal brainless content. H3H3 is just a center left YouTuber.

Andrew Tate is a narcissistic criminal. Fresh N Fit is mostly cringe. Making fun of feminists is a patriotic duty.

Honestly, it's not enough to make a decision. Does he go to church? What are his life and relationship goals? None of those traits are important in what makes a man good. You might as well flip a coin.

Cactus2711 · 2023-11-08T23:06:18+00:00

Jesus can we stop using Andrew Twat as the poster boy for the Red Pill?

It’s Tom Leykis, Rollo Tommasi, Patrice O’Neal etc

abaxeron · 2023-11-08T22:25:25+00:00

"I'm an engineer. I solve practical problems. Go to your mother."

The scenario that a man's daughter comes to him for dating advice is already unrealistic. My primary concern would anyway be not to give advice that would maximize her happiness if she follows it (she will not), but just to make sure she doesn't hate me for whatever I respond.

that are physically equivalent

While one plays sports and the other "sticks it to feminists"?

BCRE8TVE · 2023-11-09T09:32:17+00:00

1.

Now pretend you have a son, he has 2 choices.

A woman who likes to cook, clean, follows conservative values, and says she can't wait to have a happy family.
A purple-haired feminist keyboard warrior who spends the majority of her time screeching about how men oppress women through the patriarchy and how masculinity is toxic.

I mean come on, you're not really proving anything here.

Now if I were to ACTUALLY have a daughter consider dating a few guys and one of them was red-piller, I'd sit him down and have a nice chat to figure out what exactly he means by red pill, and try and see if he's the "blue pill has lied to men and women aren't all sugar and spice and everything nice" or if he's the "women are all narcissistic whores who can't mature beyond the age of 15 mentally" kind of redpill. The former I'd be ok with and give him lots of points and counterpoints to help him out, the latter I'd say sorry buddy, you've got a lot of maturing to do yourself, and try and warn my daughter against the negging or other manipulative attempts.

WilliamWyattD · 2023-11-09T00:17:22+00:00

Obviously option 1. His need for some red pilling is a lot less than Option 2's need for deprogramming. But if you made Option 1 some Woke feminist out there at cancel rallies, I'd probably have to shoot them both.

At this point, what is 'red pill'? What is a 'red pilled guy'? There are levels to all of this as more of all of this filters into the culture. What I'd want is her to marry a guy who has an accurate understanding of how gender actually works, including an understanding that it is always a complex dance between nature and nurture.

Barely-moral · 2023-11-08T19:36:40+00:00

She is an adult and is free to make her own choices.

If she is not an adult and those men are equal in all other aspects except the ones mentioned then the second guy seems marginally better but the difference is so small that it is not worth an intervention.

CalmNeedleworker3100 · 2023-11-08T21:21:30+00:00

"enjoyed the barbie movie" or "Andrew Tate fan" Both are really bad options

tired_hillbilly · 2023-11-08T20:57:00+00:00

Both are bad. I don't think it really matters which I pick.

I guess if I pick #2, I can be reasonably sure he isn't a leftist, whereas that's not the case with an H3H3 watcher. So maybe #2 is barely better.

obviousredflag · 2023-11-08T19:50:59+00:00

I'd not want her to date any of the two based on this info, but the normal guy wins out clearly over the red pill guy. My advice for her would be to rather date one of my 40 yo friends.

SlowEffective8146 · 2023-11-08T21:30:30+00:00

How is turbo bluepiller = normal guy. I assure you that the average guy is more redpilled than you think. Even Mr Beast has a huge vetting criteria he just revealed.

NotARussianBot1984 · 2023-11-08T22:04:50+00:00

Oh 100% blue pill.

The issue is most women don't want those men, so am I suppose to teach my daughter to go against society's culture? Sounds like a losing bet. But since in this thread I 100% control my daughter, I'd have her marry a blue pill simpy guy over a guy who is redpill aware.

I'd just have to figure out how to force her to be happy as well...hmm mind control more?

tiddermacss · 2023-11-08T23:15:47+00:00

thats not a red pill guy.. red pill doesn’t mean you have to follow somebody

mods_have_small_ween · 2023-11-09T00:53:52+00:00

Depends on what you define as red pill.

IF its the defacto definition - self imrpovement, learn about how the world works including attraction, seduction, female and male psychology then yes. THat man understands what is expected of him and knows what my daughter would need from him. He's taken the red pill and can make informed decisions. This man will be the best he can be and I can trust that.

If your definition of the red pill is some trad con toxic masculinity shit, ofc not.

SaintVersace · 2023-11-09T03:28:45+00:00

a red piller but not tate or f&f. they have some red pill ideas that are great to live by. but also degenerate views. id rather my daughter date someone like rollo tomassi

Bro_with_passport · 2023-11-09T17:37:33+00:00

Really depends on what the RP guy believes. There’s too many strains of thought for me to judge it. I could honestly go either way.

AreOut · 2023-11-08T19:44:55+00:00

red pill guys follow Tate and F&F only for fun, also spend very little time online because they work on themselves and know that "sticking it to feminists" is futile anyway

kvakerok · 2023-11-08T22:12:23+00:00

spends his time online trying to stick it to feminists.

Actual RP man spends his time getting laid. This:

trying to stick it to feminists.

Is just your butthurt projection.

And yes, no problem with dating RPers.

SecondEldenLord · 2023-11-09T01:11:23+00:00

Why would I mind my daughter dating a traditional man following his traditional role to protect and provide for my daughter? H3H3 and Mr Beast are some of the worst role models to ever follow: one fakes his videos and gives prizes mostly to people who have stuff already and the other is a fat lazy leftist who thinks exercise is the biggest waste of time. At least Andrew Tate is brutally honest about his intentions.

gntlbastard · 2023-11-08T20:54:54+00:00

Give me guy 2, at least I know he will actually provide and protect her during the bad times.

EveningEveryman · 2023-11-08T21:41:31+00:00

The second one of course

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VTHokie2020 · 2023-11-08T21:39:43+00:00

"Normal guy" who follows H3H3. hmmm

The first one, but you're presenting two strawmen here.

DumbWordsmith · 2023-11-08T21:55:03+00:00

The first guy—only because you gave him one positive attribute (athlete).

Given the current cultural climate, that "normal" guy would probably be played in the long run, though, so sucks for him (but good for her).

AFuzzyMuffin · 2023-11-08T23:31:16+00:00

Guy 1 is fine if he has a career path

And my daughter will be taught to look at other women who can't find a decent dude as unskilled

MrBrittle · 2023-11-09T00:07:39+00:00

In real life, there aren't just these two options, especially for a woman. Furthermore, I don't know Andrew Tate and Fresh n Fit's content, I also don't know Mr. Beast and H3H3.

From the description you tried to put a shitty Red Pill and a "normal guy" as options, but the reality doesn't come down to that.

Furthermore, there is so little information that any sensible person would be against dating any of them simply because they are a plunge into the unknown.

AdEffective7894s · 2023-11-09T03:26:24+00:00

I wouldnt do Jack shit.

Both men are displaying traits that are easy to see

She can chose either one and get burnwd or it can be a happy pairing.

It's her life.

If she tries to void responsibility for her actions - I am just gonna hold the mirror to her choices.

I would do the same to my son

Windmill_flowers · 2023-11-09T04:10:17+00:00

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randomness111111111 · 2023-11-09T06:17:40+00:00

If the only choice I will have would be this - yes, sure, a red pill guy.

bifewova234 · 2023-11-09T09:05:08+00:00

Probably the red pill guy because we'd have something in common

Lina-Inverse · 2023-11-09T11:17:12+00:00

Well if you define red piller as andrew tate then obviously you know the answer so why even ask this question.

Though I'll go further and say even if i had a choice between someone who is red pill like myself (who thinks andrew tate is an absolute moron) and a normie/blue piller, I'd still prefer she choose the normie/blue piller as someone like that is much more easily used and she'll always have the upper hand in that relationship.

Sure it will suck to be the guy, but hey someone was always gonna use his naive ass and teach him a lesson so it might as well be my daughter who can get some benefit out of him. I'd probably pity the guy ultimately, but blood is thicker than water.

SoulBadguy0408 · 2023-11-09T15:07:47+00:00

The content on 2 is just more questionable. Can't deny redpill works, but just that 1 is a safer option for her

whatever8482 · 2023-11-11T19:04:58+00:00

Neither but if i had to pick redpill

Cherish_Lifee · 2023-11-12T21:14:25+00:00

blue pill perspective: "you have no say in who your daughter dates anyway and if she loves a murderer who are you to try to control her life".

Q4M: Would you want your daughters to date a redpiller?

Your only two options

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Title	Q4M: Would you want your daughters to date a redpiller?
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