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[–]squeamish77 points 4 years ago [recovered] (20 children) | Copy Link
"Men who want to date them" is probably being generous for the kind of dudes who would hit on participants in a women's support group. "Men who want to fuck them" is likely more accurate.
You could make the same complaint about being a man on most sites that have anything to do with sex. "What do you mean you can't find anybody, you got 20 messages in your inbox?" "They're all either escorts or links to their OnlyFans." "Those are women, you're just too picky!"
[–]throwaway4plebbit 70 points71 points72 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The idea that the vast majority of guys just want to fuck is ridiculous. Most don’t but women have a talent for picking out the ones that do. Their own fault
[–]throwaway37865 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think this comment is pretty shitty. Just like how abusive partners don’t always seem abusive in the beginning, shitty people can manipulate and lead people on.
I think regardless of gender there are people out there that are much more manipulative and subtle in just getting sex and leading people on, I’ve seen plenty of posts from men who have had that experience from a woman. In those situations it has nothing to do with picking ability if someone false advertised. The only thing that’s on them is if they continue to stay with someone like that
[–]neolib-cowboy 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even if you dont realize ur doing it your still doing it.
[–]BaobabOFFCL 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because women don't have an issue with men that just want to fuck.
They have an issue with if the guy is ugly or a loser
Being hot or being seen as a winner/champion are the only requirements
[–]Obliviousnut_ 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you forget that the reason we as a species still exist is primarily because most guys just want to fuck
[–]Pnakotico31 67 points68 points69 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Except those men won’t have sex with those women by signing up on their OF. This is like saying poor people are just whiners because they could become rich by replying to the “Nigerian prince” emails they’ve been receiving.
[–]RuinedRaisins 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
That’s not at all what they were saying. They said that doesn’t count as making a connection/dating them. How does the fact that they can’t have sex with them pertain to anything??
[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Because having to vet potential sexual parteners that try to present themselves as good as possible is what makes you NOT forever alone, by definition. Also those men express a form of desire towards those women, albeit sexual, but a form of natural human connection nevertheless.
Women trying to sell sex to guys or make them subscribe to personal pornography via OF is really far away from any form of desire or genuine atention.
[–]Snacksbreak 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Offering to use someone as a flashlight isn't really offering genuine human connection.
If all these lonely men get offers for someone to peg their asshole and then bounce, are their intimacy/loneliness problems solved?
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I mentioned that in my comment. I will reiterate: receiving attention and offers, even sexual, means that there are people that desire you. Forever alone guys and girls (?!?) miss exactly that: people that desire them. You can agree with me on the next statement, for example: if you are even a subpar looking girl and message a desperate guy on the internet with the shittiest vibe of “lets fuck”, he will make the absolute possible to meet you and whatever.
Go on forever alone sub and see what kind of stuff those people are dealing with.
I dont know if the offers the girls in the post received are “yooo lets fuck and the you can get the fuck out of my life” but imagine not having at least that much to offer.
Forever alone is exactly that: nobody wants to do anything with you, nobody giving you attention, nobody caring you exist in any medium (online or irl).
[–]Snacksbreak 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'd rather get nothing than get that type of offer. It's pure disrespect and contempt. I've never been pleased or flattered when I get those types of approaches. It is sickening.
That's what the forever alone people don't get. Being treated like a subhuman cumdumpster isn't better than being left alone. Being screamed at abusively while walking down the street isn't better than going about your day unbothered.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are absolutely right, it’s an old issue. The thing is those are not the only type of messages. Even respectful messages meant to naturally interact with someone intending to date or whatever are seen as “unwanted attention”. This argument is so easy to use in so many ways since it’s about wanting or not wanting something. The post says “to date them” so…?!?
What’s the point of this post and thread is to imagine that even though you only get shitty messages ALL the time (which, mind you, it’s statistically impossible), is to imagine men don’t have at least that opportunity to say “a random nobody wants to fuck me”. “No reachable soul on earth wants to have sex with me and we have the fucking internet”.
I once posted a beach photo on instagram and a random girl (seemed like a real person not a bot) said something along the lines of “you have a really nice frame”. That was 8 years ago and I still get a dopamine rush on thinking about that. It was the only time in a period of some years that someone acknowledged that I have a quality. Meanwhile things got better. There is a massive ammount of guys that are completly starved of any kind of attention and it’s really fucking you up when you’re young. That’s my only point.
[–]Snacksbreak 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah I realize it says "to date them" but there's no way to gauge what that actually means. What types of messages were being sent? And for that matter, it's the internet. Who the hell solicits a sexual relationship via something like reddit? That's weird and concerning to begin with.
Given that so many women experience a significant subset of men being aggressive and/or disrespectful in seeking sex/relationships, women are often extra cautious and distrustful of men they do not know... especially randoms in their DMs.
Personally if I was on a subreddit like "forever alone women" I would not respond to DMs either. By being in that group you're broadcasting potential vulnerability. Anyone finding you that way has a higher likelihood of predatory behavior.
I'm not saying lonely men have it easy. Their pain matters. They just don't understand women's experiences. They're looking at it through their own lens and missing a lot of nuance.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Again, your perspective is correct.
You are confirming my view also by the first part of your response. “…no way to gauge what that actually means”. We can extract that at least one message was sent with a legit intention for connection, maybe not even dating per se but at least not with predatory “like a fleshlight” intent.
Like men can’t understand the feeling of being courted by dubious individuals with potentially malicious intent, women can’t understand the absolute starvation of opposite sex interaction men deal with. Of course, there are exceptions on both cases.
I found this conversation pretty informative. Thank you!
[–]John_OakmanLVM advocate 327 points328 points329 points 4 years ago (173 children) | Copy Link
Society at large don't see LVMs as men, so therefor they don't count towards any positive statistics while counting towards all negative statistics.
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[–]ManzBearzPigzIzRealz 73 points74 points75 points 4 years ago (58 children) | Copy Link
Isn’t that why the first few iterations of The Matrix failed? The AIs created a utopia and the human’s minds rejected them.
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[–]LordCommanderBlack 54 points55 points56 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
"Peace has cost you your strength. Victory has defeated you."
-Bane
[–]dbz19No Pill 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'M NESHASHARY EVIL
[–]dbz19No Pill 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
YOUR PRESHAS ARMOURY
GRATEFULLY ACSHEPTED
[–]dbz19No Pill 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
AH YESH I WASH WONDERING WHAT WOULD BREAK FIRST
YOUR SHPIRIT
OR YOUR BODY
[–]ManzBearzPigzIzRealz 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (41 children) | Copy Link
I think the pendulum will swing the other way at some point. Hopefully it doesn’t result in our total destruction?
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
And I thought my North Korean relatives were paranoid….
[–]Hosj_KarpBlue Pill Man 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Literally no one stands to benefiting from destroying the world. People in power act out of rational self-interest, not sociopathic sadism. Easy to believe conspiracy theories when you genuinely don't understand how the world works.
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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or the right sociopathic sadist. It only takes one.
The last big one was 80 years ago.
It's not a matter of if, but when.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
literally no one could do something I cant imagine myself
TFW you failed to pass Piaget’s stage 3 development and can’t see things not from your own perspective
[–]Hosj_KarpBlue Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Try actually offering a reason wanton destruction benefits anyone, asshole.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What is Marx’s Eternal Revolution for $100, Alex
[–]ObviouslyAnAltAct -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not true. Many would benefit significantly by reducing the population by vast swaths through whateber means (disease being a primary potential method). But destroying the world itself? Yeah no one actually benefits.
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
We're not going to launch missiles when the supervirus is unleashed on the world.
We're going to shame people asking questions and protect the perpetrators from "racism".
We're a woke, dumbfuck world now.
We're going to have cartoon eyes while our enemies slowly push their knives into us.
[–]Decent_Foundation_622 points 4 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
If western intelligence agencies had credible evidence that a foreign power created a super virus to try and genocide us we would absolutely respond with a countervalue second strike.
[–]Insidious-Sid1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
There would be no time.
We would have to already have a super virus in wait, a plan for distribution of the virus, AND a plan for distribution of the anti-virus to friendlies.
What you're saying is akin to inventing a nuke once we detect nukes coming in our direction.
[–]AmirIsBackRed Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I wish this was true because I'm 20 and would be part of that 10-20% survivors. No wait, more dying doesn't make me rich fuck.
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[–]AmirIsBackRed Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I choose to believe you mean bitcoin miner. Right? Right?
[–]hodlbtcxrp -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It would be good if this is actually true. The world is overpopulated.
[–]ManzBearzPigzIzRealz 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It’s really not.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It's not if we all live in grass huts and eat fish. But we don't. And those who do want to trade in their huts for homes and fish for restaurants.
If we all (and that includes China and India) want to have "Western World" living standards. And of course, WHO ARE THEY to desire nice 1500 square foot heated homes and grocery stores full of food? Don't THEY realise that the world can't sustain 1st World lifestyles for EVERYBODY?!
How selfish! (sarcasm /off)
Reality: How selfish are we to enjoy our lifestyles and then grimace in silence as other countries raise their living standards...
Population growth in light of India rapidly industrialising is a double-edged sword. This isn't sustainable.
[–]OwOFemboyUwU 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The industrial revolution and its consequences…
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Pass me another lard sandwich.
[–]Caring_CactusPurple Pill Man 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (98 children) | Copy Link
I'm overgeneralizing, it's almost like women get too much validation which increases their standards while looking for the next best thing, and men don't get enough which causes them to lower their standards while also looking for the next best thing.
Regardless of the sex, I think both experience the hedonic treadmill effect, which "is the observed tendency of humans to quickly return to a relatively stable level of happiness despite major positive or negative events or life changes."
I think this is why a lot of people think they're settling or try to get more, humans are hard to satisfy because they overestimate the present and underestimate the future.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (92 children) | Copy Link
As someone in a happy relationship, I disagree completely. I genuinely like my significant other and enjoy his company. If I never met him, I’d be satisfied dying alone even with moments of loneliness or longing for companionship.
I think that for thousands of years, women were forced to either pair with men and give them children or live a life as a desperately poor, miserable social pariah.
For most of modern recorded history, women paired with men overwhelmingly out of social duress and fear of being “tribe-less” (ridiculed for not having children, broke, alone, seen as broken for not being paired). The fact that the contrary has only been true in masse now for maybe 50 years (and that’s being very generous) seems to be overlooked in these gender role discussions. Bottom line, for most of recorded history, women paired with men because it was a compulsory requirement or you were viewed as strange and even worthy of unhealthy shaming and dehumanization.
Now that taking care of ourselves economically and not having to pair for survival and social acceptance is necessary, women are left trying to figure out what to do when they are completely fine with rejecting men who they have no compatibility with.
For centuries no one gave a shit if a woman didn’t feel compatible or in love with her husband. Just shut up and be a dutiful wife so you don’t starve to death and be socially stoned.
Now that marrying out of social duress isn’t necessary, modern women have to learn to be okay with being alone and childless and not looking at that as some kind of moral failing. If you don’t find the average man interesting or attractive enough to commit to, that’s your business. If anyone tries to make a woman feel bad for that, she should ask herself who benefits if she forces what doesn’t come naturally for her with some guy. Certainly not her. What’s the incentive for that?
Spend your younger years with some guy who doesn’t really do it for you, combine assets, have kids, just to end up dissatisfied and trapped one day…or worse every feeling like a dissatisfying trap…?
Women are naturally communal so there’s no good reason why single women can’t build communities among themselves and nurture one another in an environment in which vulnerability and self realization is ideal.
Also we need to understand that being lonely doesn’t halt because you’re paired with someone. If you are unable to be content alone, being paired won’t Magically fix you.
Right before I met my man, I decided that I can’t force attraction/compatibility, nor can I force the men I actually do like to be my ideal partner…and I refused to try just because I’m over 30 and single. Once that desperation for companionship left, it was easier to appreciate a man I actually liked because I wasn’t madly hoping it would turn into a marriage or some other serious connection. Things just flowed naturally with a man I genuinely like, not some jerk or troll who I’m trying to see with rose colored glasses because he claims to be looking for something serious.
Also, this “pairing under social duress” created several generations of women who weren’t even romantically attracted to men to believe there’s something wrong with them, when they’re just lesbian or asexual. I believe asexuality is very common in women but women are taught that they as re defective when they aren’t willing to let a man penetrate their body. I also believe that many women were attracted to women but lived and died forcing heterosexuality on themselves. My mother was one of those women. She adopted me to get people off her back about her possibly being a lesbian when it was clear to me as a child that she didn’t really want children or a man. Very sad way to live.
There are currently 100 million more men on earth than women, so naturally, a significant portion of the male population won’t have children, won’t pass on genetics, and won’t beat other men for access to resources including the affections and wombs of women. That’s the reality. With that said, it’s selfish for men to feel entitled to companionship with women. Let women decide who they will and won’t pair with and accept your lot in life graciously. That’s what women have had to do for centuries when they couldn’t marry for reasons beyond their control, but still had to suffer the shame and ridicule heaped on so called ‘spinsters’.
It’s self centered and childish to think being born male means you are supposed to be exempt from not being able to procure a mate for reasons beyond your control.
When men blame women rejecting the advances of men on “the excessive amount of validation” they believe women are receiving, they are once again blaming women for their perceived problems. It’s a refusal to deal in the realities created by an unbalanced social hierarchy that for thousands of years did not seriously consider the perspective and societal contributions of women.
The further a pendulum swings to one side, the further it it will eventually swing to the opposite side eventually.
[–]TriggurWarningPurple Pill Man 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Except resource scarcity is a part of nature, and the excess resources available to both men and women today are arguably an economic aberration, and not one humans are well adapted to yet at all, ergo, while the modern era may be very freeing for certain women who had no choices in the past, they're also arguably less happy than they were in the past, and the end result of this social experiment will be societal collapse as the birthrate continues to go down. Cultures that thrive in the future will restrict the freedoms of women, because they destroy society itself. Cultures that don't will be replaced. I don't like it, but it's the truth.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The most primitive cultures on earth right now restrict the rights of women and are extremely punitive against them. They also are the places most likely to see a drastic difference in population balance between men and women. All first world countries have about a 50/50 ratio of men to women. In places like India and China, (where killing female infants and femcide is or was practiced up until the early 2000’s) men outnumber women as high as 4 to 1 in major cities. Making women a scarcity gives women power passively. The two most important natural resources on earth are water and pussy. Run out of either and extinction is imminent.
Freedom of women is categorically a sign of homeland security, government stability, military strength(or an abundance of peace), a robust economy, more social equity and mobility, food security, a stable and effective healthcare system and a host of other creature comforts.
The doomsday theory that women are destroyers of civilized society is glaringly false, past false really. It’s an outright lie. Red pillers hold up g-d damn nazi sympathizers to try to support that theory, which is so ill-conceived you should be ashamed that you’ve repeated it. If women have significantly done anything to ruin society, what they’ve actually done is more along the lines of:
encouraging the Atlantic slave trade by benefiting directly from it through their fathers and husbands,
cover up the deviancy of the powerful and influential men they marry as to not mess up their meal ticket
agree with oppressive men that the right to control who is born and when should be left in the hands of male politicians
Voting for (male) Demagogues to preserve or expand racial, soci-economic, and socio- political hierarchies that disenfranchise and dehumanize the majority of citizens on earth
Villinize other women for demanding autonomy and opportunity.
Is this amateur hour?
[–]captaindestucto 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link
Nobody is talking about forcing anyone, that's a tired strawman. Yes many/most women had no agency but neither did many men have the option of marrying in earlier societies.
It's the social dynamics of contemporary society plus innate instincts that impact happiness. You're arguing it's the lot of large numbers of men to remain alone and also that they should not express discontent, but you're not choosing to live that way which says it all. This is not a standard for you but for those subhuman 'others'.
A lot of PPD/FDS women have something approaching genocidal attitudes towards lower status men.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
“Large number of lower class men were prevented from marrying outright”
Yes, that’s because patriarchy doesn’t work without men with more resources gaining access to more women. Patriarchy is about who can dominate whom. Not social equity.
The historical position is very much relevant here, to those who aren’t trying to blame women for their lack of romantic prospects. When you put the current state of male and female relationships in historical context, the way things are currently track without being forced or playing the blame game.
[–]captaindestucto 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
That's a neat way of removing responsibility from women choosing to follow their hypergamous instincts (when they support themselves, or choose someone at their level and still live comfortably). Women in the developed world have complete agency now. The current state of dating reflects these preferences.
[–]Cupcakelover1985 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Would you be ok with a woman who’s not attracted to choosing you simply to defy her instincts?
[–]captaindestucto 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'd be okay with honesty, for people to stop assuming every romantically invisible man must be a POS or pretending the playing field in somehow level.
Just have empathy. It's not that hard....or maybe it is.. we are talking about males here I guess. Actually, nevermind.
[–]Cupcakelover1985 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Honesty about what?
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[–]nicethingyoucanthaveRed Pill Male 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
For centuries no one gave a shit if a woman didn’t feel compatible or in love with her husband.
Then why was so much culture centered around:
admiring women
venerating women
wooing women
commemorating women
Why all the songs about loving women? Why all the verse? Why the cliches like "happy wife; happy life?" Why invent ceremonies? Why have the concept of ceremonial love? Why invent chivalry? Why have traditions like opening doors or standing when the lady stands?
What possible function does any of this serve in a culture where we don't "give a shit" what the object of these constructs thinks??
If you think about an historical period where a culture unambiguously didn't give a shit about a group's feelings, do you still find any of these things? A great example is slavery (and it's not unusual for feminists to claim that women were slaves). In states where slavery was legal, did they erect statues to slaves? Did they "woo" the slaves they bought in the market? Did they write songs about how wonderful the slaves are?
I think you've been fed a revisionist version of history.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And to speak to your little slavery comment, my grandmother’s mother was born a slave. So I will say with my whole chest BOTH TIDDIES that for a very long time, marriage was ABSOLUTELY slavery for women. There were actually women in my lineage who gasp married their actual owner.
There were levels to slavery. African slaves and livestock were about on the same level, then poor children who were forced to do dangerous labor, then indentured servitude, then (white) women in a marriage. All of the above were considered property, sub human, lowly, less intelligent or less valuable than men, and went uncompensated completely or partially for hard labor. Many died in service to their masters. There were no laws against a man beating his wife until about 60 years ago. So what else am I making up about history?
[–]nicethingyoucanthaveRed Pill Male 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
my grandmother’s mother was born a slave
Irrelevant. My point stands. I literally said that slaves were the exception so replying, "slavery!" is just further conceding that I'm right and you're wrong.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bringing up the fact that African slaves were treated worse than (white) women when there were female and married African slaves makes you right about nothing.
The fact that cows are killed and consumed on a larger scale than dogs doesn’t make cruelty against dogs non existent. Your argument is so fallacious and simple minded that it’s insulting that I’m replying to you at all.
Your thought isn’t even fully formed or clearly made. There isn’t one thing I said that can be categorized as wrong.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Well if you are trying to convince an adult of sound mind to give up their family name and identity, risk their life several times to birth more humans (preferably sons), have sex on demand whether they are attracted to you or not, give up control of any resources they’ve earned or inherited, give up any relenting hope that they can have a life outside of glorified housemaid, sex servant, baby machine, and in many cases punching bag…among a host of other things …you damn sure better come with a song, a poem, a ceremony, or some promise of a sliver of a happy life.
And let’s be perfectly clear, romance and marriage is a VERY modern concept. My mother was born in 1950, my 94 year grandmother was born in 1927. Neither of them got married in rual Louisiana because my father or grandfather serenaded them and recited Shakespeare under their window. They got married so they had hope at moving to a larger city where they didn’t have to sharecrop in order to not starve to death come winter.
My version of events is rooted in REALITY, you’re the one who has a romanticized perspective (pun intended) of what womanhood has looked like in the past century.
[–]Specialist-Company24 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Gurl why the hell are you wasting your educated mind on these basement dwelling cockroach incels.
They don't deserve a debate or a response. Let them cry over their fantasized persecution and go support women's access to basic rights like inheritance and chosing your spouse, which they still don't have in a lot of countries where men behave exactly like these airheads.
As for you airheads, if you want women to not have rights why don't you just move to a country where they don't have any?
[–]nicethingyoucanthaveRed Pill Male 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
…you damn sure better come with a song, a poem, a ceremony, or some promise of a sliver of a happy life.
Note that you just conceded the point to me. You started off claiming that "no one gave a shit" and now you're conceding that yes, women did have to be convinced, which means people did give a shit what they thought.
trying to convince an adult of sound mind to give up their family name and identity
That's the feminist narrative. Another narrative is that a healthy family is one where the partners combine to, you know, form a family. Doing that isn't "giving up your identity"
Yes, traditionally the new family uses the man's last name. But your feminist narrative presupposes you to view that negatively. If it just so happens that the tradition was to take the woman's last name, you would still view it negatively. That's just what you do. You'd probably say something like, "the man gets a free new start literally stealing the wife's family name THIS IS OPPRESSION!!!"
You're always going to describe every situation that way. I mean look at this:
risk their life several times to birth more humans
As though her risk due to childbirth is greater than the male's risk protecting and providing for the family. We know that isn't true based on the age of our Y-chromosome ancestor vs. the age of our mitochondrial ancestor.
But this never even crosses your mind because you are primed by feminism to only see one thing. It's frankly sexist.
romance and marriage is a VERY modern concept.
....he says, without a shred of self awareness, in reply to a comment where I cited several sources that are hundreds of years old.
The point I was making (and I was right) is that obtaining a woman's consent has always been a prerequisite to human reproduction. Women's consent is why men have an instinct of love. If you don't see what I'm getting at, just let me know.
My mother was born in 1950, my 94 year grandmother was born in 1927. Neither of them got married in rual Louisiana because my father or grandfather serenaded them and recited Shakespeare under their window.
I think it's sad that you believe your grandfather didn't love your grandmother. I encourage you to call your mother right now - I'm not kidding, right now - and ask if she has any letters that your grandfather wrote to his bride.
I am seriously feeling pity for you right now that you would write that about your own ancestors.
My version of events is rooted in REALITY
No, it's obviously not since I'm so easily able to shoot it all down.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And there are no god damned letters my grandparents were barely literate and if they weren’t they were too busy trying to beat off state sanctioned violence against black people and poverty write letters. Grow up you sound like a Disney narration.
My mothers dead and I never said my parents and grandparents didn’t love each other. My point is marrying for love is a modern and commercial ideology.
As to everything else that you said, the fact that all of history is recorded by and centered on the male experience is what makes a so called “feminist narrative” even necessary. History is recorded taught and interpreted damn near as if women didn’t exist or just sat quietly observing until they were told to do something.
It’s easy to dismiss the perspective of women historically when every man ever for the past 5000 years has done exactly that.
“Feminist narrative” is just this century’s version of “old wives tale”. It all language weaponized against perspectives that challenge the dominant narrative told solely from the perspective of white males.
When men say that women are evil and god left men in charge to keep women in line that’s called “religion”. When men say women have been given all their rights by men that’s called “politics”. When men say that the real work is in protecting and providing for a family that’s called “patriarchy”. Give me a fucking break.
[–]Artiemcfly88 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
TLDR version: “ women had it bad in the past so now it’s men’s turn”
[–]BaobabOFFCL 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've noticed alot of women have a chip on heir shoulder on this topic.
They genuinely want revenge
[–]partsunknown99 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Damn right.
[–]_Oh_Be_Nice_Lilith's Misogynistic Hitachi Wand 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Boy howdy, that'll solve problems.
/s
Sorry y’all live in the Metaverse but the real world has universal laws that apply to everyone.
As previously stated, the further a pendulum swings one direction, the more momentum it has to swing in the opposite direction.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Way to much text to justify the current trend of social and soon economic disbalance with the status quo from over 50 years ago. Pretty convenient since only extremely few women in the relevant age bracket even got to live in this time but still making this their main arguement.
It only works for the older ladies who actually got affected by it unlike the spoiled coddled princesses who grew up in a time of girl favouring education, women promoting programms and what ever they will soon install to further "making it fairer".
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
So you mean to tell me that there’s no way a woman currently in her 30’s was affected by the social status quo that only ended 20 years before she was born 🤔
So you’re saying that thousands of years of engineered human behavior stopped immediately and entirely in just one generation…and has been effectively reversed in less than 50 years?
Please don’t allow your cognitive dissonance to make a fool of you.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
not more than men are affected by the feminist shift. Absolutely.
Social engineering is the key word. Which gender is pushed forward and which gender is restricted with todays medial and societal influence? How is the current societies narrative in this regard? Stop the caty newman shit.
You have it backwards. From school over university till the first management levels. In these segments there are only advantages of being a woman while there is nothing officially only for men.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So women have been actually banned from formal education, economic participation, and politics for 500 years and you think the same thing is currently being done to men? You think someone is actively stopping men from doing anything of note?
I’m sorry, when did the majority of law makers, judges, police officers, college deans and professors, millionaires, billionaires, successful business owners, history book authors, religious leaders, gods, historical heros, scientist, doctors, best selling authors, tech tycoons, television writers directors and producers, movie writers directors and producers, world leaders, successful musicians, record label executives, Fortune 500 executives, middle management at major corporations, I could go on…but when did the majority of these roles stop being filled by men? Is there a law that men can’t own property? Are men not allowed access to any industry just because they are men? Have you been denied an opportunity you were actually qualified for because you’re a man? If not you than who?
Sounds like the only thing men currently have less access to than ever before is women. So what the hell are you talking about?
You are repeating yourself over and over again with your "muhh history" arguement and once again wasting way to many words for something that can be completely covered in one single sentence.
You are just blind that the pendulum already swung well over the point of equality (not as far as it was before on the other side i give you that) and NO ONE should care about any status quo of the past especially if it's no longer the case. I couldn't care less about the privilege some old geezer had 50 years ago because i don't have it right now. And you shouldn't care about the lack of rights and oppurtunities (other) women had in the past because you have them now.
Obviously nothing is excluding men from anything at least "officially" spearking but as these promotions throughout the common path are excluding the men barely making the cut. They get left behind for "diversity" reasons as it's how they work. And this wall isn't invisible unlike the famous feminist counterpart.
But i find it always interesting that your cute little counting is focusing solely on prestigious jobs and titles but you know what? Which jobs were historically done by 99% of men and are STILL done by 99% of men today? Yes you get it. It's the underpaid, dangerous and essential jobs you feminists always love to ignore. And this is the only history arguement that should count because it's still prevalent today.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So what is your point? That men have always worked, earned money, and been seen as vital to societal life and the economy? Is that the point you’re trying to make. Okay whatever.
And why even mention the pendulum metaphor if you can’t even bring yourself to suppose that it has swung equally as far in the opposite direction? You do understand that this metaphor exist to illustrate how correction of structural discrimination works right?
The more a particular group of people dominate another, the more wrongs they will eventually have to right if civility is to prevail. The longer the crimes against other’s humanity went unchecked, the longer it will take to undo what was wrongfully and/or ignorantly done. So sell this bullshit that history has no bearing on the current state of affairs to some knuckle-dragging mouth breathing jackass who will agree with you to appease his little ego and stop wasting your time saying that nonsense to me.
The only time white males don’t rush to dismiss the past is when they are painted as the hero’s, Titans, winners, benevolent leaders, authors of modern society etc. That phenomena in and of itself is telling but mostly pathetic.
[–]BaobabOFFCL 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are oversimplying the issue.
Sounds more like you have an agenda than anything else
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The only thing you’re right about is that men are affected by women having more social equity and opportunity. The only way men are affected is that now they have to gain access to a better life because they earned it and not just because they are men. You don’t get a doting wife anymore just because women need husbands to survive. You don’t get a raise at work over the next man or woman just because you got a wife and a baby. Legally the woman who wants the same position you do can’t be disqualified just because she isn’t male. Boo fucking hoo.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm actually agree with you here but with the same logic women should just shut the fuck up with their gender imbalance crying whenever something isn't going their way for once.
And don't forget that we have to treat the reverse case also the same which means we have to end every affirmitive action, preferential hiring and every girls/women day get them into XXX because this means by definition that women get jobs and university places just because they are women and men get neglected because they are male.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So social programs put in place to reverse thousands of years of social conditioning that kept women severely underrepresented or grossly misrepresented in the economy, politics, media, etc is bad in your estimation? That tracks for an American white male.
[–]onewiththenoodles 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Do you think women are just handed a promotion or an education for being female? Those programs definitely don't work the way you think that they do.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The rule of thumb is "if everything being equal the women is prefered" in reality however women get away with being slightly worse and still prefered. Taking into account the educational landscape on top and you have a huge gap.
[–]onewiththenoodles 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You clearly don't know how these programs work.
In reality, a woman has to work more hard than a man to prove hherself.
Even then, men like you will act like it was handed to her....
Affirmative Action makes them need higher test scores
No it doesn’t, California
Affirmative action lowers the quality of applicants as always
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How does a woman has to work harder within these women promoting programms which by definition is made for women? I very well know how it works since we got such policies in our company in which i had to defend myself just because i've hired more boys and young adults than my predecessor. It was still more girls i've hired but it gives you a glance of companies mindset. Women have it easier entry level which is the most important step in someones career.
And if you complain about some percieved inconvenience about lack of respect or having to work harder to prove yourself than that is mostly installed by rampant feminism media. If you mean the higher echelon of management levels then you are right because there are still way more (older) men than women but since these positions are such rare this is neglectable.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ps, hope that wasn’t too many words for you 😬
[–]sokra3 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Speak less but tell more
[–]AloneMe_67654 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No reply..I am surprised.. I guess men are getting better at ignoring women..which they should really do..
I did not care to even read.. beyond
As someone
why do women ... start everything with
"as a woman"
"as someone"
"as ..."
I don't care what you are.. because you don't care who I am.. and I am generalizing it on all women... I hope most men will understand that to not give any validation to any woman at all, is in their best interest... ppl often tell you, you need to try else some other man will take her, but they tell this to every man..
All you are left with is 100,000 men trying for 1 woman cause they all believe if they don't try someone else will take the woman.. we all know who gets her in the end.. that good looking guy who has top 5% genes .. why even try and make your life miserable...
Someone did reply but deleted it because they didn’t have a real counterpoint just like you don’t.
[–]AloneMe_67654 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
buhaaaa. I don't care.. go to hell
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Someone hit a nerve
[–]Caring_CactusPurple Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (22 children) | Copy Link
That's a lot of text to unload, not sure if you could have said the same thing more succinctly with less, but I'll read through it.
Right off the bat, I already said I was overgeneralizing, of course not all women/men (humans) are going to be part of the generalization. If it doesn't fit you specifically great, it doesn't concern you imo.
If I never met him, I’d be satisfied dying alone even with moments of loneliness or longing for companionship.
That's a contradiction, and I would argue still you're right because there are other ways to feel connected socially and environmentally with others, but the typical person isn't.
Your whole blurb on women's history, I agree too, my personal opinion is the patriarchy isn't necessary, it can be clearly seen today. I would argue what's going on with woman today is more related to the human experience as a whole, and men are experiencing this too since it takes two to tango, one side shifting towards more independence is going to cause the other to do the same, which I think can also be seen happening today.
The rest of what you said I don't think disagrees with what I first said, just goes more on a tangent to the topic of women's history you brought up (which is a bit unrelated to my main point of the hedonic treadmill effect humans experience).
Edit: grammar
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
It’s not a contradiction because I just happened to meet someone who actually was able to show that their presence did not diminish or pale in comparison to my contentment being alone. As far as your generalization, it doesn’t work because generalizations need to apply to an overwhelming majority to reflect some semblance of truth and/or reality. Most women do not experience some grand level of validation from the opposite sex. And no one needs to validate why they reject anyone or prove they are truly lonely by pairing or giving any level of access to any random who dms them.
None of these conversations work outside of the context of status quo human behavior that preceded the current flux and transition we are in as far as human relationships.
Even the fact that there are currently 100 milllion more men on earth than women is a result of thousands of years of believing that female children were an economic burden and male children were an economic asset. Men try to isolate our current issues in a historical vacuum to force theories that ideologically and pragmatically place the blame on women. The truth is, nearly all of the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of patriarchy and there’re not way around it.
That’s exactly why I fleshed out my thought in the way that I did. The (selective) lack of historical context in these discussions is a bore and counterproductive.
[–]captaindestucto 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (19 children) | Copy Link
Relationships involve a significant risk to mental and financial well-being,yet most people take that risk. I don't think any of us are really buying that claim that it's normal to be content alone as clearly most people aren't.
Any average woman just needs to create an OLD account. It's really that simple. You don't see it as validation because it's like background noise from suboptimal low value men, but it's there nevertheless.
Also in every population slightly more males are born. It's an evolutionary adaptation due to the higher mortality rate for males.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
If you think men outnumbering women by 100 million is a natural occurrence you’re misinformed. You can thank femicide, and infant femcide for that. Under normal Circumstances (read in places where women and babies aren’t murdered just for being female) the rate at which male babies outnumber female babies is immaterial. It doesn’t deviate far from 50/50 at all.
Discontentment is a state of mind and being paired doesn’t eradicate it and that’s my point. Humans are communal and need to be around other humans, but that doesn’t always mean romantically. I’d even venture to say that women who have a solid circle of female friends and family members whether they are paired with someone or not tend to be happier women. That’s my opinion.
Scientifically speaking, the belief that everyone should have a dedicated mate is forced and not organic. Some humans are genetic dead ends, some humans just will not have a love interest. If you’re meant to have that I believe in due season you will. But because it’s something beyond most of our control (you can’t force anyone to love you, like you, be sexually attracted to you) as an adult you better be okay being alone and find some joy in it.
Even if you do romantically pair with someone, you’re not guaranteed to always be with them. The idea that anything or anyone apart from yourself will eradicate your discontentment is silly and childish. To that point, in my experience, this is something men have a harder time coming to grips with. Which is why past 35, you’re more likely to see a man being desperate for companionship than a woman of the same age.
Men’s desperation for companionship is an actual stimulator of economic activity. Call girls, cam models, high profile escorts, trophy wives, sugar babies etc will always have customers, clients, and benefactors, majority of them being male. That’s actually a red pill talking point…the idea that older men can get female companionship if they’re willing to pay for it. It’s just desperation rebranded.
[–]Caring_CactusPurple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most people I think don't have that high level of emotional intelligence, or a good support system in place to think the same as you. Even if someone were to meet the same person you did, their experience will likely differ depending on their level of self-understanding.
As far as your generalization, it doesn’t work because generalizations need to apply to an overwhelming majority
So you're saying most people are content being happy on their own, and are fine dying alone despite moments of longing and companionship?
The rest of what you said, again isn't really related to what I first brought up, and it's becoming a red herring to my main argument... Because I agree with your separate topic that the patriarchy was problematic.
Women are designed to make everyone miserable.
[–]DaechiDragon 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, we’re designed so that only the fittest survive.
[–]rick-dicking-morty 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Society at large don’t see low-value females as women, too.
[–]Casanova-QuinnRed Pill Man 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think the "invisibility" of LVM is probably one of the biggest sources of confusion in the dating world. Whenever women talk about dating issues, it’s almost always more accurate to add “attractive” into their statements.
[–]thelastjeka 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I rather die alone than give random creeps online looking to capitalize on my vulnerability the time of day. Die mad about it, losers.
[–]BaobabOFFCL 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So you don't think a single one of these dudes would have good intentions?
[–]thelastjeka 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not a single one had an intention outside of wanting to get laid.
[–]BaobabOFFCL 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How would you know that exactly?
[–]DarkSp3ctre 133 points134 points135 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If a random woman DMed me about a date I’d think something is up and I’m about to get pranked or scammed. Same logic as these ladies I’d imagine.
[–]lulumeme 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Esp if its 100km or more away. Not saying LDRs dont happen but most of the time you want closeness
[–]SqueaksScreech 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of subs went private because of this. Even SA survivor subs went private because people kept pulling this shit.
[–]ThisBoringLifeLife is a mix of pills 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm always a bit cautious of random women DMs on dating apps, because they tend to just be ads for camgirl sites or someone's snapchat/IG
[–]holy_devil999Magenta Pill 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Getting hit by men as woman is not the same thing like getting hit by women as man
[–]lordofcin_2 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I did get a random woman DMing me asking if I wanted to be her “femboy slave” (am femboy btw) and I told her that I was 16 (at the time I was)
[–]neetykeeno 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well...yeah? People who want you immediately in a goal directed way for a very specific thing are different creatures when it comes to alleviating loneliness than people who just kind of like you personally and are happy to experience a more relaxed, undemanding and freeform set of interactions that have a wider range of potential outcomes.
I mean we all know you can work in a crowded workplace where everyone is on to everyone else for stuff all day...and be even lonelier than you started after a day at work.
[–]DiamondLilyD 77 points78 points79 points 4 years ago (51 children) | Copy Link
Date or have sex with them?
[–]Krachsterben 85 points86 points87 points 4 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link
This. Men will literally have sex with anyone and anything. This doesn't help women feel less lonely lol
[–]DiamondLilyD 86 points87 points88 points 4 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link
Men be like 'We're willing to masturbate into your body and treat you like a toilet' WHY AREN'T YOU GRATEFUL?!
[–]FewAbbreviations9468 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
101% TRUE
[–]DrBobyRed Pill dad 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
It's only true for some women. Some women are only worth masturbating into, it's true.
[–]antinatalistic_soup 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
On what planet do you think it’s okay to use somebody like that? How do you even try to justify something so sick?
[–]DrBobyRed Pill dad 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Being offended is not an argument.
[–]AverageQuake 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
all you said was "it's true" you didn't provide an argument either lol
[–]DrBobyRed Pill dad 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Random personal attacks are not an argument either.
[–]BaobabOFFCL -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's the game we're playing.
Both men and women do this
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
that’s the worst part, i hate that men are like that yet if you’re an attractive guy women love it
[–]DiamondLilyD 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
yet if you’re an attractive guy women love it
No they don't.
Most women aren't interested in casual sex and most women aren't on dating apps, most men don't even notice these women though.
[–]SilentFroggy 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The women who aren’t interested in casual sex still want good looking guys
[–]DiamondLilyD 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What does that have to do with the original point?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Are you really that stupid? That's exactly what the posts says. Good guys that want to commit to girls still get rejected because they are not Chads.
Those self proclaimed “good guys” usually have nothing to offer and aren’t as good as they think. They want to act like “Chads” without actually putting any work into themselves
[–]BaobabOFFCL 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You are 100% wrong
If the guy is hot, women absolutely do love being treated as a cum bucket
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Not true. No one likes being treated as a cum bucket. Literally women complain about this all the time
[–]SlightlyStalkerish 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yup; men outnumber women in online dating significantly.
[–]DiamondLilyD 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly, yet on here you still get autists 'REEEEEing' about 'muh chad'
[–]DiamondLilyD 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
can pm you for proof.
Go right ahead.
[–]DiamondLilyD 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Update: He's ugly
[–]ex_red_black_piller 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They seem happy being treated as a toilet if you're attractive enough.
Moral of the story? Be hot or die trying.
Exactly
[–]Outside_Sea8673 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or be rich lmao
[–]Mustbeaightmisogyny is a relegion and i am its Jesus 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Bitch. You’re dumb
[–]DiamondLilyD 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, I'm correct.
[–]Mustbeaightmisogyny is a relegion and i am its Jesus 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh my!! You just absolutely killed me here!!! How do I come back from this!!
[–]princelydeeds -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you're so pathetic that men will only masturbate into you, I actually feel sorry for you ....
[–]Krachsterben 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's called figurative speech lmaoooo
[–]onewiththenoodles 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hit the nail on the head.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
How would you know the difference if you aren’t willing to go on a date or get to know the person? “Well, I’ll just assume the worst, for the sake of it”
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah because “Hey babe, your body is probably so hot , pics please! 💦😍” is what you say when you DON’T just want nudes, and yeah every message is like that.
[–]DiamondLilyD 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
When bad things happen to women, we usually get blamed 'Oh well, you CHOSE him!' Considering that, we really can't afford to take chances.
I have never in my life seen a woman who has been cheated on and then blamed. That shit doesn’t happen
[–]DiamondLilyD 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It happens CONSTANTLY, 'Oh well maybe you were dating muh chad and deserved it for aiming too high', 'Maybe you didn't have sex with him or cook him dinner enough'.
We get the blame constantly.
[–]DiamondLilyD 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because we aren't responsible for another persons actions and we shouldn't take responsibility for it.
[–]BaobabOFFCL 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If they were hot, it would make no difference
[–]lingualistic 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Men buy flowers nowadays lol? Where?
Men want to put in negative effort. It’s really not worth it unless they’re hot or rich. Therefore women stay single if can’t find hot, and the more prostitutey ones if they can’t find rich. Me personally rich alone doesn’t work, both would certainly be nice, but I require attraction. But yeah. Fin.
[–]BaobabOFFCL 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for being honest.
"Be hot or successful or both"
Is what most men don't want to accept as the truth
[–]Outside_Sea8673 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I think most men accept that as the truth and are busting their ass at work trying to earn money lol
Other men just give up and complain online.
[–]BaobabOFFCL 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
nope. Most men in the west think they should be able to get a woman simply because they are men
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You mean they are behaving like a women ? I mean I wonder why though is it perhaps possible because masculinity is discouraged and punished in every stage of life ?
[–]BaobabOFFCL 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
yes thats exactly why.
and because of the rising rate of fatherlessness
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What would the presence of father do if everytime he tries to show masculinity he is called toxic ? I do agree on the problem of rise in fatherless families though. Well sexual revolution gave all the freedom with no responsibilities so it was only a matter of time I guess.
[–]BaobabOFFCL 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
being called toxic doesnt cause actual harm bro lol
look up the affect of having a father in a childs life vs not having one.
the benefits are literally too much to list
[–]clarbg -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Most men are kind of unattractive. They're not attractive enough to behave like women and just have one fall in their lap. Women are more attractive.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Men used to put in way more "effort" to show that they can provide safety and security to women. Now one wrong assumption and you will be labled misogynist who is looking down on a women. Not to mention women can get the safety and security on thier own now so the "effort" you speaking of is not the one that women want.
[–]HOLYREGIME 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A chad shortage.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chad famine, dick drought.
[–]FunnyElegance21 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A fufa
[–][deleted] 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There are if women knowingly consent to being part of his harem, while at the same time complaining that he won’t won’t commit, while at the SAME time continuing to allow him to use her as nothing more than a pump and dump whenever he’s bored
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chad’s gon chad
[–][deleted] 210 points211 points212 points 4 years ago2 (28 children) | Copy Link
Can’t believe women don’t want anything to do with random horny guys DMing them on the internet
[–]HOLYREGIME 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sounds like dating apps.
On a dating app you only get messaged by people you match with and choose to allow to DM you. Not random faceless people on Reddit
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Something something “it’s because I’m not CHAD!” something something will be the excuse
[–]princelydeeds 108 points109 points110 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
How dare men express interest in lonely women who are sad about being lonely.... Those perverts!
They must have ill-intentions, there is no way that lonely men, might be seeking lonely women... Can't happen. Those men must be (insert bad intentions).
[–]nicethingyoucanthaveRed Pill Male 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Those men must be (insert bad intentions).
That is unironically what a lot of reddit thinks. Out in the real world, I am friendly and talk to people all the time, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've been completely shot down like "don't talk to me" - so, real women generally enjoy social interactions and it's okay to talk to them if you're polite.
But when considering the idea of """approach""" it seems that women recall bad, awkward, uncomfortable, even scary situations they've been in, and assume that's what you're asking permission to do to them - and then inevitably tell you (on reddit): DON'T TALK TO US!
There's a reddit power user named /u/TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK who is pretty far from "red pill" but I saved a comment he posted about having asked women, how would you like us to approach you - and being surprised that the consensus was, "DON'T"
[–]BoostedThrower 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have said this before. Females are the best blackpill proof ever, exponentially more so than incels like me.
All a guy has to do is to observe just about any female on a dating app and you have all the proof you need that the blackpill is real.
[–]desperateseagull 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The men aren't bad people. But the woman wanting a relationship qnd rejecting men she's not attracted to is also valid. I'm a guy who wants a girlfriend and I get attention from women that are twice my age or morbidly obese. Doesn't mean I'm wrong for wanting a woman I find attractive
[–]lordofcin_2 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I’m sorry as a femboy who gets a lot of DMs from guys, 9/10 they just want sex so like…
[–]princelydeeds 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
As a dude, you're really comparing dudes trying to fuck another dude on the internet, to men trying to have relationships with single, available women with whom they could possibly procreate.... Because they are exactly the same thing... Dude.... 😂🤣😂🤣
[–]lordofcin_2 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I’m saying that this is what almost women experience
[–]princelydeeds 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are thinking that random men on the internet, should be seeking a stable relationship with you....
You really can't make this shit up....
[–]lordofcin_2 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When did I say they should be? I much prefer they not DM me asking for nudes
[–]cheezerrox 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You were very clear in your point. The other person was either being willfully ignorant or it just went over their head
[–][deleted] 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
How dare those privileged wahmen pass on the wonderful opportunity of being used for sex!! Because men totally don't want to commit to attractive women only!!
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]thelastjeka 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wrong. Men are by far much more shallow they just settle because sex is sex for them but if they ever even have the slightest chance with someone even .5% hotter they’ll take it, making them unreliable partners most of the time.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Men are fine committing to their looksmatch.
You must be a famous stand up comedian, can you send me your autograph 🤩
[–]OwOFemboyUwU 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Cope. You just don’t think this because what you think is your looksmatch is actually 2 SMV points above. We’ve all seen how women rate men, what they consider average is well above that - you can’t actually accurately judge your looksmatch because you end up severely underestimating the value of the opposing gender
[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Cope harder femboy
[–]Popeman79Red Pill Man 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No counter-argument + Attack ad-hominem
Nice..
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cope
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not according to this sub-Reddit
[–]princelydeeds -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know lots of friendly, feminine, fat/ugly broads with husband's...
[–]lulumeme 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro same
[–]holy_devil999Magenta Pill 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How you're so certain that they were just horny though
[–]goochiegg -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cause they are not hot and have little to no clout
[–]januaryphilosopherWoman/student/UK/radfem/makes first move/healthy BMI/bi/taken 68 points69 points70 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Considering that these guys are on the internet and unlikely to live nearby or meet up, I'm going to guess "date" means "send nudes" here.
[–]Need_wine 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The only reasonable reply….cause there’s nothing suspicious about strange men on an Internet forum wanting to date women they’ve never met.
[–]FirsToStrikePrefers Suppositories 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How's it different from them approaching you in a club?
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In a club at least you are able to see what the women you’re approaching looks like. These losers are dm’ing women they don’t even know if they find attractive.
[–]itshexx 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It’s 2022 now and I’ve known many people who never meet up and have good relationships online. I think it’s reasonable in the age of technology to use it to meet people regardless. Also a pandemic is a good incentive for online dating too! A lot of dudes will send nudes yes but closing off everyone and saying “I’m lonely” is setting yourself up for loneliness.
[–]januaryphilosopherWoman/student/UK/radfem/makes first move/healthy BMI/bi/taken 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
LDRs aren't known for working or being particularly good, especially when they started that way. If there's anything that the pandemic has taught us, it's that online isn't the same, and it's especially true of relationships.
[–]FirsToStrikePrefers Suppositories 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I for one think that online things have a better potential to work out, because more options (being not limited by geography) means being more likely to find someone compatible, who cares for what you have to offer and wants the same things as you. If you can schedule meeting each other often enough and have a plan to move in together eventually, it has great potential.
[–]mandoa_sky 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i'd wager that's the problem. the pandemic right now means that ANY plan that involves a lot of travel is a bigger headache than it's worth.
[–]throughalfanoirCovidCel 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I tried LDR without meeting, then meeting twice every year (distance/lack of funds), tried to make it work for 5+ years. In the longterm, it doesn't work, and not only because of the lack of physical contact, but also you are simply not as likely to be able to be present in the other's life (meeting friends/family, having shared experiences, spontaneity, in many cases there is language/culture barrier) and that's destructive to a relationship. it may work for some people, on the short term
If a random guy DMs me on reddit, good chance he is on a different continent than I am, obv I won't be interested in dating him (regardless of any of his attributes), as an LDR is not what I seek
Also there is the concept of that you go into some situations open to seeking out a relationship, but in some other situations you don't want to bother with that as that requires emotional energy/effort, and venting on a subreddit like that is def the second one for many ppl
[–]BaobabOFFCL 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
The only thing that's relevant is that the guys arent hot
[–]Pnakotico31 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To play as the Devil’s advocate, some couples actually met on Reddit. So it’s possible in some cases I guess.
[–]Muffcakelord 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
These men are the same men who send assault videos and other harassment to women on the SA survivor spaces. Women's loneliness won't be cured by dating rapey men, rapists, slutty men who use women for sex or whatever else bottom of the barrel dirt exists within the group of men who spam women on reddit with dms
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Of course, if anything bad ever happens to a man it's his own fault. He's probably a rapist. Women are always ethical with their mate selection so the man must be a serial murder.
[–]FantasticMidnight 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How the fuck did you get "women hate all men boohoo" out of "women don't want to date creepy men". Seems like projection to me.
[–]BaobabOFFCL 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are using the minority of men as an excuse to ignore/reject men with good intentions
You aren't fooling anyone
[–]Muffcakelord 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There's exactly 0 men doing this shit with decent intentions
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link
Most of those guys just want nsfw photos lol.
[–]Ask_For_Cock_PicsIntegrity is a Masculine Trait 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
Guys aren't as deceptive as women think. Its just that they show interest before knowing the girl's personality, and then afterwards go "Fuck no"
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
If saying “hey sexy, I bet you have a hot bod I would love to explore, pics please? 😍🍆💦” is what men say to women they want a committed relationship with, then i missed out on a ton of relationships lol.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
right, not even just straight up sexual messages ill have guys on reddit be like "hi youre pretty" and then the next message will be like "your boobs are HUGE😍😍💦"
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
right! Just a bunch of creeps preying on lonely women, OP’s post is so inaccurate 🤣.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
exactly! btw i checked your profile and you look great! dont be so hard on yourself about your body❤️
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wow thank you! 😩
[–]alialahmad1997No Pill 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I mean those are obvious we are not talking about those
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
its ONLY those, they aren’t any “interested” men, its only creeps.
[–]alialahmad1997No Pill 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Man I know a couple married out of one person finding the other attractive on fb and messeging her
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
on FACEBOOK! not on the r/ForeverAloneWomen . Those men who are stalking on there are SOLEY preying in desperate women for nudes. You would never know bc you are not a woman who posts there lol.
[–]alialahmad1997No Pill 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Fair point But the way I think it ugly men would also message them if they are desperate
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Trust me, if I had ONE actual interested suitor out of all the 300+ messages, I wouldn’t have made this comment. Literally every single message is infatuated with seeing my body in a sexual manner. THEY DONT WANT A RELATIONSHIP THEY WANT NUDES!! “Hey babe, may i see your tits? 😍💦” is not how you approach a woman you intend to marry… You wouldn’t understand and you wouldn’t ever know.
[–]DrBobyRed Pill dad -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You need to accept the fact your boobs are huge.
im 14
[–]DrBobyRed Pill dad -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You missed out a ton of relationships then. That's simply how unaware men talk.
And no men want a committed relationship with a stranger straight away.
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
so you go up to random woman and ask her for nudes??? thats how you get a girlfriend? LMFAOOO tf?
[–]lordofcin_2 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m sorry but I’m my experience as a femboy, I can safely say that most DMs I get from gay guys/guys that mistook me for a girl are for sex
Femboys and Asian women. The fact that I still have a Facebook is astounding.
[–]FewAbbreviations9468 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You want a man who doesn't sexually desire you?
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
no, I dont want to be preyed upon by creeps who JUST want nudes and e-sex. Those guys who pry on that sub reddit look for sad , lonely, desperate women who want validation and they get their photos and use them for their own pleasure. They are not looking for relationships they are looking for nudes and e-sex from a desperate woman.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You've spoken to each one of them?
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When I post there, they usually see my post history and immediately come to my DMs , calling me beautiful and wanting to “have fun” I got 300+ unopened messages on reddit of thirsty men.
[–]BacanaHeaven 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, she probably wants a man who both romantically and sexually desires her, and doesn’t DM random women on the internet who’ve expressed no interest in dating him. He probably sounds like a wh*re.
And most women want free shit from dudes, so we're equal
[–]CursedLemonA Bigger, Bluer Dick 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
lol what happened to this sub Jesus Christ
[–]ChadThundagaCockBorderline Personality Wrangler 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you BiggerDThanYou?
[–]ThisBoringLifeLife is a mix of pills 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Purge week.
The time of shit posting.
Gotta just wait out the week for some degree of normalcy.
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
By far the funniest part of this is at one time there wasn't a /r/foreveralonewomen. There was just /r/foreveralone. What happened was the women in the sub felt like their problems were being taken as seriously as men's problems so they split off into their own subreddit.
THEN they had to go private because of the above. To me this encapsulates so much of the issues with PPD and dating in the west in general. Stop gaslighting men that women have it just as bad but in different ways.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Women do have it as bad as men in different ways. If a woman is considered unattractive, she goes through life either being completely ignored by men or mistreated in subtle and overt ways. Women may not get rejected after approaching men because we don’t approach. But being ignored totally by most men is a form of rejection and it’s just as hard on a woman’s self esteem as being rejected is for men. Women get dumped or used by men out of their league just like men do.
[–]Spacct 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
So she experiences life as most guys do.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What's that quote about "when your treated equally after being used to privilege, it feels like oppression?"
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That was my point. It’s literally said plainly in the very first sentence.
[–]Spacct 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You said they experience it in different ways. It's not different. It's the same.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s different how it plays out because men and women are different, as are the expectations put on each. Similar but there are still fundamental differences in the ways it plays out.
[–]dysonRing 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
While it is true and I am guilty of ignoring them, they still have options to level up, a young fair looking woman can, although expensive, level up to the point I would be crazy attracted to her. Women don't really feel bad enough that they want to level up, so I always wonder if it is THAT bad.
[–]Illustrious_Plant265 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
There are several factors to consider here. If I was repulsive to 8 out of every ten men and it would cost me thousands of dollars to change that, it would come down to one of two things a. Could I afford that and would it be a wise investment if I can b. Do I actually want to change my appearance solely to attract men
There are several women who have counted up the cost and determined that for one reason or another, it’s either not possible or not worth it. Doesn’t mean they don’t suffer or feel lonely. I’m a pretty attractive woman, fit, nice smile, clear skin, flat stomach, large bust firm backside. Those things are genetic and cost me nothing, and naturally make me attractive to a fair amount of men. It can be very distracting, especially when a fair amount of men believe that because I’m physically attractive that my interest outside of sex with them and being their trophy is a waste of my time. Or the opposite end of the spectrum, they think me having interest besides them means I’m not interested at all because of their own insecurities.
If I wasn’t naturally attractive, knowing what I know about men, spending money to get and maintain good looks artificially would be a massive waste of resources. Men really take for granted that even lonely women don’t center men in their day to day lives, because it’s a bad investment of time and resources. Being attractive to men used to literally be taught in schools because getting married was an economic necessity for women. Since that’s changed, what woman has time for that when bills are due and most men couldn’t afford to fully support her even if they wanted to?
[–]dysonRing 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Yeah we are the same in a way, I too lucked out on genetics, but the difference is still that a lot of men (including myself) are extremely fair with regards to looks, literally any below average woman in her 20s can hardmaxx into someone I would find very attractive.
A short, bald man with a small penis is fucked, there is no hardmaxxing he can do.
[–]clarbg 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women have it worse than men lol.
[–]pubgmisc 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women would rather die alone than have a beta, and always willing to share an alpha. Since the dawn of humanity
[–]Commercial-Engineer3 75 points76 points77 points 4 years ago (43 children) | Copy Link
Femcels are chicks with unreasonably high standards. Think 4/10 in looks going after a 9/10 ripped male model. Sorry, it ain't gonna happen sweet cheeks.
[–]Sleight_Hotne 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Basically I saw this commercial the other day, like yeah that shows the expectations of many
https://youtu.be/vQ1rtT-ELj8
[–]quiditplombWillow Pill 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link
i don’t get why incels and femcels don’t just get together, it says a lot about how unreasonably high both of their standards are despite how unappealing they are
[–]throwthatmfawaydumbass 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you even see the post?
[–]lordofcin_2 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well clearly femcels DONT and they are allowed to do so
[–]OwOFemboyUwU 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Literally nobody said that femcels aren’t allowed to. My point was that the reason incels and femcels don’t get together is the high standards of femcels, not the high standards of “muh both sides”which the person I responded to was trying to change it to
U are being obtuse
[+]quiditplombWillow Pill -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
how does this meme prove it lol, it quite literally is a “both sides” thing considering both have impossibly high standards. 90% of incels are repulsed by femcels.
[–]OwOFemboyUwU 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It isn’t a both sides thing. Lonely men are pursuing these lonely women, it’s the lonely women who reject; that’s literally what the meme shows. Incels by in large don’t have impossibly high standards, femcels do
[–]SimilarSurround715 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It depends. I’ve met some incels who swear to god they will never touch a “hot chick” because they’re dirty. They want a girl who.. well, you know. The whole pure- good girl thing. And it’s like, girls aren’t like that at all. Like men, women are complicated & their personalities can be the result of so many things.
[–]BoostedThrower 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lonely men aren't swiping left on 99/100 female profiles. That's all the proof you need that this shit is one sided.
[–]HOLYREGIME 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Takes two to tango. If femcel women are only after chad, where are the incel men suppose to go?
[–]quiditplombWillow Pill -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
same applies to when incels only want a 10/10 virgin supermodel
[–]caption291 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok, sure, What do we do with the remaining 98% of incels?
[–]HOLYREGIME 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never witnessed it myself.
[–]Fit-Photograph1646 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fake news
Doesn't happen
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Well what are incels?
Are all single guys who want to have an relationship incels?
Or just some of them? If some of them then which ones?
[–]redpillbob69 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I think many incels are married. I wanted sex for three years and she didn't. I was miserable. My self esteem tanked. I was like why doesn't she want me? I look back now. It was more about her being depressed and her feeling low self esteem. She didn't feel sexy even though I showed interest at first. Eventually. I gave up. I didn't have anything left in me. I just slep walked through it and jerked off.
[–]ShinyBronzeIslam is right about everything 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Marriage or relationship without sex is absolutely unthinkable.
What’s the point even?
[–]redpillbob69 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's hell. I saw a video that stated "dead bedroom " is a huge problem for lesbian couples due to the lack of initiating sex by women.
[–]ShinyBronzeIslam is right about everything 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
😂😂😂
Bruh, this is so much funnier for deeper reasons that I can’t say even on purge week.
[–]ThorLivesSkeptical Purple Pill Man 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only about one-third of lesbians in relationships of 2 years or longer had sex once a week or more; 47% of lesbians in long-term relationships had sex once a month or less, and among heterosexual married couples, only 15% had sex once a week or less.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian\_bed\_death
[–]Knight_of_Inari 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much, I can be understanding if she's feeling depressed or something like that, hormonal and mental problems are no joke, but we must be looking for a solution, more than 3 months without sex is a deal breaker for me no matter how much I care.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well got me thinking... isn't every man who wants to have sex but can't at the moment an incel?
If I have a romantic relationship with my fleshlight does that count?
[–]redpillbob69 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Until it runs out of batteries. Then it's back to Incel fir you. 😂
[–]Alarechercheduneame -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wow. Honestly I read and am disgusted by a lot of the things incels and MGTOW types say about us, but I do want to tell you I’m very sorry that happened. That would be awful. Of course I’m sure it was sexually frustrating, but personally, I can’t even imagine what that would do to my self esteem to be rejected by the person you are supposed to be in a lifelong committed and loving relationship with, for such a long time and so consistently. I hope you heal from that experience, I am genuinely sorry you went through that.
[–]redpillbob69 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I appreciate that very. Thank you. I was lucky. I found a woman after that was very open about sex. The problem with her and I was that I had the kid in candy shop mentality with her. I took her openness for granted and did not establish healthy boundaries for sex. Eventually she disrespected me. Which I regret. I did apologize. Too little, too late. The hard part is that I love her with all my heart and I hurt her.I wear my heart on my sleeve. I had to work through that. My next relationship will have some well established boundaries beforehand. I get annoyed that I am learning so much the hard way, but I know I have s good heart and good love is worth the growing pains.
[–]pushing-rope 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why was INCEL given a gender? Its an acronym. Male, female, NB, whatever can still be an INCEL
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know, the whole incel movement was started by a WOMAN.
That's why I find it funny when feminiwhales bush incels, because they are bashing women as well.
[–]quiditplombWillow Pill 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
involuntarily celibate
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well if you are alone due to your own unrealistic expectations you do not get to whine for being alone right?
[–]quiditplombWillow Pill -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i guess that’s the irony of incels then.
theoretically they could date other incels but they’re repulsed by people with a similar physique and mentality to them.
[–]cel-shaded 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In theory, women date upwards so no, incels cannot date someone similar to them.
[–]Haunting-Ad-8603 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Can’t blame them for being attracted to attractive people. They just don’t want each other.
[–]zyramain69 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What? Femcels were getting angry men were PMing them.
[–]logicAndFury 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah sounds like one side wants the other but it’s not symmetrical.
[–]FewAbbreviations9468 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
because they hate each other? the knowledge of you extremely enlightened mind lol
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
One side hates women and the other side hates men. Both think they’re entitled to a 13/10 while viewing people who look just like them as less than human.
TL;DR They’re such toxic shits that they’re repellent to each other
[–]BaobabOFFCL 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Incel men do not have high standards.
Most would be happy with a 3-4/10
[–]clarbg -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you know that men tend to overestimate their attractiveness? What you consider a 9/10 is at best a 7. Ripped doesn't fix ugly face.
I'm not gorgeous or anything, but I'm at the very least a 6/10 - slim, with boobs - and I get looks from men. But most of the men that have shown interest in me have been less attractive than me. One of them was a really good guy, but I can't help what I'm attracted to. He found love because he's such a nice person and there are women willing to overlook appearance if you have a winning personality.
[–][deleted] 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Average Girl: These guys only think about sex, they are disguising!
Chad: Hey average girl... wanna fuck!
waterfall noises
Average Girl: That's so romantic! Take me right here, right now!
[–]ExpertAccident 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Nobody talks more about Chad than y’all.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It is an essential part of literary erotica.
[–]anonymous1113Purple Pill Man 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They are the protagonist of most romance novels. The bs women spew.
[–]SliptheLust, Thrust, Bust and Dust 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just like the romantic interests in action movies are Megan Fox.
[–]ExpertAccident 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah ok buddy.
[–]BacanaHeaven 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. The concept of “Chad” doesn’t explain the modern obsession with feminine men, such as Harry Styles, or prominent Kpop artists. Really shows the cognitive dissonance of these people.
[–]goochiegg 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Cause they are chads ,Chad is just a physically attractive male
[–]ExpertAccident 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yep. Do any of these guys remember young Justin Bieber??? Smh
[–]BacanaHeaven 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I need to remember to make a post about that here and watch people go wild tryna use some pseudoscience like “women are attracted to feminine men cause they never had a male role model, and have a deficiency of vitamin B” or something dumb.
[–]ExpertAccident 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
💀💀
I bet they’d say something like
“Women females who are into feminine men are secretly homosexual but don’t want to come to terms with it, were sexually abused, and lack a father figure, so their mother was their only masculine figure in life, so they latch onto feminine men as they remind her of her single mom”
Idk 💀
[–]BacanaHeaven 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
HAHAHAHA omg “As a child, a lack of exposure to a satisfactory amount of onions caused deep seated trauma, which resurfaced in their relationships in the form of liking men who aren’t abusive”.
[–]ExpertAccident 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
HAHA 💀
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
First, it's mostly teenagers who obsess over androgynous men, second, they're still very, very attractive due to genetic traits, third, celebrity obsession is one, actual action is another thing
[–]ExpertAccident 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Uh, no? 🤨
[–]ExpertAccident 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Oh yes because a random redditor knows my sex life 😂
Either you’re a troll or just super detached from reality. I hope it’s the first one.
[–]HumanNumber348Asexual girl popcornwatching 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At any given point in time, each and every one of earths 4 billion women are having hot sex with at least 3 Chads.
[–]Hey-hey-hey123Red Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is spot on
[–]hersirnight 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is legendary LOL
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link
This post is in response to the post “Men in a nutshell” which can be seen here: Men in a nutshell https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/rtniec/men_in_a_nutshell/
These posts are exact opposites of each other. However, only one post is based in reality.
[–][deleted] 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Correct. Based on that observation, where would you extrapolate from there?
[–]throwthatmfawaydumbass 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well yours is based on reality and the other is a strawman. Dude's will definitely know when a girl is ugly but they're still capable of settling.
[–]ExpertAccident -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
They are not the exact opposite at all. It’s a similar message.
Your post being that women don’t want to date online men and want to date people in real life, and then rejecting men who just send dick pics.
The other one is referring to incels, where they claim they’re sooooo ugly and that’s why they can’t get supermodel gfs, and refuse to date someone in their league.
C’mon man.
[–]sokra3 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In order to corroborate if the case, switch genders on both posts.
The Frankenstein one can be seen equally with a woman or a man?
Yes. There are equal cases that an unattractive men/woman is rejected by an attractive one and also rejects an unattractive prospect.
Is this post swappable? Have you seen the case were an average looking lonely man is being chased by female attention? That is not the average male experience.
Can be argued that the attention is unwanted, yes. But a completely different experience to men's
[–]goochiegg 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The girls in their leauge pretty much just ignore or reject them for much more attractive men.
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is the gaslighting I'm referring to. Thank you for proving my point.
[+]ExpertAccident -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Whatever helps you sleep at night, man
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ooo and now some projection.
[–]ExpertAccident -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
? What lol
[–]SpoiltUnicorns 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
For all people: There have always been many choices, but not many options
[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
This is how women think. Men at the bottom do not have choices. Women only think they do because that's what they see in their own lives.
I knew a girl once who was constantly left swiping on men on Tinder after receiving hundreds of matches. She would often complain of not having many options./ Then wanted to try girls and found she could barely get 1 match a week. I remember her messaging me saying - 'Is THIS what men go through?'
And I was like...no. It's even worse.
[–]lordofcin_2 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
People shouldn’t obligated to date people they don’t want to
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's fine, but let's not ignore reality.
[–]Lonelybuthopeful9 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yes, but they also shouldnt lie
[–]pussandra 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How is it a lie?
[–]Lonelybuthopeful9 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You know, like how no men ever loves them, or apprached them etc.
Lies
[–]lordofcin_2 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When are they claiming those things?
[–]pussandra -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably more like no men in appropriate ways and places. Not cat-callers or weirdos who approach in the streets at night or at the gym. Also age appropriate.
[–]SilentFroggy 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
“Its all about personality SWEETY!!!”
And some men's personalities are not agreeable....
[–]yoooooooooooodaddyBlue Pill Woman 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link
99% of those bitches literally have debilitating autism or are neurodivergent in some way and genuinely expect chad to dive through their window with a wedding ring or something
[–]FairInvestigator 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
'Debilitating autism' and 'neurodivergence in some way' are opposite ends of the scale. Most people suffer with some sort of mental health issue at some time in their life and the idea that someone with a neurodiverse condition is not fit for a relationship just doesn't make sense. Autism, dyslexia, dyscalculia etc. does not negate someone's ability to be in a relationship. You have some strange ideas.
[–]UrbantexasguyI'm in love with Stacy's mom 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It’s not that simple though. Neurotypical behavior is a very subtle and nuanced thing.
A neurodivergent person might be 95% of the way there, but to a 100% neurotypical person, that remaining 5% shows up like a bright pink neon light in a dark alley. Autism doesn’t whisper….it screams.
[–]FairInvestigator 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh trust me, I work in the field, so I know it isn't simple by any stretch of the imagination - but the nuance doesn't present how you have described, which ironically was a crude and oversimplified idea. Autistic Spectrum Condition presents differently in each Autistic individual. There are people who go through their entire lives without they or anyone they know realising they have it. While there are others who need assistance with daily living because of it.
You have conflated Autism with neurodivergence which is an umbrella term for a number of different conditions. Dyslexia does not make any sound at all if the individual has the right assistive tech for example. Dragon for the computer will ensure the person can write articulate documents and emails at work.
Autistic people often have accentuated strengths in certain areas and so are 500% 'there' and leaving neurotypicals in there midst, for dust. You might want to educate yourself a bit more on the topic. It's a lot more interesting than you summise.
[–]lordofcin_2 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Autism is a neurodivergency tho
[–]lilickybitch 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
Are you saying women who refuse some hobgoblins sexual or romantic advances, for whatever their logical or illogical reasons, is severely mentally ill, with these specific illnesses? Wheres the correlation?? Dont project please 😂
[–]wtknightGen X Slacker 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
A female hobgoblin who rejects a male hobgoblin's advances and then complains about no man being interested in her probably does have issues.
[+]lilickybitch -16 points-15 points-14 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I mean I understand the type of people you are to automatically assume someone who doesnt like you has a mental issue, but that just doesnt make sense. The “she probably does have an issue” just points towards your illness even more 😂
[–]wtknightGen X Slacker 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We'd mock someone (not to their faces, if we are polite) who only had a high school education thinking that should qualify them to be a medical doctor. We should probably equally mock someone who has few attractive qualities who expects to attract someone who has many of them.
[+]lilickybitch -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You say should, almost as if you don’t understand that humans dont and wont ever think as a collective like this 💀. Your “shoulds” are kinda quite literally projections come to life, though not necessarily bad ones.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe you should google a bit and find out how many women in US have mental issues?
[–]lilickybitch 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you wanna relate the amount of women with mental issues in the US, with this post about how specifically women who say theyre alone but reject all advances, are “mentally ill.” I’m sorry, DID this post mention all women, or are you here to make another general unrelated statement about them altogether bc…yk. Women ig?
[–]yoooooooooooodaddyBlue Pill Woman 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
I literally said nothing about appearances, you’re the one who inferred that. wonder who should be worried about projection here 😫 what u gettin so defensive for shawty
[–]lilickybitch -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Not him imagining appearances somewhere ANYWHERE in these comments 😂 I most definitely spoke about mental illness which you DID bring up. Cmon, make it make sense. Yall are entertaining 💀
[–]yoooooooooooodaddyBlue Pill Woman 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
What the fuck does hobgoblin mean to you then genius? Is that some kind of compliment in the book of retards? Wouldn’t you say these woman are hobgoblins AS WELL if the only ones who want them are these kind of men 🤣
[–]lilickybitch -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Hobgoblin- a mischievous imp or sprite. If I’m not mistaken, none of these words imply anything about physical appearance/attractiveness, it basically called you small or a fairy 😂 Anywho, so you agree then? These men are hobgoblins? Because ofc for you TO agree, a woman has to be put into the hypothetical first 🤨
[–]Different-Area-3053 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
This bitch literally called someone a word with GOBLIN in it and your dumbass is sitting here saying there is no appearance component
Holy shit ☠️☠️☠️
[–]lilickybitch 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I see you kinda retarded because I am both this bitch and that bitch 💀. Now that thats outta the way, I can CLEARLY see youre retarded because you missed the actual definition of hobgoblin, kindly provided by Google, that mentioned a small ass fairy or elf. If youre not either of these things I cant see why youd be offended but then again..😂
[–]Different-Area-3053 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Not you actually thinking goblins are fairies and not a word to call ugly niggas ☠️☠️☠️
This ain't a hill to die on sis 🙏🙏
[–]lilickybitch 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No baby I just use actual definitions of words to 1) piss people off and 2) prove my point because notice you never said I was wrong.🥴 A hill to die on? Hobgoblins? LMAO So you believe I’m that offended over my technically correct use of a word? Not the need to prove LIL OH ME wrong so bad 🤣
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you don't think hobgoblin is an insult that has anything to do with looks...you might want to go try a different sub. This ain't it chief.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
this whole comment is the definition of what arguing with a female is like.
She knows damn well she was insulting men's appearances and is playing dumb now.
[–]lilickybitch 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Well thanks for being insulted, I see you think of yourself as a hobgoblin😂. This referred to the thirsty men coming for the lonely woman, but if you think the shoe fits by all means..😉
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
its a forever ALONE woman. Aka a femcel.
A woman who claims men never want her cause shes too fat, or mental or so on.
Yet... other forever alone men are trying to be with them, because they are disgusting fucks too.
[–]lilickybitch -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You cant convince me femcel is what was referred to here, but im assuming Alone Woman has some underlying and different meaning than “alone woman” or “lonely woman” so ig youre right.
[–]Bandit174🦝 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol, perfect
[–]Lonelybuthopeful9 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Literally all of FAW.
Hell, they even admit that there are guys who ask them out in real life, dating apps, or reddit, but none of them are okay because they are all "creeps", or people who want to use their body.
All they are doing is trying to copy things which they can never experience
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It's called having standards. What kind of crazy life would we have if the first rando to talk to us was the guy we pick?
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They are forever alone women, with forever alone men trying to talk to them.
[–]goochiegg 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing wrong with Standards thought, the post is about women who complain that men don't want them but they ignore the options they have
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A world in which guy/girl ask you out so you meet for a cup of coffee and get to know each other better?
That actually doesn't sound so bad.
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah the actually knowing the person part is something people seem to forget. People actually have to like each other to wanna spend time with one another and not be lonely anymore.
Oh weird, are we allowed to have standards now or only women? Because I've been hearing from women on here for years that incel men should date literally anyone with a pulse and be happy
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If sex was the magical life-fixer they think it is, then that's what they should do. But of course it isn't.
No, everyone should have standards. Everyone should treat themselves well.
[–]ExpertAccident 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I doubt it was men who wanted to date them. I’m betting it was all just dick pics and guys wanting a quick fuck.
[–]wtffellification 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
guys wanting a quick fuck.
Through reddit? Are you being serious?
[–]lordofcin_2 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I’ve experienced it
[–]GwenXiGiga Chads Only! 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yes.
[–]Fit-Photograph1646 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hot take: women are horrible at betting anyway... Toot
[–]ExpertAccident 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shit take lol
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[–]nothatyoucare[S] 64 points65 points66 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You got a group of women who are “forever alone” and a group of men who are “forever alone”. It would seem they’re in the same boat, so why is only one group rotting hot dogs in your view? Oh easy, you hate men.
Also, go look at the “men in a nutshell” post and please maintain some consistent views on how both are true.
[–]odd_cloud 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Rwsembles their argument that men on OLD sites are trash. Yeah, they have several times more men than women, but anyway only trash men end up there.
[–]Physical-Pie748 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
same goes for the other gender i guess, being ran through
[+]AnActualPersonGirthy -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean yeah. If you weren't trash you wouldn't have to be on a dating site at all. Plus most guys take shit pictures.
They are mentalcels. (just like most male incels)
[–]Lonelybuthopeful9 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Incels dont reject dating or sex offers from women every hour
[–]HumanNumber348Asexual girl popcornwatching 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One group wants true romantic relationships. The other group offers dick pics.
[–]lordofcin_2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do you know they were all forever alone men? If a guy just randomly DM some girl (or possibly another guy if they’re gay) there’s a good chance nudes are a reason
[–]sleuthoftrades1Purple Pill Man 93 points94 points95 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Your analogy falls apart when you compare forever alone women as humans and forever alone men as disgusting objects. You've already started with the supposition that the woman is worth more. The more accurate analogy is a piece of shit thinking it is too good to share a shithole with another piece of shit.
[–]yoooooooooooodaddyBlue Pill Woman 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
rofl
[–]Special-Armadillo-99 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I will not share the same anus with him!?
How do you know that the people DMing them were forever alone men?
[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I hate this logic because why is every man who approaches a woman immediately thought of as bad? It’s like maybe I’m potato chips when you wanted French fries
Maybe not so much bad, more so they just don’t like them.
[–]Scrimmy_Bingus2The Lowest Value Male 59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Pay attention lads, this is actually how most women view sub-8 males.
[–]chilikettlechipsToothbrush Pill 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
80/20 and 95/5 in comment form.
[–]goochiegg 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then don't complain that you are starving. Also because they are the most physically attractive or rich they are just moldy rotten food ?
[–]withoutpunity 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Except if you're comparing forever alone women with forever alone men then the hungry person in your analogy is a homeless person on the verge of starvation.
[–]sleuthoftrades1Purple Pill Man 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A cold, rotting, moldy, homeless woman that thinks she is entitled to be taken out to a Michelin star restaurant.
[–]DrBobyRed Pill dad 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are not really hungry, if there is a cold rotting, moldy hot dog on the ground behind a gas station dumpster.
You are simply mildly discomforted.
[–]ExpertAccident 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
“You claim you’re hungry, yet you won’t eat the hotdog that is on the ground. Strange.”
[–]Commercial_Room_78532 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly. If you were starving to death you would eat a hotdog on the ground.
These women are just slightly peckish at best. They aren't looking for hotdogs either. But a sirloin steak.
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[–]SketchyXP 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk I wouldn’t wanna date some rando on the internet either
“How can you say you’re starving to death when there is a pack of 12 lukewarm hotdogs in the dumpster outside?” Puh-lease. There is nothing wrong with these women for not being interested in random internet strangers
[–]PresentationNo3625 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men who want to date them or men who want to send nasty texts and waste a women time because they’ll never actually meet up?
[–]MisPai 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Forgive us for having standards
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You missed the "Men in a Nutshell" post. Look at my other comments in this post and I've linked it.
[–]Hohohomicide420 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Sure, lump us all together. Women are a hive mind after all.
This is as derogatory as looking at an incel going on a rampage and saying: Men in a nutshell.
This sub used to be neutral, but it has now resorted to straw-men arguments.
[–]Mistygirl179 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This sub is in no way neutral
[–]Oli_love90 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Considering that this sub rages against: - “ugly women” - fat women - women over 30
Is it so hard to believe that some women feel like they will be forever alone? Like?
[–]ThisBoringLifeLife is a mix of pills 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm sure they think that way.
But it depends on the women in question. If dudes are told to "level up" to have a chance, why wouldn't women who feel this way not think that advice applies to them?
I think on their end, if they are getting likes and such on OLD, even if they believe those results are from "thirsty" men, they have more available choices to be with somebody, assuming that the average guy is getting less than they are.
Yes when they have people trying to spit game at them and they ignore most dudes
Must be hard to be subjected to similar standards as men. Welcome to equality.
The flowers in their hands should be replaced with D-pix on smartphone screens. Just because there might be suitors doesn't necessarily mean they're quality gentlemen worth being with.
[–]FewAbbreviations9468 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
bad fake women. they don't want interest from desperate, perverted, frustrated men 💅
[–]IcarusKiki22F 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
🧍♀️➡️🌰🥜
[–]Manytree4661 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
There is such a thing as quality above quantity, if a bunch of people you aren't interested in are messaging you, you shouldnt lower your standards just because you're lonely.
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Explain away women’s behavior however you like. The point remains the other post about “men in a nutshell” is demonstrably false and is projection.
[–]Manytree4661 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I wasnt explaining away anyones behaviour (i think your assumption says more about you than you think), i was just saying people shouldnt date someone just because they're willing. You should date someone because you're interested in them, they're interested in you and you're both capable of loving yourselves. I dont like either of these "in a nutshell" posts as things people should apply to real life because no gender or sex is that simple, however if you see them as jokes "which cartoons are meant to be" they're kinda funny
They're shitposts, due to the nature of the purge week here.
To me, you can't really tell if you're going to be fully interested unless you take a chance and go on a date with them. At best you make guesses based on words said in a profile, a picture or two, and that's it.
The fact that they're willing makes them a valid option worth considering. Better than pining for someone who don't want you.
[–]CorporalDavidPurple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't think this illustrates all or even most women. Most women are very selective, but the FDS type will vet constantly and seldom commit. In the end, it's their choice how they want to live their life, so I won't bash them.
HOWEVER, it's not that great of a 'strategy' if you never end up dating, is it?
Most of them just wanna hookup. That’s not the same as dating
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
You don’t know that. You just want to think that because it fits your prejudices.
Also, go check the “Men in a Nutshell” post and come back.
[–]Usual_Entry_6921 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maxim and peoples models and signers and brooks and it was just beginning Facebook is totally evil I was psyched all ready
Psu was like marry Ariana grande and idk if that was at all because of ayumi and Japan and space or just because popping?
Ohh my I totally need to get to a gym and no not not got American history exed screw that shit ace in the hole son
Where is that house but I have to go to Cupertino and also? I so have to diplomacy what the fucj am I doing in this fox damn parking lot
Yea Italian cousin want to
[–]ConcernedColin 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This guy gets it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a doubtful reddit post by a 15 year old though, so it's a wash.
[–]FairInvestigator -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LVM/NVM are a-plenty.
[+]creekcrystallI identify as a perpetual male victim. Victim Complex is life -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
Just so everyone knows. This post is in a response to this post that was made earlier. OP got his feelings hurt and just had to find a meme to counter it.
K I’m out 🥰
[–]places0 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well memes are the internets natural way of communicating, so everything seems to be in order to me
[–]throwawaythawne 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not just a meme, it's actually a thing that happened--unlike the other post. Your snide, sneering dismissal of it without even trying to make a counterargument says a lot.
[–]CivilianMonty 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sounds like a healthy way to continue the argument..
Are your feefees hurt?
feefees
yes
[–]Square_Inflation_534 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The key difference being one really happened and one's imaginary
[–]yoooooooooooodaddyBlue Pill Woman 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol Stacy the whole world doesn’t revolve around you and ur wet hole pipe tf down pls 😌
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[–]Different-Area-3053 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women legit can't talk about something without tryna dig up dirt or insult you lmfao
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
why do people go through post histories so much? I cant even bother or care.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
ill ask for dating advice on this god forsaken website and all the comments are women bickering about how disgusting my post history is, and they'll go through the ENTIRE thing and link it all and shit.
[–]ThisBoringLifeLife is a mix of pills 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think I got my post history commented on maybe once on my main acct.
I noticed it be a thing on political subs to point out bots, but in subs like these I don't see the purpose.
they like to bring up im a virgin a lot, haha look at his post history he posts in the virgin sub!!!!!! GET HIM GIRLS!!!! TEAR HIM APART YEAHHHHHH SEE HES A VIRGIN INCEL INCEL INCEL! and its like ok.
[–]ThisBoringLifeLife is a mix of pills 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think more and more guys are at a position where they have other priorities, so it doesn't bother them.
Plus, the changing culture where one may get ridiculed for being a virgin is fading in effectiveness, so it gets shrugged off.
I went through your post history.
You dirty dog =)
[–]Lonelybuthopeful9 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Difference is no women ever approached me, so I can reject her for being a "creep"
[–]throwaway4plebbit 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The diff is that this post is acc truthful
Most men aren't thaaatttt ugly, same with women. But regardless turning someone down due to then not being physically attractive I think is fair. It isn't fair to be with someone u aren't attracted to
[–]sweetpurplepeach -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
aww OP is weak little cry baby 🤡
[–]_HEDONISM_BOTThe Red Pill is a Delusion -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for this amazing background.
God the male BS on this subreddit 🙄
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Male BS? One post is projection. The other is based on actual events. So which is it? Ugly dudes won’t date in their league or they will? Make it make sense.
[+]_HEDONISM_BOTThe Red Pill is a Delusion -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Ugly dudes refuse to date on their league, feel entitled to a beautiful woman, and are upset that beautiful women want to date hot guys.
These men want to be shallow but want women to have no physical preferences whatsoever.
What are women supposed to do? First come, first serve?? Pick at random???
That’s it. Attractive women want to date attractive men, and this is the problem incels can’t get over
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Forever alone women are attractive? Why are they forever alone then?
Great you used logic on blue piller and now he is stuck in a loop.
I hope he will reboot himself, we are running critically low on them.
[–]yoooooooooooodaddyBlue Pill Woman 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
muh rotten hot dog analogy muh too much choice not enough good choices
[–]ex_red_black_piller 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exa-chad only.
is he saying hot guys are going after the FA women? WOW.
[–]FrostieTheSnowmanPerplexed Fellow 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
See the problem is that you think this is a gendered issue at all. Anybody who does not bring value to a relationship, should not expect to be swept off their feet by someone who does. At the very least, they shouldn't be bitching about thirst when a spring appears before them.
It's fine to want someone out of your league, but don't mope about being lonely to everyone else when you've got options lol.
[–]Square_Inflation_534 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Obese women who other women call attractive aren't actually attractive, they just think they are
[–]throwaway4plebbit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
U have it backwards it’s girls who all have sky high standards regardless of what they bring to the table. Men have no problem dating women of equal attractiveness but all the ugly girls think they r special princesses
Yup.
[–]weebupurplecat -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
what is the point of the sub?
maybe the men were being creepy
[–]myopicdreams -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh… reading the title I assumed these women choose to be alone… like choosing to be child free
[–]AlienMoonSugar -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Answer me this; which one of those men is the right one? It’s almost impossible to figure out when there are a sea of hands knocking on her door. It’s all about perspective. I do agree- this meme is accurate as hell! I too am lonely as fuck for the same reason.
[–]Puzzleheaded-Print65 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Lonely men have literally no one to talk to, and no one who shows interest in them. Many men go through their teens without ever having experienced that a woman gave them a compliment, wanted to actively talk to them for non school/work related reasons, or said yes to go on a date. When they go on dating sites, they have zero matches, and will not have any opportunity to even show who they are or what their personality is like. They cant even begin to pick out who would be a good partner for them, since they have never talked to a potential candidate, ever.
The problem of no knowing whom of a large amount of men who show interest is actually sincere, or a nice person, is a quite different problem, since a person who is popular can just reject the unpleasant or unsincere people until only good people remain.
[–]AlienMoonSugar 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Very well said! So the only thing I’m going to respond to is the last bit. More often than not there are too many to sort. In my experience, I’ve given up. It isn’t as easy as you’d think to just reject and move on. People often mask for the entirety of the first year you know them. Secondly to get to know someone is no easy feat. I’m content enough single to not want to go through that process. For me it’s emotionally exhausting so I’ve come to prefer the solitude. My only goal with my comment was too offer another perspective. ☺️
[–]Puzzleheaded-Print65 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It really is an impossible feedback loop: Women get exhausted from online dating when they have to deal with overwhelming, desperate men. -> Women leave quickly -> Fewer women who match with men -> Men swipe on more of the women, and get more desperate for the few matches they get.. -> the cycle continues..
How can this ever be balanced out? (unless you have a curated dating site that only allowed the most successful men to join to preserve a reasonable gender ratio). But that doesnt do much for the unsuccessful men.
I truly think that having normal, platonic, friendly interactions with women in the teen years is important for social development, and that it is something that many lonely men lack. By being used to socialize around women for purely non-sexual reasons, i think a man will develop an aura that he is safe to be around, and that women will be treated as peers and humans, not something to put on a pedestal or to win over to gain a relationship. There are physical factors that truly makes it harder for men to date in the west, such as height, baldness, ethnicity, autism etc, but while most men do manage to find love anyway, it is hard when it is combined with a history of never having socialized around women before. It breeds a lot of bitterness and negative feedback loops that are hard to break.
As for the female perspective, it must be truly demoralizing to realize that 90% of men you find attractive, only say they want a long term relationship with you just to have sex with you in the short term.
I think the happiest relationships happen when both people feel that their partner is a real catch and out of their league :p
[–]AlienMoonSugar 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This was SO well written. I have found personally myself, almost every person I’ve ever been attracted to, long enough to develop a relationship with was always someone I bumped into in person often. So I agree. I find that dating apps in general are less than helpful for all of us. The pandemic has also made things significantly harder.
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[–]nothatyoucare[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Go look at the “Men in a Nutshell” and come back.
[–]asemchenko81 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women who WANT to be alone, are not complaining about being alone. That is not the category of women in the dating realm which this post refers to
[+]gloomygh0st -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
what a misogynistic take LOL
[–]Garth1234567890Toxic Hypeman 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Womenare wrong sometimes- op
“what a misogynistic take LOL ”-you Lol reddit females built different example number 209
[–]gloomygh0st -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
i only joined reddit last year and started using it frequently within the last few months. wouldn’t call myself a “reddit woman” you dumb reddit man lolol.
idk why a woman would be wrong in this situation, am i wrong for saying this is misogynistic (im not)? is woman pictured wrong for saying she’s lonely with a bunch of weird randos begging for her attention?
get outta my replies if ur gonna be stupid as hell, it’ll just give me more reason to believe men fit the stereotype.
[–]Garth1234567890Toxic Hypeman 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Ehh i would normally point out how this is clearly a situation of volcel( voluntarily celibate) vs incel(involuntarily celibate). But no your fee fees are hurt soo you cry out for muhsoggyknee. Also dont call yourself a reddit woman, women are better than you. You are a reddit female
[–]gloomygh0st -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
weird how you (and a lot of men) think women criticizing something = feelings being hurt, projection much? also- if you’re attempting to call me a female to hurt my “fee fees”, it’s not working. i’m biologically female but i’m a woman nonetheless. you’re just continuing to be misogynistic. y’all really need to get some better hobbies, this is so embarrassing.
i’m glad men with shitty ass personalities aren’t getting laid, i encourage women to go on sex strikes often. hopefully it’ll become more common :)
[–]Garth1234567890Toxic Hypeman 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Eh you just follow the formula like the other reddit females, your feefee are hurt no your are,ad infinitum. Mysoggyknee, you are a virgin, projection, blah blah. When they send out the manual to all you reddit females, please ask them to come up with new insults, and more inventive ways of trying to avoid answering hard questions.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More like men in a nutshell
Let me put it this way. We all live in shells, these are our bodies. If people want to pursue us for our shell, does that make the person inside feel any less lonely? No
[–]TheNorrthStar 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think this is age dependent and flipped. A lot of young women don't get too emotionally invested in relationships as men their age do because of this. They feel "oh there's always a guy waiting for a chance" so it's easy for them to walk away from a relationship or not get as invested as a guy, or for them to choose to be alone
On the opposite end guys may think this way and not get invested in a relationship cause there's many "flavours" to try. Many different types of girls to go after and have sex with so why choose one?
Dilemma of young people.
I think women typically don't know what it's like to be alone until they're older, I.e in their 30's, and guys typically don't know how to open up and form relationships that are serious and not superficial until then, in our youth we're wired and socially pressures to learn how to sleep with the girl not to be with her.
I think maturity is needed on both sides to bridge the gap. Ultimately people need to grow up and not be so full of themselves thinking "oh there's a lot of fish to pick from"or "oh there's a lot of flavours to try". Being full of yourself and thinking you'll always have options or that sex with various types of people brings fulfilment to your life is the issue many face in both genders. People just gotta be humble, mature, grow up, and not let perfect be the enemy of the good, or curiousity for experiences make them shut off themselves from the possibility of growing with one person.
Tbh idk how I got this post in my feed or why I'm even commenting but it is what it is aye
[–]Ambitious_Ad7882 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not me!!
[–]Miss_Kimi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I believe women are biologically attracted sexually to innate masculinity. It's one of our primal brain functions.
Due to societies expectations upon gender roles and possible childhood adversity , some men adopted the " toxic masculinity " ideals.
With a very distorted perspective upon women ( most likely their unhealed mother wounds ) Men become disrespectful.
Abusive, non-committal and sexually driven these men don't function passively. They aggressively take what they want by psychologically manipulating the woman's mind.
His aggressive nature doesn't give her enough time to think about what she really wants , before he has his penis buried deep into her vaginal canal.
He's probably very good at what he does, he's been functioning this way for years with no repercussions.
This can distort women's minds because it's a play on their brain chemicals. In a sense manipulating the love and bonding and intertwining it with high levels of cortisol creates ( by default ) a major attachment from the woman.
"Never awaken a woman's heart with no intentions of loving her " Bob Marley
MFers out here be doing Just That .. SMH ..🖕
[–]nothatyoucare[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Talk about textbook example of removing accountability from women.
[–]shar-moota 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Xxhhh
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