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vhanyr · 2021-12-21T16:43:35+00:00

Really wish I knew about point 8 when I was younger, had a relationship I was in get real awkward after she knew I was a virgin.

Alonso81687 · 2021-12-21T17:25:49+00:00

"Located in rural Wisconsin" 😂 that was fucking gold. As a regular looking dude who is 5'7(Because height seems to be so negatively looked on my so many guys on here) this shit is spot on.

theprufeshanul · 2021-12-21T17:13:05+00:00

I KNEW there was a reason people went to Wisconsin.

MO_drps_knwldg · 2021-12-21T16:28:16+00:00

Great post. The one thing that helped me was to treat dating initially as practice/social experiment and to just be observant about things, with no additional expectations. Sounds like you’re taking the same approach in terms of being observant.

I wouldn’t view yourself as an ‘average guy’ though. That kind of mindset is self-limiting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ofmu2b/stop_viewing_yourself_as_a_normal_guy_if_you_dont/

AdriaN_46 · 2021-12-21T16:13:22+00:00

Avoided a relationship with a friend just to cherish the friendship. Later on I ve fell for her. When I confessed, Now she says she lacks the spark and wants friendship

bcool_returns · 2021-12-21T16:53:22+00:00

Solid post overall. However:

1) If a first date doesn't go to a second date, the most common reason is a lack of sexual/physical attraction. Have you ever had a pleasant first date with good convo and laughs to just be ghosted? Chances are she looked across the table for 5ish seconds and thought "not fucking this guy."

Attraction cuts deeper than pure looks. Looks get you in the door, for sure. But a dude who is physically attractive can undermine that by the way he carries himself, what he says and so on. Similarly, guys who are not as good looking can improve how women perceive them with attractive behavior, words, and belief systems.

Also attraction is more like a volume knob here than a light switch. Just because a woman finds you attractive doesn't mean she'll immediately jump your bones. In many cases, you still need to spend some time with her, build some connection and so on.

Finally, one major issue I see on various dating subs is dudes just not making moves when a door opens. I see these posts nearly daily. "Girl was sending me all these signals, I didn't make a move, and now she's not replying to my messages. What did I do wrong?!" Too many guys are either not seeing signs of interest or are and are afraid of rejection/being wrong etc. This passivity can also make her attraction fall off the cliff.

AngledLuffa · 2021-12-21T17:01:17+00:00

You already know the hole is low and the clit is located in rural Wisconsin.

Well, not this guy

LandscapeClear1630 · 2021-12-21T16:31:45+00:00

Also worth mentioning:

If you do fuck her, you don't owe her a relationship.

Communist_Mustache · 2021-12-21T16:36:14+00:00

Damn bruh

So like I am still pretty young, what can I do to make it into that top 25%

daddysgotanew · 2021-12-21T22:45:06+00:00

Walk on eggshells just to try to please some average looking roastie who thinks she better than you -

OR-

Stay single. It’s a lot better

Canadian-Seductioner · 2021-12-21T16:41:08+00:00

Or it's because it got too sexual and she felt weird about it after (if you're taking girls home at the end of the first date like I do). There's a fine line to straddle. Or maybe sex was all she was looking for, that's a possibility too. But yes, if you're not being flirty at all during the first date, she won't see you as a potential partner and as a result, will not agree to a second.
100%.
100%. If the date's going well, always invite the girl over to share some wine at yours. You'll be surprised how many of them say yes.
This is huge. Never let yourself start falling for a girl or taking her seriously until you've slept with her at least 3 times. Girls will change their mind about you on a dime, even if you've slept with them once or twice.
100%. Girls will ghost to protect themselves. Don't let it get to you. Just take the L, look back to see if there's something you can learn from to apply to the next girl, then move on.
Yeah that's cringey AF. The only time you should do that is if you've been dating for over 2 months.
Exactly. Don't lie about yourself, it will bite you in the ass down the line. Be confident and it won't bother them. If you're insecure about it, girls will be turned off.
Good point. This you should lie about. Also the opposite is true - i.e. if your lay count is high. You never want to tell a girl you've been with 50+ women. 30 is a good number as it shows you know what you're doing, but you're not a player.
100%. Once a girl has decided she's not into you, it's game over. Take the L and move on.
100%.

Great post bro, lots of good insights here.

Edit: I see a lot of people discussing my comment about #8. To clarify, I was talking about guys who have a lay count of 50+. If your lay count is less than 10, you don't want to be saying 30. Basically, the key is to say a number that's within the socially acceptable range (10-30), but still congruent to your identity. So if you're a player, say 30 or that you stopped counting at 30 and if you're less experienced, then say 10. If it's something in between, then you can be honest about it.

greenlight144000 · 2021-12-21T16:27:01+00:00

What if she asks you if you’re a virgin?

LeftinthePnW · 2021-12-21T18:27:03+00:00

Don’t escalate and then don’t follow thru. Never do this. Ever.

EnvironmentalRule525 · 2021-12-21T16:33:14+00:00

You got it man. Now become an above average guys. These problems will be a thing of the past.

Okaydog97 · 2021-12-21T18:28:05+00:00

Me regret not take advantage of girls as a average guy in the high school or 10 grade to 12 grade.

Who gave signs too me.

2021-12-21T18:32:24+00:00

Wisconsin? Are you saying the clit is imaginary or what?

AussieBrooks · 2021-12-22T04:06:25+00:00

so also don’t try to be Mr. Nice Guy to get sex either. Like OP said, girls like to fuck, they’ll know within the first 5 minutes if they want to or not. If no sex within a month, she simply isn’t in to you and you are “free food”

Aquix · 2021-12-21T17:58:55+00:00

If a first date doesn't go to a second date, the most common reason is a lack of sexual/physical attraction. Have you ever had a pleasant first date with good convo and laughs to just be ghosted?

Just wanted to add that another common reason for this is a lack of kino on the date (I think there's already inherent attraction if she's on a date with you to begin with). Some questions and things to consider:
- Did you try to touch her hands?
- Did you take opportunities to hold her arm in yours or place your hand on the small of her back?
- How did you greet her? (I like to give a relaxed hug with a cheek kiss if the opportunity allows).
- Rub feet?
- Are you seated opposite to her or beside her if at a cafe? If you're beside her, there's much more room for escalation through touching her thighs or kissing.
- If you're going for a walk, did you try to lift her up at some point? Did you dance? (you don't have to be an expert, just simple twirls and having fun). Did you lead her at all?

AtCloseRange94 · 2021-12-21T19:15:26+00:00

Also never mention mental illness of any kind.

LanterQ1 · 2021-12-22T01:40:08+00:00

The clit is located in rural Wisconsin... 🤣

2021-12-22T05:35:01+00:00

I am above average in looks, height, build, and lots of experience. Everything you say I experience.

#2 on your list is very smart and observant. If you don't have a lot of dating experience it is good to even go on dates with girls you aren't very attracted to just to get reps in. And you never know she may be cool and after a few drinks you have a certain chemistry that would make for a fun fling while you gain experience.

2021-12-22T11:45:44+00:00

I applied tule 8 when I lost my virginity. That girl is out there somewhere, having no idea what she took from me

2021-12-22T15:54:15+00:00

Sorry but as a girl I disagree with a lot of those 10 things/rules 😐

We love when u text us cute things like « I want to kiss u »

We don’t necessarily have more experience in dating than u

« Make moves on dates » well okay why not but don’t forget consent plz

There’s nothing wrong with being a virgin so be honest with us (and we will see it anyway)

And maybe just consider us as humans and not objects? OP saying « I’m not fucking this guy » in rule number 1 is really weird. We do not think like this and I really hope men don’t either. Maybe if you tried to actually get to know us during date we would want to see you again

dustyraisininacorner · 2021-12-21T17:07:03+00:00

To 6, sends creepy vibes and a total turn off

To 8, Inpersonally would like to know if my partner is a virgin rather than finding out in bed.

To 9, begging is pathetic and a huge turn off

JacobMoogberg69 · 2021-12-21T19:02:40+00:00

Focus only on what you want and don't try to get on the woman's program. Let them get on yours. Your only thought when going out should be "I WANT to get my dick sucked by a woman who is competent in bed and not annoying" (I know this eliminates 90% of women but whatever). Focus on that and make it your mantra. Never think about how to please them or get them to do anything. Just worry about what you want relentlessly.

desertdungarees · 2021-12-22T00:54:32+00:00

Yo, as much as dating IS difficult, going on dates is not. You will always be so much cooler than she is. She may make more money, be better travelled, better situated in her career, gets more attention from members of the opposite sex, and have a more supportive social network. But you are cooler. She won't engage you in conversation. 96% she didn't write the first message, didn't initiate the first date, didn't pick the place, didn't even know the joint existed, didn't show up on time, didn't dress appropriately for the weather, and she can't hold a fucking candle to your cool. You engage her like a pro, hang on her every word, follow up with open ended questions, tease her when she says meaningless bullshit like "it is what it is" or types meaningless texts like "lol".

Also, be the nicest, kindest, most well meaning motherfucker on the face of the planet.

THIS, fellas, is the only recipe for success. No excuse, I've another 3K or so right swipes before SOMEONE will even match with me...

christopherames · 2021-12-21T18:40:30+00:00

Number 1 is golden and something I recently figured out

Redis_Sara · 2021-12-21T19:27:19+00:00

The first one happen to me a couple of days ago, it was an amazing date we both had a really good time it’s just I don’t like having sex on the first date so I denied it and she completely ghosted me….

MisterAnybody · 2021-12-21T20:16:43+00:00

Great post. IMHO instead of putting all the efforts first in seduction, we should focus in building an attractive life, a body, confidence, improve our financial situation etc, work on that, and rest will came alone. Also having nightlife I think it's good, but remembering always to truly enjoying it, and not as a simple unpleasant inconvenience you have to go through. And when you have dates do not treat them well, not bad either. You have to make them put a bit effort in the interaction, you have to be a bit cheeky (without being an asshole). Those are my absolutely non-requested advices and my humble opinion based in my experience in the streets of Spain.

Shanbaceball · 2021-12-21T21:14:46+00:00

Best advice yet on this site.

This guy nailed every suggestion

tanya4215 · 2021-12-21T21:24:47+00:00

Genius. Please give all men this advice. As a woman, I thank you. 😊

SundaySermon · 2021-12-21T22:01:32+00:00

If a first date doesn't go to a second date, the most common reason is a lack of sexual/physical attraction. Have you ever had a pleasant first date with good convo and laughs to just be ghosted? Chances are she looked across the table for 5ish seconds and thought "not fucking this guy."

This is something I struggle with. I've been catcalled (by women), been eye-fucked by really good-looking ones, etc.

But I've had so many dates where I can tell it's just DOA. I think it's more about vibe than physical looks. I just don't know how to correct for that.

traybro · 2021-12-21T22:41:20+00:00

“Much more cruel” can you elaborate on number 5?

Czexxi · 2021-12-21T23:35:43+00:00

Ask yourself if any of these points would make a difference to you if a dude were trying to get with you. I'm an average-looking gay guy with a normal amount of insecurity and I've had an inordinate amount of sex in my life. I didn't get it by studying checklists. Try to assume the person you're trying to date has motivations not so different than you do. Nobody wants to feel like they are talking to somebody who just read a manual on how to get them into bed. Women are not inscrutable aliens from another dimension. This list is more likely to make you into a neurotic rather than a Don Juan.

ProdiLemaj · 2021-12-21T23:57:47+00:00

Solid advice here, and to add on to #9, all your arguing and pleading is actually just going to make you look even more weak and unattractive to her. You’re better off just accepting the rejection and moving on with your dignity intact.

Zukuto · 2021-12-22T00:15:34+00:00

furiously taking notes

... rural wisconsin...

nbh1995 · 2021-12-22T09:23:47+00:00

This is good stuff! dating as an average guy is fucking brutal. There is little to no room for mistakes.

I would say one of the main problems for me is taking the initiative sexually because I am afraid to come off as a rapist...but that fear leaves me extremely not confident physically...do you have any advice?

I also want to add that I have a lot of resentment towards what a lot of us where taught that you should be "nice" and stuff like that when in reality the opposite is what get people laid...

Help_Support-Account · 2021-12-21T17:32:47+00:00

Disagree on point 8 though.

When you are getting intimate with a girl and you have no experience I would tell her, because she will probably assume that you have experience which will backfire eventually. Since you have no experience you will most likely be bad. When you get intimate she will notice your lack of training, knowledge, experience and so on and just assume that you are a bad lay by default since you have had sex before in her mind. This will make her think that you are not able to improve upon your skills and loose interest.

All it comes down to in my opinion is timing and the way you tell her.

FactCheckYou · 2021-12-21T17:43:56+00:00

really good advice

TeslaNicole · 2021-12-21T17:36:34+00:00

I'm a better than average guy, and I usually get laid on the 1st date, meet up or whatever. What I find odd is how the girl to often get distant after we part ways when it went really well while we were actually together. Even if we spent an entire weekend or several days together alone, made out a lot and had lots of sex. Maybe I'm to busy with work etc, or maybe sometimes they see me as a player or wanting to much sex, but they always enjoy it when we're doing it. 🤷‍♂️

GreatScotRace · 2021-12-21T17:47:57+00:00

Re 1)

OR she just doesn’t like your personality? Doesn’t feel a spark with you?Wouldn’t go on a date with someone I wasn’t physically attracted to so is more likely your personality they dislike

iknowhowtodothejaj · 2021-12-22T12:50:18+00:00

this advice is kinda shit ngl

Adventurous_Card_144 · 2021-12-22T00:34:24+00:00

8 is wrong. The rest mostly ok.

Do tell her you are a virgin if she asks, just joke about it "Yeah im a virgo lol", "Im so virgin". Own it, the thing that is fucking you up is not being a virgin, is you making a big deal out of it.

5 is either your game just sucks and you are not there yet, or something completely unrelated. Sometimes is not something "cruel" is you just need to level up. Have had girls rejected me just to landblast them 6 months after lvling up.

frecklerat · 2021-12-21T18:51:26+00:00

there’s a few things i don’t love about this post but firstly VIRGINS please tell your first partner!!!!!!!! don’t listen to this guy omg. i’m a chick and i’ve taken 3. one of them didn’t tell me until we were done. i really think that if he did tell me we could have had an even better time. if you don’t tell your partner they will assume you know what you’re doing, and if you don’t then they’ll think you’re just bad at sex!! being with a virgin is not a big deal but you don’t want to treat that situation the exact same as a random hookup. it’s not the same. & don’t be embarrassed if it’s ur first time, everyone had a first time.

keyson5 · 2021-12-21T17:38:33+00:00

I disagree on 8, the rest is cool

_HEDONISM_BOT · 2021-12-21T19:04:35+00:00

The virgin thing is just men making fun of other men. A lot of women actually think it's cute that a guy isn't a fuckboy who's sleeping around trying to fuck anything that moves.

temtuun · 2021-12-21T17:42:32+00:00

As a woman with a decent amount of experience ranging from awkward virgins to confident players, I’m gonna say that a lot of this is very solid advice but I just wanna add some things that might help.

Stop saying “girls.” You sound like a man-child who left his prime back in high school. (“Females” sounds like an incel, which is worse.) You’re not a teen, you’re a grown man. It’s like how the way you dress can affect your posture and attitude, so talk like a big boy. Not trying to diss, but to warn. Even if you can watch your tongue on the date, when a guy talks like that, it shows.
To the people trying to determine the right “body count” to say, there isn’t one. If you’re asked whether you’re a virgin, that might be one thing. But if you’re being asked how many sexual partners you had, odds are she’s trying to gauge the likelihood of you giving her an std, not your EXP points in sex. Be a decent and responsible adult and get tested regularly so you can honestly tell her you’re clean and safe.

SithLordJediMaster · 2021-12-21T16:46:38+00:00

Problem with #3 is Females always complain about how guys only want sex.

A lot of the posts by females on reddit complain that they go on a date with a guy but the guy makes a move and so "He only wants sex when I want romance"

Wilcard30 · 2021-12-21T23:51:36+00:00

Rule 11 - every girl is different and you need to adapt and learn to think on your feet. Throw out rules 1-10

thespacegoatscoat · 2021-12-22T03:05:42+00:00

This is just terrible and awful advice.

Y’all are gross. This is not the right way.

KrikoryanG · 2021-12-21T18:31:35+00:00

Great post!

comfyworm · 2021-12-21T21:31:13+00:00

Do you really think she won’t know you’re a virgin if you just try and do what you’ve seen in porn to her?

lequanghai · 2021-12-22T03:59:45+00:00

As a 5ft5 Asian guy and balding, no chance for me. I'm out of this game.

skatinislife446 · 2021-12-21T16:55:43+00:00

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jdogg692021 · 2021-12-22T07:43:57+00:00

Look if u r young and dumb or just scared of women. Just pretend it's a Baseball Game and u must score as fast possible. U know first base (kiss) second base (feel up) third base (finger) home plate (score). Edit I was gonna put "arouse" for third base but I didn't want to confuse the slow kids. ha ha

not_shajal · 2021-12-21T18:39:40+00:00

Iv been to rural Wisconsin too many times and I didn't even know it.

hookedonfonicsmunky · 2021-12-21T18:50:39+00:00

Hahaha dude, make moves as soon as possible? i'm not trying to join the 97 percent this soon hahahahah lmfaooooo

BlazeTrinity · 2021-12-21T20:00:52+00:00

Any tips or scenarios for point number 3?

willgo-waggins · 2021-12-21T20:16:32+00:00

This is good stuff. It’s like I’m looking at one of my own posts actually. Also a good reminder because I’d made a couple of mistakes last few months because of my own issues I needed to work through.

Thanks for the reminder to keep myself straight!

aspirationalsoul · 2021-12-21T20:18:19+00:00

Point 8 is so interesting to me. Why do you think it makes such a big difference? Had something go a bit sour after mentioning this, despite the fact that she told me she came 4 times.

Clara_Dolls · 2021-12-21T20:37:48+00:00

4 is good advice for everyone.

buzzerhoops · 2021-12-21T20:50:49+00:00

Spiridor · 2021-12-21T21:08:05+00:00

Most of this is based.

Dakessian · 2021-12-21T21:19:51+00:00

Perfect, I’m doing pretty well then.

Illegal_Yak666 · 2021-12-21T22:30:03+00:00

Fuck I wish I could just get past number 3. I always wait for the perfect moment to not seem creepy/pushy but by the time the date is over, I realize when I should have done it. In hindsight, I could tell the girl wanted me to make a move and I always kick myself for not doing it.

ChewieLvr · 2021-12-21T22:34:45+00:00

From a woman’s point of view this could actually work for both sexes. These are really valid and honestly great points to consider while dating. Thank you for sharing

itsonlybliss · 2021-12-21T22:54:07+00:00

Now this is as if you get dates

SplashOfBlack2020 · 2021-12-21T23:01:22+00:00

Agreed!

Moorning_wood · 2021-12-21T23:05:39+00:00

You are a smart man. Well spoken.

AdorableEagle · 2021-12-21T23:07:05+00:00

1) and 3) is the most important thing in dating.

Benbig_ppdover · 2021-12-21T23:09:48+00:00

no. 4 hit me hard. Need to be more heartless tbh

creativeoutlaw44 · 2021-12-21T23:22:24+00:00

"You already know the hole is low and the clit is located in rural Wisconsin."

No fucking wonder I've continued to strike out. Tickets to fly to Wisconsin are INSANE these days!

FUCK ME IN THE ASS WITH A RUBBER HOSE!

whotfiswho_ · 2021-12-22T00:11:26+00:00

Number 6 ties into number 3 so much. I’ve fumbled that way. Never again.

EggoGF · 2021-12-22T00:12:03+00:00

…it’s in rural Wisconsin all this time? Damn it!

nucca35 · 2021-12-22T00:16:18+00:00

I agree with #2 but there’s a whole lot of people who will fight as hard as they can to say that it isn’t true lol.

2021-12-22T00:22:11+00:00

Everything on this list is factual, good post

Joe_Doblow · 2021-12-22T00:53:30+00:00

I don’t think inexperience is a turn off to normal people. Lack of confidence and boredom is. If I’m lost in the woods with someone and make it fun then it’s fun whether you know the way or not

Dark_itachi · 2021-12-22T01:48:56+00:00

Dang in a way brother spat hard facts lmao!😂

3SidedDie · 2021-12-22T01:56:06+00:00

Well, I did 8 when I still had my ex girlfriend. Then one day I told her (after we had had sex 2 or 3 times before) and she suddenly was pissed of. She kept asking "why didnt you told me?". To this day I have no idea why this was so important to her.

CoolKid2326 · 2021-12-22T03:13:20+00:00

spot on post

Clarencekaant · 2021-12-22T04:55:14+00:00

Why would number 6 give her anxiety

theseoulplayer · 2021-12-22T05:08:00+00:00

#9 was one I had to learn the hard way. Multiple times. There were even times when I thought that it worked, we decided to 'stay together' - but all it did was end up compounding the previous problems and extending the pain. Once someone has decided that the relationship is over, it's over.

mrville502 · 2021-12-22T05:38:26+00:00

This shit is hitting home a little bit tonite. As in I have kinda been lying to myself about a girl I have been dating.

kapshot666 · 2021-12-22T06:49:54+00:00

Seems to complicated then

mexicoke68 · 2021-12-22T06:59:55+00:00

Great post and excellent advice. Agree with pretty much everything you said

-BiG_T- · 2021-12-22T07:11:24+00:00

I never knew the hole was lower 😂😂 made for a funny time

Flexitarian25 · 2021-12-22T07:39:08+00:00

Thank you for point 5.

cronasminate · 2021-12-22T09:12:51+00:00

The top 25 percent of guys have a lot of dating experience, and most women have a lot of dating experience from dating those guys. So if you're dating a cute girl, as an average guy, she simply knows a lot more than you do. She's been in these woods 20 times already whereas you're trying not to get lost.

It's crazy how true this is. I had an fwb that I would rate 7 on a typical day and an 8 on a good day. She's above average but not crazy hot. The pictures she showed me of all the dudes she dated and her orbiters literally just looked like male models.

The guys who basically threw their life away to serve as her personal lapdogs were at the very least good looking. I've seen very attractive girls who dated average looking guys and it just shows she has a different taste and value different things. This chick happens to like good looking guys so everyone around her was good looking.

This is why you need to know the type of girl you are going for and whether you rank at the top of a specific attribute she is looking for, otherwise you will be left becoming some average chicks simp.

Glad_Scientist_9892 · 2021-12-22T09:17:10+00:00

I’m a woman and from my perspective, I have to agree. Especially the kissing part

universalvoid87 · 2021-12-22T12:29:08+00:00

What’s your lay count (as an average guy)? And why do you define yourself as average?

sendindaninja · 2021-12-22T14:30:41+00:00

Tbh, dating is dating, these rules really don't matter if it's about seduction...i.e. horizontal mambo time...

This would probably be in relationship advice...

MikeRowWave · 2021-12-22T22:57:10+00:00

Suggestions to correct:

a. Make the first date an adventurous date, for example, like mountain climbing if you're an outdoors person. Or if you're not adventurous, something like a trip to a zoo or museum works too, depending on interests you share. b. Make the second date a public date, for example, a gathering where you introduce her to your friends; at this stage, you're still new to her but your friends are even more stranger so she'll stick closer to you at times. c. The third date is the intimate date - I recommend inviting her over for dinner, then go for an evening stroll afterwards.
Regarding texts, look up when to text back promptly and when you should delay replying and for how long.
True, but practice makes perfect. Even if you bought one of those kit courses on pick up arts - one that offers a money back guarantee and gets raves of reviews - there is not a single course out there that does magic. Even with the know-how in your head, it's a sharp learning curve and you are still expected to practice, screw up (at first), and learn from your mistakes. If you find that confidence is an issue, try joining a public speaking club like Toastmasters.
For #5, get her number and leave when the conversation is at its best/peak rather than let it wind-down. Let her know you have to go but you'd like to continue the conversation some other time so "why don't you give me your number" (as opposed to "can I get your number").

Comments:

Look up three second rule.
Very common mistake. If you focus on just one target, you're almost guaranteed to fail.
That's obvious. If you think she will eventually live you, consider the fact that she will see all your lies if you get that far.
No need to even mention it if all goes well.
Actually, if done right, you can. PU techniques are not one-size-fits-all.

_An_Idiot_With_Time_ · 2021-12-23T02:30:36+00:00

I’ve never heard of Wisconsin…

hyxhufchy66666666 · 2021-12-24T22:04:22+00:00

Oh no, you’ve confirmed that looks are extremely important to women. I’ll be waiting to see how long this stays up/

Berlinase · 2021-12-26T11:26:22+00:00

That’s pretty much every mistake I made in my last dates. Yikes.

BabyTakeItEasy · 2021-12-27T22:57:55+00:00

Commenting on each of these as a 23F who has had two long-term relationships total (currently in one) and some dating experience:

Absolutely. I can remember a time when within the first 10 seconds I just knew in my heart I wouldn't be able to see this guy romantically/sexually. Nice looking guy, just I couldn't feel the attraction. The date still lasted like 5 or 6 hours, I had a pleasant day with him.
Maybe, I'm not overly cute so I was definitely lost myself. This is where "date within your league" probably helps?
DEFINITELY DEPENDS ON GIRL'S COMFORTABILITY AND CONTEXT. If the guy I mentioned previously tried to pull a sexual move on me, I would have been extremely uncomfortable. If the girl is clearly into you, then yes, sexual confidence is a turn-on.
100% agree. Don't fall in love with the idea of someone. Always remember how unreliable humans are and that they don't technically owe you their permanent presence in your life.
Yep! In all things in life, you have to make your own closure. Even if you know the sugarcoated rejections are not the reason she broke things off, accept them and move on.
Another big agree here, in early days of dating anyway. A good relationship takes time to build if you want a solid one. Make yourself a limited/scarce resource. The scarcity principle would argue that if you're not as available (read: throwing yourself at her), she'll find you more attractive. Really, just chill out. You can save all that sappy stuff for when the relationship is more solid.
Yes, never operate anything based on lies. It will ALWAYS end in disaster. It may make her question the legitimacy of any other information you've given her. I wouldn't have a problem hearing someone is living at home with their mom still (granted, it's not uncommon in my culture for people in their early 30s to still be at the home place). If it's something you're embarrassed of, I think the best thing is to show that you're aware that the situation isn't ideal and that you're actively taking measures to fix the issue.
Don't agree with this. Number one, true learning is in doing, not in hearing about/watching. Don't get me wrong, it of course helps. I wouldn't care if a guy told me he's a virgin. Far better than being a fuckboy to me. I'd only be worried if down the line he'd want to sleep with other people. But that's an issue which can be communicated about.
Totally agree. People operate on emotions, not logic. Don't use logic to make her see what she's missing out on. Move on respectfully, show good grace and emotional maturity. That incidentally may be the one thing to make her change her mind.
Big yes. There's no success like failure. Take this new experience with you to further experiences. You're going to be just fine.

gilles_de_rias · 2021-12-29T16:16:51+00:00

Tf is wrong being a virgin

Ok_Ingenuity9277 · 2021-12-29T17:58:38+00:00

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