Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?

KikiYuyu · 2024-07-17T16:08:11+00:00

Obviously it's sexist. Anyone who doesn't see that is a sexist.

Though being cautious around strangers isn't the same as assuming that stranger is a predator.

EulenWatcher · 2024-07-17T16:20:35+00:00

Assuming that every man is a predator is sexist. Not trusting a man (or a woman) you don't know well isn't. I wouldn't leave with my kids with a person I didn't know well whatever their gender is. I'm sorry for the OP of that post and it's ridiculous that fathers are treated differently. I wish he got invited to more playdates and maybe he could organize a playdate with parents present, so both kids and parents could socialize.

I think the overall problem isn't in generalizations themselves, but in the outcomes they bring. So because people assume that women aren't interested in sports or cars, female aeromechanics have harder time with clients not taking them seriously or their colleagues mistreating them. Women get less painkillers compared to men in similar situation and it's ridiculous that vasectomy gets anesthesia but putting/removing IUD doesn't. Men having harder times when they have traditionally "feminine" jobs etc.

Critical_Corner_1859 · 2024-07-17T15:59:33+00:00

The guy here is SAHD during summer vacations and his daughter can't get a play date as all other moms are cautious against sending their kids to him alone.

Why did you change it to MOMS? The original post uses PARENTS throughout.

relish5k · 2024-07-17T16:44:52+00:00

It's sexist to assume all men are predators, though young women need to be taught to take reasonable precautions to avoid predators. When she is of age, I will tell my daughter to avoid becoming intoxicated in mixed company, and to only be alone with a man she trusts enough to have dinner with her parents. Is that sexist against men? I don't think so at all.

If there are women who are keeping their kids from playing at this teacher's house with his kids because they are worried he is a rapist, that is silly. I think it's more likely that they are being flaky with him because they don't really see him as a potential friend and would rather socialize with other moms rather than dads. But who knows.

Stereotypes become sexist when they become prescriptive. I think it's totally fair to say that men are more keen on pursuing certain activities or careers. But that shouldn't mean that women can't do those things. Men are more likely to be engineers - maybe it's biological or social or some mix, but regardless it's true. That doesn't mean that women can't be engineers.

2024-07-17T16:57:53+00:00

It’s sexist but it can be justified to an extent. I can understand that some women who have been victimized in the past might hold this view for the their own safety and due to not wanting to be revictimized

MistyMaisel · 2024-07-17T16:10:54+00:00

So, I would say based on your example, this is a tough reality to parse. Predators choose positions of authority/power that also have the veil of morality to them (teachers being a top example). Statistically speaking, men are more likely to predate in certain specific ways, and we aren't talking about most men, most men aren't predators, we're talking about predators who I'd personally dehumanize as being no more than rabid dogs that happen to have a willy.

This then runs up against it being the jobs of parents to protect their children from predators. And the problem is, predators look like well, normal men and women. And most good parents would rather be bigots, sexists, racists, or any other word under the sun than have their child harmed or predated upon. I wouldn't say this is unfair. They aren't being isolated. They can go out to other houses, they can go out into public, they can plan playdates with lots of kids, etc. That complaint sounds a little silly on the face of it and even suspicious.

It is more a tragic reality of what predators do to otherwise good communities and dynamics. It's the having to lock your doors because some people are thieves. It's not letting your kids go somewhere that has a higher chance to be dangerous for any reason. This loss of trust is arguably the unsung damage they do to all of us. Is it sexist? Probably? But not unjustified sexism given that it is about keeping people safe and children.

For me, the question is as simple as: would you send your young daughter over to a man's house that you don't know super well, but through no fault of his own checks all the boxes predators normally check? Similarly, would you send your child into a rough, poor predominantly ethnic neighborhood to prove you aren't a racist? I wouldn't, but that's because I know I'm not a sexist or a racist, I'm someone doing my duty to protect my children based on my best guesses of safety.

Yes and No, it would be sexist to assume women couldn't be those things or would be worse at being those things if they chose to go down that path. It would be sexist to say women aren't interested in those things period. It would be fine to say generally most men are more interested in those things.
No, it would be sexist to assume women cannot tolerate pain to that level or are weaker. It would be sexist to assume this difference is necessarily caused by biology when the study you linked suggests nurture may be to blame for this as well as systems within the medical world.
Yes, it would be sexist to say women cannot handle tough decision making (your article is 404d for me). No, it would not be sexist to say men are more likely to take risks. It would be sexist to say women cannot, do not, or are incapable of taking risks or are bad at it.
Yes and no, that would be sexist. Clearly, men are capable of caring and succeeding in caring professions. Much like 1 here. It really depends on phrasing and intent. It is accurate to say women are generally more people oriented and men are more object oriented. It is inaccurate to say they're incapable of the opposite or would be bad at their opposite or worse shouldn't be their opposite.

Statistics aren't sexist. How they are applied can be.

Five_Decades · 2024-07-17T16:46:19+00:00

I'm a man, I really don't mind it when strange women are wary of me. Something like 99% of all sex crimes are committed by men. When I'm around a strange woman (like if I'm walking alone at night and one is walking in front of me) I will try to give her space by doing something like stopping and playing on my phone for a minute to create distance between me and her so she feels more secure.

Having said that, I can see the nuance.

For example, young black men (teens and early 20s) make up maybe 1% of Americans but commit about 40% of the murders. If someone were wary around every young black male they saw I could understand why people would find that offensive, but at the same time I don't mind the fact that women are wary around strange men like myself.

Theres no cut and dried answer.

2024-07-17T15:57:44+00:00

I think the critical part of the definition is “unfair.”

As a society, we’ve decided that people “deserve” equal access to certain things- school, jobs, eating at restaurants, staying at hotels, etc.

We’ve also decided that people don’t “deserve” equal shots at other things. If a man only wants to date blonds, or a woman only wants to date tall men, we might think they would benefit from some self-reflection, but we don’t think it’s “unfair” that others don’t get to date those particular people.

Most interpersonal interactions are somewhere in-between. Most definitely think you deserve to walk down the street without randos shouting slurs at you. But we don’t all agree that you DESERVE to be alone with someone else’s child.

RecentDegree7990 · 2024-07-17T15:36:58+00:00

As I said in the previous thread if you are cautious towards men because they are overrpresented in crime then how is it different than people that are cautious towards races that are overpresented in crimes?

2024-07-17T15:59:27+00:00

To be fair, redpillers literally do the same shit the other way around with the whole AWALT thing.

The difference is one attitude is mainstream, the other is considered inkwell garbage.

half3mptyhalffull · 2024-07-17T15:59:11+00:00

specifically when it comes to leaving your children in the care of other adults, i think the bigger issue is that many people dont realize that women can be dangerous too. parents need to vet other parents, regardless of whether they are male or female, before leaving their own children with them.

as someone who was creeped on as a kid by some of my friends' parents, i wish my parents had vetted my friends' parents before leaving me with them. that said, the safe parents were some of my favorite people, particularly the safe dads.

assuming a man is a predator simply because he is a man is sexist. being aware that any man could be a predator is not.

Is it sexist to assume women aren't interested in machines or sports as much as men are while the professions of engineers, mechanics and electricians are men.

yes

Is it sexist to assume men can tolerate more pain

yes

assumptions of an individual based on sex alone is not a healthy view imo.

ChicoBrillo · 2024-07-17T16:33:15+00:00

There's a difference between treating someone like they're a predator versus being cautious and not opening up / trusting someone right away.

katecard · 2024-07-17T18:22:17+00:00

No, it is not sexist for women to protect themselves and be cautious of the group that has done women more harm than anything else on earth.

alwaysright12 · 2024-07-17T15:40:25+00:00

They're all sexist except the one about risks

Ikem32 · 2024-07-17T16:50:26+00:00

Potential? Yes. Actual? No.

Inomaker · 2024-07-17T17:26:25+00:00

I think there's a fine line. It's perfectly understandable to be cautious despite the statistics because you can't be certain who could be a predator. I have an issue with it when cautious doubt bleeds into how women view men as a whole.

"I'm not going to let him watch my kid because he could be a predator" is a vastly different mindset than "I'm not going to let him watch my kid because men are predators" I feel that the first is acceptable while the second isn't. Yeah sometimes it hurts and it's frustrating but it's understandable to have cautious doubt. It's pretty much impossible to know a man's intentions until they act. It's best to be cautious but that doesn't excuse a person for being openly hateful and judgemental to innocent men. Respectfully refusing to allow your children to be in the presence of a man in a show of cautious doubt is different than persecuting a man and treating him as if he were actually a predator.

WrathOfFoes · 2024-07-18T14:58:22+00:00

Yes, yes it is. That is not defendable. Any absolute perception about men or women is sexist. That’s a given.

Willing-Chapter-7382 · 2024-07-17T15:34:52+00:00

I'd say it's sexist, ya.

Sophiatab · 2024-07-17T16:16:44+00:00

I would rather be a sexist than a a rape survivor or a murder victim. I assume every man (and most women) I encounter are dangerous until proven otherwise. It's kept me alive so far unlike many of my deceased friends who assumed everyone was as good as they were.

Lovers691 · 2024-07-17T15:45:39+00:00

It is sexist, these same people won't assume all black people(regardless of sex btw) are criminals and would correctly chastise those who do as racist but would do the same towards men

Werevulvi · 2024-07-17T18:23:17+00:00

Imo this is the double stardards of feminism. Are all men potential predators? Yes, but so are technically all women too. If I had kids I wouldn't wanna leave them with a female stranger any more than I'd wanna leave them with a male stranger, but regards to teachers, daycare staff, nurses, docs, etc, you kinda gotta take some risk, assuming you don't wanna hold onto to your kid literally 24/7.

If anything I'd actually be more wary with female strangers, because they can much more easily get away with harming a child than a man could, because no one is suspicious of women, and you're much less likely to be believed if a kid comes forth with having been abused by a woman. Like most people I know who had an abusive parent, nanny, teacher, etc, it was a woman, and they weren't believed. It's extremely rare that I've ever heard of a single dad being abusive.

So for that reason I'd probably be the least worried about the single dads, and more worried about single moms and childless people (although mostly women) who for some reason seem to be obsessed with caring for and rearing other people's kids.

Also for me how I define sexism is any kinda gender related unfairness, aside from purely biological difference. Like it's not sexism to assume that only women menstruate, for example. That's just stating a physical fact. But I think it is sexism to assume any individual woman must be nurturing or emotional, or physically weak or whatever just because on average women have those traits to a larger extent than men, and likewise I think it's sexist to assume any individual man must be violent, aggressive, sexual creep, lacking empathy, strong, etc, just because on average men have those kinda traits to a greater extent than women. Because individual people aren't statistics. We have unique bodies and personalities, unique strengths and weaknesses. Yes, we all fit some kinda gender stereotype, but we can't know for sure who fits which exact stereotypes based purely on their sex.

Also despite men on average more often being predators, most men are still not predatory. There's still only a small percentage of people who are like that.

So basically I think not only is this absolutely sexist to assume any random man must be a predator or has a high risk of being one, but that the fearmongering around men who care for kids in any capacity makes people blind to female predators. Because they get so hyperfocused on the stereotype of the predator towards kids has to be a man, that they forget that anyone could be a predator regardless of sex or what they look like, and they forget they need to also be careful with trusting women.

-Kalos · 2024-07-18T00:22:56+00:00

I don't think they're actually assuming he's a predator but they aren't willing to risk their minor daughter being in a private space where the only adult around is a man. Why can't his daughter visit her friends or meet up in public instead? Or is it her father that wants them to come around instead of have his daughter out with friends?

SaBahRub · 2024-07-17T15:36:17+00:00

It’s sexist until something bad happens, after which it’s the woman’s fault for not being sexist enough, because men can’t help but do rapey violence

“What were you wearing?”

“Why did you date him”

“Choose better”

“Why were you there?”

“Did you do something to provoke him?”

Unkown64637 · 2024-07-17T18:12:21+00:00

When we live in a culture that HEAVILY blames victims for being victimized. Especially in regards to sex crimes, I’d say it’s not surprising to see people taking extreme cautions. My mom didn’t care what pajamas I wore to a friends house if no men were there. If the dad or uncle or any men were there then my pajamas needed to be long pants and a loose fitting shirt. If the parents let their kids go to some randoms man house, even if he has a daughter, and something bad happens… the parents will be blamed for ever allowing them over there. So it’s not weird someone doesn’t want to take a chance with their child. And if that’s sexist oh well. Not when you’d be blamed for your child being raped or molested. Or even worse your own child being blamed for their rape/moleststion. It’s certainly not all men. But if you’re gonna be raped or molested it’s probably going to be a man. In fact you could get your life on it and would be correct something like 98% of the time. If ya don’t like it. Instead of bitching about sexism against men because people won’t randomly send their children to your house. Be a loud outspoken advocate against sexual abuse.

DoubleFistBishh · 2024-07-17T16:17:12+00:00

Genuinely what do y'all actually want women to do? Most women have been sexually harassed at the very least at some point in their lives so that being said do you just want women to stop being cautious of men just because statistics say that doesn't happen that much? Is that really a rational thing to ask?

I think on some level you guys actually do understand this and you know statistics aren't telling the whole story. You're just looking for a "women bad"

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Nihi1986 · 2024-07-17T17:30:35+00:00

It's very sexist indeed and in this case, assuming a woman wouldn't be dangerous in any way would be wrong too...

As a school teacher myself I find it funny, the vast majority of male teachers I have known would never hurt a kid and instead would go out of their way to ensure that the kid is safe and in a healthy environment. Most female teachers too though some of them are honestly way too childish and toxic towards kids but still of course wouldn't physically hurt them.

Based on stats, though... Some violent power hungry people chose to be cops and some pedophiles chose to be teachers or priests... But that's not a problem with cops, teachers or priests, that's a problem with fucked up people.

McPigg · 2024-07-17T17:57:02+00:00

I guess yeah, but its good advice, im teaching that to all my female friends, my niece and i will teach that to my daughter if i ever get one. Ofcourse most are not, but you NEVER know which ones actually are, so better all treat them all with caution until they prove themselves (even then, be a little bit cautious still, there are so many horror stories where the kind, good hearted guy friend she knew for years raped a girl while she was sleeping over drunk of sth - men are dangerous and unpredictable, period.)

NotARussianBot1984 · 2024-07-17T18:03:43+00:00

It's only sexist if it would be racist to apply to while/black.

Jaded-Worldliness597 · 2024-07-17T18:50:59+00:00

I've got a daughter and I'm not going to send her off to play alone at some guys house, BUT I will take some time out in the evening and escort her over to play with another little girl.

I'm not going to lie though... I do not trust lesbians around my kid under any circumstances. I have a zero tolerance policy on that.

But look, if moms don't trust me up front... I understand that. It's OK. I don't mind taking background checks and stuff. Although I'm not going to hand out personal information to them.

Ppdebatesomental · 2024-07-17T19:41:08+00:00

Is it sexist to assume women aren't interested in machines or sports as much as men are while the professions of engineers, mechanics and electricians are men.

Not sexist. May be somewhat cultural, may be somewhat biological. It’s only sexist if you hold back women who are capable and interested

Is it sexist to assume men can tolerate more pain Not sexist, if the data can be replicated…we are not biologically identical.

Or that women can't handle tough decision making or men are more likely to take risks

Not sexist…and precisely why female doctors have lower patient mortality rates. They are more likely to follow established protocols which in term leads to better outcomes.

Or that women are the only gender capable of care giving as the majority of nurses, kindergarten teachers, nannies, etc are women.

ONLY? So far we have dealt in generalities. “Men are more likely “ “women are less likely “. So…yeah sexist.

I honestly think what we are seeing is sexism, but it’s also just as much a general moral panic. People’s eyes got opened during Boy Scout and church scandals and the prevalence of pedophiles shocked everyone. Followed by massive conspiracy theories. Suddenly there were pedo rings in the basement of pizza parlors that had no basement. Elites using sex with children in secret rituals…you get the idea. I remember people insisting masks in schools would enable pedos to sneak in and molest kids.

Also want to throw out there that virtually every single woman here can tell you the first time a grown man creeped her out and scared her as a prepubescent. There is a logical fallacy inherent that since we have all experienced an interaction with a creep, that all men are creeps. The truth is a few creeps really manage to get around.

So while I think it’s sexist, I don’t think it’s being sexist first and then looking for a problem second to justify casual sexism. I think we live in a time where people are completely paranoid and maybe a tad ignorant? And both the Boy Scouts and priest scandals highlighted the fact that if you actually ARE a pedo, you tend to put yourself in a position to be around kids, so men who actually want to be around kids are ironically considered more likely to be a bad guy.

Finally, I would say the stats actually DONT support the stereotype ….kinda making it extra sexist in a way, because the stats in no way reflect that men are likely to be pedos. People fail to understand the difference between more men than women are likely to be predators and when you come across a man, he’s likely to be a predator. Those are very different things.

As hard as it is, I think in some situations you need to give people some grace. As highly unlikely as it is that a random guy will turn out to be a predator on a random encounter with a child, the stakes for parents are enormous. Everyone wants to protect their kids and we aren’t as innocent and trusting as we used to be.

Blightning421 · 2024-07-17T21:07:54+00:00

Folks are finally starting to realize that the modern western woman is a misandrist

Different_Cress7369 · 2024-07-17T21:54:16+00:00

Treat all guns like they’re loaded isn’t anti gun, and treat all men like they’re potentially dangerous isn’t anti male. Being sensible isn’t being a bigot

MaterialOk6309 · 2024-07-17T22:56:14+00:00

It is sexist. Plus, women always expect men to approach and in the past, men had to evaluate every change he had. If women does not xha ge their behaviour in terms of approach and commitment and enjoy female priviledge while ezpecting attention from men, she does not have a right to criticize men because she'll be contribution the perpetuation of "norms". A woman says "i dressed pretty and attractive because of myself, not for male attention" but in relity, she'll be hoping for attention of a man she DESIRES; any other men's approach will be called as "harrassment". She goes out and minds her own businnes because it is men that has to initiate... This is the bigger picture. Portraying men as and indirectly wanting them to be suxh "disgusting (predatory)" creatures is %100 sexist.

SnooCats37 · 2024-07-18T00:14:14+00:00

This one is tricky, say you have a tray of buns and someone tells you that one of them has been poisoned, you wouldn't eat any of them without knowing which are safe. Women know not all men are predators but we don't know which ones are because it isn't like they walk around with a sign saying i am going to hurt you. For our safety we behave in a way that will preemptively keep us safe. The majority of women have been assaulted, attacked or raped at some point in their life, the majority of the time it is by someone we know. If we can't trust the men closest to us, how are we going to be able to trust strangers. It isn't fair for both women and the innocent men but life isn't fair and this world isn't, it's just the world we live in

HighestTierMaslow · 2024-07-18T02:53:23+00:00

If its sexist then so are most men. Most men assume all women are more materialistic than them.

LaPrimaVera · 2024-07-18T05:33:47+00:00

The answer to this is very context dependent.

If you're a woman and see a massive guy in a dark alley and you gtfo, well it's a risky situation and any offence caused is negated by the fact that ignoring the risk can very well end horribly.

In regards to kids you have to be extra careful since they have a lot less ability to defend themselves than the average woman and are more at risk of being manipulated into keeping quiet.

So if some random neighbour who I don't know offered to baby sit my daughter it's a hell no. If her grandad or one of her uncles offered, we know them well enough to know they won't hurt her and know these men are capable of taking care of their own kids so it's fine. Specifically a dad who worked as a teacher I would be fine with, I don't know how it works elsewhere but to be a teacher here you need to not only have a degree in education, but also have to have multiple clearances done annually to ensure there's no danger to the kids, so chances of him hurting a kid are pretty low.

Honestly though I think people forget that more women hurt children than men, so men are not the only ones to be concerned about.

As to the other situations you stated, the thing to remember is risk of harm outweighs causing offence.

2024-07-18T16:08:05+00:00

Its all sexist!

ChineseChaiTea · 2024-08-21T08:53:46+00:00

100% sexist.

If we can't label certain demographics because of a certain characteristic like race, then we can't label all men for the same reason.

I'm finding people on social media really selective of who gets to be labeled and who doesn't. As a women if I don't agree with the mob....I get told off for it.

For example women seating sections on airplanes, I said it's sad they have to exist, and there is a stigma that all men are predators.

I got told "well if a man's not a predator than why should he care" I'm like would you feel this way if it was someone's race?

pinkninja117-a · 2024-09-24T16:33:10+00:00

Just had an experience that was particularly upsetting. I went out to a bar alone to have a drink, a woman came up to me and started flirting. Her friends come to check out things, which I understand, and she invites me to another bar. When I get there to the other bar her friends start grilling me and asking questions as if the things I had told her about myself were bogus, which was mildly annoying but again, whatever.

A while later, the girl directly asks me about how big my junk is, and then tells me I can take her home. I settle my tab and we get into my car, and her friends sprint to my car. They start demanding my info, phone number and name, I say "Alright this is pretty annoying." To which they say "we don't know who you are, 95% of serial killers and rapists are white men." To which I then tell her to get out of my car.

I literally did nothing but exist and I was made out to be a predator. I did not initiate, pursue, or pressure and I was still automatically labeled as presumably an AWFUL human being.

spanglesandbambi · 2024-07-17T15:53:24+00:00

There is a wider cultural issue here where we start with gender roles early and traditional. Those are boys are rough, and girls are gentle this feeds sexism. This then feeds into men are dangerous because this issue is not just women though its men as Fathers, Uncles, Brothers and Friends saying things like don't go here or with that man.

The issue is society as a whole, but yes, anybody saying all men are predictors is sexism. The actions depend though if that person decides to not go places and it has no impact on anyone but themselves then no. The difference is their needs to be an element of impact for men to be discriminated against. For example, those parents being awkward around d the male parent is dumb. However, not discrimination if they banned him from coming because he was a man, however, would be.

2024-07-17T16:26:28+00:00

Nah it’s how you stay safe <3

Fabulous-Suspect-72 · 2024-07-17T15:47:26+00:00

It is sexist. Is that an american thing though? I've never really noticed this in my country.

63daddy · 2024-07-17T15:56:32+00:00

Focusing on one sex is of course sexist, especially given there are violent crimes such as domestic violence and infanticide that are committed more by women.

More than being sexist however, it’s employing the apex/nadir fallacy: it’s applying what a minority of men do to all men. For example, the fact more men than women commit rape, doesn’t mean men as a sex are rapists. The vast majority of men don’t commit violent crime and shouldn’t be treated as if they do. More women than men initiate domestic violence, but we don’t use this to all women are responsible for domestic violence.

Motherofvampires · 2024-07-17T19:41:02+00:00

How many fathers would be willing to send their daughters over to the house of another man they don’t know without being present themselves? I’m willing to bet it’s a thing men worry about too once they have children. Are those men sexist?

BKLD12 · 2024-07-17T20:15:03+00:00

I think a distinction needs to be made between assuming that all men are predators and being cautious around strangers. When I was very young, my parents wouldn't let us stay over at anyone's house if they didn't know the parents (and I do mean parents, plural). Other parents wouldn't let their kids stay over at our place if they didn't know my mom and dad. Fair enough.

It's less of an assumption that all strangers will hurt you or your loved ones (especially children who are more at risk) and knowing that you're not psychic and can't tell who will and who won't.

Assuming it's just men is foolish and sexist. Yes, statistics do say it's usually men (whether that's socialization or biological is up for debate, but I tend to lean more towards the former...testosterone may increase aggression in animals like ourselves, but as humans we aren't ruled by our hormones and anyone who says differently is just making excuses to be an asshole), but part of that is other sexist assumptions that lead to predatory women not getting caught and/or charged for their crimes. Look at any article where a female teacher is caught for inappropriate conduct with a male student, and you'll see comment after comment saying how "lucky" the student was or whatever, where a man with a female student would be universally condemned. Statistics are rarely cut and dry, and there are a lot of social issues we need to address for men and women alike.

I also will fully admit that sexism does exist regarding men who are in caregiving roles, don't get me wrong. I have a degree in education. My professors and volunteer coordinator for an early childhood intervention program talked to the guys about avoiding accusations, and I found that very sad. I know that some people still refer to fathers who actually parent their kids as "babysitting." I don't know how we make this better, but I do sympathize. Perhaps as more men enter childcare, teaching, nursing, and other "pink collar" jobs, we'll become more accepting of men as caregivers.

_CuntfinderGeneral · 2024-07-18T00:27:03+00:00

is assuming all women are hysterical sexist or no i can't figure it out

2024-07-17T16:23:30+00:00

Sexism doesn't count if it cuts towards men. Shut up and work harder.

bifewova234 · 2024-07-17T15:34:45+00:00

People are allowed to be sexist. They're also allowed to be classist, racist, and lots of other "ists". When people say they're not any of those things, then they're not being honest with you. They'll just pretend they're not to avoid shame or looking bad. It is prejudice based on simple heuristic reasoning. Profiling people is certainly not the most accurate form of reasoning, but it does go faster than taking the time and effort to investigate each person. People want to be treated fairly and as individuals, but it costs time to do that. Who should pay the time cost? The person being judged or the person doing the judging?

TimeConstraints · 2024-07-17T15:48:20+00:00

All the feminist bullshit about "equality" goes out the window when a mother is looking out for her children.

The question is not whether all men are predators. The fact is that a man is more likely to be a predator than a woman, and mothers instinctively know that.

Feminist theories on sexual equality are counterfactual intellectual constructs advanced for political power. Parenthood is real.

Glass-Violinist-8352 · 2024-07-17T16:21:20+00:00

Ofc it is

Flash_4_Crab · 2024-07-17T17:54:55+00:00

The stats don't even support this. Stats show women are more likely to abuse children.

People will tell you this is because women are around children more often.

To me that's a terrible argument because me being around children doesn't make me feel like i wanna abuse them.

DeJuanBallard · 2024-07-17T18:16:06+00:00

This isn't a question if you are aware of the definition of sexism. Just get over it. Most of them were lost anyway.

Critical_Corner_1859 · 2024-07-17T18:17:02+00:00

I personally think my children's safety should come before any man's feelings.

That being said, I'd still allow my child to go. I'd teach them how to say a stern no and to run to me if anyone touches them inappropriately + teach them self defense mechanisms.

Am I a misandrist for doing so? I'd be a bit more trusting with women, but still wouldn't let my guard down.

NewOCLibraryReddit · 2024-07-17T19:18:47+00:00

The bottom line is that a child, especially female, should NOT be alone with any man WITHOUT their mother/father present. This means a mother should NOT allow their child daughter around ANY man (step dad, boyfriend, etc) alone.

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2024-07-18T00:24:56+00:00

who cares if its "Sexist" im not a feminist or a leftist and don't use their stupid nonsense words to concepts

Cethlinnstooth · 2024-07-18T03:12:55+00:00

"SAHD during summer vacations"

I'm not surprised. It's really hard to get a play date dynamic... most mothers have maybe half a dozen unrelated kids whose house they let their kids go to and some of those will be kids they met because they went to antenatal classes with the mothers...some because they work or went to school with the mothers...and some that they've courted pretty damn heavy to make sure their kid has access.

Parents mostly don't get to control who their kids go to school with but they do get to control who has play dates and if they are middle class or higher with resources and options and a well behaved kid they gatekeep that stuff hard.

It isn't just safety issues. It's also because they want to use the play date dynamic as an opportunity to influence who their kid grows up to be.They want their kids to play with well mannered kids with the same moral code being taught to them as they teach their kids. They want their kids to play with kids who grow up to be someones not nobodies.

If he's chosen all the best kids and parents to invite...and very likely if he's a teacher he would because teachers tend to be experts at deciding some kids and some families are better than others, they've probably already got as many play date contacts as they feel they need. Someone else chose ten years ago they needed their kid to be exactly where he wants his kid to be right now. He never stood a chance.

It's also common to treat play dates as a way to make a curated collection of friends for your child who are very much not associated with the school. It is a way of creating a scene they are part of that is not meshed with school. So if things go bad at school and they end up bullied or having to change schools they've still got long term friends. Him being a teacher at school is not the slam dunk he maybe thinks it is.

If you're only doing the full-time parenting thing in the summer holidays and suddenly want play dates, it isn't going to be easy. I don't know to what extent he's being discriminated against because of gender...I do however suspect that the entire situation is one he's instinctively seeing as needing caution and discrimination from his perspective but failing to transfer the judgemental things he thinks about others and the calculated judgements he is no doubt making to what others probably think about him and how planned and calculated they are being and most importantly...always have been.

Basically I think his gender isn't helping but he'd probably still be failing at getting play dates if he was a woman in this exact situation. He's a newbie at this. A babe in the woods. Like someone who thinks they are good at tech but really isn't.

Of course that comes back to discrimination too..it's unlikely he received the same socialisation to this that any sister he might have had would have.

W-Pilled · 2024-07-17T16:13:53+00:00

Feminists and their double standards as usual

Title	Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?
Author	thedarkracer
Upvotes	71
Comments	284
Date	July 17, 2024 3:32 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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