What do some men mean when they say 'woman have life on easy mode?'

AdhesivenessEven7287 · 2026-01-04T20:36:40+00:00

Heard a guy say this. Not sure how common a belief it is. But is it a commonly held belief. Or is it just how we respond to those who are beautiful and...

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It’s a reference to the idea that there are tactics and exploits available to women at large that do not exist for men at large.

And that the comparable advantages men are deemed to have, exist only for a minority of men, not men at large, thus meaning that if you look at broad domains, not specifics, women have more options available to them to achieve a given goal than men do.

For example, in dating. The biggest thing holding a woman back from getting laid is her own standards. (Not a criticism). But a woman could theoretically choose to lower that standard, and sleep with someone every day if they chose simply by approaching men and bluntly asking.

Very very few men, if any, could do the same.

Then there’s monetisation, almost no men can have others pay them money, based solely on how they look. The exceptions are male models etc, a tiny minority of men.

Whereas, the growth of modelling, onlyfans and porn etc, shows the market is far greater for women, albeit not available to every woman, but a larger percentage than you’d imagine.

And then there’s ideas such as women being good at sales if they’re willing to be flirty etc, which men can’t as easily pull off etc.

It’s a very domain specific argument

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I won't say that men committing suicide is a win for women in general.

Most women aren't like that. There is a small minority of hateful women who do hate men, but it's not all women who hate men.

Ironically enough while sex selective abortion is seen as a bad thing, it's only seen as a bad thing if it's girls being selectively aborted, most have no issues with boys being selectively aborted.

Women have a huge in-group bias and are often biased against men, which is ironic because they accuse men of being biased for men and against women, when factually most men are actually slightly biased in favour of women and against men.

I find it ironic that a lot of things women complain about in men, are often things that women themselves do, and then they assume that men would do the same kinds of things women do and blame men it, when most men wouldn't do those things. Women complain about men's locker room talk, while women's locker room talk is incredibly more explicit and invasive of men's privacy than men's locker room talk would ever be.

Gotta love that irony.

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I mean I'm sure that kind of stuff happens somewhere in some locker room, but yeah, the vast majority of locker rooms I've been in had none of that, and the majority of men I've talked with say the same.

In contrast there seem to be a lot of men catching women talking about incredibly specific, detailed, and invasive stuff about their current and past partners, and sharing that gossip around. Not all women of course but it seems to be significantly more common and significantly worse among women than men, and yet women complain men do it all the time. Classic projection, they do it, they think that men therefore would do it, but they're men so they must do all that and worse.

The female in-group bias and having the sisterhood close ranks against men also makes it more difficult to actually recognize what's really going on, despite the fact that ironically enough many women seem happily willing to throw other women under the bus when the discussion is between women. The moment it's men vs women though, nope, all women are angels and none of them would ever do anything like that, and men are pigs and the disgusting ones.

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Feminism wouldn't collapse over the experience of one person, but studying that person's experiences, how it is similar across the many many many women Norah crossed paths with, and how it completely corroborates everything men have been saying for decades and that feminism has been ignoring and downplaying for decades, would.

That's an naive thing to say and seems more about your wishes than reality.

Well no see I know it won't make feminism "truly" collapse because feminism is basically a religious ideology puffed up on its own dogmatism at this point, and if scientology and Mormonism still exist despite their demonstrably false beliefs, there's no reason to think feminism would be any more rational when it is predicated and based on an irrational perspective of global female oppression in the first place.

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norah vincent experienced "how men relate and are treated" AS a natal woman who was raised as a woman and socialized as a woman and is biologically a woman. she experience SOME aspect of the male experience, but she did NOT experience it AS A MAN.

And therefore she could see the difference between how women are treated and how men are treated, and saw that men are treated SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE than women are, and that most women have absolutely no idea at all how badly men are treated.

She didn't get the full experience, but she had it damn close, and she outright says women have no fucking clue what it's like living as a man, and how much harder it was.

I'm not making anything up.

I'm pointing out how a woman got 70-90% of the male lived experience, saw that it was positively awful compared to her lived experience as a woman, and concluded that women don't have a solitary fucking clue how hard it is to be a man.

So now men point to Norah Vincent when she said women don't have a clue how hard men have it, to tell other women they don't have a clue how hard men have it.

Do you recognize that men's lived experience is significantly different and significantly worse than women's lived experiences, or are you saying you don't think that men's lived experiences is worse than women's lived experience?

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By older I mean 35+. The age where you are no longer hot but not a grandma. Now that they’re no longer hot, every request is seen as nagging and neurotic. Ex No one would listen to my mother when she said she felt my sickness was worse than a flu as a kid. Well turns out that it was some rare disease that I coumd have died off had she not insisted. And yet when my dad voices a concern, people first investigate then dismiss or validate his concerns based on what’s actually happening. Women become just as invidible as men when they are no longer hot.Except, women are not seen as competent either, so your only value is gone and most men just try to avoid you. Men are so willing to help me carrying suitcases when im a lone in public transportation. But they are less likely to do it for a 35+ woman. Yet, chances are they need it more.

Mothers are seen as nuisances who should just stay home instead of imposing their kids to people. Both men and women act visibly annoyed when they enter a room with their kids.

Women are priviledged betweeen age 15 to 30 if they are hot enough. That’s a very small timeframe in one's life. Most of your adult life you will be middle aged or old. And you no longer have those perks.

And hot young black women don’t even get the same perks as their white counterpart since they are perceived way differently.

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Now that they’re no longer hot, every request is seen as nagging and neurotic.

Right, just like every demand men make of women is seen as entitlement and patriarchal. So women 35+ get the same treatment as men, and their demands aren't immediately accepted and fulfilled with no pushback. Welcome to equality.

Ex No one would listen to my mother when she said she felt my sickness was worse than a flu as a kid. Well turns out that it was some rare disease that I coumd have died off had she not insisted.

I am sorry to hear but I am happy your mother caught that. It is very fortunate she was able to catch that rare and unlikely disease.

This is a false negative type error, of people thinking there isn't a problem when there really is one.

How often does your mother do a false positive type error, where she thinks there is a problem when there really is none?

And yet when my dad voices a concern, people first investigate then dismiss or validate his concerns based on what’s actually happening.

I guarantee you your father has had some of his concerns dismissed as well.

Women become just as invidible as men when they are no longer hot.

Right, therefore equality. The loss of privilege is not oppression.

Except, women are not seen as competent either, so your only value is gone and most men just try to avoid you

And most men either have to prove they are competent or prove they are not incompetent. Women face different struggles as men, but that doesn't mean men don't face struggles either. Most women don't seem to see the value in men, there's literally a thread asking why women are surprised to hear men believe women don't want them after women and feminism has spent the last few decades telling men they are neither wanted nor valued, and how most women avoid men.

So again, equality.

Men are so willing to help me carrying suitcases when im a lone in public transportation. But they are less likely to do it for a 35+ woman. Yet, chances are they need it more.

And no woman is willing to help men carry their suitcases.

The loss of privilege is not oppression, it is the loss of privilege. Welcome to equality.

Women have spent the last few decades saying they're just as strong, competent, and capable as men, so then men started treating women as equals and stopped helping women, as per women's requests.

And now you seem to be upset that men are treating women the exact same way the average man is treated.

Welcome to equality, if you don't like the loss of your female privilege, it's not men's fault.

Mothers are seen as nuisances who should just stay home instead of imposing their kids to people. Both men and women act visibly annoyed when they enter a room with their kids.

No it's more that kids can be a nuisance if they are being excessively loud or out of control. A crying baby is often no the mother's fault unfortunately, but it not being her fault doesn't mean it isn't unpleasant for everyone around.

Fathers with loud or out of control kids get the same annoyed reaction.

Women are priviledged betweeen age 15 to 30 if they are hot enough.

And that "hot enough" is "average or better", or even just if women are seen to be struggling, unless they are very ugly.

You're literally complaining about the loss of female privileges that men never had, while society is demanding men be stripped of any and all privileges.

You're basically complaining women can't go to Michelin star restaurants anymore, while men have been told they're not entitled to anything better than a buffet.

Can you see how the loss of unearned female privileges isn't going to garner much sympathy?

Because equality means losing those privileges. You can have the privileges, or you can have equality, you can't have both.

And hot young black women don’t even get the same perks as their white counterpart since they are perceived way differently.

But they still get more perks as young black men, and likely better perks because unlike young black men they're not considered potentially violent criminals by default.

Sorry girl, you're going to have to check your privileges just like us men have been told to do. Welcome to equality.

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Men are seen as rational people and onmy get dismissed for sexual stuff.

They also get dismissed for being assaulted, murdered, harassed, and their feelings, needs, and emotions get constantly dismissed and invalidated.

Not saying women don't face issues, but the vast majority of women have absolutely no idea how much shit men go through, while we've done a good job as a society of educating people about women's issues.

My mother, like most mothers was very rarely wrong on this. Wise doctors know to listen to them as they know their kids patterns very well. They even teach it in medschool now.

And that is fantastic for sure, but my mother was also wrong on many occasions, assuming and preparing for the worst when things weren't nearly as bad.

Mothers are just as fallible as fathers, being of either gender doesn't make one infallible, generally just makes us fallible in different ways.

So we agree. Those privileges are only the privileges of a select few women. Not the average woman. The average woman is 35+ and slightly overweight.

And the average 35+ woman still enjoys more social privileges than the average man.

I'm not complaining about losing privilege. I'm pointing out you are focusing on a minority of women.

I don't think that average women aged 20-80 are a minority.

Nope, that hot enough means being above average.

By women's standard, "hot enough" means a man is an 8/10 or up. By men's standard, "hot enough" means a woman is a 5/10 or up. Given we're talking men's standards about women, not women's standards about men, it's 5/10 and up.

Black women are seen as violent and less womanly than white women and less competent than white men so they get in fact the worst of both worlds. And black men treat them horribly but tthat’s another topic.

So by your own admission even if black women get the worst of both world, they still have it better than black men.

Aka black women are still more privileged than black men.

You're kinda proving my point for me here.

Remember as well that black women are less likely to be harmed by the police than white men, and black women committing a crime will get a lesser jail sentence than a white man committing the exact same crime.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002

That's what female privilege looks like, it's a privilege women have over men of equivalent socioeconomic status.

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And yet feminists/radical feminists say that they are oppressed by using fake lies like the wage gap or the domestic violence gap (there is no wage gap and male victims of domestic violence aren't taken seriously and they are way less likely to report it) Or they say "well women in Islamic/third world countries are treated badly!" Yet they do nothing to help or stop them.

Honestly they do this so men can never break out of their traditional gender role like women have, because when men are accepted for who they are and they aren't expected to provide anymore, women lose the benefits of having providers and protectors they can use to better their lives, they have to sign up for the draft and they have to be treated the same way as men when it comes to prison sentencing,

basically they will lose a ton of privileges when men aren't traditional either.

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And yet feminists/radical feminists say that they are oppressed by using fake lies like the wage gap or the domestic violence gap (there is no wage gap and male victims of domestic violence aren't taken seriously and they are way less likely to report it)

Just to be clear for future reference, saying men aren’t taken seriously and less likely to report it doesn’t do anything to refute the argument men abuse more.

If the claimed rates are 5:1 male perpetrator to female perpetrator, and men under-report by 50%, that still doesn’t close the gap to 1:1.

The stronger argument is to compare male vs female, and female vs female reporting per capita, because those numbers are very close depending on the survey and metrics used.

Or they say "well women in Islamic/third world countries are treated badly!" Yet they do nothing to help or stop them.

I think they’d make an appeal to capability here, eg what as I supposed to do? Like literally tell me something practical that can be done as an individual to affect the behaviour of people in a foreign nation.

Honestly they do this so men can never break out of their traditional gender role like women have, because when men are accepted for who they are and they aren't expected to provide anymore, women lose the benefits of having providers and protectors they can use to better their lives, they have to sign up for the draft and they have to be treated the same way as men when it comes to prison sentencing,

I think that’s certainly the motivation for many people, I’m hesitant to make claims that could be seen as monolithic, but I agree it’s definitely a motivation at play.

basically they will lose a ton of privileges when men aren't traditional either.

Agreed, though I’m curious as to your use of the word “when” implying it will happen. Do you think that’s ever going to happen? That it’s purely a social construct and biology and evolutionary psychology plays no role?

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Those are displays of emotion, not felt emotion…

You’re conflating issues.

The fact I was raised never to try or show weakness etc, which is true, doesn’t mean I don’t feel them. That said, I can compare how often I feel them, to how often my foster sister displayed them, and she displayed it more than I ever felt it.

And that would make sense given the world is literally more potentially dangerous to her than to me.

For example, of just the two of us, only one had the ability to physically overpower and kill the other without weaponry…

That’s a subconscious fear one of us would feel that the other wouldn’t.

Tied into our dopamine, serotonin and cortisol systems, which help regulate our levels of anxiety.

If you’re small and skinny and bad at fighting, the world is more dangerous to you, and thus you should feel more anxiety, because that’s the first step towards activating adrenaline and your fight or flight response. That’s evolution. We see it in animals.

Likewise, if you’re large and more capable of fighting, the world is less dangerous and so your body doesn’t need to raise anxiety levels to be ready to activate your fight or flight response, because that’s costly and deemed unnecessary is more situations than the other person.

That’s not even human specific- we see that same system function the same way in animals. Bigger dogs display less anxiety than smaller dogs assuming ceteris parabus. Etc

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So to focus just on the pay gap, simply because it’s the only one of the three I’ve ever looked into with any detail, there are some sources available off the top of my head.

https://iea.org.uk/media/gender-pay-gap-briefing/

https://iea.org.uk/media/equal-pay-day-calculation-is-fundamentally-misleading/

https://www.adamsmith.org/press-releases/press-release-the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-myth

The main analysis tends to be a critique of methodology used in creating it.

Doing a mean or median average of total income and then comparing by gender doesn’t prove any systemic issue.

For example, that wouldn’t account for the job role itself, hours worked, holiday taken, experience, performance, the industry, geographical region etc

You can’t make claims at scale because too many variables become potentially causational, and then you aren’t isolating for the variable being measured (gender) as the scientific method requires.

As uncontested examples.

Mothers often take more time out the workplace than fathers. I’m not saying that’s good or bad, only that it’s descriptively true.

Let’s say it’s a month on average to use a random number

That means 2 employees, one male, one female, with identical everything - experience, skill, qualifications etc, would end up being unequal post child, as one has had an extra month in the workplace vs the other, to build rapport, achieve big wins, be seen by the boss etc which could all affect the ability to get promoted and thus get a future pay rise.

That’s not her being paid less because she’s a woman, it’s being paid less because that month off could have a compounding effect.

For example, in sales, a month off is huge when you have monthly and quarterly targets etc…

That’s one example. Another would be say professional sports which drags up the upper limit of the median for men

And say charity work or kindergarten education which would drag down the median for women.

And while I grant there is some social aspect in relation to this, to claim it’s purely socialised and has nothing to do with biology seems logically absurd to me.

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It may be a bad deal, but the question is if its choice or not.

People are allowed to say that being a parent is more important than income.

And if they make that choice, good for them.

Now there’s questions to be asked about why men don’t have the same option (I think the physical toll of childbirth warrants more time off personally, but maybe I’m just sexist) and whether men would on average make the same choice at the same rate women do.

And there’s a conversation to be had regarding whether that’s socially conditioned, or due to breastfeeding, or psychological differences that are evolutionarily linked etc but let’s put all that to one side, it’s absolutely a huge factor.

Now, when you say the controlled gap is 93 cents, what variables did they control for?

Can’t help you said “some” implying not all of them. So couldn’t 7% be explained by the factors that were left out, personal choice and random variance etc.

For example, if the gender pay gap was actually 100% identical. Not even a 0.0000000001% disparity, that’s actually suspicious, because it would mean no random variance- eg an Elon Musk or Lebron James etc that would create small disparity in the data sets.

Especially when you factor in that Lebron James has an income/salary

Whereas say a female equivalent in terms of wealth like Taylor Swift has no income or salary, her pay is based on royalties and tour gates, merchandising etc so wouldn’t necessarily be counted the same way in the data unless she’s incredibly financially irresponsible and claims it as income instead of running it through a company etc.

And I can think of at least 5 other controls that I haven’t yet heard any analysis factor in that I’m aware of. Not least because they’re not the kinds of things you can actually control for- that’s what makes this entire field so tricky, it’s not a real science because you can’t isolate variables like the hard sciences can, making it more difficult to ever prove or disprove any given hypothesis

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When we examine the facts here, when two people decide to have a child the women will spend more time, on average raising that child, than the male. She will also spent more time doing household chores than the male.

Agreed

When two people are of child bearing age, the women in the workforce will take more of a hit than then women regardless of her intent to have children.

Agreed.

Men are much more likely to abandon heir children than women are. And the largest threat to pregnant women is their domestic partner.

Not true. And that’s not true unless you’re using weird definitions of “largest threat” you think more pregnant women are killed by domestic partners than car accidents, labour, and every other form of threat etc? That’s just factually not what the data shows.

While two people decide to have a child, there are still lots of needless negative consequences that fall upon women.

You assumed two people decided. Last I checked, men don’t have a say- be that to abort or keep, it’s at the discretion of the woman.

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The percentage of females murdered by an intimate partner was 5 times higher than for males.

And the percentage of men being murdered is 5x higher than women being murdered, and that the rate of women murdering men dropped significantly when shelters for abused women opened up, to allow women a place to escape to rather than murder their partner.

Maybe if we opened more shelters for men being abused by women, we'd see less women being murdered by their intimate partner.

Provide some sources about the pay gap being fake, this source says U.S. women earn 83 cents for every dollar men earn on average in 2025 in a report that compares the median salaries of all men and women.

And if you compare the salary of a woman who has the same job title and experience as a man performing the same job, that gender pay gap drops to less than 3%, and lower still when you take education and training into account.

The gender pay gap is an gender earnings gap, because women tend to work less overtime, work more part-time jobs than men, take longer maternal leave than men, and aim for jobs that pay less than men.

Women literally choose lesser-paying jobs than men and choose to work less and less hard than men, why would it be surprising that they are paid less than men as a consequence?

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Slander: the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation

I'm reacting to the wilful misrepresentation the same way people would react to the comment that women cause the most false rape accusations.

It's slander because it misrepresents the problem as though it's a problem for a significant or large part of men or women, when in reality it's a significant problem with a tiny minority of men or women.

It's not the facts that bother me, it's the deliberate misrepresentation. As someone who actually cares about debate, words have meaning, and it is important to properly define what we say to accurately convey what we mean.

Seriously though, what's got you so eager to throw your own entire gender under the bus like that? Is this some kind of internalized misogyny?

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I think it would be more akin to, “the more beautiful the woman, the easier the mode she can opt to be in, generally speaking”

However, it doesn’t take much time online to find a “content creator” who we would probably agree is below average in terms of looks but still makes a living doing this, partly because male desperation doesn’t have a lower limit as far as I can tell, preference varies from person to person, and if you’re willing to do novel/ weird/ wild/ kinky enough acts, you’ll find your audience, and be in a low competition environment.

As in, there’s probably a large enough percentage of people willing to pay to see “insert some weird and gross to the average person here” sex act that you could sustain a living on it.

And to be the top 10% of earners, you’re not competing against all creators, only the creators in that field.

And if it’s a small sample size, it’s much easier to be in the top % of it.

Just like it’s easier to be the best player playing an obscure sport than a popular one.

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In my country, there are several laws that make women lives' easier.

Women are exempt from military draft.
Retirement age is 60 for women, 65 for men. If a woman decides to work past retirement age, she will not pay income tax.
If a woman goes to prison, she will go to a lighter prison by default. A man has to act with good behaviour to request such transfer. In addition, imprisoned men are allowed only one hot shower a week, while women are guaranteed two hot showers and daily hot water allowance.
Labour laws allow women in manual jobs to lift at most 12 kg for permanent tasks and 20 kg for occasional lifting, while men are allowed to lift 30 kg / 50 kg respectively.
Labour laws oblige the employer to provide hot meals for the workers. While men need to burn 2000 kcal, women need to burn only 1100 kcal to be entitled to a meal.
Women cannot legally work in jobs where there is noise louder than 80 dB. There is no such protection for men.
Pregnant women cannot be fired. Men whose partners or wives are pregnant have no such protection.

And several other, more nuanced issues. Mind you, these are universal, hard laws, in certain cases even the constitution.

In addition, there are things like occasional bonus points in school/program admissions for girls - despite them overperforming boys in almost every single education metric.

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In-country feminists respond mostly with gaslighting and deflection, typically with unprovable and/or unmeasureable claims. Sometimes plain negation.

For example, they point out that in addition to 100% of men, a minimal amount of women has to register for draft as well (nurses, psychologists) and thus it makes the whole point invalid. Or say that the compulsory military service has been temporarily suspended (note - not cancelled, only suspended). Or start explaining how draft will never be necessary... but we live in a country neighbouring Russia, we are hated by them and threatened all the time, from full-scale war to destroying our capital with nukes, and heavily engaged in hybrid warfare (train sabotage, arsons, cyber attacks, migrant pressure, cutting undersea cables, GPS jamming and many others). After Russia attacked Ukraine in 2022, draft became a real possibility for us.

Or they say how retiring early means the pension is a bit lower, so that shouldn't really be considered a benefit. When faced with reality that every country in Europe has either equal retirement ages, or is on track to equalise them soon, and we are the exception (in addition to such wonderful company as Russia and Belarus...), they become unable to respond with an argument.

They say that women are weaker than men, so lower lifting limits are fine, but become deaf when explained how some women are stronger than some men and lifting standards should become gender-neutral and physique-based instead.

They will also frequently try to counter laws with cultural arguments or statements impossible to prove or measure. Like, women have to retire earlier because they do more housework than men - they effectively equalise a legal act with a individual agreement on division of household labour between two adult, consenting people. Or women have to retire earlier, because they do more caretaking labour - but they still oppose to introduce a gender-neutral caretaker status that could possibly lower one's retirement age.

Sometimes they mix negation with misandry and hate. Gender division in medical universities and schools is ~75% women vs ~25% men, but feminists plain refuse programs that will promote healthcare studies for men... while later bickering how doctors don't treat women' issues seriously.

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Not really, my country is amongst those with the lowest fertility levels in the world (1.10 for 2024, 1.03 estimated for 2025) - lower than Japan and barely better than war-ravaged Ukraine.

There are so few babies popping out, that the grandmas have barely any grandkids to look after (if we agree that this stereotype is mostly true). And even if they do, the grandkids live in another part of the country, as we undergo a massive internal migration of working age people to few biggest cities, in particular the capital. The provinces are under rapid depopulation.

Not disregarding all that, men are obliged by law to defend the country and refusal will lead to prosecution and possibly critical consequences.

On the other hand, women are not obliged or forced to bear babies and I hope they will never be.

So the things you are trying to compare are not comparable.

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Huh? Everything you just said is completley pulled out of thin air. You're making big sweeping generalizations based on nothing.

And the women who suffer most are ones who are sedentary and lazy.

No, they are not. Pain and bad side effects of periods is in no way linked to lazyness. You have no evidence for this. Again if thats the case, I must be a convenient outlier.

If you think the women in African tribes who have fetch water 10 miles across, suffer all this menstrual pain you are wrong.

Again, do you have evidence for this? Have you been to all the tribes in Africa and asked these women how their periods are like? Or is it because you don't see them complaining about it on social media as clear proof that they dont suffer? I get the impresion that tribes that have to carry water for 10 miles everyday dont have a lot of internet connection, or time to spend on the internet if they have it.

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I would recommend actually reading my comment, I said 5x a WEEK not per day.

Nope, I'm pretty fit. I'll give you a small tip: you can do split programs and different form of excercises. You dont have yo train the same muscles every day nor do you have to train them as hard. This is pretty basic fitness knowledge, I'm afraid. Most people who are deidicated to the gym works out around 5 times per week.

Walking 10K steps everyday is also the most basic form of movement that is recommended. If thats going to "beat you body" then you're probably pretty weak. My body works great, I have high energy and I focus easily on multiple tasks. So if I have " beat my body" it sure works pretty good. My nutrition is pretty good as well, thank you.

You're making up fanfics of me. You seem to lack basic fitness knowledge if you think working out 5 times a week is too much.

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Everything these guys do is earned. They don't have significant help from family, orbiters, lovers and others to help them. They are mostly alone. And earn everything despite full hardships.

Ugly women face hardships but not on the same level, lets just says that if a skilled guy needs to apply to 100 companies to get a job, a hog needs what? 80? maybe 70? Sure no way near the 0-20 of pretty women gets but if we talking the average guy who has to apply to hundreds, maybe thousands to get the same result, it is not really comparable.

Women are being seen as what they are, stereotypes exist for a reason. Some can grow past them. But this is an exception, not the rule. that is why they continue. Women are not really competent in much in life and rely a lot on their sexual value. But thats alright, we must keep capitalism going amirite?

I don't doubt that periods and birthing sucks. But come on. It is still life on easy mode. It just is not entirely sunshine and rainbows. Much of what women say sound like an entitled nobleman going: "Oh it is so hard to be a noble, I need to rule and make decisions, I need to go to war and risk my life inside the best fullplate money can buy" to a crowd of staving and overworked peasants. Like, yeah, its not perfect, but it's still a live in easy mode. Having SOME hardships doesn't change that.

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I mean everything you just said is based on pure feelings and thoughts. Thinking that no women or barely any women actually work for what they have achieved is pure delusion and isnt based on anything but words from other men.

Women have to complete the same exams the same training, the same job applications. There is nothing that says that women just gets achiecements with no effort. There are countless women who have worked themselves out of financial problems, have worked as single mothers, etc. Being in a poor financial situation is not a male-only issue. There are countless men who have gotten scholarships, jobs, etc. because they have rich parents. I have met countless useless and incompetent men. Some of them has been fired for inapropriate behavior, some have countless complaints because they dont know what they are doing, and some are just straight up useless. Does that mean I think all men are incompetent? Obviously no. I got to where I am because I put the work in. I have failed and failed over again, gotten consequences for my actions if I acted wrong, and each time I have had to improve and work on myself as it should be.

It seems that you have your own personal experiences and is very clearly biased as you clearly dont like women very much. I and almost every woman I know will continue to work as hard as we can and so will we do forever. Ps. If all women are not competent in anything, I would recommed staying in really good shape, because women have always and will continue to dominate health care.

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You dont need to believe it. Just look. I refuse to not believe my own experiences because some capitalist somewhere wants women to cheappen the jobs market.

Despite women not getting the same training, exams or applications. They even fail at the easy tasks they are given. When guys despite having to deal with adversities still outperform women in basically everything. Why even bother with women except as puppets to cheaper wages, gain political power and sexually deal with at this point? I am confused.

Men can have other privileges. Rich parents are one. But unless they can turn him into a trust fund abby. The richest parents cant really give the ease of life to a man that a woman recrives for being a woman. Even men of privileged backgrounds need to prove themselves. Women neever need to.

Women are fine as dead weight when put in enough numbers, low wages or without any meaningful power but put a woman anywhere else and see it fail. HR got its reputation because of women, then Psychology, and now healthcare, including doctors. Women were the cause for the destruction of their reputation. Not the other way around.

Now go to any top of the line healthcare facility. Look how male workers are overrepresented there despite being minority. Your example just proves my point. Anywhere where women go. Shitty results folllow. It is not seeying the trees nor the forest at this point. If you dont want to believe me? Okay I could be just some crazy man on the internet but I welcome you to go to your job and look who is doing what at 3pm. Better yet, consider why are obese women (half of the female population) so underrepresented in workplaces round America? Dont take my word for it. Look with your own eyes.

You and other women can put your "hard work" we don't care what you call them or that you guys live on easy mode. It makes our jobs of sleeping with women in casual hookups easier. But just consider that the people who gain the most from yall thinking you are "boss babes" instead of "the babe of the boss" and it surely is not you, your coworkers or most people really. Just those at the top. A husband may ignore you once you no longer hot but companies are almost assured to care even less. But thats a conversation many women are not willing to take.

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Women are valued on a depreciating asset (youth, sexuality) and must manage it wisely to get the "best deal". With that said, there will almost always be a buyer of their asset and thus the floor to fall is significantly lower for women. Because there's never a real risk of total failure many women don't bother to try very hard because something such as "marry the ok guy and be the SAHM is still an option".

Men are not valued in the slightest until they've proven that they can provide something. Society doesn't care unless a man contributes his wealth, health or mind and women are looking for someone to provide them with something. As a result men can fall much much further and nobody will care, but because they're never under the delusion that there will always be a buyer they grow up knowing that they must perform or be left behind.

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To counter the usual "all men on dating apps are sleazy assholes seeking sex only" drivel that is bound to be spouted by PPD women in such threads:

It's deleted now, but a guy here did a Catfish experiment and basically proved that women do receive a plenty amount of respectul messages from decent-seeming men. The catch is that those men are not top tier in attractivness.

This thread blasted PPD women and blue pillers out of the water. It should be a mandatory read instead of being suppressed by biased mods.

https://archive.is/v0Rf1

During this ordeal, this slog, I did get one (1) "wyd" message but got nothing inappropriate, nothing sexual. Every man was very respectful and considerate of any boundaries I put up. If there were identical female versions of these dudes I'd go out with every one of them except the single dad. I've got a lot more messages going on but as a straight man there's something weird and unusual about flirting with other straight men so I gotta say I'm relieved this is over.

This whole "all men are horny bastards who only want to fuck" thing is a lie and very much caused by women focusing on a small cadre of (attractive) men and literally handwaving away the respectul but more homely ones.

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I’d argue women have it easier when it comes to dating in general. Also for finding a meaningful relationship. That doesn’t mean it’s straight up easy for women, but women just get much more attention in that regard. So they just have more opportunities and have to do less for the opportunities. This is of course not only a good thing. This attention can be and often is unwanted. But it makes dating in general easier.

I think it’s important to acknowledge this, since it has quite a few implications. I often notice that feminists struggle to address this adequately. And i kinda understand, cause some people only wanna use that as a gotcha to make their point how easy women's life’s are. And this is of course stupid. Many men can’t comprehend what women have to deal with. The fact that women have it easier in dating doesn’t make up for the fact that women have to be much more careful and protective of their physical well being. And there are many more examples for women being at a disadvantage societally. There are also examples where men are at a disadvantage. It is a real problem that we can’t say straight like it is that women have it easier in dating (as an example), because we made such a competition of who is more disadvantaged that there are incentives to not acknowledge when one is at an advantage themself.

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Do you have kids?

Have you raised one through the toddler stage?

I have. Being a short order cook for a picky eater you are obligated to feed nutritional food to for their health is absolutely work. Macaroni and cheese is what lazy uninvolved fathers default to, not what involved parents provide consistently.

Yes, changing a diaper is work, and it's not just one diaper it's multiple a day. Sometimes it's so bad the kid needs a whole bath. Did a mention the doing of laundry? Where do you think the bulk of that laundry comes from? (Hint: it's kids)

Parenting is work. It is constant. It is draining.

You are describing the "care" of a checked-out and lazy individual, not your average involved parent. I will agree that men do much of this kind of "care", but it's a problem and an insult, not a badge of honor.

Thank you for making it clear you will devalue the work your partner does so that you only need to accept one particular form of payment rather than acknowledging that you're sharing a load and that your "compensation" is their labor not access to the body of a woman who is covering your slack.

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Look, as an olive branch I'll admit I was being a bit inflammatory, I understand that parenting is work and sucks. Sincerely.

I was raised by a single mother and if I didn't want eat, tough shit. You're eating it. Or you'll eat it next meal. when you're broke, being "picky" isn't tolerated. Laundry cost money. Learned to wash dishes. Bleach for the toilets and sinks. I genuinely understand.

That said the "Mac N' Cheese and iPad" style of parenting comes from personal experience, and it's not the father doing it.

I know "eat hot chip and lie" is a meme but there is truth to it.

The point I was trying to make was that there is a bullshit idea that men aren't entitled to any benefits of the social contract. We bust our asses for you (women) and nothing is owed in return. It's bullshit. I personally believe it's our rotten capitalist system and general alienation between each other, and huge alienation between the sexes is to blame. But this fucking song and dance about, how we (men) deserve nothing, and you should get everything and sorry sucks to suck, you deserve it anyway is s not sustainable. It's not good for the current generation, and it's certainly not going to be good for the next.

Men beating off to Andrew Tate with AI waifus, next door to spinster cat ladies. Everyone doing UberEats gig jobs and donating plasma for next weeks VR subscription. It's fucking bleak. Men are more than happy to point out issues among ourselves. Women will not do the same, because in the short term your winning.

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Yeah in everything women live life on easy mode. They get approached, they dont need any value to provide, be interesting or do any type of work to have friends or have a partner.

Its extremely easy to have a very looking good body as a women. Just dieting for 3 months and going to the gym mildly, will gonna get you a really good physique, on the other hand men need to be very on point to have a good looking body (in society’s standard)

Women have a opt out solution to if nothing works, just use pussy option to survive. Men dont have any power like this, there is no power or no one to save you, when you hit rock bottom, its you vs the world. You have to grind brutally to get something.

People have mercy on women, society have no mercy for men. When a crime happens, women are treated with ease, whilst the men is getting treated brutally.

And there is hundreds of stuff there that can be written here. Life for women (in video games perspective) is rookie difficulty, for men life is on extreme difficulty.

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Rape exists.

And sure, as long as you can avoid sexual assault, you can choose to be celibate. I did. I still realize that's not a choice most people are going to make. My libido may be nonexistent, but that's not the case for most people. Most people are going to experience lust, and lust makes people stupid.

If you're lucky, you would've been taught about consent and safe sex (which isn't 100% effective, but it's better than the alternative), but as someone born in the Bible Belt...yeah, let's just say that I didn't really know what a condom was until I was out of high school. It is a lot easier for abusers to take advantage of people who aren't taught about consent and safe sex. I didn't experience it with myself, thank goodness, but I have seen it happen to other girls. Purity culture fucks people up.

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Yeah its fair, because the things they go through is 100x easier and less brutal than what men experience. Their benefits is so high compared to their disadvantages. For men YOU have to create the benefits, if you sit on your ass all day and do nothing, the only benefit you have as a man is being physically strong and thats it. If you have no ambition, social skills, status etc. You are fkin cooked. If you dont go through trauma you are cooked. Because let me tell you something, women will never understand how privileged they are because society cares about them without doing shit. They are never alone, they have sexual access anytime, they can manipulate to get something because of their sexuality etc.

Men on the other hand no one gives a flying fuck. You dont have sexual access anytime (THAT MEANS YOU GONNA THINK ABOUT SEX A LOT UNLESS YOU HAVE IT), while on the other hand women are chill with it, they dont care 0. You must bring value to the friend group or your friends dont care, you must improve yourself to be valued. Women have a abundance mindset in everything, women are never ever ever going to be feeling as desperate as men in their lives ever. Everything is given to them. Absolutely everything.

You get all these perks and the only disadvantage you have is having cramps once a month. Now compare this shit to what men go through.

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A trend because men are doing locker room talk? I mean isnt locker room talk known for being misogynistic and crude to women? Is it not logical for women to be offended by that? Its not very professional.

The fact that the women get all the easier jobs, couldnt that have sonething to do with availability, health reasons, etc. If a male employee is familiar with a destination, would it not make sense to send him there for example? If a woman has kids or is pregnant, naturally it would be better for her to not travel so far. Women usually are the designated caregivers, while men usually can put more focus on their career alone.

In my personal experience, both women and men have been given equally challenging tasks. If anything it has usually been the women who have taken the more physically and mentally demanding tasks. The women have usually been the ones with more competance with technology, so the tasks surrounding that has also gone to them.

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I'm a woman and none of those things apply to me or any of the women I know

Just because you don't do them, doesn't mean you can't. And average women absolutely get these benefits. So let's jump for a moment into the shoes of a woman from the bottom 30th percentile in attractiveness. Her experience is shared by 80-90% of men. And even then, she's often pitied, not actively hated or a complete ghost. And THAT is life on easy mode.

To further drive this point home, I'm going to ask you a very simple question: how many times in your life have you had the shit beat out of you just because of the way you look? If that number is 1 or zero you live life on easy mode.

Also aren't there men who avoid prison because they are attractive?

Not really. I mean, there was that case when some crazy skanks did come together and post a what? million dollar bail for the hot career criminal, but that just shows that the caliber of women today is going to shit.

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I literally can't. I have never been exempt for the consequences of my actions. While I have seen attractive women get away with quite a lot. As an ugly woman, law enforcement and security guards have always been harsh and strict with me. Strangers as well tend to be pretty dissmissive and apathetic to me, so not sure about that one.

Have never had a boss that would consider sleeping with his employees. All my bosses has either been women or men, all very professional. I have had to work for my career just like anyone else, with many application rejections and failed interviews. Im now very grateful for the job I have, as it is the first one after many rejections.

Do you have those stats from a place? What do they measure exactly? If I ever complain about my issues, I am usually told to suck it up and improve myself, so not sure about the pity thing.

I have never been beaten up, and neither has many men. Just like there ARE women who has been assaulted for being ugly. While being beaten up for your looks is awful, its nit necesserly the result of a gender problem but rather an area-problem.

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I guess, yes, a boss woudn't advertise it. But I also know that all such dirty secrets gets revealed after working there for long enough. I have also only worked in fields where the women in positions of power genuinly were skilled. So if they slept their way up, it was wholly unessecary.

I have seen the stats that is always brought up, but where are they from exactly? What group (age range, ethnisity, nationality) did they use as subjects. Were they showed pictures to rate? Was it done in person or online? All of this is necessary info because a small controlled, isolated study doesnt decessarily reflect attraction in real life. And if women find 80% of men unattractive, there are a lot more than 20 % of men in relationships. I mean there are many studies showing that the majority of men mostly only prefer D cups or bigger. Does that mean that women also struggle with dating?

I apologize, as a person with a violent past I did project here a bit.

I'm sorry you went through that, thats awful.

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It means what it says.

With the exception of maybe those born under a lucky star or very wealthy, there are almost no man in America who has as easy as 80% of women. Or as some will say it "Men live life on hard mode"

I think around 60%-ish of men of college age or older think some version of that. Boys have no basis so they believe their mothers about how "women work hard" but as you get older and interact with the world, you notice how much easier women have it. Including their own mothers. Many even envying their mothers easy lives.

Grades, loans, jobs, promotions, housing, food, etc. everything seems handed to them because some guys (and sometimes gals) want to sleep with them, keep sleeping with them or with their friends/colleagues. So it feels unjust.

Yes, there is pretty privilege, women who are pretty have it much much much easier, so much so they must only say they want something to get it, but "Ugly women are like men, they must work for shit" just not as much.

Sure, Periods, Birthing, and Being a single mom seem horrible experiences but I would say they are about on the same level as your average guy, Women don't seem to ever feel any meaningful adversity from life. Specially if you are pretty or young.

That is why women are so immature and so "crazy" without any meaningful adversity, they don't ever grow strong. And because they don't ever grow strong, they enter a vicious cycle of self destruction where they are bored thanks to having it so easy, and doing stupid shit just to keep the boredom away, causing them to have it harder and harder with time.

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I am referring to the constant things we see women live.

Want a job? one tweet and a few dozen resumes and you get it. Want a promotion? keep working very little but in the eyes of management, Want a family? thousands of dudes show up. Want an education? Banks are betting someone else will pay for it. Want to live on her own? plenty of people will pay for your bills "until the day they are stable" which never comes.

It undermines this idea that women work hard for anything when, we, men, can see the difference in work between your average man and your average woman. Some hermit gamer in reddit works more than your average woman. And we are supposed to keep calling her hard working?

I realize this capitalist propaganda of "women working hard" is necessary to keep women in offices, colleges and factories toiling away, voting for and being sexually used by the capitalists and their managerial class. But come on. "Women can notice men staring at their breasts" just seem to be a fake saying cause it is a constant in all environments. And somehow women react in hostility to anyone bringing attention to it. So we all keep it quiet. Quiet but not unaware.

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You're living in a fantasy. Every single woman who works has given a bj to get where they are? So millions of women have all had sex with their boss, and so every single male boss have had sex with every single female employee he has? Do you realize how crazy and childish that sounds? If thats the case, that would reflect pretty poorly on mens' professionalism as well. Saying that every single woman over me got there by giving a BJ implies that no woman ever has any skill, which completely undermines the very real skill most women have. Or do you genuinly think most nurses, teachers, retail workers, etc. are completly incompetent? Most women I have worked under are very skilled, so if they slept their way up, it was wholly unesessary.

And what about women with female bosses? Do they give sexual favors to each other as well? And how would this effect my hard work? How would other women supposedly giving sexual favors effect the fact that I have not, and have gotten to where I am because I have worked for it?

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I don't know you. Personally. But I know the women around me, and very few women actually needed to study hard for their degrees.

And with one single exception, none of them actually paid any of their tuition, as their husbands, BFs, or as a last resort, parents paid it instead.

And of those women I did see work, they worked less than half of a male peers. Spending more times talking and in their phones than actually working, yet continuing to go up because they would be talking with management about vacations instead of, you know, working.

This type of easy life is the shit we are talking about. We have eyes.

There are some who do work hard, there are some who earned merit, but the great majority? Basically reliant on family, lovers, orbiters, government or the like. All while having the gall to say they "worked hard". We let women complain, yes, we let women think they are hard workers? yes. are they? not really.

Let us all be real here, we live in a capitalist system where women are constantly being bombarded with propaganda to make them continue working, voting and fucking a certain way. But propaganda is not reality. We have eyes.

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I mean your personal experiences does not mean its the majority. My experiences are the complete opposite of yours, with men not picking up their work, simply getting into positions because them being men is assumed to make them more competent. One man I know have no competance in his field, but got his position because he can talk (nit about anything relevant). He has now multiple complaints from other employees because he cant do his job. In all my jobs the women cant just slack off because they are highly stressfull jobs where everyone needs to be engaged at all times. I have met as many useless male employees as female employees.

By your logic that means that the majority if men dont really work that hard and arent very good at their job. But I think we both know thats a bit ridiculus statement to make purely based on personal experience.

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Why does it need to be majority? It is observable facts. The majority of people are a bunch of idiots who fall for the "dont believe your lying eyes" from capitalists and cant see the obvious propaganda to their face. How do you trust people? I don't. I trust my eyes.

A woman cannot even talk like a normal person nowadays. They talk about energies and vibes because they lack proper vocabulary or a drive to solve problems. How are they supposed to be functional members of an organization? In what exactly is one to rely upon to assume competence from women? women fail at the one thing they are known to do exorbitantly and love to do. Talk. You said it yourself. So why would anyone trust a woman?

I would go as far as say that the best female conversationalist is as good as your average middle management guy. Because he cant rely on being desired by those above secually to keep a job. Everything he is is through merit. And its better to risk a noob guy in than an assured failure than it a woman.

This is a single experience vs a continuous set of experiences too. How many times did a woman ever do a proper job in your life? How many with men? Exactly. When a woman works well, thats the exception. Not the rule. The opposite is also true with men. Are there bad men? Sure. Are there good women? Sure. But they are usually rare and almost unheard of.

There is a reason why every single female worker, manager and business owners dreads having to work with women. They know that if a man is not doing his job and hers. She gonna lose her source of income. And if women cant trust women. Why would anyone else?

How many companies must go bankrupt? How many must go to jail for corruption? How many small offices with 8-20 guys must buy gigantic companies with hundreds of workers because more than half are women until you learn why people prefer men?

I get it. It is hard to accept your limitations. I will never be able to live as an easy life as a woman. I will never get sex by just opening my legs either. But don't ask me to join the chorus of capitalist fucks that women are equal to men. I just dont wanna be part of the delusion game just to decrease everyones wages, voting in corrupt politicians and using their sexuality to keep a job that could have been a better for everyone if it was made by a guy.

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Well, I must say that this is probably one of the most delusional comments I have ever seen. I will point out that everything you just said are pure anecdotes and personal experiences. Like most red pill men you simply just say things and call it facts. Your observations or observable facts as you call them, are not more real or true than my observed experiences. And as long as you only see what you want, everything wil support your views.

- I dont trust capitalist either. But I can distrust capitalists without being delusional.

- Women talking wierd is a phenomena on the internet. You are assuming women are incompetent in the workforce because some are using a few wierd words..., specifically how some speak on the internet. Im going to assume you don't hold the same standard for the men yapping about high value, alpha males, betas, sigmas, sub3s and whatnot. I know red pillers love their duble standards. Maybe get off the internet for a bit.

- "You said it yourself. So why would anyone trust a woman?"

I never said that women love to talk. Funnily enough many studies has shown that men usually talk more, and will assume a woman is dominating a conversation if she talks only half of how much the man is talking.

- The comment on female conversationalst is again based on feelings. Women are neturally better with people and kids, thats why they excel in fields with people. And women, again, have to work for what they want. Women are not just let in because they are a woman; never have I or any other women I know. We have all worked to get in. And the reason we get in is because we have the degrees, skills and competance, and that is shown in our work. When my female coworkers literally fix problems and carry the team through stressfull times, its hard to deny that they have the skills nesessary.

- A woman being good at her job is not an exception. This is yet again just your opinion, and not an actual fact. Almost all the women I have met have been competent. Your experiences being different does not make what you said universally true.

- "How many companies must go bankrupt? How many must go to jail for corruption? How many small offices with 8-20 guys must buy gigantic companies with hundreds of workers because more than half are women until you learn why people prefer men?"

What are you even talking about? How you have managed to blame women for (assumedly) men going to jail over corruption, I don't know. Thats a great way to not hold men accountable for their actions I guess. Most businesses I know in my field still are male dominated and continues to mostly hire men. But if small businesses have to buy bigger ones because there are women in the business (?) I also assume we should get rid of things like gender points in education? Something that hurt the larger population of appliers in favor of the few. I don't think its right that men should get priority into certain studies at universities simply because they are men. Nursing, teaching and bio-engeneering are female dominated fields because women actually wants to do those jobs and because they are better at them than men. So men shouldn't be alllowed to get a free pass to get in with less work than the women applying. And yes this is a thing in my city.

- Don't worry, i can perfectly fine accept my limitations. They are something i work on every day. They are just not the limitations you described. You can make up as many fanfics about me as a woman and other women as you want, but they will simply never be true. I have a professional relationship with all my male coworkers and bosses, and I'm proud to say that I have build the relevant skills to get to where I am today because I love to learn new things, and being a reliable coworker gives me a sense of meaning :)

I'm not going to ask you to join the "chorus of capitalist fucks", I think you should be able to be angry and bitter in peace. So I'll let you fester in your bitterness if that makes you feel better. I am now going to continue doing my stupid incompetent woman things. I wish you the best!

Ps. your vibes and energy are pretty bad

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I am talking about things that happen all the time around america tho. Its not my experience but everyone's. That is why my ideas are so wide spread. Even if not discussed in "polite society".

When a woman's career struggle to go anywhere in the late 20s to early 30s and while most men seem to continue fine until their 50s and 60s dont say it was unexpected. The signals where always there. The propaganda can't really change reality just distract you from it.

Also capitalists and their managerial class are not your friends or allies. They dont actually think you are a skilled worker compared to men. They know the truth. They just dont say it. If their eyes glued to the asses or chests of women didn't give it away until now.

I dont care to convince you. Just to make you pay attention.

Eventually a good deal of women notice it too in the later half of their working lives. I hope you make sure you get enough contacts, skills and relationships with skilled men to last your working lifecause its unlikely you will have many chances with age. Men have merit. Women don't. Everyone later in life knows that.

The world doesn't need any more aunties who cant retire thanks to their looks fading and their employability tanking. Way too many women fall for the capitalists lies and never prepare. So shit hits the fan if they cant find a man to provide or a child to carry her weight. It is smart to prepare for the future. Even if you dont believe me.

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I disagree. There are plenty of dudes who are actually average looking, but they may be mentally not all there or have really bad social anxiety, whatever. There’s actually a decent amount of stories online of prostitutes feeling bad for certain clients and semi coaching them to date other women. There’s also plenty of women who do the job because they actually like the physical activity, many porn stars claim that it’s their dream job because they get paid to do something pleasurable.

Secondly, I don’t think the level of disgust is equal. If it’s with the gender you actually like, then there may be some angles or moments where you can convince yourself they’re attractive, but if it’s the opposite gender, then there’s no angle where you can convince yourself. If a straight dude is forced to do gay acts there’s no way he can rationalize a penis in his mind to mean woman.

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An average girl creates a dating profile tonight and has couple hundred matches by next morning.

An average guy does not get that same amount of matches in a decade.

A skinny girl is wow.

A skinny guy is whatever.

A fit girl only needs to work 6-12 months for it.

A guy has to do it for at least 2-3 years to reach an even remotely similar physical market value.

A fit girl gains access to the very best of men, despite having little to nothing else going for her.

A fit guy with poor finances opens way less doors.

Bottom line is that women don't need to perform, and those that choose to do it have a much easier path than their male counterparts. Society tries to sell this asymmetry as equality. It's not.

I don't care much for it, because luckily for me I'm part of a tiny subcategory of men that never had these issues, but I definitely understand why most guys are pissed about it. It would be hypocritical to ignore it.

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I think this depends on which group of women you look at. I don't think many women living in Afghanistan or similar countries have it easy. A lot of third world countries are still behind on the Western standard for womens rights and education too.

If you look closer to home, the women you see or hear about online on "easy mode" are probably exactly that: women you see online. The sample ain't exactly representative of the whole population. Of course you see more rich OF girls or "spoiled" wives online, they're usually the ones most comfortable with posting about themselves online. I don't think (for example) a single mother of three would have much time to boast about her life online, let alone have something to boast about.

The argument of all women being on easy mode is a bit like that image of the survivor's bias plane: it looks like all girls have it easy because the ones who don't almost never make it to your screen.

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We mean that women are valued just for existing.

In contrast, a man has to justify, assert, and prove his worth with every breath. A man has to grow, adapt, build, and construct himself, make himself, build himself and then assert himself into a world that would rather not have him in it. Existence for a man is a fight. There is no class, no manual, no coaching that tells boys how to fight into adulthood, we are expected to figure all this shit out entirely by ourselves while weeding out all the misinformation, deceptions, and falsehoods that feminist society throws at us. It's a fucking gauntlet and the reward for our troubles is that we reach an adulthood where we are just insulted a little less than the other guys who didn't quite make it. The Blue Pillers and other assorted broken men whose masculinity didn't survive the trials and adopted an effeminate and victim minded demeanor in life.

All the while we are struggling just a find and then assert a fucking reason to even exist we see girls selling their asses for millions of dollars online to the simps who failed at their trials and chose instead to just subsidize women's lives just for the illusion of pussy. We see women given the benefit of the doubt, getting away with literal murder, society completely in their favor in every way both legal and cultural. This is why we say that women have life on easy mode.

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Many valid points. - Men being forced into the military is forced by the men in power, so thats something you should discuss between each other. -Men paying for dates is largely dependent on what woman you are going out with and is something you can refuse to do if you dont want to. You might get some shit for it, but it is not a forced obligation. - Pretty sure more clubs are starting to charge women as well now to get entry 😅 - Most women actually experience not being taken seriously by health care providers. With many women going undiagnosed or misdiagnosed and getting less painkillers for the same issues as male patients. - Many actual rapist do not go punished for their crimes as sexual violence can be tricky in court. Last year the city I live in had 5 different sexual assault/rape incidents, with every single perpetraitor going free, despite the fact that in some of the incidents the perpetraitors literally saying that they raped the victim. - Women are held accountable for poor behavior. Women are fired from jobs where they behave inapropriatly, if they plagiarize others' work they get expelled, if they make fake acusations about men in the gym they get hate comments and critique by the larger internet, etc. I myself has never been coddled when I have fucked up, and neither has any of the women I know.

I have some points too: - More likely to be sexually assaulted and harassed, with a majority experiencing it - Less likely to be taken seriously at work, and is accused of sleeping your way to the top if you are ever succsessfull - Are constantly pushed to have kids, and has your womanhood questioned if you don't - Always being the designated parent, having to take on most or all of the responsibilities of child care regardless of you being fully employed as well - Sex is severely more risky for you - Having to be the one to carry and birth children - Having your rights to your own body still being discussed - Having to be the one taking birth controll that messes up your hormones, despite men being the ones who can impregnatr multiple women

I don't know. Doesnt seem like all rainbows and unicorns. Not saying women have it worse, just saying that claiming that women have it super easy isnt quite correct either.

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Birth control isn't free, it requires doctors appointments and a prescription.

Some women will experience detrimental side effects while trying to avoid pregnancy.

If birth control fails there is the option of abortion, but not everyone is pro-choice, abortion is still not free, and it is also a physically uncomfortable and sometimes scary medical event.

Abortion access is also increasingly restricted.

Men do not carry the risk of their birth control failing and a fetus growing inside their body that they must quickly make a decision about and act on, men don't go through the physical discomfort that comes with every step in that process, and they don't have to pay for it either if they don't choose to.

Women CAN get pregnant. They MUST deal with the realities around that fact, one way or another. They can take steps to avoid it, but those steps come with their own physical and financial costs. Men don't have to concern themselves with any of that. That's the difference.

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Title	What do some men mean when they say 'woman have life on easy mode?'
Author	AdhesivenessEven7287
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Date	January 4, 2026 8:36 PM UTC (6 months ago)
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