What will be the effects of the present dating market 10 years from now?

Marino4K · 2021-07-22T17:46:48+00:00

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redditthrowaway1478 · 2021-07-22T16:12:55+00:00

Herbivor men in Japan. Look it up.

I remember first hearing about it back in 2009...I laughed a little, then started to wonder...could the same thing happen here in the US. Laughed that one off too...

Commercial-Engineer3 · 2021-07-22T15:49:49+00:00

It is projected that 30-40% of women in their childbearing years will not have children

No by 2030 it's projected that 40-50% of women of childbearing age won't have children. So we're talking about Gen Z and Millennial women.

largepaycheckaddict · 2021-07-22T13:52:21+00:00

Clown worlds over, welcome to hell world.

This is going to cause massive social, cultural and infrastructure breakdown in first world nations in the next 50 years. US will look like a futuristic cargo cult.

Aldabruzzo · 2021-07-22T15:47:56+00:00

More polyamory. Less marriage. Marriage will be solely for the upper middle class on up.

More male sexlessness. More female prostitution lite (sugaring, OnlyFans, etc.)

PMmeareasontolive · 2021-07-22T16:11:26+00:00

In the west there are porn shops that have little video booths in the back. The whole function of them is for men to stop in on their way somewhere, masturbate in a coin-op video booth, and leave. I find that an extraordinary adaptation to the male sex drive, which is biological, but also psychological in that sex is used to sell everything and is an ideal and reward that so many things are based on. "If you jump through so many hoops, you earn sex" is the unspoken promise of society at large. "until you've jumped through enough hoops you can masturbate here" is the message of these little arcades.

I wonder if these will evolve in some way to accommodate the sexless.

Hy3w_mong0u5 · 2021-07-22T13:16:33+00:00

A future of young men working 12hr days, giving half of their wages to OnlyFans in the hope of seeing some pixellated flange. Working out daily and pumping themselves full of steroids in order to compete against each other for the attention of a 350 pounder on welfare with five kids.

We're already in a society that is gaslighting young men into finding Tess Holliday etc a paragon of beauty perfection while telling those same men to stay the fuck away from attempting to date at all if they're 'only' 5ft11 and/or don't have a physique like a shredded Marvel superhero/WWE wrestler or the money of a Central American drug lord. Ten years from now, it's only going to be worse.

The_Meep_Lord · 2021-07-22T12:41:19+00:00

Hard to say actually.

It really depends on what society does as a reaction to the growing male sexlessness.

If society continues to shame, mock and blame these men things could become incredibly unstable if 20-40 percent of the young male population keeps remaining sexless.

If society tries to help these men get sex/intimacy, things would be different. And I do not mean “just x bro” suggestions.

Jakes1967 · 2021-07-22T13:18:13+00:00

What will be the effects of the present dating market 10 years from now?

You already have a model, it's called Sweden.

EDIT: Swedish men are importing wives and the local feminist women are dying out. Don't fight them or argue and expose yourself to ridicule/cancel culture, simply replace them.

truthteller8 · 2021-07-22T13:29:24+00:00

I think the sexless males will create a new market for sex robots. If we can have billionaires go to space, then surely, someone will come up with realistic, moving sex dolls in 10 years. Maybe holograms or something, too.

For women, I can see more become single mothers whether due to casual sex or sperm banks. A lot of women still want kids despite being convinced of forever singledom.

The fall of the nuclear family is already happening. It's not going to change. We will probably end up somewhat like bonobos unless there's another great war.

We'll probably be like Japan or Denmark where they tell the people to go out and have sex so that the younger generation can create kids for the older generation to be taken care of.

I can't see the nuclear family ever going away because people will always put up with the other gender's shit if they want kids, at least for a little bit. Until people without the nuclear family (divorced parents count too as they often remarry) as the majority are growing up (maybe Gen Alpha). Wanting kids is a natural part of life. Though, there is a childfree movement going on I cannot see it overtaking in 10 years.

truthteller8 · 2021-07-22T16:12:31+00:00

Nothing revolutionary will come, at least from the perspective of males who struggle with romance and sex. Food and shelter is too important for the majority of men who fit this category to rock the boat too much in real life and risk their livelihoods.

What will happen:

Plastic surgery rates for men will continue to pump as men try to fit very narrow, specific standards most women have for dating partners.

Men who cannot afford such luxuries as plastic surgery will turn to alternative sources of satisfying their sexual urges, such as via "escorts," via OF, or via inanimate gfs like sex dolls or literal imaginary ones.

Men will start not to really care about society or protecting it for the long term future of their country or planet as a whole. No children = no horse in the race. Why care about what society will be like in the year 2100 or beyond? I'll be dead by then lol and there won't be one person I care about still alive then. Like I could give a shit.

No money hungry significant other or children means that men aren't that trapped into the rat race anymore. Also without having to keep up appearance to please a SO, men aren't really caring much about adhering to social norms. You really only care about that type of stuff if you want to look "normal" enough to pull pussy.

In summary, we're heading towards something like Japan or Korea.

Laytheblameonluck · 2021-07-22T13:42:57+00:00

With AI and all the data sitting around, there will be less privacy in the future.

A priest was found to be using Grindr, by statistical analysis of the mobile phone logs that mobile operators sold to advertising companies.

In the future, people will be able to do covert background checks on prospective dates.

bison5595 · 2021-07-22T16:06:22+00:00

Its not going to get any better. More and more men will fall out of the dating supply. Women will continue to compete for the top guys. The top guys will have more options to choose from. Marriage rates and birth rates will continue to drop. Fewer men will have more of the kids with more women. Ultimately, unless men improve themselves and/or women accept dating down and being the provider, this will be the landscape

DLifts777 · 2021-07-22T13:45:04+00:00

Suicide rates will go up, for both men and women. Single parenthood will become the norm. Women will aim to have babies in their prime with high value males and then they will either raise them on their own, rely on handouts from big daddy gov, or look for a desperate simp who will accept anything.

Gari_305 · 2021-07-22T13:48:59+00:00

Based on Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts, 45% of prime working age women (ages 25-44) will be single by 2030—the largest share in history—up from 41% in 2018.

Based on a Morgan Stanley report betting on the Sheeconomy back in 2019

Based on that there will be a lot of single women in the US, more over a good majority will be assed out due to how covid created the shecession and due to automation a good amount of jobs for women simply won't be there this sets the frame work in whichwomen will have to either go further into entrepreneurial arena or engage in sex work like what is going on in New York City.

Thus for standards based on the factors mentioned for women, they'll have to be re-evaluated and basically go down.

As for men it is basically based on their economic standings, should he be in the lower class ie 20-30k he'll have to either pay for sex or get his passport and consider living outside the US. Also doing this while also understanding that automation has made the job market more perilous than previous generations.

In this environment scenario expect more suicides to go up for both men and women

The Upper Class men making 78k (Note: the 78k is only for a house hold of one) and above should be doing ok

This is why you have shows like Kevin Samuels emphasizing the term "High Value Men"

Also this is why you see marriages prosper for men who are in the upperclass than the lower class more likely than not.

In short should the trends continue, I expect to see a bifurcation in the dating market where the men date outside the US who make under a certain threshold, while men who make more have their pick of the litter. As for women it's really dependent on how the covid pandemic plays out since it has decimated their job prospects also with the advent of the coming eviction moratorium being lifted you'll see more homeless women on the streets and thus their standards for men will go down alot but since men have been burned these past 10 years it'll be unlikelt that the men will save like they did generations past.

taapy234 · 2021-07-22T17:28:51+00:00

Incel crisis is currently ongoing ( starting from 2013,2014 to present day). Incel stands for involuntary celibate.

Inspin crisis will be next from 2023 to 2030+ once enough millennial women hit that menopause age.

Inspin stands for Involuntary Spinsterhood.

Enough have been said about incels. Just do a google search to read more about it.

Inspin crisis, in my humble opinion is already here. The emergence of FDS and pinkpill is one clue about this problem.

Our current disproportionately slanted online dating culture that disproportionately favors 80% of all women and top 20% of all men means 80% of women can easily live 10+ years of carefree, consequences free single life with access to high quality chads from 100 mile radius. This means, a huge portion of young men are being left out in the dating scene.

Remember... men have feelings too. Just because they stay stoic, and keep the emotions to themselves doesn't mean they are made of stone. We are only merely raised to keep up the stoic appearances to front with each other in the mainstream world, but with close friends and family, we all share about our true feelings with each other.

So as a result of being humiliated, rejected, and practically ignored by women their age for nearly all of their 20's, most men CLOCK OUT OF THE RELATIONSHIP MARKET ALTOGETHER.

Self esteem is not unlimited, ladies. You can't expect men to keep trying for years and expect him to face repeated rejection while you live that cock carousel lifestyle..

Because of this, a huge portion of men are COMPLETELY UNAVAILABLE for marriage and long term relationships with women by the time they hit 30's. Keep in mind, there's a fine 50:50 population balance of men and women at any given time across our country. Just imagine if 10% of men give up on relationships.

What happens to 10% of women who literally CAN'T find a suitable man for monogamous relationship/marriage? Will poly go mainstream? Are women willing to share men to compensate for this lack of male availability?

I have read a statistic that something like 49% of ALL WOMEN will be single by 2030. Just imagine that for a second. Nearly 5 out of 10 women will be single.

QimchiSauce · 2021-07-23T02:25:51+00:00

Crash of families and birth rates. A crisis will rise of what people think of the relationships between the sexes. This is not just western culture this is human culture. The invention of birth control and sexual liberation fucked the system that humanity had for a while. We honestly degraded back to our initial state of “mating”. We went from polygamy to monogamy to psuedo polygamy. This honestly destroys social stability because the main factors of society going forward are not present. Why should men work for endless hours and hard jobs? A factor was that they did it for community, religion, and family. These things are not really present so many are simply just drifting by. However this fucks up the market not just sexually but economically. Houses, apartments that would have been housed by couples and families are housed by single individuals. Fucking up prices. Scarcity increasing the price.

Another factor lack of relationships. It leads to more socially stupid and ignorant individuals. I.E more weirdos in society that didn’t gain a lot of experience socializing. Now I mean actual socializing, face to face and beyond the screen. This is just something lacking overall. Now people lack actual relationship experience and they have bad pictures of what it should be by dysfunctional boomer houses, movies, pop culture, and the internet. All of these things warp what relationships actually are.

We are now reaching the point of the death of the individual. We have focused so hard on the individual that we destroyed the group. Yet at the same time it has created new “groups” in order for one to have identity. What I mean is that people help identify and know themselves by what groups they consist of and we destroyed the traditional groups. Now new radical groups form in order for one to identify themselves. In order to be a more “special” individual. This however further breaks down groups so they are not cohesive and lack stability. Sadly diversity does not mean stability.

Over all the market will shift. Men who are at the top will enjoy the spoils. While other men clock out or break their pride in order to get a chance. Women will have a harsh awakening as much of the sexual liberation movement had positives and negatives. That hot girl summer and promiscuous past will haunt many of these girls. While many men will simply become neets. While more men simply lack any community to even go forward and just become sedentary. This is the modern day crisis where we destroyed much of the traditional pillars of human society but have not replaced them with something better.

CryptoCel · 2021-07-22T12:57:55+00:00

Even without a rise in FDS and MTGOW/Incel communities we can expect to see a big drop in birth rates due to deteriorating economic conditions for the middle and lower classes.

When you add in the impact of both men and women looking past each other for better alternatives thanks to social media and OLD, it’s likely one of two things will happen.

Revamped immigration laws to allow for organic replacement of the US labor force as native born US citizens have fewer and fewer children. This is probably the most likely route as Democrats seem to be slowly gaining voter base over time (raw numbers).
Republicans gain control, tighten up immigration but also take away access to birth control. Despite lack of marriages and stable two parent households, women who have sex with HVMs will produce children, unfortunately likely with poor economic mobility, but still intelligent enough to join the wage slave class.

MasterTeacher123 · 2021-07-22T12:46:36+00:00

Dating is like anything in life in the sense that there was never this golden age were the majority of people were successful at it. And no I don’t consider having a shitty partner success lol

throwaway46755312098 · 2021-07-22T13:29:04+00:00

I think the trend will be seeing is less long term relationships and mostly between attractive people and a general disillusion of men conscious of not being physically hot towards relationships with women at the "end of the line" metaphorically speaking.

Whether they will completely walk away or engage in short term dating when it happens to them, the bottom line is the AF/BB will eventually decrease to such an extent it will become insignificant.

I expect there will be some amount of post analysis on TV, online media and newspapers but no one will dare face the truth because it would mean admitting what was before was artificial and what is now is natural.

The main problem is that a decrease in motivation for most men will reduce their overall productivity in society. Women will need to collectively cover more of the burden of keeping everything running.

AquaChip · 2021-07-22T15:51:41+00:00

Some people will marry, some people won’t. Nothing drastic will change.

GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B · 2021-07-22T12:43:12+00:00

More men and women will be single and legislation in the name of equality will further increase economic redistribution from men to women. If relationships and marriage won't do it, it will be hidden through taxes so that everybody has to pitch in whether you partake in relations or not.

xFallacyx69 · 2021-07-22T13:17:24+00:00

Hopefully Gen Z will be the psycho “we don’t give a shit” generation that won’t thirst over chicks like us millennials did.

And hopefully the Gen Z chicks will avoid fuckboys like the millennial chicks say they want to, but don’t actually do. We shall see lol but I’m excited for the “no holds barred” if Gen Z takes it there.

Feisty-Saturn · 2021-07-22T12:36:12+00:00

It sounds like there will be less kids next generation.

Maybe we needed this, the world is so overcrowded these days.

Sid_Insidious · 2021-07-22T13:33:54+00:00

People will continue marrying and having children later. It’s your choice to frame that as being a beta bux or whatev.

uncertainkoala · 2021-07-22T20:47:33+00:00

Nah FDS doesn’t scorn men who don’t choose them, it’s more “scorn men who don’t treat their woman with respect and appreciation.” FDS literally preaches to move on from someone that doesn’t want you, because everyone deserves to be their partner’s #1.

If FDS gains mainstream traction, it will actually probably skew things back to a more traditional dating culture (no casual sex, man is the pursuer, etc) and will force a lot of men to step up in their personal habits (stop using porn and weed, go to the gym, go to therapy, focus on succeeding at work etc) if they want to get a woman. Frankly, FDS is almost verbatim what my conservative mom told me when I started dating so many years ago.

SaBahRub · 2021-07-22T17:00:13+00:00

People interacting with each other less and less, for everything. Why not, since humans kind of suck and XY corporation will be happy to cater to your needs, for a price?

ChangeUsernameA · 2021-07-22T17:27:52+00:00

I think once prostitution is legal , and the stigma for man paying for sex is removed.

Alot will change, and that would create a big shift in the dating Market

throwaway-1877 · 2021-07-22T20:38:31+00:00

Civil unrest.

LMM-GT02 · 2021-07-22T23:26:07+00:00

War and societal decay?

Angelique1o1 · 2021-07-22T23:34:17+00:00

Birth rate is only dropping in the Western world, so it’s predicted there will be a bigger push for immigration. The book 2030 explains it quite well.

Nice_Pass2393 · 2021-07-22T23:49:01+00:00

USA will keep getting more immigrants to replace plummetting population.

theoracleofosiris · 2021-07-23T01:11:19+00:00

There’s gonna be a really hard swing back to the right be it Islam, nationalists or tradcon Christian types. Most likely Islam just by virtue of demographics.

SyndicatePlus · 2021-07-22T13:18:01+00:00

Was thinking about breeding the most rare Cats & having a package deal with Cat Food, litter, etc.

Profit.

Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 · 2021-07-22T14:59:49+00:00

Think people will be around like minded people. Can't stop them . Those that wanna get married will ,those that wanna be into hobbies instead of relationships will ... I live in the Southern Northeast Region of the USA. A lotta my co workers are married, getting remarried and are pregnant etc . So the resemblance of traditionalism is still impactful in this area of the United States. Our small children do sports etc family unit still matters greatly . So intact family's are still important. Think alotta of this different takes on culture is who you allow to influence your mind and daily life .

theghettogirl · 2021-07-22T15:31:47+00:00

I’m aantinatalist personally and don’t want to deal with men any more than they do with me. Considering the state i see going on in the world now and possibly the future, I think it would be cruel to bring a child into this. My idea is to get rich enough to support either fostering or adopting children.

Ive dated men and the problems men have nowadays are no small matter they either have addictions to things like alcohol,porn, video games, weed or they expect me to do everything for them like their mothers.

I don’t find marriage appealing for that very reason, I’ve seen what traditional marriage is like and i can’t say that will make me happy. I would rather be by myself or supporting and loving children and animals, than a grown man who can’t be bothered to put the laundry away and wait for me to cook for him. I’ve redefined happiness for myself and set goals, it might not work for everyone but it works for me.

_pineapplylemon · 2021-07-22T15:48:23+00:00

Things will be just fine, as they are currently

jack_Me_hoffman · 2021-07-22T16:43:04+00:00

I see a myriad of things.

Destruction of nuclear family? Already happening, and it won't stop happening. Single parents will be the majority by 2040 I can guarantee it, and I don't need to see any other statistics to support that other than 40% of kids live in single parent households currently.

Marriage will only continue to decline just like birth rates will continue to decline. Sex is everywhere you look and women are more promiscuous at least openly than ever in history. Men won't marry promiscuous women more often than not. Both men and women are increasingly overweight/obese which is disgusting, unhealthy, and displaying lack of accountability.

I predict women will continue being childless and unmarried at record rates only to have the epiphany that their career is not their purpose in life at 35 as the biological clock is ticking its last tick. Trading kids for cats. As for men? Probably going to be even lazier, lacking accountability, purchasing record amounts of sex toys, simping even harder, and spending money on a dog instead of a woman for companionship.

The impact? We'll be feminized, weak, too focused on stupid identity-related bullshit to realize bad actors (Russia, China) which are far more masculine are going to militarily and economically kick our ass. China will surpass us in two or three years economically. The West is screwed unless father's man up and be traditional men who ONLY accept women who going to work with that. Too many women I went on dates with wanted me to be the romantic ideal while wanting to be whores on Instagram or be lazy.

We need men who are given the opportunity to be fathers who are proud to be leaders in their families. We need mothers who are willing to support those fathers. We need less single parent households. No more of this "grass is greener" "you go girl" "MGTOW" bullshit. People need accountability for their actions along with the capability to compromise. The West is too focused on the individual and NOT the unit. I know that if I cheat on my girlfriend, I'll be kicked to the curb without a question. If she cheats on me same thing. That's accountability.

We have a severe lack of men who are leaders who hold themselves and their women accountable. We have too many women being told they can't have it all and that leads to more women than men single over 40. It all starts with the parents. If you suck as a parent it will reflect in your children.

gimpgirl555 · 2021-07-22T12:46:27+00:00

In 10 years my generation will be in charge and it will be some form of trad for everyone.

satori12358 · 2021-07-22T15:36:53+00:00

I think the current trends you have addressed, are enabled by economic policies. Relationships are failing because people don’t personally experience a need for each other. Individualistically we can survive (with all the invisible support of a distributed, highly specialised and abstract system) But that is all a castle made of sand. If a first world nation regresses to a point where their welfare distribution does not enable an individual to survive on their own… then more traditional forms or cultural organisation will occur. That is to say families. Big families that cohabitate intergenerationaly, run family businesses, have lots of kids and marry early, support their family members. If a population crunch is not addressed by immigration then the nation will weaken until we default to relying on local support structures, ie family and local community. If we open borders to counteract low birth rates and economically weakened single parent families, then the people who are most numerous and capable of expansion, will come from cultures that prioritise; Big families that cohabitate intergenerationaly, run family businesses, have lots of kids and marry early, support their family members.

Naus1987 · 2021-07-22T21:36:55+00:00

I imagine eventually all the people “holding out for perfect” will eventually realize that perfect doesn’t happen, and things will start to balance out again.

Maybe I’m being optimistic, but I think eventually the illusion of perfection will fade and people will realize their choice is (actually) be alone or compromise. And not compromise vs perfection.

But if I’m being honest. It only sucks for the average person. Unicorns exist, but they already date other unicorns.

_Imperium-Aeternum_ · 2021-07-22T15:54:13+00:00

Incel Revolution! We will obtain what is ours! Another Taiping Rebellion is going to happen.

BlackPorcelainDoll · 2021-07-22T20:26:22+00:00

10 years is not that far. You won't see any extreme evolutionary changes in 10 years lmao.

Steyrox · 2021-07-22T21:50:21+00:00

I think about my own journey: middle class guy with feminist mom, super insecure about dating and intimacy, "bluepilled" and still basically virgin at mid thirties, now lives with sex doll and hates all the lies and b.s. I was fed. Votes for fascists to boot out feminists from public office. So if I multiply this with how many single men there are who are on the same track as women become more powerful and guys fall behind the curve in income and social status, it does not look great if you care about democracy. I think the majority of society will be fine though, but those of us who live outside society and don't have a future will create problems in the outskirts.

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Iron-Giant169 · 2021-07-22T17:08:37+00:00

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goneaway2thewind · 2021-07-22T17:44:56+00:00

Atomized relationships. Men and women will have compartmentalized micro relationships with all of humanity to meet needs instead of putting all the burden on one person.

It's the brave new world. Twitch streamers as virtual best friends, VR squads, hiking buddies, therapists, friends with benefits, flings. It will be how humans were naturally in the beginning but cybernetics will push it into overdrive. This is just a growing period of consciousness since society was indoctrinated into monogamy they are coming to terms with the new world order.

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g0juice · 2021-07-22T20:16:49+00:00

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bleb_ploleman · 2021-07-23T01:11:18+00:00

Some women don’t want children because of the role it forces women to have for the rest of their lives. Don’t assume it’s because they can’t get a partner. If men had to grow it, take a shit on your career, have it ruin their body while their husband complains how he’s no longer attracted to your boobs, and then play the motherly role for the rest of their lives, id bet some of you wouldn’t want kids either. I’d love to be a dad, i do not want to be a mother.

Squiddy-the-wise · 2021-07-23T01:18:55+00:00

Companies will have to change how they do business. Because men without kids to support aren’t gonna put up with this overtime bullshit.

The family unit did a good job at making sure men didnt have many options when it came to standing up to companies

TheGenericTheist · 2021-07-23T02:14:34+00:00

The industrial revolution and its consequences..

NockerJoe · 2021-07-23T02:18:23+00:00

Legalized prostitution and drugs and more things that keep people placated. Expect to see the market for sex work explode.

Pensions are going to be basically nonexistant and odds are funding for schools will get cut. So will funding for a lot of public stuff used by families.

2021-07-23T03:25:27+00:00

I think the trend of surging far-right populism is going to continue, as the far-right seems to be the only group with the collective intelligence to at least pretend to care about men.

I'd earnestly prefer it if it didn't, but that's what I see happening.

John_Oakman · 2021-07-23T21:27:41+00:00

Those who don't have children will be replaced by those who do. This wouldn't be an issue for the current mainstream social order (after all, previous times the children of the opposition turned sides to the more attractive ideology) if it weren't for the fact that they had become far too idealistic to be attractive to younger generations: it doesn't have leverage, and it can't offer materialistic payouts...

verdantsound · 2021-07-22T14:52:27+00:00

War?

superlurkage · 2021-07-22T15:47:37+00:00

The matrix

gkom1917 · 2021-07-22T21:25:12+00:00

Yeah, everyone likes a bit of an eschatology, otherwise disaster movies would make no box office. But in reality I don't think it will change that drastically.

manfrom-nantucket · 2021-07-22T22:32:53+00:00

Hopefully more men waking up and realizing what a blessing feminism has been for them and that they no longer have to be a wage slave.

AnActualPerson · 2021-07-22T23:55:56+00:00

People saying society will collapse are forgetting or ignoring that lots and lots of jobs are going to be automated in the same time frame. Truck drivers will be gone within a decade, for example.

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