"I'm a girl, we can do that..."

WordsNotToLiveBy · 2013-07-21T18:54:32+00:00

I would not have let them go through. The girl just shouted rape in the middle of the line. Social norms go in favor of women when the situation is unclear. But in this case the girls blew it. You should have blocked them and called security. After them doing something so dumb as yelling rape it is unlikely to go well for them.

hippo_canoe · 2013-07-21T18:24:12+00:00

On the other hand.... Wanted to share what happened at the street fair on Friday. Typical but short line for the port-a-potties, and I arrive a little bit before the gal does. But we're standing there and there's a little "who goes first" tension when the next spot opens up. I think, what the hell, and offer for her to go first. (Remnants of chivalry are strong in this one.) But she clearly indicates for me to go first with a kind of, "I appreciate the offer, but you were obviously here first" kind of a grin. It was nice, I felt - - respected.

MaxJohnson15 · 2013-07-21T18:16:42+00:00

Well that made me rage like a mother fucker...

Also if that was the bar of your friend's dad, why not tell him what happened so he can remove those bitches from the club?

AceyJuan · 2013-07-21T19:06:04+00:00

A fine example. Woman are always presumed to be innocent victims. It's one of their privileges. This is a story of women abusing privilege. It's natural for anyone to abuse privilege, which is why we fight against these outdated notions. It's vexing that Feminism fights for these sexist privileges for women.

falconheart · 2013-07-21T18:37:49+00:00

Unfortunately women are so protected by the law at this point there isn't anything we can do. However, in a truly equal world, they'd get what a man would: thrown the fuck out.

theonlyguyonreddit · 2013-07-21T18:37:05+00:00

The only way I can think to handle that kind of situation involves being absolutly shameless and not backing down and yelling "cutting in line" in response to her saying rape. (I mean we're in line, there isn't exactly a shortage of witnesses

noodleworm · 2013-07-21T19:51:57+00:00

I'm sure plenty of female rape victims would have something to say about a supposed grown woman screaming "rape" like a child cos she didn't get her own way. If I were there i'd have told her calmly told her as much.

2013-07-21T19:38:03+00:00

The apparent leader whose stopped first tilts her head back and I kid you not shouts this in a sort of laughing manner "RAAAAAaaaPE"

What?

Man, I wish the guy had stood his ground and all the other eyewitnesses (OP included) stuck around to corroborate the story. That's not okay.

H79979 · 2013-07-21T17:20:59+00:00

http://www.genderratic.com/p/2025/general-%e2%80%93-mras-puas-mgtows-and-how-the-mrm-is-not-a-monolith/#comment-14019

In fact, while I wouldn’t go so far as to say feminism was “a mistake from the git-go”, I think it had problematic aspects from the git-go, and because of the traditional gender role attitude of not contradicting a woman or there’ll be drama, these problematic aspects have been indulged and magnified as times has gone on, leading to a contemporary movement whose most visible representatives are spoiled adolescent princesses who think being spoken back to by the help is intolerable oppression, and egotistical white knights who put down other men to earn women’s approval.

SmooK_LV · 2013-07-21T19:52:11+00:00

I know there are assholes, but I am very upset about girls misusing rape accusations. Such accusations can cost a career, family and life.

Mashuu225 · 2013-07-22T00:28:49+00:00

"just cause you are a girl, doesnt mean you have to act like a cunt"

2013-07-21T23:18:45+00:00

Wow dude. Just reading this makes my blood boil. I fucking hate women that are like this. If this eved happens to me I will pull my phone out and start recording it. That way if she screams rape then Ill have it on video that she is just a stupid cunt.

2013-07-22T01:21:43+00:00

This shit gets me more fired up than police brutality videos

PlaneHijacker · 2013-07-22T05:20:10+00:00

The "raaaaape" thing happened to me once. I just ignored her and kept looking at my phone. She said it louder and when the dude came I just said "nah mate you've got the wrong guy" and just ignored them

pasapprivoisee · 2013-07-22T05:53:15+00:00

Correct answer to ruin their night: You aren't that pretty.

(Consider yourself forewarned: That will probably result in a whole world of tears and bitchiness -- it may not be worth it.)

Miathermopolis · 2013-07-21T18:46:43+00:00

If I (woman) was in line at either of those bars I would have shamed those stupid twats.

Moxiecontin · 2013-07-21T18:20:21+00:00

Clubs and bars allow this because many people are coming because there are ladies there. They are often actively trying to get as many women as possible into their establishment, and giving people preferential treatment and free reign to do what they like is a great way to do that. In this case, women are more valuable than men to the establishment.

Also, I can hide small things in my vagina. I'm a girl, we can do that. What now?

seenloitering · 2013-07-21T19:45:58+00:00

Shiit, just get drunk at home. It's cheaper, the company is better and the music is always to your liking.

MaskingRain · 2013-07-21T20:12:43+00:00

Oh my godness, I feel so ashamed for my gender right now. So sorry to hear that, If it helps I never expect a guy to give me priority in a line, I always make sure it's fair.

I also feel bad when the bouncers allow me and my friends to pass a long line to get into a club because "we attract more customers".

I feel it's outrageous that those girls thought it would be funny to shout rape! wow that's low, with all this feminist shit going on with women superiority is sickening. We have it better than guys here in the western world!

For example I know some girls who would flirt with guys just to get free drinks, then to see their face fall once the girl fucks off once she got what she wanted, all because its expected of guys to provide the drinks. Apparently its okay to hurt feelings because they are a girl. Hmph sorry just ranting, I see "feminists" on tumblr all the time and do that exact shit.

There's nothing I hate more than hypocrites...

Oneill95 · 2013-07-22T01:32:36+00:00

Once my girlfriend tried to get herself, her (female) friend and me into a club in the same way. The night ended with me as a single guy and I would gladly have repeated that decision.

whatwhatwtf · 2013-07-21T22:20:11+00:00

I suspect this is going to rain in downvotes but, fuck it here goes; For a club or bar, these women are just a commodity, the equivalent of arm candy — because right or wrong, her only value is in being seen and being used by the club as a commodity to get more people drawn to the scene. She will never be asked to justify a complicated belief system. She will never be evaluated on her intellectual savvy or prowess. She will not be judged by, or be dependent upon on her personality, her attitude, or her ability to interact or contribute to interpersonal relationships. She has no reason or benefit not to act like a bitch. Her entire adolescence has been geared towards appearance and all her social interactions (to which she are 100 times more savvy than you) have to do only with social standings and position and hierarchy above the likes of you.

Young men have to realize that from the gender based double standard you are worth nothing, at best, you are just a penis in a box for emergency, "in case of need, break glass". For a club or bar, chances are, the more you drink the more aggressive and obnoxious you are going to become. Your only value is the amount of money in your pocket and how much you are going to spend.

You have to realize, her entire merit and value is in beauty, tits, ass. The commoditization of the vagina. For much of her life, the early part, she will be valued only for looks and health. From puberty on she will be having the opposite sex lusting after her, these are her rules, her game, even if she is half troll. If she brings something more to the table, a job, an education, great so much the better — But chances are, not necessary. Up until this point in her life she has learned the rule of heavy lifting: if she even vaguely references the vagina; someone else does the heavy lifting. And the hotter she is, the more pathetic and the longer line of men willing to entertain these whims on the hopes of being nice will catch her attention and currying her favors by providing to her. It is her super power.

And you have to realize, it works in reverse too. See, all things being equal, all men are shit to her; boring, pathetic turds he just want her for her pussy. So all things being equal, she is going to go for the one with the most resources. This is why a reasonably good looking older man can pull a younger woman. He is socially savvy with age, has money and resources and doesn't make excuses. For men, their value comes with time.

So by all accounts to her social reference system what you are doing does not even compute in her calculations, you are just an asshole. (Please note dear gentle readers I am not calling OP an asshole or justifying the cohorts original behavior, only attempting to explain.)

Do not fret — I guarantee she will go from one failed relationship to the next. One day by the age of thirty she will wake up and see cracks in the facade and begin a rampant blame game against all the other half. Desultory cries of "All men are assholes" will ring out across time. If she has any genetic juice left in reserve will marry and divorce after a few years, take half the stuff of some naive well meaning schmuck. Squeeze out a few pups, ignore the bastards turn 'em into latchkey kids and spend the child support on plastic surgery and tramp stamps. Lather, rinse, repeat.

But for guys, never fear, there'll always be the next girl, struggling to put herself through college.

There is only one thing that can be done here, that will change mankind... And that is for other women in line to step up to the plate and to call these girls out on it. That ain't gonna, so don't worry about it.

rave420 · 2013-07-21T23:10:16+00:00

A similar thing happened to me while waiting to get into a local college bar. This girl that I had known from before starting college and her attractive friends (they all worked at Hooters) thought they could budge a huge line of people waiting to get inside to see a concert. This was in my second year of college and this girl had actually graduated already. She budges ahead of everyone and I imagine since shes exceptionally good looking, none of the guys that shes budging say anything to her. I was getting so sick of all these men just letting these girls slowly work their way up the line I called out the one that I knew by name and told her to get to the back of the line. She ignored me at first until I shouted at her a few more times. I can't remember what exactly she said to me to set me off but I remember her saying "Do you even go to school here?," to which I replied "Yes, and I have my ID right here so why don't you stop being a bitchy cunt and go to the back of the line where you belong?" Everyone that heard it was in shock that I had the balls to call her a cunt and although it wasn't in my better judgment, I was not in the mood to put up with her shit that night. It was to no avail though. As soon as she got over the shock and embarrassment, even though they quit budging more, her and her little group of friends never moved and no other guys said anything.

2013-07-22T00:59:52+00:00

I had that happen once and the white knights formed a perimeter out of nowhere to object. My eyes nearly rolled out of their sockets. My fault for being at a club aged 32 in the first place. I felt 100.

LotsOfMaps · 2013-07-22T03:39:43+00:00

Why do clubs and bars allow this?

Because cute girls induce men to spend more money in their establishments. Sad, but true.

DetaxMRA · 2013-07-22T04:53:53+00:00

We've all seen stuff like this before. I remember in high school I was waiting for a microwave a lunch time and a girl in my grade (with a line behind me, I had waited my turn) walked up and tried to move in front of me. I simply used my weight to nudge her from the microwave and proceeded. The area was cramped and she tripped on the backpack sitting behind her. She gave me a nasty look, went outside to her friends, and I watched as they all tried to stair me down. Later we were called in to the office as she filed a formal complaint against me. Knowing I'm not that sort of malicious person the VP just talked to me about it and nothing happened.

The gall on her though, to try to skip an entire line of people.

Witchgrass · 2013-07-21T21:17:26+00:00

god damnit i hate this shit. -a girl who happens to also be a decent human being

hacktheory · 2013-07-21T18:53:14+00:00

I would have called the cops and filed a charge against her for false acquisition of rape in a public place.

Hodor_Frey · 2013-07-21T20:25:41+00:00

It's simple. Don't go to clubs. Don't patronize bars with lines. Don't play their game.

Vandredd · 2013-07-21T19:00:02+00:00

because women attract males who spend the most money if there are women there.

AtheistConservative · 2013-07-21T20:09:05+00:00

Why and how can this happen and guys don't do anything to stop it? Why is it the girls who were actually waiting in line try not to stop them except my friends and that one bold gentlemen ahead of us?

It happens because it benefits the women and they never face real consequences for it. People respond to incentives. Everyone would love to cut the line, but generally there would be some sort of consequence, but there isn't for these women. Most women/people would feel shame about cutting, which is consequence enough.

As to why guys do nothing to stop it, social conditioning and fear. Generally men are brought up to give women more of a pass on things than they do for other men. But even if a man feels inclined to fight against the bullshit, he risks all kinds of proxy violence being brought down upon him. There's the security that was mentioned, but also white knights, and worst of all cops. These women had no skin in the violence game.

ManicMuffin · 2013-07-21T22:06:35+00:00

Your friends dad owns the bar, kick em out.

Peterowsky · 2013-07-22T00:30:23+00:00

was in line for a bar

Found your problem right there.

Bars that have lines usually need to let more females in so the place does not turn into a sausage-fest (gay bars are a rather obvious exception), their service is also usually worse then bars where you go in, order some food and drinks and hang out with friends, but people go to this kind of places not to drink and have fun, but to hook up. Because of that men will often pay more to get into bars with more girls in them, and girls get to cut the lines and go in without the bouncers ejecting them because "it's full" (of guys trying to get laid).

Where I come from her screaming rape (false accusation, yay!) would constitute a crime, a crime against his reputation, and as such not something taken very seriously, but still something that could get her in jail for a couple of days and a pretty nice financial compensation, too bad so few people realize this.

bunker_man · 2013-07-22T05:40:46+00:00

Why do clubs and bars allow this?

Because at clubs and bars the females are not the customers; they are the product. So those places don't care how they get there. Only that they do. I do think they were terrible people for doing that, but at a place like that its really to be expected. You don't go to a KKK meeting, and wonder why everyone is racist.

misingnoglic · 2013-07-22T07:51:07+00:00

The thing is, this isn't really sexism in the "The bar owners hate men!" version of sexism. It's more that due to business practices this is what makes them more money. If men refuse to be treated like shit bar owners will pay attention, but they seem to be keeping up with it, sad =[

P.S. I'm a guy too (though I said they), I just don't go to bars :P

eekamike · 2013-07-21T20:12:47+00:00

Bars and clubs suck at this kind of stuff (or at least as far as I know in the US). This mindset is purposefully perpetuated by these institutions to bring women in, because men will follow. It's kind of upsetting.

splitkid1950 · 2013-07-21T23:03:45+00:00

that's how bars work these days.... they let girls cut lines and go in for free to attract more guys to come and wait in line and pay

MicGyver · 2013-07-21T23:18:52+00:00

I don't know why but I feel my first reacting to hearing her yell rape to that guy would be "SHE'S trying to steal HIS wallet" as to hopefully negate her comment. If she's trying to throw accusations like that, then let's see cause there are witness that is not rape.

nwz123 · 2013-07-21T23:21:30+00:00

Things have gotten so absurd that they feel nothing (not even shame) at attempting to coerce/bully 'kind-acts' (read: benefits) out of people.

Newsflash: if it's not freely given and chosen (that is to say, if it is not a choice FREE from duress, manipulation, coercion, etc), then it's not 'kind.' It's just fucking bullying. Period.

Yea, it's all fun and games to them (a defense mechanism to deflect the probable shame they're feeling at how naked their actions really are) but it's clear they know what they're doing. Power is not unidirectional; it's a social (human) phenomenon.

IdleGod · 2013-07-22T03:24:44+00:00

To answer why, its fairly simple. The bar staff just do not care. They are overworked, and generally pretty busy with other things. They will defend a woman if she is uncomfortable, even if she is just crying wolf, because women are really the only driving force at bars and clubs. If there are no women, no other women come, and nor do the men. You can tell a bar will be closed shortly if there is a lack of women. So, it's in their best interest to kowtow to women, even if they're being terrible people, otherwise those girls will stop coming, and will tell others to stop going because its bad.

It's all BS, but thats why it happens. If I was a bar owner, I'm fairly sure I would do the same. Call me what you will, but profit is the first order of business at a bar/club. Guys, by and large, will take the abuse for the sake of a chance at getting laid; if they are seen as being terrible to women, other women pick up on it.

TL;DR - Profit.

VoodooIdol · 2013-07-22T20:48:46+00:00

The bars allow this because vaginas in house = penises in house. Penises spend more money on drinks than vaginas (mostly because they're buying them for vaginas in the hopes of getting in, which they likely aren't going to).

It's really that simple - it's a business decision. Sucks, but it's the truth. And sexist.

jsh1138 · 2013-07-21T23:37:47+00:00

"Why and how can this happen and guys don't do anything to stop it? "

good question. why didn't you stop it?

charliebeanz · 2013-07-22T03:01:03+00:00

I've heard quite a few stories of girls acting like entitled twats at nightclubs. Makes me wanna buy a nightclub just so I can put a stop to that shit.

EmperorYogi2Point0 · 2013-07-22T04:48:15+00:00

this totally happened

HeelistheNewAntiHero · 2013-07-21T22:19:58+00:00

So oppressed ....

Wilsanity · 2013-07-22T05:03:46+00:00

This happened so hard.

JohnGalt316 · 2013-07-21T20:17:08+00:00

i was indifferent until the rape accusation

i let pretty much everything slide until it comes to throwing drinks at people, hitting people, or falsely accusing people of rape

PoliticoG · 2013-07-21T20:27:14+00:00

You feel so bad when you let the bouncer let you cut.... sigh That's kinda like feeling bad for mugging someone while you count out the cash.

crepeculture · 2013-07-21T20:41:29+00:00

If there is any actual use for Google Glass, its this: stopping these stupid false accusations.

bi_polar2bear · 2013-07-22T08:14:12+00:00

Next time, use your phone to video tape them, that way you can possibly press charges when they pull the rape card. Then call the cops. Don't tell the you video taped them, just stop them, call, and stop this bad behavior. If someone doesn't teach them a lesson, this will continue to happen. Or, you can post the video and email it out to everyone for a good old public shaming !

crankypants15 · 2013-07-22T12:37:47+00:00

Thanks for standing up for equal rights sir. But you have a whole anti-male culture to contend with, and that's a tough fight.

itp757 · 2013-07-25T04:56:57+00:00

ah the pussy privilege myth believed by most, and abused by many. But hey some myths are true, and I should know; I'm Bigfoot.

YHWH_The_Lord · 2013-07-21T19:18:30+00:00

While in line for another bar that my friends dad owns

So... why were you waiting in line?

Dakrys · 2013-07-21T20:17:29+00:00

This happens in bars and clubs because they're trying to balance the m:f ratio. They know that guys go to the bars to meet the girls, and if they let too many guys in, they'll label the bar as "full of dudes" in their minds and likely not return.

I'm not saying it's right, but I am saying it's smart. It's to sustain their own business.

You could call it sexist discrimination of men, but it's more or less for the men that they do that.

I'm not convinced entirely that it has a place here.

rightsbot · 2013-07-21T16:58:17+00:00

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XeroPeace · 2013-07-21T20:13:30+00:00

Let me preface this with DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS, but how amusing would it be if men gave immediate karma for even joking about being raped just so a woman could get her way?

Humor me here: Same situation and she yells rape while laughing about it. Guy decks her ass square in the nose. (I'm aware you've just assaulted someone, hence the preface) Now she realizes how serious something like that is and maybe she'll think twice before even joking about something of that magnitude.

Again, DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS. I do not condone violence other than a means to defend oneself.

On a more serious note: Are there no external cameras at these clubs you frequent? Why not seek out the management and have those women thrown out for pulling stupid shit like that?

SmartDrug · 2013-07-22T01:44:45+00:00

Spray the group with mace and bounce. Ruined their night, go on to drink at another bar.

TheHoeven · 2013-07-22T04:15:32+00:00

I think the problem is that these situations would be solved through violence if it were man to man, and with women violence doesn't work because they do, in fact, get special treatment.

2013-07-21T20:38:56+00:00

Just going to tell you if anyone ever falsely accuse(d/s) me of rape I will knock them unconscious, female or not. That's simple self defense, and in a situation where verbal attacks can't be verbally defended I will physically defend myself.

not_sucking_it · 2013-07-21T20:17:42+00:00

Not so sure that this really happened.

misfit18 · 2013-07-21T22:23:27+00:00

next time when she walks infront of u grab her hair, yank it back and pull her out the club, its worth it :P

Daytheon · 2013-07-21T23:19:26+00:00

Girls in fucking bars man. I understand that not all girls in clubs/bars are alcohol begging succubus' but the sad reality is that many are. I have many friends who I consider intelligent, kind, good females. However they openly state with NO SHAME that they don't bring money when they go out because they don't have to, it will be paid for.

EmilKing · 2013-07-26T06:00:54+00:00

If it was me i would shout in her face: "YOUR FUCKING UGLY"

Raudskeggr · 2013-07-21T23:09:09+00:00

You know, even though violence is wrong, those particular groups of women really deserve to get hit.

Something about that younger generation, where it's all about selfishness and there is no longer any sense of decency or you know, considering the possibility that a false accusation could ruin someone's life.

clockworkgirl21 · 2013-07-21T23:52:54+00:00

You should have let her cut in line, then cut in front of her.

diggerino · 2013-07-22T00:49:59+00:00

Life can be tough heyyy

CharcoalFox · 2013-07-22T12:24:08+00:00

As a self-proclaimed feminist and a woman I agree that this kind of behaviour is disgusting. Equality doesn't mean equal rights but different perks. You can't just cut in because you're a girl, and you certainly shouldn't use the word 'rape' to manipulate a guy into doing something or in such a light-hearted manner. Seriously, as far as feminism and equal-rights goes, women are half the problem.

scanspeak · 2013-07-22T13:43:05+00:00

They weren't girls. They were cunts.

tallwheel · 2013-07-21T19:32:20+00:00

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redeyeninja · 2013-07-21T20:51:18+00:00

If he is being accused of rape, he should at least rape her

EVSnowden · 2013-07-22T03:21:21+00:00

I don't believe this happened

Justalittlebitch · 2013-07-21T19:30:34+00:00

Security would really not have thrown them out if you would have called them? Are you sure?

That's some shitty security.

Lizziloo87 · 2013-07-22T06:15:07+00:00

Wow, I'm a girl and I would have wanted to punch them in the face. Those girls give my gender a bad name. It amazes me how entitled people can act.

ladysuccubus · 2013-07-22T06:31:35+00:00

They sound like entitled bitches. My friends and I have never tried to do this. Best way to handle it would be to bring in another group of women waiting in line to make them back down because the rape card becomes completely invalid if it's another woman arguing with them. But honestly, let them call security and tell them that they are just walking to the front of the line and let security deal with them.

However, if you are having a conversation with them, does it really matter? It's one thing if they are strangers but if you are talking to them, then I don't see it as a big deal and wouldn't mind letting a few guys go in front of me if we were talking. Especially since it is awkward talking to someone's back if you are behind them in line.

BalllsackTBaghard · 2013-07-22T18:41:41+00:00

They guy was a beta. Gotta keep that pimp hand strong.

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_w00k_ · 2013-07-22T04:00:18+00:00

There was a line to get in? You were at a club. This is acceptable behavior for women at these places.

jaja13 · 2013-07-22T06:50:54+00:00

You're a dick man, chivalry is a beautiful thing. Women should be treated with respect, even if they are being bitchy or obnoxious. There is never a reason to be rude to a girl, or a guy for that matter.

Jazzeki · 2013-07-21T21:28:09+00:00

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Title	"I'm a girl, we can do that..."
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Date	July 21, 2013 4:57 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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