Watching porn is the same as cheating

wtknight · 2022-09-03T22:54:50+00:00

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JMoon33 · 2022-09-03T14:38:20+00:00

masturbating to porn is akin to cheating if you already have a partner

Cheating is whatever your partner and you decide is cheating, there isn't a set of rules that applies to everyone.

Some couples will consider porn a form of cheating, some won't, as long as your partner and you agree, it's all good. :)

KirthWGersen · 2022-09-03T14:45:36+00:00

You sound like Jesus:

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[a] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Rube-And-Tug · 2022-09-03T14:49:19+00:00

It’s cheating if it violates boundaries agreed on by both people in the relationship

I think it’s a reasonable boundary for people to set if that’s something that bothers them, they just have to accept that they’re eliminating a big portion of the dating pool. In my experience most women either don’t care or just don’t want to know about it.

Also just curious: would you also consider reading a fanfic/erotic novel where the narrator acts as a reader stand in to be cheating? Why or why not?

FancyComfortable4678 · 2022-09-03T14:44:24+00:00

Cheating is only possible under agreed upon boundaries.

Rhiojin · 2022-09-03T16:04:35+00:00

Lots of great takes in the comments.

I would like to contribute my own hot take.

Post nut clarity.

The rise of more readily accessible means to post nut clarity has vastly reduced the amounts of depravity and straight up insane shit men get up to. We don't want another Hitler, Attila the Hun or christian crusades (to name a few).

Underestimate the silent psychotic that is testosterone at your own peril.

bunnakay · 2022-09-03T14:35:21+00:00

I'm a woman and I watch porn. I don't agree with it being cheating in the slightest.

armordog99 · 2022-09-03T15:28:13+00:00

That’s why I only watch porn with my wife. That way we are cheating on each other together.

Though she only looks for porn with titles like: “Wife gang banged while husband is at work.” Don’t know why?

DivineDaedra · 2022-09-03T17:37:39+00:00

I’m a woman and I watch porn. So does my husband. It’s really not that big of a deal, it’s just a fun way to get warmed up or take care of things yourself if your partner isn’t in the mood.

Some relationships consider porn cheating and if that works for them, cool. I wouldn’t be able to be in a relationship like that though.

Hungry-Nebula · 2022-09-03T18:52:06+00:00

Eating at a restaurant is the same as cheating.

I think people should avoid eating at restaurants in general because it's bad for the brain. It desensitizes you to normal food stimuli, and constantly visiting restaurants reduces hunger and energy levels for men.

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2022-09-03T14:39:39+00:00

Are you betraying your dog in some way when you watch cute puppy videos?

AstronautLoveShack · 2022-09-03T14:57:09+00:00

Watching porn is boring and distasteful to me, but I have never met a man who didn’t enjoy it. Unless it interferes with our bedroom activities, I ignore it. I don’t like televised sports either but I’m not trying to have those banned either.

calfshrug · 2022-09-03T14:49:48+00:00

Getting addicted to porn at 12 with no guidance, sexual and emotional repression in the household, and facing social and existential traumas daily set me up for a lifetime of misery

g0juice · 2022-09-03T15:26:13+00:00

Lol no

smallstarseeker · 2022-09-03T15:26:23+00:00

So by watching porn I am cheating.

Although I'm single 😂

MrCamel0 · 2022-09-03T19:04:33+00:00

If you're in love, you're constantly thinking of what that person is doing at that moment.

I think that's a hard disagree from me. That sounds like the initial period of a teenager's relationship where there's a bit of an obsessive infatuation (and insecurity) with the other person. That naturally goes away the longer you've been in a relationship -- it doesn't mean you don't love the other person, but that certainly isn't a defining characteristic.

In terms of porn itself, I don't have a strong opinion. It depends on the relationship and how they feel about it.

truthfullyVivid · 2022-09-03T14:56:37+00:00

Watching porn together isn't all that uncommon for couples, at least not anymore. I'd say watching porn is one of the more vanilla things people try when doing new things with a longtime committed romantic partner they want to keep things interesting with.

hangryswimmers · 2022-09-03T17:48:34+00:00

Sorted posts by controversial and this is near the top. What an absolute shit take.

Pilling_it · 2022-09-03T17:59:28+00:00

I think men should avoid porn in general because it's bad for the brain. It desensitizes you to normal sexual stimuli, and constantly masturbating reduces libido and energy levels for men. I don't think that's controversial though.

Is your point that porn is like cheating or that it fuck men's brain up ? Because that's two different topics.

Where I think you guys might disagree with me is that I would go one step farther into the extreme and say that masturbating to porn is akin to cheating if you already have a partner.

Well, that's a matter for the two people in the given relationship. Trying to police that would be immensely arrogant in my eyes.

I get that men are different. We have a penchant for more sexual release and more novel sexual experiences compared to women but that doesn't mean that our standards for relationships should drop. Save of all of that energy for her. If she's the right one, she wants it from you.

Go for gold, dude. As long as you don't tell people what to do.

What really brought this point home to me was this youtube video below. If you're in love, you're constantly thinking of what that person is doing at that moment. Your partner can be thinking warm thoughts of you, and meanwhile you're in your room touching yourself to videos of another woman. It feels disgusting and disrespectful when you think of it like that.

That's going to be fun when people are inevitably mismatched at a given time for any reason libido wise. Let people do what they want, man.

NidaleesMVP · 2022-09-03T18:26:24+00:00

I think men should avoid porn in general because it's bad for the brain. It desensitizes you to normal sexual stimuli, and constantly masturbating reduces libido and energy levels for men. I don't think that's controversial though.

Wrong. Several studies and peer-reviewed papers published by medical experts have demonstrated that your claim has been proven to be false.

Now, despite the fact that you didn't provide any substantiated evidence for your claim (which is a good enough reason to withhold/dismiss it.), and despite the fact that you can find numerous dishonest and poorly conducted studies (typically with a political/religious agenda) that claim to support your conclusion (like the Christian agenda of YourBrainOnPorn and etc.). But I will also provide several medical and scientific studies which prove that watching porn has many health benefits, even benefits that directly contradict the supposed negative effects that you talked about.

The following study is conducted by the University of California

"Viewing Sexual Stimuli Associated with Greater Sexual Responsiveness, Not Erectile Dysfunction

Abstract

Introduction

Time spent viewing visual sexual stimuli (VSS) has the potential to habituate the sexual response and generalize to the partner context.

Aim

The aim of this study was to examine whether the time spent viewing VSS is related to sexual responsiveness felt in the laboratory or with a sexual partner.

Methods

Nontreatment-seeking men (N = 280) reported their weekly average VSS viewing in hours. VSS hours were examined in relation to the sexual arousal experienced while viewing a standardized sexual film in the laboratory and erectile problems experienced with a sexual partner.

Main Outcome Measures

Self-reported sexual arousal in response to sexual films and erectile problems on the International Index of Erectile Function were the main outcome measures.

Results

More hours viewing VSS was related to stronger experienced sexual responses to VSS in the laboratory, was unrelated to erectile functioning with a partner, and was related to stronger desire for sex with a partner.

Conclusions

VSS use within the range of hours tested is unlikely to negatively impact sexual functioning, given that responses actually were stronger in those who viewed more VSS. Prause N and Pfaus J. Viewing sexual stimuli associated with greater sexual responsiveness, not erectile dysfunction. Sex Med 2015;3:90–98."

Source: Viewing Sexual Stimuli Associated with Greater Sexual Responsiveness, Not Erectile Dysfunction

Unlike physical sex, watching porn spreads no diseases, leads to zero pregnancies, and doesn’t engage with vicious judgments like slut-shaming (unless, you know, you’re into that). Plus, using porn to satisfy one’s sexual needs is safe, free-to-cheap, and convenient. And it can even be used as a sex aid for IRL sex, as many couples can attest.

“Porn can actually help foster emotional and sexual intimacy,” says psychologist David Schnarch, author of "Resurrecting Sex: Solving Sexual Problems and Revolutionizing Your Relationship." “A significant portion of our work in helping couples develop a deeper sexual connection is through erotic images. Erotica, as well as couples’ own masturbatory fantasies, can be useful tools for helping them develop as adults.”

A 2008 study by researchers studying hardcore porn’s effects on Danish men and women found that “respondents construed the viewing of hardcore pornography as beneficial to their sex lives, their attitudes towards sex, their perceptions and attitudes towards members of the opposite sex, toward life in general, and overall.”

The paper’s abstract ends with: “We conclude that the overall findings suggest that many young Danish adults believe that pornography has had primarily a positive effect on various aspects of their lives.”

Source: Self-Perceived Effects of Pornography Consumption

Looking at sexy pictures can help to decrease stress, according to research by the Carnegie Mellon University.

When your body gets stressed, it produces a hormone called cortisol that might disrupt the brain’s problem-solving abilities.

So in case you were wondering why you got a mind-blank everytime you panicked or felt really stressed during an important exam or interview, that’s why – it’s cortisol’s fault.

But the study found that men who looked at hot pictures of women performed 50 per cent better on a math portion of a stress test compared to guys who looked at non-sexual photos.

Researchers concluded therefore looking at the pictures reduced the stress response in the brain.

Source: The Effect of a Primary Sexual Reward Manipulation on Cortisol Responses to Psychosocial Stress in Men

Watching porn makes men lose interest in their partners, came the warnings after a study by Douglas Kenrick in 1989. The study was “hugely influentiaI” in psychology, according to Rhonda Balzarini, a PhD student at the University of Western Ontario. However, in November last year she carried out similar trials, using 10 times as many participants – 150 heterosexual females and 400 heterosexual males over three separate studies – and disputed its findings.

DisasterPeace7 · 2022-09-03T18:27:14+00:00

By definition it's not, nor do I think a man should get involved with a woman who would say that it is, that being said it is something that you should discuss beforehand and if it makes your significant other feel uncomfortable, you decide what to do with that information

ajb950 · 2022-09-03T18:35:58+00:00

“Bad for the brain” is subjective.

Who says I want to be hypersensitive to sexual stimuli?
Maybe I want my libido low to focus on other things. I don’t need the energy if I’m trying to relax

Asatmaya · 2022-09-03T14:42:16+00:00

I think men should avoid porn in general because it's bad for the brain. It desensitizes you to normal sexual stimuli, and constantly masturbating reduces libido and energy levels for men. I don't think that's controversial though.

That's pretty controversial.

I would go one step farther into the extreme and say that masturbating to porn is akin to cheating if you already have a partner.

So, in your mind, a relationship includes the right to control the biological functions of your partner?

I get that men are different. We have a penchant for more sexual release and more novel sexual experiences compared to women

Ha!

If you're in love, you're constantly thinking of what that person is doing at that moment.

No, that's obsession, which is unhealthy.

You have a truly twisted view of human interaction, my friend.

lovelythecove · 2022-09-03T15:21:19+00:00

My partner and I do not use porn in our relationship. We exclusively save our sexual energy for each other (and ourselves, without porn, when the other is truly uninterested, which is rare). ‘Shockingly’ our sex life has been so good since this change a few years back, that even when I had just given birth, I wanted to have sex with him. (We didn’t - obviously. I was healing from birth. But I can’t say there wasn’t a lot of oral until I was healed.) So many people’s dead bedrooms start from porn use, or they turn to porn when sex wanes, instead of reinvesting that energy into each other. And then it’s a cycle that repeats. Not enough sex - seek porn as a bandaid - have less sex… etc. until it’s too late to fully turn it around. Plus watching visual stimuli like that means you are disconnecting from your body and your sexual experience. We both think watching porn is such a weak thing to do. Imagine - looking at a video of someone else having sex, instead of investing your sexual energy into an actual living, breathing human who is doing the same for you. It sounds pathetic when you realize that.

This is obviously anecdotal. But we are both skeptical of the idea that female desire all but disappears post-baby. Sure, it does, if the father barely parents, the mother takes on all the childcare, most if not all cooking/housework, has no time to herself. Where will she ever get the energy for her libido? Libido is an excess energy thing. My partner is an equal parent; neither of us are overwhelmed with childcare, housework, or work; we both get individual time to relax; and we have a very active and enthusiastic sex life despite having a baby. So much so, in fact, we both want another baby asap - and our kid is only 11 months old.

When you invest that sexual energy into each other, everything is part of the dance. It’s all foreplay. And the sex and release is soooooooooo much better for it. But a lot of people don’t wanna hear about that when they could get off quick and easy watching porn….. Tbh they don’t know what they’re missing.

EulenWatcher · 2022-09-03T14:40:09+00:00

cheat (on somebody) (of somebody who is married or who has a regular sexual partner) to have a secret sexual relationship with somebody else

You don't have sexual relationship with someone, if you just jerk off on their image or video of them. If you're uncomfortable with your partner doing it, it's okay, we all have different boundaries, but it doesn't turn it into cheating.

Sex and masturbation are two different things. You don't always have enough energy to go the "full route" and sometimes you want not to connect and have passionate sex, but just get an orgasm here and there without doing much about it. Just like you don't always want to have a 3 course meal and just grab a snack. It's also not really realistic to expect your partner to "save of all of that energy" for you. Chances are high you also won't be able to actually use all of their energy either.

HazyMemory7 · 2022-09-03T15:13:35+00:00

If that's the case, then so are posting provocative pictures on social media for women.

Spoiler alert: neither is cheating. Though the latter does illustrate a lack of respect.

Extremiditty · 2022-09-03T15:32:50+00:00

I would not be able to be in a relationship where my partner tried to control my masturbation habits. Sure if it was causing issues in our own sex like then a conversation needs to be had, but I’ve never had a problem come up.

CliffordThRed · 2022-09-03T15:41:22+00:00

Masturbation has no effect on energy levels for men this is pseudoscience

wtknight · 2022-09-03T15:23:22+00:00

Save of all of that energy for her. If she's the right one, she wants it from you.

Not all couples have the same sex drive. Do you really think that they do?

Often men have more of a sex drive than women. In cases like this, I don't think that a man occasionally using porn is a big deal as long as he is still making love to his partner when she wants it. The problem becomes when a man uses porn so much that he can no longer perform or when a man's expectations in the bedroom change unreasonably because of its use.

2022-09-03T15:59:12+00:00

Oh sweet summer child

Holiday-Reach-8948 · 2022-09-03T18:43:57+00:00

Not cheating in my marriage but to each their own. Different people have different boundaries. It’s not caused any issues for us - been together 23 years. All things in moderation.

Smitten_Squire · 2022-09-03T18:55:42+00:00

Not even the same ballpark

CptKillsteal · 2022-09-03T15:03:54+00:00

"It desensitizes you to normal sexual stimuli"

That's the point. I don't want to be horny at work or any other place I can't do anything with it.

educateddrugdealer42 · 2022-09-03T15:46:35+00:00

Have you been told today already that you're a complete and utter idiot? I know you hear that a lot, but it's still just as true as the first thousand times you've heard it.

Saitama1993 · 2022-09-03T16:20:52+00:00

Breathing is cheating.

Some PPD woman

catniagara · 2022-09-03T16:33:43+00:00

I’d go one step further and say watching porn exploits women and children and causes undue suffering just so you can get off.

Most sex trade industries are run by bikers and other gangs that are heavily involved in other illegal acts including trafficking, with websites like sugardaddy.com and onlyfans being no different. Women in the sex trade are usually being exploited BY someone, and from a very young age, yet we promote the myth that these women and girls a. Choose this industry and b. Profit from it more than men.

Many films require female stars to show their faces while there is no such requirement for men, which has led to bullying and harassment of women and girls in the sex trade, even on the part of other women because they are being negatively physically compared to these women who, conversely, must subject themselves to constant risk of disfigurement, expensive and painful surgeries, exposure to toxins, and often street drug use in order to push through the physical pain of creating this “media”

To say nothing of the hypocrisy of making prostitution illegal unless you point a camera at it.

The themes of many porn films are abusive toward women and young men (“twinks”).

We have reached a point in society where we are starting to consider the safety and welfare of the people involved in creating media. But people still get away with giving little children uppers to get them to work and sexually exploiting female toddlers.

The first thing I see looking at a porn film is the fear and loathing on the woman’s face, followed by pain. Some of them try to mask it by talking, but it doesn’t really work. So yes it is very concerning that men would associate that expression with a woman who is enjoying sex. Because that isn’t what it looks like.

At the same time, picturing sexual situations can arouse people and enhance our own sexual experience. Watching Hentai, reading erotic or romance novels, anything like that, which doesn’t hurt anyone, can be a very healthy expression of sexuality.

Plenty of people were beating off to the Sears catalogue and creating racy artwork since about the dawn of time. People wrote dirty limericks on Roman columns and depicted sexy dancing in wall art.

People, especially artists have long been obsessed with the beauty of the nude form and the way our instincts compel us to it. I’m personally more turned on by the 5th Avenue statue of Atlas or the depictions of Eros and Psyche (and their story 🥰) than I am by the unimaginative, disgusting, and exploitive porn industry.

If someone is turned on by that stuff I’m not attracted to them. Mostly because I’m also not attracted to heavy makeup, terrifying surgery, female and child exploitation, and rape themes. I sympathize with the person in the piece of media who looks like me, and I definitely don’t want to picture my 15 year old schoolgirl self getting raped by some geriatric teacher who smells like science lab chemicals because I didn’t pass a test.

Literally how is that sexy to anyone? It’s especially terrifying when the dude watching this stuff has DAUGHTERS. Like can you imagine? Sending your kid to high school in her uniform after watching that?

🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

Nope. NOPE.

When porn reaches the level of art, they can talk to me about people needing this and how there’s no other options. But when there are cave paintings sexier than what you’re making? Leave it out.

Also also…whenever a guy says he wishes he could get fucked like a porn star all I can think is “You want to have sex that causes pain and suffering with a women half your age who is either bored or in pain and only suffering through this because you’re paying her? Why?

Unhappy-Secretary-21 · 2022-09-03T15:47:39+00:00

Maybe I want a lower libido

fluffysnooze · 2022-09-03T15:34:13+00:00

Oh no, you must have altitude sickness from sitting up on that high horse of yours. The shame you thrown down to us peasants has opened my eyes to see how horrible I have been. I spoke with my partner and we agree it’s best we watch porn together.

2022-09-03T15:38:26+00:00

… A good woman won’t give her man an excuse to watch porn because she’ll be taking care of his sexual needs…

TastyCucurbits · 2022-09-03T15:42:21+00:00

BAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oh wait... you're serious.

Ok, riddle me this: what's the difference between watching porn and imagining other women in your head?

alphasupremacy5555 · 2022-09-03T16:10:43+00:00

As long as it doesn't turn into an addiction there's nothing wrong with a man pleasuring himself to porn. Especially an extremely sexually frustrated and lonely man. Specifically incels. If those kinds of men virgins included, with high sexual appetites aren't getting any sexual attention from women they're attracted to, then it should be no surprise whatsoever that there masturbating to porn. I'll say that masturbating to porn is cheating if a man has a girlfriend or wife but just barely. If that's happening it's because either he's not with the right woman or she's a shitty wife or a shitty girlfriend. If a man has a girlfriend or is married, there should be no reason for him to need or want to jerk off to porn. His woman should be taking care of all of his sexual needs. That is the biggest incentive for a man to get in a serious relationship. If you take sex out of a relationship or marriage, 90% of men will not want to be interested in commitment anymore. I myself am an extremely sexually frustrated 28-year-old incel virgin who absolutely hates the idea of prostitution. Last year I did the No Nut November challenge and I was able to do the whole month barely and I intend to do it again this coming November

Dolphin_Moon · 2022-09-03T16:26:28+00:00

i think everyone has different boundaries for porn in a relationship. i personally don't care if my partner watches porn but i don't need to hear about it. i've been with a guy tho who never came with any woman he's been with (even while wearing no condom, including me) and it was bc he has death grip while jerking off. I appreciated his honesty about it, but I don't think I could be with someone long term who never got off during sex with their partner. He seemed to be working on it, so I gave him kudos but he has become incredibly desensitized. I think a lot of young men are encountering this problem too. My first college boyfriend had death grip, but he could reach orgasm with me, but I still felt like I could never really get him off.

Porn is only REAAALLLYYY bad/wrong when the guy would rather watch porn than have sex with the woman he likes. I think its possible to have an ok relationship with porn though, just takes work.

EstablishmentKooky50 · 2022-09-03T16:48:11+00:00

Yeah, thinking about it is cheating too, right?

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PMmeareasontolive · 2022-09-03T15:37:58+00:00

I agree that internet porn becoming so ubiquitous is probably bad. But I try to be stoic about it and fall on the "it's only a problem if you decide to make it one" side of the argument.

Anyway, you're one step away from thought policing. Why do people turn to porn? It's the serotonin. But I'll give you another reason: normality, including rigidly normal sex mores, doing the same things every time, isn't exciting to people over time. And I'm phrasing that very mildly and tactfully. I should be emphasizing it more.

I'd love to find a girlfriend who liked porn. (I realize in the irony of god laughing is that if that happens I'll get a woman who likes the kind of porn I don't like).

But apart from that, no, I don't see how it could be cheating since there is no connection, emotional or physical with the person in the porn. In fact the person is not really the focus; it's what is happening, the "action" that is the point, not any given person in the video.

That's why people keep seeking new content, with different people in it.

Porn is an idea.

januaryphilosopher · 2022-09-03T15:39:55+00:00

I don't agree with porn for various reasons, but it being cheating isn't one of them. You can't cheat with someone who isn't there and doesn't know you exist.

ohdiddly · 2022-09-03T16:15:19+00:00

If you're in love, you're constantly thinking of what that person is doing at that moment.... and meanwhile you're in your room touching yourself to videos of another woman. It feels disgusting and disrespectful when you think of it like that.

Is that actually truly how YOU feel? or is it a result of you feeling guilty because of what a partner might think of you?

Otherwise_Depth503 · 2022-09-03T16:20:38+00:00

Porn is cheating? We watch porn together ..

kronos55 · 2022-09-03T16:29:14+00:00

Post it on r/unpopularopinion to get votes, lol.

andrejusilva123 · 2022-09-03T16:41:55+00:00

It's not and most women can't satisfy man's sexual needs to the fullest and lose interest in sex while in LTR.

TheKarmicWoosh2 · 2022-09-03T16:51:44+00:00

Having sex with other people isn't even cheating if BOTH parties have agreed on those boundaries. If you want to argue that is cheating in and of itself then Idk what to tell you. Why would porn be cheating if both people are ok with it?

SaladPricesTooDamnHi · 2022-09-03T17:03:02+00:00

I’ve cheated on all my girlfriends then. RIP

ProfessorFelix0812 · 2022-09-03T17:23:49+00:00

Meh. Sometimes my partner isn’t in the mood, so I have to “handle it myself”.

loganmacoy · 2022-09-03T17:40:24+00:00

The woman that I know that believe that watching porn was cheating (it all was about controlling her partner) slept around with other men 🤦🤷

SgllsTaklnDux · 2022-09-03T17:50:34+00:00

Can we also get rid of objectification of anyone in any media? And all advertising?

Actually, let's just skip to getting rid of sin. That'd be cool.

Abstract_Knight · 2022-09-03T17:57:25+00:00

"Your partner can be thinking warm thoughts of you, and meanwhile you're in your room touching yourself"

Let's make it gender neutral, so you can understand that women are entitled to have sexual toys, and bc of that men can watch porn if an agreement is reached.

Sometimes the sexual life is just worse than the relationship by itself so, ppl just seek for alternatives, porn is not cheating as long as both parties agree on enjoying their sexual life outside of their intimacy.

You are also talking about how porn lowers libido and energy on men... don't you think that sometimes that's necessary on a relationship if his partner doesn't have the same libido?, some women buy sexual toys bc of their partners not being good at sex, so it should not be different on the opposite.

SantarpiosPizza · 2022-09-03T18:23:31+00:00

I agree men should avoid porn. However, I wouldn't consider it cheating.

lemoncurdmacaron · 2022-09-03T18:27:28+00:00

Oh absolutely and it is manwhore/promiscious behaviour.

edjohn88 · 2022-09-03T18:40:55+00:00

Red pill is about opening your eyes and eschewing that kind of blind bullshit romantic love. It’s probably the leading cause of suicide not some measure of healthy relationship.

ComboboxFromHell · 2022-09-03T20:00:45+00:00

Your partner can be thinking warm thoughts of you, and meanwhile you're in your room touching yourself to videos of another woman.

Winter is cold, warm thoughts are welcome, but if she is nowhere nearby, whos gone take care of the D?

Lets try to keep our life above the barbie-ken-neverending-love shit.

Porn is a problem if pp is tapped out when your SO needs it. Thats about it.

BlackGriffin_1 · 2022-09-03T20:02:07+00:00

Constantly masturbating leads to a lower libido in men

That sounds like a great deal to me don’t know what the issue is. Why are men obsessed with constantly being horny?

anonymousUser1SHIFT · 2022-09-03T20:06:02+00:00

Mods can we ban this topic?

It literally shows up once a week and just becomes a cesspool of people trying to talk with other people with overly large insecurities that refuse to listen to others.

Embarrassed_Cup2524 · 2022-09-03T20:06:29+00:00

Agreed!

anonymousUser1SHIFT · 2022-09-03T20:07:28+00:00

Il accept porn as being the same as cheating when you accept that a woman just looking at another man is the same as cheating.

Do you see how ridiculous you sound...

urbangoth · 2022-09-03T20:31:12+00:00

I don't consider porn cheating. Both my partner and I watch/use porn—often together, sometimes separate. We know it's nothing personal, and it's not like we desperately lust after the stars in the videos. It's more like arousal pre-game/warmup. It's a visual aid. Though I think we're a bit different in general. He's got toys and I have toys, sometimes we use them on each other and sometimes alone.

I do think people can develop porn addiction and that could cause issues in a relationship, but I wouldn't consider porn cheating. Talking to a webcam/OF girl? Sure, I'd consider that cheating in a way. But watching a free video on Pornhub? Nah. Even watching videos all day still isn't cheating imo, but I would certainly think there's a problem now.

Overall, it's up to the couple themselves to decide what they consider cheating.

xatnnylf · 2022-09-03T21:16:33+00:00

Sure and girls posting shit for attention is the same as cheating too. They gotta lock down the IG/tiktok/socials.

EasternToe3824 · 2022-09-03T22:21:38+00:00

Masturbation is the manifestation of my own sexuality. There is part of it that even my SO would never be privy to.

There is no „right one“. Women are not to put on a pedestal, not even sexually. My sexuality exists without a woman. That does not change when I am in a relationship. Nobody has a right to claim dominion over my sexuality except the lawgivers.

Your thinking bit is just disney fantasy. After the honeymoon phase normalcy sets in.

FancyCocktailOlive · 2022-09-03T22:40:48+00:00

Men aren’t different than women when it comes to sex. Men are just greedy and entitled.

Porn is definitely cheating. I don’t have sex anymore because I haven’t found a man who doesn’t watch porn in over 10 years and I don’t want to have sex with a porn user.

Porn makes me more misogynistic so they become more likely to rape, which is one reason why I don’t have sex anymore.

I also have a really high libido and would want sex everyday, maybe even more than that however every porn-watching man I’ve given a chance ends up rejecting my advances and prefers to masturbate to porn, also becomes emotionally distant and is less committed to the relationship than the non-porn users I’ve been with.

I’ve had a man cheat on me with a real woman too and I have to say that finding out my man was rejecting me for porn was worse than finding out he was cheating with a real live woman.

I eventually accepted I can’t compete with porn, I also accepted that my having a relationship with any man in this era would be impossible because they all watch porn and don’t care about the profound negative effect their porn watching has on their wives and girlfriends, so I made the decision nine years ago to become celibate unless a man who doesn’t watch porn—and can prove it—pursues me and is willing to let me snoop through all his electronic devices periodically for porn.

All the men who have pursued me in the past nine years have been porn-watchers and I know I’ll never find such a man because such a man is so rare it’s unlikely he and I would ever cross paths so for nine years I have satisfied my sexual urges using my own hands and sex toys.

It sucks but I’d rather be celibate than have sex with a man who watches porn and further, a man who can’t fathom how it’s cheating.

I was with a porn addict at one point and he was such a hypocrite. He refused to let me break up with him and he blackmailed me so I’d stay in the “relationship.” We never had sex, he just wanted to watch porn and have me cook and clean for him and pay his way.

Since it was my place, and I wasn’t sexually satisfied and didn’t want him there, I got a vibrator and he HATED it. I’d give him the opportunity to have sex with me first and when he inevitably turned me down I’d pull out my vibrator and masturbate.

I’d kick him out of bed, tell him to sleep on the sofa just so I could masturbate loudly to porn in the hopes he’d leave and go home.

He told me I was “disgusting” for having a vibrator and that he was “disgusted” when he could hear me watching porn and masturbating.

Then I reached a point where I no longer cared about the blackmailing so I started doing it when he was cooking breakfast for himself and getting ready for work. Then, I just started masturbating loudly to porn in front of him all the time, and if he left the room out of disgust, I’d follow him, and I’d follow him around my place naked with my vibrator or a dildo on my clit, porn playing on my phone and I’d yell “oh yeah, fuck me with that huge dick! Oh your dick is soooo much bigger than my boyfriend’s!”

And when he asked me to do things for him my response would be “No. Why don’t you ask a pornstar to do it for you?”

“Could you drive me to (insert destination)?” - “Ask a pornstar.”

“I’m in a lot of pain, can I have one of your Tylenol 3’s?” - “No, ask a porn star.”

“Can you get me a glass of water while you’re up?” - “No. Go ask Ashlynn with the tight virgin ass that’s just waiting to be violated.”

“Can I have a cigarette?” - “No, ask a pornstar.”

I had to keep this up for a month before he finally accepted I was dumping him.

And yes, I did call the police eventually and have him removed from my home and the police had to explain to him it was my right to not want to be in a relationship with him, and that men did not have a right to watch porn in relationships, that a woman could dump a man for that.

After the break-up.

“I’m at Dupont Station and I’m going to jump on the tracks.”

“Why are you telling me? Go tell a pornstar.”

This is the way ladies. Don’t do anything for a man who watches porn. Men who watch porn are worthless.

throw-away-518 · 2022-09-03T22:52:17+00:00

I 1000% agree with you, porn is cheating. It’s disgusting how normalized it has become. My ex is a porn addict and it destroyed my self worth. I will not date another man who watches porn. I know it will be hard to find a guy like that, but I won’t give up on it.

snappy2310 · 2022-09-03T22:53:17+00:00

What really brought this point home to me was this youtube video

Enough said...

Any rules you would like to apply to the women who enjoy porn?

Title	Watching porn is the same as cheating
Author	Raspskallion_Pancak3
Upvotes	0
Comments	223
Date	September 3, 2022 2:32 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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