Men are the slaves of their sexual desire, this imposed sexual desire must be completely eliminated

Newduuud · 2025-10-27T03:28:49+00:00

Plato felt the same way as you

“To my great delight, I have broken free of that [sex drive], like a slave who has got away from a rabid and savage master” from the book Republic

Environmental_Toe488 · 2025-10-26T22:34:40+00:00

I also think society puts pressure on men to be sexual too. I’m introverted so I draw my energy from within, and not really from external stimulation anyways. But I’ve noticed ppl are constantly trying to set me up with a girl. If a girl comes onto me and I say no, it’s like the DJ skips the record and the entire room stops. My friends look at me like wtf man. The girl and her friends will gossip wondering if I’m gay or something. But really I want to be left alone bc I’m an introvert and I’m not about to engage in the chase. I’m happy right here with the few ppl I chose to be with! Don’t get me wrong, I’ve had a couple girlfriends throughout college and med school so I’ve been around the block. But it just feels so odd to me that, if I’m single, the expectation is that I am just always expected to drop whatever I’m doing and go chase after some unknown girl giving me signals or else I’m “weird.” I just don’t want a big social circle in the first place, it’s just too complicated. Such is the life of an introvert I guess. I don’t cave though bc it’s just not authentically who I am, but it makes you think. Where did these social expectations come from? It feels like being an intentionally single but viable male is a social crime for some reason I don’t understand yet. I just want my alone time…

midnight_blue77 · 2025-10-27T02:34:42+00:00

Our sexual desire is not "imposed" as if someone taught it to us. It's innate, as in, we are literally born with it. It's hard wired into our brains and programmed into our very DNA, literally.

This thing that you're proposing has been a dream within MGTOW circles for almost a decade. The idea of some kind of wonder drug that can kill sexual angst the way Ibuprofen gets rid of headaches.

RNAdrops · 2025-10-27T03:15:15+00:00

I couldn’t agree more. To desire women is nothing but a liability today. I recommend the Orthodox Church and a monastic lifestyle. Don’t risk everything to play a game that is basically unwinnable.

TankMurdoc · 2025-10-26T17:52:40+00:00

Dude, just jack off and go on about your life. It’s not that complicated.

Gloomy-Bad-5014 · 2025-10-26T18:03:13+00:00

Kind of, but what sucks is outside of sex, that testosterone makes the rest of your body feel normal. When it goes you get less sexual desire, but you don't feel right over all.

Kroiike · 2025-10-26T21:14:16+00:00

It's crazy, I've had your exact thoughts on why removing the male sex drive would be the biggest revolution for men. Any man who didn't want to engage in the dating shitshow or porn would be free, the creeps and simps can be put to rest (or at the very least men who have had their drive removed can easily distance themselves socially from their behavior), and the men who remain in the dating market would have more power (depending on how many men leave and their quality).

Anyways, if you're interested in the science of it, because I agree any libido killing drug is useless if it negatively affects men's health through hormonal changes, then I would suggest giving this article and the study they are talking about a read, plus another study by the same guys related to the subject (with some pretty cool videos).

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2023/08/male-libido-brain.html

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(23)00798-500798-5)

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(18)31655-631655-6)

It points to there being a specific circuit within the male mouse brain that governs visual attraction and sex drive. There seems to be a specific set of cells within the Bed Nucleus of the Stria Terminalis (BNST) called BNSTprTac1 cells, which very specifically and solely govern sex-recognition. These cells, upon seeing a female mouse, within seconds produce Subtance P, which is sent to the Preoptic Area of the Hypothalamus (POA) where it activates POATacr1 neurons which encourage the male to start mating with the female it spots.

They did optogenetic activation and deactivation tests to see the effects of activating or shutting down these two types of cells. When they activated the BNSTprTac1 cells, it basically made everything sexually attractive. Female mice, male mice, mouse-shaped toys, objects, all became attractive, and the cells activated POATacr1 neurons, which made them attempt to mate with all of them. When they deactivated the BNSTprTac1 cells, they had no sexual interest in anything.

Activating the POATacr1 neurons made the mice instantly seek mating, however, it was still tiered. While it did make male mice mate with male mice, they still preferred females over males, males over mouse-shaped toys, and toys over objects. Deactivation made them completely stop mating, though they still preferred to be around female mice generally. But importantly, neither deactivation of BNSTprTac1 cells or POATacr1 neurons led to general anhedonia, so general motivation outside of sex was untouched.

So given the evidence, it seems like in male mice, BNSTprTac1 cells determine sexual attraction, and POATacr1 neurons determine libido, and that deactivation of these two specifically can shut down the male sex drive. Now the question is, can this be applied to humans, and the evidence we have here is pretty strong.

For one, this whole process I've described is not applicable to female mice, which aligns well with the observable reality that human women are far less visually sexually attracted to things than men are, suggesting that human men have a similar circuit, and women have a much weaker one. Further, the human brain is mostly similar between men and women, however sexually dimorphic differences in size have been shown in the exact areas of interest. The BNST is sexually dimorphic, being larger in males, and a cluster of neurons in the Preoptic Area of the Hypothalamus (POA) called INAH3 is approximately 2.5 times larger in men than in women, and it is said to regulate sexual behavior. Both are widely accepted as sexually dimorphic.

That's all I can say from reading the studies, but it seems clear to me that we have an area in the brain that, if disabled, could take out the male sex drive. The issue now is how to do it. Hopefully funding could get started on researching on drugs to be able to do this. Hope this helps in any way.

tHiShiTiStooPID · 2025-10-26T21:17:39+00:00

What you’re not getting is that bringing this sexual desire under conscious control is one of the developmental challenges of your 20’s and 30’s. Many men fail to rise to this challenge and find themselves dealing with the fall out of their out of control sex drive. These are lesser men. They are mentally weak. You control your actions, fucking period. If you squash sexual desire you will also mess with so many other aspects of what it is to be a man - ambition, loyalty, so many of the strongest elements of the male personality are driven by testosterone, and you will not find a drug with total specificity for just sexual desire. Instead, do what the evolved men through history have done and bring your sex drive under control of your will.

A man is the master of himself.

His actions are dictated by rational thought, not impulse.

To be anything less than this then you are not A man, but a boy, and a simple animal.

geo_gan · 2025-10-27T01:33:01+00:00

He wants to be Lord Varys

First_Sample_5121 · 2025-10-27T15:29:43+00:00

Deadass wish I was asexual sometimes.

PassengerCultural421 · 2025-10-26T17:55:14+00:00

It’s funny and ironic how women, blue pillers, and feminists are usually the ones against posts like this.

They constantly complain about male lust, objectification, and how men “think with their lower half,” yet when men start discussing ways to transcend or even remove sexual desire entirely, suddenly it becomes a “threat” or “misogynistic.”

It’s because they still want to benefit from male sexuality. Society, culture, and even the economy run on the fact that men desire women. From dating apps, OnlyFans, beauty industries, and even traditional relationships, all of it relies on male sexual pursuit.

When men say they want to eliminate that pursuit, they’re not just rejecting women sexually, they’re rejecting the entire power dynamic that gives women control. That’s why you see such hostility toward men who go celibate, MGTOW, or even just detached from dating.

If men truly mastered their sexual impulse, they’d become independent in the truest sense, not just emotionally or financially, but neurologically. They wouldn’t need validation, dating, or approval to feel alive.

And that terrifies people. Because a man who no longer craves female attention or sexual release can’t be manipulated by it. He’s beyond the oldest form of social control.

The irony is that feminists preach liberation, but the moment men start seeking liberation from lust, a burden, they call it “toxic,” “incel thinking,” or “unnatural.”

All this shows how deeply society depends on male sexual energy, not to empower men, but to keep them enslaved to desire disguised as freedom.

NoDanaOnlyZuuI · 2025-10-26T18:44:23+00:00

Some of you love to act like men are helpless victims of your own biology, as if self control doesn’t exist. Seems like biology only matters when it comes to sexual urges - you’re not out here hunting, fighting off predators, or sleeping in caves. You’ve evolved past every other instinct except the one that excuses bad behaviour. Most men experience sexual attraction without objectifying or harming anyone because they have agency, empathy, and values that guide their behaviour.

fiftypoundpuppy · 2025-10-26T17:23:38+00:00

Counterpoint: but they don't wanna

Jetpine9 · 2025-10-26T17:33:35+00:00

Don't some drugs already have that as a side effect? I'm not sure those people experiencing it are happier for it. Maybe though. They may not have much opportunity to express it if that side effect made them happy.

edit; personally I wouldn't want to take a libido curbing drug, even though massive horniness can feel super lonely at times. It also feels like a lust for life though, which I like.

fucksiclepizza · 2025-10-27T02:09:30+00:00

Weird, I've never been called any of those things.

muramosa__ · 2025-10-27T02:38:58+00:00

It's because men who claim to be heterosexual are actually attracted to women, unlike women who claim to be heterosexual and claim to be attracted to men.

autistic_cool_kid · 2025-10-26T17:54:10+00:00

it's a fact that all men are under the extremely strong influence of sexual desire.

Nah that's a recent ideological development. Up until the Victorian age included, men were seen as the intellectual sex able to find pleasure in knowledge and arts, and women as the sex of desire and lust.

MyLastBestChance · 2025-10-26T22:36:19+00:00

So… it appears that you’re completely abdicating any responsibility that men should have for their own behavior?

Amazingly the majority of men manage to navigate society without medical castration without being rapists, catcallers, offenders, or creeps. Somehow these men treat others with respect, value consent, and embrace their own sexuality without violating laws or boundaries.

They control and own their actions without trying to place the blame for their choices on women or “uncontrollable impulses”.

Men who choose not to do so are not “victims” of their sexual desires. They are selfish predators who refuse accountability or responsibility for themselves and actively choose to victimize others for their sociopathic satisfaction.

BobtheArcher2018 · 2025-10-26T17:34:26+00:00

Let's just make huge, sudden and top-down changes to the human social operating system. That's always worked out well before.

One-Camp-110 · 2025-10-26T17:52:13+00:00

Nah OP a cursory understanding of game theory makes it obvious why this falls apart, too many male defectors will gladly scoop up the pussy you disregard. The market will thus always return to equilibrium.

The only way it could happen is through collective action and regulation, ie, death penalty if you ever bang a hymen-less woman or somesuch. Lmao. Not that I'd want to live in that world, but hey, there is always Saudi Arabia if you wanna give it a try.

cb8585b · 2025-10-26T18:00:14+00:00

Sounds good actually. Let us know what you come up with.

Vaudeville_Clown · 2025-10-26T21:21:50+00:00

Hah! Oh you think you'd be beyond scrutiny for becoming a medicated neutre? That society would stop maligning you as a man if only you turn "pure" in that sense? Please.

Even if that did happen, and there was this program men could opt in for and turn blissfully asexual (I support it though, because why not?), it wouldn't matter.

Rest assured that the feminist commentariat would carve out a fresh new angle to make you feel like shit anyway. They'd invent reasons for why thid thing you're doing is the most problematic of problems. And wouldn't you know it, "Women Most Affected!"

Like, there's even articles now about how "rightfully" disappointed "poor" young women are for outnumbering men at campuses. So it's hard to date there. And then the article condescends and complains about men failing to enroll into these colleges.

Another example. Have you seen the shit already written about sex dolls and AI girlfriends? It's odd stuff sure, but a moral failure, depravity to turn to things like that? They are insane.

So even when you (and your sexuality) is absent. You'll get shamed anyway.

The answer isn't to try and put yourself in a position were you can no longer be shamed, but to learn to BE shameless.

If you have fine leading morals and ideals, shame is even a worthless emotion.

Supress it. Ice it over. Kill it. Not your sexuality.

gokeke · 2025-10-27T01:29:24+00:00

Just have sexual discipline and that would solve all your problems

The_WankingBuddha · 2025-10-26T20:31:23+00:00

Lol. This was exactly me when I was 20. Don't worry bro, this phase will pass. Also it's not possible to "transcend" male sexuality:

1) Biologically, the hormones that cause your "muscke growth" or risk taking tendencies, other neuro-chemical reactions that drive "that part of the brain" also act on other aspects of brain. You cannot isolate one function and cut it out.

2) You are only a slave to something if you give it enough power over yourself. You are a biological male. That's a package deal. Accept it completely, the good, the bad, the ugly.

Buddha didn't need to cut out his male sexuality, neither did Jesus or Alexander or Gandhi. They took all the cards they were dealt and rolled with it. Victory lies in acceptance of the self, not in the 'winning' of an internal conflict.

Cptcongcong · 2025-10-26T17:50:49+00:00

Now, men need to remove this imposed sexual burden entirely, but we must do so by targeting the brain system, not hormones.

What do you think exactly happens in the brain, other than producing hormones, that make men horny?

The_Forgotten001 · 2025-10-26T20:01:56+00:00

Look no further than how Eunuchs act if you want to see no sexual desire.

MarioWilson122 · 2025-10-26T21:24:32+00:00

Not really possible the urge will still be there to have sex. A urge that cant really be tamed currently, as there aren't any real options to prevent the hormones from going wild. So men have to just figure out a way to deal with it, as the sexual desire is hardwired in most men.

Adept-Development-00 · 2025-10-27T01:19:20+00:00

Fucking based oversolution.

RealElvarasaidVannak · 2025-10-27T03:38:48+00:00

Uhm yes. I agree. But you can't remove it. We are bound to suffer.

Snoo71180 · 2025-10-27T05:49:28+00:00

Imposed? Best of luck re-writing evolution and human biology. One option is for men to be celibate which doesn’t work. The Catholic church and the massive number of priests involved in terrible acts is a good example of that…but also vile and criminal and pedophelia.

Sorry bud but the arrogance it takes to pretend you’re smarter than Mother Nature (ie human biology and evolution) while trying to solve some perceived problem is laughable. Humans would become extinct if your wish came true. If you’re desperate or entitled that’s your problem, and many women in our society currently find it amusing to belittle men simply for being men. I’ve been called toxic for holding a door open for a woman at a restaurant.
Either be a man and a gentlemen or get out of the way for the many of us who are. Unless you choose to not be a man anymore you’ll never “be free” of your most basic biological wiring. But hey that’s your choice.

You understand that eliminating sexual desire & the biological drive to engage in sexual activity and procreate, at an evolutionary level, equates to the extinction of the human race right? We're all here because of what you are specifically saying human males need to STOP doing. Personally I don't believe that humans should become extinct but that's your pitch so good luck with selling men on that

Substantial_Video560 · 2025-10-27T16:20:36+00:00

Luckily have a very low sex drive, asexual and autistic I consider myself incredibly blessed. Never been a slave to these emotions and my life is all the better because of it.

Jetpine9 · 2025-10-28T16:45:36+00:00

I'm surprised no one mentioned ... NoFap. Many there report that after a period of time of zero masturbation and zero porn consumption, their libidos recalibrate to a more functional level.

I tried it myself at a time when I was too habituated to porn and my own hand as stimulation, and after a biblical length of time (like 40 days maybe), my libido did go into 'sleep mode'. It was probably more like a woman's libido; it was there, but not revving on high every other hour or so.

I eventually fell off the wagon because, why not? It's not like I'm saving myself for anyone, and porn and masturbation are fun. It's just super easy to over do them. And once you start doing them a lot, the brain focuses on those neural pathways and wants more.

TrumpFucksKidz · 2025-10-26T20:13:37+00:00

All neurotypical people are slaves to their sexual desires.

Men are just shamed for theirs despite social and evolutionary conditioning to make us the more assertive gender.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2025-10-26T21:42:47+00:00

Not sure why this thing that dudes have learned how to deal with fur hundreds of thousands of years is “a burden”.

If the entirety of mankind has learned how to handle it, then what’s the real problem!?

velvetalocasia · 2025-10-26T17:36:38+00:00

Well chemical castration is a thing.

antariusz · 2025-10-27T02:45:44+00:00

you're so far lost, women are NOT "contextual" their desire to procreate is driven by the same biology/evolution/neuroscience that applies to men.

And you don't need to eliminate sexual desire, women certainly don't eliminate theirs.

Stop caring what women "call you"

did your parents never teach you 'sticks and stones may break your bones but names will never hurt you'?

Emotional_Meal748 · 2025-10-26T19:42:59+00:00

What a fresh take. It would euthanize our species but I love it. Maybe this debate will finally help women understand but probably not

JackLong93 · 2025-10-26T22:47:04+00:00

dawg maybe you have this problem, but dont project your problems onto other men

leosandlattes · 2025-10-26T17:20:53+00:00

So do you propose that sex and masturbating just not feel good, then? I am not seeing a solution here other than cutting your penis off or frying the nerves there or something. Most men will not agree to this. They will discover that touching their genitalia feels good, and will inevitably want to stick it into a hole.

petellapain · 2025-10-26T18:11:37+00:00

Desire needs to be integrated, not eliminated. It has been channeled into motivation and creativity. Without it, men lose all zest. Its not worth eliminating entirely just because it is inconvenient to get hit on

leefjk · 2025-10-27T02:38:38+00:00

I believe that the only reason there is a perception that women aren't as driven by lust is because they are able to have sex a lot easier. You don't need to modify your physical body to do this. Sexual desires are mostly an out of sight out of mind thing. If you just stop thinking about sex, you won't be ruled by it. It's important to have something else that you enjoy that fills your time.

Far_Secret_2710 · 2025-10-26T17:40:16+00:00

You’re mistaking submission to desire for systemic helplessness. The problem isn’t that men feel lust. It’s that male lust has no cultural infrastructure, rituals, education, or insulation.

Female status games are designed to exploit this vacuum. They will not change because they don’t understand what they’d get out of it. What can change is male prep: single-sex formal training, signal immunity, financial escape routes, conflict channels that don’t default to apology or coercion.

The real issue is containment. Any male-only structure that grants clarity will be slandered as extremism, because it neutralizes the shame economy. The trick is to stop asking for approval. Build things they can’t decode.

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Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-10-27T15:03:10+00:00

Men like their sexual desire, they say it gives them drive, energy and engages them, build civilization, etc, etc

peeper_tom · 2025-10-27T16:16:05+00:00

Not “all” some of us have already realised this and conquered our instincts/bodily pleasures and the degenerative programming that has infected our egos.

anon_enuf · 2025-10-27T16:31:59+00:00

Once you've gotten it out of your system it's easy to give up.
It's the not knowing what your missing where most men get hung up

commentasaurus1989 · 2025-10-27T16:52:50+00:00

Why do you just gloss over self discipline and go straight to “eliminating the desire from its root”?

Cute idea but there is now tangible steps in this. How would that even be possible without chemical castration? As you said that would cause way more problems than it solves.

Senpai2Savage · 2025-10-27T22:17:49+00:00

Sounds pretty lame tbh maybe just accept it's how we are or become a monk.

RecentCarob3193 · 2025-10-28T16:16:13+00:00

Just beat off to some insta chick, some porn, that girl you’re crushing over and you’ll be fine.

BanditNoble · 2025-10-28T23:51:45+00:00

When you say "men are slaves of their sexual desire", you very much are implying that men can't control their sexual desires. A slave is controlled by their master, even if they resent them.

And if you acknowledge that men *can* control their sexual desires, why on earth would we need to eliminate sexual desires? Surely having control of the desire is the best, since we can benefit from its good sides while avoiding its bad sides?

angryanduncertain · 2025-10-29T03:59:03+00:00

SSRI's can dull it a bit, make it less intrusive, without any negative side effects (if you're lucky).

Legalised and well regulated sex-work could also go a long way here. It could be treated as healthcare for those who need it, rather than an indulgence for those who can afford it

OkShame3452 · 2025-10-30T03:43:23+00:00

Antidepressants kill libido. But it's more than lust that we have for women. Men crave beauty. In my opinion we must start looking for beauty in other places, like the arts.

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2025-10-26T17:44:11+00:00

go ahead, who carea. why do men who aren't neurotic loser mental cases have to do it

wayna00 · 2025-10-26T18:03:25+00:00

y'all need help

Emotional_Meal748 · 2025-10-27T03:12:57+00:00

I think women wearing hijab is the closest technological thing we have to what you’re describing

Southern_Source_2580 · 2025-10-27T07:07:01+00:00

Imagine this for a moment. Men already get shamed by being called gay or in the closet whenever they get a clue about women's not so innocent nature even by not as confrontational combative women. Now let's say all men got chemically castrated but still have the ability to have children then not only would the thinking with their dick would be done but that very tolerance of women's behavior would be gone as well.

They would be straight of course but that overdrive that men's minds tolerate in womens behavior that would otherwise be called "MAGGOT" in any other man would make it so only respectable women who are genuinely worthy of being a good mother and wife to spend a peaceful life with would even be heard out and not pure mockery of thinking some entitled adult brat deserves anything past a time out in the corner.

SexCrispies · 2025-10-26T17:44:10+00:00

Or you could just learn social norms, masking, impulse control and perspective taking and not be called those terms. If you already don't, and you just get labeled as being part of men, then get out of the label "men". Identify as a woman. If enough men identify as women, both labels get called creeps, rapists, etc. Unless being a woman now requires something biological again..

James_M_Croft · 2025-10-27T17:12:40+00:00

This "imposed burden" is biological in nature, none can get rid of it. It is not societal, not even the most antisocial men on earth can evade the call of nature.

An adult man cannot live without their sex drive, go for me, we all tried, all types of substances, trainings, methods, masturbations. Nothing. Ever. Works. It needs to be sex. It needs to be women. Men are stuck with it for life.

It is easier to just accept you are an adult man. You will be puppeteered. You will be betrayed, you will be hurt, you will suffer. Women are parasites and men are their host, and there is nothing you, them, me or anyone can do about it. So unless you wanna to be suffering from the multitudes of the drugs you need to function without sex, may as well accept it.

You can't live without a body, you must learn to live with it.

Title	Men are the slaves of their sexual desire, this imposed sexual desire must be completely eliminated
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