Is true love even real…?

MidoriEgg · 2023-11-10T18:00:15+00:00

Did you ever have a favourite teddy bear as a kid that was just a normal teddy but you wouldn’t trade for anything? Not even the newest shiniest toy that came with a voice box.

richard_golbes · 2023-11-10T19:18:33+00:00

This is a such a strange way of thinking.

"Love" is a process. It's the accumulation of years of commitment, memories, social entanglement, and mutual growth. Mentally healthy people don't just throw that away for the chance at a more shiny object over there.

Nobody thinks this way about best friend from childhood or their mother. What does "better" or "perfect" mean in comparison to a person you've shared so much with?

Gitsumrestmf · 2023-11-10T17:45:29+00:00

There's such a thing as responsibility, or duty. To answer your question, no. If I commit to a woman, even if there are much more beautiful ones out there, I'll remain committed. Why? Because if I did commit to her, that means she was someone, who's company I enjoy, and who's values align with my own.

And if you date people based only on looks, well... no wonder you even have to ask the question "is love even real?".

SlothMonster9 · 2023-11-10T19:00:26+00:00

Would you just ditch your beloved dog for an even better dog that knows more tricks and has a shinier coat? Of course not. Cause you love YOUR dog, with all their good and bad and weird things that make them unique. You have a relationship together and that connection is what matters to people, not the sum of their partner's characteristics.

Femcelphobic · 2023-11-10T18:01:27+00:00

Unconditional love doesn't exist outside of familial connections, and if it does, it's very rare. It's a childish thing to stress yourself out over. Everyone is measured by their value. However, people are sentimental and don't always part easily with things they have an emotional attachment to.

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2023-11-10T17:54:02+00:00

The ideal person doesn't exist. Even if Chris Hemsworth was your perfect man, he'd have some traits/do things that annoy you, because once you remove the glamour of his celebrity status, he's just another person. People have flaws, people have baggage, people have their own little quirks that might not mesh well with yours. Dwelling on the idea of whether someone would leave you if their dream person was snapped into existence is pointless. It's like me wondering if I would take down the government if I had super powers or if I'd just continue my life as it is. It's an interesting shower thought but, ultimately, it's not going to happen because superpowers and perfect people with no flaws who are tailor-made for you don't exist.

MistyMaisel · 2023-11-10T18:11:24+00:00

Never. I love my man. He may not be perfect by whatever standards you're chucking, but he is perfect for me and we have so many wonderful and cherished memories and a stable and joyous place in our communities and families together.

This so called perfect man has none of that. And there's no reason to assume I could build any of that with him. And even if there were, I still love my man more.

jayval90 · 2023-11-10T18:39:33+00:00

Love isn't a contest. It's a commitment.

mackenzie013_02 · 2023-11-10T18:48:37+00:00

If I have feelings for someone and love them; then why would I go for someone I feel nothing for?

y2kjanelle · 2023-11-10T19:02:30+00:00

Well first off, I would see a therapist about this whole deeply depressive and OCD like hyper fixation on this topic. It's really not THAT deep.

But if by true love, you mean unconditional love, then no. It doesn't exist. At least not very often and not healthily.

Most relationships, and 100% of healthy relationships are completely conditional. For example, I love my boyfriend to the moon and back. Yet if he ever hit me or forced me to have sex with him, or idk put me in danger, that love would be taken away. I know he loves me too, and so much, yet I know damn well if I started acting crazy, he would walk away. Because when it all comes down to it, love is a verb. It is a choice.

Maybe infatuation is unconditional idk. Maybe being so infatuated with someone that you tolerate bad behavior or abuse or whatever other kind of dealbreakers that person bends to "love" some person is the kind of "true love" you're talking about. But it's not healthy, it's not sustainable, and it's damaging.

I think people are just conditioned to idealize this fantasy of doing anything for someone because it seems so grandeur.

But in reality, conditional love is much more special. Because it means that every single day, you work to be a great partner and you make the conscious choice to love each other and respect each other's standards. Conditional love means that you agree on boundaries with each other and weather storms together while being strong enough as a team not to tear each other apart or break each other's boundaries.

Anyone who's ever been in "true love", wants it to be conditional. That's the thing. They want their partner to have standards and high expectations of them. And they want to meet them. They want their partner to have high self esteem, high self respect, and they want to be respected for having those things as well.

Katatonicsnake · 2023-11-10T19:00:53+00:00

Love is not a feeling, and it’s definitely not the sense of accomplishment you might experience when you compare your significant other to other people, using selected traits as indicators of your success.

Love is more like a promise, a deeper connection or the actions you take every day. It might’ve started with a feeling but if that’s all you’ve got, it wasn’t love.

Objective_Ad_6265 · 2023-11-10T19:22:11+00:00

But some people are actually with the person of their dreams...

gntlbastard · 2023-11-10T18:54:57+00:00

This is why marriage is more than "love" and why it has become so disposable. It used to be about more than love and sex.

DumbDumbDatingPhD100 · 2023-11-10T19:33:30+00:00

Shared equity.

By definition, no new person can offer the time spent together and the built up emotions and trust. That has added a great deal to the relationship over the time.

The fraction of the value of my relationship attributable to the things that we brought to the table immediately (looks, some aspects of personality, etc) is tiny compared to the whole.

Gold_Supermarket1956 · 2023-11-10T17:54:57+00:00

No because perfection is fake, people don't fall in love with the good they fall in love with the flaws, the whole package, but if you truly love a person their flaws will never be off putting

KikiYuyu · 2023-11-10T19:23:13+00:00

I would have to live with myself knowing what an awful person I am for abandoning someone. No amount of hotness could erase my self loathing.

NefariousnessLife220 · 2023-11-10T19:35:35+00:00

That's not how commitment works.

SecondEldenLord · 2023-11-10T19:42:30+00:00

Most of us humans had became incredibly selfish, nowadays in relationships we are thinking "what can that person do for me" instead of thinking "what can I do for them". We think we are entitled to the perfect person when in reality none of us is perfect. Me personally, if I found a woman I truly love and care for, I wouldn't dump them for any ideal partner ever. Cause I am not perfect either, and if they accept me for my faults, then I will accept them with their faults too. True love exists if you are able to love someone more than you do yourself, cause in the very end, most of us are so shallow, narcissistic and selfish, and to be able to love another human being just for who they are, not what they are, then that is true love.

Hot-Law2682 · 2023-11-10T21:38:54+00:00

"true love" is something that is built between two people and so is wholly unique.

Even if I could find someone more attractive, funnier, etc, they would not have the connection I have built with my partner (in this hypothetical true love scenario).

"True love" is building a life with someone, sharing goals, and knowing the best and worst parts of them. It is not something you can instantly trade away because no one else can provide it, it needs to be built over time.

kamalaophelia · 2023-11-10T21:58:20+00:00

Uhm… thing is… when I look at my partner he is the most charismatic, most attractive, smartest, sexiest person ever. Even when he eats all my snacks 😂 Love made me think Henry Cavill is “okay” but not as hot and wonderful as my partner.

I just love this guy, and imagining a life without him, even with a different relationship makes me cry.

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2023-11-10T17:59:14+00:00

Depends how you're defining love. You have to assume that in any relationship that' lasted more than a few years, one or both of them have had thw opportunoty to leave for someone with better traits.

You and your future wife will both be settling. In certain areas because everyone has imperfections.

Also, Emma Watson was a strange example to choose. Was she the most attractive woman you could think of?

Bekiala · 2023-11-10T18:46:27+00:00

The concept of "Love" seems to have acquired a lot of different meanings. In the sense of attraction as OP describes, it would seem lust would be more appropriate to use. A person may get into a relationship with someone for whom they have more attraction for than anyone else and no one else ever comes along for whom they feel more attraction but I wouldn't call their relationship "true love".

I liked Scott Peck's description of love as "the expansion of your limits for the benefit of yourself or someone else.". He went on to say"Falling in love is the collapse of all limits."

I'd probably argue that "True love" is built over time in a workable relationship not just found in an individual someone meets.

leosandlattes · 2023-11-10T19:01:39+00:00

Imagine this. You dream partner. Fulfills EVERY wish you have in a partner. Sensual. Sexy. Charismatic.

Perfect.

This person does not exist. This person does not exist. These people do not exist.

It's a fantasy to think that God or whoever made a person on this planet specifically for you, who has all of your desires but no flaws.

People date and marry each other because they align well enough to what their partner is looking for. When you've built a life with that person and you're committed to each other, they understand you the best, they know how to love you the best, and they know all of these things about you that other people don't.

And that's infinitely better than some rando who's 6'2" but doesn't even know if I like roses vs. tulips, what Ben & Jerry's flavor to get when I'm sad, the best way to blow my back the fuck out, etc... All of these intimate details we learn about our partners that create a special place for them in our hearts.

jamie29ky · 2023-11-10T19:29:40+00:00

Once you get in deep with another person, all those little boxes you originally looked to check aren't relevant anymore. Anyway, if you leave a good thing for Mr. Perfect that you just met, you're a moron. Theres no way to know they are good for you until after you get with them. And by that point, you threw away something real for a fantasy. The real world just doesn't work the way you think it does.

januaryphilosopher · 2023-11-10T19:40:32+00:00

I imagined that partner and I was just imagining my current partner. That's what love feels like.

Horror_Loan9401 · 2023-11-10T19:52:30+00:00

I get what you're saying but you would never even know for sure, grass always seems greener on the other side, and it's about commitment.

I do agree that very few people actually find TRUE LOVE.

I think it would have to be 2 people who are exactly each other type looks wise, and they are both committed to staying in shape, and who have great chemistry in the bedroom, and love each other equally, where neither feels like they settled (which is very rare), and have the same beliefs, values, religion, class, wealth.

So its basically impossible to find that

you'd have to be successful and attractive and find someone successful and attractive, who you connect with in bed, who also thinks like you

anyone not an 8 or above is out because your partner would feel like they settled in the looks department

anyone not successful is out because your partner would feel like they settled in the financial stability department

anyone not good in bed is out because they feel like they settled in that department

that's why its so rare because usually people settle in some areas not all but some

EX. Chris Hemsworth and Elsa Pataky. in theory if they also have great sex, and the same beliefs they have probably found true love

Lina-Inverse · 2023-11-10T19:54:24+00:00

Parental love is the closest thing to what most would consider "love".

Everything else is just attachment and/or love of what someone can do for them. Not the individual themselves.

Realistic-Ad-1023 · 2023-11-10T20:22:12+00:00

The people who do leave good partners for the “perfect” one end up regretting it. Why? Because no one is perfect. You are falling for a lie. You think they’re more perfect than your current partner but they’re not. Once the newness and shine wears away - they’re a person with flaws the same as any other. And most people know this. Most people know leaving your family or husband for a lie would be foolish and would break his heart. A few dumb people (men and women) try to go for this new aMaZiNg partner, and are quickly disillusioned. This is why good LTR are started with love and a spark of attraction but their foundations are built upon trust, respect, honesty, communication, desire, passion and mutual goals and aspirations. Only someone who was an absolute twit would leave their partner for someone they don’t know or only know their surface level. Because if you’re married and allowed yourself to get close enough to someone to actually know them deep in their core, you fucked up and crossed a line and are already an awful person.

heckithall · 2023-11-11T03:06:36+00:00

This is the most shallow thing I’ve ever read. Maybe YOU feel that way, but I would never throw away my partner even for the sexiest man alive. No one shares our memories, inside jokes, years of friendship, and so much more. If you ever truly love someone you’d understand. It seems like you believe there is always something better out there, which you can always believe, but there can be so much more happiness and love felt by appreciating the right person when you find them, instead of looking for the next shiny thing

grillopie · 2023-11-10T17:55:45+00:00

you couldnt have possibly met all the women or men in the world before forming a relationship, so you are, in some sense, settling. after settling, bonding, building a life together, like buying a house, chilling with in laws, having kids, it eventually becomes very hard to leave that comfortable life, even for the “perfect” guy or girl.

im not sure what you expected love to be, but the person of your dreams is a dream, not a person.

pronouns-king-lord · 2023-11-10T17:52:00+00:00

women are the ones that monkey branch.

Jonesw16 · 2023-11-10T18:25:04+00:00

All it takes to be tossed aside is the right man, at the right place at the right time who makes her feel the right way. He will be smarter, bigger, stronger, more attractive, taller, richer and overall, better than you.

Whoever in a relationship cares the least holds the most power in it. Never get too comfortable.

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Veloci-Tractor · 2023-11-10T18:50:38+00:00

i believe true love is absolutely real but rare and not everyone finds it

BillyPilgrim75 · 2023-11-10T20:07:05+00:00

The answer is yes.

RidingRedHare · 2023-11-10T20:27:17+00:00

Would you not dump your current partner to go be with this person instead?

No, I would not.

relish5k · 2023-11-10T21:31:31+00:00

I couldn’t dump my current partner to be with my perfect partner because my current partner is my perfect partner. So that wouldn’t even make sense.

Chris Henson is handsome and I’m sure I would enjoy a good flirt with him. But I don’t know if he likes to make sarcastic jokes or debate politics or do the sex stuff just how I like it. Will he bring me coffee in bed every morning? Does he sing with a funky falsetto and have naturally smooth thighs? I would never ditch the surest thing in the world for a hypothetical

Big-Air-958 · 2023-11-10T21:34:05+00:00

Logic and emotions are different things.

TheIncredibleHarry · 2023-11-10T22:07:22+00:00

Yeah it’s real but it’s EXTREMELY RARE

raldabos · 2023-11-10T22:10:09+00:00

Yes, closest thing is probably the love most people have for their parents/siblings.

myrandomadvice · 2023-11-10T22:12:50+00:00

to be short: no. read the evolution of desire by david buss

macone235 · 2023-11-10T22:20:36+00:00

No, and anyone who believes otherwise (which is unfortunately most people in the west, particularly when they're young) has drunk too much of the Kool-aid.

It's crazy to me how people call TRP (that uses actual science) delusional, when modern society is the one purporting delusional fairytales like "true love" when all a relationships is is a woman extracting sexual, social, and economic capital out of a man. If you had less status, whether it be making less money, or shorter, or less confident - that same woman might not even acknowledge you as a human, but we've still deluded ourselves into believing that these people are "soulmates". That's all romance is at the end of the day - romanticizing status and particularly physical attractiveness into something that it isn't. Become Prince Chad, and you too, can become someone's true love! lmao

Only the west for the most part has been corrupted by this delusion though. For most of human history, and most of human society today, people see relationships for what they are - transactions.

Love-Is-Selfish · 2023-11-10T22:37:38+00:00

This is a non-objective, imaginary way to approach the issue. You can’t just magically find such a partner. And you can’t magically know someone meets those criteria at first sight. That would require entering an exclusive relationship with them.

Is every single couple on Earth just settling for each other because they couldn’t attain the person of their dreams?

Some people do in fact settle. But you don’t have to. You can find someone who is great for you. You and your lover can develop a great relationship together. You and your lover can change to be better for each other. Any other potential partner isn’t going to measure up. You won’t know they’d be better. They won’t have changed themselves for you and you wouldn’t have changed yourself for them. They won’t have the relationship history.

If you do find something that your current lover is lacking, that you didn’t know before, due to meeting someone new (let’s call her Jane), you could then see if you can get that from your existing lover. And, if you can’t, then you can decide how important that is to you. If it’s so important that you’d rather find someone else, then you find someone else. Maybe you try dating Jane, but it’s not a guarantee that Jane is good enough in other aspects that you can’t know before hand. But that’s what happens in relationships, people discover stuff they wanted that they didn’t know they

What woman would want to date me? There are a million more attractive, tall, rich men on the planet.

If you love is just a matter of physical attraction, height and wealth, then yeah you’d be screwed. But it’s not.

GGMcThroway · 2023-11-10T22:42:15+00:00

There's this thing called "attachment". Plus, status =/= quality as a lover.

What woman would want to date me? There are a million more attractive, tall, rich men on the planet. Will my wife just be with me because she couldn’t be with Chris Hemsworth? Is she just settling for me?

Sounds like you have attachment issues. If your wife leaves you, it'll probably because she doesn't want to be with a person who can't trust that she actually loves him.

Azihayya · 2023-11-10T23:29:35+00:00

Love becomes an aspect of your identity unlike many other things in your life. Being confident in who you are and reconciling the fact that exterior information won't change who you are, or what you feel, is an attractive quality to possess.

Life is, for many, not just a matter of gaining greater or more perfect material circumstances; it's an endeavor where you learn to care for and take care of people and things on a personal level.

Knowing that you love someone, and that they love you, and that nothing can change that, is something that many men and women want for themselves. It's an ideal that a lot of people aspire to, I think, even if many people find difficulty justifying it in their lives.

True love is a complex concept that I think we're still trying to define. It can obviously mean a lot of things--not just a monogamous commitment or loyalty. Oftentimes we define it in contrast to relationship paradigms that we know from the past; true love can be about loving the person that you're in a relationship to, not for their money or material circumstances, social or otherwise. Or it can mean loving someone outside of the purpose of reproducing.

Having faith in true love can be difficult because it's difficult to even define; but I think that most people experience something in their lives that they can associate with true love, whether that's in a sexual partnership or a familial relationship.

wtknight · 2023-11-10T23:31:00+00:00

I don't know about "true love", but one can certainly like a partner enough to be in love with and attached to that person and not just want to dump that person for the supposed next best thing that appears in one's life.

DecisionPlastic9740 · 2023-11-10T23:41:40+00:00

I'm loyal so I wouldn't.

Post-Posadism · 2023-11-10T23:57:50+00:00

We aren't static. All the time we are developing and changing and becoming - in varying directions - as people, and this development is often heavily influenced by those around us. Thus two people choosing to sync their development together may well over time intertwine them in terms of who they are and who they want, in many ways what they become being in part tailored to the other person within that relationship. Thus even if if a romantic prospect can almost always be outdone on the initial impression, once you have conditioned yourself somewhat to that person and they to you, they will be much more difficult to beat.

Happy_Nuclear_End · 2023-11-11T00:24:26+00:00

Only for Chad. If you're average you'll be the dancing monkey and for her POV you should be happy.

Eastern-Action1384 · 2023-11-11T01:09:37+00:00

It's real and it comes at a young age, while people are innocent. The older you get, the rare it becomes. Like go check dating over 30, girls and guys there talking about how to date and if he/she perfect for them. No one talk about love, it's about attraction and if they can tolerate the other half.

Willow-girl · 2023-11-11T01:21:31+00:00

Would you not dump your current partner to go be with this person instead?

No, because my current partner IS my dream partner!

TroidMemer · 2023-11-11T02:10:06+00:00

Bro why would I wanna ditch my girlfriend just because someone else ticks more boxes??? People who do that clearly have no concept of right and wrong.

TLDR; She would already be perfect because she would be MINE god dammit!!

Safinated · 2023-11-11T02:31:52+00:00

The world is indeed a big place and we have only a certain number of years to enjoy it. Finding a “perfect” partner is extremely unlikely, so most of us don’t put all of our time and effort and waiting and searching for perfection

baiser_vole · 2023-11-11T02:33:12+00:00

In my relationship, there are some conditions. If someone cheats, that's grounds for divorce for both of us. If he abuses my cat, I'd get rid of my boyfriend. If someone is truly being shitty person and/or a partner, neither of us will put up with that. But it doesn't sound like you are talking about an unconditional love/relationship thankfully.

I will be marrying my boyfriend pretty soon. You know the wedding vows. Neither of us are perfect people, but we have the attitude of "I'll do the best that I can. You just do the best that you can. I'm sure we would have everything covered and some more if we do. I believe in us." We both know each other's shortcomings, and we are more than happy to fill in for the other person. I'm not settling for him and neither is he.

obviously_anecdotal · 2023-11-11T04:44:37+00:00

Will my wife just be with me because she couldn’t be with Chris Hemsworth? Is she just settling for me?

Yes and no. You can't expect your wife to be blind; she will see other men and find them attractive. The point, is that she doesn't act on it. And if she does, it means she's a cheater or you're in a non-trad relationship. Same goes if the roles were reversed.

And of course she "settles". Do you think anyone would commit to 1 person for their life if they thought without a doubt that they could do better? Everybody settles. What matters is that you're not settling on your values, life goals and not hindering your partners life goals.

taxis-asocial · 2023-11-11T06:01:42+00:00

Imagine this. You dream partner. Fulfills EVERY wish you have in a partner. Sensual. Sexy. Charismatic.

Perfect.

Would you not dump your current partner to go be with this person instead?

You made up this hypothetical and it presupposes that you can just go find someone "perfect" which is a rather absurd presupposition. So sure, in your hypothetical made up world where a "perfect" partner exists and you haven't found them, maybe love is stupid.

pleasantldar · 2023-11-11T08:37:17+00:00

The only people who’ll say yes to this are those currently in overall disappointing relationships with people who aren’t compatible enough or who’ve exhibited low key unloving behavior long enough.

obviousredflag · 2023-11-11T12:28:16+00:00

Imagine this. You dream partner. Fulfills EVERY wish you have in a partner. Sensual. Sexy. Charismatic.

Perfect.

Would you not dump your current partner to go be with this person instead?

Why would a perfect person want to be with me? I don't have the value-budget to afford a person that fulfills every wish i have in a partner. And neither do you, or anyone else. We all just decide between sidegrades of partners of varying combination of traits of different price categories. Unless you just pick "the first person available", and actually spend some time dating and finding out your value ceiling and your own preferences and weightings of traits, chances are, if you think you are in a very good relationship, that this is already the maximum you can get for what you can afford. All other options are just sidegrades that don't make your life more fulfilled, just different. And in this scenario, a change of partners generally is a net negative, as the cost of breakup and all that goes with it, not just financially, is there and just a minor gain of a new initial "in love" stage is there to get.

If you could date Chris Hemsworth or date Emma Watson (with no negative consequences) wouldn’t you just dump your current partner right away?

But you couldn't. Or if you could, then your current partner would very likely be a sidegrade to Emma Watson or Chris Hemsworth already, or the both of them would never consider you.

Is every single couple on Earth just settling for each other because they couldn’t attain the person of their dreams? Is “Love” just fake?

You seem to have a very weird view of what "love" or "real love" is. Love is not about finding the person of your dreams. Love is a biochemical bonding mechanism between two people for the means of procreation and child rearing. There is nothing romantic about it. It's the way your brain drugs you to stay with a person and want to do the insane job of rearing a child for years by sacrificing most of your time and resources.

legendary_editor9464 · 2023-11-11T13:59:12+00:00

True love cannot exist without trust. And nowadays, you cannot trust anyone 100%.We are living in a world we’re we pretend to be understanding, caring, loving and that we are happy. But the truth is everyone is lying. We are not the way we showcase ourselves. We fear rejection and dislikes. We filter ourselves and hesitate to show the real we. We express ourselves the way others want us to see. Not the way we are. To find the right person, be the right person. To find the true love, be a true lover.

ItWasBrokenAlready · 2023-11-11T15:17:13+00:00

Fuck no he's family. It's like asking me if I'd trade my sister for a cooler sister.

That__EST · 2023-11-11T15:45:49+00:00

I think as humans we are more serially monogamous than life long monogamous. I think that if we could respect that and not base our self worth on our partner and their actions, life would be a lot better.

LadyLazarus2021 · 2023-11-11T16:28:50+00:00

Yes.

SupposedlySapiens · 2023-11-11T16:48:08+00:00

True love develops over time. There is no such thing as love at first sight. When two people consistently spend time together, when they share their experiences over time, their joys and their sorrows, trust and affection naturally start to build. But it takes time. This is why most modern relationships end in the 6-24 month range. They’re all based on infatuation and immediate gratification. As soon as one of the partners gets bored, or finds someone more shiny and exciting, off they go. And then as they continually cycle through one relationship after another, they wonder why they can’t find “true love.” It’s because they’re just bouncing around expecting to “find” love, when in reality it is something that can only be developed over time.

This is how arranged marriages work, and why they have been the most common and successful form of male-female pairing throughout history. People today have it entirely backwards. They think that love comes before commitment. They think that in order to commit to someone, you must be “in love” with them first. Realistically, throughout history and across a very diverse set of cultures, the opposite has proven to be true. Two people with a basic level of compatibility pair up, and over time, through closely sharing their lives together, romantic love develops and their bond grows ever stronger.

whatever8482 · 2023-11-11T18:18:00+00:00

creating an ideal partner in your head is so stupid. A real person will never live up to it or you'll never find them. If you try you whole life to find them you're going to ruin your emotions towards relationships after hundreds of dates/hookups.

wecovetwhatwesee · 2023-11-11T19:06:39+00:00

If your ideal partner was perfect in every way and you know they will treat you right, wouldn’t you just dump your current partner right away?

If you could date Chris Hemsworth or date Emma Watson (with no negative consequences) wouldn’t you just dump your current partner right away?

I don't think anyone who would trade in a decent partner thinking an "ideal" one is a hyper-busy entitled movie star is going to be happy, ever.

And that's 90% of what is wrong with people today.

We've again regressed into status and image when these things were parodies of themselves back in the 80's.

MateriallyAttatched · 2023-11-12T04:03:04+00:00

Unconditional love sure exists. You need to be realistic and ask yourself if you would stick by your partner if they got fat, covered in burn-scars, and were absolutely hideous and repulsive in every metric imaginable.

The issue is that people have all these criteria in terms of career and looks in dating. But once you lose those things, then you'll be left with the few people that actually love you without conditions.

Most relationships are mid. For example, there's one super chill girl whose relationship with her boyfriend seems like some normal high school sweethearts ass relationship on the surface. But if you look closer he's actually kind of lame fr and definitely not good enough for her. Reminds me of one of my guy friends whose girlfriend is way lamer than him. I honestly don't believe that either of them would be that interested in each other as platonic, same-sex friends.

No, you aren't in-love with them, you're just a simp bitch that's gonna lose interest once your hormones go back to normal…

Leicadrug6000 · 2023-11-12T08:07:09+00:00

I think certain aspects are required for love to flourish certainly I think money , men and women maintaining smv for example are very important . Sometimes socioeconomic reasons can really be more important than love itself. Everyone has different motivations for being in a relationship https://mindful-masculinity.org/2023/11/07/does-money-matter-in-relationships-a-socio-economic-analysis-of-moneysexual-market-value-and-pua/

Cherish_Lifee · 2023-11-12T20:49:35+00:00

"true love" as in disney love or an ideal love isnt real, just like world peace is an ideal that will probably never actually exist on this planet. humans in general try to chase ideals that can never actually be fully achieved and "true love" is one of them.

Title	Is true love even real…?
Author	SpeppyBoi1
Upvotes	23
Comments	123
Date	November 10, 2023 5:41 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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