"You don't need a relationship to be happy" is BS because happily married people of PPD aren't willing to rely on it with their own lives

cloudsongs_ · 2021-09-07T21:41:06+00:00

Spouses and partners can die. Breakups happen. If you base your happiness on being with someone, it will be a terriblly sad life no matter how long you're with the person.

botfiddler · 2021-09-07T23:14:22+00:00

I think you always have to take into account that getting into and maintaining a relationship comes with costs in time, stress, effort, mental occupation, need for compromise and adaption, need for maintaining status, e.g. a job beyond just paying the bills, maintaining other relationships (friends, family, colleagues), having conversations, ... So it depends on the person if that's worth it, or even doable, the more narrow fantasy is always great of course.

fakingandnotmakingit · 2021-09-07T21:44:02+00:00

I'm confused at the point of this OP

If we're defining happiness as "general satisfaction and contentedness" then no you don't need a relationship

If you're saying that a good healthy relationship makes both parties happier than if they were single then yes that is alis true.

The general rule is:

Good relationship > single> bad relationship

The fact that a good relationship makes you happier does not negate the fact that you don't need a relationship to be happy.

Assuming happiness as a gradient of 0 - 10. And that you need at least a 6 to be called "happy" then you can theoretically reach 6/10 without a relationship. Perhaps to many people a good relationship can bring them from 6 - > 9 or an 8 - >10.

The fact that a good relationship can make your life better (happiness scale 9) does not negate the fact that you can be "happy" (happiness scale 6-7) while being single

CatchPhraze · 2021-09-07T19:25:34+00:00

I would be very sad to lose my relationship and I am happier to have him in my life. That being said, I was happy before, and if a rock fell from outer space and killed him in a few years id likely learn to be happy again.

You can enjoy something, but unless you NEED it to survive there is a good chance happiness can be found with out it in alternative things. I liked raiding before I was in a relationship, I liked to bake, I loved to make soap and I liked horror movies, doing those things made me happy and where completely fine solo actives (-raiding).

girlindolor · 2021-09-07T23:05:58+00:00

I think people here and elsewhere who say "you don't need a relationship to be happy" need to understand that different things make different people happy and that what makes someone happy is completely subjective. Everyone's happiness is dependent on something, and whatever that is is out of their control, and no matter how personally silly you might find it, trying to tell someone that they don't need whatever they personally need to be happy is never going to work for, that need is not suddenly going away. As long as the need/desire is strong enough.

You wouldn't tell a professional athlete or passionate musician that "you don't need your sport or music to be happy" because you'd understand that that's a part of who they are, it's their passion and it's where their heart lies. Even if you couldn't care less about doing their passion yourself. It's very hard to get rid of what we want out of life, it's very possible that someone will never be able to be happy without a relationship, if that is what they want out of life. Especially when relationships are so romanticized these days, people feel like they are missing out on one if not the most fulfilling experience a human could have. Everyone wants to feel loved and safe, everyone wants to feel validated, especially if you can't love yourself. These are some of the reasons that might contribute to someone deeply desiring a romantic relationship. This is what they've been developed to need for happiness, even if you can't relate or emphasize. Whether it's right or wrong that someone needs a relationship to be happy is up for debate, but the need is there.

If you genuinely want to help people struggling to get a relationship and being unhappy, there are better ways to try to be for them.

But you can't act like you know them and their feelings better than they know themselves, and you can't decide for someone else what they need to be happy.

But this is just how i personally think about it

TotalTravesty · 2021-09-07T14:34:07+00:00

For those who have always been single, and have never known even one person in a good relationship: consider a thought experiment, putting aside all practicalities and ethics of the situation. Let's assume we've already resolved the practical and ethical issues, as if we had some god-like powers. What do you really think would happen if we took a large group of happily married people, and then randomly assigned them to one of two groups? The two groups are:
control group: do not change anything in their lives
experimental group: immediately make them single, and make them stay single for the rest of their life, including no dates--not even a first date with anyone--and no casual sex, even if they'd be open to that.
On average, which group is going to have happier lives?

You're confusing a dramatic change of life and a future of no romance ever for "being single." Yeah, if you take happily married people and suddenly kill off their partners (or otherwise "separate them") you're going to have some unhappy people. Also, taking away casual sex seems like an arbitrary stipulation. They saying is "you don't need a relationship," not "you don't need casual sex."

But more to the point, the saying means that dependence on a relationship (whether the one you're in or the one you hope to have one day) for personal happiness is unhealthy and that it's best to find fulfillment in the life you have, not the one that can be manipulated, shaped and ultimately set in flames by a romantic partner.

Is that easier said than done? Hell yes. Nobody would try to date if it were easy going without a partner. But the ability to live on your own without killing yourself is the best way to avoid falling into abusive relationships. Oddly enough, the day I started to accept that was when I suddenly started finding more romantic prospects. And I know other people who have had that same epiphany. But I digress.

Nobody's telling you to live like a monk, just to stop living for a romantic partner that doesn't even exist.

superlurkage · 2021-09-07T15:33:20+00:00

“You don’t need a relationship to be happy” has two meanings

For singles: your desperation is off putting, and your codependency is smothering and will ruin any relationship you do get into

For partnered: your relationship sucks, and we’re tired of hearing about it because you’re too afraid of being alone

Haunting-Ad-8603 · 2021-09-07T19:26:16+00:00

I tend to agree with you, but for different reasons. Most people have the same general emotional needs to feel fulfillment in life, and if one of those needs isn’t being met, it’s difficult to feel fulfilled (happy).

Look at Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Toward the base, the first 2 are physiological and safety needs, but after that the next one is “love and belongingness” which includes close intimate relationships. These are the most important of the emotional needs, and when not met people will often feel a lack of fulfillment. Why? Because we’re social animals with needs for love and intimacy.

Yokowi · 2021-09-08T01:22:27+00:00

Ehmm....suuuure,let me point out just a tiny wee lil detail...for married people to be single,they would need to leave their SO first. You know,go through the whole divorce and break up thing,that hurts,when you love someone,so no shit everyone is saying no thank you. 🙄

SaBahRub · 2021-09-07T14:19:32+00:00

No, you can’t set bad relationships aside because that is the whole point.

A bad relationship is worse than being alone, not the least because it prevents you from getting a good relationship. And one of the biggest reasons for staying in a bad relationship? “I don’t want to be alone”

YasuotheChosenOne · 2021-09-07T17:13:18+00:00

The “you don’t need a relationship to be happy” people are full of shit. As if the only relationships are the monogamous kind. Family, friends, coworkers, social media, FWB etc., these are all forms of relationships. Take any person and subject them to complete isolation from all other humans for an extended period of time and see if they still believe they can be happy without relationships.

TL;DR: people who are happy “alone” find fulfillment through their other, non-monogamous relationships.

ameleahj · 2021-09-07T19:33:17+00:00

You're forgetting the biggest part of it. I wouldn't be happy in a randomly assigned relationship. You can't just smash two people together, state they're in a relationship and expect them to become magically happy. They won't. Also, you don't need a romantic relationship to be happy, that is true. What you get from romantic relationships is what you can get from many other aspects in your life. You can be lonely in a relationship (in fact, many people are) you can be depressed, sexless, alone, insecure etc. It's not the romantic relationships that fix these things, in fact, romantic relationships actually highlight your downfalls and your toxic traits. Many many people are absolutely happier without a romantic partnership as the relationship takes a lot of work to manage. All good romantic partnerships take work. You don't just get two people together and the problems are fixed. They're not, the problems are highlighted. Right now, if you're insecure, jealous, depressed, lonely, emotionally unstable and the likes - a relationship won't make you happier. It will make you sicker and sadder. It's nice you've created this whole theory to explain away the very true statement of "you don't need a relationship to be happy" but you're forgetting one integral part - the human. Humans aren't just blobs of data to extrapolate from. They have thoughts feelings and actions you cannot accurately predict from looking at the numbers. You are incorrect and your opinion is clouded by your emotions - you're having difficulties seeing the truth because of the filter you're looking through. If you want a romantic relationship that isn't toxic and further damaging to you, you need to put in the work to get your mind healthy before you even think of finding a partner. Do the work - get the rewards. The grass is greener on the other side because they water their lawn and perform continuous maintenance instead of sitting by expecting it to happen.

Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 · 2021-09-08T00:15:14+00:00

To me this experiment is unrealistic especially for the setting of the USA , I don't understand why you would be single , unhappy, and unable to have sex?

Lots of grown ups choose to be single and still have sex . Not really understanding the premise of this experiment. You think only monogamous relationship's get sex ?

EleanorAbernathyPhD · 2021-09-07T15:07:16+00:00

A relationship should bring extra happiness to your life, not be your only source of happiness.

Someone thinking they need a partner to be happy is a major red flag for me. I dont want anyone depending on me to be ok with their life.

ImperadorPenedo · 2021-09-07T23:59:38+00:00

Well can’t say I’m happy being single.. but I’m fine. I know that one day I’ll find someone nice, I’m sure.

CommanderBobcat · 2021-09-08T00:29:34+00:00

Regardless of whether "You don't need a relationship to be happy" is true or not, it's more important to understand that the point of this phrase as a piece of advice is to placate ugly, undesirable men who can't get any sort of relationship due to those factors. Obviously those with a sex drive who can pursue the opposite sex do, so those who wish to but can't have to either deal with the anxiety of potentially never being good enough due to genetic factors (even after self-improvement), or cope with the reality that they'll never get what they want.

DerekMorganBAU · 2021-09-07T14:51:46+00:00

Lol is this a rant? 😂

If you can’t be happy alone how can you be happy with someone else? Once the honeymoon period is over you’re gonna fuck it up by being spineless codependent and neurotic.

StarchRunner · 2021-09-07T20:44:39+00:00

I’ve been in relationships, decent ones, I prefer to be single other than casual hookups. I’d say more but that’s what it boils down to.

tropicsGold · 2021-09-08T01:32:45+00:00

I don’t think there is anyone out here saying having no relationship is preferred to a good relationship. I think what they are saying is that it CAN still be a good life, and it may be preferable to a bad relationship. I have one friend a “confirmed bachelor” who has been happy to have no romantic relationships his whole life. I can think of several others who have had bad relationships that ended in misery and the only thing they got were decades of alimony and child support. One poor guy has almost given up on life after having his life destroyed by a vindictive ex. They would have been better off being bachelors.

2021-09-08T02:03:25+00:00

When we say that we really mean deal with it, because what else are you going to do? Shit, when I was a 16 year old girl I thought i was so weird I'd never get a boyfriend so I accepted it and stopped caring. I went from 16 to 21 OKAY with being alone because that's all I knew, I wasn't comparing myself to friends. Everyone deals with it until they get lucky. What do you want, women to fall from the sky? If you're so sure you can't be happy single then don't be happy. But it's no one else's problem.

Gilmoregirlin · 2021-09-08T02:37:31+00:00

You can be happy single most people are happier in a good healthy relationship. Some people will never be able to have a healthy happy relationship because of their own psychological issues and those people tend to be happier single.

But you can never be happy in a relationship if you are not first happy single and that’s the mistake a lot of people make and I see a lot of on this page. You can’t let a relationship or lack thereof define your happiness you have to learn to bf happy alone first.

Insidious-Sid · 2021-09-08T03:43:52+00:00

I'm not happy because I am single, per se...

But I am 100 TIMES less miserable!

HAHAHAHA.

martybernuz · 2021-09-08T05:31:59+00:00

Idk I think it’s unfair to you to just take away casual sex and dating. For example I know a handsome guy who could get all the girls he wants, but he only sticks to having casual sex with them instead of relationships because of how traumatic a past relationship of his was. So for him that’s happiness, just having sex without the trauma of being in another relationship

flamingoinghome · 2021-09-08T10:49:59+00:00

You're assuming that the only condition for happiness is having everything you want. It's not.

Hetherington9438 · 2021-09-08T17:52:03+00:00

For those who are single: Yes, I can use myself as an example. I'm single and happier than when I was in relationships. This is probably a big reason "why I'm still single".

Sometimes I get the yen, and celibacy is getting... Old... But it hasn't been enough to get me out looking again, since I doubt it would make me any happier.

Decent chance I'm a statistical anomaly though. I'm extremely introverted, not shy, just usually prefer spending time alone than with other people, whether romantic relationship or not.

So no, I don't need a relationship to be happy, but I don't think that's a one size fits all thing. And I think that's the problem with a lot of relationship advice: there is very little one size fits all.

lagavenger · 2021-09-07T17:55:20+00:00

You’re right, I wouldn’t leave my partner. But I don’t think that’s a fair question. That’s like saying “if you don’t need a dad to grow up and function fine, you’re okay with me killing yours, right?”

It’d be the same as asking anyone to empty out their bank account, sell all their possessions, and donate everything, because they say “money doesn’t buy happiness”.

IMO, it’s really not a fair question. Of course I wouldn’t break up with my wife to prove a point.

But to say I wasn’t happy before I met her isn’t true. I was happy. I left a relationship that I didn’t like and was voluntarily single for a year or two. I was happy to be single.

In fact, I credit that with being the single, best thing I could do to find a good partner. Learning to be happy with my own life meant I had no one to impress.

Women saw that and liked it. I don’t get it, but that’s how it worked for me. They mistook my carefree attitude as confidence.

DesperateTraffic3164 · 2021-09-07T23:26:39+00:00

So many complete fucking Reddit troglodytes in this thread arguing some mystical wee waa bullshit.

Of course relationships make you happy. Of course you need relationships to make you happy. If that wasn't the case, then the majority of people content with their lives wouldn't seek out relationships at all. If I'm happy, I don't need to stack happy experiences until I'm smiling like a jackass all the time. No one seeks out a relationship for 'extra' happiness. What the fuck?

Being in a relationship is literally the foundation of our entire existence as human beings. It is a compulsion. We were put on earth to fuck other people and make babies. If that option is off the table for someone they are going to be unhappy because every cell in your body is going to be screaming at you to stop failing at life.

januaryphilosopher · 2021-09-07T15:01:58+00:00

My guitar makes me happy - I prefer life with my guitar to life without, and if I was given the choice to get rid of it, I'd say no. While it's something I enjoy having, if I didn't have a guitar, I could still be happy. Losing it would be sad, and I'd probably get a new one because overall I enjoy having a guitar and think it's worth the money and effort of learning to play it, but it's not something that's needed for happiness. You can apply a similar logic to relationships.

SuperSupremeKai · 2021-09-07T15:48:54+00:00

Who said we need people to be happy?

You accuse people of moving the goal posts while doing the same exact thing.

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-09-07T16:06:49+00:00

A relationship is supposed to add extra benefit to your life, not be the sole purpose of your happiness, a single person that neeeeds a relationship is a red flag anyways

I say "good relationships" because I want to set aside dysfunctional, abusive, codependent, etc. relationships. When we say "relationship" we're only talking about a relationship that works.

Sounds like somebody's moving their own goal posts 🤣

People of PPD who are happy in your relationship: are you willing to end it today, and live the rest of your life single?

Nope, now if she did something that really fucked up a relationship, like cheating or mass homicide I'd be willing to kick her to the curb, but not just for the purpose of a BS experiment lol

NarniaFox · 2021-09-07T15:06:20+00:00

The thing is that you don't have to "look hard" to find happy single people, I know lots of them. Both from older and younger generations. Sure, some of them were married/in relationships, it's pretty rare to meet a person who has never dated anyone, but lots of them have been single for a long time and they don't seem to mind it. Moreover, a good share of them stays single deliberately, as they don't want to deal with dating anyone.

Plus, when people say that one doesn't need relationships to be happy, it doesn't mean that they want this person to stop trying. It means that you shouldn't stress yourself out and you should improve your life as much as you can. You have more chances to get into healthy relationship, when you're contented with yourself and your life. Not when you're miserable and desperately looking at least for someone.

houstongradengineer · 2021-09-07T16:52:32+00:00

Hey I disagree. I'm married and I think it's great, but if it's suddenly not great for me anymore (read: if I get cheated on or something like that) you can bet your ass I'm the first one in line to be celebrating singledom again. Life is beautiful. Single life, married life, it's all pretty great as long as you're not tethered to a wolf in sheep's clothing.

quiturbitchn · 2021-09-07T18:04:54+00:00

I think you’re missing the point here. There’s no reason to drop a perfectly healthy relationship for singleness as that would decrease happiness. But to say you can’t be perfectly happy single is false. Yes you could be more happy coupled but that’s not the point of the phrase.

Orange_Paisley · 2021-09-07T14:53:11+00:00

Nobody is going to dump their partners to satisfy your challenge. That said, I was single by choice for several years when I met Mr. Paisley. And I was happy being single - I took trips with my kid, went camping with friends, collected rescue animals to my heart’s content. If he was abducted by aliens tomorrow, I would go back to that. I would be sad to lose him of course, but I have no interest in replacing him. I’m done with dating.

wtknight · 2021-09-07T15:49:50+00:00

I think that telling single people that they can be happy without a relationship assumes that casual sex would still be available.

I think some women could be happy with no casual sex and only having good friends, although that’s difficult if most of their friends are married. I think that very few men can be happy without sex.

I definitely wouldn’t trade my marriage in for being single. I was a volcel for the entire latter part of my 20s, but deep down I still wanted to meet the right person. But I was extremely picky back then after having gone through a divorce and I was happier outside of a relationship rather than inside of one with somebody who wasn’t an ideal partner.

midwestufohunter · 2021-09-07T18:30:54+00:00

Married MEN are happier. Not married women.

Uglinessisreal · 2021-09-07T20:31:17+00:00

What people really mean when they say that is that the person they're saying it to is unlikely to find happiness is a relationship, so they are better off being as happy as they can while being single. That's how I interpret it anyway.

Independent-Eye-8945 · 2021-09-08T03:07:08+00:00

im 100% willing to be single forever, but i admit that its coming from a place of privilege, to whit: i have already experienced marriage, having kids, and basically the full gamut of what it means to blend your life with another person.

if i had been single my entire life i would probably feel a lot of anxiety and fear that i missed out on what makes life truly important, i would just always be wondering if i wasted my life.

so i get where you're coming from OP.

however, even admitting my bias i think the single life has a lot to recommend it. you don't have all the extra, constant worry/consideration for someone else. you can do whatever you want, when you want basically, no one is relying on you, no one will be effected by it, no one will be disappointed or upset... just whatever you want 24/7 (assuming you make enough money, but thats not too hard).

the idea of all that freedom is intoxicating to those of us carrying the burden of a family all the time so we tend to glamorize it. grass is always greener.

i guess what i'm getting at is that there is always a way to make the most of your situation and enjoy it. when people say "being single is good too" they're basically trying to transfer some of their mental privilege to forever alone types. like, knowing what i know i could fully enjoy it, and if forever alones shared the personal knowledge i have they could probably enjoy it more too. maybe life doesn't work that way idk, but it's worth a shot, it's really all we can do for people who are condemned to singledom for eternity

Alternative-Deer-144 · 2021-09-07T14:51:31+00:00

everyone knows typical humans need a pair bonded relationship to be happy. anyone who says otherwise is coping or lying

CFinCanada · 2021-09-07T15:50:41+00:00

This is pointless and dumb even as a thought experiment because you've deliberately excluded relationshits which a large percentage of relationships are, and why the majority of relationships in general fail.

Of course if you're going to focus on the happily coupled only you will find an unwillingness to be single.

We went through hell to get where we are.

It doesn't negate the fact that the relationship that is happy is the extreme minority of relationships, including for us and our own history, and it is fine or even preferable to be single than in a relationship that is destined to fail or contains some form of abuse whether physical or psychological, which is the overwhelming majority of relationships.

WilliamWyattD · 2021-09-07T17:52:23+00:00

Your argument isn't coherent. Needing a relationship to be happy, and being happier with a relationship are two different things.

The vast majority of people would be happier with the right relationship. But that doesn't mean that even these people cannot be happy without one.

Slipthe · 2021-09-07T14:22:11+00:00

I don't know if I've ever said that phrase, but what I assume people mean is that if getting a relationship is extremely difficult and ultimately heartbreaking for an individual, they would be better served prioritizing the other things they enjoy.

It's just putting all your eggs in one basket. And people do that all the time. Codependency is a thing.

flapperfemmefatale · 2021-09-07T16:11:40+00:00

If it were true, it would also apply to people in good relationships too.

It does. I don't need my partner to be happy. So I'm not sure what you're getting at...

AnnoKano · 2021-09-08T10:02:23+00:00

Happiness is a bird that may land on your perch while you attend to other things, but not if you stand there waiting to try and catch it.

If you get into the mentality that you need a relationship to be happy, you will pursue relationships for the sake of having relationships. That isn't going to work out my man. Aside from the fact nobody is interested in being your compromise, you will end up getting sick of them eventually. The fact you are in a relationship won't sustain you forever.

If however you are a person with shit going on in your life, people will be more interested in you. If people know what you are about and you share some common interests, then they will get to know you. You can go for a relationship from there.

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Luna320 · 2021-09-07T16:39:47+00:00

Depending on someone for your happiness is how you get taken advantage of and often end up staying in relationships you shouldn’t. Most people want a relationship yes, but you’ll be less likely to encounter or have a good relationship if you place all your happiness in another persons hands

LadyM2 · 2021-09-07T19:25:26+00:00

good relationships are an illusion anyway. they never last long. the ultimate reason for people to have relationships is not and never has been happiness, it is either lust (short term) or the human impulse to raise kids (long term), both of which are part of our genetic nature. nowadays people esp. women realize that relationships simply bring so much pain and trouble, for which the little amount of happiness coming along with them does not even justify. Women especially have realized that men and marriage are not reliable anyway. That is why so many people esp. women choose to be single.

g0juice · 2021-09-07T20:51:53+00:00

Are we talking about no relationship but still having sex? If that’s an option then yes I was happy outside of a relationship before the one I am in now.

GigaKarenEnergy · 2021-09-09T01:55:31+00:00

The only comment I’ve ever seen that was interesting was some guy commenting that the body starts creating cortisone if you don’t have a partner to push you to partner up. Evil af

Eat_Your_Paisley · 2021-09-09T11:35:04+00:00

If my wife of 17 years walked out on me today I’d be just as happy as I am right now. My happiness isn’t dependent on my spouse

Iceklimber · 2021-09-09T13:31:48+00:00

I want to set aside dysfunctional, abusive, codependent, etc. relationships.

When considering a relationship, one does not know ahead of time. So it would beb etter for us to include the possibility of these risks, especially 50% divorce chance for marriage.

Read science

In science, we have ye olde correlation vs. causation. Women pick the premium men to marry, not poor/obese/disabled/depressed. Yes the latter group is less happy, but the lack of relationship is not what caused their unhappiness.

The craziest scientific error is lumping in divorced men with the "single" group. Yes their happiness tanks but that is due to wealth transfer and not seeing their kids and betrayal of trust associated with the now-broken relationship.

Overall I recommend following your personal preference. If you have matured to the degree where you prefer giving over taking, then having someone in your life to provide for is fulfilling.

If you prefer your own time to party or resent the additional working hours required to maintain a multi-person household, stay away from long-term relationships.

SteveSan82 · 2021-09-07T22:56:21+00:00

Men can be happy without one. Women can't.

Do-ya-like-Baileys · 2021-09-08T05:56:58+00:00

Generally, you need to be relatively happy when you're single to be able to attract a partner, because its hard to attract someone if you are down and/or depressed. However, you are right, the vast majority of people would be happier in a loving relationship, so I think it is dumb to just tell people to be content with being single. Yes, make the best of being single, but it is not bad or illogical to wish for a relationship.

bordstol · 2021-09-08T13:02:55+00:00

I think the reason for the "be happy single" rhetoric is that most people know they will find another relationship. That's what happens to most people. It can be difficult to relate to people who have never been in a relationship and who are unsure if they are ever going to find love.

It's easy to tolerate hunger when you know you will have a meal soon.

Insidious-Sid · 2021-09-09T19:59:17+00:00

You don't need a relationship to be happy.

But you need a relationship to be in an unhappy relationship.

I'm not single, I'm "relationship free".

Title	"You don't need a relationship to be happy" is BS because happily married people of PPD aren't willing to rely on it with their own lives
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Date	September 7, 2021 2:16 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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But I am 100 TIMES less miserable!

HAHAHAHA.