Saw this on Facebook. What?

MrGrumpyzits · 2013-03-05T23:34:10+00:00

How many manual laborers are men verses women? time for more desk jobs for men!

toptrool · 2013-03-06T00:34:17+00:00

we have to raise the minimum wage because . . .

women.

HoundDogs · 2013-03-06T01:23:21+00:00

Amount of times I have gotten an apple when bobbing for apples: 1

Amount of times I have purchased shark products for "enhancement": 6,100

Isn't is time we saved the whales?

DavidByron · 2013-03-05T23:34:27+00:00

It seems like a combination of two typical feminist conspiracy theory factoids. Namely the frontman fallacy and the one that pretends women are the majority of the poorest (by ignoring all the men who really are the poorest).

StandsInRefuse · 2013-03-05T23:22:16+00:00

I've been sat here for five minutes trying to figure this one out. It's not going to happen is it?

kempff · 2013-03-06T00:11:50+00:00

"I'm on your side - but you're not!" - Milton Friedman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsIpQ7YguGE&t=3m00s

AnnArchist · 2013-03-06T01:01:44+00:00

lol logic doesn't work for the people who get their info from infographics.

casmuff · 2013-03-05T23:47:32+00:00

So there's less than 3 million adult minimum wage workers?

I'm not buying it.

Phuzzums · 2013-03-05T23:28:43+00:00

Not sure if it's relevant to the picture, but the fine print says "Adult minimum wage workers are individuals 20 and older who make the federal minimum wage or less."

TracyMorganFreeman · 2013-03-06T05:07:06+00:00

Their enormous non-sequitur aside with the CEOs and the minimum wage in general, they're also not accounting for the fact that women are more often part time workers, which is more commonly minimum wage work.

phukka · 2013-03-06T06:29:24+00:00

They're saying that the likelihood of a woman being a CEO is virtually non-existent in comparison to the likelihood of a woman being a minimum wage worker, so in the interest of women workers, the minimum wage should be raised. The CEO aspect is only showing the disparity in the percentage of workers at the top versus those at the bottom.

Really, it has no place at all other than a reminder that women are so oppressed that they can't be CEO's (yawn).

Instead of making minimum wage an issue about everyone, like it is, they're trying to suggest that women are the victims of some sort of discrimination in regard to wages since they make up a higher percentage of minimum wage jobs. It's just another way to play victim now that the wage myth was debunked.

jolly_mcfats · 2013-03-06T00:15:48+00:00

I'd think that evaluations of whether the minimum wage needed to be raised would have to do with things like... is it a living wage?

This poster reads like someone had a lot of money and was trying to figure out whether it would get to more women if they handed it to CEOs or minimum wage workers.

ExpendableOne · 2013-03-06T01:34:56+00:00

How many women receiving minimum wage are in the service industry receiving tips, compared to men? Out of those people who work in the service industry, which gender receives the highest income with tips?

ExiledSenpai · 2013-03-06T05:09:52+00:00

I'm confused, how will raising the minimum wage reduce the number of women making minimum wage? What is this image trying to tell me exactly?

friestogo · 2013-03-06T13:15:19+00:00

Chances? I didn't realize getting to be a CEO of a massive company was a game of chance.

NemosHero · 2013-03-06T02:25:30+00:00

I believe it is an attempt to pull the woman's vote into the minimum wage (why are you worried about ceo's, when we can be worried about jane c. everylady)

PerniciousOne · 2013-03-06T06:42:03+00:00

Could change the title of the left demographic, workplace fatalities, less than 4 women in 100.

Lawtonfogle · 2013-03-06T03:52:00+00:00

Anyone have the actual source for the figure?

2013-03-06T06:32:28+00:00

Raising minimum wage makes more CEO jobs for women? Is that it?

Kronik_NinjaLo · 2013-03-06T07:16:58+00:00

If you raise minimum wage, they will still make minimum wage. No sense at all.

12431 · 2013-03-06T09:44:48+00:00

29% of earth is land. 71% of earth is water. It's time to buy a boat.

einexile · 2013-03-06T12:52:51+00:00

You can take this as a pragmatic acceptance of the glass ceiling, and rallying of middle class women to stand by working class women. You are never going to run your company, but someday you might work at your grocery store.

Not sure if offensive or just depressing.

ttnorac · 2013-03-06T16:17:56+00:00

Theses stats always leave out 2 important facts:

How many are really moms with kids in school that want to get out of the house?
How many are fully supported housewives that get jobs to socialize?

HalfGingGhost · 2013-03-06T19:31:28+00:00

This graph only uses data including FEDERAL minimum wage, not state. 18 states have state minimum wages above that of federal, according to the US Dept of Labor. Those 18 states make up roughly 44% of our nation's population (about 139.8 million).
So all of the women residing in those states wouldn't be counted, since they make above Federal minimum wage by default.
Nothing like skewed statistics to make a point.

dpekkle · 2013-03-06T02:21:00+00:00

This is actually wicked insulting to women CEOs. It claims that they only got there by luck rather than by hard work and dedication to their careers.

tattooLand · 2013-03-06T06:26:30+00:00

As a woman, maybe these women should look for a real job and not just work part time? It's a mentality thing, they want the right to work and be paid, but they don't want to actually work. That's why most wind up working less in full time jobs or part time. :/

diskopony · 2013-03-06T07:25:28+00:00

Maybe I'm just tired right now but... What?

yokiatsu · 2013-03-06T13:04:51+00:00

This is by far one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

Hydris · 2013-03-06T16:38:55+00:00

Less than 1% of the U.S. Population.

McFeely_Smackup · 2013-03-06T16:59:03+00:00

What do the two panels have to do with each other?

What does the fact (if true) that more women work minimum wage jobs have to do with needing to raise it?

It sounds like someone started with a logical fallacy, Unstated Major Premise, that "women should earn more", and just assumed that was factual and moved from there.

MacGregz · 2013-03-06T03:24:15+00:00

At least they use a citation, although I really, really don't think they thought this through. A minimum wage is bad enough... But raising it will have adverse effects on all those people? Why would they want to raise it for ANY reason?

zialover10 · 2013-03-06T05:35:32+00:00

Yeah I saw something similar... Wtf?!Relatedly, oranges are round, so it's time to eat more apples. What the actual f*

Nny7229 · 2013-03-06T05:36:15+00:00

SenorSpicyBeans · 2013-03-06T07:35:06+00:00

The number of times posts in this subreddit have made my brain hurt is starting to get out of hand.

Feminism

wat r u doin

Feminism

stahp

Surfing_magic_carpet · 2013-03-06T09:05:49+00:00

These statistics are irrelevant. This would be like me saying "More than 50% of humans are women! RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE!"

LoveThemApples · 2013-03-06T10:06:44+00:00

Gender aside, I'm not sure what the point here is. If they raise min wage, they will still be min wage workers.

amylnites · 2013-03-06T10:54:25+00:00

So it's time to raise the minimum wage because lots of women earn it? I'm not sure I see the justification here. The minimum wage is either fair or unfair, regardless of gender.

roadhand · 2013-03-06T12:42:45+00:00

So ... if you compare your wait/secretary job to a CEO, of course you want more money.

As for being a CEO (broad range of strong skills, college degree, giving up much personal and family time) they are a very small portion of the workforce and close to the top in many fields.

I'm sure every kid at McD's thinks they do not get paid enough; education and hard work is the catalyst for more pay, not a program to pay you more because of your gender.

dperry3 · 2013-03-06T12:47:28+00:00

So, are they saying that if we increase the minimum wage that more women will become CEO's? I'm sorry. I'm just trying to figure out the logic used here...

EVOIXMR · 2013-03-06T12:59:03+00:00

Whats the ratio for stay at home do nothing wives compared to stay at home husbands?

TheMagicStik · 2013-03-06T14:10:15+00:00

Here are these stats I pulled out of my ass, give me money.

2013-03-06T15:24:25+00:00

I think my head's going to explode after that... it's like an equation without an equal sign. WHAT DOES IT MEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gremlina · 2013-03-06T15:25:04+00:00

Seriously? Is this really that difficult to understand?

It really has nothing to do with men, it has to do with people having the delusion that voting against their own interests in the hopes that "some day" they'll be part of the group they aspire to be in, is well, voting against their interests.

As a non-American, I am continually fascinated by the way the American poor will buy into policy that hurts them now in favour of some future "potential" state (wealthy) that they're highly unlikely to attain.

This just says "Hey! Women! You're much likelier to be working minimum wage than being the boss." Stop voting for tax cuts on the top 2%.

Whether or not you agree with that stance is a whole other thing that "is this a slam against men?"

Hessmix · 2013-03-06T15:30:14+00:00

I don't get it. Where's the logic? Because there are 64 women out of 100 people working at minimum wage, we should raise minimum wage? I don't get it.

BAXterBEDford · 2013-03-06T15:40:46+00:00

I don't even get their reasoning of connecting minimum wage to some women's issue. It's an issue for a huge segment of society, male or female. It's a horribly contrived argument they're making here.

gazork_chumble_spuzz · 2013-03-06T19:44:33+00:00

The logic behind this is...questionable. However, the US does have an extremely low minimum wage. $7.64 an hour is outrageous. You can't live on that. I don't think the gender of the minimum wage earner should matter - that's just too low. The Canadian and US dollars are about even now and our minimum wage is $10.25. Even that is tough to live on.

Hessmix · 2013-03-06T20:13:27+00:00

I did a "wut?" at first then I just lulzed hard.

youlleatitandlikeit · 2013-03-06T20:31:49+00:00

I think the argument isn't "More women than men earn minimum wage, therefore it should be raised." rather "More women than men earn minimum wage, therefore raising the minimum wage should be an issue of importance to women." Whether or not the CEO figure is meant to make a statement on sexism, it serves as a good statistical foil.

On its own, you're just saying "Some random percentage of women make very little money!". Instead you can say something like, "Very few women make a lot of money, most women make very little money! We should work on helping all these women who make very little money"

At least that's how I parsed this.

TheAlmightyProphet · 2013-03-07T02:35:58+00:00

So there are less than 2 million men making minimum wage? Makes perfect sense.

CycleAsAVehicle · 2013-03-07T10:52:11+00:00

How many workplace deaths are men?

(93% infographic)

Time to, errrm .......

Collective82 · 2013-03-06T03:28:55+00:00

First; minimum wage is NOT a living wage.

Second, this data is to broad of a spectrum to be of any real use, like the wage gap myth.

And third, why should you be paid more instead of you workin to better yourself to make more?

If more people worked hard at being good and doing well in life you would hear no complaints about minimum wage since that would just be a stepping stone to better jobs and money. Alas we are to lazy and want to be paid more for less as a WHOLE not just women.

Ragnar09 · 2013-03-06T10:05:44+00:00

Most women just cant handle being a CEO. Hard reality for feminists

SheriffBart42 · 2013-03-06T03:04:19+00:00

Give us more money because we don't want to earn it. You learn to speak feminist after a while.

SheriffBart42 · 2013-03-05T23:47:20+00:00

Raising minimum wage is never a bad idea, IMO.

Gillard did a similar thing - raised the pay for those in community sectors, which are female-dominated, and always undervalued, IME.

hflol · 2013-03-06T03:58:00+00:00

Man lifts 50 pounds in his job, earns $20/hr Woman lifts 25 pounds at the same exact job, earns $10/hr

You do half the work, you get half the pay.

Title	Saw this on Facebook. What?
Author	TanGuapoComoTu
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Comments	256
Date	March 5, 2013 11:08 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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