Why do great men engage in such misogyny?

Sure_Tourist1088 · 2024-05-10T14:52:05+00:00

What follows are quotes from some of the greatest human minds to ever live. Why did they all come to similarly unfortunate conclusions in regard to women?...

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“ Ms. Vincent practiced another feat of immersive journalism for her next book, “Voluntary Madness: My Year Lost and Found in the Loony Bin” (2008).”

“In 2013, Ms. Vincent began a new novel, “Adeline,” in which she imagined the inner life of Virginia Woolf from the moment Woolf conceived her novel “To the Lighthouse” — in her bathtub — to the morning in 1941 when she walked into the river near her home in Sussex, England, her pockets filled with stones, and drowned. As Ms. Vincent was working on the book, she tried to kill herself.”

Her book “Self-Made Man” was the most famous of three ill-advised forays into madness, but she was already there. Suffered depression throughout her life. The experiment started in 2003, published in 2006. She died in 2022

Stop this.

Each of her adventures caused a mental break.

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Because they leave a lot out and literally said the cause of her suicide was because of her experiences as a man?

You do realize she was MRA activist and spent most of her life after that book fighting for men’s rights as a men’s right activist? The books she wrote was only a small part of her life, yet you treat her as if she was only the book. So therefore her experiences as a man could not haunt

The truth is she never mentally recovered from her experiences as a man. I have even watched countless videos of her over the years of her talking about it a decade later. Yet you just ignore her as a human.

You can say “but but other issues matter” but you are really saying “she has other issues, so the issues she had that I do not like are not the cause of her death.” You are just a fraud trying to win an argument for the sake of the argument.

I mean the link you gave me flat out says she killed herself from her experiences as a man. Flat out says that. And you have to ignore that to give your dishonest argument merit.

No matter how you backpedal, a large part of her choice to commit suicide is because of her experiences as a man.

Her having other issues, does not change that fact.

[–]Sharp_Engineering3792 points 2 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The article you dismissed because of the source does not “literally” say anything like that. The offhand remark “at the cost of her mental health” alludes to her book, which is the only writing she achieved any notoriety for.

The foray into mental health institutions while pretending about of institutional quality mental illnesses and taking meds and treatments she did not need more likely caused far more damage than a lesbian LARPing as a dude.

The narrative that she killed herself because living as a man was so mentally taxing is an MRA fabrication, utter horseshit.

There is no way a rational or logical man reckons her most recognized and successful work led to her suicide twenty years later. You know, the same effort which is highly criticized as an ineffective and unscientific experiment and a real gamble for a woman who was already admittedly mentally ill and contrarian.

Masc lesbians live every day as male or neutral-presenting figures and they aren’t killing themselves left and right because “it’s so hard to be a man”.

I’m done with this conversation, not wasting anymore time on probably false claims and MRA histrionics.

[–]Critical_Corner_1859the woman who makes your girl finish 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Well thank you for your input but you grossly diverted from our topic.

Yes and no. I will be treated like a monster more so than men are. I'll be seen as inherently predatory. I've never had fulfilling female friendships because of that. Men have gotten away with much worse things than what I "did".

Yes, it is a skill issue to not be able to attract a mate. Men aren't seen as tools at all, but being an incapable, useless pos won't help you when it comes to socializing.

Women are objectified just as much by men, if not more. At least that what I've noticed when looking at it from outside.

I identified as trans for a while and dated women. More than a year to be specific. Definitely didn't feel like killing myself. One very specific and out of the ordinary story doesn't tell me jackshit about the objective truth, how relationships work and how female-male interactions work.

I did have much less success when I identified as a man when dating, that's for sure. Might be because men are typically unnapealing sexually. Or because I was an awkward teenager at that stage. Who knows.

No I wouldn't and this "pity me already!!" Game is pathetic. No wonder people who act this way don't get female company.

pretty much all men who have half decent personalities that I know have girlfriends. All it took was some grooming, some gym, and a few practice girls beforehand.

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I identified as trans for a while and dated women. More than a year to be specific. Definitely didn't feel like killing myself. One very specific and out of the ordinary story doesn't tell me jackshit about the objective truth, how relationships work and how female-male interactions work.

Being trans does not mean you get treated like a man is. Trans men get treated differently, you have to go all the way.

Yes, it is a skill issue to not be able to attract a mate. Men aren't seen as tools at all, but being an incapable, useless pos won't help you when it comes to socializing.

“Men are not seen as tools, but not being a useful tool won’t help you when it comes to others accepting you.”

Yes and no. I will be treated like a monster more so than men are. I'll be seen as inherently predatory. I've never had fulfilling female friendships because of that. Men have gotten away with much worse things than what I "did".

According to your own logic, that would mean you have a “skill issue” here. Men get away with much more because you just lack the charm and charisma men have, you are just inferior…right?

[–]Critical_Corner_1859the woman who makes your girl finish 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"I have to go all the way"

Yeah I certainly cannot magically do that. There's no swap gender potion around.

You know I don't have to go all the way. You just cannot admit that I'm right. Men get treated with respect. Losers get treated badly.

Twisting my words to fit your narrative won't work on me. I said exactly what I said, and it should be taken as such. Being a loser isn't a good look. This is for both men and women.

Yes it was also a "skill issue" on my part. Young teenagers often have a hard time in social interactions. I didn't understand that my sexuality made them uncomfortable, or couldn't accept it. I now take precautions around straight women so no one feels uncomfortable. Ofcourse some people will just be homophobic just because, and that's ok, because I'm not forced by anyone to interact with them.

Plenty of men are pretty charismatic, more than I am, or less than I am. That doesn't matter. The fact of the matter was that the game isn't fair, and it isn't supposed to be. I can't act like a man, and I can't act like a straight woman.

You seem to be extremely deep into your victim mindset. This will make you look like a loser. Again, skill issue :)

I'm definitely inferior to a lot of men. Plenty of them are great. Especially the ones who don't bitch and moan all the time, the ones who aren't losers, and the ones who don't constantly put themselves in the victim position. Cheers!

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You know I don't have to go all the way. You just cannot admit that I'm right.

You are right, I cannot admit someone who is wrong is right.

Men get treated with respect. Losers get treated badly.

Exactly. Men who are useful objects can use there value to bargain for what they want. While men who are not useful get discriminated against and shamed to try to make them more useful objects.

You keep saying I am wrong while indirectly agreeing with me.

Twisting my words to fit your narrative won't work on me. I said exactly what I said, and it should be taken as such. Being a loser isn't a good look. This is for both men and women.

Just because you try to frame objectification in another way to rationalize it as good does not change what you are saying.

The only one who is trying to twist things is you.

Value a man for what he provides is the smam

Yes it was also a "skill issue" on my part. Young teenagers often have a hard time in social interactions. I didn't understand that my sexuality made them uncomfortable, or couldn't accept it. I now take precautions around straight women so no one feels uncomfortable. Ofcourse some people will just be homophobic just because, and that's ok, because I'm not forced by anyone to interact with them.

Someone being uncomfortable with your sexuality is not a skill issue, your “creepiness” and “failure” to be as amazing as a man is.

I love how you twist things, it is entertaining. I mean, to passive aggressively blame other women for your lack of social skills as them being “uncomfortable with your sexuality” is laughable.

Plenty of men are pretty charismatic, more than I am, or less than I am. That doesn't matter. The fact of the matter was that the game isn't fair, and it isn't supposed to be. I can't act like a man, and I can't act like a straight woman.

No, that is just an excuse. You can act however you wish to, you just have a “skill issue” according to your logic.

And life is not fair is not a justification or an argument.

You seem to be extremely deep into your victim mindset. This will make you look like a loser. Again, skill issue :)

There you go again, trying to twist words. Proving you wrong in not a “victim mindset.” You clearly have a bad case of main character syndrome with your hyper focus on judging those who disagree with you or are not useful enough for you to use as “losers.”

I'm definitely inferior to a lot of men. Plenty of them are great. Especially the ones who don't bitch and moan all the time, the ones who aren't losers, and the ones who don't constantly put themselves in the victim position. Cheers!

This is the part where you run away pretending you are the shit for getting what you think is the last word in with an indirect personal attack covered with bs.

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No, you literally cannot accept that men who deserve good treatment are treated well.

Men who are useful objects my ass. You don't have to be helpful towards everyone to be appreciated. My dad is appreciated because he's a great snooker player. He is technically useful, but he's not liked for how he can service others. Some men are funny, charismatic, they know a bunch of stuff about a bunch of subjects, which makes talking to them a fun activity.

Well yes, you have to bring some sort of value to the people around you. You can't just be a loser and expect others to like you. Time and energy are still valuable resources, and you become a black hole that sucks the happiness out of everyone if you keep expecting resources such as time, affection or energy (basically you're objectifying them), without giving anything back. My friends don't use me if they ask me to house sit for a few days, I don't suddenly become an object. They offered me value in other ways, wether that be good advice, a shoulder to cry on, a home cooked meal, whatever. That's how human relationships work, and it's really puzzling to me that you look at this phenomenon and call it exploitative, especially just towards men.

You view it as bad, and that's a problem. Human relationships have always worked this way. If you can't fit in a human society while every other functional human being can, then it has to be your fault. Why is being useful to the people around you a bad thing? Every single living thing is useful in its own way. Does the flower feel objectified by the bee when it gets pollinated???

I don't have to be as amazing as a man, and it's not my fault if they perceived my behaviour as creepy. It wasn't my intention, neither were my thoughts necessarily unpure or worse than a teenage boy's. However, it still was my responsibility to adapt to that (which I did), so no one feels uncomfortable anymore. You can adapt too, that's your responsibility.

As for my amazingness, I feel pretty good about myself and the people around me too. I am nothing like a man and I'm not supposed to be. Being more masculine doesn't equate me to being a man. I can still be handier than the usual woman, I can be stronger, more hands on while still retaining my femininity and not emasculating the men around me. Women aren't less amazing for not being men just like men aren't less amazing for not being women.

I forgive you for believing that because you don't have the lesbian experience and you can't have it. I wasn't necessarily awkward, I just thought that I can act like the other girls without it being interpreted as sexual or creepy. I had to completely change my behaviour around them after I came out, even if the way I acted around them wasn't an issue before they knew I was attracted to women. They started acting weird actually. Requesting that I do more things for them( similar behaviour they had with boys that were interested in them), attempting to "turn me on" or fluster me, thinking I "stare at them" when I wasn't or interpreting completely non sexual behaviour on my part as sexual. Similar to what teenage boys might have experienced.

I'm not twisting anything, it's clear you really like playing victim.

That's your view on me, and you're socially inept. Why you thought your input would be appreciated, I have no idea.

You think that because you see all women as scheming bitches who just want to get something out of you. Victim mindset all around.

You can make as many assumptions about me as you want. It just tells me a lot about you. I really, really find it funny how all you did was make dumb assumptions about me and what I believe in, while I just took what you said and analyzed it.

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No, you literally cannot accept that men who deserve good treatment are treated well.

Haha.

You mean monsters that many women adore like Ted Bundy deserve “good treatment?” While a good man whose usefulness is up deserves to get divorced and spend the rest of his life borderline homeless?

You are such a liar and you know if deep down don’t you? A man’s usefulness to a woman has no bearing if he is good or not. And clearly tons of horrible monsters get tons of good treatment while tons of good people get nothing or punished for the good they do.

You try to frame being treated like a dog as a good thing. That being treated as a an object for women to exploit means you are somehow better because it further benefits you as the “main character” of some non-existent story.

Who’s a good boy, you deserve your dog treat for serving your master. Here is the sex, love and intimacy I use to control you for being such a good boy.

Sorry, men are not objects. You have no right to judge men as you do not even see them as human and clearly know absolutely nothing of men.

You judging me by my useful to women or you, pretending that I must be some “antagonist” or loser just because I do not cave to your bs.

The truth is I am very successful with women, more so than when I was a “good boy” when I was younger. I am married to a virgin who will allow me to sleep with other women if I so desire. And I treat her like trash in comparison to my younger crushes who looked down upon me for my kindness.

I have had three girls on me at once at a swingers party before because women love how useful my multiorgasmic dick is.

So yeah, your womansplaining and hated is invalid.

I know how it all works. I know that you are just trying to dishonestly negotiate for men who you deem “losers” to serve your interests as if they matter more then anyone else’s.

Your morality and feelings are worthless, it does not matter what you think of men at all.

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Thomas Jefferson: “I advanced it, therefore, as a suspicion only, that the blacks, whether originally a distinct race, or made distinct by time or circumstances, are inferior to the whites in the endowments of both body and mind.”

Abraham Lincoln: “There is a physical difference between the white and the black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together... while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any man am in favor having the superior position assigned to the white race.”

Theodore Roosevelt: “I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are the dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every 10 are, and I shouldn’t like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth.”

Were these great men right too?

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A. I'm bisexual. And literally did a thesis piece on how Wilde's sexuality, multiple scandals and internalized shame with his own sexuality appear in his work.

B. Oscar Wilde's relationship with his sexuality and the women around him is deeply complex and largely informed by the world around him. He was a man quite literally hurt by traditional patriarchal norms and had lingering shame of his sexuality. Nearly every man on this lists view of women is informed by the way their specific society was structured and women's place within it (which was dictated and decided by men so it's not like that opinion holds much weight in 2024).

C. Being punished for your desires/debaucherous lifestyle was a huge theme in his early work. Being gay isn't debaucherous but it was viewed as something to be hidden /ashamed of in the Victorian era. It's not surprising that Wilde internalized this. Following your sexual desires will destroy you and what you desire is literally the reigning theme of his interpretation of Salome (coincidentally one of his first works originally written in French around or shortly after he graduated from university when he was likely figuring his shit out). Wilde had internalized homophobia.

D. Wilde was pursuing men that were too young to consent to queer sex even in the victorian era (but coincidentally this standard was not applied to heterosexual relationships and young women sometimes younger would get married off at this age). "Sodomy" was technically illegal but rarely prosecuted. Wilde literally pursued a defamation trial when the affair he was having was easily provable. An incredible writer kind of a shitshow person.

E. You can criticize anyone at any time. You likely just aren't equipped to criticize Wilde because you're googling quotes and have no idea who and what you're talking about and it shows lmao.

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Someone not being into you sexually Is a really childish reason to have a negative view over someone.

Liar, I never said that.

According to your hatred, feminism is mad men are not sexually into them when they complain about being objectified.

Men cannot even go a few days without a new “men ain’t useful enough” bs being thrown in there face.

Most men who are “misogynistic” become so because of how they got burned by women. This includes exes and wives. Many are angry for they were cheated on, used, paying for a child that is not there child, being objectified as a dildo, atm, handyman, etc. held to unrealistic standards while being shamed as evil for having any of there own. Etc.

And then go top it off we get lied to that we are somehow privileged and others are entitled to what we have.

But we are then told we are not entitled to anything and inequality is okay as long as it benefits women.

But you cannot see that, for you do not see men as human. So you have to throw all men who have a negative view of feminine toxicity as “misogynistic incels who are mad a model is not into them sexually.”

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its not disinterest. Its suspicion, its distrust, its painting you in a way that makes all actions even being ones untrustworthy

women are running a psyop to try and gain more ground in defining societal rules and policy in the name of safety, their safety.

To that end they seek to de-legitimize mens stake in that discourse.

By doing so they will be able to enact policies that will make life harder for low value men. ( high value men are cushioned by the things that make them high value ). The dismantling of mens spaces is an example of that - the idea is - mens spaces are places where the powerful congregate and make networks to the detriment of women, boys locker room is where misandry is engaged in. Basically just like Christians believe that god is present where 3 or more believers gather, Feminists seem to believe that misogyny exists where more than 3 men are gathered

This is why Trans rights is such a flashpoint : terfs see it as men invading women's spaces but are unable to effectively boot them out because liberal culture sees trans-women as deserving of the same protections and spaces granted to women

You don't see this as something individual women do, but they are complicit.

mens animus is more likely to be directed one on one, but it no longer has broader power, except in the form of religious dogma

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Ehh, as long as women don't directly bother you with their distrust, I feel like you shouldn't be so upset over it.

I'm a dark-skinned person(my eastern European beauty standards). People think I'm a Romani woman. Such, they follow me in stores to check if I'm not stealing anything. I don't mind that. I understand that they have unfortunate events everyday, and while not every person who looks like me steals, 9/10 thieves look like me.

The only time issues arise is when they begin talking to me, wanting to check my belongings, treat me a certain way, etc. As long as they just take the precautions (follow me closely around the store), I don't mind. Just don't harass me when I'm trying to shop.

Horrors have actually happened in boy's locker rooms. Young men should be able to get together as long as they're supervised by an adult. Teenage boys do stupid shit.

As for trans people, there have been some really unfortunate events happening, and there should be some rules set in place. No one should be able to just claim themselves part of a group and intrude. At the very least make steps to be included in the group (hormones or whatever).

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Better yourself or live a life without romantic love. Though I'm sure that there is someone out there willing to love you. Maybe you wouldn't love them back. Who knows?

If trolling online makes you happy then go ahead.

Not caring about someone's rights and actively rallying against someone's rights are very different things. Like if the government of my country suddenly decided that all men must work in mine without equipment i would have something to say about it. I would not vote for that decision. I can't say that I care about men's rights, but I do care about basic human rights. I would absolutely not take actions against men gaining rights or just keeping the ones they have now. Neither with straight women or straight people in general. If I had to vote pro or against having every child being paternity tested at birth I'd be pro, because it would help men but it wouldn't hurt anyone else.

Outrage is a bit of a strong word. Most people don't care as much about trolls, or pretend to care because that's what people on the internet generally Do. I live in an European country and the EU is luckily pretty big on human rights. I'll never have to worry wether I'll be able to get an abortion or not.

No, wanting someone to lose their rights or taking steps towards making them lose their rights is straight up hatred. Go to a psychiatrist level hatred. At least in my view.

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Once again, I didn't refer to any hypothetical. Why do you have to lie and change to subject to argue your points? It's not a good look. All I am saying is that women tend to have a hateful disposition towards men. You insist on trying to change the subject, and argue with something... that I'm not even saying. Maybe you are getting your conversations mixed up? When did I say anything at all about public spaces? What hypothetical did I present at all? You can't answer any of these questions because everything you just said is based on arguing with points that I didn't even make. It'd be real cool if you could stop making up things to argue with and just respond to the things the other person actually said. I know you can't do that though since you have nothing of substance to say in response. Go ahead and make up something else that I never said if you need to though, I understand that it can be hard to respond like an adult.

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Why do great men engage in such misogyny?

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'My dear you are ugly, but tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be ugly.'

Churchill

Title	Why do great men engage in such misogyny?
Author	Sure_Tourist1088
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Comments	321
Date	May 10, 2024 2:52 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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