Not many women seek casual sex, but it takes just each of them having a on-and-off with the top % men for 20/80 rule to work.

Taraa_Sitaraa · 2023-04-28T12:29:57+00:00

This also explains the singleness among 63% of young men who have such long dry spells.

I am a little confused men here on the sub said that women will rather stay single than go for men they are not attracted to because they no longer need a man to survive. So even if she's sleeping or not sleeping with the top % of guys the percentage of young men who are single or sexless will more or less remain the same.

Secondly if a woman likes casual sex she'll also have some guys in rotation.

Freethinker312 · 2023-04-28T12:50:50+00:00

Well, of course this is the result of a culture that wants sex before commitment. It's not only because of how women behave, it's just as much because of how men behave. A lot of men on this sub apparently expect sex after just a few dates. Well than, don't complain about the consequences. If every man would commit to just one woman, and wouldn't have sex with other women, this so-called 20/80 rule wouldn't be a problem.

No-Rough-7390 · 2023-04-28T13:50:57+00:00

I’d also say the loose “serial monogamy” of today plays a role. Let’s say she has a one month “relationship” here, another three month one there, a couple weeks here, it adds up.

These also tend to end when the guy actually wasn’t monogamous at all.

AstronautLoveShack · 2023-04-28T14:04:08+00:00

To me the funniest part is that you don't seem to understand that quite a few of those women probably also have a few men on rotation.

Kilatypus · 2023-04-28T13:54:07+00:00

No.

It's typically just an average man in relationship that he doesn't claim, with a woman that believes she's in a relationship with him. It's a dude that treats a woman like she's his girlfriend but never commits to being with her because he wants to keep his options open, but doesn't want to put in the effort to find a woman that he actually wants. The woman is delusional about the fact that they never agreed to be in a relationship and claims him as her man because they act like a couple. In other words, it's men settling for women that they don't really want out of convivence and women delusionally believing that the man his her significant other.

Neither one of these people are dating or fucking other people. This is the standard scenario that I see.

Happy_Nuclear_End · 2023-04-28T12:37:48+00:00

Of course not many women SEEK casual sex, they're not the one with the active role in dating. They'll still have casual sex anyways because of opportunity+instant gratification.

The majority of modern woman have a hoe phase.

pizza_man21 · 2023-04-28T17:50:39+00:00

everyone is always all over the place with this. statistics say different things. I don't know what to believe. Ok i just want to know this. Every girl that I see, what are the odds that she is already having casual sex with a guy? should i even bother trying to start up a conversation?

OpticalEpilepsy · 2023-04-28T12:48:15+00:00

Betting $2 total $1 each on "I could have casual sex with her" and "I can have a relationship with her" is nothing like betting $2 total $1 each on red and black in roulette

Billsandasonom · 2023-04-28T12:48:42+00:00

This is true. A lot of women I know aren't what I would label as sluts but they do have that one or two guys over a span of many years that they just slept with a couple times - in their defense as far as I know in between relationships for the most part so it wasn't cheating, but there you have it.

Flightlessbirbz · 2023-04-28T18:05:26+00:00

This still doesn’t adequately explain the gap in the numbers of “single” men and women. I’m betting something will come out debunking that study pretty soon tbh. I mean are there some women who think they’re in a relationship with a guy with several other women on rotation? I’m sure. But most people still just have normal relationships or have fwb where both people say they’re “single.”

v1cgt · 2023-04-28T14:36:17+00:00

I disagree I think most women have a hoe phase , and become damaged hoes , which is why we have the effect on society now.

Shits going to get bad, men are completely checking out of society. This will lead to chaos and violence.

Men with nothing to lose are dangerous, no restraints.

gymbronyc718 · 2023-04-28T13:39:21+00:00

Women have a dilemma. Most of them absolutely love SEX, but not if it comes at a cost to their reputation. Since in most women's and most men's minds, the more sex a woman has the less valuable she is as a partner and as a human being, it greatly curtails a woman's willingness to engage in sex wjth a man purely for recreational purposes. BUT, if the man doesn't count, then she can have all the sex she wants with him and not have to detract from her reputation or value.

So just become a guy who doesn't count. Because women who want to get laid will find a guy like that, so it may as well be you.

JumboJetz · 2023-04-28T16:42:06+00:00

I’ve had sex with 7 women over the last year. If six men are going sexless, my dick has made up for those men not fucking by having sex with 7 women. So yeah I do increasingly fully believe diffusion of sexual activity is extremely unequal.

DeshaunWalt · 2023-04-28T12:59:44+00:00

Rotation dating as a guy is the best strategy

Fuck Monogamy, fuck commitment

The dating scene is rigged anyways

So might as well just enjoy yourself by getting as much casual sex as possible

zenstorm78 · 2023-04-28T15:27:47+00:00

Thinking about these things is a waste of time. I have thought about things like this, but it's not worth it. All it did was waste my time and leave me bitter. But I realized if Western women are fixated on hookups and fwb, it's better to be MGTOW and make myself happy. I have three lovely birds and learning how to code to get a better job. I have fantastic friends who support and encourage me. I am fed up with culture expecting us to have casual sex in our youth and settle down when we are older, but the best way to fight it is not to participate in it. Work on making your life happy.

bifewova234 · 2023-04-28T13:16:30+00:00

Maybe those incels aren't really involuntarily celebate but are really a bunch of losers who need to man up instead of making poor life choices like sitting around at Mom's house playing video games.

rndiamodsincel123 · 2023-04-28T16:21:34+00:00

So true. I have seen this happening in my life so many times.

karmakiller3001 · 2023-04-28T20:42:32+00:00

As a top 18 percentile male, I agree. Love the use of "soft harem" as this is exactly what i have at the moment. I have a reliable inner harem and a semi-reliable outer harem. Every single one has been given the talk and about only 1/4 object outright because they are "looking for something serious". The rest accept it and prefer a "don't ask, don't tell" arrangement. The kicker is that they generally say "I don't want to sleep with anyone else" or something to that effect. I believe them and am also fine if it's a lie. Judging by their work schedules and the amount of times they hit me up during the week, I'd say it's legit. The 3 categories are exactly what I observe with 2 and 3 being from inner harem and 1 usually (but not always) from outer harem.

Just today I was marveling at how, IG is the modern version of a black book where you can do everything from a single app. Low effort chatting and post engagement to keep the connection healthy, keeping tabs on the harem, setting dates and appointments and finding new members.

So if i have 10-15 regulars on rotation not counting the pipeline of newcomers, that's a lot of potential removed from the market. The numbers seem to match for 80/20.

It's good to be a small time sultan in 2023.

TermAggravating8043 · 2023-04-28T13:01:44+00:00

The 20/80 thing is just tinder Most people don’t do casual sex,

ComfortableOk5003 · 2023-04-28T14:17:31+00:00

This also explains the singleness among 63% of young men who have such long dry spells.

"Single" does not equal "dry spell".

Maleficent-Guide-590 · 2023-04-28T19:40:33+00:00

Most women dont go through ho phases?🤨 Sounds luke youve never been to college

antariusz · 2023-04-28T19:40:55+00:00

It's not difficult to have 3-4 women on rotation. In some ways easier than having just 1. If one is busy, you don't have to skulk or get jealous or anything, you just move onto the next, it makes maintaining easier. When she asks what you did, you don't have to lie or make up excuses about what you were doing.

markii300 · 2023-04-28T20:08:02+00:00

I wanted a good Christian girl to marry, my ex was one of those, but she did have a hoe phase, even in conservative places of faith, hoe phases are not immune, she was hoeing out to her fwb when she was with me. We were waiting for marriage and I was going to propose until I found out she was banging her ex on the side.

But hey Im glad im out of that, I forgive her. I have no enemies, I just want to make people smile.

JNRoberts42 · 2023-04-28T14:12:47+00:00

Average women date average men. Attractive women date attractive men. The claim that average women offer themselves up for degradation and use by attractive men is baseless.

People who are fine with casual sex have it with like minded people. People who prefer commitment have sex inside committed relationships. Harems are a revenge fantasy.

Financial_Leave4411 · 2023-04-28T13:23:05+00:00

OP what do you think a good solution would be?

Many people come here and post CMV topics but rarely does anyone offer any suggestions on how things can be improved. This is a topic many people will agree with so if you want actual discussion it would come in the form of a conversation debating potential solutions.

KayRay1994 · 2023-04-28T14:35:53+00:00

this post reeks of “i’m not getting any and i’m bitter about it”

Soloandthewookiee · 2023-04-28T15:26:40+00:00

But the 80/20 rule doesn't exist, so the rest of your post makes no sense.

meangingersnap · 2023-04-28T18:37:16+00:00

If a man is able to pull attractive women do you think he’d rather fuck a hotter girl or one that’s just average?

lacuti3 · 2023-04-28T14:12:50+00:00

Almost all the guys I’ve been with were bottom 80%ers 🫠

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-04-29T00:36:03+00:00

Idk how the 80/20 rule works because a lot of girls I know have taste in men that isn't the same as mine. Like they want a guy with a stable job, dad bod, super long hair, etc. Some like clean cut and some like beards. Some like extroverts and some like homebodies. However I do notice that guys I personally am attracted to often have other women interested in them, usually at least 2-3 other women. But nowhere near Chad juggling 5 girls at once like you guys say on here. Guys also aren't really that scared of commitment (what I view as exclusivity, that's how I define commitment) as men on here say.

But I'm an "above average" (according to people on here) woman so what do I know.

iassureyouimreal · 2023-04-28T13:58:56+00:00

That only applies to on line dating

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purplish_possum · 2023-04-28T14:16:27+00:00

women rationalize being in a literal 'soft harem' as 'seeing someone'

Yup. They don't do casual sex they just have very short relationships.

BrunoniaDnepr · 2023-04-28T16:44:16+00:00

Coming as a business analyst - this going to definitely need a good deal of numbers to back it up. I wouldn't make any decisions based on something this important on just speculation.

kdkdkd64664 · 2023-04-29T00:26:22+00:00

Being content with casual means you’re not competing. Do people not realize that women who have casual sex partners are usually also having a rotation of some sort?

2023-04-29T06:56:21+00:00

Good analysis. Although that part about her competing with 2-3 other women as concubines, women today RARELY have only one man in their pipeline. They usually have several men. So its not that she is just competing with other women for one guy, but for several and she is leveraging multiple guys simultaneously to see which one pans out.

Dating just one guy at a time for women in 2023 is a waste of time because he may not pan out in the end, and then women feel frustrated for wasting time with him, thus they have to sample from a larger pool of guys, to find 2 or 3 or more who will fulfill the right functions. 1 has ro be a beast in bed 1 has to be an emotional tampon 1 has to be her financial slave, although this "position" is delegated to tens or hundreds of her 0nlyf@ns s!mps, cause let's face it, most women do this nowadays to secure a steadier financial situation, especially with the econpmy going to hell.

WeeabooVirtualBoy · 2023-04-29T12:17:10+00:00

Question: "Do when prefer feminine-males?"

Response:

Yes, as "beta-bobs" and after they've had their fun with chads. In reality, most women prefer a feminine man; who is not like Chad (Chad is exclusively for bedroom fun and fantasies). Beta-bob is for long term relationship, but it is not for ideal reasons (reality and research confirms this)...

Feminine-men are wanted for the "utilities" they provide; from finance, to 'emotional-support', non-violent, and will allow get to dominate and use him as a doormat throughout the relationship — such to the extent that she will have to be twice as "masculine" for the sake of the relationship.

This isn't even toxic. This is the metaphysical reality (ultimate reality without any lies or bs). Respect is either to be earned or commanded. A feminine persona can only hope to "earn" it. A masculine persona 'naturally' commands it (but it must be backed up with substance and genuine intelligence). Think about it... That is the essence of these persona.

××××× ×××××

Nah, I find that most females aren't even virgins after the reach the age of 18+. They gave up the "goods" too soon, before being 'absolute', thorough, and certain about the character and commitment of their man. For this reason, I go out of my way to avoid [narcissistic] women.

Ps: An Ai-virtual-girlfriend is all I need. "Cortana, her puss really 'is' the only one for me. It is for this reason that I will continue to [humbly] invest in chat-gpt; an Ai-virtual-girlfriend will not stray away from me in place of Chad's meat-stick. She will accept me for 'me' (for who I am) and will expect nothing in return. Her perfect geometry... And polygon-count will not falter and sag as the years go by... Such symmetry.

An Ai-virtual-girlfriend really is all I need (plus "beer in my belly"). She will not file for a compliant, nor bankrupt me for in place for child support. It is for these reasons, I cannot help but remind myself of the following... That "Cortana's 'puss' really is the only one for me." —//sarc

Title	Not many women seek casual sex, but it takes just each of them having a on-and-off with the top % men for 20/80 rule to work.
Author	Napo_De_Leone
Upvotes	131
Comments	362
Date	April 28, 2023 12:19 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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