Being a bad boy is very beneficial when it comes to being respected by peers and attracting women

TheRedPillRipper · 2023-05-04T08:02:12+00:00

Being a bad boy is very beneficial

I have a few friends, that lead an ‘alternative’ lifestyle. Two stand out. One is in and out of jail. Leads a very dangerous lifestyle. We went to a funeral a few years ago, and I jumped in his car to go. Whilst driving he mentions he had a few pieces in his car, plus some ‘candy.’ After the funeral I told him straight, I can’t jump in with him again. As I have certain clearances that would be impacted, if we got pulled over. He has women left, right and centre.

The second is the total opposite. Not many people know, that he’s about it. Owns legitimate businesses, and has done really well. He’s married, with five kids. My wife was saying the other day, that his wife’s handbag collection alone, is easy in the six figures.

Both accept the risk, of their choices. Only one, of the two; has realistically benefited. You can be all the ‘bad’ you want, but making decisions like a boy? Is rarely beneficial.

Godspeed and good luck!

lostnumber08 · 2023-05-04T12:28:02+00:00

Depends on the type of people you value and how easily impressed you are. I’m a combat veteran with a stable career, wife and kids. “Bad boy” types get no respect from men like me. Maybe immature low value men respect them, but not men who actually have accomplishments and life experience. I see them as children and mentally fragile. I only respect men with compassion, intelligence, and a sense of family and community.

shestammie · 2023-05-04T05:31:31+00:00

You have to be charismatic and funny. Not “bad.”

If you hurt a woman, maybe she’s a crackpot that would be attracted to you. And maybe you’ll get arrested, put on blast on social media, lose your job, friends and reputation. This is dumb as hell. Wise up.

DryStation · 2023-05-04T13:33:50+00:00

You still have to be actually attractive though for this to work. Also, it typically doesn’t draw in high value women

JNRoberts42 · 2023-05-04T05:08:04+00:00

A piece of shit attracts pieces of shit. Is that who red pilled men want to date?

The bad boy narrative is pure outsider bias. Men who don’t flirt, tease, and make others laugh frame men who do as rivals. As “bad boys”. Most aren’t bad, they are different than the hypercritical observer.

Nice guys are not competing with “bad boys” for women, it’s not the same pond. Women who are attracted to loud, flirty, assertive types will rarely be drawn to shy, retiring men. So don’t worry about Chad. He’s living in a different social sphere. Find the women who find Chad unpleasant and ask them out.

gofigure62 · 2023-05-04T13:50:26+00:00

This is true for the following demographics of people

low income
mentally ill
personality disordered
drug addicts
equally violent and dangerous people
people with a history of truama

Everyone else that is sane and normal doesn't want to be around emotionally unstable and violent assholes.

AceArguments · 2023-05-04T14:40:39+00:00

Yes...Being a good moral person is ten times harder than taking the path of least resistance...Literally the basis of most religions and philosophical work...

Can't be weak if you are the threat.

Those that steal, get more stuff. Those that use force get more respect. Those that kill are taken more seriously. The hardest thing to do in life is be a good person that is stepped on but turns those experiences into understanding.

But I'll tell you what, when anyone puts actions to their words, everyone gets what they ask for. The life you're asking for is violent and aggressive. No matter how much you think of yourself as "the good guy on the inside", your actions says the opposite. You don't think the suffering of being moral is worth what you get afterwards; love, stability, companionship, understanding, friends, community.

Everyone gets what they ask for. Have fun living with what you asked for.

KamuiObito · 2023-05-04T09:46:34+00:00

Women arent gonna ever acknowledge this..women dont like criticism…and most of the women here aren’t the average. It isn’t necessarily “bad” guys they just like assertiveness and they like bejng lil bros to their bf..they like feeling like their bf is in control..same reason they date men 1-10 years older ..reason why thry date men taller then them..women like the feeling of being lower then their bf..submissiveness they would rather be the one bullied then be doing the bullying if you get what im tryna say..women are weird a and backwards..none of the things they do actually help them pick good partners..still somehow gets a body count of 25 even with all the filler options they have its bizarre asl and should be talked about more..men aren’t any better tho ofc

Soloandthewookiee · 2023-05-04T05:18:07+00:00

Amazing, I've been able to get the respect of my peers and attract women without being violent and aggressive or a doormat.

The first step is to stop looking at everything through the lens of getting laid, and stop believing there's some cosmic scoreboard keeping track of anytime someone gets one over on you.

Dazzling-Lock-6049 · 2023-05-04T21:52:27+00:00

If women find the act of murder attractive, that is the biggest red flag

Highonuppers · 2023-05-04T06:08:59+00:00

Well, I came to the conclusion men love bitches too, I used to be the sweet girl. Now I became indifferent, sometimes hot and cold, and detached. In my experience, it works wonders, men love being treated bad too. 🤷🏻‍♀️

obviousredflag · 2023-05-04T10:24:17+00:00

Sure, be bad to women and attract unhealthy relationship partners, just as you are. Genius!

gymbronyc718 · 2023-05-04T11:51:18+00:00

I'm reading the book Not Nice by Aziz Gazipura and literally on the first page he says "Being nice does not come out of goodness or high morals. It comes out of a fear of displeasing others and receiving their disapproval."

And that's where "nice guys" who think they are good and moral men really struggle. Never asserting themselves, never being selfish, never putting their desires first, letting women get away with murder and treating them poorly only to kiss their ass. All of this is driven by fear of displeasing others.

As a matter of fact, all your problems with women are because of that fear. A hot girl in the grocery store that you don't want to approach because you may bother her? Afraid of displeasing her and being disapproved of by others. A woman you asked out on a date and she gives you the runaround and you don't call her out on it? Afraid of disapproval. Afraid that if you say something she will be displeased and won't go out with you, but if you stay quiet and try to accommodate her maybe you will still have a chance. A woman tells you she sees you as a friend and you agree to it although you want to fuck get? Again fear that if you tell her "hell no, I'm here to fuck baby" you will displease her and your chances of being close to her will disappear forever.

Think about it.

666chihuahua · 2023-05-04T14:28:05+00:00

Y’all are so fucking stupid for still believing this. It’s not bad boy treating them like shit that girls like. It’s men who take risks, are brave, confrontational and have self confidence that women like. Saying girls only want men who treat them like shit is like saying people only like puppies because they shit on the floor. Grow the fuck up and stop self loathing and maybe women will grow a liking to you.

LeatherCarpet6791 · 2023-05-04T11:01:52+00:00

If we talking only about women who age (25-35)here bcz younger than that is teenager for me and it dosent count .

my experience:

Abusive type attract very very small type of unstable girl you dont want to be with them in the first place .

Honestly Being badboy wil attract more women . So if your goal is just sex go for that .

Being a good person wil attract also women which you can have very healthy relationship with. Downside for being nice is will also attract narcissist women so if you are not be careful its gonna make your life awful.

DeshaunWalt · 2023-05-04T05:08:35+00:00

My man just watched fifty shades of Grey

Eastern-Action1384 · 2023-05-05T07:27:38+00:00

Yes, hell yes! The sad part you can't be a 'bad boy' you either have it or not. I was always the funny guy, always smiling. Look at my life now. I wish I was a drug dealer honestly or something. That kind of life style needs confidence and lot of courage it attracts girls like magnet. When I was in my 20s I saw girls give themselves to them like free candy. So yes for guys who wanna attract girls in their 20s and don't wanna stay virgins buy a motorcycle or be in a dangerous field. It will give you confidence and courage and it will attract girls to you.

Hey I am not blaming girls here, I can understand how they are thinking honestly.

neverendingplush · 2023-05-04T07:21:09+00:00

What exactly occurs in daily life where the trope of being a bad boy is even feasible. Being a criminal?

questioningfeminist · 2023-05-04T16:48:21+00:00

This is flat out confirmation bias.

How many thousands of nice men are in happy relationships with women that you are ignoring because your mind is made up that only bad boys get women?

It's not the "bad boy" that the women are attracted to. It's the unashamed confidence and willingness to approach 1000 women.

LingonberryGood3915 · 2023-05-04T08:07:56+00:00

you are misinterpreting the situation. the part about them that is attractive is their projected strength because of assertiveness and a masculine undertone in their voice that signals the potential threat of violence if a like is crossed, which is also projecting strength.

you dont have to hurt people to display that, but doing it also is a way to display it. also having a spine sometimes means hurting, antagonizing and being violent to people who are disrespectful or antagonizing.

the reason these men have such a success is because they project strength on a subconscious level. women care about the expression of strength, and these men simply are the only ones displaying it. the female lizard brain doesn't differentiate between good or bad, just strong or weak.

with peers, its the same thing. a man showing strength makes him respected and admired. being liked and being respected are completely different.

IAmTheTrueWalruss · 2023-05-04T05:31:51+00:00

Violent and aggressive men are almost universally seen as complete losers with deep insecurities. Your definition of a bad boy is just an asshole. To some there exists a binary that you can either be A: a bad boy Or B: a bit of a pussy. This isn’t true and a majority of men are somewhere in between.

I’m also a little concerned you just straight up grabbed a girl by the throat because she threw some attitude at you. You should understand this is a result of both of you being young, odd and attracted to each other. Other wise I’m concerned that you matured into someone that thinks this is attractive and acceptable.

Also my guy basing this all on a couple interactions with the same girl who almost certainly was already attracted to you proves nothing and you shouldn’t base your future relations on that. My perception of this post is that you might not be as successful with women as you’d hoped (aren’t we all) so you’re reminiscing on a time you were successful with a girl as a young man and generalizing all men and women to be like this exact context. It’s just not true. The very idea of what a “bad boy” is is very flawed and at best is only contained within adolescence, as when people meet more partners their idea of what someone can be becomes far more nuanced.

Orangematcha · 2023-05-04T05:33:07+00:00

Do well is all perspective. You think they do well or everyone around them is just trying to get that person to leave them alone.

Women aren’t gonna try to irritate a emotionally unbalanced person and most men won’t either. It’s an argument that a reasonable person knows they can’t win since the bad boy is so dense.

It’s not really respect. It’s keeping people at bay. It’s sizing them up to make sure they get left alone. If you consider that respect then that’s not healthy.

What even is a bad boy now a days anyways. Don’t most people already know the facade of a bad boy. Like who honestly gets away with it? I feel like most get made fun of. Like Steven crowded with his holster

Gay_For_Gary_Oldman · 2023-05-04T07:33:24+00:00

Yeah, maybe if youre 17 and all your peers are deadbeats. Try holding down a real job, having a group of good, functioning friends, or holding down a relationship with a worthwhile woman whilst being a "bad boy".

Further to the last point, i dont understand why people of this mentality cant see that the only women attracted to POS "bad boys" are not women who you'd want to spend a lot of time with.

AngeCruelle · 2023-05-04T05:09:55+00:00

That 100% depends on the type of people you associate with

Extreme-Boot-8792 · 2023-05-04T05:46:11+00:00

OP, im curious, what these "bad boys" look like?

tall or short?ugly or handsome?

AwesomeRocky-18- · 2023-05-04T06:05:06+00:00

This would’ve applied to me in high school when I thought it was cool because I saw it on Disney. Being in college now, this type of behavior would physically repulse me and make me lose respect for the person. I can’t imagine any grown women finding this cute.

puddingbike · 2023-05-04T07:03:19+00:00

Being a bad boy is very beneficial when it comes to... attracting women

I took out the "respected by peers" part because who gives a fuck about that. As far as your statement: "Being a bad boy is very beneficial when it comes to... attracting women." There's no doubt about it. The people who disagree have simply never lived it. Your statement is simply a fact. That's how it works.

Flightlessbirbz · 2023-05-04T14:29:25+00:00

The reason “bad boys” (whatever that means to you) usually have women, is because ANY guy who isn’t shy and awkward, and isn’t a literal goblin (sometimes even if he is), is going to be able to get women of some sort. Men who are aggressive, either with women or other men, or take risks in general, aren’t afraid to risk talking to women and being rejected.

A few of the guys I’ve dated have been called “bad boys” by other men which I found funny, all were gentle and treated me well. I guess some men think any guy who will approach women and sometimes likes to have fun is a “bad boy”? It’s also worth noting that men can have a very different persona with the boys than they do with their female partner. To be honest, some of these guys were actually jerks to their male friends, just not with me or other women.

The type of mentally ill person that “likes” abusive behavior like you describe, will also make your life hell and could easily get you thrown in jail any time for any reason. You sound really young and dumb, just… stop it. Now, before you hurt someone or get yourself in massive trouble.

GlamSunCrybabyMoon · 2023-05-04T13:18:43+00:00

Being a “bad boy” attracts equally unstable women. Realistically they are products of the same environment. You wonder why some women would want to be a third, fourth, or fifth baby mama, that’s the environment that they came from where they see it as acceptable.

No need to pretend being a bad boy unless you want a woman that will slash your tires and will fight your mom.

MistyMaisel · 2023-05-04T18:11:05+00:00

I said this the other day and I'll say it here again:

The bad boy has some of the correct qualities for a good relationship. He's charismatic, he's funny, he's adventurous, he's exciting. He treats you like a person, not an alien mermaid. He's open with who he is. And yes, most of us enjoy rough-housing if we are secure in the knowledge the man will not hurt us. He's also protective and has street-smarts typically.

The problem that you learn is you grow up is that the bad boy has fatal flaws, many of which I'm sure men here are happy to out-line. But, there is hope that he can be reformed (and often, unless he's mentally insane or criminally bent, he can be and will be by a woman eventually). And, if you can reform him, he is legitimately going to make someone a wonderful husband.

***

The problem with all the "nice guys" ultimately is that they are cowards and people pleasers, and you can't generally teach them to be charismatic, funny, adventurous, exciting, likely to treat you as a person, to let it all hang out, or get them to rough house with you safely, etc.

All of the above are qualities cowards largely cannot have because all of them are learnt by taking risks. Nice guys don't take risks. That's what makes them what they are at their core. No one has ever become funny without bombing. No one ever learned charisma without failing. They can't handle excitement, so they sure won't give you any. They don't want adventures, adventures include dangers and challenges and failure. And they will never be able to see you as a person, because people are flawed and can be harmful. And they'll never show you who they really are because again, cowards.

***

Don't be a bad boy per say. If only because the next time you grab a girl by the throat, it might be me, and I'll break your fingers or have someone else do it. And if you did it a second time, you'd be masturbating with a stump where I'm from.

But don't be a cowards. Take risks. Those risks don't have to be going to jail or the psych ward or ending up homeless or drugs or any of that. They can just be telling a joke that's a little off or going somewhere you've never been. Allow for the option of failure.

harmonica2 · 2023-05-04T19:14:52+00:00

What constitutes a bad boy, just a guy who can't commit monogamously?

Early-Christmas-4742 · 2023-05-04T06:28:45+00:00

Violent men are also more likely to get murdered or sent to prison, or at least regularly battered. Even if it is benificial, the average man can't just become violent as an adult.

No-Assistant-2592 · 2023-05-04T11:00:14+00:00

What the fuck do people even mean with a bad boy, are they talking about an abuser or a bully? So there's someone that's putting people down and making others feel like shit or they're profiting on others misery somehow, some women see this and are turned on by that. You guys think that those women are something to write home about, the fuck would you want to be with a woman like that?

SecondEldenLord · 2023-05-04T07:25:42+00:00

Women love the thrills and the excitement, something a calm, gentle man cannot offer. In is in their DNA to go for such violent men, but the funniest part is that they are the ones who complain that the guy is abusive. I am like "no shit, what did you expect?"

Lord-Beaky · 2023-05-04T09:19:45+00:00

Honestly a guy making 6 figures. 7 figures and 8 figures with a big mansion and many cars while cool doesn’t get you respect a dude being homeless. With no goals. No hobbies. No interests. No aspirations. Doesn’t shower. Has no clean clothes. Looks like a mess gets more than us

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BurntOutKid11 · 2023-05-04T10:14:52+00:00

I've always noticed that all this time. The typical bad boys easily get a lot of friends and they're never ignored when they speak. Even when they aren't interesting, funny or charismatic. Especially a good amount of young guys love to be friends with them because they feel it will make them look cool too.

pinealpresence · 2023-05-04T13:50:42+00:00

I’ve honestly never met a guy who wasn’t a peice of shit who wasn’t in a relationship.

And this is why turning "incel"dom into a moral argument is (somewhat) bs.

Incels have gotten a misogynist connotation, but (sadly) being a misogynist alone doesn't stop guys from being successful in dating.

Conscious_Ad_6572 · 2023-05-04T14:22:27+00:00

Yup if it was a 10k years ago, that guy would have had better chance of protecting woman

This is biological coding

Coolio_Street_Racer · 2023-05-04T15:56:19+00:00

Look at the type of movie characters most women simp for. Drako Malfoy, Rodrick, etc...

Women are attracted to traits of high testerone men. Increased Aggression, Leaner Build, Less Emotional, Increased Risk Taking, etc...

bsmith440 · 2023-05-04T16:11:47+00:00

You're getting bad boy mixed up with dangerous. Women want a dangerous man because they have the capacity to commit violence in defense of their girlfriend/wife, but they don't want that violence committed on them. There's a balance. When she meets a guy who is obviously passive or soft, women don't believe they have the capacity to protect themselves or a woman.

I've never met a high value women that enjoyed dating actual criminals or actual "bad boys"

Also, I'll give you a little insight on how women think. I was a huge dick to my now wife on OLD when we first met, I asked her why she was so attracted to a man that messaged her like that, she said it made her feel special that she wasn't being treated like every other women. I think women also think if you are soft and overly submissive to one women, you will be like that to all women and you're more likely to cheat or just let another woman walk all over you.

It basically boils down to, a women wants a man that can protect her and be assertive/dominant.

Ohyarlysmiles · 2023-05-04T17:18:45+00:00

Even bad boys who doesn’t even have looks or height tend to do well with women

I have yet to see this. The women tend to follow the looks level of the guy, as in beneath him. Women put up with that behavior because the man has some quality, usually superficial, that she highly values.

I wasn’t having it so I’d literally grab her by the throat while looking into her eyes and told her to lose the attitude and she did indeed liked when I’d do this

Congrats, you found a damaged person. Woopdeedoo.

apparently I realize bad boys often get more respected by their peers

Conflict avoidance and respect are two different things.

howbedebody · 2023-05-04T18:09:19+00:00

psych studies show being high on the dark triad of traits is good for short term hookups but unsustainable for long term

k10001k · 2023-05-05T03:03:27+00:00

No, no they don’t. No woman or person at all wants to be with someone who is abusive.

SOME women may like someone who is more of a “bad boy” but by “bad boy” I mean l someone who is flirty and good in bed, NOT someone abusive. And also that is for casual stuff not a real committed relationship and it’s not all women. Every woman has a different type.

Dear god do not go around telling men to abuse and be shitty to women or anyone.

Glass_Bucket · 2023-05-05T13:25:21+00:00

I’d rather be a good, kind person and not have any female attention than a criminal douchebag who gets a lot of pussy

Carloverguy20 · 2023-05-06T01:09:34+00:00

There's a fine line between respect and fear, people don't respect bad boys, they fear them and hate them.

Majority of the bad boys aren't respected much, they are feared. Feared doesn't mean respected.

The types of people who are respected by peers are those who are charismatic, friendly, easygoing, sociable, gentleman etc are the ones who get the most female attention.

GlasgaAccentfurYanks · 2023-05-06T02:14:09+00:00

Badness is an attitude, it is almost a meta-style, a deliberate carelessness, mystery interwoven into fierce realism, sigma soundtrack every day in the psyche... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJa2kwoZ2a4

y2kjanelle · 2023-05-08T07:40:26+00:00

You can be assertive without being a bad boy. Don't know why theres only two extremes of men being either POS assholes or POS "nice guys".

Being assertive is key and doesn't include being a bad boy nor does it include being a desperate doormat.

pajliada · 2023-05-10T20:40:03+00:00

blablabla dudes always talking about what guys should be. Be yourself because that's who you actually are, anything else will be obviously fake.

Also bad guys aren't it in the long term once their problems become more evident, they're just interesting in the short term blablabla you've probably heard of that a hundred times before but see sex = victory so it doesnt matter to u

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