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[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 625 points626 points627 points 5 years ago (41 children) | Copy Link
All the men who complain about Jason Momoa’s ‘unattainable physique’ conveniently forget I’d 100% date Kai from Exo too.
They’re just lazy.
[–]Trinityblue93FDS Newbie327 points328 points329 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Jason treat his wife like a queen and Kai knows to respect women because of his momma and his sister.
[–]greenrosepdtlFDS Newbie159 points160 points161 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Did you see the pics of him in a tank top at an award show? Some people where scandalized but he gave his blazer jacket to his lady because she was cold and on brand of course he only had a tank top underneath i didnt know it was possible to love him even more.
[–]Trinityblue93FDS Newbie78 points79 points80 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Yes I did. He drinks his respect women juice everyday cause his mama taught him well.
[–]Hipster-AuroraFDS Newbie37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I don't know, I think he just outwardly looks hvm. He's said some side eye worthy stuff, like how on Game of Thrones his character's people the Dothraki got to rape and pillage like it was an awesome thing.
[–]Trinityblue93FDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is concerning
[–]skyerippaFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
He’s also a hunter so he literally murders animals for fun. Not HVM behaviour to me
[–]kwallioFDS Newbie42 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know if at least one person that hunts..for animal welfare reasons. Hunted meat lives wild up until the point at which is dies, is not subjected to factory farm methods and does not pay into the industrial agribusiness model. Just sayin.
[–]beautysubthrowwFDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
That's more of a personal preference than a true H/LVM thing. I don't have an issue with hunting as long as it's not a vulnerable species.
[–]FewButterscotch6FDS Newbie28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think that depends. My family hunts, but only in areas where it's necessary to keep the ecosystem balanced and donates most of the meat to soup kitchens. There are some parts of this country where people who rely on donated food would never get any fresh meat if it weren't for the annual influx brought in by hunters.
[–]Half_HaltFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. I'm an eco-conscious, beyond organic farm woman. Don't personally hunt but I'm generally for intelligent, judicious hunting of certain species. We humans have screwed up the ecosystem. Here in the Mid-Atlantic we need our mountain lions back to ease the overpopulation of deer & to scare away the coyote & foxes. Our game wardens are by & large awesome at ensuring hunters follow the rule. And everyone I know who hunts takes only what they can use or donate to the needy & uses every part of the animal.
[–]werker115FDS Newbie-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or for food maybe?
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have to look this up now 😇
[–]GourmayFDS Newbie126 points127 points128 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I filmed a commercial with him last year! Thank you for indulging me, I’ve never been able to brag about it because my friends didn’t know who he was haha. He was very handsome!
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 64 points65 points66 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OMG, I'm so jealous!!! That's awesome!
He really is very handsome and sexy in a way. I can watch his dance moves with the little wink thing he does for hours.
[–]kaitybubblyFDS Newbie37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow you are so lucky! I saw him perform during the SuperM concert earlier this year and he was even more attractive in person.
[–]flower-studentFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
omg you got to film with Kai??? Was there a casting for it? so lucky
[–]kaitybubblyFDS Newbie58 points59 points60 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh man two of my worlds are colliding, FDS and my love of Kpop! So cool to see an Exo member mentioned here. They really do take care of themselves so well.
[–]PoeticINFPFDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
They always whine when someone mentions Jason Momoa, lol.
IKR? I’ve had a celebrity crush on him since I first saw him in GOT, but all the women that I know irl say they don’t fancy him and all the men act butthurt if you so much as mention his name. So weird.
[–]MonstermagnetmaryeFDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I had men call these men gay. Because you know those attractive men!😂
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had men call these men gay
Jason Mamoa? Or Kai? I've read sour grapes white men ridiculing BTS because they "never heard those sissy ass gays on radio" while they make millions on every tour. I am in no way a fangirl, but they make millions girl. I wish I can make millions too.
[–]PoeticINFPFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The “pretty boys” lol. How is being good looking an insult? Lol men are funny
[–]FitncurlyFDS Apprentice22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He is one hot man though that Jason Mamoa 🤤 (some guy at the gym said my husband kinda looked like him when he was in Game of Thrones—-that was quite a compliment!)
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is!
[–]lizziebcaratFDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link
Are you implying that Kai from exo has a physique that is easily attainable? That man has abs for days. Possibly a bad comparison but point still made
Edit: it seems many disagree with me here but I guess maybe I'm just more sympathetic to the difficulties of trying to get in shape as I struggle myself with it. I'm not saying his physique is impossible, but probably as difficult to get as a flat stomach and thigh gap is for women.
[–]penelopekittyFDS STRATEGY COACH48 points49 points50 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm an older woman. When I was in my 20s almost all men in my age group were thin and many had six packs, but that was before video games and the fast food explosion. It's sad to see what young men look lie today.
[–]TERVENCORRUPTOR9000FDS Newbie22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very true. My dad and his peers were all super skinny. Now the guys around me look... rather pudgy. Crazy how fast it's changed.
[–]lacyvultureFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tragic. I look at my moms year book and every guy was in shape. In was NORMAL! You cant applaud someone that has a normal average healthy body in my opinion.
[–]Half_HaltFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I said in another thread how striking the contrast between the older & younger generation men is in my area. We have a big meth problem. 80-85% of young men here look like they're dead or dying. Yet, there's an astounding # of men in their late 70's on up still working physically demanding FT jobs like rock stars. They do the work of men 30-40 years younger with apparent ease.
[–]BorderszFDS Newbie56 points57 points58 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Slight tangent: Testerone is one helluva drug. You can scroll through r/loseit, r/CICO, or r/keto or whatever weight loss community and the men on there go through some insane/serious transformations by doing simple things like "oh I actually watch my portions and started walking more". Granted not everyone can get extremely defined/cut abs like Kai but is is very attainable for men IMO to get a body that has abs peeking through at least.
[–]maj0relleFDS Newbie27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right? I’ve been watching Biggest Loser for the first time this week and the men seem to chalk up huge losses pretty easily whilst the women work really hard and only manage a few lbs.
[–]lacyvultureFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I had abs last year pre covid and I am a female. It only took a year of working out and eating healthy. It is very attainable. They really dont have an excuse because they are born with more testosterone and less body fat. They just dont try and pickme's fuck them when they are fat anyways so why try?
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope I can get abs too, need more protein and strength-training, carbs make me hungry alllllll the damn time. But I will get there!
[–]Proud-PurposeFDS Apprentice33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He has a rare physique known as "average male who doesn't eat like shit and only does cardio sometimes"
[–]Half_HaltFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is much, much easier for men to get into & stay in shape than it is for women. They generally have more lean muscle mass. They're bigger & can eat more. And muscle burns calories. Plus, testosterone.
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men often complain that bodies like Henry Cavill and Jason Momoa are not attainable at all even if they go to the gym.
I think Kai looks hot and def puts work in, but it should be attainable for men who watch what they eat and work out. Compared to Jason he’s ‘skinny’.
[–]suncolorFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Aren’t thigh gaps a result of genetically wider hips though? Unless a woman is like really skinny, then her thighs don’t touch for sure but it won’t be in that triangle at the top of the thighs kinda way - it will likely just look like she’s unusually thin.
[–]lizziebcaratFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, a thigh gap generally is from a genetic predisposition, is wider hips. Doesnt stop it being a trend a few years back. The ease of having visible abs is also a genetic predisposition based on where your body stores fat. Both are generally accessible with diet (whether this is healthy or not) but not that common.
[–]nocturnalisFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Personally I’d prefer Lay or Sehun because I prefer their dancing, but whatever floats your boat.
[–]GrapeJuiceEnthusiastFDS Apprentice212 points213 points214 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I definitely find it very attractive when straight men care about having good hair, skin and a good sense of style.
[–]working-girl-FDS Newbie41 points42 points43 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I am on a dating app that’s has this thing where you can chat in groups and a man was saying that he thinks girls wouldn’t mind a guy dressing badly if he’s hot and I said that I do. He thinks girls would find excuses for hot guys dressing badly.
He took that as me saying I would rather be with an ugly guy who dresses well than a hot guy. And I was like hot guys can dress well too. They are not mutually exclusive and just because your frumpy ass can’t be bothered to dress well doesn’t mean I will go for ugly dudes. I’m not planning to dress nice (because I like it) and be going out with a dude that can’t be bothered to wear appropriate, cleaned and ironed clothes.
My dad has been married for over 30 years and he ALWAYS dresses nicely and cared about his appearance. Granted he doesn’t do skin care but he looks young for his age and he is always make if sure his style evolved properly and he grooms or asks from help from my mom if he feels like he needs to fix something.
[–]hvwthrowawayFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He thinks girls would find excuses for hot guys dressing badly.
why not just put in the bare minimum effort?! geez!
[–][deleted] 203 points204 points205 points 5 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link
Ikr. Why do so many 20 year olds look so much older? Like have u never heard about a cleanser. smfh
[–]WildTendernessFDS Newbie99 points100 points101 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Omg, right?? Sometimes when I'm looking through Hinge I'm absolutely baffled by the men that pop up. There's no way they aren't lying about their age 😭
[–]FitncurlyFDS Apprentice60 points61 points62 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Either lying or they age like milk in the sun—lumpy and sour 🤢
[–]PoeticINFPFDS Newbie28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm baffled when they're younger than me but they look much older. I keep chanting "exfoliation" when I'm on there.
[–]WildTendernessFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They need a whole lifestyle change, I don't think exfoliation will save them 😂
[–]flower-studentFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I chant "old", "ugly", "fat", and "balding", depending on which is the biggest reason for swiping left.
[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've been doing through the same on tinder. I definitely think some men are lying on their age to catch younger women, unless it's normal for a 30 something year old to look 45.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They lie on OLD all the time
[–]PoeticINFPFDS Newbie15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Try a 20-something year old who looks 40 or at least late 30s
[–]flower-studentFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I sure hope they're lying because I'm not sure if half of your hair turning white is supposed to be common in your early thirties.
[–]likethekeyonthekeybdFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My brother is 3 years younger than me and has some deep ass winkles on his forehead. He often is working outside, especially in the summer and refuses to wear sunscreen because "it's toxic." I on the other hand have no wrinkles. Yes, I wear sunscreen, hats, and have a skincare routine, but my sister who also works outside and is the oldest only has fine lines and she does the bare minimum of sunscreen application/hat wearing. It makes a huge difference to care for your skin.
So yeah, my bro looks like he's 30 and he isn't even 25.
[–]StrainingMyNeuronsFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cancer is a bit more “toxic” though.
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Kindly take a look at Rule 7. Please don't make posts/comments with identifying information. That reaction is exactly what we don't want here.
[–]FabulousGrandFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for the reminder I have learned my lesson! I've spoken to the guy and he found it funny but I won't be doing it again.
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[–]eveninghopeFDS Apprentice129 points130 points131 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I guess I'll wash my ass but nO hOmO.
[–]PinkFurLookinLikeCamFDS Newbie46 points47 points48 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Omg me and male friend talked about this, and he said it’s highly common for men to literally not digitally clean their ass and instead just let the water run down their butt🤢🤮
[–]soundslikeautumnFDS Newbie53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I've actually heard this type of nonsense A LOT from men. They think it will somehow summon a gay demon from the shower drain if they wash their assholes. I (briefly) dated two men who had NEVER touched their anuses besides wiping because it felt "too gay" to clean themselves properly. I've read things like "Does washing my asshole in the shower mean I'm gay?" I'm not kidding.
[–]xx_powerFDS Newbie21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"Fellas, is it gay to not have a shit caked asshole???"
Also male logic in action: obsessively rubbing a cock bloody while watching a man you don't know have sex -> totally not gay (or sad or pathetic or cucked as fuck)
Cleaning your body and maintaining good health -> ZOMFG SO GAY
[–]soundslikeautumnFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
LMFAO!!! Completely true! They'll watch another man (or men) ejaculate all over a woman's face and that's fine, but clean your body properly? Nope! Smh
[–]xx_powerFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Off topic, but I'm always happy when I get a comment notification from FDS! Was a bit unnerved when they locked the sub but the mad scrote tears at it being right back were delicious 💅🍸
[–]hvwthrowawayFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
my thoughts exactly!!! they also have no problem comparing their dick sizes with their bros and would jump into having an orgy, if given the chance.
i want a man who is secure in his sexuality and has no issue with homosexuality, even if these scrotes claim they are not homophobes - they are, they spend so much energy projecting gayness into the most random things!
is there a way to vet a man to know he's not a homophobe/cleans his ass?!
[–]PinkFurLookinLikeCamFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is genuinely disgusting and NVM STILL out here acting like they’re entitled to high standards whilst not washing their ass 🥴
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
and he said it’s highly common for men to literally not digitally clean their ass and instead just let the water run down their butt🤢🤮
How does he know this? Do all men openly talk to one another about not washing their ass properly?
[–]PinkFurLookinLikeCamFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He’s gay so I just assumed it had something to do with dating experience and stuff- But hell, straight men will cop to the weirdest stuff to other men so who knows lol
[–]seraphinelysionFDS Apprentice19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you know my ex?!
[–]StrainingMyNeuronsFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think you might have meant “plaque”, but plague is actually way, way better suited to some of these men’s appearance! 🤣🤣🤣 I love it!
[–]eveninghopeFDS Apprentice135 points136 points137 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly just some fucking effort. M O I S T U R I Z E.
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple141 points142 points143 points 5 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
To be fair those neckbeards thinks everything is gay. Washing your ass = gay. Wiping your ass = gay. Eating a salad, drinking water, going to Starbucks, all = gay gay gay. I think all these dumbass homophobes are honestly day dreaming about dick or something, because they are so obsessed about "not being gay". Gross
[–]EquipoisonousFDS Newbie69 points70 points71 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Going down on a woman/ caring enough to focus solely on her pleasure = gay!
You have to SMASH/DESTROY/POUND for it to be MANLY.
Such brilliant logic claiming a type of straight sex is too gay.
[–]gimmeyourbadinageFDS Newbie34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
“Fellas, is it... u know.. gay to fuck her gently?”
[–]Lemon_bars_addictionFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I legit just got flashbacks to an ex-guy friend telling me he would never go down on a woman because it's gay. My brain cells almost all died that day
[–]StrainingMyNeuronsFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
WTF 🤣🤣🤣 That’s exactly what gay ISN’T.
[–]FitncurlyFDS Apprentice55 points56 points57 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Also all the porn—they sit around jerking off to dicks on screen. Even in straight porn these dudes are being cucks sitting around jerking it to another man having sex with a woman. Dick on their brains because dick on their screens, while Pavlov-petting their peens, sad 😆
[–]Proud-PurposeFDS Apprentice36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Fun fact: it's probable that male attraction to porn is rooted in physical response of arousal at the sight of cuckoldry. Men talk about how all women flick the bean to rape while conveniently forgetting that their excitement by the idea of infidelity is pretty well studied.
[–]FitncurlyFDS Apprentice7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yup, it shaped the tips of their penises! Lots of sperm competition back to back meant that they had to suction out the last guy’s sperm to hope theirs would be “first”. A whole history of cuckoldry/lady sharing.
[–]Proud-PurposeFDS Apprentice14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men are also more likely to initiate sex with their women if other men find them attractive.
[–]FitncurlyFDS Apprentice6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Makes sense with the whole “mate-guarding” thing.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Lol, I just expressed the same sentiment before getting to your comment. Isn't that bizarre? They must secretly enjoy looking at hard dicks.
[–]FitncurlyFDS Apprentice6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yup, but they get so mad if you point this out. But apparently it’s women who are all “bi-curious” and not them 🙄😆
[–]Proud-PurposeFDS Apprentice0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Male sexuality is completely susceptible to conditioning and warping by supernatural stimuli in every study on the subject. Paraphilias are a uniquely male phenomenon. With women, the evidence is either absent or inconclusive. It turns out that when your sexual strategy is opportunistic and indiscriminate insemination, you're more likely to develop oddly specific preferences for scenarios associated with ejaculation.
Their unprompted screeching about all women being bisexual is, once again, a big load of shame induced projection. There are no straight men in prison.
[–]2340000Ruthless Strategist0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My goodness!😂... Please link these studies! You're brilliant
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
‘Washing your ass = gay always gets me’ Lol 😂
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jupp. You know nothing is as manly as stinking of shit and leaving shit stains on the bed sheets 🤭🤢
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's funny that "Washing your ass = gay" but "playing with a/your dick =/= gay" to those same men.
[–]MerryprankstressFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Everything is an obstacle coarse in avoiding the gay thoughts for them
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
😂😂
[–]MerryprankstressFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Oh shit! somethink pink! Gotta parkour away now"
[–]shmarharFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They "doth protest too much" and all that
[–]waddameloneFDS Newbie123 points124 points125 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“You just turned 33 on your 18th birthday” killed me. But it’s nothing but the truth💀
[–]BorderszFDS Newbie53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
This is SO TRUE. All my friends (who are women) tease me when I like guys w/sense of style, care about their skin/hair because they always think "they're in the closet". And I'm like why is it socially programmed in us to like men who don't gaf about their appearance and that if they do they HAVE to be gay, tf?
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah smell, smelling like lemon and mint is gay, but smelling like rotten trash in the dumpster is "manly". I can't with these people.
[–]StrainingMyNeuronsFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do think they are partially right though, as unfortunately straight men typically like to look and smell like a dumpster.
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice44 points45 points46 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
In my country, men do (thank God) take care of their hygiene and put on clean clothes everyday, but the most entitled men often have obese gut bigger than a pregnant lady. And it looks really bad because men here have smaller frame and shorter than western man. I was fat my entire childhood until early 20s, so I know the reality of having such a body - it bloody sucks 24/7. And I don't even dare to flirt with handsome men because I just feel... nah.
But fat men with obese gut be flirting with 9s and 10s while simultaneously shitting on fat women, calling them all sorts of names and treating them like dirt. I just can't with the hypocrisy of these people. I don't wanna hate fat people because I was once like that, but I am now veryyyyy wary of fat men because their sense of entitlement is just crazy.
I like men who take care of their physique because I am too, but it is like finding a unicorn here - gym is still considered "the place where gay people go" like taking care of your body is "gay", but looking like a pregnant lady is not gay? Huh.
[–]caramealsFDS Newbie30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I notice this too. Fat men trying to get with 9s and 10s model materials, get rejected, then complain and be bitter towards women! Projection at its finest. Like dude why don't you just go for pickmeshas who are in your level if you can't handle rejection and won't improve yourself
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Like dude why don't you just go for pickmeshas who are in your level if you can't handle rejection and won't improve yourself
They will eventually settle with the pickmes, but you know they'll resent every minute of it and make it their life mission to destroy the poor women's self confidence. Like how dare the wife/gf gain weight and not look like the pornstars of their wet dreams. While they look like shrek and smells like trolls.
I have met so much more handsome and well-off men with more humble attitude while fat men act like they own the damn world, ughhh.
[–]Proud-PurposeFDS Apprentice4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Which is why all this furious oinking about "all women wanting chads and settling for betas" is so entertaining. All men want the absolute top percentile of women, genetics wise. But because males (especially betas) bear no costs associated with reproduction and bad sex is better than no sex, they will all settle with Beckies, which however doesn't mean that they won't resent every second because she's a living, breathing reminder of their betadom.
[–]jeanneeebeanneeeFDS Apprentice88 points89 points90 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Being clean is gay"
[–]KevlarSweetheartFDS Newbie23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think many Asian men do tend to take care of themselves and it's refreshing being in Korea and seeing men being comfortable in their sexuality in terms of wearing purses, wearing makeup, etc.
BUT-I wish people wouldn't romanticize any culture based on appearances. There are so many problems with misogyny, pedo stuff, and rape culture here. The men may look better but inside-they are the same.
Yeah, it's refreshing to see "metrosexuals" lol. I think it would greatly benefit anybody to fill in their eyebrows. Instead, even skincare is perceived as feminine, when it's just basic self care. That is a turn off, when they don't even wear sunscreen in the winter.
I might even say they are worse because of corrupt law, such as with the Burning Sun Club scandal. Police there beat up the victim even more.
[–][deleted] 198 points199 points200 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
This is so true. That's probably why I find Japanese men so much more attractive than Western men. They have such lovely skin and hair, good posture, they look well maintained. I don't understand why Western men think this doesn't matter.
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 111 points112 points113 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
IKR? I’m fairly tall, so more into Korean men. But I like the fact that they are so well groomed. And they’re not afraid to dance. Even Indian men like Hrithik Roshan take pride in that.
Kai even has better smudged eyeliner game than I do, learning the secret of his technique would be reason enough for me to date him 😂
[–][deleted] 40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I looked up Kai. He's a beautiful young man. Too young for me (I'm 45) but he exemplifies what I'm talking about: the silky skin, shiny, well- styled hair, keen fashion sense. I guess Western men think these things are too "metrosexual". They bought into the idea that all women are attracted to the Marlboro Man. Or, they simply don't care about taking care of themselves.
Diet and lifestyle is a factor too. We all know traditional Asian diets are much more healthful, and the common practice of consuming tea, ginger and other fortifying spices certainly can't hurt.
[–]PinkFurLookinLikeCamFDS Newbie21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Jesus Korean men are so beautiful. Between their sense of style and athleticism😍
[–]lacyvultureFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not enough of them for all of us in the world :(
[–]creamtart_FDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I second this.
[–]MerryprankstressFDS Newbie48 points49 points50 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Japanese men are downright beautiful compared to Western men
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[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 62 points63 points64 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. LVM and HVM exist in every country. Every culture also has their pro’s and con’s and we should watch out with putting whole groups on a pedestal.
That said, this post was in no way meant to fetishise or elevate Asian men above others (I would gladly date HVM from all backgrounds), but rather point out the difference grooming can make for a man and how opposed some guys are to it.
Cherry on top was me being able to mention Jason and Kai in the same sentence 😍
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice41 points42 points43 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Yep, am southeast asian and can confirm 100% - misogyny is too deep rooted in asian countries. Watch Hello Counselor and see for yourself. Even the Japanese culture is super misogynistic. I think between Korea, Japan and Chinese, Chinese is the least misogynistic - mainly because the women there are not afraid to cause a scene. Still quite bad though because of the "leftover women". Unless the guy is raised by a HVM - like Xiao Zhan (The Untamed) and Park Jimin (BTS) (I listed people with the most consistent HVM behavior), they are most likely to be LVM/NVM. Even the handsome guys - especially the handsome guys.
[–]throwthisawayred3FDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
mainly because the women there are not afraid to cause a scene.
i'm ignorant on this -can you tell me more? i wasn't aware of this
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Can't say the same for the more secluded villages (China is big afterall) but the women in the cities are typically more money-oriented and they have no problem dumping men if they don't met their criteria. There's still the misogynistic pressure of marrying young, but the parents tend to spoil the daughters and want men to treat them like princesses. So the men are pressured to keep bringing in the money.
I don't know how wide this practice is - but I've heard in some part of china, the wife controls the finance of the house and the husband handed the money to her. So she is responsible for regulating the spending, but she can collect her allowance automatically too.
And based on general observation, Chinese women are more feisty and brave than Japanese and Korean women - they are colder, harsher, less empathetic.
[–]throwthisawayred3FDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Interesting! Do you know why this is? And are you talking about Chinese/Japanese/Korean women in America, or elsewhere? Cuz I know there's a big diaspora.
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I am talking about the Chinese from Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, and Mainland China. I am from Malaysia where Chinese is one of the three major race (is that the correct term?) and follow quite a bit of Chinese news. Of course there's varying personality but when the overall culture support the women being more feisty, that tends to be the norm. Always see chinese family here where the mom is in charge.
I think American-born chinese is livelier (the mainland women are quieter) but they are also softer when it comes to treating their men. Mainland women can be straight ice-cold sis. I wouldn't say they follow the queen rules because for them - high quality men = wealthy men (which we know is not the case at all) but we definitely can learn how to be less forgiving from them.
[–]throwthisawayred3FDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Damn, what a fascinating insight, thank you. Go THEM. haha
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I found it especially fascinating about how in US mainly, the guy moving into the girl's apartment and leeching off her is becoming the norm. If you do that in Asian countries, you will be scorned to death and called all kinds of names. There are guys who do that of course, but it is not something to brag or be proud of.
[–]throwthisawayred3FDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, what a lovely turn of ideas. They certainly have it right.
[–]Hazel-rah99FDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for posting this. Read some comments here and was like LADIES... most men are LVM. That applies WORLDWIDE! Don’t be fooled by pop stars, come on!
[–]descending_angelFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've heard this, too. I know there are nvm/hvm across ethnicities and races but I've consistently heard some negativity about them being conservative/patriarchal. Which blows cause I think they are so attractive (along with men from everywhere else -- though I think as a hispanic and living where I do I've dated far too many hispanics lol). I just wish hvm were more ubiquitous. I wonder how it's gonna be for later generations.
[–]GrungeAudreyFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Note aside, I suspect that when she says "Western" men she means probably the Anglosphere and maybe some extra countries. And I'm tired of that, but not gonna rant about it.
The overweight, "dorky and dirty t-shirt" look is not that common in Southern Europe, neither in Scandinavia. I'm a city full of expats and I notice many American/Brit/Aussies definitely feel inadequate and dorkier in comparison to other men, including other white guys.
[–]apple_coresFDS Newbie15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
My girlfriends and I were just talking about this. We’ve come across so many duds on hinge who look way older than their listed age. So either they’re lying about their age, or they just don’t take care of their skin. Me and my girlfriends all take care of our skin. Even my younger brother who I would say is a HVM doesn’t take care of his skin like he should. Since he’s my younger brother, I get on his case about it and help him pick out skincare so his future gf or wife won’t have to train him and so he won’t look 39 when he hits 30.
[–]flowerdough38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I wasn't sure if it was a COVID-19 protection/cloth face mask or a face mask for skincare. Either applies omfg
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow, I never even thought about it that way. But you're so right. The only men I've seen wearing PPE in my country this year have been Asian men.
[–]flowerdough39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel like Western culture missed the fucken boat on wearing masks even before COVID. Asian cultures were out here being collectivist and non-shitty to others since forever and masks are/were commonplace when anyone is sick or traveling.
Meanwhile every time I go to the grocery store or pharmacy in my US state, there are twelve middle-aged white men with 1-ply masks they can't even bear to keep over their mouths or noses. The half mask is my favorite and the ultimate lazy LVM move - "I don't care about anyone and I'm probably going to kill your grandma with how shitty I am" vibes. I'd remind them politely to mask up if I wasn't worried about violent responses.
[–]Rockypoo13FDS Newbie21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Turned 33 at 18, I'm fuckin' dead. I know a guy just like this. Balding at 21. Straight up looked like he was twice my age, despite us being the same age. We went somewhere together as friends, and I'm fairly certain the bartender and manager who scrutinized my ID for several minutes thought I was underage and he was my sugar daddy.
[–]Wise-JellyFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
TBH one of my Asian exes shit himself in public and had the WORST hygiene I've ever seen in my life. (despite being in med school) not counting his crazy, I do agree there are different cultural standards for East Asian men vs Western men in regards to appearances.
I was actually thinking today about how masculinity can differ based on cultural expectations, and how dating as an Asian guy in the US could be completely different than in Asia, etc.
However. Something deeply disturbing to me about the kpop trend is that Korean people are becoming fetish objects for western audiences. (women have been treated as an exotic other in western culture in the past/present and I worry this same toxic pattern of thinking could be applied to some kpop fandoms towards men as well) I'm not saying this is what OP is doing at all. But it is something I've been wondering about and actually really wanting to discuss. You can appreciate kpop without appropriating and idolizing certain aspects of Korean culture, while ignoring other parts of East Asian masculinity which are extremely problematic (Domestic violence is a huge problem in Korea) This is not saying that Korean culture is bad or that Korean men are inherently bad in any way. (Toxic masculinity is a global problem and needs to be called out in any context) As western countries are waking up to the fact that a lot about our culture is problematic and needs to change, we seem to cherry pick parts of other cultures while largely remaining ignorent. I do think it's positive how Asian men are now being considered attractive and sexually appealing and hopefully overcoming the sexless nerd stereotype in the US.
*TW* for the next paragraph and I might delete later but I really wanted to put it into writing.
I think it's so touchy for me because of how violent my Korean ex was towards me- *tw* he grew up with an abusive father who tried to kill his mother repeatedly and I saw those same behavioral patterns with him, I could care less about how much he looked like a kpop star when he was trying to strangle me. The last time we talked he said he wanted to just beat some sense into me and then he could forgive me for breaking up with him. Domestic violence rates are extremely high in Korea and (Korean) friends did try to warn me about this. Ironically, the next Korean guy I dated told me DV was a huge problem but *tw* always crossed my boundaries and I woke up to him touching me in my sleep multiple times. Of course, this is not every single guy from Korea and this is a societal problem that happens all over the world, but toxic masculinity needs to be called out in any context. I might delete this later but after those expiriences, I'm sick of how libfems discourage thinking critically or criticizing any non-western culture without gasp worrying about being perceived as racist/ignorant. Yes, western masculinity is problematic and needs to change, but Asian misogyny can be problematic as well. I may not know enough about Korean culture and I will happily take a backseat to Korean/Asian women who could speak more about this, but my lived experiences still count for something (I'm not trying to paint all Korean men as the same, but this is a societal problem, just like we have so many similar problems in the US that need to be discussed as well)
I thought I was gaining an ally against white patriarchal BS dating outside of my race with Asian men but I didn't take into consideration how brutal Asian patriarchy could be.
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I remember this!!! Was this the guy who wanted to KEEP his boxershorts?!?!
I myself don’t really have a preference when it comes to race. I’m equally into Kai, Jason Momoa, Alexander Skarsgard or Obama 😂 I just want my man hydrated and I find it hilarious how other men get all butthurt when they hear that I also find Asian men attractive and act like it’s a betrayal. For some reason, they always come up with the topic of dick size.
I do think we have to be careful with attributing ‘HV’ characteristics to a whole culture, country or race. It’s not possible and it’s not real.
My mom herself comes from an Asian/North African background and I’ve witnessed toxic and violent behaviour from LV men from those cultures first hand. I also witnessed very HV behaviour from other men in my family. My sister and I chose to primarily date Western men because we’re quite autonomous and feisty and both ended up in DV too at some point. NVM will always be NV in the end, whatever their background.
There are NVM in all cultures and we should always be vetting them. FDS can help us tremendously with this!
[–]ApplegooglepearFDS Newbie59 points60 points61 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
At first I thought this was funny...
But then I quickly realized this tweet is most likely comparing celebrities to everyone else
doesn't even include "all asian men" it's specifically talking about Korean men.
If you are watching asian dramas and frequently listen to kpop etc
You're going to be in for a rude awakening .
As someone who has worked around, and has been around asian men for over half my life .this post isn't speaking 100% facts maybe 15%? 🤷🏽😂
[–]even_thrillerFDS Apprentice17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
You're right. This is only talking about korean men when asian men can include all men in asia, including those from india and southeast asia. I'm pretty sure the everyday asian man doesn't look like a celebrity. This post only speaks a little of the truth and I agree they definitely do have better skincare routines but that's beyond it. Each culture has its own horrible aspects and not one type of culture with men is better than another.
[–]ApplegooglepearFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are a lot of people who post things like this who don't believe or even consider indian men to be asian.
But you are exactly right ! no culture of men is better than the other 🤣
[–]Pudding5050FDS Newbie32 points33 points34 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I don't think this is an accurate thread at all. It even borderlines trolling to me. Asia is huge. There are billions of asian men. "Asian men" doesn't equal some kpop dudes. This is some weird orientalism fetishizing.
[–]ApplegooglepearFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly!! It definitely stems from fetish ..but most people don't want to admit that.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, they get hostile and say your full of crap when you have a valid point they fetishing someone's race.
[–]even_thrillerFDS Apprentice7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have to agree with you. Its definitely very uncomfortable.
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They still could learn a shitton from their skincare routine.
[–]ApplegooglepearFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True! Lol but for most of them it's already too late.
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[–]KY0203FDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is very true! I always held the Asian men I’ve met (especially Desi men) in high regard.
Very respectful, took great care of themselves, never behaved like the pigs American men often act like. Then I realized I’m only meeting the 1%. The “best of the best”.
Mostly doctors, a couple were in tech fields, but at a higher level. It’s sad how impressed I was by a man caring about interior decorating and not having a dumpster pit of a bachelor’s pad. If even a few things were out of place they’d profusely apologize for the mess (even though they’re working 60-70 hr weeks in residency/research). Even as platonic friends they’d insist they always pay (I don’t mean just food either, if running errands together they’d insist on paying for my things). Plus the gifts! I’ve never met men who wanted to know my interests just to surprise me with thoughtful gifts to show their appreciation of our friendship or relationship.
Then it dawned onto me, American women have no damn standards. Men get away with the bare minimum so why would they do more than they have to? Desi/Asian women at these men’s level EXPECT these things. They leveled up and demand to be treated at their actual value. Patriarchy is still a huge issue in some cultures but it appears to become much more liberal as a family is more successful. It’s almost like the 1% is this perfect blend of liberal yet still wants to provide and care for the women. (This is generalization, of course. High and low value men can be found in every culture and demographic).
In summary, it’s pathetic how impressed I was by being respected and treated well by a man. Thanks to FDS I now realize I deserve those things and should never accept anything less. Also, I agree that other cultures take better care of themselves and those they care for. But it’s likely not bc of their culture as a whole, and more bc as Americans we tend to only be exposed to the best, as that’s who we allow to immigrate here easier. Go to a small rural village in their home country and you’ll be disgusted by the treatment of women.
I’m very curious to hear others experiences with dating Asian and/or Desi men. Good experience? Bad? Do you feel they differ from American men?
(I do know Desi is technically Asian, I just separate India/Pakistan into the Desi category as they seem to have a different culture than the rest of Asians).
I did notice there’s quite a few Desi females in this group. Absolute queens! I can tell from their hilarious posts! Can someone PLEASE teach me how to make decent briyani. My life would be complete! Lol. I also speak a bit of Urdu, too, and would love to be able to practice with a female friend for once. If anyone left Islam or currently practices, I also would love a female to discuss things with. Mainly culture vs religion. Muslim men I’ve met have been some of the highest value. Yet so many people use the religion (or culture) as an excuse to be absolute garbage humans.
I’ve rambled enough here but I have always wished I had a female friend to discuss these things with, men just don’t have the same life experiences/perspectives that a female has. Plus I truly could use more female friends that share my belief in the FDS mentality (or lifestyle, it’s really more of a lifestyle I suppose).
Sorry again for the long post 🤦♀️
[–]Icchy24FDS Newbie38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Me over here has dated asian men with the above white men descriptors 💀💀💀
One of my exes used to exclusively wear basketball shorts in the summer despite me wearing cute dresses all the time and me telling him "can you wear those less".
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah, you got the ‘best’ of both worlds 🤣
[–]FDSxMuffinVSratFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Savage
[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
the 8-in-1 body wash enthusiasts are shaking
no, but seriously I thank kpop male idols specifically for showing me what the apex of male beauty looks like. Taehyung from BTS, for example, is like my ideal man appearance wise + the way he carries himself (public-facing obvi)!! not only that, but they inspire me to level up my appearance as well. :o but ofc...this is only abt famous Asian men & this post is probs referring to how western, non Asian men see their popularity and go "they look like girls/are gay/what's the appeal" bc they r jealous
I still believe the majority of men regardless of race/culture r garbage, tho xD lol
[–]Brookiebear880 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tae gets more and more handsome everyday
[–]Caspian-seaFDS Newbie42 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Do "Western men" have *any* thing to offer at this point ? All you see is them being pigs to everyone & lusting after "subservient foreign womennn" while having zero looks/personality to boot. No wonder their own women even fucking hate them, it ain't a coincidence is it? They only date 'out'/buy foreign impoverished brides since they CAN'T date in.
[–]Pudding5050FDS Newbie28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Meh, being HV or not doesn't have anything to do with whether you're western or asian. I'm not quite sure I see the difference between "lusting for asian men" and "lusting for foreign women". I don't hate western men in general, I dislike the LVM but you'll find them in other populations as well. Asian culture can be tradfem and misogynic as fuck.
[–]Caspian-seaFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I suppose my limit of patience left for them comes from living in a Western culture, where I have never in my life seen males from any other group/background except the ones born/raised here, have next to no saving grace - most men who were born/raised here normalize drug use + "polyamory" + never paying for dates cuz "that's not feminist" + talking to women in the rudest ways imaginable ("it's a free society") + looking crusty and neglected as fuck while expecting the woman to look like a model. I mean you can't be such a horrible individual + waste of space, and on top of it demand that nobody "should ever expect anything from you, looks wise or personality wise" (yes that's a north american male entitlement I literally do not see with anyone else).
Yes all cultures have LVM, but have I seen a place where the men just have so little redeeming quality & yet have so many negative qualities all present at once? No, not yet, in my entire life.
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I get you - when every white men look like crusty trolls and not showering for weeks but still can get dates, other white men will follow the norm too.
At least asian guys have peer-pressure to look well-groomed and smell nice because that's what people's expectation of them.
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[–]Caspian-seaFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn't consider this immediately, you definitely made a valid observation - I suppose I was thinking along the lines of "lesser evils" & how Low Value still comes in different degrees.
I sincerely feel like the only thing stopping the males in my current country of residence from groping all the women on the train (and they do, not as much as in Japan) is the paper thin line of our law enforcement here being stricter on sexual harassment. That's literally it, otherwise they've toed the line as much as they could where I am, and I loathed going into public transport/bought a car largely due to this. I've been stuck underground on trains with horrible men who wouldn't stop trying to speak to me (they even MOVE when I move away from them!!) almost **daily** before I finally got a car to get out of this.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The diamonds in western men are out there they are unicorns.
[–]NottodayScroteFDS Newbie60 points61 points62 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Asian men are my preference. Imo they're much more masculine than white men and I really like how Asian people value their family. White dudes can't stand it. Even the ones who claim to hate Western women will cry and rage about it. Also Ive never met anyone more obsessed with another mans dick than straight, white men
[–]hellau1234FDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have to say though the worst ones are straight, white men in Asian countries. I’ve never seen men more obsessed with other men’s dicks than with them. It’s ridiculous
[–]planethoneyyFDS Newbie60 points61 points62 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Eh, don't put all asian men on a pedastal. Yeah they have some great cultural ideals but not all of them follow it. My ex was Laotian/Chinese and he really showed me that NVM of any race exist. He was a felon and a deadbeat dad with a pickme baby mama. He didn't like brushing his teeth and had a forever forklift driver job trajectory. His family was so dysfunctional, absentee dad and an alcoholic mother that liked to gamble. He did have a skincare routine though so I guess that matters 🤷🏾♀️
[–]majaohaloFDS Newbie27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I was involved with a terribly manipulative awful guy from Mongolia! Had to go to therapy to undo the damage from his crusty self. I also was friends with another Mongolian guy who kept shitty, misogynist friends around him and clearly didn't care to correct them...
NVM are absolutely everywhere, don't want women falling into the trap of thinking that men from X place are "safe." I mean issues such as the hidden spy cams in South Korea are another example of men being disgusting all over the place. Misogyny is so universal :-(
[–]SayNadFDS Apprentice15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
the hidden spy cams in South Korea
Look up the Burning Sun scandal and the chat room thingy. You can see the most degenerate LVM/NVM treating young women much worse than animals.
[–]majaohaloFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Omg yes! It all makes me sick. The total disregard for women's personhood and safety, and degenerate behaviour by men with 'power.' Link for anyone unfamiliar.
[–]rayvin4000FDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When they're 47 tho they still won't care and they'll think they deserve a 18 year old maid/wife anyway. I do respect my Asian sisters, they do not tolerate scrubby looking guys.
[–]Hipster-AuroraFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not only Asian, they're jealous of any man who owns a comb and actually uses it and doesn't wear the same shirt 5 days in a row.
[–]BungalowBootieBitchFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Guys swear they hate skin routines till you get them into it 🙄 my ex thought clay masks were stupid till he saw his skin improve. I was the only reason why he cared about his skin for two years. He's probably back to dehydrated skin.
[–]JaneIsaPainFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes but my Asian friends dont date Asian men because they say they are too masculine and misogynistic, w strong gender role ideologies eg woman cooks, serves, looks after kids.
[–]shedragonessFDS Newbie32 points33 points34 points 5 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
But somehow Asian chicks flock to white men so much 🤔
Asian men these days look more appealing.
[–]DelicateDreamFDS Disciple59 points60 points61 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s about status, which WM are steadily losing (and are very angry about it).
[–]superheroxnerdFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As an asian woman, I think the only real positive thing about dating a white guy js the amount of wife responsibilities/expectation is basically nil compared to marrying into another asian family.
[–]burpleseaurchinFDS Newbie44 points45 points46 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I've dated about equal numbers of white guys and Asian guys and I think really the off putting thing about certain Asian guys is that Asian culture is still misogynistic, but it a traditional-y "women are weak and dumb" kind of way. Only the one I dated with more Americanized parents treated me without that vibe, and I really can't deal with men who are condescending for no reason (am in a STEM field and the number of dudebros no matter what their ethnicity who assumed I'm not good at what I do or immediately assumed I'm not better than they are with no evidence... Smh).
The white guys have other issues like seemingly being more prone to "joking" disrespect which also doesn't get tolerated (similar vibes to those stupid fucking "prank my gf!" videos). But they seem more used to/okay with the woman knowing more or being better, whereas Asian guys seem to get weird about it.
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel the same and I think that's why more white men seemed like the better option. They have other toxic bs though and I feel like lately a lot of (E)AF are now more likely to stay single too.
[–]burpleseaurchinFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree about the seeming better, it's that and also there are just more of them even if you live in an area with a good amount of Asians, so kind of statistically if you were open to both you just might run into more "eligible" white guy options since you can cull way more of them. 🤣
It's just annoying that it's so damn hard to find a guy who treats you like a human. 😑
[–]beautysubthrowwFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Personally I prefer rugged looking men and (east) Asian guys seem to have a more clean cut aesthetic. I think they're objectively attractive and I can see why other women go for them, just not my type.
Also speaking as a South Asian woman a lot of SA men tend to be momma's boys. I think every culture comes with its pros and cons.
[–]beautysubthrowwFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eh I married a white man and haven't had any issues and he's been very supportive in everything. I also appreciate that he has firm boundaries with his family which I find a lot of SA people in general struggle with. I think HVMs exist in every culture, you just have to fine tune your selection criteria depending on who you're going for.
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple[S] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
But do they really? I think a lot of them are self partnered too.
[–]shedragonessFDS Newbie15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Just go to a town like San Francisco: the rate of WM/AF couples is astronomical.
[–]cherryloafFDS Newbie40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
As a woman from a different culture that's fetishized, I think a lot of it is their weird porn fantasy. I'm Eastern European and every Asian girl I've met had the same experience with gross guys thinking our nationality means we'll be some perfect feminine submissive docile bangmaid.
[–]localgirlcultFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes. This shit. You would not believe the gross fetishy trash I've heard from Asian guys about various European women. If women here think they didn't pull out the "xy European nationality KnOw hOw tO tReAt THEIR mEn" and much worse things, they're straight up delusional. Like yeah, fucking Yoosung uses serum and moisturizer but him being a misogynist isn't unlikely. Do not put any of these people on a pedestal just because you don't have enough experience with them, for the love of God. Their better grooming habits on average are just that, they say nothing about how they'll treat you.
[–]KevlarSweetheartFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly! Alot of my white friends here get asked if they are 'Russian' for one reason only.
They tend to think most foreign women are prostitutes here.
[–]birdsaregr8m8sostop0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup! About time some talked about AF self-hate and white worship.
[–]textbasedpandaFDS Apprentice20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of WM specifically want to date (east)AF, and a lot of AF specifically do not want to date AM. This is actually a pretty common point of contention in Asian communities; the boys are bitter about it.
[–]seawitchbitchFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Or any military base ever.
[–]shedragonessFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Omg yes! Too true!!!!!!
[–]throwthisawayred3FDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
a lot of them jewish WM with East AF
[–]sadandhornyyThrowaway Account7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
men see a moisturized man and call him gay 🙄
[–]PollyAnnaSunshineFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Savageeeeee 💥🔥💫
[–]polardonutThrowaway Account4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is straight up facts tho. Like just because someone actually takes care of themselves doesn't mean they r gay. Cant believe the number of insecure men trying to push the agenda that real men don't take showers and don't give a shit about themselves/ their appearance. Like no man, its just u who is nasty.....
[–]PoeticINFPFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not even just western (which I'm assuming is codeword for American here), European men, and African men both seem to take more care into their style. It's mostly in the US/Canada and Uk (I'm assuming that last one), where women are dressed and made up and the men just show up.
Do men tend to have clearer skin tho? I notice less have acne, but they tend to be judged less closely on their skin. Their skin stay looking and feeling dry.
[–]HmtnswFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Love me a man who colors and tweezers his eyebrows, uses toner, lotion, wears a mask and BB cream. There is nothing unmanly about good beauty habits.
[–]raspberrycoffeeFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Omg, the truth here. I am dating an Asian man now, and he is always impeccably dressed and groomed. Even when he is dressed for comfort, he looks so great. My last boyfriend wore shirts with rips in the armpit and holey Converse. The difference is night and day and I cant believe I was ever okay with the latter.
[–]Littlebunny080FDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmaooo too relatable! But seriously I find neck beard oh so disgusting and repulsive like really 🤮😬
[–]KelandryFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OMG yes-- my preference has become Asian men... they are incredibly attractive, know how to dress (hello nurse!) driven and loving over all.
[–]ShieldMaidenLagerthaFDS Apprentice8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
🤣🤣🤣
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Wow that's a 3rd degree burn with 100% coverage... Off to the burns ward you go neckbeards.
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dayummm she came for SCALPS
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Lmaooo
[–]betaluvFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This killed me
[–]tauruspiscescancerFDS Disciple1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m crying!! 😭😭😭
[–]throwaway_vibesFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A white guy once made a joke to me about Asian men having small dicks and I later told him an Asian man could probably f*ck me harder than he could. The look on this white guy's face! It was like I had physically hurt him, lol! He could not believe it, and told me no one had ever questioned his "jokes" (it wasn't funny) like that before.
[–]lemur00FDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I dunno, there's definitely a real critique there too though. Koreans in particular don't seem to like men that look like men. I knew a Korean guy who was stylish but looked quite masculine compared to most stylish Koreans I've known (which I found more attractive). But he'd send me pics with the filters that gave him the typical androgynous look, like he was embarrassed that he looked like a man and not a boy. One of the few people I ever met who was more attractive irl than with filters 😂
[–]Thenightsaresolong_FDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I give my boyfriend my extra skincare products (because I tend to hoard and then worry about them going bad; or just because I didn’t enjoy something and would prefer to move on to something else instead) and he l o v e s it. He says it makes him feel so fancy! His skincare routine before we met was bar soap, twice a day, extra water. Now he exfoliates, cleanses, moisturizes, applies sunscreen twice a day, and can identify how to use serums. I even got him to do a sheet mask and 10 step kbeauty routine with me last weekend. It’s so great.
[–]throwthisawayred3FDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
can identify how to use serums
i need help too pls lol
[–]RavenWudgieRoseFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/skincareaddiction was a great help and will cover that for you!
[–]Thenightsaresolong_FDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Skincare addiction subreddit is great! I also am a big fan of r/asianbeauty and r/koreanbeauty because I specifically loooove extensive and complicated routines but it can be overwhelming if you’re just starting out! You may want to try r/beautyboxes to build up your collection if you’re REALLY new and want to get some makeup along with skincare :)
[–]coolestgirlyouevermeFDS Apprentice1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
🔥Savage🔥Roast🔥
[–]kaitybubblyFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love this so much! Whenever some guys I know mentioned something similar I always think back to how well kpop idols and Asian actors take care of themselves.
SAVAGE!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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