The 18 year old girl who hit and killed 2 kids in a pile of leaves, then drove off and covered up the evidence will not serve any jail time. Her boyfriend on the other hand gets prison time for helping to cover up the evidence.

Apellosine · 2014-02-01T05:15:40+00:00

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Clauderoughly · 2014-02-01T06:08:41+00:00

This is business as usual.

This is why you should NEVER EVER white knight for women. If the system can punish a man, it will.

Funcuz · 2014-02-01T08:28:45+00:00

At first I thought "That's insane !" Then I realized that no , actually , it's not as discriminatory as it first appears. The crime here , once all was said and done , was trying to hide what happened. It was an accident otherwise.

I don't agree that she's guiltless here mind you. I just happen to agree that the greater crime here was trying to hide her guilt. The kids were hit and that's terrible but it wasn't on purpose or due to recklessness.

maako1328 · 2014-02-01T22:25:37+00:00

I'm probably going to get down voted for being devils advocate but let me say this. While you may feel the sentencing is biased toward the male gender, majority of you are over looking the facts in this case by pure ban wagon sexism. It was clearly proven and stated that she didnt find out about this until she heard it on the news. This put her in a state of shock, despair, and fear. The parents were negligent and allowed the children to play in the road AT NIGHT unattended. The man who should have been in a clear state of mind intentionally tried to obscure justice and facts. Her psyche was warped and she went a long with HIS plan. Even if the courts tried to pin something on her ultimately it would have been dismissed as it can be proven that upon finding out what happened she was not in a sane rational state of mind. There is no sexism here and had he taken her to the police station to get it all sorted out, no harm and no foul would have happened (besides 2 irresponsible parents).

c0mputar · 2014-02-01T06:53:08+00:00

The guy didn't cry on the stand, he is clearly without remorse, so throw him into the slammer.

HalfysReddit · 2014-02-01T17:10:02+00:00

Alright let's not jump to conclusions here, this seems sort of fucked up but consider all of this:

the kids were in a pile of leaves in the street
the boyfriend tried to cover it up without her, it doesn't mention whether or not she consented to him trying to cover it up. I do imagine she asked him to or at least consented, and should share some guilt in this.
she may be deported over this

Jjameyson · 2014-02-01T14:44:13+00:00

So he does the honorable thing and pleads guilty - and is punished? Disgusting.

EDIT: I didn't say "smart".

2014-02-01T20:11:13+00:00

Before we get all up in arms about sentencing discrimination, the crimes are different, she went to trial and he took a plea deal.

While it's true that they went incredibly easy on her relative to the boyfriend, from a legal perspective, she isn't guilty of hitting the children on purpose, and the laws requiring a driver to respond aren't as serious as laws which make it illegal to destroy evidence.

What I don't get though, is the boyfriend was only knowingly destroying evidence if he knew she had hit the children, which means she told him. Furthermore if it was her car, did she tell him to wash it without additional information, did he wash it voluntarily after they discussed the situation, or did he wash it voluntarily without any knowledge of the accident.

I'm inclined to say the second case is most likely. The first case he shouldn't be guilty of anything, and the last case means he had full access to the car.

What really matters to me is the lead-up to washing the car. If she informed him that she hit the kids, gave him the keys and told him to wash the car, then I think she is an accomplice to destroying evidence. If he did it on his own, then that's different.

Remember guys, destroying or tampering with evidence is a serious crime, even more serious than accidentally killing someone in the absence of negligent behavior, or failing to stick around until police come.

Both of these people committed crimes, and both of them should be punished legally, it's just somewhat counter-intuitive that the person who intentionally broke the law to cover up a crime receives a more severe punishment than the person who actually committed that crime, but you have to look at the context.

apathos_destroys · 2014-02-01T07:11:45+00:00

Sad thing is, she'll probably leave her boyfriend within a couple months of him being locked up ... lesson learned: if a woman needs your help for anything that remotely sounds illegal, don't do it. Chances are, you're the fall-guy

droterse · 2014-02-01T16:10:33+00:00

white cis male privilege yet again!

Akesgeroth · 2014-02-01T13:28:33+00:00

He gets jail time while she gets off with a slap on the finger because women aren't the mental equals of men.

^

This is what you should be telling everyone each time such a sentence happens. And when people get angry, ask them what other defense they have for the women getting shorter sentences.

SuperKamiGuru34 · 2014-02-01T07:48:24+00:00

It's sad that I didn't even have to finish reading the title to know what happened.

lemmepukerightquick · 2014-02-01T08:29:17+00:00

This is fucking disgusting

davidcwilliams · 2014-02-01T11:36:48+00:00

This is so sad. I am unable to look past how sad this is, in order to discuss the sexual inequality.

femdelusion · 2014-02-01T12:35:22+00:00

Just curious, let's say you run over some kids hidden in a box or pile of leaves or something in the middle of the road. You stop to see what's up, and they're dead. You call 911 obviously. What kind of trouble are you looking at?

Bukkake_Monster · 2014-02-01T15:24:59+00:00

Patriarchy!

adamwizzy · 2014-02-01T19:51:27+00:00

I'm going to go out on a limb and say something contrary to popular thought here.

The sentencing was just. The boyfriend knew he was covering up for a vehicular manslaughter (regardless of how it was commuted) however the girl got unlucky driving over a pile of leaves and then got scared.

However if the driver had been a man I doubt the family and judicial system would have been as kind to him.

2014-02-01T21:58:31+00:00

This is so sad. I live in Forest Grove and this actually happened right outside my house. Here's my post about that night in /r/oregon about it ~3 months ago.

Abd-el-Hazred · 2014-02-01T23:08:21+00:00

Wow, this thread made me unsubscribe. I've been browsing this subreddit for a while and often people here are logical and care about real problems but this is a stupid witch hunt and has shown me how many of you do the exact same thing that you so despise, namely playing the victim card. So many people take this article and just interpret it in a way that fits their narative. There are many legitimate issues that could be discussed in this subreddit but this it not one of them. I still care about mens rights but do not wish to be associated with the majority of people here. Good bye.

barontadhg · 2014-02-01T06:29:07+00:00

This pissed me off. The only thing that made sense was that Maybe the boyfriend had a criminal record, but it didn't say.

just_an_ordinary_guy · 2014-02-01T08:20:33+00:00

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lonesomecloud · 2014-02-01T13:32:42+00:00

Honestly, I don't think this has anything to do with him being a man

PortalesoONR · 2014-02-01T22:16:09+00:00

Abigail and Anna had been playing in leaves along a roadway near their home in the 1700 block of Main Street when they were struck around 8:30 p.m., according to Capt. Mike Herb with the Forest Grove Police Department. Herb said the driver may not have realized the girls were struck. Monday was "Leaf Day" in the community and leaves were piled high along the streets.

White knigts jumping to conclusions without even know what happened .

Jkashat · 2014-02-01T08:57:15+00:00

This honestly makes me so livid that this is the first time I have every actually felt the need to comment on a post. I can even put my feelings into words right now

2014-02-01T13:41:59+00:00

I wanted to call bullshit on the outrage but seriously they're going to do a whole video of nothing but this chick & the mom crying & not even mention the boyfriend or why the boyfriend received jail time? Did he go back after & cover it up? Did he just happen to be in the car at the time? WTF

HaroldOfTheRocks · 2014-02-01T14:51:23+00:00

Hyphenated last names run amok. I had to read that thing three times to figure out who was who.

peachesgp · 2014-02-01T16:06:57+00:00

It doesn't actually say that she covered up evidence, he took the car and got it cleaned. Title is misleading.

runslowfox · 2014-02-01T16:54:59+00:00

UNFUCKINGbelievable! "All I wanted was for you to say sorry, thank you" you have to be out of your FUCKING mind top say that shit to this stupid heartless cunt of a woman! She didn't give a shit about those kids, she knew what she hit! She is only sorry now that she got caught. Stupid cunt should rot in jail!

browhodouknowhere · 2014-02-01T17:17:09+00:00

Dafuq?

Ma99ie · 2014-02-01T18:50:59+00:00

Un. Fucking. Believable.

ben0wn4g3 · 2014-02-01T19:27:51+00:00

tiny little paragraph on it too

iseetrolledpeople · 2014-02-01T22:21:56+00:00

wat?

2014-02-02T00:29:10+00:00

Why were two kids in a pile of leaves. What the fuck.

JayBopara · 2014-02-02T01:58:18+00:00

This is truly insane, if anyone needs a better example of sentencing discrimination and misandry this is the case. A woman does the killing yet receives no jail time, yet the man who does no killing is sentenced to jail for more than a year. Insane.

malvoliosf · 2014-02-02T03:56:08+00:00

Uh, I don't see any accusation that she covered up evidence (except in your title). Boyfriend, on the other hand, washed the car on purpose, specifically to obstruct justice.

HalfysReddit · 2014-02-02T20:13:28+00:00

Blowing shit like this out of proportion is why so many people won't take this movement seriously.

2014-02-02T21:43:41+00:00

And that's why only fucking morons drive their cars through leaf piles

kragshot · 2014-02-03T04:40:35+00:00

First things first; you never take a plea bargain that includes actual jail time. Never.

Take your chances with the trial because a plea bargain is almost always going to screw you over. In addition, once you are incarcerated, it is easy for them to come up with a way to keep you in. Screw the plea bargain and just have your day in court.

tawtaw · 2014-02-25T09:40:09+00:00

One of the highest voted posts this month, but herp derp what are plea deals?

And you guys wonder why other subs think you deal in categorical thinking.

2014-02-01T13:44:02+00:00

/r/pussypass

emperorhirohito · 2014-02-01T11:44:19+00:00

This is the epitome of pussy pass.

No_Nrg · 2014-02-01T15:49:06+00:00

This is the correct conclusion you idiots. She didn't know she hit kids or people. She knew there was something but it could have been pumpkins from Halloween. The boyfriend found out what was going on before her and covered it up.

TibsChris · 2014-02-01T22:55:55+00:00

"Helping to cover up the evidence."

This implied she knew she injured someone, and tried to cover it up. And yet, only the boyfriend gets jail time.

This is why we have this subreddit!

(sorry for the Rear Admiral Obvious post, but I'm just... floored)

ANakedBear · 2014-02-01T12:14:48+00:00

So, to be honest here, I feel that the right thing was done.

The girls were playing in the street. That is basically parenting 101. The diver is careless, not a criminal.

If the guy tells people that he is destroying evidence...

VW_Factor · 2014-02-01T12:43:11+00:00

Misleading title. Its not an accurate representation of what actually happened.

johnny_gunn · 2014-02-01T12:18:29+00:00

Are you people all retarded?

What she did was an accident - she doesn't deserve to go to jail for something that could have happened to anyone.

What the boyfriend did was deliberate destruction of evidence.

lordslag · 2014-02-01T09:00:59+00:00

...and then, without ANY sense of irony at all, women whine: WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MEN GONE!! BEWHOO!

Fucking disgusting. Yeah, misandry don't realz tho, riite?

kaithekender · 2014-02-01T08:36:33+00:00

You guys must have missed the part where it said

"On Friday, the judge took the wishes of the victims' family into account when the sentence was handed down. "

"I'm sorry I accidentally ran over your children" sounds a lot more meaningful than "I'm sorry I accidentally tried to cover up the evidence that my girlfriend ran over your children"

2 separate crimes, 2 separate sentences. It is impossible for there to be a sentencing discrepancy here because her crime was accidental, his was done with intent. She accidentally committed a crime, he intentionally did.

gamingonly · 2014-02-01T15:10:17+00:00

So anyone can get off running someone over now, using this case as precedent right ? Run someone over, say you thought it was a rock because you didn't see it as you were texting. Then plead guilty to careless driving and just pay some fine.

mrdoctorpresident · 2014-02-01T17:44:29+00:00

This is a non issue. First of all you feel bad for the parents? No child should be allowed to play in leaves that are sitting on the side of the road, that's idiotic. Secondly the woman got punished, she's on probation. The man is in jail because he's the one who took the car and got it washed in an attempt to destroy evidence. If she had, she would be in jail. Lets not create issues, we don't want to turn into feminists, do we?

Edited for sausage fingers on an ipad

cryptobomb · 2014-02-01T20:01:47+00:00

You people are fucking retarded. She didn't know she did. That's that.

He, however, knowingly tried to cover it up. That's that.

You idiots need to slap yourselves with your stupid pussy pass shit.

giegerwasright · 2014-02-01T20:38:40+00:00

My first reaction when reading the story went something like this;

18 year old girl accidentally runs over 2 kids hiding in a pile of leaves

Ohhhh, man... that poor girl, those poor kids, their poor families...

Bitch then ran off and tried to hide it

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you serious? Two fucking kids are dead and you're going to hide your role in it?

Bitch gets off without jailtime, but her lackey goes to prison

This can't be fucking reality. Oh. Wait. Right. Pussypass.

(Oh nooooooo!!! He called a woman who attempted to conceal her role in vehicular manslaughter a bitch! Oh nooosies! Let's point out that he used a wordsy and claim that that means nothing he said is true! Let's throwsies a tantrumsies because he usie wordsie me no likey! To describe someone who fits the fucking description! Me hazzies derailboner!)

Calamanation · 2014-02-01T18:25:40+00:00

This doesn't seem complicated at all, she hit 2 kids drove away, he noticed blood smears cleaned the car... he gets 13 months because he covered up a crime she gets probation because she was sorry did I miss anything?

LucasTrask · 2014-02-01T14:00:49+00:00

First off, lying to the prosection and destruction of evidence is one of those crimes that the court is very harsh on because being lenient on it sets a dangerous precedent for crimes like murder. Also from the articles information it was the family who convinced the judge to lower the sentence. Also know the girl has to live with the knowledge that she murdered two little kids, and is now potentially facing deportation that's a pretty big punishment. But again destroying evidence is a big big big deal and it makes a ton of sense that the man is serving prison time while she isnt.

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