Q4M: What's your feelings towards women?

krackedy · 2024-05-05T01:19:22+00:00

There are billions of women. I can't generalize how I feel about them all with a number.

I love some women, I hate some women.

purplish_possum · 2024-05-05T03:05:58+00:00

Just like men. Some are super cool, some suck, most are meh.

Gravel_Roads · 2024-05-05T01:16:03+00:00

I hate a few, dislike others, am indifferent to most, admire a couple and love the ones who I choose to share my life with.

just_a_place · 2024-05-05T01:42:24+00:00

Option #6 It depends.

Depending on the woman, or even groups of women in question, it could be any of your previous 5 options up to and including "all of the above" and "some of the above."

SurelyWoo · 2024-05-05T01:38:47+00:00

I can't stop thinking about what the "G word" might be. Could you give us a hint? Maybe do it like they do on The Wheel of Fortune.

wtknight · 2024-05-05T01:15:15+00:00

One can't make a generalization about an entire gender. There are some lovable women and a few that can be disliked, and then everywhere in between.

Zabadoodude · 2024-05-05T02:59:05+00:00

I don't hate any women. I dislike some, indifferent to most, and love a few.

dj_crunch998 · 2024-05-05T01:39:22+00:00

I mean some women I like(friends, coworkers) some I admire (role models: Michelle Obama, Rosa parks etc) some I love like my partner. Some I dislike like some former friends or random people I’ve interacted it. None I hate. I don’t hate anyone I think dislike is enough hate is pretty strong word. Say all that to say I don’t have any number cause theirs billions of em out there.

grown_folks_talkin · 2024-05-05T05:36:14+00:00

Women are half the human race across every ethnicity and nation. No strong feelings purely on the base of gender. Gender, particularly cisgender, is as unique as being right-handed. More information needed to form an opinion.

SecondEldenLord · 2024-05-05T14:00:20+00:00

Indifferent. Don't care about them as much as I used to, I always looked up to them as way better than men in terms of emotional intelligence and empathy, but reality hit me hard and it seems like they have the least empathy towards men especially because feminism taught them that men are evil and oppresses women. Also, women judges people harshly in terms of looks, like the way you look really changes the way woman treats you, and it doesn't even matter how you are as a person. You can be the best looking man with a shitty personality and she will treat him right, you can can be the ugliest person with the purest heart ever and she will treat him like crap.

Luciansleep · 2024-05-05T05:35:32+00:00

I’m 3. Indifferent.

But I’m that way with everyone until I get to know them

Maffioze · 2024-05-05T11:29:43+00:00

For the average woman its 3, for certain women who portray exceptional intelligence, kindness, or artistic ability its 4, and for women that I consider to be in my circle of loved ones its 5. The anwser would be the same for men.

full_brick_package · 2024-05-05T03:49:06+00:00

I love women but I recognize feminist ideals are the outcome of base primal female fears. I realize that feminist ideals are also about getting the cake, eating it, expecting it to still be there yet also expecting no calories from eating it. It's zero accountability for high expectations and no empathy for men.

But I do love women, more than most. Nothing is more wonderful than a grandmother (as a man who had 4 grandmothers, two adopted, I truly love the grandma energy), an aunt, a mom, a daughter. That said, our entire discourse just cannot pander to women's needs and wants.

It can't be one way, one sided, I know assailants exist and we try very hard to rid the world of them but we also desparately need to consider male sexuality and treat it as valid not just predatory.

Tywinlol · 2024-05-05T02:48:35+00:00

2.5 While there are some women I like and admire, most women, especially American women, I'm surrounded by are selfish, dumb, exploitive.

gntlbastard · 2024-05-05T03:57:03+00:00

AdventurousTie8034 · 2024-05-05T12:17:04+00:00

I'm 23 (M) and I never had a girlfriend, never even kissed. I used to love women and I still love women. I know women are not perfect but I love them anyway. Honestly I have nothing in common with most other men (except a few close friends)

KayRay1994 · 2024-05-05T16:35:32+00:00

Can literally go from hate to indifferent to love depending on the individual. Some women are amazing, some truly suck and most fall somewhere in between. Just like any other individual

Silver_Past2313 · 2024-05-05T16:45:42+00:00

The saying "can't live with them, can't live without them" comes to mind.

As everywhere in nature the sexes, at least before the 21st century, seemed to have a pretty perfect balance going on. Due to our natural differences men and women don't really like each other all that much, this is why friend groups are very often sex segregated unless sex is happening. We have different values, self best interests, and proclivities. Everyone comes to the bargaining table and makes a deal, and this deal is usually balanced in a way that optimizes us for evolutionary success.

Now for how I would casually put it, I find women short sighted, highly instinctual, solipsistic, and also nurturing, observant, and socially wise. We balance each other. I love some parts, find others extremely annoying. But nature declared this is the way, I am not as wise as millions of years of evolution. I ultimately bow nature's force. Those who don't die.

ilikecats18851 · 2024-05-06T08:38:59+00:00

As a group I hate them. Their worst instincts are encouraged. Individual women I'm neutral, I don't hang around fuckwits so most of the women I know are fine.

thedarkracer · 2024-05-05T02:46:48+00:00

Indifferent. They can be assholes or good or stupid or intelligent just as men.

RequisiteTaco · 2024-05-05T07:39:21+00:00

Indifference, and I’ve been like that for years. A couple MGTOW guys have gotten falsely accused of misogyny when what we really have is pessimism for the human species.

There’s a couple topics that make me feel mildly resentful towards women as a generalized group but I feel the same about the male subset of the species in certain ways so I wouldn’t say I’m biased either way.

That said, it’s easier to talk about my experiences with women and dating and paint broad strokes in that direction as far as most of the topics that typically come up in here. And I don’t want to hedge every statement about women I make with “I’m speaking in generalizations” so it may come off as misogynistic from time to time.

Friedrich_Friedson · 2024-05-05T10:17:00+00:00

Bru, you can't just categorise like 4 billion people who the Only thing all of them have in common is a vagina and XX chromosomes.

All 5 apply to women, same as men

Lazy_Round_640 · 2024-05-05T12:19:09+00:00

Between 1 and 2. My mother was extremely abusive towards me growing up, would often make fun of my appearance. I've had some female friends in the past, but eventually most of them ended up screwing me over in way or another. The vast majority of women seem to view me as something less than human because of the fact that I'm physically unattractive. I don't really see how it's possible for me to not at least somewhat dislike women when I've had pretty much exclusively bad experiences with them.

Dorkology · 2024-05-05T04:43:27+00:00

In general? I don't think the options you gave were sufficient.

I think life without women would make living pointless for men. They are literally the perfect compliment to us. They can make a high two fold better. They can make you keep going when you're trudging through a low point. They've been the inspiration for so many amazing developments. The inspiration for some of the most beautiful musical pieces ever arranged. And they have the most amazing superpower. The ability to foster life in their body is absolutely phenomenal. Seeing the life my wife created has made me feel degrees of love I didn't know were possible. I can't look at our baby without feeling gratitude and wanting to give her a hug and kiss.

But here's the thing. Anyone who can bring such amazing highs can obviously do the opposite. Humans are flawed beings. So, I'll not ascribe negative connotations to a whole demographic for the sins of a few.

I hope you find that woman that makes you forget about the ones who hurt you, bud! 🙏

meisterkraus · 2024-05-05T10:32:42+00:00

Why would I have an opinion on women as a class of people? Persons who share an immutable characteristic are not a monolith.

Konoha_Shinobee · 2024-05-05T11:24:36+00:00

Moving closer to hate the more I interact with them honestly.

UnhappyInevitable680 · 2024-05-05T13:29:29+00:00

Group 1 Men: The men who are most abusive and arrogant are attractive to women - they don’t respect women

Group 2 Men: The men who are nicest to women don’t get laid - they do respect women (I believe majority of men in society and here in this sub at least started in this group or are still in this category)

Group 2 men now are pissed because of this and women then say they are in group 1 and that’s why they don’t get laid.

Group 2 Loves you and you don’t love them back, why wouldn’t they start to dislike you now

So yea most men strongly like women and also strongly dislike women but it’s reasonable to dislike someone who doesn’t like you or respect you for confusing reasons after you were nice to them. It’s inevitable

The gaslighting of blue pillers are creating more frustration of red pill men and then saying “See See!!!” You guys hate women. Double Bind at its finest

RecreationalPorpoise · 2024-05-05T04:18:11+00:00

2, because my experiences with women have been overwhelmingly negative. That doesn’t mean I don’t want a healthy relationship with a woman who doesn’t treat me poorly. It’s not complex.

Electric_Death_1349 · 2024-05-05T07:54:12+00:00

2, bordering on 1, primarily due to OLD - being repeatedly sent a message that you’re ugly, disgusting, worthless, subhuman etc, is going to negatively shape a person’s perception of the group sending that message.

Neptune-Jnr · 2024-05-05T01:42:19+00:00

3 for most

4 for friends

5 for family and stuff

Dense-Tell-6147 · 2024-05-05T02:36:46+00:00

I have several women for each category, pretty much a gaussian distribution. One ex of mine checked all the boxes in this order: 4 > 5 > 1 > 2 > 3.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-05-05T12:47:08+00:00

I like them: 5 stars, would recommend. I’m a people person tho so, people get 5 stars from me.

Not all: there are some real pieces of work out there. But you’ll find a lot more that are awesome and you can avoid the sucky ones.

Dorkles_ · 2024-05-05T13:55:05+00:00

It’s way more common and accepted for women to men than for men to hate women. I’ve also never heard of men pedestalizing women when that is super common for men to do to women

Chaos-Knight · 2024-05-05T13:56:18+00:00

Let's see... if I'm in a remote forest I'd rather be in a woman than in a bear. /jk

I would say it just depends. I don't think sex/gender is a useful thing to even think about when deciding if you like someone, I try to not stereotype too much based on looks because even someone who looks like a dolled up bimbo could actually turn out to be a great and fun and interesting person desirable beyond just their looks.

On average I like women, if you draw a random woman out of the normal distribution she's probably gonna be alright and no worse than a randomly drawn man or a randomly drawn bear.

No-Rough-7390 · 2024-05-05T14:00:27+00:00

They don’t want to be taken seriously most of the time.

NotReallyTired_ · 2024-05-05T16:49:34+00:00

If I wasn't close to my sisters or female friends, I would've chosen #3 flat.

It's a 3.5 for me. Women are human beings with their own flaws, feelings, and thoughts. When you're around women long enough you get to see the best, good, bad, and ugly in terms of personality. I was fortunate enough to never fall into the "bluepill" mantra when I was younger because I was exposed to various of good and terrible shit.

One thing I notice about men, especially youngers who holds contempt and hatred for women is that they all had a history of treating/viewing women as angelic creatures who cannot do any harm or malice because they believe women born into perpetual victimhood. Only to run into a girl/women who'll put them through the wringer and smash his lens, and because they never had someone to explain to them the nuance and complication of human behavior they fall into hatred and contempt.

BeepBeepYeah7789 · 2024-05-05T17:09:00+00:00

Generally indifferent, but I admire and love those women who are close to me (depending on HOW close they are).

DietTyrone · 2024-05-05T18:00:20+00:00

Number 3. Some I like and some I don't like. It's on a person to person basis.

abaxeron · 2024-05-05T19:19:36+00:00

Considering that the majority of women think the term "feminist" describes them as either "somewhat well" or "very well", I see most women as people who mistakenly see me as an enemy.

I don't think I can characterize the "feeling" with one word. What would you "feel" if you were a hired Civil War era reenactor of the South, and someone mistook you for a literal slave-owner?

Top_Efficiency5067 · 2024-05-05T19:50:01+00:00

love for women in my close family. Indifferent to the rest.

SoldierExcelsior · 2024-05-05T21:08:51+00:00

3 Indifferent untill I get to know them

jpla86 · 2024-05-06T17:15:06+00:00

I'm mostly indifferent to women.

If we're just going by women online? Definately dislike leaning towards hate.

goo_wak_jai · 2024-05-06T21:05:49+00:00

3 for me. Women in the West are largely just men with different reproductive organs. Some are visually appealing to look at but most are largely invisible to me. I treat them as they would unto me. If one treats me badly, then that one gets the same bad behavior reflected back. But if one treats me nicely, then that individual gets the same nice behavior reflected back. It's strictly a case-by-case basis.

AstronautExisting230 · 2024-05-06T21:14:27+00:00

Dislike tbh. Yeah women are treated badly and sexism is a big issue, but combined with the rampant misandry and shallowness, its hard to really like being around them.

the_calibre_cat · 2024-05-06T21:45:11+00:00

a little bit of 3, a little bit of 5, the same feelings i extend to all human beings, even the ones i hate

GunR_SC2 · 2024-05-07T00:48:02+00:00

4, unless you're one that seems to hate men and are perpetually single and can't accept that they're the problem, then 2.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-05-05T01:46:25+00:00

Overall disdain.

PriestKingofMinos · 2024-05-05T02:08:33+00:00

I love and admire women but am deathly afraid of them.

crownofthestars · 2024-05-05T02:17:43+00:00

Oh it's like indifferent to dislike for me. Once upon a time as a boy I did things to impress girls, now I do things as a man simply so I can die a better man someday.

I'm self aware enough to know a part of me is deeply misogynistic when it comes to women. I don't treat them poorly, or disrespect them on purpose. I give them a fair shot. I just treat them as I would men because they wanted equality. Want my respect? Earn it like a man. I won't ever simp for a woman because she's pretty. The only one I treat different is a woman that is sending me romantic signals. Then we play a fun game.

But I do not hate women because I've been with women that I still hold much gratitude towards for making me a better man when I was younger. No one else but them could have done that for me, I truly believe that to this day.

MalandiBastos · 2024-05-05T05:21:00+00:00

Number 1 for probably 95% of women aged 18-30. Number 2 for the other 5% of them.

DaMarcusGotJuice · 2024-05-05T05:27:03+00:00

3

Most women I’m not related to are pretty useless in most relationships (romantic or friendship) so I tend to not form many close ones with them

Takeonehourly · 2024-05-05T01:27:31+00:00

3 all day, every day

8mm_Magnum_Cumshot · 2024-05-05T06:31:11+00:00

With regards to women as a whole? Overwhelmingly indifferent.

With regards to young, western, women, the demographic I interact with the most? Depends, but I definitely at least mildly dislike most of them.

wardenferry419 · 2024-05-05T09:52:02+00:00

I was a 5. Over the last 10 years, I have become a 3. A lot of it has to do with an increasing level of distrust and a developing idea that concepts like love, romance, and marriages have had their day but, now, are not good for anyone. They create an unrealistic ideal. It would be better for people to find a way to fuck then leave each other alone.

Barely-moral · 2024-05-05T15:15:50+00:00

The only opinion I have towards women in general is that the advantages that come with being a woman are wasted on them.

If I had half of said advantages I would build my dream life with them and shut the fuck up instead of complaining about not getting even more advantages.

Spyro7x3 · 2024-05-05T04:15:21+00:00

In my experience disappointment with a tinge of sadness is the words I'd use to describe it especially beautiful women are just very disappointing. God trolled us

WanabeInflatable · 2024-05-05T06:47:58+00:00

Generalization is wrong. And it is not about hate-love. OP misunderstands problem

Few men really hate women, I dare say there are much more women that hate men.

However:

A lot of men are afraid of women because how much harm women can do and get away with it.

A lot of men are jealous because they see "female privileges" and think life is unfair (women have it better)

Some men still think they are superior (e.g in intelligence) and expect women to be obedient and subservient.

giveuporfindaway · 2024-05-05T20:06:36+00:00

They're children with adult body parts. Unfortunately these traits cannot be compartmentalized. My interactions with them are a compromise. Well behave children are a result of their environment that I personally have no control over. Foreign women are just as childish, but they instinctively know they'll be punished for throwing too much tantrums in a low-trust poor societies.

ArtifactFan65 · 2024-05-05T01:54:54+00:00

I don't trust any animal including humans. I think women are hot and want to protect and have sex with them but that's about it. Unfortunately it's not safe to love and become vulnerable with anybody, unless you've found a unicorn they will betray you eventually. So I don't hate women as a whole, just wary/cautious of them.

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CraftyCooler · 2024-05-05T07:14:04+00:00

Majority - indifferent, they are pretty much in category 'human being' - their gender is irrelevant. I've dated quite a number of women and i'm a bit jaded - but it's pretty much result if mine poor choices, not really sone general failure of women. Feminists - dislike, I do not like hateful bigots - be it racists, antysemites, misandrists, misogynists etc. Modern feminism is bigotry filled with cynism. Girls from my region - a bit admire, they are tough girls from blue collar background. No bullshit, they know how to drink, they know how to kick ass, their language is far from poshy, they are self-confident but still family oriented. They do not need Feminist whining to prove their worth.

Hatespanch · 2024-05-05T08:49:47+00:00

Dislike as much I dislike most men

shadowrangerfs · 2024-05-05T14:03:13+00:00

Women as an entire group, indifferent. The same as every other group of people. I judge people as individuals.

untamed-italian · 2024-05-05T14:49:37+00:00

Women aren't a monolith and neither are my feelings towards them lol

Altair72 · 2024-05-05T16:57:43+00:00

I'm probably a bit prejudiced toward normies anyways. And much of what I don't like about women is the result of men, in that they are indecisive, repressed and disempowered. Some of it is physical strength, but weak men can still act like men no problem, so it shouldn't be impossible.

I guess what I mean is, I love the ethos of the fanfiction writing fujoshi, for what it symbolizes, for a small sliver of what women could be if they got to express themselves like men.

zamo96 · 2024-05-05T17:54:17+00:00

None of the above.

Women are just like men, they're all people so some are good, bad, they make mistakes, some you will look at as if they hung the stars in the sky and some you will look at as if they ruined your life. I wouldn't generalise all women because I don't generalise all men either.

bread93096 · 2024-05-05T20:48:28+00:00

I see women as being just like men, I don’t really believe in ‘innate psychological differences’ between us beyond a few trivial things. I’m also a solitary person and skeptical of people’s intentions, so I’d describe my feelings towards men and women as ‘wary’.

raldabos · 2024-05-06T01:26:52+00:00

Some are good, some are bad. Most suck at choosing partners, just like we men. They're not some kind of powerful holy angel that are attracted to virtous men, ya'll mostly attracted to the wrong traits in men, just like most men are attracted to the wrong traits in women.

We're more similar than different.

Title	Q4M: What's your feelings towards women?
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Date	May 5, 2024 1:11 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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