I have no words for this

unbelievablepeople · 2016-07-15T21:45:38+00:00

Although he is out of prison, this case is still not over for him. He's currently scheduled for a re-trial in November: http://www.denverpost.com/2016/05/04/second-trial-of-clarence-moses-el-postponed-until-november/

The current district attorney who is insisting on re-trying him becomes term-limited at the end of this year, so here's hoping he's able to delay this trial until next year and the next district attorney drops it. If anyone here lives in Denver and wants to do a good deed, contact the two candidates for district attorney and tell them you'll only vote for them if they pledge to drop charges against Clarence Moses-EL.

McDermidisGod · 2016-07-15T17:30:52+00:00

No cat calling. No whistling.

But no appearing in dreams? Damn.

j0c1f3r · 2016-07-15T20:46:51+00:00

This exact thing happened to me, but my whole family was at the house and told the officers that i never left. There was also no evidence that she had anything done to her either, thank god. It would have screwed my whole life up, i was 18.

bigeyedbunny · 2016-07-15T18:32:16+00:00

The case involved a woman who was attacked after she returned home from a night of drinking.

More than a day after the assault, the woman identified Moses-EL as her attacker, saying his face appeared to her in a dream.

He had no connection at all with the rape. It didn't matter

http://nydailynews.com/news/national/man-freed-imprisoned-28-years-dream-rape-claim-article-1.2474475

It's a result of years of feminism activism, and blind "listen and believe".

How feminism works IRL:

http://i.imgur.com/oUL6J8N.jpg

We live in a world where proven false rape accusers are getting "Woman of Courage" international awards from the world's largest feminist organization:

http://i.imgur.com/TbPTXKZ.jpg

Because the actual number of rapes are at a historical low, and continuing to fall, the feminists, in order to maintain their "rape culture" bullshit narrative, they spike them up with false rape accusations as the UVA Jackie story, the mattress girl, etc:

http://i.imgur.com/IDv7xAR.jpg

JackGetsIt · 2016-07-15T18:02:56+00:00

There should be a law that false accusers have to repeat how ever long their victim had to spend in jail.

Jeakins · 2016-07-15T21:11:34+00:00

It's insane the way the system is with cases like these.

I'm 20 years old, fully employed in an electrical apprenticeship, nothing on my record, and am not a criminal. I went to fix a neighbors furnace and here I am on house arrest, and going through a lot of emotional and financial stress that no good citizen should have to go through. An article was posted, I've spent over $8,000.00 already and once I'm proven Not Guilty, I won't receive a dime.

This system is so screwed up, I understand that we must keep horrible people contained and not running around doing bad things.. But I shouldn't: have my address posted on an article that portrays me as a rapist, have to pay money for something I didn't do that won't ever be repayed, but most of all, go through the emotional toll and live the rest of my life knowing I was charged with this.. All because a woman SAID I raped her. I have to also pay to get the arrest off my record even when I'm innocent. It's honestly ridiculous.

I WANT justice. I WILL get it.

btw I have a lawyer.

Fixer_ · 2016-07-15T20:50:06+00:00

My ex girlfriend used to have dreams that I cheated on her and would be visibly upset with me because of it.

That's one of the many reasons she is now an ex girlfriend.

I_Am_Ted_Cruz · 2016-07-15T18:37:22+00:00

This world is a nightmare

Dietrik · 2016-07-15T18:30:15+00:00

this some philip k dick shit right here.

Pseudonymble · 2016-07-15T20:44:06+00:00

you know the old adage... "If you can't to the time, don't have your dream-doppelganger do the not-crime...."

Proteus_Marius · 2016-07-15T19:04:32+00:00

It isn't over...

...but investigators claim the confession was a lie.

And how does any US judge allow statements about a dream into evidence in a court of law?

Gross incompetence isn't just a Clinton core competency, it seems.

BrittneyMitts · 2016-07-15T20:36:40+00:00

This man was in jail for something he didn't do for longer than I've even been alive. That's insane to me. I truly hope that there will be steps taken to help him readjust to society, and fitting damages paid to him. I hope the woman who accused him and the legal team responsible for allowing a dream to be enough evidence see punishment for the damage they have done to him.

RzK · 2016-07-15T23:12:59+00:00

Excuse my ignorance if i'm wrong about this. But I find it strange that people like the FBI can't exactly predict a nutjob they're keeping an eye on is about to shoot up a school and stop him before-hand because evidence is important before acting. But with LITTLE evidence, someone could get tossed behind bars for being accused of rape.

Hard to explain exactly what I mean, hopefully someone will get what I mean.

SuggestiveMaterial · 2016-07-15T20:10:31+00:00

This isn't just a men's rights issue... this is a common sense issue. This is awful and show cases the stupidity of some courts of law, and the juries they employ.

TeamKennedy · 2016-07-16T03:25:36+00:00

I can't even imagine, at 28 years so much of your life is lost. I'd be tempted to not even go on and just hold a gun up to my head and call it quits. This man is truly has incredible strength to go through something like this and still continue.

Pannra · 2016-07-15T21:38:24+00:00

Remember this story broke last year. Looks at poster. That cheeky bastard.

Trident1000 · 2016-07-16T01:36:16+00:00

The due process bar (beyond reasonable doubt) is not set high enough. We need to demand the system is changed.

wes1274 · 2016-07-15T22:15:09+00:00

I thought we had judges in the US?

CaptainCruiser · 2016-07-15T23:07:39+00:00

This is so ridiculous, I literally had to stop and check to make sure this isn't /r/nottheonion. How did this even....I don't know what to say.

notmadatall · 2016-07-16T05:27:14+00:00

28 years for rape, is this a common sentence in the US?

DarthRoacho · 2016-07-15T17:58:59+00:00

This has to be satire. This can't be real.

TruffleWuffles · 2016-07-15T21:37:28+00:00

What. The. Fuck. How does this shit happen? How do people not laugh this shit outta the court? I mean rape is serious, but you had a dream he raped you? THATS YOUR OWN WEIRD SUBCONSCIOUS YOU STUPID BITCH. Congratz ABSOLUTELY DESTROYING A MANS LIFE.

Lionfish_Attack · 2016-07-16T00:14:22+00:00

Shit like this would make me kill every person involved in my trial.

classbraxton · 2016-07-16T01:56:05+00:00

It's scary as hell that enough people heard this in court or wherever and were like... Yeah, this dude totally did this. Why else would he have appeared in her dream. We better lock his ass up so he won't do this sorry shit again... Are you kidding me?

pugsaredrugs · 2016-07-16T04:52:59+00:00

How can someone be locked up for rape for so many years but murder gets people less time???

double-happiness · 2016-07-16T10:14:04+00:00

http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/11/24/10-innocent-black-men-recently-freed-after-spending-decades-in-prison/

http://www.kpbs.org/news/2010/oct/04/sd-rape-accusations-have-racial-implications/

http://falserapesociety.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/when-rape-lies-tap-into-racial.html

Isterpenis · 2016-07-15T23:17:26+00:00

28 Years for rape? That is fucking crazy. Then again I live in a country that wants to rehabilitate prisoners so it might just be from my culture viewpoint.

hypedoncaffeine · 2016-07-16T00:38:32+00:00

and now she SUDDENLY remembers it was a dream? Send her to prison!

jamestheman · 2016-07-15T19:09:00+00:00

I have words for it. "Dumb. Cunt."

saskue827 · 2016-07-16T09:07:48+00:00

I feel like the bit about "There were six bone fractures to her face, and she lost vision in one eye." is getting glossed over.

Pseudonymble · 2016-07-15T20:41:35+00:00

I had a dream where Dr. Evil stole my millions... COMPENSATE ME!!!!!!!!!

elegant_groundhog · 2016-07-15T21:34:37+00:00

Dream a Little Dream of Me.

AngryDeer · 2016-07-15T22:48:34+00:00

Sub-human scum.

RaisedByWolves9 · 2016-07-16T01:23:54+00:00

Reminds me of my mate back in highschool. His missus had a dream he cheater on her and she didn't talk to him for a few days (she was legit pissed off)

Who-trew-dees-beans · 2016-07-16T02:39:37+00:00

Is there a gofudme for this guy? This is terrible

CyFus · 2016-07-16T03:10:10+00:00

reading this sub reinforces my fear of women

Okami808 · 2016-07-16T03:19:42+00:00

What about the woman?! Who's name is left out of every article I've read on this. What has been done about her? Any interviews? I'd really just like to know if she feels remorse or guilt for what happened.

tell_tale_knocking · 2016-07-16T03:44:48+00:00

They should show the face of the woman, not his, in articles like this.

Lift_Like_A_Sith · 2016-07-16T04:37:32+00:00

Rapey Krueger

Vorpal_Spork · 2016-07-16T06:49:25+00:00

Tomorrow's story: Man who dreamed of killing false accuser for 28 years makes dreams come true.

Seananiganzx · 2016-07-16T11:24:19+00:00

I'm genuinely furious about this.

Lemonhead89 · 2016-07-16T13:05:42+00:00

The disease that is the modern, third-wave feminism is as poisonous as ever. I despise all who endorse their world view with passion.

mcmikechan123 · 2016-07-16T13:09:07+00:00

i guess this is what rapper means when a bitch fuks u ova

abacabbmk · 2016-07-15T19:42:47+00:00

Well Freddy Krueger is fucked.

revenjack · 2016-07-15T22:14:27+00:00

How are we not having riots over this shit.. wtf

Plataneraso · 2016-07-16T14:24:16+00:00

America, where being white and getting caught red handed raping a woman doesnt require jail time because it might hurt the person. But at the same time, black men are arrested for 28 years because they appeared in someones dream.

Proudly_American · 2016-07-15T20:03:17+00:00

/u/gallowboob in /r/mensrights ? I approve.

bettingdog000 · 2016-07-15T21:36:19+00:00

Clarence Moses-EL, 60, had just posted a $50,000 bond that a judge required for his freedom after she overturned his 1988 conviction on rape and assault charges and found that he would likely be acquitted if his case went to trial again.

xaivteev · 2016-07-15T21:38:31+00:00

Kill me now, I can't wait for natural causes. There's too much stupid in the world.

Saerain · 2016-07-15T22:48:23+00:00

I darkly enjoy the first title, as it can be read that a woman who dreamed that he raped her was jailed and set free, and he's taking her place for some reason.

Ookami82 · 2016-07-15T22:48:55+00:00

Give him back those years. Idk how but make it right.

a_white_american_guy · 2016-07-15T22:53:18+00:00

How do you even begin to make things right for this guy. How?

xa3D · 2016-07-15T23:35:05+00:00

The fact that you can even twist the law to override common sense is astounding.

wittingtonboulevard · 2016-07-15T23:57:32+00:00

Isn't this fake??

WellPlayed100 · 2016-07-16T00:18:02+00:00

Falsely accusing someone like this is an act that to me is right up there with the absolute worst. They irrevocably ruin someone's life and for this guy it was some of his best years. He'll never be the same person and he'll always be wondering 'what if?'. Poor guy, I hope the liar who took all those years from him gets what they deserve.

agangofoldwomen · 2016-07-16T00:54:12+00:00

Fuck.

electricaxe · 2016-07-16T02:10:14+00:00

Gotta love the daily mail...

https://youtu.be/5eBT6OSr1TI

ZombiWorm · 2016-07-16T02:26:07+00:00

she should be sent to prison for this.

Iamahamburger · 2016-07-16T02:52:06+00:00

Where's the sauce on Twitter? I want to rt, but don't want to scroll to 2015.. [edit] found it nvm guys

IWantToBeARedditor · 2016-07-16T03:04:14+00:00

Wow. Such travesty of justice. There is nothing I can say to give that guy all those years back.

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Rokdout · 2016-07-16T04:01:26+00:00

r/nottheonion

JarJar-PhantomMenace · 2016-07-16T04:11:14+00:00

The people who put him away and the lying bitch need to be raped for real.

MasterGoshinki · 2016-07-16T05:37:50+00:00

wooooooooooooooooooooow! if i were that guy....

jj130 · 2016-07-16T06:01:52+00:00

That is absolutely horrifying

ChaosOpen · 2016-07-16T06:07:46+00:00

And I bet he will never get anything to compensate. An idiot woman and a gynocentric justice system put an innocent man in prison for 28 years and now is supposed to just join society and if he isn't productive he will be punished. As for the woman, she won't suffer any consequences, she probably knew she was wrong for a long time but it took her 28 years for her conscious to finally get to her enough to tell someone. He spent 28 years in prison and now he will be told "just be thankful you're out, now shut up and go home."

peluzaz · 2016-07-16T07:37:43+00:00

Lucky guy, at the end he was released. Not like many 'unlucky' guys who have died and will die in prison from false acussations .

Claireah · 2016-07-16T08:35:44+00:00

There is proof of this story in the comments, and I had seen this before now, but we really shouldn't just post a picture of a Twitter post and use it as an example of false rape accusations. Appropriate proof shouldn't have to come from a different person after this is posted.

enkae7317 · 2016-07-16T08:44:58+00:00

Fucking insane. 28 years? For "rape" because some dumb broad THOUGHT he saw this guy in her dreams raping her. And that's all it took. No evidence. No fucking nothing. Straight to the prison house for you.

Guy could've had a record so clean you could see your own reflection but nope, insta-jailed bcuz women's tears are more proof they'll ever need.

Gzalzi · 2016-07-16T08:58:40+00:00

If I was put in prison for a crime I didn't commit, as soon as I got out I'd probably go find who's fault it was and commit a crime to make it worth my time.

lol2173 · 2016-07-16T09:28:55+00:00

I want to know what's going to happen to the woman who put him there.

Probably nothing, hopefully something.

nuesuh · 2016-07-16T09:50:22+00:00

he still has to ask for consent in her imagination.

HotSauciness · 2016-07-16T11:14:47+00:00

GallowBoob

I didn't know you came here

Hey_-_-_Zeus · 2016-07-16T13:17:17+00:00

I want that woman to cry, I want her to cry tears of embarrassment. I want her to cry For the rest of her life

inspective · 2016-07-16T13:57:30+00:00

To be clear...they do realize that dreams are not evidence yes? I don't want to be a people any more. Can I stop being a people?

spitnik11 · 2016-07-16T14:44:18+00:00

There's so much wrong with this, how did they arrest him? What solid evidence did they have? How did she go about reporting it? And what kind of defense attorney does it take to even lose this case?

AtomicNinja · 2016-07-16T15:04:59+00:00

Billy Ocean could be at risk of jails for his "Get outta my dream, get into my car" song.
Women need to be taught not to make false rape accusations.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2016-07-16T15:29:04+00:00

Look at that unchecked male privilege.

NorthsideB · 2016-07-16T15:56:18+00:00

If a woman has a dream of being raped so vividly that she thinks it might be true then she needs serious counseling to figure out what is wrong with her mentally.

RobDog101 · 2016-07-16T16:31:15+00:00

Why is this a thing? I mean women's apparent inability to tell the difference between their dreams/fantasy and reality? I've heard so many women talk about waking up in the middle of the night and hitting their husband/boyfriend because of something they'd dreamed he did. And there have been other stories specifically on this sub, specifically about women dreaming about being raped.

Son of Hinnom I'm glad I'm a homo.

Aidernz · 2016-07-16T16:49:29+00:00

Does that mean if I dreamed I won the lottery, that's all the proof they need? Holy shit, I'm a millionaire*

May or may not have had said dream, though. Gotta be honest, here!

Liv47 · 2016-07-16T17:16:23+00:00

This is the most misleading article title I've ever seen. The woman didn't have a dream that he raped her when she wasn't raped.

She was raped and beaten, and his identity came to her in a dream.

Which is still about as admissible as identifying your attacker by lottery, but nevertheless. Shame on the Daily Mail for their scheming.

pinkelephantpussy · 2016-07-16T17:56:38+00:00

Double jeopardy then so he can do it now right... If he wanted too.

2016-07-16T23:03:55+00:00

this is reality for alot of men. he is only lucky as his story came to the lime might

GeirrJed · 2016-07-23T10:06:05+00:00

Daily Mail, the shitposter of printed media.

Vodiodoh · 2016-08-14T13:33:56+00:00

It reminds me of when my gf has a dream that I cheated on her than wakes up mad at me even though she knows it didn't happen.

Kadexe · 2016-07-15T21:23:24+00:00

After some quick research, it looks like the story is a bit exaggerated. A rape did occur, but it turned out that the blood spatter belonged to another man.

Michael_Grahame · 2016-07-16T02:12:44+00:00

If he was white he would never be put in jail. Sad world we live in.

DrRetrobeef · 2016-07-16T00:31:38+00:00

So no Evidence other that hearsay? Fuck man that sucks... 28 years... He should be allowed to rape her for real

KombatWombat1 · 2016-07-15T20:35:01+00:00

I'd love to see the evidence presented there.

akar0sc0 · 2016-07-16T02:41:02+00:00

Glad the story had a picture, I would never have pictured him as a black guy.

feckinghound · 2016-07-16T06:44:33+00:00

Did u/gallowboob even contribute to any of this discussion?

He couldn't even post an article with the story about it, someone else had to do it.

Not justifiable as a top post and posted only for karma.

ArtThouIncensedBro · 2016-07-16T00:14:31+00:00

And I thought my wife dreaming of me cheating on her was bad...

Wavygrasshopper · 2023-05-19T05:24:40+00:00

Kitchen is where women belong, anywhere else than that? It's a ruin to society

thabutler · 2016-07-16T01:47:53+00:00

This the kinda shit that makes me never want to leave the house

Soveriegn · 2016-07-16T02:49:40+00:00

Fuck off gallowboob

InBaggingArea · 2016-07-15T18:36:01+00:00

You may not have words, but do you have a link?

Devilrai · 2016-07-16T00:51:21+00:00

You can say whaterver you like about me, but the first thing i’ll do if i were him is to get my revenge, do you imagine the torture of being imprisoned without doing anything, just because a slutty bitch said she dreamed you raped her, fuck that.

He’s basically fucked up for life, and unless he have a family that can really support him, nothing will make him feel better, actually he’ll be more depressed to see how the world changed but he was forced out of it thanks to that whore.

xtra_cReddit · 2016-07-16T04:13:59+00:00

Naw, he guilty af

mongachow · 2016-07-15T22:05:42+00:00

Is this fucking real!?? I have no words. And meanwhile Oklahoma just passed a law stating that oral sodomy on an unconscious victim is not rape or sexual assault, allowing a case where an unconscious victim who was found with semen in their mouth and a BAC of .34 to be dismissed entirely. What the actual fuck......

TVBeethoven_ · 2016-07-15T22:40:27+00:00

Bullshit. Don't believe it.

TVBeethoven_ · 2016-07-16T00:54:09+00:00

He did it. Do your research.

Mikithenoob · 2022-04-10T18:02:49+00:00

I'm in tears 😢 both for the poor guy and the fricking society we live in

Taxfraub · 2022-09-02T17:55:10+00:00

no way that’s real that’s gotta be fake

PurpleInTheOcean · 2023-01-05T21:47:33+00:00

Only 6 percent of actual rapists ever see jail, and yet poor men like him are constantly jailed over false accusations. This is fucking ridiculous.

South_Letter2473 · 2023-01-15T20:49:35+00:00

Dude is this sattire

Title	I have no words for this
Author	GallowBoob
Upvotes	9801
Comments	446
Date	July 15, 2016 5:29 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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