"To me, Dunkirk felt like an excuse for men to celebrate maleness—which apparently they don't get to do enough" | Whining feminist asks why director Nolan didn't make a movie about women in World War II instead.

chambertlo · 2017-07-30T05:43:38+00:00

Why don't women make the kind of movie they want instead of expecting men to do it for them?

YetAnotherCommenter · 2017-07-30T05:35:11+00:00

The Dunkirk evacuation was hardly some macho penis-swinging victory. It was a terrifying and horrible snatch-from-the-jaws-of-death experience.

Its interesting... aren't feminists meant to distinguish between biological sex ("maleness" and "femaleness") and gender ("masculinity" and "femininity")? Because how is going off to war... or going to war and being caught in a situation where you have to evacuate and the enemy are closing in rapidly... somehow related to male biology?

We have an entire social apparatus of social shaming and gender roles... not to mention policies like conscription... to force men to "man up". If compliance with male gender roles were a natural, automatic thing, we wouldn't need said social apparatus. The author seems to think that going off to war is just something men do because of biology. That its an automatic reflex. Because that's the only way one can see the film as "celebrating maleness."

tothecatmobile · 2017-07-30T05:23:20+00:00

Genuine question.

Was there ever in recorded history a group of females legally forced to go at war ?

I know there were female warriors even back at medieval times and the USSR had women only groups and some positions such as sniper and pilot for women.

But were they ever forced by law ?

EricAllonde · 2017-07-30T03:38:21+00:00

I guess congratulations are in order for Nolan managing to unite high-brow male critics and very annoying people on Twitter under a common bromance, but to me, Dunkirk felt like an excuse for men to celebrate maleness—which apparently they don't get to do enough. Fine, great, go forth, but if Nolan's entire purpose is breaking the established war movie mold and doing something different—why not make a movie about women in World War II? Or—because I know that will illicit cries of "ugh, not everything has to be about feminism, ugh!"—how about any other marginalized group? These stories shouldn't be relegated to indie films and Oscar season. It's up to giant powerhouse directors like Nolan to tell them, which is why Dunkirk feels so basic. It's a summer war movie.

Does that sound like the usual feminist hatred of straight white men to you? It does to me.

shloopyy · 2017-07-30T04:10:36+00:00

Truly appalling. There are no depths to which feminists won't sink.

Also, I'm having a difficult time remembering the last time we actually "celebrated" maleness. On the contrary males are relentlessly demonized in modern culture while guurl power is everywhere.

ISOanexplanation · 2017-07-30T08:38:40+00:00

Writes an entire review that boils down to some feminist saying, "I get what you're saying, but..."

Unironically writes: "If (this movie) was one of your friends, it would be the one who starts his sentences with "I get what you're saying, but..."

Just stfu. Stop breathing too if possible.

LiamW · 2017-07-30T09:41:14+00:00

Great writing in that article:

"...I understand that this war was dominated by brave male soldiers. I get that. But the packaging of the film..."

Followed by

"If it was one of your friends, it would be the one who starts his sentences with 'I get what you're saying, but...'"

Jesus, the writer explained how the movie was stupid in a way that also could be used to describe themselves as being stupid.

Vidar34 · 2017-07-30T10:12:12+00:00

Only if by 'celebrating maleness' you mean 'men dying in droves to reconquer what's left of Europe from the Nazis'. Isn't actual heroism worth celebrating, regardless of the genders involved? Must male heroes be ignored in favor of female ones?

CouchPoturtle · 2017-07-30T13:09:44+00:00

Does she even realise that Dunkirk is a depiction of real life events and not a fictional tale set during the war? I feel like that has gone over a LOT of people’s heads - people who don’t know much history. Calling it another “summer war movie” is the most uninformed opinion I’ve seen. The events at Dunkirk are responsible for Britain not losing to the Germans. The war could’ve literally ended in that week.

But hey who cares about that when you could use it as a platform to make women and “marginalised groups” feel better.

KingRobotPrince · 2017-07-30T09:27:35+00:00

I kind of feel sorry for her. She's so used to her "inclusive, diversity, safe space, quota of minorities" sheltered upbringing, she's actually not equipped to live in the real world.

Movies are made for entertainment and to make money. If someone wants to make an awesome war film that lots of men want to spend their own money to watch, there's not a damn thing she can do about it.

She can write her article, but it will have no affect on anything. It's just shouting into a vacuum.

The stupidest thing is that if someone wants to write and direct a movie about women and minorities in war, they can. But it isn't going to have the same appeal so won't get the same budget. That's precisely why this that type of film will be an independent movie. It simply doesn't have the mass appeal.

Once again, this is idiots raging against nature.

Reminds me of a mentally disabled man telling me it was "unfair" that sky had all the good programs and that they should "let some of the other channels have them."

Th3BlackLotus · 2017-07-30T08:33:20+00:00

How about we celebrate maleness and you can go fuck off?

PaulMurrayCbr · 2017-07-30T07:22:26+00:00

The hate us, don't they? Purely and simply, no real further explanation needed.

Except maybe this: women who become feminists do it because they hate their fathers.

Sekolah · 2017-07-30T13:04:00+00:00

Celebrating maleness= showing men dying in droves.

fengpi · 2017-07-30T05:35:37+00:00

She doesn't hate men, mind you.

She is merely disgusted by their moral and intellectual inferiority and repelled by the sight, sound and smell of them.

But she doesn't hate men. That would indict herself a bit.

EricAllonde · 2017-07-30T03:32:59+00:00

A movie about women in WWII? That'd be WAC!

rimshot

Proxima- · 2017-07-30T09:59:50+00:00

Taking away from the fact that its a movie based on REAL events and real deaths. Why would anyone think its okay to take away from the fact that we only live in a free world because of these men and women who made the greatest sacrifice one can make. They died so we can live in a free world where we can write and read about the things we want.

bortalizer93 · 2017-07-30T15:16:26+00:00

She did realize that just recently, there's a women only screening of wonder woman, right?

This is why i say over and over again that feminism is NOT about equality. The double standard is uncanny.

wanked_in_space · 2017-07-30T07:35:25+00:00

Like, yes

This is where to stop, like, reading this review or at least giving it any credence.

EricAllonde · 2017-07-30T12:08:21+00:00

Men celebrating their maleness

Found this on Twitter. It got me right in the feels.

Fattybatman3456 · 2017-07-30T09:21:21+00:00

Directed by Christopher Nolan comes...

A Woman Washing Dishes For Three Hours. And Then Her Husband Beats Her.

Fifteen oscars, seven Grammys, nine golden globe awards, best pick for teen choice awards in every category, and a high five from Clinton.

brokenbadlab · 2017-07-30T11:50:14+00:00

Such bullshit.

Spoilers ahead....

One of my favorite scenes in the movie was when the rear admiral was looking through the binoculars on the horizon of the sea. When he realizes that civilians have come to rescue the soldiers his eyes well up, and if I remember correctly he asks a lovely, brave woman on board a ship where they had come from. She responds to him with al the casualness of someone who just hopped out on the boat for a cruise, despite heading directly toward the German meat grinder. It's one of the only times a woman speaks in the movie but it was very impactful for me. She's cheerful and such a welcome presence. It signified, for me, the end of a desperate, hopeless week. What a great decision it was to use an actress in that situation.

anonymous_212 · 2017-07-30T11:51:44+00:00

The story of the soviet women who piloted the "night witches" squadron would make a great movie.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Witches

IVIaskerade · 2017-07-30T14:43:05+00:00

men to celebrate maleness—which apparently they don't get to do enough

No, they don't.

whoisbenward · 2017-07-30T15:06:27+00:00

Despite this being sexist, it's just straight up disrespectful. Does she realise this is a true story? I have distant relative who were at Dunkirk and comments like that just isn't acceptable. Soldiers were hiding under their dead friends body parts and now in seeing comments like this in the media.

Unbelievable.

An_Orange_Steel · 2017-07-30T17:43:31+00:00

You don't see men going to chick flicks coming out complaining, "This movie screams Femininity! We need a guy chick flick." You know why people don't do that? Because it's not a genre targeting men. The war genre targets men, and if they don't they have a difficult time making money. Just like if a chick flick targeted men they wouldn't make money. Different genres are intended for different audiences. But these feminists want every genre to be about women nowadays.

Tgunner192 · 2017-07-30T09:40:10+00:00

Is the writer an actual film critic? Or just some nitwit that has issues with men?

jeff_the_nurse · 2017-07-30T19:58:17+00:00

Maybe she should be glad it's not about women since they weren't forcibly sent to be disposed of during WWII or any other point in history!

zephoxuk · 2017-07-30T12:53:16+00:00

How much time do these people have in their hands? There must be something more useful they could be doing.

ggihhpy · 2017-07-30T13:31:47+00:00

Am untold number of men died so she would have the freedom to express that opinion.

AmuseDeath · 2017-07-30T16:19:22+00:00

Hell yes it's to celebrate maleness. It's a story about how under the most dire circumstances, MEN risked their lives to save other MEN, who already risked their lives to save a country full of their WOMEN.

Someone needs to tell Mehera Bonner that while the movie is about men, it's also about men suffering and dying. There are men getting bombed and losing their limbs. There are men stuck in boats and drowning. There are men getting shot in the eye.

An excuse for men to celebrate maleness? Mehera, please. It's about a miraculous tale that Nolan wanted to tell that just happens to be about MEN. If you are going to bitch, go volunteer for the military, put on a helmet and try seeing what it's like being a soldier.

It's just so sad to hear so many entitled feminists like her moan about men when the fact that she can do that and live freely is all due to the sacrifices men have made in the past. The fact that the movie Dunkirk exists is amazing, but also really sad because so many male lives were lost back then as well as the entire war. If you want a female Dunkirk, you'd have to had a moment in history where women were sacrificing their lives for their country and dying in innumerable brutal ways. The fact that Dunkirk happened is amazing, but it was ultimately a sad thing that a situation like that even did happen to men.

tonylee0707 · 2017-07-30T10:06:29+00:00

shouldnt have clicked on the click and give her a view on her article. best to not give this kind of article any attention at all.

shes an absolute idiot

XFX_Samsung · 2017-07-30T10:10:17+00:00

Seeing as the movie is based on real battles, I guess the author thinks that war as a whole is "basic". What a delusional, sad person.

90-6 · 2017-07-30T10:42:38+00:00

"If it was one of your friends, it would be the one who starts his sentences with "I get what you're saying, but..." As though any friend who respectfully disagrees with your point of view is a bad friend and male.

double-happiness · 2017-07-30T10:46:31+00:00

http://i.imgur.com/FToRdyy.jpg

Symos404 · 2017-07-30T08:11:02+00:00

If my grandfather were still around, I'd ask him how many women where there. He was there and and survived it, hence me able to post about it.

2017-07-30T08:28:12+00:00

A story about the WAAC would be cool and fresh, but that doesn't mean Dunkrik shouldn't be made.

Nergaal · 2017-07-30T11:40:42+00:00

There is no better time to whine patriarchy then after watching a movie that tries to remind us of the forgotten heroes of the past. Imagine the headlines if there would have been male-only screenings like there were for Wonder Woman just weeks ago.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2017-07-30T12:33:19+00:00

Did you just assume they identified as men?!?!

James32015 · 2017-07-30T12:43:43+00:00

"Stuff other than scenes of men burning in oil-covered water, ships sinking, and bodies drowning."

Ok. Our first job when humanity invents time travel is to go back to Dunkirk at the end of May 1940 and ask the men there if they would be so kind as the stop dying and fighting and please do something that will help a privileged young woman 70 years later enjoy a film about their experiences. Perhaps they could contrive some sort of Bridget-Jones-style comic love story.

"I refuse to believe it's possible for any viewer with even a semblance of pop-culture knowledge not see him and immediately go "OMG, it's Harry Styles.""

Ok. So, this person is not worth listening to or paying any attention to.

Tripanes · 2017-07-30T12:52:10+00:00

I get that. But the packaging of the film, the general vibe, and the tenor of the people applauding it just screams "men-only"—and specifically seems to cater to a certain type of very pretentious man who would love nothing more than to explain to me why I'm wrong about not liking it. ... If it was one of your friends, it would be the one who starts his sentences with "I get what you're saying, but..."

If you hate people who say it, why's it that you are literally saying "I get it, but" in the same damn paragraph?

long_black_road · 2017-07-30T14:01:45+00:00

But the packaging of the film, the general vibe, and the tenor of the people applauding it just screams "men-only"—and specifically seems to cater to a certain type of very pretentious man who would love nothing more than to explain to me why I'm wrong about not liking it.

Let's have a women only viewing of Wonder Woman. Because, patriarchy.

Funcuz · 2017-07-30T15:31:49+00:00

Women complain too much and feminists have actually found a way to turn it into a career.

Sure, call me whatever you like. Just stating something I've observed over a period of several decades.

Copidosoma · 2017-07-30T15:38:56+00:00

Boggles my mind (well, not really based on some of the stuff going on lately) that these people can't get it into their head that there are no(very few) women in a movie about Dunkirk because WOMEN DIDN'T DO A FUCKING THING DURING THE BATTLE OF DUNKIRK.

I don't say this very often but... fucking bitch, grab a brain and show some respect for the people who made massive sacrifices for your benefit.

Drezzzire · 2017-07-30T15:42:50+00:00

What a miserable twat

flcks · 2017-07-30T15:46:15+00:00

Why do some feminists whine about Dunkirk not having female main characters? The movie was very clearly supposed to describe war as realistically as possible, and forcing some GURL POWERRR to it would definitely not help them reach that impression.

furnatic · 2017-07-30T18:02:12+00:00

If she wants to bitch about, maybe she should make a movie about Lyudmila Pavlichenko

JakeDC · 2017-07-30T10:57:11+00:00

She must be a miserable person. So, we can take comfort in that.

Endless_Summer · 2017-07-30T09:12:03+00:00

Mental illness in print

A_Direwolf · 2017-07-30T10:34:54+00:00

This idiot makes me want to see this movie again a dozen times over... You know what! I will!!!

Saint947 · 2017-07-30T11:12:57+00:00

Dunkirk had a fucking shitload of problems; its portrayals of masculinity (let alone women) were not one of them.

PoofyPossum666 · 2017-07-30T12:11:14+00:00

Penis envy.

Florist_Gump · 2017-07-30T12:42:21+00:00

When you're a fundamentalist ideologue, anything that doesn't preach your holy word is heresy.

Not putting a feminist message in, say, a documentary on medieval timberwork isn't merely neutral on their message but it actively aggressive against it so must be attacked.

ShoeBang · 2017-07-30T13:00:59+00:00

I often wonder what it's like to be so stupid yet so committed to my stupidity to the point that I think I'm smart.

Rockefor · 2017-07-30T13:25:26+00:00

They already made a movie about women during WW2. It's called A League of Their Own, and it was fantastic.

trout_master_sexy · 2017-07-30T13:40:27+00:00

feminists are so great at dismissing anyone that might have an opinion that goes against what they are trying to convey. "ugh a man will tell us this and that but because I've said that he will say it that means I can dismiss his argument or opinion". luckily heaps of women love this film..feminist scum

TeutonicTwit · 2017-07-30T14:55:01+00:00

Sticking women into the movie would make it a fantasy then.

provocateur__ · 2017-07-30T16:02:23+00:00

Someone needs to explain demographics to feminists. It would be like Nick Offerman trashing an episode of "my little pony" because it celebrated women and had no men in it.

PIG_CUNT · 2017-07-30T19:13:44+00:00

why not make a movie about women in World War II? Or—because I know that will illicit cries of "ugh, not everything has to be about feminism, ugh!"—how about any other marginalized group?

Because not everything has to be about a marginalized group

_pulsar · 2017-07-30T19:26:50+00:00

But the packaging of the film, the general vibe, and the tenor of the people applauding it just screams "men-only"—and specifically seems to cater to a certain type of very pretentious man who would love nothing more than to explain to me why I'm wrong about not liking it.

This person is so insecure it's almost unbelievable.

If you're like me, a random man will come up to you after and explain why you're wrong for disliking it.

r/thathappened

2017-07-30T08:49:04+00:00

I am sure the female war experience would make a great movie, between hiding from the blitz, working in mills/factories, nursing, and spending time dating American GI's. It would be a riveting movie, forget the events of WW2 where men were placed in harms way to prevent the Germans from invading the Island. /s

2017-07-30T09:26:53+00:00

I see what you're saying, but...Yeah, we don't get to man out enough. We live in an infuriatingly feminised society that treats boys like defective girls and are constantly try's to tell us we can't be men because we get to do that too much. Even though that is demonstrably false.

Now, shut your mouth and let me sit agog pretending to be a Spitfire pilot in an IMAX for an hour and a half. Please.

speedisavirus · 2017-07-30T10:49:26+00:00

Because it would be boring as fuck

Oryan_18 · 2017-07-30T12:00:56+00:00

A movie about women in WWII wouldn't be a war movie at all. Nobody wants to see women working in the shipyards back home. "It's too manly" Maybe that's because war is manly. You'll never see women on the front lines, especially in WWII.

Major_Languid · 2017-07-30T12:44:13+00:00

Speaking of Dunkirk, is it a good movie? I’m planning on watching it when I come home in a week.

deathbyhigh5ing · 2017-07-30T12:46:02+00:00

bitch, make it yourself...i dont get it

Troubleshooter11 · 2017-07-30T13:49:38+00:00

Because the French women were too busy spreading their legs for their German conquerors. And Nolan does not make porn.

Peeka789 · 2017-07-30T14:37:21+00:00

What a cunt

Cardo94 · 2017-07-30T14:55:12+00:00

Holy shit, was the plot of actual history not exciting enough for you? Jesus christ

RothbardRand · 2017-07-30T15:19:53+00:00

My high school newspaper had much higher editorial standards than this. I'm talking about the voice, the constantly interrupting herself, the over the top cutesy tone, the forced casualness and the run on sentences are all atrocities and lead me with the impression the writer is at about an 80 IQ.

And that's not even getting into the use of snotty casual bigotry likes like the fedora remark.

These people are really dumb, dumb enough to think they are superior.

SeventhShin · 2017-07-30T16:01:38+00:00

Movie review: zero discussion of anything related to filmmaking, nothing regarding plot or script, nothing about acting. End the review saying the flaw with the movie is that it wasn't about a completely different subject matter. Is this what we call a review these days? "My biggest issue with this Italian restaurant was that I felt they should have served German food."

I will give a nod for making an actual point on one issue, casting unknown actors can make a movie like this feel more realistic. But hey, I wanted to see this movie without reading about it, and I don't think I did yet.

PIG_CUNT · 2017-07-30T16:01:58+00:00

What's wrong with celebrating and appreciating the men who died as a result of male disposability? Their bravery and sacrifice kept women (like her whinging, useless self) and children safe. It's thanks to them that we're still here, and enjoy the quality of life that we do.

PIG_CUNT · 2017-07-30T17:24:58+00:00

I can't imagine how low your ability to empathize with males has to be to be able to write something like this.

'lol, men dying traumatic deaths en mass, only men would care about such a thing!'

loddfavne · 2017-07-30T19:12:16+00:00

According to feminists Dunkirk was a celebration. Nuff said. Read between the lines.

just-ted · 2017-07-30T19:17:17+00:00

I thought it was a great movie that wasn't very entertaining. I watched more in awe than suspense. I would call it an "important" film, not a great one.

NoFanOfTheCold · 2017-07-30T19:26:01+00:00

It is very much coming from the same place that leads feminists to complain about and fight against efforts too raise awareness about prostate cancer, or men's centers on college campuses. It is supremacy, it is hatred, and it explains why so many of these women are miserable unhappy bitches, because no men will have them. NOTE: the effete beta males who cling to feminism as a thinly veiled method to get laid are not men.

mandel17 · 2017-07-31T00:20:04+00:00

I have a earth-shattering theory about why there weren't more women in Dunkirk. It's because no women fought in it.

keitarofujiwara · 2017-07-30T08:21:14+00:00

Just another cunt trying to gain some attention with this passing wave. Move along people!

Mrtrever · 2017-07-30T10:14:05+00:00

I get that she's whining about the male thing, which is dumb, but I'll actually agree with her critique of the movie. As a guy, I found it boring. I get that it was real, and it would make a great documentary, but as a film it's just one long scene with barely any character. If it was maybe rated higher, and had more intense scenes or gore to shock it may have been better. But because you didn't really see anything, it left me feeling meh. Also, the Harry Styles part is dead on, I didn't realize he was in the film, so seeing him brought be out of it, despite him being rather good.

Sojio · 2017-07-30T11:24:57+00:00

link to the article? Whats this submissions title based on? is it a quote from the article?

jonathanrdt · 2017-07-30T11:27:21+00:00

The true story of women in wwii would be great: working in factories building tanks and planes and munitions.

Could talk about the growth of their independence and the propaganda that pushed them out of the workforce and back into the kitchen to make room for returning servicemen at the conclusion if the war.

There's plenty of great material for a very compelling narrative.

2017-07-30T11:35:06+00:00

watch atonement

bustnutsonbuttsluts · 2017-07-30T13:08:32+00:00

I bet she's fun on a date.

lordperzeval · 2017-07-30T13:39:23+00:00

Kathryn Bigelow made frickin Hurt Locker

Where was this article then?

tbarden · 2017-07-30T13:47:09+00:00

Perhaps Nolan should have cast all of the unnamed masses of "good person" roles as women. Then kept the faceless "bad people" who were trying to kill them, as male. No plot needed. Simply an accurate portrayal of male privilege. After all, the facts are less important than the sentiment.

2017-07-30T13:57:52+00:00

Sorry y'all get to miss out on the fun of seeing your buddy get ripped in half by an MG42 at the ripe age of 18;)

tactlessturtle · 2017-07-30T14:22:22+00:00

She's an idiot and possibly a misandrist, but this isn't /r/KotakuInAction and there are no rights being affronted, just poorly informed opinions. As a "film person" I'm far more upset by her absolutely shitty, half-assed, and ranty review about things that are unrelated to the content of the film itself... but someone else being an idiot in their professional opinions on films, especially when they're written for a side-page of an online fashion magazine, doesn't impact me that much (even if she's given a voice by internet trolls who are trying to manufacture outrage at her agenda for THEIR agenda)

Spoiler-ish - I felt the movie was FAR more focused on tone than plot, but that made sense since the plot was trying to be as close-to-real-events as Nolan felt he could allow while making a compelling movie. Same caveat applies to the reason Nolan wrote the 3 primary stories into the script such that there was a disorder of time - that way the climaxes of all stories could occur at the same point of the movie's run time. There are obvious counters to everything in this article, anyone with half a brain and half a fuck could offer counterpoints or outright contradictions to this article which, again, the author didn't see as necessary - she instead started talking about One Direction ("...what the fuck?"). This is tumblr-bait. Don't fall for it, you just give it circulation and give this nonsense a voice.

TL;DR - ("I saw 'Brokeback Mountain', and I'm very disappointed in the lack of martial arts choreography" "...what the fuck?") Judge a movie on its merits, not on arbitrary rules you make up to flunk it because it wasn't what you were in the mood to see. Also, you guys should do better than getting uppity at what's basically tumblr-bait

FanEu7 · 2017-07-30T14:35:12+00:00

Their stupidity always amazes me

Alleghri · 2017-07-30T15:05:52+00:00

Than what is "Orange is the new black?"

PIG_CUNT · 2017-07-30T15:32:05+00:00

If this movie were a dating profile pic, it would be a swole guy at the gym who also goes to Harvard

If this article was a dating profile, it would be a whiney girl who couldn't graduate highschool. The article is written so poorly

scrumchumdidumdum · 2017-07-30T15:38:04+00:00

That movie exists. It's called A League of Their Own

danwincen · 2017-07-30T16:00:52+00:00

Maybe films about women in WW2 are rare because most of the stories of women in WW2 that would make an interesting film would end with them being murdered in enemy custody. See Violet Szabo, Noor Inayat Khan, Cecily Lefort, and Vera Leigh among others.

Films with depressing endings unfortunately don't make for viable films most times.

risklight · 2017-07-30T16:49:03+00:00

did she mean literally instead of ironically ?

SubtleMockery · 2017-07-30T16:52:46+00:00

My mom really wants to see this movie.

atomiswave2 · 2017-07-30T17:13:49+00:00

That man hating radical lesbian feminist is getting paid to watch movies. Why?

50PercentLies · 2017-07-30T17:27:04+00:00

I watch so many YTers that were pised about this movie not having women or showing more of the tiny fraction of soldiers at Dunkirk who were of color.

I don't get it: it's a movie about the experiences of soldiers on that beach. It's not fucking about women. And the vast, vast majority of those soldiers were white, and all the soldiers went through the same horrible stuff.

PIG_CUNT · 2017-07-30T17:27:42+00:00

She's found her niche in man hating liberal feminism. She retweets all kinds of articles that are completely fake news with click bait headlines. As it becomes less popular in the mainstream for this type of liberal feminism she'll have to go deeper down that rabbit hole to keep her income stream. Then she will begin to propagate some really dangerous ideals.

t-dude · 2017-07-30T17:49:50+00:00

WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey · 2017-07-30T19:52:00+00:00

Idiot people saying idiot things to engender attention because they never learned how to do so in a positive way.

Nomenimion · 2017-07-30T20:03:25+00:00

I sure am glad we didn't have to rely on e-feminists to save us from Hitler.

Humes-Bread · 2017-07-30T20:47:41+00:00

This comment is baffling. I hope she doesn't see everything through the lens of men vs women, that'd be a pretty dimensionless world.

Sarin_G_Series · 2017-07-30T21:23:32+00:00

Man if I had the the software to alter this article, it would make a great menkampf post.

SiggiZeBear · 2017-07-30T21:27:51+00:00

"Too many whites" "To many men" Why the fuck is this happening? Has societies before this ever turned into shit like this?

Nezborn02 · 2017-07-30T22:12:18+00:00

I just went and watched this film and I think it truly encapsulates what a horror Dunkirk was. I think it's great to remember the brave men that lost their lives during the war. If women don't want to see men being rescued by civilians then they should just not watch the movie and stop complaining about it.

Damjo · 2017-07-30T22:35:07+00:00

Swiggy · 2017-07-30T23:17:01+00:00

But the packaging of the film, the general vibe, and the tenor of the people applauding it just screams "men-only"—and specifically seems to cater to a certain type of very pretentious man who would love nothing more than to explain to me why I'm wrong about not liking it.

Here's a very positive review from a female reviewer who doesn't seem to have the same problem looking at every film through a narrow filter that looks negatively upon stories that are about men.

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20170728-should-you-see-dunkirk

Thuban · 2017-07-31T00:16:49+00:00

I think the only reason you would want them to shove a female lead in a story just to appease the female audience (a la Micheal Bay's Pearl Harbor) is if you fundamentally don't like men. If it were reversed and say you gave Susan B Anthony a tacked on Male interest in a movie about her life. Can you Imagine the howls of protest?

CriminalMacabre · 2017-07-31T00:24:50+00:00

The notebook

Baconbitsthrowaway · 2017-07-31T00:37:20+00:00

I stopped reading at "fedoras." That woman should not be in the job she is.

kaldrazidrim · 2017-07-31T01:09:35+00:00

Instead of griping, we could discuss the movie. I saw it this weekend, and I thought it was brilliant. Filming on 70mm added a nostalgic feel. I hope it is a trend that continues. Anyway, Nolan continues his string of impressive contributions to cinema.

gregoryopera · 2017-07-31T01:54:27+00:00

So we should take history and replace every male with a female, then make a movie about it and call it "accurate"?

Riiiggghhht... Because not only would that in itself be completely sexist, but it obviously makes loads of sense.

Here's an idea - why not take a historical story around women and make that?

Oh wait, people have done that already - and not once did men whinge that it didn't have enough men in it because (surprise!) it was a historical flick about women !

g_squidman · 2017-07-31T02:26:39+00:00

I don't need an excuse! I'm proud to be male!

knightro2323 · 2017-07-31T03:20:29+00:00

the first woman to ever win an academy award for directing won it for a movie about men in war, I mean what the fuck

UDT22 · 2017-07-31T05:08:43+00:00

Soon men will not be allowed in film or to direct it

IWouldntGoToFrance · 2017-07-31T05:57:33+00:00

I wrote a rebuttal to the author. http://www.countercollective.news/main/pretentious-male-responds-marie-claires-dunkirk-review/

said_sadly · 2017-07-31T16:52:26+00:00

Wow. Just wow. Also I agree with the posters who are saying if women want a movie about women during WW2 they should get off their asses and make it themselves. Same thing with female friendly video games. The moaning over stupid shit makes those of us who are not insane look bad.

ps288 · 2017-08-01T08:20:50+00:00

So many people died in the second world war for freedom. Her freedom to write this garbage comes from their direct actions. She is quite entitled to write whatever she wants, Doesn't mean we have to accept her rubbish though.
Dont get angry about her comments, celebrate them.

danielvutran · 2017-07-30T10:46:31+00:00

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO 2017 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. thank fucking god we have the alpha for pres. these mentally-STUPID AF. folk need to git slapped. -in da face. xdfp

anl625 · 2017-07-30T16:12:12+00:00

Maleness? If maleness = running like cowards. If you want to see real "maleness" check out what happened in the eastern front or the pacific war.

Anyone who knows about history just cringes at silly hollywood propaganda like dunkirk.

If you want REAL maleness, study real history rather than depending on garbage from effeminate hollywood.

deville05 · 2017-07-30T10:19:20+00:00

Its actually not a bad article. Out of 5 paragraphs there is like 1 line of 'making a war movie about women'. Rest of it seems like legit neutral criticism of it as a movie. i haven't watched the movie so I don't know how much of it is correct. But the language for the most part is quite neutral.

PIG_CUNT · 2017-07-30T12:11:36+00:00

This subreddit is hilarious!

Coltons503 · 2017-07-30T14:30:03+00:00

Just goes to show women need to be treated like shit. If we don't go back to the old ways of treating them like property these stupid counts are going to cause our extinction.

placeybordeaux · 2017-07-30T15:27:07+00:00

The Men's Rights subreddit is a place for those who wish to discuss men's rights and the ways said rights are infringed upon.

How does someone complaining about a movie qualify?

Swiggy · 2017-07-30T16:27:14+00:00

I mean ... she can have her feelings and thoughts.

Why does it have to affect you ?

from_nods_to_nothing · 2017-07-30T15:02:38+00:00

This sub is shitty as hell. But yes, this is a ridiculous article.

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