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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:44 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:58 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 12:39 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:04 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:06 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 01:10 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 01:22 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:54 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 03:02 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:25 AM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 02:50 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:07 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:17 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:04 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 02:17 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:27 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 12:10 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:13 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 01:41 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:39 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:38 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:15 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:50 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:27 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:27 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:54 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 12:37 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:35 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:09 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:27 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:48 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:41 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:05 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:12 PM
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ScienceLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:26 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 03:53 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:00 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:01 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:29 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:23 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:37 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:01 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 04:46 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:11 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:58 AM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:10 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:15 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:48 PM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:43 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:46 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:42 PM
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PURGE WEEKLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:46 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:28 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:20 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 11:19 AM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:23 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:29 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:36 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:30 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:27 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:02 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 01:02 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:39 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:07 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:43 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:33 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:46 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:08 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:51 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:06 AM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 12:27 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:01 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 03:10 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:04 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:51 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:57 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:14 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:04 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:43 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:05 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:43 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:44 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:34 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:18 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:10 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 10:55 AM
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Purge CMV!LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:47 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:45 PM
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NYE Purge Post!LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:55 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:25 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:49 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:09 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:43 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:42 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:39 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 02:17 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:19 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:08 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:21 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:30 PM
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Question For WomenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 08:05 PM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 09:47 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:31 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:35 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:56 AM
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ScienceLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 12:20 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:59 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:38 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:26 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:58 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:12 PM
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ScienceLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 02:07 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:34 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:58 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:38 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:20 AM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:05 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:50 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:34 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:23 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:53 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:55 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:34 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:19 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:03 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:05 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:29 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:44 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:04 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:59 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:01 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:00 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 04:09 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:27 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:17 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:42 PM
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NYE Purge Post!LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:47 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 12:52 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:54 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:20 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:11 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:15 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:56 PM
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Question For WomenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 10:39 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:45 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:28 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:02 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:52 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:47 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:36 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 12:25 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 11:30 AM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 11:20 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:04 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:06 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:18 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:37 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:34 AM
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ScienceLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:31 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:38 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:07 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:36 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 10:36 AM
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Purge CMV!LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:52 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:38 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:48 AM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 12:39 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:32 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:06 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 04:13 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:44 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:44 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:57 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:52 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:29 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:18 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:53 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:46 AM
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ScienceLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:44 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:00 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:21 AM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 12:48 AM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:08 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:33 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 11:59 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:54 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:54 AM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:44 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:45 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:49 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:16 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:59 AM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:41 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:12 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 02:42 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:47 PM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 05:34 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 01:06 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 02:04 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:07 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 01:16 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:49 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:39 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 12:31 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:14 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 01:36 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:49 PM
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LIES MEN TELLLillthOfBabylon/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 03:36 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 02:54 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:43 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:07 AM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:51 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:43 PM
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A person who are similar minded are gonna have similar mindsets How did that change a single thing I said? Or do you not like that I actually have seen people talk about the problem with autistic guys and nerds, especially other autistic nerds? If they don't like nerdy people Oh, so you define nerdy as being creeps who like weird stuff that involves children in disgusting inappropriate situations. No, most people don’t have that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:28 PM
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Most women don’t think about short men like that. You guys have no proof average looking women do that, ugly women doing that don’t fucking matter because you wouldn’t want their asses anyways, and you only show hot women being mean to short men. You guys are mad that hot women don’t like short guys, but you can’t admit that because it sounds stupid. So you pretend your complaint is about all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:22 PM
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Most people don’t like a guy who gets upset at criticism and then pretend the criticism is sexist, knowing full well no one made a sexist generalization against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:21 PM
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Exactly. What? Why do you spend every day complaining about how men are so awful then? Whay?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:11 PM
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Most people don’t like a guy who gets upset at criticism and then pretend the criticism is sexist, knowing for well, no one made a sexist generalization against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:10 PM
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Copy and paste where I said that. If guys constantly like this play this game where they argue against stuff, women haven’t said, it’s no wonder the moral women with strong convictions don’t talk to them. Those guys are just annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:37 PM
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I have a cousin who has autism and is a nerd, she tells me what happens with these guys who also nerdy and autistic who struggle. They’re not sweet little babies, they’re inconsiderate weirdos and predators. Unlike you, my cousin can describe how these guys are by very extensive details. Anime it's not "nerdy" exclusive anymore I don’t care that you don’t like the example. That’s a common criticism the nerd community gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:32 PM
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You guys wouldn’t have been bothered because you wouldn’t have wanted the ugly chick anyways. And you guys can’t even show me proof that average looking women talk shit about short men. Every proof you guys show is a conventionally, attractive woman, talking shit about short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:26 PM
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Nerdy men here don't even get dates If he’s not even getting a first date, chances are its his fault. With how nerd culture is becoming popular, you’re gonna tell me he can’t find a nerdy woman? No, he’s a creep that’s why he can’t get a date. He probably watches anime like Jobless Reincarnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:50 PM
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A minority of men degrade ugly women too You compare that to conventionally attractive women mocking short men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:48 PM
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Is becoming more and more obvious that guys here want to be validated by hot women and pretend to be victims when it doesn’t go their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:45 PM
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Then they stop looking because the answers they get don't help at all. How are you defining help? Is it defined as getting their dicks sucked out of pity? Is it having hot blonde sorority girls approach them begging to fuck them? That kind of help?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:40 PM
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Interacting and lack of interacting greatly affects your observations. So you guys are trying to make claims about female nature without factoring in the things you’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:30 PM
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So you guys don’t talk to people unless they talk to you and then you call that observing female nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:01 PM
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So now we don't speak to them you say? According to the other guys I’m talking to about this topic, no. They don’t. Also, it begs the question where are you meeting women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:00 PM
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I dont even know why im asking you Because you’re trying to insult me and you don’t like that I’m calling you out on it. Instead of actually addressing the argument I made. Which is a logical fallacy that you were doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:31 PM
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Scroll up and you will see You’re making a claim about me and you can’t even copy and paste the evidence. Meanwhile, I typically copy and paste what I am addressing. You do it for most of your comments Then you have ample amounts of evidence to use against me. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:25 PM
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And with you it's always the guy, If everywhere smells like shit, check your shoe. I just described an obstacle to communication You wait around for women to talk to you guys, which is not what most men do. And if shy/reserved/non-expressive women must learn to stick their neck out, Most guys don’t wait around for a woman to talk to them. Learn some accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:24 PM
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Im going to give you an obvious example and analogy so hopefully you can see what i mean. I can say "most guys dont like blueberries" and you will go on to say "WOW MEN MUST HATE ALL FRUIT" If you’re not simply trying to insult me, then copy and paste when I did something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:05 PM
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In the very same post I mentioned guys do engage with these other women, but they are low-key, not very responsive, don't contribute with much energy to the interaction The theme of a lack of accountability is so constant in this post. The common denominator is never the guy? Never?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:00 PM
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A lot here arent because places like this attract people who are insecure and are looking for someone else to blame So what are you actually arguing with me about? Or is it that you didn’t really read my post? They dont choose to believe it, but its a lot easier to remember experiences that give you extreme negative feelings So they’re just over emotional and stupid while pretending their objective and logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:58 PM
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It's not about just, when men make the claim that attractoin is mainly about looks and charismas, But that’s not the issue what it comes to this topic. The issue that guys here never notice when your high priority on looks and charisma causes unintended consequences. Then want to blame everyone else but themselves for the unintended consequences. women are the ones who mostly push morals as more important, For example, if guys focus less on her being hot and charismatic, they could spot out when…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:47 PM
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Men want non fake and fickle people Then stop waiting around for women to talk to you, because clearly that’s a bad strategy. Talk about a lack of personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:41 PM
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Didn’t we already establish that it’s not typically women who approach and initiate things? So why are men waiting around for women to do that? They base their observations on female behavior on the results of them not even acting like the typical guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:38 PM
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The only study that showed on personality was about humor and even that was looking at the correlation of interest in date, and if humor indicates intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:37 PM
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Okay? Like what kind of argument is that? Did you read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:32 PM
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They are different but there are also studies showing women claiming that kindness is attractive May I see those studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:52 AM
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Most women in terms of preference for partner Do you notice attracted to morality is NOT the same as having a preference for a partner with kindness and empathy? Do you have preferences for friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:38 AM
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Part 2 of asking questions since I'm oh so disingenuous and bad faith and making claims of you with no evidence. I hope you dont run from this conversation. Wouldn't want people suspecting that you just made those claims because you couldn't defend your arguments! Calling men “sexist manchildren” doesn’t answer the question. If attraction is more complex than just rewarding good morals, Who told men that it was only about rewarding good morals? and if women don’t consistently apply the standard …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:36 AM
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The reason you are disingenuous you are bad faith is because you make a claim of my motivation with out evidence, Then let me only ask questions by going back to your previous reply to me. Though, perhaps this is where you stop replying and run away from the conversation?: My point is that many women publicly claim morality is a prerequisite for attraction, yet some are still drawn to men who clearly don’t meet that standard. You claim "I am not focused on fake and fickle" but then why are you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:30 AM
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Genuinely good ken dont care about those women, So men here aren't genuinely good. That's my point. you are assuming all men are into those women... Copy and paste where I said that. Thats what they observe around them with a lense of confirmation bias Why would they want to believe all women are liars and want terrible men? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:16 AM
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Sometimes i feel like you are projecting your own insecurities So you attack my character rather than to address the argument. It speaks volumes that you have no real counter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:14 AM
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I asked you a bunch of questions you still haven't addressed what you said: The same woman can publicly value good character yet date someone who doesn't live up to that standard because attraction involves many factors besides morality.. Why is it that you guys are so focused on fake and fickle women? "you are actually disingenuous and bad faith" why is that your answer to my questions? Is it because you'd have to notice why you're not better than they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:11 AM
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I could also throw it back the other way and say the women that claim they want a respectful, kind and caring man... dont really want a respectful, kind and caring man, they fawn over the bad boy. Do you believe that? You clearly dont believe it... so why do you believe it with the genders reversed? Going to copy and paste because you definitely didn't read: I say this because alot of guys are obsessed with women who say they want a good guy but go around guys who are obviously bad. YEAH. FAKE A…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:05 AM
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“See men just want shallow women” No, it's not. It's "You guys are shallow, that's why you only know shallow, fake, fickle, immoral women."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:01 AM
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Are you just upset that I'm calling guys out for the types of women you guys clearly want? Also, some guys just admitted they wanted those women because those women approach them. Meaning, these guys are shockingly lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:00 AM
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If we just look at literally just his words, these guys are lazy and then blaming their laziness on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:50 AM
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They make no effort whatsoever to put themselves in the paths of men, So according to you guys, men are lazy as hell. And then want to blame women because they only know fake, fickle, immortal women that date vile men because he's too lazy to go talk to women himself. Thus, showing a massive lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:44 AM
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Talking. Values. Hobbies. You guys wouldn't be always tired out getting women to like you if you focused on being likable and focusing on finding women you like what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:41 AM
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it's also, women who claim they find 1 men attractive every few month. So being superficial is men unless the guy is looking closer to Jeremy Meeks. again we have countless examples of guys who really should be incels but aren't due to being attractive. Most guys aren't going to get to that level. And also examples of guys who do everything right By their own standards, not by what society actually told him. Women have never told men that being nice was sexy. No one told men that women get horny…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:38 AM
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Absolute pieces of shit are pretty rare though They's not rare. First of all, 1 in 6 boys have/had a positive view of Andrew Tate. That's not rare. Also, if being a piece of shit was rare, why is cheating common?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:27 AM
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It could also point to men being more trusting than women, That doesnt work when they then start saying misogynistic shit about women based on his laziness of expecting women to approach him. simply being worse at judging character. Yeah, I know. At any rate there's no reason to assume that women who initiate with men rather than doing the gender role crap are always going to be fake/immoral women Except the post is about fake and fickle women who date vile men. Assuming you guys actually read t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:21 AM
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So guys are lazy, they're not talking to women, and then they wanna talk shit about women based on their experiences of expecting women to approach them, getting upset that she's fake and fickle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:18 AM
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... by talking to them? By being flirty? So he's so lazy he doesnt talk to other women and then proceeds to talk massive shit about women because the ones who talk to him because they're fake, fickle, and date awful men? If anything acting super horny and obsessed will push a guy away from seeking an LTR. Then why do you guys seem to only know women who allow men to treat her like shit? What's with the obsession of from this sub for men to be "strongly desired" by women? What's with this three d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:17 AM
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movies Name the movies. It's only the last half decade maybe where we have insane chicks going on podcasts saying you need $500k/year and be built like Adonis Imagine my shock, guys wanting to hear what a bunch of hot girls with their titties out have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:23 AM
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Unless he is an absolute piece of shit That's the issue. We're talking about pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:22 AM
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I mean, when it comes to dating most people are picky and shallow. Even the "good" ones. Exactly, they're full of shit. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:21 AM
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Here's the problme with your little theory, he's implying men dont want moral women because they dont approach men. But thing is, if men find this women to be so fake and fickle, wanting bad men, WHY would they want those women? Easier sexual access is the only logical answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:20 AM
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So why are they complaining about the women who approach them? If they find them annoying, approach women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:18 AM
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Again the stuff that only matters once your in the door. Most guys are, but if he's a superficial piece of shit the requirements gonna be higher to tolerate that bullshit of his. he has the personality The guys you describe have horrid personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:14 AM
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I made a post about this: You guys can't be upset with women who dont care about morals when you also dont care about morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:11 AM
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I've seen it with EVERY type of women across the board Sounds like having a type. Because if different types women of women aren't pursuing different types of guys, I'm gonna have to question what makes them so different from one another. It doesn't matter if they're trashy or tradcons, If she's wanting vile people, she's trashy. Like I said, you guys give attractive women way too much credit. There's fake and fickle woman in every subculture and culture and socioeconomic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:09 AM
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There is, however, a shortage of those people who are available and attractive. Then why isn't THAT the complaint? Because these guys know they sound picky and shallow as hell, instead of the victims they want to pretend to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:23 AM
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Because those fake women are more willing to actually make a move on those guys, Oh wow, I was right. Wanting horny women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:21 AM
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Be nice, be giving, be sweet, do this for her, do that for her, don't be like those player assholes, etc. No one said to do that to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:18 AM
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something needs to grab someone’s attention before you can sell a product The guy could focus on compatibility or he can be a superficial attention whore, wondering why women who care about morals dont want his attention whoring ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:59 AM
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The guy said "any signs to work with". How would they be getting that sign from other women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:58 AM
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"I don't want to make women uncomfortable, so I don't make a move on them unless they've given me some kind of sign that they're receptive to such an advance." That doesnt explain why they only focus on the fake and fickle women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:57 AM
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The nice guy act is not real safety. It’s just not danger. Nah, alot of times, it's hidden danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:56 AM
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But those good girls aren't giving the guys any signs to work with, Oh wow, imagine my shock, admitting these guys want women super horny and obsessed. so the guys are respecting her by not moving in on her. Neither are the other women!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:49 AM
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Being in shape, In America, that's high looks standards. I don't think all or even most of those attractive women are fake or bimbos But they're the ones most likely to appeal to the male gaze. So these guys are picky, shallow, and dont give two shits about morals. They're just like the women they about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:44 AM
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The confusion and frustration comes from many women talking about how important moral traits are for a guy, and implying guys that struggle dating are probably deficient in these, but then the real world does not really support that. Simple question to guys to the mirror: Why should people put up with your shit? Most women absolutely will go for guys that are morally average or slightly leaning towards being an asshole if they are good looking Good looking is an outlier. Therefore, for most men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:42 AM
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The perspective is that all the sweet meeks are taken, or already know who they want to be with. Sounds more like a confession these guys are low quality. I could also throw it back the other way and say the women that claim they want a respectful, kind and caring man... dont really want a respectful, kind and caring man, they fawn over the bad boy. Do you believe that? Did you read the title and the first paragraph?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:34 AM
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I don't think the issue is that morals "don't matter". The issue is that no matter what, everyone wants someone they're attracted to But why are they only attracted to fake and fickle women? They can't find attractive women who aren't bimbos? Because it sounds like their looks standards are high.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:09 AM
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Let me make this short: What liberal media and liberal political commentators are your young liberal friends watching? If they're passionately liberal, they're following some influencers. Which ones are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:46 PM
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You seem to have forgotten we're talking about DATING in this post. Also YOUNG WOMEN. Most young women are nowhere near marriage in this day, especially liberal women. So you bringing up women, who are clearly older, is irrelevant to the conversation. I didn't think I had to say it outright. I THOUGHT I didn't have to bring up the videos, but I guess I do. If guys were able to find liberal women that chill, they wouldn't be complaining about them and those liberal women wouldn't be saying they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:33 PM
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They don't understand why abusers are adored and chosen for relationship. They go 'I never beat or abused someone, yet I get less, why?' Why should I research on abuse? I am not abuse victim. So it's not genuine curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:05 PM
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thry have children and only 1/3 are "married". That means 2/3 aren't. So you're already talking outside the demographic. Nope. But most leftists do! Didn't think I'd have to say it: If she's young and passionate, she'll most likely be a leftist. Even the ones who are not like "Everything triggers me" are not going to break bread with republicans. They'll admit that alot of leftists are looney and terrible, but they're not going to concede to republicans. More descriptions of deranged violent lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:33 PM
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Because they wanna be selfish inconsiderate pricks, like objectifying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:25 PM
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It's fascinating how one person can be so contradictory, So how is being considerate and coddling the same thing. Tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:17 PM
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But do you truly believe that it is possible to struggle without doing anything wrong? Im waiting for proof of that. Even the proof I'm given was just the guys being superficial assholes. And women are fair and just and look for compatibility and vibes, not just appearence and height. Those are bad women, you don't want them anyway, right? If it ALWAYS the case, that guy just wants superficial women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:04 PM
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Now tell me how it is my fault Well, show your profile. The guy who swiped 2 million times also thought he did nothing wrong and was trying to show tinder and women are unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:57 PM
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You vet because you still has volume. Men also vet, just not as superficial as women. So I posted about some of the experiments that showed how hard men have it. One guy got 290 matches and only talked to 99 women. He outright ignored the with 191 women. Also, he set his age range to 18 to 25 despite being 22. He could have extended it to 18 to 30 if he was actually struggling with volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:48 PM
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I personally know several women who meet all 4 criteria who are dating, engaged to, or married to men who self-define as moderate, Most young people are unmarried and childless, especially liberal women. oppose drag queen story hour/gender unicorn/pronoun pins/transition of minors/transition by schools without parental consent, Most young passionately liberal women would just call that bigotry. support deporting illegals who commit crimes, Most young liberal passionate women hate ICE and are try…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:46 PM
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No, it's just pragmatic realism. You can't be compatible with everyone, And yet, you guys will sit there focusing on volume rather than success, then complain about wasting time. here will be bad dates or just not good ones. It's ok. You guys are okay wasting time with incompatible people because you care more about volume. Remembrr your last date? Yes, my first dates got more successful when I focused more on vetting than volume. It was your last chance, We already looked through the profile of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:39 PM
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We want someone compatible, You guys keep claiming this as if that's important, but it's not. You want volume. If you cared about compatibility you would be more concern if those 3 women are compatible. You guys care more about volume. You'll take 100 dates to get 1 successful one over 10 dates and get 5 successful ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:28 PM
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Thing is, most people aren't going to call out your flaws while dating. They'll simply stop dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:25 PM
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Does not warrant women's ~3% right swipe rate. So you dont actually care about compatibility. You care about volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:20 PM
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Not much to research here. Saying you dont believe abuse is well researched shows you haven't tried researching on abuse for even a single second. Some outwardly judged and condemned behavioral patterns are rewarded in practice. Thanks for showing an emotional opinion on the topic instead of researching on it like a logical person would.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:19 PM
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What I'm saying is that the incels complaining about abusers can't even be a dickhead to women, Elliot Rodgers' own words: "While they throw themselves at these obnoxious brutes." Im pretty sure posting the rest of what Elliot said will get me flagged, so here's an article about it: https://www.mic.com/articles/89905/what-elliot-rodger-said-about-women-reveals-why-we-need-to-stamp-out-misogyny?utm_source EDIT: Also, I compiled what you were talking about "I think if some men were capable of beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:16 PM
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If anything, they're being overly logical. Logical people research.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:05 PM
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Most of the country So you're still ignoring the factors I said: Young Liberal Female Passionate about politics. Again, I just named four different factors you’re ignoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:36 PM
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Women want to be adored simply for "being there".. How about stop chasing Stacy? Because if that's all you see, there you're chasing women who are highly desirable. Lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:34 PM
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If that's what guys here call being considerate of others, that's why they're told their personality is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:31 PM
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You didn't reference the post. I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:30 PM
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does that also not imply there like... mid personality women? Let's look at a funny example. Do you think a woman with mid personality standards be okay with a guy who says these things in a text? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EKJZ330TE6w Complaining that ones nature does not benefit them does not mean they will only do good if they are rewarded. Why are they doing things to benefit themselves? I give beggars money because I have money and it's the right thing to do. I hate doing good things so…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:30 PM
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Or maybe they are just confused? Then they better stop being confused immediately and do some research. On a logical level, it could seem confusing why women choose abusers They better immediately go research on abuse. But logic does not account for feelings and emotions. Being overemotional is not an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:18 PM
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What I'm saying is that the incels complaining about abusers can't even be a dickhead to women, much less an abuser. I mean, r/niceguys shows that's not the case. How do you try to be an abuser? Before Elliot Rodger committed his final act, he poured coffee on women for not paying attention to him. Chris Chan still never had a girlfriend and he was still sexually harassing his friend. And this is before he raped his own mother. He wouldn't have attempted to SA her if she wasn't helpless due to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:15 PM
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Im still waiting for the names.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:31 PM
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A popular media example is Megamind. Megamind gave powers to a guy he saw as meek and gentle. Onve that guy got power, he became an even worse villain than Megamind. But anyway, I wasn't talking about criminals But my post mentions abusers. Physical and sexual abuse or felonies. I was talking about guys who string women along Oh. Those guys try. They’re just not good at it. Things that 'decent' men seem to be able to do without being called indecent. I’m going to need an example from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:57 PM
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Is it "entitled" to ask why your narrative doesn't fit reality? People have already addressed that topic and I even addressed it in my post. These guys aren’t asking questions, they’re assholes who are mad people won’t coddle them. If they were actually curious, they would listen and search for the answers that are already there. They don’t want to know the answer, they want people to tell them that they’re a little good boys who deserve everything, like the entitled pricks they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:46 PM
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I think if some men were capable of becoming that asshole man that they describe hating, they would have already done it. Because they know the consequences arent worth it. Who wants to the the Tate brothers right now? Many of them dont care about the consequence and do things like Elliot Rodgers did, why do you think incels became recognized as an international theeat? There’s more to say, but I wanted to make sure you understood, they would if they were okay with the consequences or if the con…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:40 PM
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Who are they exactly The men you’re describing. If you don’t remember what you wrote, then this conversation is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:20 PM
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See how you can’t even defend against the accusation of victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:20 PM
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So they don’t feel their responsible for their own actions. I explained why I came to the conclusions I did. They don’t change because you don’t like how your actions and belief sound to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:06 PM
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I will actually take this criticism, I used a poor choice of words. And if those guys took responsibility more instead of arguing, when they’re criticized, they would be liked a lot more. But, this is not about how good a person you are, this is about how attractive you can appear. We are talking about the reason their dating lives are bad This was already address in my post: A lot of these guys seem to want women with very low personality standards. They imagine a woman who has dated the worst …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:05 PM
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attempting to advance one's self interest in a position of powerlessness. Powerlessness because of desperation? Here we go again, off in your own lilith world Except you just said men are powerless, so they don’t feel their responsible for their own actions. I explained why I came to the conclusions I did. They don’t change because you don’t like how your actions and belief sound to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:01 PM
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Good people are as fallible as anyone else. Oh yes, like people bring up CSA as a solution to inceldom will totally be seen as good by the general problem. Bad people claim theyre flawed misunderstood good people all the time. What they think and what they do determines whether they’re good or bad, not their own opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:58 PM
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Neither, I am not interested in relationships whatsoever Then why would you say? It implies that heterosexual intercourse, which is a shared male/female activity, is dominated, certainly in the lower brackets, by women's power So ignoring red flags to get sex….so thinking with one’s dick. Then why do women have universal access to sex and romance? Because alot of men are desperate and think with their dicks, but they want to believe theyre the majority. Otherwise they have to take accountability…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:46 PM
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Which is just at best your interpretation of someone's feelings See, you guys don’t want to hear when people say your actions might be conveying the opposite of what you’re feeling. You guys are simply the ones I don’t want to listen because you hate criticism. I'll say for the second time, if they're victim blaming and hurling abuse at a woman they're interested in The fact that it’s only a problem when it’s someone the man it’s interested in says a lot. But go ahead and complain about me criti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:43 PM
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My question isn’t about whether fake or inconsistent people exist that’s obvious. Then why are you bringing up the obvious? My point is that many women publicly claim morality is a prerequisite for attraction, yet some are still drawn to men who clearly don’t meet that standard. Yes, fake and fickle people exist. Why are you bringing up the obvious? That contradiction is what people are asking about. Fake and fickle exist. Why are they asking the obvious? I’m not holding men to a “higher standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:29 PM
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Not getting into a relationship lowers your chances of having a succesful relationship infinitely more than poor behaviour once in them. So youre more concerned about getting into a relationship, rather than concerned about being into a good one. Most people dont think like that. A desperate person thinks like that. It's said because it's true. Their personality made them unattractive. Which is a problem unique to men That implies men don’t think a bad personality makes a woman unattractive. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:17 PM
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and also accusing me of doing sexist bullshit This post is about men being sexists, so why are you arguing against people not liking them? Did you not read the post? I gave you the benefit of a doubt, but it seems you didn’t read the post. when you don't even know me You don’t know me, and you don’t know women enough to know they don’t give men the benefit of a doubt. So why are you projecting? You get to make claims about people while others can’t? We're sick of it, and the Red Pill is our way …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:13 PM
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Then elaborate, why isn’t there a relationship between what I’m saying and what you’re saying. I bet you can’t explain it because you just don’t wanna answer what I said because you dont have a real counter. You guys clearly think most people will ignore red flags to get into a relationship. I’m telling you right now that’s not the majority of people. That’s just being desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:58 PM
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But you aren’t talking about behaviors, Thanks for showing YOU dont listen. This whole post has been about behavior. Nice guys aren’t bad because they feel the way they feel Its what how they behave and how they talk, but you do t want to hear that because none of you like criticism. Are the actions these commit make them assholish things? Are the words they say to the women they’re interested in offensive? Whiny? Entitled? “ Also, most men also do not spend their time victim blaming abuse victi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:57 PM
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Also, plenty of guys dumped their friend after seeing how those friends treat and talk to women. And plenty of people think they’re talking to a decent person until they see that the decent person actually likes weird shit with children in it or had fucked up opinions. In relationships and dating, these things usually come out because relationships typically require knowing somebody on an intimate level, while with friendships, you can just merely be acquaintances you talk to once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:31 PM
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When you say things like “They want her to see them as a savior and reward them with sex, admiration, and gratitude” Then stop sounding like that. You guys don’t seem to want to listen to people telling you how bad you sound to others. It still goes back to what I was saying, what you guys feel is irrelevant versus how you guys behave to others. You can prove that someone is in a situationship or not because situationships are an action Going around complaining about how good of a guy you are an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:27 PM
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Everything they grew up on led them to believe that women want a good man That doesn’t mean you guys are acting like the good men they want, as I explained in the post. You know, the guy who saves the damsel in distress Iso media made by men for male consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:18 PM
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You can’t decide to disagree with someone else’s feelings Thank you for proving my point. We do listen to you guys say that. We’re saying you’re feelings don’t change facts and reality. Just because you don’t feel like an asshole doesn’t mean you’re not an asshole. “Actually when you guys say how you feel you actually mean x”. Because you guys don’t feel like an asshole, you guys won’t listen to people say you sound like an asshole, which is why they don’t like you. You guys will go on to say ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:13 PM
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Which is a problem unique to men No, a lot of men with their genders and are upset that they can’t get women to think with their genitals. Not getting into a relationship lowers your chances of having a succesful relationship infinitely more than poor behaviour once in them. Most people don’t get into relationships that they can predict will be low quality. It wouldn't matter what women said or didn't say if it wasn't for the very real power they exercice Most men don’t talk like that and most a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:10 PM
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Women do listen. You guys just think we should coddle and agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:07 PM
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Np .reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vb8l3h/comment/p0rqhem/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:06 PM
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We have to prove our worth before we deserve nice treatment Most men dont think like this. We don't deserve the benefit of the doubt So you guys wanna do some sexist bullshit and not deal with the consequences of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:05 PM
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Polls regarding isolated men don't show any major ideological lean Because they never asked incels their views on social justice and feminism. Only exception is dating apps, where (all else equal) openly conservative men do worse than other types You just proved my point. Anti-woke guys are just more likely to be outspoken about the issue Theyre also more likely to be bigots with a victim complex. Pro-woke guys obey liberal feminism and don't complain about being alone, Okay? So?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:03 PM
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If you cant even name the media that lied to you, you werent lied to by media. If youre willing to lie about that, youre willing to lie about the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:00 PM
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Y'all create new characteristics for the men here I have merely been copying and pasting what guys here said and tell them how it sounds to other people. Also, no one said they have no personality. Youre the one making stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:59 AM
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Probably not much she could have done. I rest my case. Stop victim blaming. Are you trying to say that saying "people should take precaution" automatically means I'm blaming anyone who gets attacked anywhere, anytime, in any circumstance? And you just admitted that advice is useless. So you would never ask anyone to take caution Youre not giving advice on safety, youre criticizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:56 AM
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………… The fact you assume men have never made unhinge disgusting profiles is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:53 AM
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Parents I already did a post in this. Thats the result of coddling so these guys listen to people who always compliment them. married people, women peers If women commonly say those things, I’ll be waiting for you guys to show me any proof of this. I have yet to see you guys produce it. various media figures List those names! it's genuinely surprising that you're even asking this question Because I guarantee none of you have proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:51 AM
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Women use sex to become victims So more victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:49 AM
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Most women arent compatible with misogynists nor do they want to give them a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:48 AM
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am asking why a large amount of women do not actually apply a standard they claim A lot of people are fake and stupid, why is that news to you? Do you hold men on a higher sexist standard? thats what men are confused So because theyre sexist manchildren. you are the one claiming this doesnt happen Copy and paste where I did that. men who complain or having issues with dating are obviously morally shitty If they’re what youre describing, 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:46 AM
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They don't understand why abusers are adored It’s 2026, people have been having this conversation for two decades, especially the last decade. They don’t want to understand, they want to be misogynists. They go 'I never beat or abused someone, yet I get less, why?' So like the entitled pricks that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:41 AM
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None of those things said be entitled, bitter misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:39 AM
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Men don't think they're owed "adoration" for not being abusive or manipulative and for contributing positively to society. But men do think they're owed not being summarily excluded and alienated from society. This can be hard for women to understand You didnt read my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:38 AM
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Have you ever considered the possibility that you bring out the worst in people? Good people dont excuses for their bad behavior. That the reason you find yourself surrounded by men who are "no good" might be that they can't afford to show you their good side, Bad guys say this. Not good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:03 AM
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The problem with people like her is they'll always shift the goal post to make sure to tell you,YOU are the problem. Today it's about you not being abusers, Tommorow it's about you being rapists, then it's about you searching for women like these and you inability to do so,the post will always move. Copy and paste where my post had anything to do with your rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:01 AM
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There's billions of women. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:56 AM
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So, a lot of men like this, who are inexperienced and don't understand the code people speak in, hear "if you had a good personality you'd have a girlfriend" WHO TOLD MEN THIS? Notice, that's confusion and frustration. Not entitlement. You can be confused and frustrated that you did 'everything you were supposed to' Who told them these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:55 AM
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Proving my point. They are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:52 AM
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So you have done nothing kind to counteract sexism. It's not "A rude kindness beats a polite cruelty every time." it's just being rude and not wanting to change. That's the type of shit "good guys" do and wonder why no one likes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:52 AM
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Tell this to blue pillars here especially blue pilled women. I dont care, focus on the post. they simply avoid who isn’t hot Then most men would be avoided. Like guys here keep showing, you guys want pretty privilege. the issue is that women like this are exponentially rare, They're rare to guys whose personality is shit. Also every relationship pretty much is transactional Women with high personality standards avoid men who think that way. I do find it funny that only when its a men asking “so …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:50 AM
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The bad man would see it as a reward, Exactly. That's what she is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:42 AM
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I don't care about your whataboutism. Why would you assume people would care about yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:41 AM
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What kindness are you bestowing upon people to counteract objectifying women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:39 AM
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How did that change what I said? Do you think most men do Whataboutism?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:31 AM
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Convenient that your definition of good includes "kowtows to shame the moment I'm uncomfy." .....So your definition of being a good person is being inconsiderate of others. Thus, proving my point of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:29 AM
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If we can't even use the word "reward" in a psychological context because it upsets your Women's Studies degree, Most men would hear "Hey, that sounds offensive" and respond with "Sorry, didn't mean to be. I wont do it again". An asshole gets offended when corrected. When I say something my LGBT friends think is offensive, I simply stop saying it. It doesn't matter if I didn't mean harm by it, I just stop saying it, because I want to be considerate of their feeling. Good people are considerate o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:24 AM
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Rapist and women beaters are getting girlfriends Most men dont think like this. They also dont want women who knowingly and gleefully date those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:20 AM
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no one would have said anything if women did not use "it's your personality, bro" every time a man complains about dating. And? You admitted yourself that women prioritize looks and excitement So you guys actually do want women who have low personality standards. You just dont like when it's said to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:19 AM
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It's not different women,. It's just that these women are fake and these guys never gravitate to women who have conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:18 AM
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but rather that when men who lack morals receive praise or female attention Similar to what someone else said: Why do you want those women? but many women claim that being moral is the bare minimum and a prerequisite for attraction. Why do you want women who are fickle and fake? So, when someone who doesn’t meet that standard still attracts interest, Who's claiming he's meeting that standard? They don’t believe they are owed anything; they’re simply asking why you’re attracted to someone doing l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:17 AM
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Here we go again. Men are trash Most men can handle criticism without crying victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:15 AM
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These men don't see you as a fuck trophy, either. Then when women say "stop talking about us rewarding guys, it's creepy and diverts accountability away from men" listen. Because part of being a good person is listening and fixing your behavior, even if it's a misunderstanding. They're just confused by the fact that men and women don't speak the same language. It's 2026. They better stop being confused very quickly. In the age of the internet where women have talked about this topic for a couple…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:14 AM
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They complain about all men, Why do you only know the women who hate men? I even know SA survivors who dont blame every man for their trauma. Then the men who wouldn't do what the bad men do are confused, say "I would never do that. Why would you go for a man that would?" As my post explains, not being an abuser make a criminal a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:11 AM
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But women have been constantly saying, “the way you talk and think about women makes you bad too”. Hence the rest of what I said in my post. Women don’t like to be seen as fuck trophies and most men don’t think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:02 AM
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Then stop describing stupid women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:33 PM
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When did acknowledge dumb women exist is femcel behavior? You literally cannot fathom your average girl For example, look ip the Danish Deception. The general consensus is not that Onyeka was an average girl. It’s that she’s stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:32 PM
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You deny reality Im still waiting for that research.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:30 PM
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So would you tell someone to walk through the hood with thousands of dollars If he gets robbed, the police should find the criminal and arrest him. That’s what I would say because I’m not a piece of shit victim blamer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:29 PM
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I was talking about the research that shows women I keep asking for the research that shows people are OK with victim blame me, and you have not produced anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:28 PM
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I asked because I wanted to know how far gone you are. There is the confession. You werent actually asking a question. You actually were trying to put your opinions into it. I don’t care for the projection, touch grass, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:27 PM
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Imagine if some hard-core Imagine talking to a guy who brings up CSA as a solution to inceldom because someone says incels don’t lower their standards enough to actyally be incels in. Imagine trying to take the guy seriously after he suggests that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:25 PM
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Much more women are dishonest about their standards than men. Do you hold men to such a high sexist regard? Glad thats a yes to my question. I have multiple examples of men being liars about their standard standards. Typically about how they have reasonable low standards but then get upset when you tell them what it looks like to actually have reasonable low standards . And I wouldn’t care about those women if the mentioned probability of encountering them while looking for good women wouldn’t b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:24 PM
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Multiple peope being the minority What makes up them the minority? Because not literally everyone you know will say a stupid person is stupid? They’ll just talk bad about the stupid person behind their back and politely not wanna be around the stupid person. Same thing happens to guys who are assholes. They’re not always told theyre assholes, people just silently and politely distance themselves from those guys. And conservative men will want conservative women I just showed a video of guy who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:21 PM
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Why do you assume every girl who’s fallen for a “bad boy” with obvious red flags You just described a stupid bitch. It’s just you guys aren’t willing to admit that because it makes you look bad for even wanting her. A lot of these girls are pretty, smart You guys only called them smart because you want to fuck them. typically come from decent households You guys are calling stupid women smart, I don’t trust that you guys know what a decent household looks like.. Stupid people exist in all social…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:08 PM
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I do not get this idea that women find men repulsive if they are not 'beautiful They want pretty privilege so all their other flaws can be ignored. They’re mad men are more willing to look past all the woman’s red flags for her looks and than women are for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:03 PM
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The women who are struggling always seem to get issues with men being "obsessed with sex". Most people in the west have this issue because it’s gross. Learn some self-control. Men who want sex early. Men who bring up sex. Not only do a lot of guys not make sure the women they pursue also want sex like he does, they suck at it. Men who make sexual comments. Men who make sexual jokes. They're jaded/annoyed/pissed off at men for putting the priority on sex So is the rest of Western society. Alot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:02 PM
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Not only, Then who cares? Fake people exist. You think men are never fake? Do you hold men to such a high sexist regard? regardless of what men do, No, being misogynistic about it matters. If you can find better women, why you so observed with the shitty ones? Makes it sound like you wanna fuck them. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:28 PM
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You literally did this two comments ago, So an idiot being called out for being an idiot. What are you not getting: Liberal woman want liberal man. If you're not liberal, why complain about not getting liberal women? Thats stupid. Such as? We just went through this. Also, the example I gave. Most of them do it once maybe twice and generally if it's a relative No one cares that stupid people are upset that multiple people call them stupid. Stop being stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:26 PM
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Those women are hard to avoid If you only know those types of women, thats a personal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:23 PM
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You wanting those women is YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:01 PM
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I'm not trying to insult you Lying isn't going to work. You wanted to ask a BS question about "how many struggling guys are actually terrible" and when you didn't like my answers, you basically tried to say "Touch grass". If you dont like this sub, you leave and touch grass instead of trying to feel morally superior when you're just being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:00 PM
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The left and bluepill Where? They say alot of men lie about being good men and they're assholes too. They follow there advice\ What advice? You guys lie about what you were told constantly. The Left's Marriage Problem: Fewer Liberals Marry That can be by choice, not because of struggle. The left has a marriage problem That's not a marriage problem. Liberals are less expected to marry. Your evidence of leftist incels are people who choose to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:58 PM
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Different from saying that someone is stupid for not dating whatever party they vote Which I will wait for you link where I said this. People complain about things all the time, Some of their complaints are stupid. Hence, they will be called out for being stupid. it's just human behavior, Calling out the stupid people is also human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:55 PM
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Imagine my shock how fact you went straight to insulting when you couldn't defend your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:54 PM
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I'm still waiting on that research about victim blaming being okay in Western society. This is a debate sub. Repeating how you think victim blaming is okay is debating in your eyes? You should be open to having your views change. Repeating how you think victim blaming is being open to having your views change?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:52 PM
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Considering how most women don’t engage in hookups or short-term relationships and that most men also want that, I would say yes, this should imply that women find kindness the most attractive trait. That makes no sense. So you guys lied to yourselves. And it’s hard not to bump into these women When you dont care about moral standards yourself, of course. however good and progressive they otherwise might be. The fact you guys describe fake women as "good" says alot about your own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:52 PM
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I am not the other men on this subreddit, Then stop talking like them. They also dont like being agreeable. Discussion with you is nonproductive and sheds no light. No, it shows you guys hate being agreeable and how you dont like me to group you up with the very guys you agree with. until you can address your tendency towards overgeneralization Stop looking like a duck, stop walking like a duck, stop quaking like a duck. Then you wont be accused of being a duck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:38 PM
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Worldwide, women of all sexual orientations said that kindness, supportiveness, intelligence, education, and confidence were very important traits in a long-term partner. That didn't say women get horny over morals. And being appalled by others’ willingness to include absolutely immoral people Then dont date those women. while pretending to be virtuous Stop wanting to fuck fake women. Up your own standards for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:36 PM
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The research IS out there. WHERE'S THE RESEARCH?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:34 PM
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Except no one is stupid If a guy keeps having unrealistic standards for dating and then cry about his dating struggles, he's no better than a toddler who keeps putting their hand on the hot stove and crying about it every time. they don't vote whatever party they vote If a conservative guy wants a liberal woman and then complaints liberal women want a liberal man, he is stupid. You just like changing the argument so the men dont sound as stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:33 PM
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Then there should be basically no liberal incels You guys cant even explain what they believe in. Also, you're changing the topic. The 5/10 leftist feminist men with the “right“ personality are finding themselves more and more single then the guys who practice “wrong think” that’s the argument. Give an example. Dont just claim shit,. give an example. If that is so common, you can find something for me to look at. its not even just pretty privilege that’s being discussed That is the only thing yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:30 PM
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Is that all you do? Just spam my comments with low effort replies? Then get upset when I remind you of a talking point YOU CREATED?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:27 PM
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Well, most people's experience is the majority of the time. Because I dont see any of you describing struggling men who aren't massive pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:26 PM
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Guys can plainly see women flock to legitimate bullies, Because they admire those bullies, especially when bullies blame their victims for being bullied.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:25 PM
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Are you serious right now? More serious than a man trying to sound like predators who blame their victims. When it's convenient to their arguments 'Like victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:24 PM
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The research IS out there. First, find the research that says Victim blaming is okay to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:23 PM
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And you guys just don’t want to admit that a large portion of women are simply not as attracted to moral values WHO TOLD YOU GUYS MORALS MADE PUSSY WET? I had to make this in big letters because this is such a reoccurring complaint, but none of you can actually explain who actually told you women get wet over morals. It’s easier to say that all of those men can’t find a partner because they are bad men If they were only nice to get their dicks wet, absolutely they were bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:16 PM
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Three paragraphs and YOU STILL couldnt say “Yes, being agreeable is a good thing”. Still, yes, the default behavior in modern Western society would be to be somewhat agreeable Because you hate the idea of being agreeable. That’s why you have to say a tiny bit of being agreeable is OK. In a low-trust society So more excuses why you want to be disagreeable. But it isn't AGAIN. I REST MY CASE. You guys despise the idea of being pleasant and then you wonder why you’re dating lives suck. Women don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:12 PM
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If they behave like the men in this sub, 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:10 PM

They struggle because even otherwise morally good women have unhealthy standards Men with good morals don’t think like this because they can find women with good morals. A guy that’s bitter and entitled thinks this way. Most men don’t struggle with dating because they’re bad people. You guys like to make this argument because you don’t like when people are actually saying “You are acting like an ass, so it’s no wonder why you’re not doing well with people”. and morality is often not the most att…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:08 PM
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Elliot Rogers wasn't just anti woke, he was completely unhinged Yeah. Thats how people feel about incels and MAGA. Just because Elliot took it as far as he did doesn’t mean there aren’t guys like Elliot around, it’s just they don’t get as much notoriety because they don’t do things that put them in the news. 2million swipe guy would be well in that bottom There’s a bunch of morbidly obese women too. I feel like you guys keep forgetting that when you talk about looks. Maybe y'all live in some ugl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:04 PM
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The people who insults others by calling them stupid No one cares that stupid people hate being called stupid. They could always stop being stupid. assumes they are assholes You just admitted that you think it’s justified to be assholes to people who give these people a reality check.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:02 PM
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You keep missing the nuance You could just say “Yes, being agreeable is a good thing” but you cant, because you dont believe it is. There are situations where being pleasant and agreeable is called for Like most of the time, but you guys don’t want to hear that because you think that’s weakness. Someone who is overly disagreeable Being disagreeable in itself is a bad thing. By its definition, it is a bad thing. The fact that you guys are trying to makw the case to be disagreeable, shows that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:48 PM
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Pointing out a phenomenon Pointing out that you think women want to be abused is still victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:43 PM
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And I gave you a reason as to why these people deserve to be treated poorly Who deserves poor treatment? The asshole, or the people who offended the asshole by giving him a reality check?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:43 PM

But is less likely to happen in real life than online. I mean, crime has gone down in the age of the Internet. With the exception of 2020 due to the pandemic restrictions. I'm also going to say something controversial, but there are many people that are subconsciously attracted to abusive partners and predators So you’d rather be leave that than to acknowledge a lot of people come from dysfunctional terrible environments? This doesn't change the fact that you're at a higher risk of ending with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:02 PM
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Irrelevant to either their conservatism …….not you ignoring the massive correlation between religiousness and conservatism. Funny, I'm married to a liberal women, and I dated liberal and conservative women before her. I just don't date leftist women So you dont date women passionate about their politics, as I said. And I highly doubt theyre Zoomers. So are you suggesting young liberal women are a monolith? Young Liberal Female Passionate about politics. I just named four different factors you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:58 PM
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I gave a reason. You just dont want to hear it. Getting upset that your standards criticized for being unrealistic is being a manchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:50 PM
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I said that there was a certain je na sais qoui about abusive men that women seem to be drawn to “Women are drawn to abusers” victim blaming. Men who blame abuse victims are not going to understand misogyny when they see it. and lots don't leave these situations despite all of the support networks and resources available to do so “Its your fault for not leaving” victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:48 PM
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You can have basically everything to offer Give an example. What you guys claim is having everything to offer is very surface level stuff without considering personality and compatibility. For what guys on here and on YouTube have shown, they think having a good job and good pictures is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:46 PM
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And people are entilted to treat others poorly if they are being treated poorly, Being criticized for having unrealistic standards while crying about being alone is not being treated poorly. That’s just a manchild upset at being criticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:45 PM
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There are lots of "conservatives" who don't support Trump, and didn't vote for him. If they’re not voting Democrat, it doesn’t matter. There are also lots of "conservatives" who practice pre-marital sex. They still go to church. These simple-minded arguments If that’s how you feel about liberal women, you can’t date liberal women. You can’t date liberal women who are passionate about their politics and not support their politics. And many conservatives oppose many specific social programs for de…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:42 PM
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How is that mysogynistic to believe? I don’t think somebody who implied abuse victims are stupid is going to understand anyways: Some men lead with their wallets So? some women lead with sex So? If you don't think sex is a major bargaining chip a lot of women Misogyny, reducing women to sex objects and fuck trophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:34 PM

I don't necessary think that people intend to lead with their looks. It's just that looks is the only thing that's obvious from a profile. Cool pictures don't substitute motion or a good personality. But the guys who could play the most about not doing well with women typically think good looks and good. Pictures are a substitute for compatibility in personality. You even see this problem in this sub. I also don't think you can bullshit chemistry. Chemistry and a bad character aren't mutually ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:30 PM
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This simply comes down to the fact there are more conservative men than conservative women Did you watch the videos? These guys aren’t saying they can’t find conservative women. They don’t want conservative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:26 PM
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Non sequitur. Then what you said is also irrelevant. Agreeableness being bad and excessive agreeableness being harmful Because if you actually thought being agreeable is fine, you would simply say “Guys should be agreeable”. Instead, you guys gotta try to find reasons to make it sound like a bad thing. Agreeableness isn't even the same as actual kindness See. You’re trying to find reasons to argue that being agreeable is a bad thing. Psychologically healthy people are going to adapt their behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:23 PM
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Abortion restrictions aren't the goal That was a massive goal for the pro-life movement. Like I said, you not knowing that shows you’re not that aware of America’s political landscape. This is the last time I’m going to talk about this, because I’m not talking to someone who can’t accept reality.. They want this so that fewer women get abortions. But post Dobbs more women are getting abortions You’re not even reading those statistics right. The places with legal abortions are getting more aborti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:11 PM
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And again, people can act like assholes to others while not to others depending on these people actions, if these people actions are included of things like advocating for dating people they are not attracted to Let me repeat myself, you’re not justified in being an asshole just because you don’t like hearing that the women you find attractive don’t want you and that if you actually want someone to be with you, you have to lower your standards. Men are not victims because their standards are stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:09 PM
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It's kinda hard to respond back if you take things out of context Says the person who kept insisting people hated struggling men for no reason. if these people actions are included of things like advocating for dating people they are not attracted to See how you completely ignored the bigotry, the misogyny, the victim complex, and, the sense of entitlement. No, you just got mad because people told them that their unrealistic expectations is why they’re single. Being an asshole because people tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:05 PM
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Is that really a win for the pro-life crowd? Most of them didn’t want it in their state and they wanted to make it harder for women to get abortions. Like I said, the fact you didn’t know that says you really arent big into politics and aren’t really paying attention to the political landscape..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:00 PM
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No, I'm not doing that. He did pick them So he’s responsible. He outright said he was going to appoint people to overturn Roe v. Wade. To act like that wasn’t his intentions nor his fault is utter denial from you. And the overall rate of abortions is still higher Not in the South. People have to spend more money and spend more time to get an abortion. I’m about to just leave this conversation soon. There's a difference between literal porn They still claimed FL just banned LGBT people. This conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:46 PM
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Did you read my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:42 PM
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Again, what do you mean by 'liberal'? If youre not voting democrat, liberals are gonna not want to date you. Changing my politics not because the other side has better argument Then don’t change if you don’t want to change. Changing my religion not because I genuinely believe Then don’t change if you don’t want to change. It’s like with bigot to end up with kids who either are gay or an interracial relationships, either the bigots choose to change or they accept they’re going to lose access to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:40 PM
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Yeah, that’s why misogynists tend to be anti-feminist and conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:32 PM
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You can act like asshole to some people without being one to others Being an asshole because you didn’t get what you want is not tolerated. That’s what you guys aren’t understanding. Being bitter is an internal emotional If you guys weren’t making it an external problem for others, no one would give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:31 PM
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No, he's got no control over the supreme court So you’re just going to pretend he didn’t pick most of the ones who overturned Roe v. Wade. And culturally, the pro-life crowd is losing at the moment Abortion bans are still implemented in the south. If you’re not going to be honest about the topic, I’m not going to entertain it. A small-l liberal as in a defender of liberty They’re going to think their liberal views are completely fine and should be normalized. When Florida tried to deal with this…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:25 PM
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And these guys are too stupid to understand how stupid their desires are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:37 PM
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The fact that you feel insulted that holding men accountable is something feminist do is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:36 PM
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Listen, if a guy doesn’t understand public services and high taxes, go hand-in-hand, this is not the post for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:36 PM
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you can be bitter without having to be an asshole. You still not being able to describe them says that there’s not actually a difference. Because if there was, you’ll be able to describe those men. But if it's understandable if some people act like assholes to others So they’re not being unfairly criticized for being single. You just don’t like that they’re being called out for being assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:34 PM
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I'm not sure they are necessarily more or less religious than "normal" guys though. No, I said they’re irreligious conservatives. That’s different. I also have a particular VERY FAR LEFT leaning friend on FB who CONSTANTLY posts unhinged shit (all political) who I doubt has had a date in years / forever. Well, do you know if he’s struggling today or that he simply chooses not to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:33 PM
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Could it be that you just consider everyone bigots? Thebirdman actually breaks down why he considers the men he criticizes bigots, but bigots usually don’t like being called out for their bigotry, so I don’t know if this is going to help: https://youtu.be/AuU7ZHIK_ZI?is=CjF4iOBHcq8-AY5U https://youtu.be/-bQo4uH6IoQ?is=p-OY5OP4wKf-WuTl This is an hour of criticizing a guy who outright says racist shit, like things that would actually be the literal definition of racism: https://youtu.be/ypNe1lmfA…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:31 PM
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A person absolutely can be a non-believer and still restrain his sexual behavior …….so basically what I said. A person absolutely can be a non-believer and still restrain his sexual behavior. If you’re not liberal, there will be an assumption you’re just a sexist MAGA. These both seem like lying and using people Because you guys don’t believe in either changing yourself or staying single. A lot of guys really underestimate how fucked up their beliefs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:57 AM
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The anti woke stuff made people REALLY famous at the start of the whole thing And now they’re just bigots who hate minorities. Just see YouTube https://youtube.com/@th3birdman?si=h3TY80zk-heor2-i https://youtu.be/y8wRpMv9PhU?is=3ZmzgvQ5pIhH8SzS https://youtube.com/@josebird?si=Vj5UrhJyt1oXxMzx Theyre growing in popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:54 AM
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I don't necessarily see self-identified right-wing men complain online about being single. Instead they tend complain about the perceived low quality of women a lot So struggling with dating. Why are single leftist men "single by choice" while single right wing men are supposedly all miserable and desperate for women? Being disproportionately LGBT. Unconventional ways of living. Yeah, just said the right wing men only fine with low quality women. So they’re struggling with dating. I'd say leftis…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:51 AM
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Could it just be that THESE women are outliers, as liberal activists? You mean the TYPE of women men pursue matters? The concept that men here dont want to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:47 AM
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Young people are now very embracing of not walking on egg shells out of fear every little thing can offend someone Which resulted in the anti-woke community to now be filled with actual bigots. That’s why there’s now a rise of anti-anti-woke content creators. The age of MAGA is ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:45 AM
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People also look down on bisexual women because they think they just hets looking for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:44 AM
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By that logic there are tons of "conservative" men who are pro women's equality, aren't anti-abortion That doesn’t work when they vote conservative, especially if they support Trump and/or live in the south. Trump is responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade and its mainly the south that banned abortion. Also, as I said before, there are other social and economic policies that conservatives promote that would make “being a hoe hard”. and low taxes That means less money for social programs. keeping…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:43 AM
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But some men just won't compromise their beliefs (whether going to the right or left) for a piece of tail. The problem is they bitch about a problem of their own making. That's probably why leftist men are more likely to be single than right-wing men. Single by choice doesn't count int this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:01 AM
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All I would say is "take extra caution" She got stabbed in public before her back. What caution should she have taken? In his defence, he's talking about taking personal responsibility for your own safety Calling it personal responsibility doesn't make it less victim blaming. You wouldn't walk through a high-risk area if you can avoid it Refer back to Iryna, the Ukrainian that got stabbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:58 AM
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when you ask how it’s even possible for the guy with the “right” beliefs and ”right” politics are still ending up incels. What do you mean go silent? They dont have the "right" beliefs, they just claim they do. If the problem actually isn't their personality or views, it's a combo of alot of things that go beyond looks. Remainder that we have more leftist incels then right wing ones, But do we hear their political views? Because victim blamers will claim they're not misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:14 AM
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ill again point out that the blue pill doesnt work You guys constantly lie about what you were told. What did the blue pill lie about and show me if it's such a popular belief. is beta buxxing. Imagine my shock, you guys dont like having boyfriend traits. Question what are "beta traits"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:12 AM
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In my experience "anti-woke" but otherwise left leaning guys e.g the "dirtbag left" tend to do fine with women. When you guys say that, are you imagine the average guy or attractive douchebags? Are they looking for short term or long term? What type of women are they going after? The actually conservative guys tend to be at least a little religious, even if they don't regularly go to church, Then they would be doing fine with conservative women, but the guys in the video dont want them despite t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:09 AM
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what you don’t seem to understand is that lacking too much in the looks You guys use that as an excuse to not work on yourselves. Most of you dont have pretty privilege and will never have it. even being misogynistic This is what I'm talking about, most of you will never be hot enough to convince women to tolerate misogyny. You guys think being a 5/10 will be enough, but that requires 8/10 looks to pull off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:00 AM
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Bitter = / = asshole You can't even describe the men who struggle that aren't incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:57 AM
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but if you're agreeing with most of the leftist ideas around industrial policy, central planning, progressive taxation, the welfare state, None of that will matter if they're against feminism and social policies. Also, no one really goes into what makes those struggling leftists liberal and if they dont have an issue with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:56 AM
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No one is saying "they're to blame if they get into XYZ situation". No, another guy in this thread does actually believe that and doesn't care if he sounds like predators who excuse their crimes. Instead, they wouldn't take such actions if they genuinely perceived the danger is that high. Victim blaming, especially when you bring up college and moving to a larger city for economic reasons. If I say "I'm terrified of being mugged every night I go for a walk", and yet I still go on a walk every ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:53 AM
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Surveys of self described "incels" show that many of them identify as left leaning (44%) while only 38% identify as right leaning. About half are visible minorities. When I said struggling with dating I wasnt just saying to mean incels. These guys can get SOME success, but not enough to where they're not miserable. Also, how far did the study go into identifying their political beliefs? As I said in the first paragraph, they're most likely "anti-woke". I'm sure being an anti-abortion activist in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:49 AM
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"It's better to be hated because I'm a bitter asshole to others than to just be realistic about my standards". "Why do people hate incels so much?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:47 AM
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My friend was a good guy, I wasnt talk about your friend, dont know who he is, so you're not gonna use him to guilt trip me. Moving on. A rape culture is a culture where rape is condoned and occasionally championed. Wow, suddenly you guys remember females ARE OPPRESSED when I remind you how it makes you look ignorant and privileged to deny it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:45 AM
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You are literally victim blaming men for being treated like pariahs. "It's not fair that you hate on guys for being awful people. It's oppressive that people's bad actions have consequences!" A man who thinks consequences makes him a victim is a man who's never going to be around women who value accountability. You are genuinely clueless about the male experience You dont respect men who explain when men cause their own problems. I am sorry, I guess I am a bigot for calling out a pedophile You d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:31 AM
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Tell me more about our "rape culture," You think nothing bad is going on in the Middle East? Interesting....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:27 AM
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which would actually suggest leftist men are more of incels than far right men, They're leftists in that they're liberals who hate women, so most liberal groups reject them and conservatives use them to be exploited for votes. Hence, you end up with irreligious conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:25 AM
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I want someone I can trust While idealizing hot guys with criminals records. The problem is that most modern women have no morals, When you dont actually value morals, you'll end up being around people with none. That's why it's laughable to claim someone values loyalty when they're obsessed with shallow people. overtly eschew personal accountability, Women who value personal accountability also expect that from, so men who like to blame everything on women aren't going to be around women who va…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:22 AM

Oh, how? Find me where Im bigoted. And I'm gonna its because I'm not tolerant of awful people like victim blamers. Its similar to how conservatives mock liberals for not being open minded but liberals never said they're open minded to the hateful close minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:17 AM
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I am saying that the personality you've demonstrated Most people hate bigots and aren't nice to bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:58 AM
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, because that's such a good idea Yes. As oppose to being bitter that you get nothing because you're being unrealistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:57 AM
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Being hot with a criminal record is enough Instead of simply not being a red flag, you guys envy Jeremy Meeks because he made his red flags not matter. You guys can't accept that Meeks is extremely rare and none of your will ever be that hot. That's the pattern IRL, Right, because you guys want bimbos offline too. That's the pattern IRL, I don't care about fucking as much as loyalty. So you want women overwhelmed with lust and think with their vaginas. So horny slutty bimbos.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:56 AM
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Hey Ms. Personality, This post is about religion and wanting a relationship. The fact you're trying implying using Personality as an insult is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:52 AM
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I read it, Copy and paste what I wrote, because you guys claim that show you didn't read. So humor me, what "qualifies" as realistic to you? See. Didn't read my post. In fact, attempt to summarize the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:50 AM
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"have low standards Thats part of being realistic. Imagine my shock, the guys who whine about women being picky are also picky as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:49 AM
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Everyone who uses a dating app is being superficial, Projection. That's why men dont do well on a=dating apps. They want to rely on looks and nothing else. women don't even think when they swipe 😂 That's the patten in this sub, guys wanting stupid fickle horny women. Bimbos.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:47 AM
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Where did I said that? When did that ever become a talking point? If you're just gonna lie, then there is not reason to continue interacting with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:46 AM
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Realistic in relation to what? What I have said in my post. I made a whole post about the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:45 AM
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I would argue that they’re non-religious conservatives because they already possess temperaments that make them unsuitable for relationships in the first place. Honestly... from what I have seen in real life that might be true. And with feminism being about holding men accountable, men who dont want to be held accountable clearly dont like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:44 AM
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The first thing you see on a dating profile is the picture so. Okay? That didn't change a thing I said. So you're trying to appeal to superficial women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:41 AM
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I’m a democrat and anti woke so I think it’s wrong to say is given a conservative When it comes to young people, they're not gonna stop being woke any time soon. They might not be as insane as they use to be, but they're not going back to being 90s democrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:40 AM
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I agree: if it seems like a stupid person would do some thing, then it would be a smart thing to not do that thing. Exactly. It's not hard. Boy: What do I do about not being burnt by a hot stove?>! Adults with normal IQ: Dont put your hand on the hot stove.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:44 PM
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Looks > everything else. When you have nothing else to offer. And the left at same time complains that strong, fit, tall masculine men are conservative. I want an example of this happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:42 PM
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MAGA bros are not trying to get with liberal women. Some are, as I have shown and been saying. I can totally believe 15% of young men aren't doing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:42 PM
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Or, they’re in an area with more conservative women to choose from Conservative women live in urban areas too. They still gonna be religious and expect commitment. The guys in the video didn't say they can't find conservative women. THEY DONT WANT conservative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:40 PM

So… what do you want guys to do about it? Be realistic and stop being stupid. Do you think being an irreligious liberal will do anything? Most irreligious people are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:59 PM
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And they're most likely religious and serious about commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:58 PM
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See how you didn't address what I said. I'm playing this game with you guys. If you feel that uncomfortable about men being held accountable, THAT'S ON YOU. I can hold women accountable just fine without playing these dumbass games,.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:33 PM
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How much of female erotic consumption is of the CNC violent variety? I think JustGeminiThings will be left to argue with you because I dont think I'll take this seriously. From what I have seen it is statistically significant, if not the majority of female fantasies. That has nothing to do with the conversation and it's just an excuse to victim blame. Guys, stop complaining about misandry and then give those bigots a reason to feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:31 PM
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A lot of young woman are lefty pseudo commies because its popular rn. Right now? Remember hippies? If you even talk to them for 5 min about politics it becomes clear its mostly asthetics to please their other friends who also virtue signal. These guys clearly aren't going after those types of women if they're struggling. Hardcore leftists and hardcore conservatives are both different sides of the same coin imo I dont think these guys are hardcore at all. I think they simply dont like Wokeism, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:27 PM
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I'm also talking about how bisexual females aren't taken seriously and are just considered het females with special snowflake syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:26 PM
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It took a while for me to learn that what women say they want, and what they actually want/reward are completely different things No. You guys like women who are fickle. This is a common pattern. You guys like women who are easy and dont have conviction in anything. Basically bimbos. I have never felt bad for a woman in my entire life that I wasn't related to/friends with/fucking Women with conviction typically dont want guys who think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:24 PM
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You guys love to pretend to be oppressed and victimized, I'm not playing your games. Take accountability for how you speak and treat people. If you go around being a bigot, it's no wonder you'll end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:10 PM
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"Neets are hated for no reason" Me: NEETs like shows that involve children. "I have better things to do than argue....."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:08 PM
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Fucking men apparently makes you lose value Women think this way too about men. However there are alot of concerns but they do come from stereotypes, like STDs and cheating, despite straight men being capable of this like bi men. says a lot more about how society sees men as corrupting or something. Absolutely. Society see men as villains, including the men who hate that stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:06 PM
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Men who are looking for sex will go after what’s easier, if liberal women are easier then men, regardless of political affiliation, will go after them. Which makes them being conservative extremely dumb. For long term relationships and marriages I think political affiliation could matter, The problem is alot of guys want to start with sex as soon as possible. Conservative women aren't doing that. Even the ones that are will expect him to go to church.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:04 PM
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No, it's biphobia. It's not just straight people who look down upon bisexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:47 PM
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No. Biphobia is a thing because people dont respect people who get fucked by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:47 PM
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NEETs are hated a lot by normies I gave you two examples as for why, but of course you're gonna ignore that. Can't acknowledge when people actually have a decent argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:43 PM
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does this man treat me as well and my female friends. That's a problem because these guys will swear they treat people well or that other people caused them to behave poorly. For example guys here dont see a problem with how this man behaved towards this woman. https://www.tiktok.com/@user140024777/video/7444655474001054998?lang=en But because the woman isn't cisgender, they think being rude towards her is justified because the producers "disrespected the guy" for putting her on the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:43 PM
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Refering to men who struggle with dating You dont even know any non-incels who are struggling with dating. That's why you cant tell me anything about them. America labeled incels a threat and have, presumably, a pedo and a rapist as a president. So because leaders are corrupt, since the dawn of time, society should allow MORE men to be threats to society? See, when "struggling men" have mindsets like that, it's no wonder they're told they're scum of the Earth and that's why they struggle. BTW, A…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:33 PM
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What's wrong with WHAT?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:30 PM
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Even just trying to survive is selfish. ............................ You REALLY dont like to acknowledge being selfish a personal problem. So rather then pointing fingers and blaming people for being selfish... so being like everyone else, like you. See. That's why you have to believe everyone is selfish. You are doing all these mental gymnastics to avoid facing the horrible truth You're calling people selfish for wanting to survive. Even my country's justice system is more lenient on lawbreaker…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:29 PM
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I hope this is a joke, because NEETs like anime like Jobless Reincarnation and Gushing Over Magical Girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:26 PM
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The whole "Conservative men trying to get with liberal women" thing happens because these men aren't religious and committal like conservative women are. In my opinion it's because the particular liberal women they want aren't super big on relationships and they're more sexual that conservative women are. They love women who are socially liberal, but can't handle they're politically liberal too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:05 PM
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You desire a status in society, I'm gonna assume you're just saying a fancy way of "No one wants to be a pariah", which isn't selfish. You also do stuff out of empathy which makes you feel bad for people which are suffering. That's not selfish, that's actually the opposite. You trying to justify being selfish while claiming you're noble is just not going to work. People can feel bad and not do anything, but obviously you're gonna define doing something and not doing something as both selfish so …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:56 PM
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"Nerdy" spaces tend to be much more male and more introverted too. So? Hookups are also more male oriented. Doesnt stop men from pursuing it. Being too agreeable is definitely something that counts against men See. You think being agreeable is a bad. A man can be friendly and supportive of his friends, family, and allies You wouldn't have a problem with being agreeable if you honestly believe that. You guys have such a bad reaction to being agreeable that it's you fucking hate the idea of being …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:51 PM
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Is that your counterargument? That's fine. Most men dont want to be the type of person agreeing with sex offenders, so there's nothing much to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:46 PM
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It's not uneducated Not knowing that crime happens everywhere and that most crime is usually concentrated in the slums shows a lack of education. As well as not understanding the important of COLLEGE. and no one cares if it is victim blaming. Is that supposed to be an argument or disprove anything I just said? Projection. People have lost their careers over victim blaming. One that comes to mind is Ceelo Green. I've already stated that victim blaming has a place. Tate brothers, Cosby, Diddy, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:45 PM
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Everyone is selfish. Projection. Feel free to delude yourself that you are not.Feel free to delude yourself that you are not. Imagine my shock, you had nothing to say to my direct response to you because I implied I stopped being a selfish child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:01 PM
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My original comment is about childhood abuse So why are you talking about women? Also, so you can talk about your childhood abuse, but you never once considered childhood abuse plays a role in women staying with abusers, even though that's one of the most documented reasons why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:58 PM
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Listen, you clearly dont have the cognitive empathy You agreed with a guy that outright victim blamed and you complimented what he wrote to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:57 PM
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they talk about normal topics So you have no idea if they're actually struggling. Because if they're not talking about their struggles, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THEY'RE STRUGGLING? You just dont like that people are calling out incels for being the terrible people they are and then pretend America isn't a big deal because they also have labelled incels a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:55 PM
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The Tate brothers weren't famous for their sense of entitlement. They told entitled men what they wanted to hear. Anyways, CSA is NOT a solution to inceldom and a guy who would bring up such a solution unprompted, just because a woman said men cant be incels if they're choosing not to have sex, is not someone to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:53 PM
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EVERY ARGUMENT YOURE MAKING HAS BEEN VICTIM BLAMING ME So now you think you’re the victim. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:02 PM
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Incels don't represent the whole population of struggling men as a whole How about you stop trying to divert the conversation let’s get back to this. You can’t even tell me what non-incel struggling men talk about. You don’t know because you have never talked to them. You’re just upset people call out incels for the terrible people they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:01 PM
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and doing anything whatsoever other than VICTIM BLAMING VICTIMS like fucking me. Because you keep showing you don’t actually want to understand abuse victims. You just like it when victim blamers agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:59 PM
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You keep mentioning research, WHAT RESEARCH????? I literally answered your question and you ignored it. You never was a curious person confused why women stay with abusers, as you have revealed in another reply, you agree with victim blamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:55 PM
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People who are selfish can’t fathom people who aren’t selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:49 PM
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That's the thing, they likely don't complain about dating So you don’t know if they’re lonely or not. They could be fine not dating. IFS found that 50% of single/sexless guys choose to be that way. Not everyone has the time to be 12 hours a day What does that have to do with the fact that you keep insisting people on hate on lonely guys for no reason, but you can’t even explain what lonely guys who aren’t incels do. You clearly don’t know them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:45 PM
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Furthermore, the resources and support available for women to leave these kinds relationships is outstanding - and yet so many stay. You’re agreeing with the guy who said that. the only answer I usually hear to this question is “YOU’RE A PIECE OF SHIT” You get those answers because you don’t do your own research and you agree with guys who victim blame. Most guys aren’t abusers and most guys aren’t misogynistic victim blamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:42 PM
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Thank you for a thoughtful and substantive response So when you say substantive, you mean what people agree with you. I don’t know many people who want to be around a person who thinks like that. the only answer I usually hear to this question is “YOU’RE A PIECE OF SHIT Imagine my shock, misogyny and victim blaming getting negative responses from people. I’ve never abused a woman That doesn’t excuse misogyny and victim blaming. you seem to want people to congratulate you and reward you for not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:38 PM
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It's doesn't disprove You didn’t say no to my questions nor did you explain what they’re complaining about. So they are sounding just like incels. If generalized pre assumption that if men struggle with dating it's because they are assholes You given me nothing to show that they are different from incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:31 PM
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I never experienced men idolise bad boys in real life See how quickly you changed your argument? Elliott Rogers made national news. You just choose to be ignorant on these types of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:29 PM
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That’s the problem. In their minds, the bar for being considered good is low and the bar for being considered bad is high. They’re upset because it’s the opposite in most people’s minds. That’s actually why nice guys are so angry. They want women who date assholes to look at them like saviors. Because women with higher personality standards don’t want them because they’re literally not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:27 PM
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asking a question is not victim blaming. You being unable to answer it Trauma, blackmail, and fear. All the things you could’ve learned if you actually cared to do research. But you don’t. I would talk more about your problems, but you don’t come off as somebody who needs to be set off, and that should tell you how people most likely perceive you in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:24 PM
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Youve been unwilling to have a civil substantive conversation You still didn’t respond to the things I said. Hypocrisy, ad hominem, and projection arent going to work on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:23 PM
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This is the problem. Assholes think they’re not assholes just because they’re not committing felonies. A man’s sense of entitlement wouldn’t get called out if they weren’t acting on. Elliott Rogers entitlement started before he committed the crime. It started with him thinking the world is unfair for not giving him a hot, blonde sorority girl and resenting society for not giving him what he wants. If he still respects you even after you turn him down, then he's not acting entitled. Men in this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:19 PM
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Victim blaming is not always a bad thing Epstein, Diddy, and Tate definitely agree. People need to be proactive about their own safety and security Epstein, Tate, and Diddy agree. They should be reminded of that if they seem to have never learned it Cosby agrees, Epstein agrees, the Tate brothers agree, and Diddy agrees wouldn't defend someone walking in the hood Robbers agree 100%. That is peak delusion Felons agree 100% that their victims are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:13 PM
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I'm 40 years old, never saw men idolise bad boys The reason why is that you go out your way to not look at it even when it became a big problem. Yes I actively chose to not let loud minority form my opinions about the whole gender. What does that have to do with what you said previously?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:34 PM
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Theyre not gonna tell you the truth. They’ll just claim thats all women. Its because those women are hot and/or very sexual. Also, these women have low personality standards, so they want a woman to praise them for being better than the bums, felons, drug users, drug dealers, and woman beaters she’s dated in the pastx
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:32 PM
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They understand that bad boys because did the exact opposite of what women said they wanted in men and got way better results Because those guys want women who are fake fickle and hot. what these guys want are bimbos, but they don’t want to admit that because it makes them rightfully look stupid and low class. For some, this pushes them to become assholes. So they weren’t good people whatsoever, they just wanted easy pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:18 PM
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Just because a woman raised them until legal age they feel entitled to more women sacrificing themselves for their existence. Thats the only way i would put all of men’s dating problems. Yes, I do think it’s because of coddling and Mommy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:16 PM
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Willfully ignorant, obsessed with preconceived notions and generalizations, unwilling to engage in any substance whatsoever You victim blame victims of abuse, including your own mother. When I explained why I claim youre victim blaming, you refuse to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:09 PM
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How many nice things you do because they feel nice? Rarely, but I grew out of that because I’m an adult. Everyone is selfish. Projection. I'm simply in a club of selfish people which make better company. See. Projection. That’s what I’m talking about in this post. Guys who are assholes but think they deserve some sort of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:08 PM
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“The research is out there” Okay, then SHARE IT, So you didn’t even try to do the research yourself. You didn’t even try to simply google why abuse victims stay. You didn’t even try to look up the correlation between child abuse, trauma, and getting into abusive relationship relationships. That is the kind of intellectual laziness I am talking about. It’s just intellectual laziness, excusing and justifying misogynist. “the research is out there” WHAT research?? More proof did any even try to loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:46 PM
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You’re not understanding my issue I think that everyone is selfish, most people simply rationalise their selfish decisions as moral ones That’s just projection. I don't, I realised that I am playing the noble role out of selfish reasons Then you’re not Noble.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:28 PM
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It's more that they don't find the answer. They probably go searching for it, or they ask a question in a place like here, and get told a bunch of nonsense - a lot from guys with a similar mindset. Exactly, they want to hear what they want to hear. They believe nonsense and they want to hear nonsense. The whole nice guy topic isn’t something only the manosphere talks about. Especially after Elliot Rogers murdered people, it has been even more discussed in the public eye. But like Elliott Rogers,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:13 PM
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You think you’re arguing against me, but you’re actually proving my point. A lot of guys want to be assholes, they simply don’t like the consequences of it. They’re upset that some guys don’t deal with the consequences as severely as they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:48 PM
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They don't understand the deeper reasons behind why women are attracted to "bad boys" They choose not to understand, and they choose to waste their time, focusing on this. they literally think women choose those guys because they treat women like shit, which seems insane to them. So they’re misogynists. They don’t hate assholes, they’re just as bad as he is. They just tricked themselves into believing they’re the good guys. because they've never been in a situation where a woman is that strongly…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:27 PM
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Who gives a fuck if they idolise that Eliot guy. You proved my point. You don’t know much about this topic because you choose to be ignorant on this topic. They are a bunch of people to lazy and cowardly to do something about being single Even when they try to do something about it, they still end up with anyone wanting to put up with their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:18 PM
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I assure you that I can be a bad boy, not only that, I can be a horrible ruthless person. And if I was to be idolised for that... well why wouldn't I? The thing is that I would be idolised by trashy men, and trasy women. I'd be the king of the trash heap. But decent people would look at me with contempt. And I rather be in the company of decent people with access to decent women. So you’re not an awful person because you simply don’t like the consequences of it. You think that makes you unique? …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:16 PM
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It seems like you have this idea that people are not acting as bad boys because they can't They dont give people a reason to put up their awfulness. That’s how we end up like incels. That’s how we end up with awful men like Elliott Rogers. But decent people would look at me with contempt. Most people look at incels with contempt. Incels just use that as an excuse to feel like victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:07 PM
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And yes, as a man I frankly do wonder why a woman would get herself into such a fucked up situation as enabling severe abuse of herself or her children The research is out there, but you don’t actually want to know the answer. You want to victim blame. Obviously I’m not excusing men, unstable men are fucking horrible, but for it to be so insanely common in patriarchal america for women to end up in these abuser / doormat dynamics, If you actually cared about the answer, you would actually do the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:57 AM
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There's often some seed of truth in the topics you post but you consistently interpret men's dating issues in the least generous way you can. That’s what happens when men want to be sad misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:48 AM
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You can do everything that women say they want and get literally no where with no real interest If this is a reoccurring problem, it’s about men thinking they’re doing what women want, but they’re really not. Another problem is body language. A lot of guys can’t hide the fact that they don’t actually want to do what women want them to do. So then women just give up on them because the bitterness is so obvious. It is disheartening to feel like ive been lied to, that i have spent my entire life tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:36 AM
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To reiterate, assholes who do well with women are not rare. There’s plenty of assholes that don’t. You guys just don’t care to acknowledge them. Because you guys idolize the ones who are doing well with women. Incels are a massive example of assholes not doing well with women. There’s such assholes multiple governments see them as a societal threat. They don't need to be rich or goodlooking celebrities. Not only do you choose not to acknowledge the assholes who aren’t doing well with women, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:32 AM
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Sex is a reward outside of committed relationships So one of the many reasons women don’t engage in hook up culture like men do. your ilk are the ones rewarding shit behavior Misogynistic belief mixed in with a lack of accountability. You guys will pursue the women you want regardless of how uncommon they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:29 AM
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Did you just bring up how women reward guys with sex? Plenty of women have explained how that’s misogynistic to believe, but it’s not like you’re going to listen anyway. I can do absolutely horrible things, I simply CHOSE not to Because you guys keep repeating the same bad arguments, like how sex is a reward to men, and how you guys aren’t going to listen to how misogynistic that belief actually is, showing you guys are terrible people too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:25 AM
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OP seems to think that all men can't be bad boys because... there is some invisible force preventing us from being like that. Weird that you’re arguing with the strawman you came in with, but you know have fun. I can do absolutely horrible things, I simply CHOSE not to There’s people who choose not to because it’s bad and there’s people who choose not to because they don’t like the consequences. Anyways, I don’t feel like getting in between the argument you’re having with the strawman, so there’…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:25 AM
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I’m speaking as an American: SA happens everywhere, even in places that are considered peaceful in comparison to others. If someone’s trying to get a high paying job, college is a necessity. The most common and easiest way for adults to make friends is through college. The danger in a city is more based on how big and dangerous their ghettos are. Technically, my city is dangerous because its large enough to have five different ghettos. So calling people dishonest and manipulative over those fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:23 AM
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It's not that they want to be asshole, women claim they don't like assholes Most of them dont. Why are you guys always around the ones that do? Sounds like guys want to be around women with low personality standards. it's women that give the impression that they choose based on moral character all the time Why are you guys always around fake women? Yeah, alot of women are fake and fickle. Seems weird guys never seem to be around women who are genuine. Based on the priorities, this sub has, I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:13 AM
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I disagree on the reason because when you see them talk about assholes, they talk about how being an asshole helps guys. They clearly think being an asshole is a sign of masculinity and dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:06 AM
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Most* not just (in your bullshit subjective opinion) "shallow dumb" ones. Guys here are simply bad judges of character. If a guy shows obvious signs of being a bad person, and she still chooses to be around him, she’s dumb and shallow. It’s just you guys don’t like to admit the women you’re around are low quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:05 AM
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I think if you press most women enough, they will admit that there is a certain je na sais qoui when it comes to a guy with a temper, some kind of narcissism and/or potential sadism, and/or a physically aggressive frame. I just scrolled down, and a guy just said this. This is the kind of behavior I’m talking about and what other women are also talking about. Guys here don’t give two fucks about the abuse. They want to victim blame and idolize abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:03 AM
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I just explained how they do it and it’s been a popular topic of discussion. At this point, that’s willful ignorance. Especially after guys like Elliot Rodgers got into the news.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:02 AM
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You're claiming something that OP is not stating So? That didnt change what I said. Nowhere did he state its about 'I don't get women. Did I say that? No, youre making an argument I never claim. Guys, please stop with the hypocrisy. It’s getting really annoying. internalizing the resulting pain and then blaming on the entire group. To me, women have a blind-spot for this Thanks for proving my point about the victim blaming. I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:01 AM
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Incels don't represent the whole population of struggling men as a whole Depends, are those struggling men sounding just like the incels? Making the same complaints? What complaints are these other struggling men making? You don't need to know people to point out certain behaviors that contradict assumptions And from the whole "Society lied to me" complaints, it came from guys intentionally misunderstanding what they were told by others. Also, what's an asshole anyways? What's your definition? L…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:23 AM
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Saying I'm "Victim blaming" has no bearing on the truth values of my claims and smacks of ad hominem "You see women migrate to dangerous cities from less dangerous cities for work", you're blaming women for putting themselves in danger. It's not ad hominem to criticize your argument. Please properly use that word. Yes, Radfems are more internally consistent, Like using examples of what men say and do to fuel their bigotry, like seeing men say "You see women migrate to dangerous cities from less …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:20 AM
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They see women they care about go after the most obviously bad men People who care about women are more concerned about THE ABUSE. Not "It's not fair I DONT GET WOMEN but abusers do!" and then victim blame abuse victims. And then they see these women they care about talk about how much men suck. Alot of the "good guys" do actually suck. Most of them dont even attempt to understand how abuse work and how it heavily correlated with childhood abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:13 AM
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The vast, vast majority of Women do not behave at all consistent with these beliefs: You see women migrate to dangerous cities from less dangerous cities for work (readily evident, but also see: 8) Imagine thinking you're gonna win an argument by victim blaming. -You see Women having sons, who, by the standards of survey answers and comments on social media like here, have a likelihood of being incomprehensibly evil. Guys going around victim blaming women isn't really proving those women wrong. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:07 AM
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.it's because those women aren't picking us. So stop the lying. It's not because women are evil and unfair. It's simply that shallow dumb women who have low personality standards aren't picking those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:01 AM
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it is like you cherry pick I didn't tell him to only focus on looks, he did. and there is 0 substance to back any of it up. I copy and pasted multiple paragraphs and he was solely focused on looks. That says alot about men's mindset, because this is a constant pattern of lack of substance. far MORE women have an easier Because you guys choose to make things harder, such as being picky and not listening to people when they tell you the problem, such as being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:59 AM
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If this is the attitude you bring to the table, Well, I dont tolerate bigotry, so they dont really end up in my dating pool for long. The above is true, but do you actually see how you come off? My friends love it when I dont tolerate bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:57 AM
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Many assholes hit it off well with women without being rich or even goodlooking Those women are no better than he is, but you guys dont pay enough attention to women to see that. They are not rare Imagine thinking someone of Chris Brown's talent and wealth aren't rare. The fuck?! I don't fantasize about being an asshole "Being an asshole can even help since it conveys assertiveness" that sentence says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:55 AM
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We're not? "Nice Guys Finish Last" Chad "No man wants to take care of Chad Jr" Misogynists victim blaming abuse victims. "Morals and personality doesn't matter at all! Women lied!" "All the good guys try hard to be good!" and something something about bad boys being "rewarded" with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:52 AM
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They dont represent anything Then why do other men keep using them as representations? One of the video was actually sent to me by a guy here and many other guys agreed with the video. If you cant make a point and engage I do. You guys just dont like I find examples of men fucking up the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:48 AM
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But most women fuck guys who aren't them. So why be obsessed with the evil meany bad boy felons?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:44 AM
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It really comes to down to consistency. Withhold always or not Women need to never date men who are insecure because those men are manchildren who are stuck acting like 10 year olds. but dont expect to withhold from one youre interested in Love this. "Men can just lie", "Men aren't concerned about situationships like women are" and as soon as women dont play those dumb games, men get an attitude. Men who are actually wanting a relationship dont have these issues. Men just looking to get their di…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:40 AM
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You guys are obsessed with looks and that's the problem. You guys are simply a bad option. Why would a woman want a guy that's shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:54 PM
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Most guys can't afford to be that shallow. You guys gotta stop relying on your pictures if you're not a 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:36 PM
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The way she describe Alexander's profile was boring as hell. Thinking someone's occupation makes them interesting is very telling. That's the problem. You guys lack substance. Most of you can't afford to be that shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:33 PM
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prudish cultures are going to tend to push a subset of men towards being deceptive about their intent; They were already doing that. That's why women advise women to be prudes. Alot of guys act like assholes when it comes to sex, so sleeping with them generally isn't worth it unless relationship is involved. some women want the lightness and freedom of a situationship Most dont. Just like most women dont orgasm during casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:25 PM
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Study on what? Guys here, redpillers, incels, etc always act like they only know assholes with girlfriends. So now that I showed how bad that looks, now you're in denial? Like I mentioned how there was an overlap being guys who struggle and being assholes thanks to how incels behave?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:22 PM
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Do they exist in enough numbers to make broad generalizations? That's the pattern every time women talk to them. They seem to only know women who want assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:37 PM
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What a statement to offer no substantiation for. You can talk to guys here how sex makes them feel wanted. They're using sex for validation, not because they want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:36 PM

No it’s not that women don’t want you it’s that women in America and the west are not worth it at all. The average guy doesn't think like that at all, so you weren't talking about the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:33 PM
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Sleeping together won't in itself cause long-term compatibility whether it happens after the first date or only after the first year, but a woman who decides her strategy is "'withholding sex'" is more likely to lose my interest; Congratulations on contradicting yourself. that's more like playing games than letting things develop naturally. I love that you are chill about situationships and lying to women until women say "I wont fuck men who dont show he wants a relationship with me".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:20 PM
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They themselves dont think personality is important. That's why they're only around women who want assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:18 PM
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Thinking no one takes the USA seriously is very telling. No one takes a world superpower seriously. I think I rest my case. This is just proof of wanting to be in denial. Also, half those countries are in the G7 and Japan also has an incel problem when it comes to SA, stalking, and liking creepy anime shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:15 PM
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Nope, just world fallacy is implying that dating is moral I said: Why should people tolerate you being an asshole to them. So morals now means incentives? It it's still the most important factor for most people, It is the most important factor. Most of you aren't exceptional enough for to attract shallow women .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:13 PM
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What is this circular logic btw? So now Just World Fallacy is asking "Why should people tolerate you being an asshole to them". And circular logic is "Personality is important in dating. Most of you aren't exceptional enough to be exceptions"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:06 PM
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Incels don't represent men who struggle with dating as a whole, See how quickly you changed the conversation because you're now forced to acknowledge the overlap? What countries declared incels as a threat? USA, Canada, UK, France, Netherlands, and New Zealand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:04 PM
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Being an actual asshole doesn't hurt men's dating success It does. You guys keep bringing up exceptions without being exceptional yourselves. Most guys are talented like Chris Brown.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:55 PM
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"if you struggle with dating it's because you are an asshole" You just proved that's what you want to believe. You ignored everything I wrote. Which is why many of these men bring successful assholes as a counter argument. But most guys have none of those traits. You guys want to be exceptions without being exceptional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:54 PM
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[Citation needed] Incel forums that talk about violent crimes in a positive way. There's a reason r/Incels is gone and most social media are intolerant of incel content. Also, multiple countries declaring inceldom a societal threat because their forums typically have violent ideologies that became real life tragedies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:51 PM
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It doesn't. It's just they never asked themselves: What reason do I give people to tolerate me being an asshole to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:49 PM
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Yes, just world fallacy is very common among people, Is that what we're calling "Give people a reason to put up with your bullshit"? Because I'm certain you guys dont have that answer. It's true but also irrelevant in this context Give people a reason to put up with your bullshit. know dating and attraction are amoral and not a meritocracy. Let's be honest now. You guys want to treat people like shit, but you give no reasons for people to tolerate that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:46 PM
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Men who only want something short term or more physical have an incentive to lie Easy solution. It's called "Withholding sex". That's why guys here get upset about it. Because women who are serious about wanting a relationship will.....pursue a relationship!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:39 PM
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women have infinite options I did a post on this. Let me copy and paste it here. Now onto the second video where A WOMAN understands the plight of men! She uses the interviewer’s pictures for Tinder to see what happens! https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw?is=gQNlhdd_6W1hDTKQ Day 1 - 5 matches, 1 was hot, 1 was lazy. Day 2 - 28 matches….proceeds to bitch about how ugly they are. Imagine my shock, men aren’t getting zero matches, they just don’t like what they’re getting. So they’re basically complaining…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:34 PM

Women aren't the ones claiming they're not picky, men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:31 PM
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If the general assumption is that the reason of men who struggle on dating it's because they are assholes Most men dont give people a reason to put up with a bad personality. Also, you guys intentionally misunderstand how people get to that conclusion. It's because there's a massive overlap between men who struggle with women and misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:30 PM
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a counter argument to the general assumption that if a man struggles with dating it's because they are assholes, That's true. Most guys dont give people a reason to put up with them being assholes. dating and attraction being moralized so to speak. Most of you dont have pretty privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:28 PM
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It's not about being an asshole; it's about being confident and assertive. One guy just said he thinks being an asshole helps men be assertive. They want to be assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:27 PM
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Guys here keep wanting to be exceptions when you're not exceptional. That why I keep saying "What are you offering shallow people to put up with your shit behavior?" and I dont get an answer. For example: Chris Brown is rich and talented. Are you rich and talented like Chris Brown? Because hot, rich or charismatic Most men are none of those things. That's what you guys aren't understanding. Being an asshole can even help since it conveys assertiveness This is what I'm talking about. You guys fan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:25 PM
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It is. You guys keep wanting to be exceptions when you're not exceptional. That why I keep saying "What are you offering shallow people to put up with your shit behavior?" and I dont get an answer. For example: Chris Brown is rich and talented. Are you rich and talented like Chris Brown?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:23 PM
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wishing women liked awkward guys They do. The akward guys still have to be decent people and not neckbeards. You seem to think awkward guys can't be predatory and violent. Have you not looked into serial killers and rapists? To Catch A Predator is filled with awkward guys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:21 PM
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What they resent is being talked down to and told they aren't successful bc they are misogynists or assholes No one‘s being constantly called a sexist asshole when they’re not being a sexist asshole. I just talked to a guy saying that women want to be abused and are attracted to abusers. Now can we agree that a sexist asshole? when they observe misogynists and assholes succeeding regularly also Because theyre unattractive broke assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:27 PM
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I think even as a lib dude tho that woman are going to far left to the point of alienating themselves to some extent. There was 10% more young women who voted for Kamala, and there was 10% more percent of young men who voted for Trump. This gender divide is exaggerated. The “man hate” normalization has been evidence something is wrong. Yeah, it’s 2026. At least in my country of America, we know bigotry is wrong. I think in a lot of “woman spaces” narcisstic woman take over and regular woman have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:25 PM
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It’s so obvious that men’s issues with assholes successfully dating is they wish they themselves could be assholes successful at dating.. Because they never look at guys who are decent people who are also a successful at dating. It’s just the assholes they’re hyper focusing on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:16 PM
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which is a legitimate concern, but it may also mean you're setting your sights on men who see you as an option but not the one who sparks something deep within themselves And online dating does away with that problem because I’m looking for a relationship and I’m gonna look at men who are also looking for a relationship. Just like the list that they’re wanting kids in the future just like I’m looking for kids in the future. Online dating only has convenience going for it You guys are really igno…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:15 PM
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In reality, most men just want 1 woman to marry. Most men dont envy abusers. Misogynists envy abusers,
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:45 PM
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I said theyre the role models you have to follow. You want to follow them. I even explained to you that Chris Brown is talented, but he never will rise to the level of fame and likablw he used to, but you don’t want to listen because you like the fact that Chris Brown is still popular despite being abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:34 PM
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Nope, I find them gross No, you don’t, because you admitted you find them to be role models.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:27 PM
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Because they’re terrible people. They want to go back to the good old days where men were basically allowed to do terrible things to women. But thanks to feminism, most men aren’t successful like they used to be. So now they’re upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:26 PM
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Bigots always think people who called them out are insufferable, because most westerners, especially Americans, have little tolerance for that type of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:25 PM
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People with victim complexes don’t like being called out, so that’s no surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:23 PM
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If women want abusers then they’re the role model to follow He just admitted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:21 PM
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If women want abusers The women YOU GUYS want. It simply they don’t want you. then they’re the role model to follow Thank you for admitting that that’s what this is all about. You guys find abusers to be admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:20 PM
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How is saying that "Baby boys and baby girls should have equal legal protection of their genital integrity" Are you gonna bring up that fathers, male doctors, and male clergymen are very okay with male circumcision? Of course you wont. You’ll just complain about people being concerned about FGM. Men die sooner, retire later, are given less empathy, get longer sentences for the same crimes, lower grades for the same work Oh, you actually mean male accountability is something you dont like. You’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:10 PM
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This is about guys who have the fantasy of victimizing others and upset they don’t get the opportunity to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:03 PM
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If women who pick abusers are low quality, and almost all women have dated an abuser Men who don’t admire abusers don’t talk like this. You guys keep showing that you’re terrible people too, you’re just mad you’re not successful like other terrible guys are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:02 PM
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The women I wanted almost all picked abusers and ended up as single moms. You guys like low quality women. That’s your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:57 PM
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If most men and women alike who use the online dating apps end up with predominantly negative experiences If they were doing well without online dating, they wouldn’t be using online dating. So the problem is clearly then. If most men and women alike who use the online dating apps end up with predominantly negative experiences ……………………….. I think ending up in a "situationship" is more a worry for women although some women prefer them, too. Notice how you completely ignore that massive problem wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:55 PM
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Sounds like being an abuser isn’t a turn off for women. Not for the ones you want. Like I said, you guys make it abundantly clear you want women who don’t mind that you’re abusive assholes to her. The problem is those women wouldn’t give you the chance ever. Ain’t no way you called Tate talented They’re able to scam a bunch of misogynists out of their money. That does take some talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:50 PM
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Chris Brown still has millions of women showing up his concerts How many of you are talented like he is? He still went to jail and he’s going to jail again. All of these guys have had more success than me Because theyre talented. The fact that you’re more focused on them being abusive and not the fact that they’re talented says a lot about the fact that you guys admire abusers. Is that you guys are angry? You can’t do it without completely ruining your lives and chances with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:47 PM
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I care a lot You cant even name any and you want on to talk about women. None of you actually care. Plus, since men are still expected to be providers Feminists have talked avout addressing toxic masculinity, but guys who whine also whine about “feminists saying being a man is bad”. They don’t want male expectations to go away, typically because they don’t like the new ones that will be put in its place, like being emotionally competent. since saying something controversial could destroy our rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:45 PM
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Women are taught that it is brave and socially progressive to fight for their issues Notice how you pivot to talk about women and not how little men are doing. That’s why male issues will never be addressed. Even you don’t care about male issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:40 PM
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Only losers would look at felons and say theyre thriving. Chris Brown’s career never truly recovered after beating up Rihanna, Jonathan Majors is black listed from Hollywood, OJ Simpson lived the rest of his life as a pariah. The Tate Brothers got investigated by multiple countries and are now being forced to go to the UK to be on trial. Only an idiot would look at that and be jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:38 PM
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So when even guys say guys are the problem? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAUX7pRF/ I mean, this guy isnt even coventionally attractive and think men should take accountability more: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAUXuuuH/ I simply see that there are disprivileges and oppressions that men suffer that society doesn't acknowledge Like what? Because I can most likely explain how little men care about those issues. Men have been told for more than 50 years how hard it is to be a woman Because women were act…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:36 PM
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Here’s the pattern I’ve seen from the “Women dont know how hard it is to be a man” crowd: Simply unlikable. They’re more right wing (anti-feminist) but they don’t have the qualities right wing women would want (commitment and religiousness). Manchild. Like having the emotional maturity of a toddler and the critical thinking skills of an 11 year old. They want people to worship them, but because there’s no reason to, they end up with nothing. Its “hard to be a man” because theyre not praised for …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:23 PM
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Many of us do want to be moral people, but also experience how women often care less about men being morally good than about being attractive, which takes a toll on our mental health Men who are actually morally good can find morally good women. Many fail at continuing being moral Men who are only moral for pussy were never moral to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:10 PM
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I think that Feminists actually respect men more than ‘pick me tradwives’ do Some men don’t want respect, they want dominance. Feminists demand more from you because they know their partner is capable of more They don’t want to do more. They want emotional intelligence A lot of men don’t want that. Feminism is actually the one wanting to share the weight of the world with you They don’t want equality, they want to be catered to. When they bring up male issues, they want you to pity them and vali…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:24 PM
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Says a woman lol If this is the type of attitude a guy brings on their dates, it’s no wonder they’re not doing well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:55 PM
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You guys clearly dont want to be moral people, so are you making people money? Otherwise, why would they put up with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:54 PM
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Which means money was more important for them than personality Are you making people money?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:27 PM
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They dont want help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:15 PM

Ignoring creeps in real life, doesn’t always work either. They can harass you and try to hump you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:59 PM

It doesn’t take a lot to scroll through people. It also shows you guys aren’t that desperate for matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:58 PM
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They’re not gonna think youre crude are weird for announcing youre hungry at a restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:56 PM
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Even when the pictures aren’t bad, they’re trying to rely just on their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:54 PM
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If you look like some men's dating profiling and they tell you their dating behavior, they're very picky and their profiles suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:08 PM
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I was listening to Scott Galloway who said men need 2000 swipes to get 5 coffees. Out of those 5 coffees, 4 will ghost you. The problem is when I saw guys' profiles and how they went about their matches, it was their fault. One guy got 290 matches, ignored 190 of them. Also, he set his age range between 18 to 25. He was 22, but if guys are REALLY upset about quantity, they would just expand their age range up to 10 years their senior. Like who wants a will they won't they relationship? That happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:06 PM
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Well, depend of wich kind of online dating. See, that's the problem no one really talks about. Whether or not you're using an app that dont match with you. I realized once I stopped using bumble and used apps that were big on profiles, my luck changed immensely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:01 PM

most men are better off passports bro maxing That indicates they are definitely the problem, not social media, not their environment. If women in your own country dont like you, that says alot, especially a Western country. They are definitely not average men if they suck with their peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:58 AM
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It's like a casino machine, it's configured in a certain way. When did real life be any better? Dating apps are configured to make money not to find your best partner. That's your job. You know how I got better success? I looked through other dating apps and found ones that matched with me. Women only like 10-20% of men in these apps. So? From what I have seen on these experiments guys so, they still act picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:56 AM

Also, passing on women doesn't mean that dating isn't terrible for men. It's a problem of their own making. If the complaint is getting dates, then ignoring that many women is stupid. Sure, you can call it "picky" Guys like to lie about their desperation and how they'll take anything. I think average people should be able to find other average people to date. Who are you to decide that? Men need to stop overestimating their value. If all his options are well below average, I'm not going to call …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:51 AM
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being likable doesn't mean shit when the context is realationship That mindset is precisely why people say men's dating problems is mostly self inflicted. Now how does that make sense to you outside of a patriarchal society? If guys are saying stuff like that on dates without understanding how bad it sounds, no wonder they struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:40 AM
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Ironically, OkCupid was a lot better before it tried to be more like Tinder. Now I think it’s basically a ghost town now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:25 AM
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When people meet organically they see many other cues besides looks and a short bio that's more akin to marketing than an actual description of the person As someone who has seen very dysfunctional relationships from the people around me, that’s very easy to bullshit chemistry and to be a horrible character. Online dating relies a lot on looks and the reality is that most people aren't good looking enough to lead with that Well, that’s where intelligence comes in. A person who leads with looks w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:08 AM
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You've made s bunch of posts defending monopolies that prey on human loneliness I am one who has personally met lonely guy offline and talked to them online, it’s usually a self-inflicted problem. Typically, they’re too lazy to socialize and/or they’re simply unlikable. It’s no wonder offline dating wasn’t working either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:01 AM
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I’m going to use a video. I watched as an example. It was about how hard dating is for men. It was a guy that’s wiped on 7000 women and he got 290 matches from it. Of those 290 matches, he ignored 191 matches. Now, if online dating was horrible and unfair to men, why would they ignore 2/3 of their matches? Even with other dating experiment, I was looking at, it usually turned out there was pickiness involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:59 AM
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Like a situationship. I think it’s easier to end up in one offline because people are trying to not push the issue. With online dating you can make it very clear you’re looking for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:30 AM
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Well, I looked into the issues guys had in online dating. It’s not impossible to find women on dating apps. It just guys have to stop being picky. Also, alot of guys cause their dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:29 AM
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I n the entire title of the post It’s a great thing I wrote more than just what was in that title. That means they shouldn’t tell it to people they cold approach either Then can society stop acting like fucking random strangers is cool and progressive? Because clearly people think that shit is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:52 PM
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You can be open about just/primarily wanting sex without being rude. “I’m looking for something casual,” or “I’m looking for friends with benefits,” are some ways to state it that are very clear but not rude. But people aren’t even doing that, especially when talking to a lot of guys in this sub and then wanna complain that some woman wasted his time. Or when women say “sex is an expression of love in a relationship” but they have been more than able to screw people and it meant absolutely nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:50 PM
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You're assuming that's a lie for everyone It’s just people who know how to actually be romantic know how to be romantic without leading everything up to sex. It's not about morality, If that was the case, there wouldn’t be any issue being upfront about what you want. But it seems people want to fuck strangers without admitting they want to fuck strangers. I very much do not just want to "get fucked" Do you actually want romance or are you renaming sex something else because you don’t want to adm…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:11 PM
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And lots of people are still having kids, that doesn’t mean there’s not a decrease.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:03 PM
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Gen Z still wants sex. You can still want something and want it less than other people. They just don’t have the same social and interpersonal skills What does that have to do with fucking? Because it still gets me to the thought that I don’t think people really like sex like they pretend to. There’s plenty of fun activities people can do that don’t require social skills to be that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:52 PM
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Imagine being an 18 year old moving out to college, and your first intro to sex with random people is Tinder. I'm also including guys who follow that red pill Tate type of thinking, fuckboys, pump and dump, narcissists, etc. Charm is overrated when it's not back by substance. Nice guys from a hobby group would have 0% of people who have been to prison before. You have no clue of knowing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:47 AM
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Less sex and a falling birth rate, which mean less people to handle the expenses of the elderly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:30 AM
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Sex is a normal, healthy, natural part of life. Then why does it seem to be the center of a fuck ton of problems? Intimacy is an incredibly important aspect of psychological well being, Problem is people have to actually WANT intimacy. Not pretend they do. Our current generation's biggest problem is alienation and isolation, From my experience, alot of it is self inflicted. People are 'weird' about sex because the cultural language and practices that once handled this aspect of life has been dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:29 AM
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but it feels like sex has become wrapped up in an important battleground for gender rights and agency It has always been that way. There's a reason the places with the most kids are poor, religious, and patriarchal. I feel like the way it’s treated in same gender relationships is probably a healthier representation of how society “ should” view it. I wouldn't go that far considering some of the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:23 AM
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Big things like these come from multiple reasons, not just one. Also, even when going outside, I dont think there's that much of an interest either, because like I said, Gen Z likes to sort out their problems the more healthy way rather than drinking and fucking. Idk, Gen Z is overall the least weird about sex compared to any other generation Because theyre not drinking and fucking their problems away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:20 AM
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Just his. No foreplay. No wanting to learn how to excite me. No stimulation. Just. Let me shove it in. A guy can flirt with you and still have all of those problems. Because if sex isnt the point then sex doesnt sound appealling whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:47 PM
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It honestly doesnt sound like women like sex as much as they claim, not even sex positive women seem to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:43 PM
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Why would I want someone who was aware of basic politeness and didn't tell people they'd met once how much they wanted to have sex with them? I do wonder. As I said in my last sentence of the post: I’m confused, why would you guys want someone who pretends they’re not mainly trying to fuck on a date? Someone who pretends that they’re looking for something other than sex, when clearly sex is the main thing they want isn’t that a stupid waste of everyone’s time? And I personally don't want someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:35 PM
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It’s not for the people who want to have mutual sex with each other. But it's about the discussion around it and the complaint of evil bible thumpers being people feel ashamed of sex, as I was explaining in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:08 PM
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Not being open about your sexual desires to strangers Where did I make this argument? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:02 PM
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No, I mean even when people try to strip religion fervor of shaming sex out of society, we still have the "sex positive" community being weirdos about it. We still have guys not respecting their sex partners, we still have women pretending they're not horny, and we still have people using sex as therapy. Ironically, the incels who follow people like Tate are conservatives but they're not the religious types, which leaves no one liking them. There's so many people who simply dont want to fuck for…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:56 PM
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However I’m not going to announce it to society or randomly at social events and meeting people. Right.... would you go around announcing to random people you're looking for romance, passion, etc? Otherwise, wouldn't that be given? Sexual compatibility is very important to me. Therefore I use to bring up sex early in the dating stage even if I’m not planning to have sex with them early. There are certain sexual behaviors that are dealbreakers for me. It’s best to get that out the way. Right, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:43 PM
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Honestly, I think that's what made Gen Z less enthused about sex than previous generations. Because it's realize alot/most people are weirdos about sex. They dont want to simply have fun, they want to use it as a way to improperly deal with their emotional baggage that they wont get therapy/medication for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:40 PM
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your entire post is about being forward and open about your desires i think. And you guys seem to not being able to handle it. Sex positivity clearly isn't real if you guys are ashamed about being honest. Summarize your point in say 3 sentences, You came onto my post to comment. You summarize my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:38 PM
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Just like there's less crass ways to ask for more compensation That's not the same thing as lying or concealing. Like I said in my post: “Sex isnt the only thing I want” So how long are you willing to wait before having? If someone wasn’t that good at first, would you be OK teaching them to get better? And if someone didnt make sex their priority outside of like once a month, you’d be fine with it? I never understood when people say that because you’re not going to care about a relationship if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:36 PM
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You are intentionally being obtuse Hypocrite, because why was this the first thing in your mind? So if you go to the bar looking for a hookup the first thing you will say to a very attractive stranger that comes up to you is "please fuck my brains out and let me have your babies"? Elaborate. Why was this even in your head to begin? What in my post triggered this thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:30 PM
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It seems more like most "sex positive" people dont want to ask for that and want to just say some bullshit like "I'm super passionate and romantic".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:26 PM
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When you go into a job interview do you lead with something like "“I wanna get paid, I wanna get paid good, I wanna get paid often, I wanna get paid NOW”? I know I don't. Ah, so you guys try lying about being honest sounds icky. Yeah, it's not just religious people who are weird about sex. It's not wonder less Gen Z are fucking. Sex isn't the only thing or the most important thing in a relationship, You guys have to actually ACT like it's not. That's been my problem with this sub when people say…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:24 PM
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They don’t need to feel ashamed of their natural desires, but they do need to keep it to themselves But how was lying about being such a “romantic” any better? And how they “need to feel desired” better?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:07 PM
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I’m confused, why would you guys want someone who pretends they’re not mainly trying to fuck on a date? Someone who pretends that they’re looking for something other than sex, when clearly sex is the main thing they want isn’t that a stupid waste of everyone’s time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:05 PM
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So if you go to the bar looking for a hookup the first thing you will say to a very attractive stranger that comes up to you is "please fuck my brains out and let me have your babies"? It says a lot that sex is only appealing when we all have to bullshit and lie. I think sexual compatibility is important for a long term relationship, But you think honesty is weird? Honestly, I think this is a major reason Gen Z isnt having as much sex. It’s not just the bible thumpers that are weird about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:00 PM
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Why would you want someone who pretends they’re sensual and romantic when they’re just super horny? If anything, that makes sex less appealing, because people want to play stupid games.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:55 PM
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This is like when you guys say "Sex is necessary but insufficient", it's very telling you guys can't name the other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:42 AM
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it's much safer to do that in modern society if men don't want any backlash Because the general consensus is that they're a joke and a scam. You guys keep forgetting that 50% of the population is male. Still mostly about looks, though. Thanks for proving my point. The belief is basically "If I had pretty privilege, this wouldn't be a problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:36 AM
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That's assuming the problem is social skills without showing that it is. I have literally shown you guys men getting rejected based on their behavior and profile, but you’ll still make it about looks. Red pill isn't notorious for that, either, since that's where many men go specifically And most guys think theyre a joke and a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:49 PM
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Maybe you should answer that question about your response to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:22 PM
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. You're just deciding, arbitrarily, that ignoring 65% of them is not desperate enough. Rejecting most of your options without giving them a chance means youre not desperate. I'm sure women ignore 95% of their matches So you guys arent different from women. You just wish you had more options. I'm sure women ignore 95% of their matches Because there’s more men than women on the able. But also, this is just one random person and it's a woman's perspective Thanks for showing you didnt actually read…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:00 PM
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I'm not picky when you compare my match rate to women The vast majority of dating apps users are males. Youre not less picky. You just have less options. You're using an arbitrary benchmark for pickiness Im not. You just didnt read the post. instead of doing a like-for-like comparison “ First of all, if men were desperate, a 47% like rate is abysmal. Real desperation is 80% like rate. Also, his age range was 18 to 25. How interesting he wouldnt go up to 18 - 30, despite the fact thats within 10 …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:58 PM
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If we measure pickiness by number of matches Just say youre mad you have less matches. Stop with this lying. Youre picky too. You just mad you have less options to pick through, I wanted to point out that there's no point including outliers Then why are guys here always using outliers as proof how hard guys have it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:18 PM
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Yeah no, you have no argument here. Not after we've all seen Nazi child molester Chad's performance on the apps. There’s nothing more to say about men who look at a monster and only feel envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:42 AM
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Why not just admit you want a fuckbuddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:19 AM
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Friendship can teach you how to talk, listen, and enjoy another person’s company Plenty of guys are failing at that and then pretend its attraction thats the problem. The redpill and incels, for example, are notorious for failing at these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:17 AM
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Why do you attempt to give dating advice to men when you have never even pretended for a second that you have their best interests in mind? Its always funny when the redpill keep clamoring for people to pay attention to them and then get upset when people DO pay attention to them. If the manosphere just STFU no one would care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:15 AM
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It's not literal bullying from school The fact YOU still compared it to that is a problem. That shows a lack of maturity. They always required a filtered, basic and dry treatment. And then, like you, they complain about men not having fun on dates? You guys have shit social skills and only know how to be vulgar bullies. This has nothing to do with what I said. Spending a decade in therapy as you suggest No one suggests therapy to people who are acting stable. If you want to keep being unstable, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:14 AM
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to the point that dating is almost entirely irrelevant to talk about To a NORMAL person, yes. Problem is their priorities are not straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:08 AM
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Doesn't matter whether or not women are claiming they're desperate This post is made because guys lie to themselves. Sure, a lot of men are envious of women So you guys lie. You’re just mad you have less options than women. Thats all. Guys will feel they're not picky until they're compared against women's dating experience; then they know they're not picky There’s no substantial difference between their pickiness, as I have explained in my post. But also, you're getting hung up on an outlier of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:55 AM
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In terms of attraction If thats all you care about. Most people want more than someone finding them hot,
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:51 AM
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Interacting with a woman who may become a romantic prospect is qualitatively different from my interactions with friends, and this continues into the relationship So y’all flirt, fuck, and nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:38 PM
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This isn't just men, it's everybody No, its not everybody. Its miserable people, People befriend people when it makes sense to befriend them contextually No, most people befriend who they like. As another person said, I might have been describing a sociopath. If someone believes they're not getting anything out of the relationship Very very very few people will believe having insufferable unlikable friends is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:36 PM
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Nice guys lie to themselves, so they’ll always be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:29 PM
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We came to a conclusion that dating isn't simply "hanging out and having fun" Its just most people know how to be fun without being vulgar bullies, Like…..adults want to date ADULTS. Yeah let me just spend 15 years in therapy while Chad hooks up with girls Already admitting you dont want to break from gender norms. There’s no point in complaining about gender norms you’re willing to abide by.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:26 PM
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Men often socialize differently than women, but “different” isn’t the same as “deficient.” If a guy is struggling how to simply talk to women and how to be likable, it is a deficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:53 PM
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For a lot of people first date is getting to know a guy AND see if there is this spark there, because there should be a reason to continue dating. The first date being fun is typically the reason to continue dating. Because scammers, cheaters, fuckboys, manipulators are all extremely good at creating that spark. I think the interest of sex and romance should be there, but the main focus of a first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:51 PM
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How is being too platonic detrimental? I’m getting skeptical. It was because he was being too platonic because you’re not really explaining what you did on the dates. It’s because often women want to be seduced, flirted with and wooed romantically Im just gonna take it as he goes for women who basically want to speedrun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:49 PM
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No. You are mixing something seriously up here. In my experience this is how women act Except I asked men here if they would want to be around awful people and the majority of the answers was “Yes, if theyre useful”. That's what women do No. Women frequently see and talk to their friends. It can get very deep, emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:43 PM
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hanging out with a friend is when you can crack inappropriate jokes, bully each other, According to you that’s how you started off your friendships. I cant recall that being a normal female experience. Men are raised like this As an adult, its your responsibility to unlearn, especially in a western societies that encourages breaking gender norms,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:33 PM
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He doesn’t have issues attracting women but being too platonic is often detrimental But HOW? And what TYPE of women is he into?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:13 PM
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yeah? That would be a horrible idea for a woman to do because she’ll be a pariah quickly if she does not gauge her audience first. how are they choosing that? Not wanting to be emotionally regulated, getting help, working on social skills, finding any criticism against how society teaches as a war on men in general, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:12 PM
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When to ask questions, how to ask questions, when to flirt, and to read body language. Many men report that dating feels like an interview, Well, how did they meet their friends? Because I suspect doing an activity rather than talking to them. so ladies need to learn to relax and have fun too Questions like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:57 AM
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dating is nonchalant bs mindgames and pretending you're just "seeing where the things go" like you aren't actually interested in your partner. How are you defining “interested”? hanging out with a friend is when you can crack inappropriate jokes, bully each other, take it well and actually have fun But did you START OFF doing that? not because guys are dysfunctional or socially inept More like because young men, atleast in the West, are choosing to be that way and a mix of being more likely to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:56 AM
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I had a friend who’s a pretty likable guy, charismatic and makes friends easily, but he struggled dating. We went out on a double date once and I could see the issue. He was too platonic and his date felt more like kicking it with a friend. The woman texted him after the date saying that she’s feels like more of a friend so they should be friends. Apparently tats how most of his date go. The other factors are what he’s doing on the date and what’s his type. If he likes who expect something quick…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:46 AM
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"Okay but not everyone goes into a first date with the intention of getting fucked at the end of it." - that doesn't matter. You still need to appear sexy, appear interesting in something more than just chatting like with a colleague. It does, especially for someone who takes vetting seriously, doesnt want their judgement clouded, if she’s strictly looking for something long term, etc. For alot of people, a first date is getting to know a guy, not figuring if theyre gonna feel like Jack and Rose…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:38 AM
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the women who have no friends can’t make friends Theyre not getting a man easily. There’s a reason the women most popular with guys are also extraverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:33 AM
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Guy who date need to actually appear sexy, flirt and create sexual tension, Okay but not everyone goes into a first date with the intention of getting fucked at the end of it. Without that it's easy to be discarded with "there is no spark" comment. Spark doesnt have to automatically mean sexual tension. Also, Im talking about the “He cant hold a conversation” type of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:15 AM
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many women also don’t have friendships Not as much as guys with no friends. are very anti social, introverted, but they get a man pretty easy Theyre choosing not to have friends. Being unable and not choosing are quite different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:01 AM
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But again, how are they defining friends? And what are the problems theyre having?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:58 AM
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Lilith we’ve been through this many are upset that being an asshole or not is irrelevant in the first place What the Tate brothers are going through should have already proved to you thats a stupid way of thinking,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:52 AM
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Feels like your strawmaning the post YOU SAID “ Acknowledging that this is how the world works is.tne redpill btw, that's why redpill basically says morals are irrelevant” and thats dumb, because the Tate bros just got snatched from Florida to be on trial in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:51 AM
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which implies being in a location more conducive to meeting women offline Being in a bad location can't be a reason why7 a guy is struggling with dating because the internet eliminates location as a barrier. There are so many factors that can affect a man's experience with the online dating apps. Sometimes there's nothing the man is doing "wrong" other than being in a location with a small, low-quality dating pool, or they may currently live in an area that's a mismatch for their personality and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:15 AM
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If any match is good enough for men to not be considered desperate and we apply the same definition of desperate to women It's not women claiming they're desperate, though. Then, if you compare how easy it is to get a match for a woman So men aren't actually struggling with dating you guys are just jealous of women? You're comparing a man's dating experience against your own measure of "ease"; Thank you for that "yes". I'm not interested in how picky a man is depending on some arbitrary baseline…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:12 AM
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Not most, but many do, especially in the manosphere. They will also lie to themselves. I just want a nice average women with a low n count. They do…. but she has to let him fuck her immediately.. Someone who doesn't have any plastic surgery Thats not a lie. Plastic surgery can look bad. and doesnt wear much makeup More like they can’t tell when someone’s wearing makeup. Who men actually give all their attention: The hot popular girls who are thin and aged 18-21 Popular doesn’t automatically mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:30 PM
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Some guys will fuck anything, though. That’s being picky too because most women want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:16 PM
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If the rule of thumb is the quality of women on online dating apps is lower on average than offline I have never said that, nor do I believe that. then offline is better Also, you just destroyed your whole point about location. There is a level of intrinsic satisfaction to interacting with real people offline that interacting So you bring up location was irrelevant. You just prefer off-line dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:15 PM
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you do understand that women have much, much higher standards on partners But there has to actually be a noticeable difference. In the latest post I did, I showed guys were still picky, even when they complained about having no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:04 PM
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I actually did a whole post on this subject. Stacy is what the brainrot call 10/10 good looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:45 PM
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Right, they chose that struggle. They're not a victim. That is the path they have chosen for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:21 PM
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Right, they chose that struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:20 PM
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When its something like a hobby women hardly do, yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:12 PM
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A lot of men complain about quality too. Right, so the complaints about women's complaints are stupid and hypocritical. Men are picky too, men care about quality too. The problem isn't that they have "zero matches", it's that they dont like their matches, same as women. Men aren't more "reasonable" than women, they're not more "desperate" than women. They simply have less options. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:08 PM
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Acknowledging that this is how the world works is.tne redpill btw, that's why redpill basically says morals are irrelevant So you just revealed that the redpill is stupid. That's how you'll end up like the Tate brothers having three different countries lining up to jail you for decades. As soon as the Tate brothers got to Florida, the governor worked his ass off to find a reason to kick them out. That's what the route you want to go? again the attraction is the door Baseline attraction and prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:06 PM
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Having standards doesn't mean someone isn't struggling. The struggle is a choice. Only if the difficulty is entirely self-created. As I have shown in my post. Women aren't expected to pursue every man who likes them But women are not complaining about quantity. They’re complaining about quality. Guys here complain about quantity and hate when women complain about quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:44 PM
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Their sad that what they been told works Most of you arent exceptional enough to be rulebreakers. Get over it, the men have been gaslit on there about personality only mattering Most of you aren’t attractive enough for your personality to not matter. Get over it. Its also that on top of this many men with the personality That’s for other people to decide. Not for him to decide. It doesn’t matter if he says he’s a good person, other people have to believe he’s a good person. it's the idea that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:39 PM
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You guys are honestly upset that you you have to suffer massive consequences for being an asshole, like everyone else. I don’t know what makes you guys think that is sympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:32 PM
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in the first place also being upset that other have just been fortunate enough to pull a better lot in life is understandable. You guys are honestly upset that you you have to suffer massive consequences for being an asshole, like everyone else. I don’t know what makes you guys think that is sympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:25 PM
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remember the other side claims that the expections do not exist Most of you are still not exceptional. So oh well, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:20 PM
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It’s really that they’re mad that there are exceptions to the rules, it’s just they’re not exceptional. They’re mad at their men who don’t need good moral character to get women, but those women expect characteristics that those men don’t possess either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:59 PM
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It’s not really putting women on a pedestal, it’s about seeing people from a utility perspective. They only care if someone is of use to them. Also, it’s being an emotional toddler. The other option is that we're all liars who promised good prizes women but in reality it's damaged goods Toddlers want reality to bend to their will. If people aren’t doing what the toddler wants, the toddler feels victimized. They think that women should choose men fairly Honestly, I would argue the dating market i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:58 PM
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And you guys think that’s worse than going the Epstein route? Is that where your morals are?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:43 PM
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Sometimes there's nothing the man is doing "wrong" Thing is guys who are doing wrong will always claim this. Sometimes there's nothing the man is doing "wrong" other than being in a location with a small, low-quality dating pool The point of the internet is to expand your search for people like you. if the local area is that suffocating, then that’s their sign to move. The reality is online dating apps are just a garbage product for most men If you’re going to use location as an excuse, how is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:26 PM
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Because you were trying to talk shit and I'm clarifying that "whataboutism" was appropriate when the post is a counterargument. Since you thought the original argument was flimsy, it render your counter to my counter argument useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:46 PM
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Adaptation is important, but it also matters how we talk about people who are struggling. Telling someone they are failing because they haven’t “adapted enough” can ignore factors like mental health, trauma, social anxiety, disability, I had an ex with these problems, and he still did nothing to fix these problems despite the fact having the job to fund his mental health journey. Meanwhile, I have met younger adults with less money, using free resources to work on their mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:26 PM
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The fact you’re having to ask everyone about this, speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:24 PM
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So you're choosing to dismiss and ignore women as well So you’re going to oversimplify my argument because you can’t argue against the reasons why I said she’s being an idiot. Got it. You're also using niceguy logic. Being picky lowers match quality Since you don’t know what quantity is, we can end this discussion right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:21 PM
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It proves he had to make an absurd number of attempts to get one result. Yes, because of his pickiness and his absurd standards. Dating difficulty isn’t measured by whether someone is willing to accept literally anybody. You choosing the difficulty makes your complaining irrelevant The 16,000-swipe example has the same problem. A 3% match rate is still a 3% match rate If he was actually desperate, he would’ve swiped on 80% of the people he saw on Tinder and he wouldn’t have ignored 191 women. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:21 PM

This is you showing that men are crazy for using YouTube videos as sources? Because it didn’t say what they think it says, but since you rejected the sources entirely, there’s no further reason to have discussions on the issue. You saying they can basically be used as sources as you recognize it’s not a formal source? But you rejected all of them on the count that they’re not formal sources, since you basically rejected the arguments I was arguing against, there’s no reason to further discuss th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:14 PM

So your point was that it doesn’t prove desperation? And you basically said that the dating experiment I was told to look at don’t prove desperation either, so the debate ends there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:12 PM

Not once have you said that until I said they weren’t good sources They were given to me as good sources of showing me how hard dating is for men. Since you rejected the evidence that it shows that dating is hard for men, then there’s no point in continuing the conversation. Because you already rejected the original argument I was countering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:10 PM

They didn’t call me out they just said why didn’t I say it other times She didn't. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:06 AM

There was a debate, just one where me and a couple of people telling you that you intentionally missed the point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:03 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:02 AM

She didn’t even debate me just got upset Speaking of bad faith! I said this isn’t a study No, you said it wasnt a FORMAL study and neither were the other dating experiments I referenced, so there was no point in continuing the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:57 AM

What an interesting coincidence you were just complaining about whataboutism on my post after 3 or 4 different people called you out for missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:56 AM

Also, beyond the "whataboutism" he's complaining about, he also didn't read my post based on questions he asked me. Not sure how someone can have a good faith debate when they're not even reading what the debate is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:36 AM

This is about him getting upset that people told him that his argument against my post isn't a counter to my post because it was already a counter to another argument. His argument was "Your sources aren't formal studies". Like yeah, everyone knows. The point is that they're stupid sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:31 AM
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You talked about the fact it's not a formal study. Well, none of them are, so no point in continuing. Gonna be the last reply from me until you decide to discard that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:23 AM
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You have fundamentally misunderstood every argument I've ever made to justify your own claims. Hypocrite because nothing in my words would have led anyone else to that conclusion outside of someone who already had this in mind. https://preview.redd.it/eu6011exipeh1.png?width=940&format=png&auto=webp&s=83072f247dfbb64fc6865cda8998ce03099d43cb
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:16 AM
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That was my rebuttal to the claim that "an incel isn't an incel until they've exhausted all possible options to not be an incel." You didn't. You went straight to being Epstein's customer the moment I said they're volcels. You accidentally implied THAT is a satisfying sexual encounter over more moral/legal solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:14 AM
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. You are doing the same thing they are doing and using videos as a source. That's how a counterargument works. So your counter to my counter is "This source is stupid". Yeah, EVERYONE KNOWS. That's the point. It's STUPID. So you have given me no other reason to continue the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:11 AM
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Also, in all your attempts to make men seem like the victims, you ended up making them look like the villains. You have basically showed why incels are considered an international threat to societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:08 AM
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And they are just as bad for doing it Then take it up with them, not the person responding to them. Are we gonna whattaboutism my point to death Yes, because you refuse to understand CONTEXT.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:04 AM
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You could show a picture of a 5/10 man to 1000 women, ask them if they would like to have sex with them, Women more often than not dont even orgasm during casual sex, so why would they generally want to? They typically dont, they try it, realize it sucks, and dont do it again. The women you guys see love hookups are in the minority. I used getting sex for that example, because it is a good indicator of if someone finds that person attractive. According to guys here, no it's not. than there would…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:04 AM
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Many of the men who claim that men are desperate and will settle for any woman are likely desperate men who will in fact settle for any woman. Then let me rephrase: Dating is brutal for men because they make it brutal for them. If they were really hurting for some matches/success, they would lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:00 AM
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If you're assuming I said CSA was "the better solution," as opposed to "the logical endpoint of your claim," The fact your mind even went there unprompted makes that a distinction without a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:17 AM
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If you're talking about focusing on personality and compatability, that's been a thing in dating since forever, that's not new and that's not something men need to re-learn. Most men dont. The guys I made this post about definitely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:14 AM
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That's such a complete misreading of what I wrote that I'm starting to question your reading comprehension. That's how they end up thinking women told them sex is a reward for niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:12 AM
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You're confusing consideration for illustration. All because I said they're volcel because they're not willing to settle? And then leading to you implying CSA is the better solution, implying indignation, which stems from entitlement to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:06 AM
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edit it so youre not implying CSA could theoretically anything. Why would he do that? He knew what was saying. There's a reason he past talking about sex toys and consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:04 AM
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like how can women be constantly complaining that men are trying to get with them That's not the topic, so I dont care. But also, if you look at the last video I posted, even the guys were creeped out by how the women behaved when talking to Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:03 AM
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The argument of "if a man were truly desperate, he wouldn't be picky" is a textbook appeal to purity, Which had led you down the route of considering CSA as a solution to Inceldom. Not the ladies of the night, not other consenting adults, just STRAIGHT TO EPSTEIN ISLAND. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:01 AM
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Wait why would you use some of what the incels use Did you really just ask why would I use evidence that the sub regularly use when making my post in this very sub? Like I said, just take it up with the guys here. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:57 AM
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you are the one who brought up the videos as evidence but there is nothing in them that is even similar to your claim. How about you copy and paste exactly what you're arguing against in my post? Because you dont seem to be actually reading the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:54 AM

Just to let you know, this was the type of conversation that was just had. So this is the reaction given when told guys might have to settle if sex so much of a need for them. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:53 AM
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Are you trolling Bringing up CSA to solve inceldom COULD be trolling, but considering there's a reason incels are considered an international threat.....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:49 AM
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One guy just said that committing CSA is a good solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:44 AM
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"have you tried being a worse person," See how quickly you take the deprave route when I bring up accountability and criticizing entitlement? Just like you imply people who think like that deserve love?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:41 AM
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He's not promoting anything. He brought it up for no reason. There could’ve been other solutions to solve inceldom, but he picked the Epstein route.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:40 AM
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The whole point of the post is that I was told to look at experiments and to see how hard dating is for me. And since you have already discredit the things this sub shown to me, there is nothing else to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:35 AM
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There’s nothing to elaborate. You discredit my post because they’re not formal studies, so I guess this conversation is over. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:32 AM
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Do you still care that these arent formal studies? If yes, then this conversation is going to be very short.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:26 AM
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So that’s all you were willing to read? Well, there’s nothing else to really say because you’re not willing to even read the post to have a discussion about it. Is there sad the fact that we can’t have a decent discussion on it because you guys aren’t willing to actually read what is written in the post. But oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:22 AM

Btw, he just brought up incels committing CSA as a solution. Dont talk to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:14 AM
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Listen, just copy and paste what I said about that guy, because I’m not going to hold none of your hands if you’re not gonna bother reading my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:13 AM
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You're the one who chose to raise the argument This is what happens when a lack of accountability is mixed in with a sense of entitlement. You think some fucked up shit and then you try to blame it on me. And by the way, next time you try to talk to me, I’m gonna make sure everyone’s reminded just how you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:07 AM
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An incel could theoretically stop being an incel if they start preying on children. See how fast you go into depravity and entitlement as soon as accountability is expected? And by the way, next time you try to talk to me, I’m gonna make sure everyone’s reminded just how you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:04 AM
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An incel could theoretically stop being an incel if they start preying on children. See how fast you go into depravity as soon as accountability is expected?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:04 AM
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I explained my reasons for saying that, if you guys would so kindly actually respond to the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:03 AM
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Making the font bigger doesn't improve it as an argument. I’m using bigger font because I don’t think you guys are reading what I’m writing. Then they are picky beggars That’s just an oxymoron, they’re not actually beggars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:00 AM
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Right, because that’s the pattern with this sub. Guys here don’t care about what I’m saying, they just know I made them upset and that hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:00 AM
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No, they’re claiming they’re not as picky about it as women. But that’s based on what they think is an average woman, which is extremely attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:58 PM
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It's the same underlying logic that paints incels as volcels unless they have settled for even the most unsatisfying sexual encounters to ascend. So it is voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:57 PM
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i watched the videos and none of them said anything along the lines of the guy being able to appeal to most women You cant be saying “but I dodnt say that” and then start arguing against what other people didnt say. We cant converse if youre gonna be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:55 PM
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It’s not like you guys have anything to count through my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:35 PM
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Insulting me doesn’t change what I said. Men aren’t desperate they like being picky and dont care it leaves them with little options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:30 PM
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A Western guy in 2026 is gonna have to make really good point how being treated like shit on a massive scale isnt his fault. I’m waiting for an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:29 PM
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Once you drop the bad arguments and delusions So now facts are delusions because it shows men dont lower their standards enough? People should be picky anyways So men aren’t actually desperate. They want to have the limited dating options they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:28 PM
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They FEEL desperate. Having to lower one’s standards to a fat girl feels like desperation…..until they realize they live in America and the average woman is actually obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:22 PM
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I gave my example in my post, but since you’re not gonna read it, there’s no point in continuing this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:21 PM
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which successful men agree with you I gave the videos. If you’re going to actually participate in the debate, can you please actually address what I say instead of skimming? I showed multiple videos of men explaining how dating is it that hard, that guy is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:19 PM
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Many people are angry with dating because they feel they should be valued more That is a sense of entitlement. A Western guy in 2026 is gonna have to make really good point how being treated like shit on a massive scale isnt his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:18 PM
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your explanation would not make him appealing to most women Oh lovely, men telling women what women want even when other men WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL AT DATING agree with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:15 PM
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idk what any of that has to do with "manosphere" Of course you dont. You’re not looking at anything on my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:14 PM
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For example, even a man desperate for female attention may not date a woman he's not attracted to So he’s not actually desperate. That alone implies that many beggars do, in fact, still try to choose. They’re a bunch of liars. They’re picky, they’re just mad they wont get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:13 PM
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You were around in the early 1900s? You were marching with MLK in the 60s?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:09 PM
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Some may be entitlement others not so much. You just described a sense of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:06 PM
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Many people are angry with dating because they feel they should be valued more. No one is gonna entertain their sense of entitlement. That men shouldn’t complain? If theyre desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:03 PM
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that's not what i said though - i am just challenging your baseless claim that he would appeal to most women if he was really desperate. I explained how, but you intentionally ignored it. So I have to guess you ignored it because you guys wanting the type of treatment they see hot girls getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:01 PM
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Ok? Go get some formal studies then. Im working with what guys here give me and expect me to look at. If its stupid, take it up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:59 PM
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Who’s WE?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:58 PM
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I haven't seen any of your videos Thats on you. I showed my evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:58 PM
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This cannot be used “like a study” as there’s formal things set in place for actual studies Then I guess none of my examples can be used because none of them are formal. Youre more than welcome to bring formal studies on here!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:57 PM
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the average Millennial or Zoomer man is far more progressive in rhetoric and action than his predecessors As you can see from my videos, they also dont agree with the things the manosphere says.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:55 PM
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That’s not a metric of measurement at all. That’s just you guys pretending you’re more humble than what you are. As I have laid out, you guys just want pretty privilege so you could do nothing and get everything you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:49 PM
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They don't make any meaningful effort to change They FEEL desperate. That’s why they get angry when women tell them what desperation really is. If things are really as miserable as they claim, why keep doing the exact same thing that's been failing for years? They FEEL they compromised enough. If your approach doesn't work, you change your approach. That's what everyone else has had to do. They FEEL they changed enough. Women adapted to changing social expectations. They FEEL women shouldnt have…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:48 PM
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desperate men don't suddenly become physically attractive Thanks for proving my last sentence right! Guys wanting the type of treatment they see hot girls getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:45 PM
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She and you said that men make self regulation others problem A woman being a karen and a guy getting violent are two very different problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:23 PM
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But even looking at how they’re breaking down the numbers and how he’s not trying that hard was very very telling. Especially with that generic ass profile they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:28 PM
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Claiming men are the more logical ones is also based on a minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:15 PM
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Did your opinion change after seeing so many soccer players punching, insulting, bawling their eyes out during the world cup? I would say more that they're more likely to have their deregulation be everyone's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:14 PM
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I was gonna post today, but looking through dating experiments like this: https://youtu.be/35fiNZTVVtU?si=1B77k0AAZyzEXX0- Holy shit, I have ALOT of evidence of what I have been saying about guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:59 PM
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Found another Tinder date experiment: https://youtu.be/35fiNZTVVtU?si=jPb2Kg3cPLUVMKv3 The guy is entitled as HELL. He thinks having great credentials means he's should have gotten more women. Of the 290 women he matched with, he ignored 191 women. Now, if dating was so hard for men, why the FUCK would you do that? For you, dating someone you're attracted to is expected. For me, it's "being picky" First of all, from what guys here are saying about "the average woman", they just think Stacy is av…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:49 PM
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the requirement for the "man" to carry the situation, conversation, to plan and pay for the date, everything. Right, I've done all of that and it has yielded decent results. And I do occasionally pay for the guy. Men have a low quantity of options, and they are equally unlikely to be good. So dating as a guy isn't "brutal", they simply have less options to be picky with, but they'll still be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:36 PM
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But what am I looking for? Because the immediate results I get are women trying to date like women when they're suppose to be trying to date like men. Personally, I think men who struggle dont try dating like men, they try dating like they're hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:05 PM
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Sure, I’ll keep that in mind. But I do have things to do soon, so I don’t really wanna give too much of my time doing that right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:40 PM
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This is what I love talking to the manosphere. You guys clamor on heavily how women are unsympathetic and don’t understand what it’s like to be a guy, but as soon as women want to investigate, you guys will do nothing to back up your claims and get mad when women tell you the problems of what you’re doing. Anyways, I’m done. You guys can keep being lazy, but it’s still your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:33 PM
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THE ENTIRE POINT WAS NOT TO DO THAT So you guys want women to conclude that dating as the guy is hard after a woman was being a fucking idiot while she was posing as a guy? That’s really what you guys want us to take away from that? That you guys are acting as stupid as that bitch was and you expected expected pity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:27 PM
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How would you like evidence? I mean what is even sufficient enough for you lmao Also, getting a picture of your profile, just censor your face, would be very helpful. Take a picture of your likes before you boost the account. Take a picture showing that you did boost the account, and then take a picture of your likes after you boost the account.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:24 PM
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And I love it how even when the guy isn't the problem, a guy is the problem. The guy interviewing her gave his blessing for her to do the experiment with his pictures and didn't criticize a single fucking thing she did outside of saying "Well, we only get initial boosts from Tinder". Didn't call her out for acting dumb on Tinder whatsoever, just basking in the validation she gave him. How is he supposed to correct her during the experiment Talk to her? Communicate? You guys are so lazy, it shock…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:17 PM
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No, no it doesn’t. Paying for a sub/verifying my profile turned my 0 matches to a whopping 0 matches You guys claimed that, but I want to see some evidence of this. But I don’t think I’ll ever get it. Profile made by a close woman friend, semi-professional photos I spent 100$ on, 50$ a month sub, and that’s before I even get the CHANCE to take a girl out to dinner. Is this a friend who only cares about looks and status? Because there’s also a pattern of you guys seem to only know very superficia…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:37 PM
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Jokes aside, prove it's so easy You guys already have the verified account, so why do you need me to go through the extra trouble of getting a verified account when you already have one? Like I said, the fact that you wanted to make a claim that boosting doesn’t work, but you don’t even want to spend seven dollars so have evidence of your claim is very telling. You’re lazy and that’s why you’re dating experience isn’t going well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:34 PM
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Who exactly is praising her for doing shit wrong? NP .reddit.com/ r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1v0zl9e/comment/oyjt0nz/ I asked for a experiment where the guy was the problem….and he was still the problem, just that it was a woman behind the study being an idiot and the guy she’s talking to isnt correcting her on her stupidity. she is so because she was at least willing to try See how easily you guys love people that they stroke your ego instead of properly correcting them when theyre stupid? I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:30 PM
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And not only that, they’re not aware of it and seemingly comfortable being that way. I do not think it’s all men, but it’s definitely a large portion of them. I’m talking…basic stuff….”i spilt my water bottle, I can’t get in the gym, I cant log into my account, my membership has defaulted (ran out of money) have you had this handed into lost property” blah blah blah. That needs more context. I was at a Gym called Baileys and they tried to rip me off because they didnt see that the trainer they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:26 PM
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Show pictures of the number of people you liked you BEFORE boosting and after Boosting," You made the claim first, See lazy. Can’t even take a picture, can’t even spend seven dollars, And can’t even take another picture. Most men’s dating problems is a issue of laziness and a lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:20 PM
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You got exactly that. That tells me a lot about how you guys feel about accountability. She did so much shit wrong during that experiment and you guys are praising her. So women just want to become CEOs on demand Show me a news article about this. Because if a woman becomes CEO on a whim, just because of her gender, that’s making news.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:17 PM
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You're not a man So I cant get my account verified. why cant you guys do it? Why cant you guys do the experiment? Why do you guys want to force other people to do it? I've boosted my accounts and it made no difference. Show pictures of the number of people you liked you BEFORE boosting and after Boosting,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:59 PM
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Never in my life have I heard a woman having to boost See, you guys wish you could function like bimbos. It’s not that it’s impossible for a guy to get matches or be successful on dating apps. You guys just want to function like you’re bimbos. You aren't watching male behavior on Tinder Then why are you guys showing women dating experiments like these? I didn’t find this person, this video was given to me to show how hard it is for a guy to be on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:54 PM
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It's your claim, I already know boosting helps because I’ve done it multiple times on my own dating accounts. I’m not going to waste my time or money on dating experiments when other people have already done it and they’ve already strong problems with their situation. if you guys wanna approve unreasonably disadvantage on dating apps, you do it. You can get yourselves verified better than I can. You guys just won’t because you’re lazy, just like you guys are lazy on your dating profile which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:21 PM
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3 out of 5 or 2 out of 5, So they lied about it being a week long experiment. Thats actually really sad and pathetic. depending on when on day 3 she started being picky. So halfway through this lazy ass experiment she did, she worsened her situation. Judging by the video, she wasn't doing anything after day 5 other than wallowing in "self-pity". If guys are doing what she’s doing, I definitely have no sympathy. if you swipe on 100+ people the first 2 days, You guys are desperate as you pretend t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:17 PM
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How does match percentage make someone bottom or top? I don’t think you’re understanding if you want a study to be taken seriously, you can’t be putting your opinions into shit. You actually need to be as objective as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:11 PM
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Why can’t you guys do it yourselves if you have a verified account? Sounds like you guys are just lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:04 PM
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she decided that it might be better if she was more selective by matching with attractive women So five out of the seven days, she decided to get picky. So she spent the majority of the time going after women she thinks are hot. If that’s what the average guy is doing, then their problems are definitely self-inflicted. are acting like, suddenly becoming more selective for just 1 day, When did she say she stopped being picky? Again, she fell into depression on day 5 Because her dumb ass wanted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:49 PM
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You can ask a PPDer to help you. Why can’t you guys do it yourselves? Because that really does show the problem that you guys are just very, very lazy. You have done nothing and nothing has worked so you blame society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:45 PM
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Why does Lillith keep banging on about men being "good" or "bad", "kind" or "mean" “Why does Lillith respond ti the things guys constantly complain about and what guys beg women to acknowledge?” see, the problem is you guys thought acknowledgment and pity were the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:29 AM
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She literally said the opposite of that. 5:30 proves you wrong. It's funny how she became depressed by the experience in like 5 days Because she got more selective, she most likely didn’t verify the account, even though she had the guy to help her verify the account, and she most likely didn’t boost the account.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:27 AM
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Do you shave your legs? NOPE. Whyyyy? Because I don’t want to, and women naturally have hair on their legs, it’s just not as visible as men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:07 AM
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The criminal is still a worse person That doesn’t make good option if literally no one else wants to be around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:47 AM
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imagine comparing yourself to someone’s safety concerns because you dont like hearing that adherring to gender norms is optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:36 AM
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There are common criminals partying every night Guys, that’s saying something if they know how to make friends and you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:34 AM
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How much effort can one put in for a gender who thinks 5'10" is practically a midget Guys, you have to actually lower your standards. You guys keep thinking Stacy is average,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:23 AM
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The point is not that everyone only wants to be Chad Then stop bringing him up. Guys, Chad is not your competition because the women he gets would never fucking want you. when the man in question is attractive to the specific woman Guys, a woman like that will never want you. Stop wanting to fuck her, she don’t think a damn thing about you. Why is it that we normalise men approaching women for really no other reason than looks Then dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:22 AM
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are you asking how matches work or something? Listen if you guys are just putting your opinions into stuff, then this link you gave me is garbage. How do they know they're bottom or top based on matches? Matches also depends on the amount you're swiping too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:14 AM
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Another nonsensical thread from someone born into the privilege Imagine calling being likable a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:12 AM
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it then makes no sense to assume that people who can't befriend others are shitty. Means they're even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:11 AM
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How is he excluding them: "If you dont fish, I dont want you" in his bio. when they are the ones swiping left on him, Why would I swipe right on someone saying they only want fisherwomen and I'm not fisherwoman? How are you not getting this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:08 AM
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Because you guys hate what actual desperate looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:52 PM
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No. Dating apps are between 25% to 33% women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:52 PM
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“They will get what they get and they will like it” That is what desperation is. You guys aren't desperate. You just dont like the compromises you have to make. A desperate man accommodates women because he's grateful that any woman that respects him is in his life. So yes, if most women dont want to be around 33 snakes, he gets away from snakes. Most women dont like vulgar sweaters, he throws those sweaters away. Most women aren't into fishing, he dont demand for a fishing buddy, but having one…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:44 PM
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They sound crazy because you guys are actually no different from women. You just little bit you compromise on is enough and dont like being told you're not actually diving deep enough in that dumpster.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:34 PM
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Desperate people have no leverage whatsoever. Outside of bare minimum respect and safety, desperate people dont ask for a damn thing. They get what they get and they will like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:32 PM
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According to you if a man is desperate he should accept prostitutes, criminals, people he isn’t attracted to ect. That is actually being desperate. As long as she respects him and wont cause direct/indirect harm, he will accept that woman and he will be happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:29 PM
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I tend to believe most guys are desperate, if Because you redefined desperate. A man desperate for a woman asks NOTHING of her except bare minimum respect. Nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:26 PM
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No, just that you don’t have any arguments based in reality Desperate people are beggars and cant be choosers. That is reality. You guys just dont like the idea of actually lowering your standards. Yes, desperate person asks nothing from others and takes what is given and be thankful for it. Like I said, guys aren't desperate. You just say that because you guys already hate lowering your standards and are disgusted hearing you didn't lower them enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:22 PM
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What? You finally realized what desperation actually means and have nothing to say now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:17 PM
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“if you are desperate, you have no right to any hobbies or lifestyle traits Not you asking specific ones from women, absolutely not. Desperate people are beggars and beggars CANNOT be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:14 PM
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How did that change what I said? Dating apps aren't stagnant. Also, use other dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:13 PM
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Having a similar lifestyle isn’t exactly picky. Yes it is, especially when men are not in a position to be having these requirements form women, because they're allegedly so desperate. He swiped on 2 million women. Because he's picky and his success rate is that low. Do you agree women should be picky? You guys are the ones pretending men aren't picky, not me. Either way people should be picky lmfao, So men being desperate is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:11 PM
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You don’t know what picky means. "If you aint fishing I dont want you" is picky. If men were desperate, they aren't excluding women over not having a shared hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:08 PM
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You don’t know what picky means. "If you aint fishing I dont want you" is picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:07 PM
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So overall, what’s the argument here You can't even tell when a guy is being picky and unreasonable, so you're not a good judge on men's situation at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:05 PM
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You do realize that he swiped right on 2 million women, Because he's excluding a fuck ton of them with his "If you aint into fishing, I dont want you" belief, having 33 snakes, and wearing vulgar sweaters. His pickiness led him to swipe on a large volume of people. If he has less than one percent success rate that means 99.99 or whatever decimal it is swiped left on him. Because they dont fit what he is looking for. The reason why I do these big text because I dont think you gets are reading. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:02 PM
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Roughly 35% to 37% of all fishers are women, My apologies, I read that wrong. Around 20% of Americans are fishers (for a reference), so that means 14% of women are fishers. So men are allegedly already at a mass disadvantage online and he decides to basically go after 14% of them? . He isn’t doing anything but looking for general compatibilit When men are picky, you call it reasonable. When women are picky, you guys think that's a problem. Somehow that’s extreme pickiness A hobby most women dont…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:59 PM
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1/3 of 2 million is still 666’667 women. Thanks for proving when men claim to be desperate, they're lying. You guys certainly act like you have options, even when your success rate is horrid. Picky is filtering other people out aggressively. 2/3 is aggressive for a man having a less than 1% of 1% success rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:52 PM
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you still didn't answer how exactly swiping 2 million times means he is picky I did. You just dont like the answer. His success rate is less than 1 percent. He's forced to do that as a result of his pickiness, not because he's open to most women. A desperate man is open to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:48 PM
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Roughly 35% to 37% of all fishers are women, A desperate man still wouldn't reject 2/3 of women on that. How many of those women would be cool with 33 snakes and a man who wears a "Sit On My Face" sweater in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:47 PM
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The SwipeStats analysis of 7,079 profiles produced the pivot statistic: the bottom 10% of women (with a 15.87% match rate) still match more often than the top 10% of men (at 12.5%) How are they even determining that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:45 PM
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if he spent weeks swiping Because the vast majority of women are not into fishing. So his pickiness led him to needing to swipe that much to even get to 2k matches and 1k chats.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:39 PM
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Being picky is turning other people down for superficial reasons Over someone not fishing and your success rate is less than 1%? He aint desperate whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:35 PM
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I'm not seeing any evidence except that you guys keep describing Stacy and pretending she's average because you're have to accept your standards are too high and you actually think most women are butt ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:32 PM
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Thank you for proving my point. Men are picky, they just redefine it as "being reasonable". A desperate man keeps his options very very open.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:31 PM
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I don’t think you know what the word picky means Saying "If you aint fishing, I dont want you" is the most blatant example of pickiness he displayed. But also expecting most people to be chill with 33 snakes is extremely unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:29 PM
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So I cant see their profiles, nor their likes, or the amount of matches they have, nothing. She immediately said she started getting picky, not mention about a boost, if I remember correctly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw&t=709s Did a 6 month experiment. Didn't even think that saying he's looking for something short term would be a problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3d4rWHrR_Y&t=863s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:26 PM
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If a woman has 7 cats Imagine comparing 7 cats to 33 snakes. All because you wont admit when men are being picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:22 PM
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Not sure how that’s him being picky either. Because you dont want to acknowledge a man being picky, even when they are. You just believe women are the problem when a man can't get what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:20 PM
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Is that him being picky or women being picky? Imagine calling people picky because most of them dont want to be around 33 snakes. The audacity. Anything to keep the belief men are always the reasonable open minded gender, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:18 PM
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“They aren’t desperate because they don’t hide & change their hobbies” If he wants a woman who's fine with 33 snakes in his place, he's picky. You getting upset that's alot to ask a woman isn't going to change that's alot to asked from most people. He swiped on 2 million women As a result from his pickiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:16 PM
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So you want men to be fake So lying,. You said they aren’t desperate because they don’t drop every hobby they have You guys dont actually know what desperate is. You guys just say that word to SEEM more reasonable than what you actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:14 PM
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Men here: Women dont understand how desperate men are! Me: Have you ever improved yourself and compromised more on what women you wanted? Same men:....Why would we do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:12 PM
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So you want men to be fake and hide who they are? See how your immediate response was lying instead of improvement and compromise. You're proving men aren't really desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:09 PM
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You do realize most men have paid premium, From the two dating experiments I have seen, they never mentioned that they did. So can you please show me guys doing a boost and still getting no matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:09 PM
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Wanting a partner with one singular similar hobby is extreme pickiness? If you're actually desperate, you dont have that luxury. So you're proving these guys aren't that desperate. You guys dont really know what desperate means.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:06 PM
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Ok but that's not relevant to whether or not men receive longer sentences for the same crimes w/same factors as women. But do we look into the method of murder, the motive of the murders, etc? That matters alot with jury and judges. Most of the world does not hold to crude collective guilt enforcement. What does that have to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:05 PM
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Listen if you guys wanna be lazy and do nothing, that's on you, not dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:03 PM
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I mean its pretty much verified to be nearly every women at this point and the app date backs this up as well. Present them. it's both again 90%ish of women's attention goes to the same 10%ish 90% of women YOU WANT goes to the same 10%. Lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:02 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-Rs_YlfWM&t=171s Here's a video on that guy. He say "If you aint into fishing, I dont want you", doesn't sound like a desperate man, now does it? Sounds like a man with options! 33 snakes is excessive, And you dont think that will lower his chances? Really? but I don’t think that’s picky it’s just his own life and hobbies. The vast majority of women are not into fishing and snakes. You guys need to give up with "I'm just a simple guy" bullshit belief. He's picky…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:00 PM
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everbody can make a fake acc with some unknow male model Most of you will never be Chad. Stop trying to act like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:54 PM
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How is that him being picky? He literally wrote on his profile he only wants a woman that goes fishing. He has 33 snakes, so he's looking for a woman okay with. Either way singular examples don’t prove anything for the collective. Guy spent 6 months on Hinge and didn't realize that setting his preference to short term is not appealing to most women, especially on Hinge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3d4rWHrR_Y&t=863s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:52 PM
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and how the suppose the other bottom 90% of guys do with the 10% of women not sharing Chad then. That says alot about the types of women you want. Lower your standards. There competition to the average guy due to the sheer number of volume of women that there taking. So it has nothing to do with Chad, it's the gender imbalance in in dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:49 PM
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So to just constantly punt to 'what about this other aggravating factor that I assert (without evidence) that men do worse' Men are actually more prone to violence and women are more prone to poison. This has actually been documented. Just like most serial killers are men, at a 85 to 90% rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:47 PM
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from what I seen online alot of these men swipe yes on damn near every profile and claim they get no matches. Again, we saw this with the guy who swiped on 2 million women and he only got 1 date. Looking at his profile, turns out he was picky. His desperation was a result of his pickiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:44 PM
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Nope I’m saying that as long as chads are on the apps Chad is not your competition unless you make him so. So arrogant and narcissistic for subpar/ mediocre men to compare themselves to a man that actually have pretty privilege. Humble yourselves, your "competition" is other average men. Stop chasing what Chad gets, she's clearly out your league if she's getting Chad's attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:40 PM
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I don’t think they were just born with delusional concepts in their minds. Usually they were coddled during childhood. Women don’t have issues attracting random men typically Irrelevant to the conversation unless this is really just bitterness and envy from these men, not that they're getting no luck. There very well may be men who are not desperate on the apps Most guys aren't. Even the "desperate ones" are just picky and mad that's not working out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:37 PM
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This is putting more excuses Then go do your own experiment and get the account VERIFIED. Most people do generic things, So they're doing nothing to stand out as well as not getting their account verified. Well, it's even easier for you to prove all of us wrong Yes, because I have the links. She admits she mostly spend the week posing as a man swipe on the hottest women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw&t=709s He set on his profile that he's looking for Short term: https://www.youtube…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:35 PM
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It’s how alot of people think nowadays, There's alot of terrible people. That has nothing to do with dating apps. They're just terrible people. there are still good men though social media has corrupted so many that they genuinely think it’s about ‘Nice’ vs Mean/Manipulative. They were never good. That's what they tell themselves to not admit they're terrible human beings too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:25 PM
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This argument completely dies off when he point out there they are tons of dating app experiments where a women manages a men’s profile, takes new pictures rewrites the bio and STILL cant get matches. Link them. I want to see those profiles. coincidentally we also have experiments where where someone grabs a few random photos of Chad MOST OF YOU ARE NOT CHAD. Stop thinking you can act like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:24 PM
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That’s all mostly irrelevant as long as the guy is also completely with chads on the app. Most guys aren't Chads, though. You're just proving my point that guys here actually mad they dont merely exist and people worship them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:10 PM
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I wish they would stop being fake and using one of the two manipulative extremes, for the sake of women.Alot think Vulnerability is weakness so much that they refuse to even be themselves, kind of sad honestly. If that's how they think, themselves are terrible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:09 PM
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Installing the app takes effort, That is what a lazy person says. making a profile takes effort, You have to ACTUALLY make a profile and not add in generic shit in it. Hell, alot of guys just leave it blank or say "just chat and find out". the problem here treating date like meritocracy and if you don't get matches is because you don't put enough effort, Of the three experiments showing "men have a hard time dating" they were all picky. What's this supposed to convey? Pay so the algorithm can pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:08 PM
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Being ‘nice’ doesn’t work Women have never told men being nice would get them rewarded with pussy. They learnt that through media made by men for male consumption. they failed to use banter, Failing to holding a conversation is a big problem that goes beyond dating. Overpraising and walking on eggshells So being fake? They're desperate because they're not likable. That has nothing to do with being on a dating app. They're not likable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:03 PM
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Most guys don’t know a damn thing though and just want an ego boost for their insecurities So they’re not desperate. They’re validation seekers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:56 PM
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You know how many users have premium accounts in dating apps like tinder? Around 13% to 15% And? Do you guys want results, or do you want something to bitch about? Saying that guys struggle with matches because they don't pay for premium If you guys were actually desperate for matches, you would put in the effort. But instead, you guys are lazy. You have done nothing and nothing has worked, so then you go to blame society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:52 PM
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Also either they are desperate, They won’t claim their desperate, they’re not actually desperate. Just that they’re pickiness causes them to be desperate. Women subconsciously know this There are plenty of women desperate for love. The problem is the desperate guy has to actually want to be on the date and not act bitter about it, Unless they find a profile that heavily peaks their interest So these men are being boring and generic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:50 PM
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You're trying to deny my experience by saying I got no swipe right because I was picky Seems weird that you’re implying you only got scammers to like your profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:48 PM
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Most men are on dating apps out of desperation Then why are they still picky? I’ve seen three dating experiments to prove “it’s super hard for a man to be on a dating app”, all three experiments showed the guy is being picky. One experiment the guy wanted something short term, open to long-term. One guy swiped on 2 million women, and is dating profile basically says he’s looking for a woman to fish with him and be OK with the fact he had 33 snakes. One experiment was done by a girl pretending to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:44 PM
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I showed you why men don’t get matches. If you’re not gonna put in the effort to write it out, I’m not gonna put in the effort to read. Most men on dating apps are there because they either can’t attract women naturally WHO CARES?! There’s women on the apps. Most women don’t have issues attracting random men, So this is just you guys upset you have to put in more effort into dating. You guys are mad that you don’t have the pretty privilege to do nothing and get results. Men aren’t doing that bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:40 PM
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As for boosting however, as someone who has been doing this shit for 8 years now, boosting is only effective if you’re new to an area You act as if there aren’t new users coming on or newly single people coming back onto the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:37 PM
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Well no I don't, they're very recognizable and they actually use picture of these extremely uncanny looking chinese women. So you only noticed them when they steal the pictures of Asian women. So I'll assume you meant "you only see scammers because you swipe only on very attractive women". It's the only way your comment makes any sense. And yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:35 PM
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You act like women and men have identical dating lives The complaint is that men get barely any matches. I’m saying that comes from the fact that they do very little outside of posting pictures and not understanding. They don’t have the pretty privilege to only close by with their looks. They actually have to put some effort into getting success.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:34 PM
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Clearly, having no matches doesn’t bother you guys when you do nothing to try to increase your matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:30 PM
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You guys, that mindset doesn’t work when there’s also women on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:29 PM
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The problem is scammers only steal the pictures of very attractive women…..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:25 PM
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Then link me where they did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:23 PM
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Everything BUT putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:23 PM
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Those men can write a thoughtful, witty profile that never gets seen. You say that, but has there ever been a dating experience where the guy’s profile was actually thoughtful, with no red flags, and says they want a relationship? aren't apps set up so you don't see the profile until after you've seen the picture? You CAN if you want to. That’s the problem with guys leaving empty profiles, so then they’re relying even more on their pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:16 PM
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It's just a simple tinder experiment as an average Not having a verified account will automatically getting (basically) blocked by alot of verified accounts. If guys want match is so bad, why would you do things to decrease the chances of people liking your account?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:14 PM
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Having to pay money for the chance of finding a relationship is some sort of humiliation ritual for everyone involved Not me. I’ve used the boost several times being single and my matches increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:09 PM
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It’s all been debunked. When has this been debunked?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:08 PM
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If you really want to prove something there's nothing stopping you from doing one How am I suppose to get a verified account as a man when I am a cis woman? What's the point of this post? That you guys intentionally ignore multiple factors. Which implies dating apps are that bad You guys are just lazy and cant accept you dont have pretty privlege.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:07 PM
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No it’s that pretty privilege is rea Most of you dont have it, so stop behaving like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:59 PM
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But is it gonna give you method, motive, and relationship to victim? A woman who killed her boyfriend for giving her an STD that led to her miscarriage is not the same as a man who killed someone for fun. Same thing when it comes to poisoning versus chopping somebody up premortem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:55 PM
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What are they calling offense type?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:44 PM
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The reason why I’m skeptical about the differences in sentencing is that we don’t really see the details of these cases. For example, how a murder is carried out, and the motive behind the murder is going to affect sentencing, even though both of them are considered murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:30 PM
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If you’re talking online dating Then it’s not that guys aren’t given an opportunity, they’re making really bad first impressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:28 PM
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Guys, if you can’t verify your account, you’re going to be more ignored. Also, do you guys even boost your account?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:27 PM
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Guys, you have also showed me other dating experiments, and the typical problem is that the experimenters were being picky. Could you guys show me someone doing a dating experiment showing how hard it is to date as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:26 PM
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Its obvious nobody wants to talk to ugly people male or female If they don’t even wanna talk to you on the Internet, where you don’t have to show their face if you don’t want to, they’re definitely the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:25 PM
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because i have done it. Post pictures of the profile, let me see if you were verified. And did you boost your account? And lets see all the conservations you had while censoring the more sensitive information. Yeah, 10x zero is still 0 None of the experiments I have seen done ever said they had zero matches, so I’m not sure where you’re getting that from. Even the guy who stripped 2 million times got 1269 women to talk to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:13 PM
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BECAUSE YOU ARE A WOMAN. My quantity increased after I got my account boosted, because that’s typically what dating apps will do in exchange of you giving them money. Also, being verified lets more people trust your account so they don’t think your account is fake. You guys want to complain about not doing well, but you do nothing to do well. You’re just mad you don’t merely exist and 100 people want you immediately. Figure it out man, you're smart Why can’t you do it? You’re a guy and you can g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:41 PM
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Its always something with you You’re upset I told you factors that would heavily affect your dating experience on apps? and i promise you, being verified and paying money make practically no difference I’m verified and I have paid money to boost my account, it made a world of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:59 PM
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A few people asked you to make a profile I would have no way to verify the account, and I’m not willing to spend the money to boost the account, so that will have a massive effect on my matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:57 PM
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When they’re the ones bitching the most about dating, yes. We’re gonna criticize them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:53 PM
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Only if youre foolish enough to go for the most punishable crimes Yeah, most felons are horrible people. while elon musk has committed enough crimes Is there proof? Regardless of money, America is still innocent until proven guilty. Also, Musk’s stock TANKED after working with Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:51 PM
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I would have no way to verify the account, which would heavily affect the results. As well as I’m not willing to spend money for this experiment, which would help boost my account to get more matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:50 PM
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She fails to show her actual dating profile, omits the vast majority of her conversations, particularly hiding the interactions where she was successful. Also, provides no verification of whether the account was verified. Does tender give people the option to verify that they’re not making a fake account? It does Tinder give people the option to only talk to people who have verified their account? She actively ruins her own data pool by getting picky, abandoning her initial broader approach to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:32 PM
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To summarize: She fails to show her actual dating profile, omits the vast majority of her conversations, particularly hiding the interactions where she was successful. Also, provides no verification of whether the account was verified. Does tender give people the option to verify that they’re not making a fake account? It does Tinder give people the option to only talk to people who have verified their account? She actively ruins her own data pool by getting picky, abandoning her initial broader…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:32 PM
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First of all, I just showed you men also not being sympathetic to male struggles. So it simply just you don’t like it when people don’t coddle certain men. 1:30 “Youre attractive” his hair looks like a toupee, so I’m already not trusting this woman’s judgment. I’m gonna have to see what type of photos of his she’s using because that hairstyle is not doing him favors. 4:10 she also gave him a generic ass profile, according to her, so I wouldn’t be impressed by that either. Also, she didn’t show u…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:13 PM
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Cheating, chronic unemployment, or alcoholism is acceptable Sounds like living in the ghetto. Most people arent ghetto.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:17 PM
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You conveniently ignore all the life advantages that being a horrible person brings Like going to jail and being ostracized by society? To be an entertainer requires being self centered with some hindered empathy And then going to jail and/or having a ruined career?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:14 PM
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Unless we’re talking about a birthday fact, the problem with looks is entirely a choice by people. In America, it’s usually obesity. But thing is, most Americans are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:11 PM
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But for those who have yet to find their people? As an adult, especially with the Internet, it shouldn’t be that hard to find your people. The difference between those two groups is timing, The excuse cannot be blaming timing forever, especially when someone’s an adult with internet access.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:07 PM
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So suddenly, the male experience doesn’t count what even other men see a guy being the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:04 PM
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literally a guy... not every guy. And even other guys said dating’s not that bad. Even this guy wouldnt be considered conventionally attractive and he’s saying its not hard to date: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtHXAB/ Instead of bitching that we are so bad without actually helping Theyre giving criticism and I did too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:00 PM
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The way you speak is like "if you have a problem then you are the problem If basically every one likes him less than bigots and Trump, he’s the problem. I'm pretty sure more people that likes Trump than you I also have people who like me, so……
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:23 PM
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And there is nothing chosen about a shy or autistic man having trouble in social situations Shy as in he’s doing nothing to get the opportunity to know people? Also, if other autistic people dont like him either…..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:21 PM
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Guys claim “dating is a numbers game” but they’re losing. And this tinder profile proves the problem: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtQhRn/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtPuM2/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtQwkL/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCt4ENK/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtgMjD/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtQhRn/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtHXAB/ To explain to people with no tiktok. A man swiped on 2 million women and only got one date out of it and it was not a successful one. how many tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:07 PM
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You think bigots don't have friends? So what the fuck are y’all doing where youre liked than bigots? The US elected as president the biggest of them all. Imagine being less liked than TRUMP and thinking everyone else is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:04 PM
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A funny, kind person in the wrong environment can struggle socially Furries have found a great solution to that problem. The internet. How do you think theyre finding people for their conventions? An obnoxious but charismatic person in the right environment can thrive. If theyre obnoxious then theyre not charismatic. They just found other people to be obnoxious with. If anything, that strengthens my point. Shitty people can find other shitty people to befriend, but a good person cant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:00 PM
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Not birth defects, the average male experience on dating apps. So they are given a chance, it’s just their profile is bad. Typically, they’re too picky, they’re giving off red flags, their pictures are atrocious, and/or they’re looking for something casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:52 PM
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Not birth defects, the average male experience on dating apps. So they are given a chance, it’s just their profile is bad. Typically, they’re too picky, they’re giving off red flags, their pictures are atrocious, and/or they’re looking for something casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:52 PM
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That’s usually said by people who wanna keep being assholes and are upset they don’t have the looks or status to convince people to put up with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:49 PM
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Try. it. See how quickly you ignore what women say when you dont like it? How about you show me a dating experiment where the guy wasn't the problem? Im waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:46 PM
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So are you talking about birth defects?Otherwise, we live in the current year where people can dress up like animals and think really creepy thoughts about animals but can find like minded people and create communities from it. Like, what is a person doing to where they’re less accepted than people who wanna fuck the characters from Zootopia?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:43 PM
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We live in the current year where people can dress up like furries and go to conventions to fuck each other, but a person literally can’t find anyone to want to be around them? And I’m supposed to believe it’s not their fault? And I really wish we would stop pretending confidence is so important, I definitely know people who aren’t confident and make friends. It’s called being likable. Seriously, have you guys never met someone who was confident, insufferable and dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:38 PM
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Its bold making this claim while never having experienced it from the other side Because I give good first impressions, so people like to get to know me more. I'd genuinely love for women to get the standard dating app experience a majority of men get. So guys are given a chance, they’re just making bad first impressions on their profile. On a dating app of your choice, set up an account as a guy, I’ve seen two dating experiments from the guy’s perspective, and it’s definitely the problem with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:35 PM
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its mostly true, scoring sufficiently in looks and status When you have a shit personality, looks and status are very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:32 PM
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That's acting like people can't be indoctrinated to hate a specific kind of people So no one wants to be around them because they’re bigots? Where I live I'm a minority Are you literally the only one? Do you not know anyone on the Internet? Who’s just like you? Everytime I see people shit on specific physical traits So you ARE talking about birth defects. People on the Internet don’t care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:31 PM
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Wouldn't this also include autistic men who are great people but just shy? Then it’s not that no one gives them the opportunity. They don’t give themselves the opportunity. And also men who aren't attractive enough to make it on dating apps? So a birth defect? And also men who leave women alone and don't get approached? Then it’s not that no one gives them the opportunity. They don’t give themselves the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:29 PM
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I came here to say I legit do not care, and that’s all I’m going to say about it. If you guys want to look like creeps or losers, that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:24 PM
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If you want him to earn it via "having a good personality" or something, that sounds like a worse precedent That says alot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:40 PM
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A guy swiped on 2 millions women and it resulted in 1 unsuccessful first date. When looking at his profile, he had a sweater saying "Sit On My Face", said he's only looking for a fishing buddy, and that he has over 30 snakes. At what point can it just be the guy's fault? People are pretty closed off, and to make friends let alone start to date from 0 is kind of hard See the reason why I dont believe that is because I have a friend that makes lots of friends because she's so friendly. But also a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:39 PM
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If she was a judge women’s conviction rates would fall to 0% Pretty sure you wrote something about me doing straw man or something while you're doing the same thing. But whatever, I stopped caring about your responses a while ago. I just wanted to explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:32 PM
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What evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:30 PM
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Theres literally already studies that say good looking people are automatically percieved to be good people If you're using that as an excuse to never be a good person, that's on you. Dude these people arent even open to the possibility of it being more nuanced than their perfectly binary little worldviews. That's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:29 PM
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It is not enough anymore in a world with dating apps. Then you were definitely given a chance to impress. You didn't gave a bad first impression. Even the got that swiped two million times had a bad profile. And even when he got the chance to chat with 1269 women, he turned only 1 into a first date that went nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:28 PM
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Men being more prone to radicalization is a societal problem, explaining the conversations get more geared towards men, which was the point of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:15 PM
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I once told someone, "The hardest part about dating is getting TO the date." Then they did get a chance. They just failed at a first impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:05 PM
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Really says alot about you when that's the only other thing you can think up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:04 PM
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Your entire world view is based on what men say on this sub? Did I say that? do you ever consider the value you bring to others? I answered your question: I dont bitch and blame other people for my problems, so why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:03 PM
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Before they're doing something? So. is he not trying to interact with people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:57 PM
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It's almost nothing but women doing it https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUrDRq/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUYvjn/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEU82XR/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUYreQ/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUFr2U/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEU8JXv/ I have plenty more to show.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:53 PM
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And then they stop having casual sex because they realize it wasn't for them. You guys overestimate the amount of women who enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:51 PM
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Someone can be perfectly average If they're overlooked while average looking, they're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:48 PM
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Remember, it wasn't men who wrote 50 Shades of Grey Christian Grey is a hot rich CEO that stalks a random reporter chick. If you guys are just gonna lie like this, this conversation is over. Also, thank you for the greatest proof that men will very much lie to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:42 PM
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You seem to disbelieve me whenever I say every human, without exception, You're trying to pivot the argument towards your opinion. We already established most people will never agree with you, so I dont know why you always want to bring it back to that. You belief is why I say to becomes entitlement and lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:40 PM
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Explain how they're progressive. What makes them progressive? Because I notice once we get into definitions, you guys typically mislabel things on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:38 PM
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Ironic, when you don't want to listen to the men who disagree with you either. I do. You guys conflate listen to with "agree and pity". You find the men who are an outlier, an extreme, That's the typical guy that brings up Male Loneliness Epidemic, as mentioned by the guys in those tiktoks. Also, I did a post here and plenty of men implied that men will get hostile with society when they dont get their way. And at some point multiple people thought Dungeons and Dragons was a satanic cult A coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:34 PM
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Personality is so subjective If it's to the point he complains about no one liking him, that tells you he's the problem. Personality is a lot like humor. If people collectively dont laugh, then you're not funny. the problem is while conflict will filter out incompatible people, being a doormat is fertile ground for a lot of very weak/shallow antiquates. The false dichotomy you guys come up with instead of admitting being an asshole is problem is extremely telling. It's very obvious you guys want…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:29 PM
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What's unfair is that men have to bring a bunch of "value" to the table (good looks, money, Height, Athletic build, status, personality, confidence). Lower your standards,. If you have to bring all of that to a date, you're chasing Stacy. Meanwhile a women don't need to bring anything to the table most time Because you're chasing Stacy. I shouldn't have to be a Top Tier man just to feel loved. Because you're chasing Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:24 PM
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Says alot that the only thing you value is money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:22 PM
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Because society has much lower social standards for women Then we would have definitely seen a female version of Tate be even MORE POPULAR than Tate. aren't as prone to radicalization. Congratulations. You just explained why people specifically focus on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:21 PM
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Okay, and? He's not the only one to do that. Exactly, plenty of men criticize this Male Loneliness Epidemic topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:20 PM
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Guys are constantly being told that they're the ones that need to examine the value they bring to the relationship, It seems like alot of them aren't listening and join manosphere groups. with women saying that they should basically be able to just 'show up'. That says alot about the types of women you guys are willing to entertain, most likely conventionally attractive women or women willing to do hookups. Charlie Sheen had people looking away from the bad things he did because he was good look…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:18 PM
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Yes, because women are eager to weaponize it. First of all, the mayor of New York is a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:15 PM
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So tiktok is a valid source of news America considers CNN as a valid source of news. Listen you guys trying to come up with random reasons to deny male loneliness got into the mainstream will not change what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:15 PM
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I do not worship politicians. That has nothing to do with the conversation. I know you guys are upset that alot of dumbasses gave people a reason to criticize incels and the manosphere but making up reasons to argue will not change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:14 PM
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and the guardian is not mainstream? Compared to CNN, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:12 PM
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.....Listen, if you're not gonna read what I wrote, I am not gonna waste my time. The male loneliness epidemic has hit mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:11 PM
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OK, a lot of women are fake. Stop going after shallow fake stupid women if you don’t like them so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:54 PM
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That doesn't really follow. Someone can have plenty to offer and still struggle if they're consistently overlooked because of physical attraction. So they look like the hunchback of Notre Dame, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:45 PM
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No one cares that you guys want shallow women. Just leave everyone else out of your taste in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:40 PM
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Who cares? Is he Jesus? He’s the mayor of America’s most populated city. Him referencing that means a lot more than some random articles that people don’t really care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:39 PM
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What do you mean? Plenty of losers have dads, they’re just not good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:37 PM
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Saying that when a man is not impressive, personality matters means that if he is actually impressive He can get shallow women, which you guys seem to actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:37 PM
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You mean women who are stupid and don’t have morals? Confidence only works if people don’t think you’re awful and they don’t think you’re stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:36 PM
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The vast majority of humans prioritize appearance before anything else Like baseline attraction, which guys here hate hearing because they want their looks to do all the work for them Listen, if you want to blame everything on your genetics and never your behavior, go ahead. But that’s not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:31 PM
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I didnt. You guys just want to believe most women are shallow because it justifies guys that are always wanting shallow women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:16 PM
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I didnt. You guys just want to believe most qomen are shallow because it justifies you guys always wanting shallow women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:14 PM
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Most people aren't particularly adept at recognizing systems of oppression Are you seriously making this argument for bigots and people who commit CSA? should be capable of recognizing the way their arguments reinforce hierarchical thinking. Most people are fine with bigots and abusers being at the bottom. Designating an outgroup is an antifeminist strategy The MeToo movement proves that its not,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:13 PM
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Are you guys surprised shallow people exist? Okay? Did you want to date those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:10 PM
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But if they were, But most aren’t, so why is this a discussion? not exactly a confirmation of the primacy of personality. It is, because most of you aren’t special enough to be an exception to that rule
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:24 PM
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Everyone has a right to react to their problems however they want That attitude is precisely why multiple governments declare incels as a national threat. need to interrogate the idea that it is entitled to believe in inherent human worth That is under the assumption they have done nothing wrong. because on the other side of that belief is the justification that it's okay do dehumanize people People do with the people like Epstein and bigots all the time. No one really cares. That's the same log…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:21 PM
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Most of you aren’t impressive, So personality matters a lot for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:16 PM
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You yourself said that “when you’re not impressive, personality matters a lot.” Doesn’t that imply that if you’re impressive But most of you aren’t impressive, so that’s irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:14 PM
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I was confused as to why men were being singled out for this. Because theyre hypocrites who project,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:13 PM
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But it’s such a gender neutral thing Not according to guys here. Do you ever stop to think what value you bring to others? I dont bitch and blame other people for my problems, so why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:12 PM
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That’s a massive red flag if people literally don’t want to spend a single second wanting to know a person. That’s the type of thing I hear from a guy who’s masturbating in public or having some sort of mental breakdown that gets reported to the authorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:10 PM
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Meanwhile women call out men that go abroad And? Most men don't have access to 4B women And? What is the argument here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:09 PM
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A New York mayor addressed Male Loneliness: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSooJyDm/ CNN even addressed it: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSoEWuwp/ The male loneliness epidemic has hit mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:07 PM
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I don’t know where you’re getting this belief from that women are putting up with awfulness for sex like men are. Women don’t even orgasm at the same rate men do, so to think we’re going to put up with an asshole who most likely isn’t making sex feel good is fucking hilarious. Getting dick is not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:01 PM
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It is a behavioural problem but it doesn’t make one single if there hot and/or successful you even pointed this out yourself That is irrelevant to most of you because of you will never get that type of value. That’s all I’m going to say at this point, because I’m getting tired of having to say the same thing over and over again in this same argument. I don’t give a fuck if you want to blame the blue pill or whatever the fuck reason. That is irrelevant, most of you don’t have the value for your p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:52 PM
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Every time we converse, you seem possessed by the idea that whiners are subhuman scum They're usually bigots, so yes. That's not taking accountability for failure It is. You have no right to be a bigot, especially over your own problems. It's a derivative position from your idea that not everyone is worthy of love or respect, It's a sense of entitlement to think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:07 PM
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The thing is, you could easily mirror this in the opposite gender When it comes to this sub, not really. Women dont tolerate awfulness for sex like they do. And everyone knows gold diggers exists, but guys here dont want to spend the money. They are willing to tolerate someone they don't like for sex and money, and wish men felt the same way. I know that's a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:04 PM
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Assertiveness and confidence dont mean much if women see you like Belle saw Gaston. Also, a guy has to ACTUALLY BE KIND, not just claim he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:03 PM
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Charlie Sheen’s example does show that personality is not the most important thing as it often said to be. Because his talent gave people more money. What? Are you making other people more money? men calling out women for often caring much less about personality Hypocrisy because those guys dont care about personality, that's why they're only around women who also dont care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:27 PM
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Do you know what a Motte and Bailey defense is? Every time we converse, it typically ends with people are suppose to coddle whiners who wont do a damn thing to fix their issues. Because I didn't say accountability was the problem, You're calling it anti-feminist. Every time I bring up accountability, you always want to argue about it. I said that demanding everyone consider what value they bring to their relationships is problematic. Not only accountability issue but also a sense of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:26 PM
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and people don’t have set “value” - that’s all up to the beholder. If everyone smells like shit, check your shoe. If these guys weren't the problem, they wouldn't be complaining about little success they're having or how every woman they know is shit.. you can’t just say “women are more valuable I didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:24 PM
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Correct and if you don’t bring value elsewhere then no one gives a shit about your personality in the first place. y He was a drug addicted jackass. If you think that's not a personality problem, then it is certainly a behavioral problem. when the hot asshole somehow is never single Because shallow women want him. You wanting shallow women is a personal problem. unimpressive men with great personalities are usually the guys lining up to be the beta sometime in the future. So it's not that they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:21 PM
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I said your solution was anti-feminist. Claiming something is anti-feminist because it involves male accountability is not gonna work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:17 PM
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I have heard women talk like that...they're conventionally attractive and always popular with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:15 PM
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I think your post would have more of an impact if it was gender neutral. I've never seen Female Loneliness Epidemic being talked about in the news. I have never heard women make a female equivalent of Andrew Tate popular. I haven't seen women making society their enemy based on their dating life being unsuccessful. Also, this sub is filled with men being hypocritical and projecting their own problems onto others. If they can't handle being called out, oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:14 PM
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The fact is there are tons of these women Because there's 4 billion females. If you want the fake shallow ones, THAT IS ON YOU. that’s who many of them are left with, That means he's low value himself and the women who aren't fake and shallow dont want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:10 PM
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Nothing like advocating for gender equality by making everyone insecure about their worth as a person. If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoe. If guys are gonna bitch so much about being lonely and how it's some epidemic, some people are gonna look into it. It's not our problem idiots wanted to cry about how lonely they are and people didn't merely respond with pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:09 PM
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Guys, the gender who succesfully cracked down on sexy fictional women in media feels like they're under attack for having "preferences" They didn't crack down. They just stopped catering to men who think with their dicks 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:07 PM
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Maybe OP should've clarified her definition of "dating" because apparently it seems to be a difficult concept. It's difficult because they dont like admitting they bring nothing of value and will do nothing to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:05 PM
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Is that what men bring to the table in dating? That's why they bring to the table and thats why they're mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:05 PM
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The genesis of this whole debate is women downplaying the extent to which some women tolerate behavior which they explicitly verbalize having standards against Who CARES? Why would you want those women? Why are you guys so obsessed with fake women? Why do you want them? Is is because they're extremely attractive? So yes, personality matters, but not as much as women pretend it does, Sounds more like you and the other guys here really have a thing for shallow fake fickle women. That's a personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:03 PM
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That men do this more? They PRETEND they dont. Like with bitching about women only wanting Chad, it's obvious those same guys are chasing Stacy. They just pretend Stacy is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:01 PM
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Is this not applicable to when like the most mid woman you have ever met in your life only wants a 666 dude? The only women I have ever seen claim shit like that are conventionally attractive. It's just guys here personally dont think they're hot. Every time guys here show me women being shallow and mean to men not in their preferences, those women are definitely not average looking/ For example, a guy here showed me this video seeing how mean women are to short men. All those women are conventi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:00 PM
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This is exactly the exact same situation that men are finding themselves in, when they say that dating is just not worth it. Then they can stop complaining about a Male Loneliness Epidemic and stop influencing incels to think everyone else is being mean and cruel to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:56 PM
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Women spent the better part of the last two decades bitterly complaining about male preferences This is how men here think is okay to act when a woman doesn't fit their preference: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_ke-Ep2Gu1E
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:55 PM
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Like yeah, duh, everyone knows this. They certainly dont act like they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:50 PM
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The reason why I made it more about guys because guys have been more loud about this issue than women, even getting national news attention about the Male Loneliness Epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:50 PM
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You're arguing against a position very few people actually hold Yeah, the redpill, which most men dont like either. You also keep switching between casual sex and relationships as if they're the same thing No, I didn’t. The red pill does that, which is why they’re constantly confused. The biggest issue is the assumption that men "have nothing of value." A lot of men don’t have anything of value, that’s why they’re complaining that they’re always alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:48 PM
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You mean the overwhelming evidence everywhere in society where every single story about love is basically how the hero is a great guy who slays the dragon and gets the girl? You mean the media MADE BY MEN for male consumption? So women didn’t lie to men, it’s you guys lying to each other. You talked about the average man, most men don’t bitch about these things. The average man isn’t going around blaming women for a belief from FICTION MADE BY MEN. The evidence where women continually say they j…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:00 PM
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You can always find exceptions to everything. The question is then, are the experiences of the men you liked, representative of the experiences of the average man? And the answer is, no, they're not. And there it is. It’s not that you want people to listen to men, is that you want people to listen to the men that agrees with you. You can keep picking all the exceptions you like Those guys don’t complain about this shit. And most guys in the west think the red pill and their beliefs are stupid an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:51 PM
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Because if you want men to listen to women's lived experiences, then women are going to have to start listening to men's lived experiences too. Do you still have that same attitude when this is what guys are saying about men’s dating problems? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUrDRq/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUYvjn/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEU82XR/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUYreQ/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUFr2U/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEU8JXv/ Do their experiences count?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:25 AM
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They think her very presence was rude, not understanding how bigoted that sounds https://youtube.com/shorts/_ke-Ep2Gu1E?si=EMjB3p7TIL2RxqXr But you making the jump from "well I showed this video to guys online" to"therefore men have tons of options on dating" They just fuck it up because they’re assholes. Look, do you want men to listen to women's lived experiences Guys here swear that women told them being nice would get them laid, and I’m still waiting for that evidence. Guys here have claimed…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:06 AM
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Men do not have that luxury You say that, but guys here certainly act like they have options. For example, I showed a video of a guy on a dating show who ruined his dating chances because he was rude to one of the contestants. Five out of seven remaining women immediately rejected him. Most guys here saw absolutely nothing wrong with what the guy did. So clearly guys do have that luxury, they just blame everyone else for the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:21 PM
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I already did You didn’t and you’re never going to because I didn’t say it. That’s why all you did was copy and paste my post without actually pointing to the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:18 PM
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Right its multiple paragraphs of you acting like all men are assholes Where did I say this? You can’t even point to where I said this because I never said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:00 PM
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That’s not a paragraph, and if you don’t know the difference between paragraphs and paragraph, then you can’t be trusted to actually know what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:57 PM
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you are strange Imagine calling it strange that most women don’t have the survival instincts of a toddler, unlike the women you’re describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:50 PM
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So women should never hookup with guys is your opinion? If they’re doing what you’re implying, they’re doing, absolutely. They’re stupid. They’re like that girl trying to go to Afghanistan to marry a guy. She never met in person. They’re that stupid. Women shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions Like with cave divers, they could be allowed to make their stupid decisions. They’re still stupid decisions. they should just stay at home all the time so no men can kidnap If they’re doing what…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:45 PM
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Copy and paste specifically where I said it. Copy and paste that paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:43 PM
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all women must be stupid and shallow all the time The ones you know definitely are. you must have never liked someone for their looks Thats shallow. How dare you ever take any risks That’s stupid. decided to drive to work? You’re comparing that to a woman who’s willing to be alone with a guy, walk alone at night, and give a guy your address telling him when she’s home alone? for women who casually hook up on a regular basis Alot of them are stupid and shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:34 PM
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You do it by constantly saying you only meet asshole men How does my post prove your claim. I dont see what you claim I made that claim ANYWHERE.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:31 PM
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Again women more often then not don't view it this way The women doing the activity clearly don’t give a fuck. And that makes her valuable to men. Plenty of sluts get married. It just depends on their standards and their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:26 PM
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OK, then you do it. what’s supposed to be the proper way of doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:23 PM
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Where have I said that? I don’t remember saying that?. Find where I said that since apparently you know that more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:23 PM
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To say the talking points you're using are mainly online just like the ones you find in incel culture? So you were just going to ignore what I said about older women constantly saying the same thing to younger women? Really doesn’t sound like you wanna be logical whatsoever. This is definitely you being emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:22 PM
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Let me do the longer version of what I said: Looking in my circles i know these women are not shallow, fickle, and stupid... but when it comes to hookups and quick flings they are willing to be significantly more superficia “Theyre not shallow…..but they're shallow”. Then your point falls apart, most women who have casual sex are these types of women Most women dont have casual sex like that. In fact, they seldom like it enough to repeat it. You can't do anything in life unless you take a little…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:21 PM
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Looking in my circles i know these women are not shallow, fickle, and stupid... but when it comes to hookups and quick flings they are willing to be significantly more superficial Not only did you describe them as shallow, they’re clearly stupid if they blindly trust a guy just because he’s hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:09 PM
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You mean generalizing an entire group I already addressed this in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:07 PM
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Elaborate then,. How do I do that? Or that you guys just don’t like I’m constantly criticizing shitty men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:06 PM
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Nope, you're making weird terminally online You just insulted me without any explanation why you would accuse me of that. That sounds quite emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:05 PM
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This is the most overused phrase Facts don’t stop being facts just because you don’t like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:05 PM
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They already do blindly trust men they dont know if they are attractive enough Its not a coincidence everytime you guys talk about women, she’s always shallow, fickle, and stupid. what world are you living in where that doesn't happen? Safety has always been a massive concern with women. Just because you only surround yourselves with women who have the survival skills of a toddler doesn’t mean that’s the average woman. how are they consistently getting with such awful guys You seem to be the one…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:59 PM
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Why is the fact that chad will have sex with average to below average women and not offer commitment seen as a crazy revelation then? Right, why is that a surprise to you? What you guys don’t like to hear is that it shows those women have alot of valuable, typically because women are not in to hook ups like that. Because if enough women were into hookups, Chad would not need to lower his looks standards. They’re valuable because they’re willing to do what most women aren’t willing to do, which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:51 PM
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No, and i don't either but, at some point you have to take some risk with people Sounds like you are saying women should just blindly trust a guy they don’t know. Otherwise, it makes the man feel bad about himself. Then i started actually going out and Unless you’ve known this person prior to dating, casual usually means you barely know them and you’re looking for something short term. So thinking you’re going to get casual sex just because most men aren’t terrible people is really stupid. Then …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:42 PM
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Correlation does not equal causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:39 PM
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Yet, they persist in an activity I don’t know why you guys keep confusing some women with all women and it’s really weird
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:38 PM
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the women in question doesn't want other men though that's below her worth Why are you guys treating obvious facts as a new revelation you came up with? so she wants Chad You guys only being around women who want Chad is your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:38 PM
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I know there won't be any reasonable or cohesive response All you have been doing is responding very emotional to me, including trying to insult me instead of actually debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:35 PM
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You guys are calling me terminally online over things women have been saying for generations. It’s like calling Elon Muk an incel. If you’re going to insult people, you have to actually make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:35 PM
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a minority of people So are rapists and murderers, so do you think women should leave their cups unattended, walk alone at night, and tells guys their address and when theyre home alone? If you are getting subpar sex For women that’s 33% of casual sex resulting orgasm. Getting emotional over the fact that women aren’t going to keep going through a bad deal is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:11 PM
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Yeah you're parroting old talking points Oh no! Someone’s repeating facts! I'm not defensive You are giving me emotional responses over me giving facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:41 PM
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Correlation does not equal causation. And I also even brought up the right wing men who aren’t doing well are typically not religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:38 PM
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Not just my experiences and that of many sexually active people who don't go by stereotypes of "women hate sex" You know, it would help to actually read my post instead of getting offended that I said most women don’t have a good time when it comes to casual sex. And not really Youre acting oddly defensive about it, especially over shit I didn’t say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:37 PM
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Nope, you're making weird terminally online talking points. Its weird you think this is some online problem and not a problem throughout generations, even though older women have constantly warned the younger generation about these things. When did this topic become terminally online? Please elaborate. I have a negative orgasm gap and I get women off more than vise versa so most of them So this is an emotional response to me, saying most men suck in bed when it comes to the casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:33 PM
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Damn sounds like you have hang ups about sex It’s so weird seeing you guys get so reactive when any guy gets criticized even when it’s a fair criticism. I have never gotten this way over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:26 PM
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Because theyre more religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:25 PM
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From your post, it is not like the more desirable men appreciate her sexual attention either, How are you defining desirable? Able to have sex isnt really that hard for adults. The guy has to be Quasimoto or have a mental disability for his genetics to be the problem. What you are actually complaining about is that men who you deem unworthy still want sex. May you please copy and paste where I said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:24 PM
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The shittiness is irrelevant You thinking personality isnt a big deal is not reality. A 10/10 guy may treat a 2/10 woman wonderfully yet most likely temporary. If he actually treats her well, then they both agreed it was temporary thing, so who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:11 PM
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By raw numbers conservatives are more married, more reproductive, and happier Because theyre OLDER. They are simply not struggling to anything like the degree left wing men Most young people are liberals,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:09 PM
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Not really the real person with leverage is the one with the least to lose You guys really just don’t like acknowledging the way you find ugly are actually desirable to other men. So now you’re just making up weird definitions of leverage. Oh, the women in question ethier won’t fuck after dates 1-2 Oh, so we’re pretending men dont find women who fuck them by date 2 to be valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:08 PM
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Artificial advantages through the complete educational and early career pipeline and now just drooling in the feeling of superiority. Explain how thats a strawman for me to claim “ Oh no, women have inflated egos for......wanting an educated man with a job! How dare they?!” Whats the difference? That men's preferences are sxstemstically lowered while women's are artificially increased and even encouraged? Are men also focusing on career and education. Because for it to be a double standard, it h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:05 PM

This is why Superman, Star Trek and others are "suddenly" woke I havent seen Star Trek, but I didnt know people were calling the Superman movie woke…outside of Ben Shapiro being a bigot against a certain country in the Middle East.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:03 PM
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I think it comes from narcissism where a lot of men want to have the liberty to treat people like crap and have no consequences. And when there are consequences, they never learned to just stop being a terrible person, they just learned to act like a victim. Why would women want to deal with men at all Alot of guys are cool. You just have to learn to get rid of the crappy ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:00 PM
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…..its called VETTING. And no sex before marriage wasn’t that effective either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:57 PM
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Weird, women get nothing for casual sex but still engage on it Actually reading would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:57 PM
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You need to find better men honestly “Omg you met an asshole?! No one has EVER met assholes before!” That’s a weird position to have, but OK. There are lots of men that would freely give women all the time If you’re not going to read what I wrote, then there’s no point in continuing this conversation. I already addressed this, please actually read.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:56 PM
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Who the hell says men love unconditionally? Men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:22 PM
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You’re rambling about bringing value rather than addressing my point that attempting to lock down someone who has clear leverage over you is delusional. You guys underestimate the type of leverage guys need for women to tolerate being treated like shit. That’s always been my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:35 PM
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Then you should change your post to say, “Women who only want sex have ALOT of value.” Oh, I did talk about how the sexual marketplace was totally fair because men want casual sex more than women. Obviously, that made men here very mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:33 PM
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That leverage men have is exactly the reason women have inflated egos It’s weird that you guys are assuming people want somebody of no value to them. That says a lot about a guy who has nothing of value to other women. No wonder this sub doesn’t like it when I bring up that topic. That’s so entitled to think you can just come into a relationship with zero value to another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:31 PM
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Valuable in the sexual dating marketplace, not in the marriage marketplace Value is value. That depends more on her personality and standards. You’re delusional if you think a 2/10 woman is going to get proposed by a 10/10 guy. If she able to get Chad’s attention, she’ll be able to get less attractive men’s attention. Now whether or not she’ll take that Attention and make it long-term, entirely depends on her personality and her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:26 PM
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It’s so awesome, men addressing the male loneliness epidemic: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSTgkgyg/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:04 PM
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i don't care You constantly respond and bring up shot you allegedly dont care about. None of your studies point to women doing what youre claiming on a large scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:48 PM
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When women date up, something has to give. It’s weird that you’re assuming most guys talk like that too. Talk about the bigotry of low expectations. he feels he can do this Plenty of guys are obnoxious without being attractive. They just pretend theyre not obnoxious and talk about how good they are but just had a bad day. The woman posted is not talking to unattractive losers without a good job Plenty of them act like that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:38 PM
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The numbers don't prove it What numbers? The statistics on 60% of men being single merely means they’re not in a relationship. Not that they’re not dating. More women are single and more guys are single What study are you referencing? Women are single because they think they are too good for most of their looks matches The problem is you guys have tricked yourselves into thinking just because she fat and you fat mean that’s the only thing she has to care about. The options women want there are N…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:33 PM
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The men who women find attractive are NOT looking to date Most men date and fuck, so…… Those women don't want to hook up, but have to if they are going to get these higher guys to comment. Only a very very dumb woman think that’s going to work. I am just pointing out that women who are legit trying to get a good guy Notice how you’re bringing in things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. It really shows you guys cannot handle hearing that women you don’t value have value to other men…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:23 PM
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I'd argue though that a 10+ % difference politically is pretty significant That doesn’t show the genders are separating. It just shows there’s a fringe group on both sides. My point is that the problem is exaggerated and that this gender war is really not that big. It’s relevant enough to talk about, but it’s not big compared to everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:22 PM
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What's weird is you acting like this culture doesn't exist You’re exaggerating the numbers. Chad takes who he can get for casual sex. If hookups was actually appealing to women, he wouldn’t take what he could get. He would picking the women he actually wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:20 PM
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Those women don't want to hook up, but have to if they are going to get these higher guys to comment. No they dont and that rarely happens. That’s why most women don’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:17 PM
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What's there to be confused about? If Chad is lowering his standards for pussy, like this sub claims, there aren't enough women fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:05 PM
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Women don't care about the BS value of sleeping with men. Hence, the ones that do have ALOT of value. Just because you guys wanna talk shit about them doesn't change that they're quite popular. Women want to date, men want to sleep with them and not date most times. Men ALSO want to date. It's just a larger percentage want hookups than the percentage of women. Hence, when a woman does value hookups, she's very popular with guys. That is why in 2026 so many women are stuck in "what are we". That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:04 PM
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It's how the meme of women attacking a man based on their sexual success because that's the only terms they're able to think in became popular. Problem is this sub conflates that with people hating incels. There's a difference between randomly insulting someone's sexual success and someone who's acting like an incel while saying incel things. Most women think them getting sex with Chad is the same as being able to lock him down Again, most women don't. That's why Chad has to lower his looks stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:53 PM
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My other point is that that the 10% of guys who can't get a woman are not only conservative, but not religious. So they're having the worst of both worlds. Those are also the type of guys who like pretending they're not MAGA/conservative to get liberal women's attention. Republican women are more likely to be religious than republican men. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:45 PM
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I don't interact with people being racist But they're actually common in society. A large part of, if not most, MAGA is extremely racist. Trump has had racist opinions, Charlie Kirk was racist, Megyn Kelly said racist shit. Hell, even Biden was a fucking racist AND HE'S LIBERAL. Especially when Bad Bunny was performing at the superbowl and they got upset Puerto Rico is technically American. Notice how I can easily explain why I claim something is common? Where are you getting that "Where Have Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:28 PM
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I think we can have a country 50/50 politically, but still have women disproportionately progressive, and men disproportionately conservative, and I think that would affect the matching no? That's why I said "I think people overstate the political divide, because it's only by 10%. Thing is, the 10% conservative males are having problems, especially when they're not that religious.". I dont think you realize how similar men and women really are politically. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:24 PM
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The issue is you're lying to yourself. You clearly care. When I dont care about something, I dont even bring it outside once if someone keeps thinking I'm caring. and i don't want to get into the amount of dumb women who have mental health issues in the US Says alot about your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:09 PM
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I don't speak to women like this. Then where are you getting this belief from? The fact of the matter is these shallow women I spoke of who only value what's between their legs do exist and do complain like anybody worth a second glance would ever entertain them. Why you speaking like they're common? Sounds like YOU entertain those bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:07 PM
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Im didn’t want to insult anyone here From the way you're describing the average woman, she's just extremely desirable to men. so there’s no need to dig deeper for the average female user Because you'd be more disappointed with the actually average woman, not the average woman you want super super super bad. It's not a coincidence every 'average girl' this sub talks about would be a dream come true for a guy to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:01 PM
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Someone can be perfectly pleasant and still have values that are fundamentally incompatible with another person's no? That doesn't make things more difficult unless your values are extreme. I think if people increasingly treat politics and gender roles as dealbreakers, But what politics? Because in the USA there's about an equal about of people who are liberal and conservative, with most people in the middle. then I think compatibility shrinks regardless of whether Bob is "insufferable" You seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:00 PM
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Women usually don’t even think about all of this or scientifically try to understand the market, they’re bored download the app get attention of thousands of guys then pick the hottest dude, enjoy the entertainment, attention , validation, sex, then ghost the guy because they have thousands others in their DMs You're not only talking about a Stacy, you're basically talking about a horny noncommittal one. You might as well say you only know women like Megan Thee Stallion. Their standard assumptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:56 PM
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That doesn't really address when women are popular with men and guys are saying her ego is inflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:42 PM
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Oh no, women have inflated egos for......wanting an educated man with a job! How dare they?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:41 PM
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Otherwise they wouldn't constantly be screeching about "where are all the good men?" They dont. Now the ones YOU TALK TO do, but that says more about who you keep around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:39 PM
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So men are gonna have to determine what’s more important to them- the bullshit ideas they consume (mostly on social media) or getting dates, sex and relationships. Alot will not make that choice and blame it on women and society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:22 PM
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I think online dating makes everything easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:22 PM
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I think people overstate the political divide, because it's only by 10%. Thing is, the 10% conservative males are having problems, especially when they're not that religious. I think the end result is that young men and women may increasingly disagree on issues that directly affect long-term relationship. No, I would say it's because like 1 in 10 men are insufferable and dont give people a reason to tolerate their foolishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:21 PM
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"Personality matters more for unattractive or average looking women" Copy and paste where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:09 PM
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First alf all, you're not even explaining who's ABC is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:06 PM
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Funny when the dating market we're more even 30 years ago but somehow it was bad and a huge social conditioning started to lower boys standards and increase the acceptance of average and below average women to be more seen as attractive. Because men dont have the leverage they use to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:04 PM
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Men give just as much value to women as women give them. Companionship, support, physical intimacy. Alot of guys definitely dont give companionship and support. Also, we're talking about even the first few dates, no one's getting all of that unless they're with a very desperate person. Many pretty women date ugly broke guys. Rarely. Either the guy aint that ugly, or he's match some dysfunction she has like drug addiction or crime. Many pretty women date beautiful broke men. That means he's reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:04 PM
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idk why you think any of this makes me angry, See how you're still writing paragraphs on this shit no one else really brought up? congrats i guess but as i said most women don't see value in that. The women willing to have casual sex alot DO see value in that, especially since she's low supply high demand. when women look for long-term partnership, their short-term dating results have absolutely nothing to do with it in reality, Most women know that. You're only talking about a very few dumb wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:56 PM
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What the issue is, this is not an issue with Partner A, "Why aren't you making the same mistake with ME?" That's a red flag to think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:42 PM
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An ex said that she hates giving head, though she has had great experiences and a great deal of fun giving head in the past she wouldn’t for me only vaginal or even anal sex. DID YOU ASK why she stopped? Scenario 2 would most likely be making her current partner wait when she has sex faster with other men in her past. This one is also weird because it seems like what other men got early you suddenly have to wait for. though she has had great experiences and a great deal of fun giving head in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:41 PM
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Value is value, which is what we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:37 PM
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We are distinguishing between different types of things. See how you didn't explain the different types of things? Again, this is so obvious you dont like that the women you despise are valuable to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:05 PM
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her mate value is different in both scenarios, She is still valuable. if you don't get how that's relevant You guys claim she has an inflated ego. If she's valuable, why shouldn't it be inflated? women themselves frequently assert that being valued for what's between their legs is not actually valuable to them But to some women it is, so she's giving away a low supply high demand product, easy sex. She's still valuable regardless how angry that makes you. and no i don't care personally You're si…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:00 PM
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You just claimed me asking "What value does he give those women? Especially if he’s not willing to spend alot of money on her." is not relevant to a guy preferring to go after hot women. You just proved you dont want to think about what value men give to women and this is a reoccurring problem in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:58 PM
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More so than the equivalent man? Absolutely. The problem is you guys have deemed her ugly, but clearly other men dont. You guys love calling dating a market place until the market disagrees with you. It's not men "underestimating women", it's shame. If she's desirable and you think she's ugly, you are underestimating her value because you think she's ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:55 PM
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they also have to learn to acknowledge that to them 'having sex = receiving love'. I dont think it's most men because they know how unappealing that is to women. They'd rather wait than lose the entire chance of something long term. The problem with the specific guy we're talking about. They do acknowledge they think sex = love. The problem is that their love is piss poor, so they're always confused why they're not valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:53 PM
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The other issue is that male promiscuity at higher levels does not discriminate, (more of a numbers mindset). Men are often portrayed as dogs, but we are more discerning than you think. Pick one. You can't have both. Your inability to discern between different types of validation is objectively wrong. You didn't take about different types of validation. Let me repeat myself. Also, your example is that YOU didn't like that popular bitch, not that she wasn't popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:49 PM
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Specifically, they underestimate how attractive a guy has to be to get the special treatment they want. Which is why they get upset when a woman they think it beneath them and should be grateful for his presence.... still expect him to act in a way he had only reserve for the women he deemed attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:38 PM
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"patriarchy", "decentering men", I'm gonna only reply to the stuff that's relevant to the conversation, not you complaining about women in general. Being specific isn't really the point. Right, the point is you guys dont like that the women you think are ugly as hell are actually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:37 PM
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I think men should pick (date, ltr, marriage) women who are sexually into them. The problem is they want women to worship their presence. I say this because I know that men value sex more than anything else....having sex to them equals receiving love... They call it love, but they actually want validation and worship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:30 PM
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I have "had access" to attractive women and declined because I was disgusted by their behavior. Let me make my words bigger since you're not reading. Also, your example is that YOU didn't like that popular bitch, not that she wasn't popular. Again this is not genuine interest. It is. You just dont like the women you deem ugly and insufferable are popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:28 PM
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Not my experience. But you just said men fuck ugly women. If women were into casual sex like men, there would be no reason to fuck ugly women because the man's looks match would be available to him. Algorithmically curated simping is not organic. Simps still count, regardless how much you hate them propping up a girl you find ugly. Liking how a woman's ass looks in a photo is not the same as liking the woman IRL. If it wasn't translating to real life, why would you guys care? Also, your example …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:20 PM
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The real issue is Simping. If she got ALOT of simps she's popular. Doesnt matter that you hate those simps, SHE'S POPULAR. The other issue is that male promiscuity at higher levels does not discriminate, Because they can't. Because women aren't interested in casual sex like men are, so men have to lower their looks standards to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:13 PM
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the issue is that short-term and long-term mate value are very different for women. She's valuable, regardless, if she has alot go guys lining up to be with her. i don't care personally. You clearly care, because the distinction wasn't necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:09 PM
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I know some average looking women and they don’t get any attention. We even have guys claiming "Ugly women getting Chad's sexual attention makes nothing". If she's able to get a 10/10 man's sexual attention, that means she's very valuable in the dating market. That definitely implies less attractive men want her ass too. Now whether or not she wants those less attractive men is up to her, but how the fuck do they think she has an inflated ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:07 PM
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The dating market is not the relationship market. It still requires dating. The ego leads to a hyper inflated According to guys here these women with inflated egos are popular. Why wouldn't she? SHE'S POPULAR. Women get a lot of attention, that doesn't translate to actual investment. If she's popular, lIKE GUYS HERE KEEP EXPLAINING, she'll get it if she's not unrealistically picky. I went clubbing with this bruja, and let me tell you, she was the most insufferable human being I ever met. I Irrel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:04 PM
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Refer back to my entire post for a counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:02 PM
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most women do indeed have options That's not the same thing as what guys here are describing. She doesn’t want him precisely because he’s as ugly as her Then he needs to humble himself immediately. she also believes there a chad or a wealth guy around the corner Just because she'll allow Chad to disrespect her doesn't mean she'll tolerate it from her looks match. she has no leverage over Chad Money or quick sex IS LEVERAGE. Also, if she's getting Chad's attention at all, that means she does have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:54 PM
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It’s not inflated if she’s desired. It doesn’t matter that you personally don’t find her desirable. If she’s desirable just because she sleeps around, that still makes her desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:30 PM
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If she’s able to get a bunch of desperate men, then she’s clearly desirable. And if she truly is not good-looking, then they like her because she’s very sexual. Yeah, women are that interested in casual sex, so women who are are in low supply and very high demand. Hence, she has a lot of leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:23 PM
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Right, so she liked his personality despite the flaws. With this also goes back to compatibly. Are you making sure you even have anything in common with these women? Because explaining you’re a great catch while going after women who are also great catches is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:21 PM
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I noticed you didn’t really bring up personality, income, and compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:15 PM
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not really if you actually consider the words. You bringing up an oppressed minority. if everyone mistreating you You are not an oppressed minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:12 PM
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It can’t be inflated if she has options. Like I said, it seems you guys are upset that you have deemed her ugly and it turns out she is average. Or a woman you think is average turns out she’s attractive to other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:09 PM
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It’s a bad demonstration that implies these guys think they’re oppressed. It’s actually trivializing what the oppressed minorities actually went through.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:58 PM
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If it’s enough to where she has a lot of options, that is her worth the dating market. Just because you think she’s ugly as hell doesn’t mean the dating market sees her as ugly as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:48 PM
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That’s a very big problem with men, they don’t sit there and reflect what value they give to women. They just think about what they want from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:45 PM
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Imagine thinking you’re oppressed because people don’t like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:44 PM
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Wrong on both accounts. It depends on what the person is looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:36 PM
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Copy and paste where I did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:36 PM
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Andrew tate preaches to very very small minority of men 1 in 6 boys had a positive opinion of Tate. Thats not small. Being popular enough to speak to the president son is not small.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:35 PM
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You can have an inflated ego AND be worth more in, ugh, the terminally online notion of the "dating market" Guys here actually didn’t say whether or not they were talking about online or off-line actually. Perhaps they need to be more specific in their whining next time. All the while, the message to men is that they are worthless Where did I say that? I said you guys underestimate women’s value in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:34 PM
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Simps isn't popularity Yes it is. Simps still count as a group of people. Popularity is having a social circle that's comprised of other attractive No, it’s not. Popular means you’re well liked my group of people. You guys just want to redefine what popular is because you don’t want to acknowledge the women you’re into are more attractive that you want to admit. Women have the upper hand in choosing men because the market favors their delusional egos They cant be delusional if theyre popular. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:28 PM
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They simply stop dating. Guys end up making Andrew Tate popular and convince a lot of guys that “a boy ignored by the village will burn it to feel its warmth”. It is not the same thing whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:25 PM
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It doesn't matter how attractive is a woman if she will reject you at the same rate If everyone’s rejecting him, he’s the problem. Might as well only go for the pretty ones What value does he give those women? Especially if he’s not willing to spend alot of money on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:15 PM
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Its mainly guys here complaining about their loneliness and how its unfair. “Male Loneliness Epidemic” wouldnt be a thing if those would STFU and not cause problems in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:13 PM
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Popular isn't "has a lot of simps". Yes it is. You guys just don’t like to acknowledge that because that means you have to notice that your standards are more unrealistic than you think it is. Women overcompensating for their defect It’s not that they have higher standards, is that they’re more willing to let someone treat them like shit if it means they get the dream guy they always wanted, looks wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:03 PM
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What you said had nothing to do with this post. So why are you complaining? You guys really need to notice when you’re being hypocrites. Because it gets annoying when the red pill lacks such self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:55 PM
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Just because market favors you doesn’t mean you have to act like a dickhead For most of the red pill, that is the point. That’s why they absolutely hate when someone says their personality is the problem. They don’t want their personality to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:51 PM
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Just because market favors you doesn’t mean you have to act like a dickhead Then stop “rewarding” cunts with Attention and free males. Even most guys here said they’ll be willing to hang around awful people if they’re useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:50 PM
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OP never mentioned Trump Imagine talking about passport Bros, and not knowing about Trump’s 2 out of 3 wives. so even if he is this unlikable That’s more of a big deal than you guys like to believe. The problem is you guys want the pretty privilege for that not to matter. Most of you will not get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:48 PM
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That worth is virtual, not real Then the issue is a lot of guys aren’t touching grass. Having an army of simp is not a question of top 20% attractiveness but of behavior, simps stick to someone who is open to receiving that attention The most popular girl has never not been pretty. Bellow average women are insecure and as a result far pickier than average That’s not how insecurity works. The ugly women who usually allow guys to treat them like shit, those guys are typically attractive. Those guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:45 PM
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The issue with dateing is that too many men and too many women are dateing for status rather than dateing for fun or companionship. That’s always been the issue with dating. It’s just that a lot of guys now have a lot less status than they used to because being a provider is no longer that impressive anymore. People would be much more happy if they were willing to compromise a little bit more to get a good person with a matching personality. But they don’t want that. They want special treatment,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:42 PM
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I don’t think it’s about look standards for men at all. It’s more so they’re not hot enough for the nasty attitude they want to get away with. They’re complaining about height because there are women with a height fetish who will sleep with the man only because he has height. That is the type of reaction they want from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:34 PM
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men now have first hand knowledge of the absolute misery women can easily wreck upon them from social shaming to taking their children and money Sounds like guys were super stupid. men are very aware that most women don't really like them The guys who were experiencing this are just not likable. so now that we have both genders suspicious and untrusting of the other we simply have far less relationships Then why is there always a complaint over male loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:29 PM

Literally guys here, particulary Eblademonk have calmly said He is consistently a hypocrite, and he has consistently showed he doesn’t like accountability. I have explained my reasons why I would claim this on the replies I gave him. And when I call him out for saying something that sounds ridiculous or encouraging a victim complex, he tries to gaslight me into claiming he didn’t say it, even though I keep copying and pasting what he said Word for Word. Also, when he tried to explain, that’s not…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:56 AM
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Yes, they can, and if guys want women so bad, maybe a lot of you need to stop being assholes to women. Especially when if you live in the west where women don’t have to put up with that shit anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:54 AM

With a woman such as yourself with this much sheer lack of self awareness You guys aren’t even able to properly explain your views or how you came to certain conclusions, so I don’t really see a reason to care. A lot of guys hete even called my writing novels, which tells me how bad the education is of everyone else here if an essay looks like a novel..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:16 PM
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The exotic/novelty factor can play into a genuine attraction advantage for some men They still have to be conventionally attractive for that to work. Other laundry lists of demands from women in the developed world The developing world are typically more traditional and expect more money from the ‘exotic Westerner’.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:09 PM
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75% of women in the US are overweight or obese That means 1/4 isnt. If having only 25% of the female population puts them at a severe disadvantage, there’s more problems than he refuses to admit to. plus the fact that a healthy bmi woman is like a minor celebrity in the dating market. That means he’s way less attractive than he thinks he is. Having a bad personality will put him at a severe disadvantage if all he has is “not fat”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:03 PM
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That said absolutely nothing except “I will never be the problem, dont expect accountability from me ever”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:01 PM
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If the only men you attract have that tragic of character flaws, I think it requires a deeper look in the mirror. You argue like a child. How interesting. You thought that was a cute little comeback but as soon as I match your energy, now it’s childish. Thank you for proving my point. When you guys say ridiculous things, it sounds reasonable. But when women repeat your words or actions back to you, then it sounds stupid and childish. Not knowing whether you want Stabucks or Dunkin is a lot diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:59 PM
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Women can still be what I described You tried to make it about women in general. You didn't even want to address guys can just be stupid and deluded until I brought it up. Not knowing whether you want Stabucks or Dunkin is a lot different than not knowing which guy you want to falsely accuse of SA for social validation Shit, you talking about me only knowing guys with tragic flaws, why do you only know Amber Heard? Guys if you only know crazy vindictive women, you are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:35 PM
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Maybe those men do have options at home. Most guys here talking about passport bros talk about how local women by home didn't like them. Maybe they're just more attracted to a prettier, younger, slimmer, more feminine looking If they can't get that in their country, they're totally using their money in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:30 PM
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It's always interesting that you guys only understand how bad most guys here sound when a WOMAN explains the problem. However, that still wont stop you from blaming everything on women despite you acknowledging men can actually be that stupid and deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:24 PM
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"No one likes me.....it's everyone else that's the problem." Popular saying in my country: If you met one asshole, you just met an asshole. If you're meeting assholes ever, YOU are the asshole. This is the current day, where are way more accepting of anyone. Even 600 pound women and furries get a lover. If a guy is really not getting anyone to want him, he's absolutely the problem. Even ugly guys can get into a polyamorous relationship if they're really in the trenches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:11 PM
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Personality matters. They DON'T want their personality to matter. They want women to want them DESPITE their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:08 PM
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Physical attraction is extremely important, Getting an international sugar baby isn't gonna fix that problem. You don't want to be the unattractive man who only choices to lead with his wallet. That's what they're doing. If they struggle with women in their own country, going out of country isn't gonna fix unless you wanna be like Trump and use your money to get a pretty girl. Getting in shape and going somewhere where women If they were actually gonna do that, they wouldn't need to be passport …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:07 PM
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If people dont like a guy's company, then he's the problem and why he's not finding anyone in his own country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:03 PM
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Semi-disagree, because money. And I wonder when did that mean "truly desired".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:02 PM
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Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west. You guys thinking Trump was truly desired by his wives is hilarious. Even his first wife said sleeping with him felt like SA. we are all limited by our physical attributes That's just what guys tell themselves to not admit they're just unlikable. Look at 90 Day Fiancé. It's usually a creepy American going after an attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:59 PM
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Dating Advice For Men Doesn't Work Because Women Don't Actually Know What THOSE MEN want, because they LIE. Usually they "what do you want in a guy", which is NOT what they specifically want to know. Just like they say dumb shit like "How to talk to girls" when they mean "how to flirt". Also, these guys still can't explain how they were lied to by people. No one told them "If you're a good boy, women will fuck you as a reward". Not a single person told them that, so they easily will lie to thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:56 PM
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Infant male genital mutilation being legal all over the world Who's doing the procedure? Who encourages it? even in countries that have banned the same thing for females Which countries was FGM happening in?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:45 PM
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"Women dont care about men's issues!" First of all, does it involve your genitals not being touched? Second, are you trying to find a way to blame everything on women? Thirdly, is it ACTUALLY a serious problem or a first world problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:29 PM
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Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips You mean the women spreading STDs and going on sex tours to pick up underage males? Imagine being confused why there is outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:23 PM
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Oh, you mean r/MGTOW, where misogynists would say fucked up shit about women and got banned for it? For example, laughing at a woman's house getting burned down and victim blaming a rape victim because she went to nightclub?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:21 PM
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other guys and men from this sub are two different things Then that's something to talk to whoever else is in this sub. Figure out "what men do" and come to an agreement first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:19 PM
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Thats not a gendered thing, Seems men are way more willing to do that, especially hearing what guys here say. They just dont want these shitty dynamics exposed IMO, on either end of this. Again, according to guys here, as long as sex is the result, they're fine with the shitty dynamics. They'll simply blame others for the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:19 PM

When did I claim that there’s something wrong with women if a woman isn’t like that? Implying women don’t date guys they desire just because they don’t act like they’re in porn is extremely insulting. I’m just saying that if a woman did something like that in the past but didn’t do it with me If she had subpar sex with men she hooked up with and wanted to only sleep with guys she’ll want a relationship with, that has nothing to do with desire. It’s extremely insulting for guys to think a woman h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:12 PM
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Traditional masculinity links male identity to dating success, They also deeply hate feminists so they dont want the gender norms to change either. So they trapped themselves and utter misery wanted to uphold a standard they themselves cannot accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:54 PM
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everyone has a type that is like 1/10 girls. According to this sub, not they dont. So you better clarify with the other guys first. Also, someone not being your type does not give you the right to talk shit about them and expect no one to call you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:43 PM
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Pump and dumps exists. You just contradicted that they like each other if you’re explaining a guy has to lie to get what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:41 PM

Most guys aren’t attractive enough to get that kind of reaction from women unless she’s naturally just sexually active in general. If you guys are just looking for sex ASAP, go ahead. But stop acting like it’s something wrong with women because most of them don’t act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:35 PM
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Men could give plenty of things they would like to get out of a relationship The ones who actually want relationships, not guys here. Thats silly. Men DO care about humor intelligence, kindness etc just like women do Not most guys here. They have admitted to choosing to be around awful insufferable people as long as they are useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:16 PM
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No, what he means is you’re supposed to be extremely horny at the very second you see a man. And if you’re not, you’re a terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:11 PM
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I’m so happy that you have basically admitted that you guys want your porn fantasies to be a reality. You guys don’t actually want women to desire you or love you, you want women to look at you for two seconds and cum a waterfall at your mere existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:10 PM
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When it is the majority of the food, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:06 PM
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You can acknowledge you are incompatible with most women Acknowledge that it’s a personal problem and not because you think women are defective. Because it’s not in anyone else’s fault but your own if you’re looking for something nearly unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:06 PM
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You can now report posts if they are suspected AI You realize people are just going to spam you with posts and comments they dont like, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:26 PM
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I'm arguing for holding people accountable by explaining how you are failing to do so. Unless a Karen breaks the law, she's technically allowed to be a Karen. That doesn't mean people will stop calling her out for her victim complex and behavior. If you are arguing against that, you are pro-Karen and for coddling Karen. Same thing for other obnoxious terrible people. If you aren't against accountability, stop arguing against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:10 PM
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I explained myself multiple times: claims that men and women are different implies See how your explanations require you to not look at context? I even gave you context and you're still ignoring it. You can't even give me context of your counterargument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:08 PM
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You might think that a significant part of men participated in this More of them participated in those fights than men now on hookers. Even now, men aren't really pushing for legal sex work. They're more saying they wouldn't mind if it did. lus I can't remember some "terrible stigma against tattoos" That's how hard people fought against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:07 PM
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The point is, to hold someone accountable, , they must regard you as capable of doing so in the first place. So you lied. You were actually arguing against holding people accountable. To hold them accountable is to call them out and not accept their victim complex. To argue against that is extremely telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:06 PM
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If you forgot what your claims are, then this conversation is over. Like I keep saying, you calling me a hypocrite depends on no context or explanations. You guys have this bad habit of claiming shit and never even elaborating on the claim as to how you even came to your conclusions. This goes hand in hand with the fact you guys skim other people's explanations and how they claim to their conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:04 PM
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Because there are more substantial strategies for reducing the amounts of Karen energy Being a Karen is rarely even against the law and they have main character syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:01 PM
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against what stigmas, for example? One, Gay marriage got legalized faster than prostitution. Also, anti-discrimination, alcohol, tattoos, etc. 2) no, among women, support for such things is minimal Well, since you brought this up, may I please see your statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:00 PM
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Who are you holding accountable here? Reading the post helps! I'm not arguing against accountability You are, because there's no point in arguing against men being called out for their lack of accountability otherwise. It's like arguing against people laughing at Karens. If you're not pro-Karen, why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:55 PM
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Well, there is already a question of social stigma, Men have fought against other social stigmas much harder. They just didn't care about hookers like that. then among women for some reason support for such legalisation is extremely low From what I have found, it's 40% support, so thats not low.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:52 PM
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Not true, in most countries most men are in favour of legalising prostitution, That's a recent thing and mainly correlating with liberalism and regulations, not because men actually wanted hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:43 PM
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Again, the issue isn't "nobody's holding these people accountable, The problem is you guys are arguing against people calling out the lack of accountability and thinking that's a good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:40 PM
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Agree to disagree. See how you needed to not have context and nuance to claim I'm a hypocrite? Men do "muh biology" arguments all the time. Half of red pill had biology reasoning behind it. I know you wont do it, but give context.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:39 PM
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So ~20%? That's alot considering it doesn't take many people to cause a massive tragedy. Like it mainly took Tate and his brother to run a trafficking ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:38 PM
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the main problem is social stigma, By men. If men actually wanted hookers, they would have made it legal in most countries. I think it's quite justified that since women in society are explained that they shouldn't get married, have children and single life is a great alternative And men STILL aren't pushing for legal prostitution, even when government officials get caught with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:36 PM
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Accountability is something that can only be imposed by power structures It's awesome you guys are admitting you dont believe in male accountability and it's something to argue against.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:34 PM
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Again, when you generalize it is a nuanced context based take Because I actually explain it and how it's tied to biology, which is actually different between genders. when men do it they are bigots and deangerous. This is hypocrisy. Because they only justify it through their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:32 PM
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they absolutely don't give a fuck about the well-being of a woman in a relationship That's a big part of why they get mad when video games focus LESS on sexualizing women because now they're catered to less and they can't stand that. otherwise they would no longer watch manosphere contents. In my opinion it's also why they're upset with women because the reality is much more disappointing than deluded themselves to be. Manosphere tells them 5/10 women think too highly of themselves. The real iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:31 PM
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This sounds like bigotry. When you strip all context and nuance, of course. I believe we call that a straw man. You can keep talking to the straw man, but the scarecrow had nothing to do with my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:19 PM
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No, I’m criticizing the person whose post I am currently responding to. Your criticism is based on me repeating what guys here say. The fact that some men originally conflate love with sex does not exempt But that was the point of me bringing it up. Quoting or paraphrasing a bad premise does not automatically mean you have successfully challenged it. "You're never gonna get that from the female population" is challenging it. You keep redirecting attention to who said it first Because your compla…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:17 PM
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It's not ironic. Men just dont want hookers because it doesn't contain love, it's not validating, and the upfront cost is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:14 PM
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They also like video games in which the female characters display an unrealistic level of nakedness, For their entertainment. They dont like when women can profit from their own sexuality. They want women to be sexualized and only benefits men. when they see on Tinder or another dating app that a girl they know has posted pictures of herself wearing an attractive miniskirt or showing a fair amount of cleavage or her underwear, they'll call her a "slut" and a "whore," Because they dont like it'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:12 PM
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What approximate percentage of men do you believe think fondly of Epstein and Diddy? 1 in 6 boys are fond Andrew Tate, which he is basically accused of doing what Diddy but to you, that's "Pearl Clutching".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:11 PM
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People voicing their complains The complaint is against a group of people, which then leads to radicalization and actual harm. Bigotry doesn't stay harmless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:09 PM

They also like video games in which the female characters display an unrealistic level of nakedness, For their entertainment. They dont like when women can profit from their own sexuality. They want women to be sexualized and only benefits men. when they see on Tinder or another dating app that a girl they know has posted pictures of herself wearing an attractive miniskirt or showing a fair amount of cleavage or her underwear, they'll call her a "slut" and a "whore," Because they dont like it'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:06 PM
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Hundreds of peope are run over every day. It's typically not tied to an ideology making society its enemy, which makes it more dangerous. I don't care and you don't care Most people care and they care by not using them to blame an entire gender over nothing. Just people you want to exploit male suffering to blame women doesn't mean most people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:59 PM
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So now we're in the pearl clutching phase I mean, if you call boys thinking fondly of a guy that acts like Epstein “pearl clutching” sure. While you’re at it, I guess you can go ahead and call people upset about what Epstein and Diddy did pearl clutching too. What's your thoughts on Columbine and the Nice Truck attack? What other serious topics do you label as pearl clutching?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:54 PM
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They aint gonna stop just because you told them SO? Are you thinking that’s gonna stop people from calling them out? Because it’s not. People call out terrible stupid people even if the person wants to keep being stupid and terrible. People call out Karens even when Karens still think they’re victims. What was the point of you writing this? People still hold others accountable even when they refuse to hold themselves accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:52 PM
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A lot of? Really? Come on Even the US government sees them as threat, they have stopped being considered harmless a couple of years aho. Far far away from "international problem An incel ran a bunch of women over with his car. More men kill themselves because of women Depress men usually stated work or feeling worthless was the cause of their depression but you dont care them anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:49 PM
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1 in 6 boys under 15 have a positive view on Tate. That’s a problem when that many boys think fondly of a misogynist now being investigated for sex slavery. And a lot of public mass killings have been tied to inceldom and incel forums do promote and laugh at those murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:31 PM
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Why do you care about men People tried to ignore the whinings, and it didn’t work, those men just made people like Andrew Tate popular turned and incels into an international problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:21 PM
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being repeatedly reminded that the entirety of women will never make a single compromise No, they just don’t wanna compromise with you, especially if you have nothing of valued to compromise for. There’s plenty of women willing to compromise on sex, they’re called prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:10 PM
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He’s a weirdo obsessed with the sex lives of others. Unless it harms others or has a negative effect on society, why the fuck does he care?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:08 PM
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What many men want from women they don't need to like them to get Many, not most. See, the guys who are able to get away with that usually have some sort of value to them, such as looks for money. The ones complaining the most about women, want to act like the men who have that sort of value, but do not have that value.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:06 PM
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That does not answer the criticism I’m telling you, you’re criticizing the wrong person. If you only criticize what men say when a woman repeats it, that’s on you..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:05 PM
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Examples are not connected, “I love sex but I hate the women who are the easiest to fuck” imagine thinking that’s not connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:04 PM
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Now, this goes back to people who complain how women how women dont “love unconditionally” (for sex) like men do. Thats men here conflating sex and love. That’s why whenever you bring up what they want in a relationship, the only thing they can think about is sex. They cannot tell you anything else they want out of a relationship than sex, even when they say sex is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:57 PM
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