Majority of TRP people want a family

shortcurrytruecel · 2022-05-15T21:36:27+00:00

Fr, I feel like there are some who just want to fuck everyone and those are usually the vocals ones and dating coaches and stuff. I feel like the average person trying to learn pickup has more modest goals and just wants a girlfriend or something

doshkhaleesi · 2022-05-15T19:33:20+00:00

That quote is about his child, not his wife. We have no idea how he feels about her but being that he is on that sub I can hazard a guess.

Also men can keep on with plates and/or cheating once they’ve had kids. There are RP men on here who love their kids but are pretty open about cheating on/not respecting the mothers of those kids. That’s not a great deal for the mothers.

Ppdstillmental · 2022-05-15T20:58:29+00:00

Also….most terpers hate single moms…..and also hate marriage. Go figure.

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goatismycopilot · 2022-05-15T22:28:22+00:00

The majority of TRP might want a " family" with a forever GF. Not marriage.

PirateDocBrown · 2022-05-15T21:15:26+00:00

I never had an anger phase.

I wanted a suitable wife, when I was 18 to 42. There simply weren't any.

cuckedalt · 2022-05-15T19:42:51+00:00

The argument, such as it is, is that modern times are incompatible with a family. Though not for the same reasons (unless you dig deep enough, in some instances), that's not even a particularly uncommon perspective, certainly not unique to TRP

heartheartdoki96 · 2022-05-15T19:26:46+00:00

We all understand that they are biological humans and have similar desires to well adjusted people.

The issue is they choose hatred and sexism. That's their choice. And I know by my stating that, a bunch of dudes will comment "it's not a choice, women pushed them there". Which is such bullshit. It's a choice. The fact that a man was lonely and he decided he'd rather listen to other angry men than get therapy and work on himself was his choice.

I feel bad for the teens sucked in to that group. I don't think they're to blame until they reach a certain age. But most of the teens are just brainwashed due to movies and shit telling them other teens are getting laid and falling in love and the teens who don't have that are weird.

I understand red pill men are pretty much all lonely and insecure. But they're choosing the wrong path to fix it. They're alienating almost all women just by associating with the name Red Pill, because by this point most women know the warning signs.red pill men don't even realize how angry and hateful they seem to everyone. They see the world as a conspiracy out to get them for having a dick.

Like women went through millenia of being servants and not having rights and having men have power over them, and no feminists have sat around and actually proposed shit like "let's make men slaves". Meanwhile red pill men literalky sit around and say shit like "women's rights are really what's destroying society"

Why would anybody have a fucking kid with a guy who thinks that way unless she's severely psycbotic?psychotic??

Hard_Corsair · 2022-05-15T23:59:09+00:00

Having kids is not the same as having a family.

There are plenty of people, irrespective of red/blue/purple pills, that would pull a Jango Fett and clone themselves if they could.

pm_me_hairy_nudes · 2022-05-16T07:53:02+00:00

That quote is about his sons. I don't doubt a RP dad (like my own dad) could value and treat his sons with empathy, love and understanding while viewing his baby mama as semiconscious sex furniture + robot maid. They ignore their daughters though, at least brainwash them with some internalized misogyny and self hatred.

Also RP dads shaft all the parenting and kid stuff onto their wives, it's easy to have fun parenting when you don't do jack shit.

WYenginerdWY · 2022-05-16T03:44:42+00:00

TRP is all about

denigrating women

A nice moment from one dude when his son was a toddler does not negate any of the things redpill is "accused" of being. I've straight up seen men in the main TRP forum talk about raising their sons one way and their daughters another - specifically to focus on being good, submissive, feminine housewives.

Saying TRP doesn't denigrate women is ignoring the numerous writings that comprise redpill theory on the sidebar etc. I mean "women are the oldest teenagers in the house"? Lol. "We're not misogynistic because women actually are all the things we say they are so we're just speaking the truth"?

Wanting a family doesn't mean you aren't a piece of shit, it just means you want to pass on your DNA like the majority of humans on the planet.

DreamsOfWishes · 2022-05-15T21:04:46+00:00

I've always understood that TRP was angry about not getting their family fantasy.

Thing is... their family fantasy is based on women being sims. Part of their anger is that women... have their own lives/desires/dreams, that they don't just magically have the same dreams as men.

But it is hatred of women to be angry about that towards women instead of the world.

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2022-05-15T19:24:59+00:00

probably can't base too much on upvotes if it's on this sub as we don't know what proportion subscribe to red pill or not.

sritaunicelular · 2022-05-16T16:24:39+00:00

I don't think it's uncommon to assume a lot of TRP men do want to have children or even a family. But just as they complain about women being picky and delusional, they are also looking for a family with a huge asterisk next to it:

they don't want to raise other men's children
they don't want to date single moms even when they don't have to see or raise said children
they want virgins or very low count women
they don't want anyone fat
they don't want anyone with fantasy hair or tattoos
they want someone usually very young, 18-24
they don't want any mental health issues, including the very general and common: depression and anxiety
they don't want opinionated feminists

*they don't want women with "rotten" personalities

And that's fair. I'm not saying it's wrong to have these standards, even if women feel insulted or resentful, just as men resent women for having their own long list of intense requirements. but it's inevitably going to make it a difficult search.

This is just an assumption, but I think a big part of the reason why a lot of women end up in subpar or even rushed and abusive relationships is because there is way more pressure to settle down, both culturally and biologically. Men end up in toxic relationships themselves out of boredom, loneliness or a perceived lack of suitable partners, but ultimately know they get to have way more time before the get stablished.

alexaxl · 2022-05-16T06:44:08+00:00

It’s not about either / or.

Truly it’s just about living with reality of how things are any place or time.

Choosing to pursue or go Mgtow or spin plates or find a reliable partner is all a matter of personal life’s twists and turns; some choice & some luck on how you play and how things play out.

StacksFifthAve · 2022-05-18T16:41:30+00:00

Trp is not about one specific end-goal pertaining to relationships.

It is not about being able to fuck all the bitches you want for as long as you want. It’s also not about securing a sexbot wife and making 10 beautiful children that’ll rule the world in your image after you’re gone.

Trp is about providing a man the tools and knowledge necessary to maximize his potential for success and the field he so chooses it to be. A man who is attractive to women on a physical level on average has his pick of the litter, or more of his pick than the average man, and has more opportunities to find his happiness with regards to relationships with women whether that be in casual situations or committed relationships. On average, a man who can more easily obtain sex with women at the woman’s demand will have much easier opportunities to find committed girlfriends.

Then, there’s also the ‘enjoy the decline’ flavor to the ideology. Again, that isn’t to persuade men into one sector of relationships with women one way or the other, it’s just a warning sign before you hop into the field. To quote a song from the 80’s, trp almost looks at a man and says ‘P-L-A-Y, if you play with me/it’s at your risk that I’ll set you free’.

Trp is simply a framework from which men pull to be more successful at what they deem as being successful to them, individually.

Psybur · 2022-05-16T06:38:52+00:00

TRP is just a lot of misplaced anger about not getting a tradwife.

Not realizing that society has moved beyond gender roles and the necessity for women to be tradwives to survive.

Visible_Seesaw4853 · 2022-05-15T19:26:03+00:00

Majority of TRP men want a family (with non promiscuous women.) And the number of non promiscuous women are decreasing.

Lezonidas · 2022-05-15T19:47:49+00:00

Of course, but they want a traditional family and that is going extint, and that's why a lot of them are frustrated.

75_Attack_Zerk · 2022-05-15T23:15:26+00:00

True redpill rejects pickup culture and promiscuity all together. Understanding women’s nature (basic redpill) is super useful for getting hookups but the true redpill is understanding that stable families is the bedrock of society. Most of the “redpill” guys in my friend group stopped having hookups all together and are now looking for a virtuous wife.

PlayfulLawyer · 2022-05-15T21:04:38+00:00

Of course they DO the issue is tying yourself up in it these days isn't as worth it to some

FineDevelopment00 · 2022-05-16T04:17:07+00:00

Merely wanting children doesn't make one a true family man. Spouses are family too. Plenty of RP guys will wax poetic about fatherhood but when it comes to the mother of their children... crickets. To them a family isn't about love; it's about feeding their own ego. For further elaboration on this, peruse the comments by u/WYenginerdWY, u/Rook_Cross, u/Hard_Corsair, u/goatismycopilot, u/DreamsOfWishes, and u/briiiana1122. u/LarryLooxmax also states a valid point about how RPers' bitterness wrecks them in the long term.

dijsd · 2022-05-15T19:23:56+00:00

Most men(there are exceptions) that put having children on the top of their list of life goals are losers. Billions of people have had kids, and that’s really on the top of your list? Sad.

Having kids should be more of a side journey, something you should do once you’ve truly accomplished your dreams, not a consolation prize meant to downplay how much you’ve truly failed in life.

HazyMemory7 · 2022-05-15T21:29:47+00:00

I agree, trp definitely teaches you to differentiate the typical modern day woman from a woman worth starting a family with.

And I'd also say that guys that really get the most out of trp are not "sexist, misogynstic" creeps like women on this subreddit would lead to you to believe. They are confident, ambitious, assertive and accept reality for what it is. I'm thankful that I found trp personally, I think it had a very positive impact on my life...I feel completely disconnected from the outcome of things now and that lets me say and do what feels natural without overthinking it.

Thus things like being ghosted, flaked on, or a girl not liking me when we meet don't even register as negative aspects of dating to me, I'm indifferent to it. And contrary to what women on here may assume from someone that is favorable towards trp, all of the women in my life would have nothing but positive things to say about me.

LarryLooxmax · 2022-05-15T22:39:16+00:00

Most TRP are bullshitting themselves. They are mad so they say "marriage, NEVER!" But deep, deeeeeeeeeep down inside they still want a woman to love, who loves them, to have kids with... most men really desire this. It's a fucking biological imperative. Otherwise dudes would have zero emotion when they see their kid born and not protect or help raise them.

mrmudkip11 · 2022-05-15T21:05:56+00:00

Sure they do, but they're so worried about being a cuck that they'd rather dehumanize a woman for having sex once than go to therapy

daddysgotanew · 2022-05-15T22:06:55+00:00

Honestly, I really don’t. I’m 30 and I still feel the same about it as I did when I was 16. As in, “ehhhh, don’t want.” It’s way too much commitment for me because #1, I really, really don’t like kids, #2 I get bored with individual women way too easily, and three- I am a true introvert in every sense of the word. I can’t imagine coming home from a 12 hour workday and then having the deal with 2 kids and a wife asking all kinds of questions and needing things done. My stress levels would be off the charts and it would literally make me miserable.

No, not every man wants a family. And it’s not because I have “trauma” or anything like that. I’m well adjusted, educated, and a hard worker. I grew up in a secure and stable household, and my parents have been married almost 40 years. It’s just not for me.

sublimemongrel · 2022-05-16T00:29:00+00:00

It’s irrelevant if TRP doesn’t preach this, which it does not. Who cares and why is this relevant?

MickIsBlue · 2022-05-15T19:42:19+00:00

Of course they do.

TP_Crisis_2020 · 2022-05-15T23:52:48+00:00

TRP is just like feminism.. only the extremist vocal minority gets heard, and everybody starts to generalize the movements around these extremists.

dietwindows · 2022-05-16T00:56:31+00:00

Most humans want a family, at least in an abstract sense. Whether or not they want everything that comes with a family is another question.

You want to smoke, yes, but do you want lung cancer?

2022-05-16T12:08:56+00:00

What is TRP?

lepengwin · 2022-05-16T15:39:54+00:00

Maybe those guys are only rp in the abstract. Why, I don't know. But trp itself seems geared towards causal, and not towards building families.

Beenixwinterberry · 2022-05-16T15:43:07+00:00

But TRP fundamentally misunderstands thinks and think men should be either “pussies” or assholes, not understanding women like strong but chivalrous men. If they continue trying to emulate the asshole because they notice it’s more effective than “the pussy” they will never succeed if aim is family. Women chose the asshole over the pussy if that's their best options because it indicates some protection skills and ability to chose a woman for who she is so him being with her is more special, they know the loser is only as loyal or virgin as his options (if he had the chance he would go all promiscious) and they can’t be sure he chose her over other women. But they want the sigma who falls in love or the strong man who is "good and moral with a soft heart" etc. The man with options who rejects other women and search for true love blabla.

creekcrystall · 2022-05-17T22:10:47+00:00

No, they do not and that’s okay. The less undesirable men that procreate, the better. Men who truthfully want families aren’t on Reddit, trying to spin plates and bashing feminists from morning to night. They’re at work or school, working towards this goal.

DeliciousPussyNectar · 2022-05-15T20:45:24+00:00

“Anger phase” has nothing to do with the red pill lol.

Ian_Campbell · 2022-05-16T02:15:15+00:00

The entire thing is fucked because what people here call "the red pill" is a specific degenerate group of losers like old Roosh stuff etc that doesn't even encompass 10% of the broader political "red pill" world or its general view on dating which is more like traditionalism and rising to the challenge, not "enjoying the decline".

DrinkItInMan11 · 2022-05-15T23:41:44+00:00

No thank you, I don't believe that's true. TRP is about getting laid, and finding different ways for men to do so, some men in TRP just need to level up their social skills, some men just need to get in the gym and get a better physique, the options are limitless.

Fuck having a family, what a waste of time when I could be making more money.

EviessVeralan · 2022-05-15T23:45:07+00:00

The reason this stereotype exists is because of how many prominent people in TRP advocate for non monogamy and/or cheating.

It's also possible to be a great mom/dad and be a terrible spouse.

LillthOfBabylon · 2022-05-16T11:08:19+00:00

There is a prejudice here that TRP is all about spinning plates, denigrating women and being angry but the truth is that majority of TRP men actually want family and kids especially when they exit the anger phase.

Most of them never leave the angry phase. They're like feminists.

For example this is the most upvoted comment on one of the recent TRP threads.

Anecdotal. I see way more dudes whining about child support and how they shouldn't be obligated to raise a kid they created. The common mindset I see is "If the baby mama don't give me pussy, I'm leaving. She wanted the kid, not me."

Title	Majority of TRP people want a family
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Date	May 15, 2022 7:14 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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