Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.

NYY15TM · 2023-10-28T16:14:55+00:00

Intelligence really has nothing to do with it

Gitsumrestmf · 2023-10-28T14:57:25+00:00

Excuses. Practice what you preach bro. If you don't like other ppl sleeping around, don't do it yourself. Start a change you want to see in society from yourself.

she doesn't even respect herself and it indicates low intelligence

I can say the same about us dudes, if we sleep around a lot.

I just really dislike it when grown men are trying to shake off accountability for their own actions. "These women should not sleep around! How dare they!". Well... yet you still want to sleep around yourself. You don't see how you are creating the problem?

Where logic?

meangingersnap · 2023-10-28T16:55:52+00:00

Why assume she’s the one being played or used? Perhaps she playing him or using him to get off with no intent to go further. PS, even a virgin will know if sex is unsatisfactory even if she’s never had previous partners

Freethinker312 · 2023-10-28T15:12:13+00:00

She gets the gifts, the flowers, the dates, the dinners, and the small gestures (and of course sex)... while his hookups only got the sex part.

It says a lot about how he views sex, if he has hookups. I don't care about the dinners and whatever gifts, if he has that view on sex, he cannot be a good husband and father, in my opinion.

Women sleep with men they know they can never have... on repeat.

Some women, not women in general.

If a woman just continually lets men play her and use her like this, she doesn't even respect herself and it indicates low intelligence.

From that, it follows that "playing" with a woman is disrespecting her. If a man plays with women with low self esteem and low intelligence, he is doing evil, is completely unsuited as a loving husband and father and should be absolutely avoided.

JNRoberts42 · 2023-10-28T21:13:46+00:00

Another discussion about “fairness” which doesn’t matter at all. When people are growing up, they date and often discover they don’t want to spend the rest of their life with their first two or three boyfriends or girlfriends. This is a typical, normal part of growing up and most people understand by the time they’ve reached 25 or so and are ready to settle into a career or home, they and everyone they might date has ex boyfriends or ex girlfriends.

Who a person falls in love with and wants to raise a family with or spend the rest of their life with us someone compatible, not someone in their “league” because what matters is common interests and common goals, not how superficially attractive they are.

ROBYoutube · 2023-10-28T15:21:23+00:00

Why would anybody want someone with these characteristics?

Why do you care? Who are these people your concerned about? How are you connected to them? Why are you using them as examples of a double standard?

One more, why would anyone want to date someone who makes a post like this?

thoseparts · 2023-10-28T18:03:01+00:00

women have standards for who they sleep with, men will fuck anything.

LillthOfBabylon · 2023-10-28T15:21:00+00:00

Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.

That just depends on what culture you’re talking about. Even amongst the West, not every country’s hookup culture is the same.

In the USA, most men and women have like 1 or 2 hookups and that’s it. Most Americans aren’t sleeping around like that.

thelajestic · 2023-10-28T23:17:46+00:00

If a woman just continually lets men play her and use her like this

This seems to be the root of the issue for a lot of you guys. I know you will never believe this, but just because a woman has sex with a man, does not mean she is being played and used.

It's far beyond your capabilities to fathom this but women like sex too. Sex is a thing men and woman can actually do together, it isn't something one does to the other. Just because you don't end up in a relationship with someone you've slept with does not mean one party has been played or used - in most cases it actually just means that two adults decided to have sex with each other with no relationship expectations. Or they just didn't fancy a relationship with each other for whatever reason - most people aren't really that compatible with each other for a relationship but that kind of compatibility isn't really needed for sex.

I know you desperately want to believe that when women can have sex and you can't, that they're being used and manipulated because the fact that they get something you don't drives you insane with jealousy. But actually - normal people like sex. Normal people have sex, with each other. You can sit on the sidelines and cry about it all you want but it doesn't change that fact.

RatchedAngle · 2023-10-28T14:58:35+00:00

His future wife never has to feel insecure since she's most likely his best partner in nearly all aspects.

The women that men “settle with” usually aren’t the best sexually that he’s ever had.

She’s usually the best mother, the best woman to have children with, the one who will give him the least amount of drama. But she’s definitely not the woman who gave him the best sex (the best sex was probably with the crazy ex who tried to slash his tires).

It’s important to note that women have been put into the same “alpha fucks, beta bucks” dynamic as men for centuries. You fuck the hottest women you can get and then settle for a woman who would be a good mother.

A woman can get the flowers and the dates and the house and the money…but she will always feel inadequate knowing she’s sexually inferior solely because she’s “wife material.”

Wife material women are inherently sexually inferior to “non-wife material” women.

That’s why women are no longer becoming wife material. Because what’s the point if he’ll always long for the crazy wild sex with his crazy wild ex girlfriends? Or porn stars? Or OF models?

Anonreddit96 · 2023-10-29T01:24:11+00:00

Who here though by the title of the post he was defending casual sex by both sexes but shocked by the actual post where they only criticizes it when done by women?

toasterchild · 2023-10-28T16:33:37+00:00

RED PILL - all women are like that, except the ones who aren't but lets pretend they don't exist for the most part because that would ruin our narrative that all women suck. FUCKING EYEROLL

You basically just described the entire point of dating except wrapped it up in a lot of manosphere soap opera made up story for no reason.

Yes, when dating you will run up against a lot of people who aren't in emotionally good places who make weird decisions, and who don't have good self-esteem. The reason you seemingly run into a lot of them is that people who have issues are most often single and looking for someone to fill their void, while secure people are all in relationships or not that stressed to find one.

They always say the good ones are hard to find, that's because good ones are often taken.

Stunning-Ad14 · 2023-10-28T17:43:24+00:00

If a person repeatedly posts low-quality topics of discourse, this also indicates low intelligence.

meangingersnap · 2023-10-28T17:09:24+00:00

Wifey treatment is making her raise the kids, do most of the chores, then cheat on her with a sugar baby who you are paying for with marital assets 😍😍😍

justsomedude5150 · 2023-10-28T23:33:40+00:00

In the real world, the majority of men aren't "sleeping around". This is nonsense propaganda unsupported by facts and studies (do your own research, I'm not your Mom). A small percentage of guys are the ones bedding a majority of the women. Facts. Study after study. The reality is that women in the West are no longer held accountable for their actions in any setting, personal or at work, and this just another case of false whataboutism and projection to allay responsible behavior. Except now, more and more men have had enough. The juice just isn't worth the squeeze. There are a lot of personality traits and conflict resolution deficiencies that develop from promiscuous behavior. No one questions steering clear of a former heroin or meth addict for the exact same reasons. And decent guys don't want that in their lives. The real issue at this point is anyone that brings this up gets shamed and called names. Do what you wanna do, but being a promiscuous woman isn't any kind of difficult. A woman that pats herself on the back for hookups is in the same category as patting yourself on the back for breathing. Get big mad all you want, but understand that being alone doesn't affect men the same as women; and being alone, having hobbies, whatever is a more attractive choice then dealing with a high body count, hypergamous woman that tend to have deceitful, aggressive, histrionic, untrustworthy behaviors. Guys are walking away because it's a rigged game with very little to no chance of winning.

No-Rough-7390 · 2023-10-28T17:31:24+00:00

OP, start loving women for what they are. Not what you want them to be. Leads to a much better life.

zerofeetpersecond · 2023-10-31T02:50:04+00:00

Sex for women = grocery shopping America

Sex for men = grocery shopping Somalia

wtknight · 2023-10-28T15:41:45+00:00

They aren't valid because the man's casual sex shows that he values promiscuity over commitment, just as the woman does. It's just that she has more of an opportunity to have sex with better looking men, but it's not like a high-value man couldn't have also had casual sex with another high-value woman who was in the mood for it.

Ok_Smile_60 · 2023-10-29T02:23:22+00:00

Chads do they. Once again, this is the pill’s core. Chad does crap, non chads face the consequences

mackenzie013_02 · 2023-10-28T17:03:51+00:00

Hottest guy != best sex though.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2023-10-28T16:04:01+00:00

Men sleep around with women (generally below his league) for easy sex until a woman comes along that checks all of his boxes physically and personality wise that makes being exclusive worth it. His future wife never has to feel insecure since she's most likely his best partner in nearly all aspects. She gets the gifts, the flowers, the dates, the dinners, and the small gestures (and of course sex)... while his hookups only got the sex part.

This is the honest truth. I had to explain this to my wife when we first got together. When a man chooses a wife, she is his top pick and the woman he is most compatible with. She is the one that gets the total investment of love, desire, provision and protection. Deep down I think women know this and this is the reason most women want to be wives and don't care about a man's past body count

WillyDonDilly69 · 2023-10-28T15:20:49+00:00

Op must be a a self hating male virgin or a delusional woman. Like do you actually believe that hot man that get sex on 1st dates don't do shit for women and somehow manipulate their way through.

When it comes to courting in general the man does it all which it is in the bemefit of the woman. That's why women date in the first place because someone focus their attention only on them and make them feel excited.

Even in casual relationships the man still is playful to his partner and gives her addictive feelings that women prefer. It is not receving the typical known and forseeable cliches of dinner flowers where you can see clearly how transactional it is, women receive something real like a new adventure.

Double standards are not valid because it makes that women receive more and men even less making it harder for anyone to date.

IFightingFrogsI · 2023-10-28T23:30:30+00:00

Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.

High IQ Straw Man

The MAJORITY of men are not sleeping with anyone

The majority of men are sexless and single

Bottom of the barrel, ugly, short, fat females hookup with above average looking men and then think all men are living as those above average men

The shamelessness of the hypocrisy

ComfortableOk5003 · 2023-10-28T16:25:40+00:00

I’d say most women don’t know they can never have a guy

Safinated · 2023-10-28T16:27:33+00:00

Double standards are valid only if people believe they are

And I do not

CasseroleTruck · 2023-10-28T17:23:08+00:00

Double standards are valid in these discussions in many cases b/c men and women are different. Men and women want different things in women and men, respectively.

ChiBron86 · 2023-10-28T18:11:44+00:00

This is honestly a very accurate summary of intersexual dynamics. Particularly today. Most casual sex men have (the few that do so) will be with women well beneath them. The man's somewhat excited because he finally gets to fuck while the woman's ecstatic because she's with someone she considers a genuine catch. Although she's deluded enough to not see the SMV difference between the two.

Since the guy's a catch, she wants/hopes for something more than just sex, whereas the man considers her nothing more than a hole because she's beneath him.

Men are incapable of respecting or catching feelings for women less attractive than them. They'll fuck 'em, sure, but that's where it ends. Women would save themselves a lot of heartbreak if they understood this.

Ok_Grapefruit_631 · 2023-10-28T15:49:28+00:00

Women sleep with men they simply don’t want to date all the time…

A_little_patience · 2023-10-28T16:35:19+00:00

That’s has been my experience with MILFs. An old fling eventually settled down with an well off $$$ attorney, almost 10 years older than her. She seemed out his league IMO, thus he quickly put a ring on it.

Pyroblasts · 2023-10-30T13:12:10+00:00

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throwawaypls2020 · 2023-10-29T06:03:12+00:00

But when women don't put out, y'all get angry lol

Yomzie_hun · 2023-10-28T17:16:18+00:00

You clearly look down on women. Shame on you!

Thrice_Banned80 · 2023-10-28T15:45:32+00:00

I dunno man, I'm a dude and I've fucked people that I'm pretty sure hated me because I was a piece of shit, but then again I don't think of the world as having "leagues" or meaningful limitations when it comes to dating either.
Marry someone who orgasms easily; most people don't even try so you'll be the best lay of her life.

MateriallyDetatched · 2023-10-28T21:54:51+00:00

There honestly isn't anything that impressive about men getting laid and the expectation that men need to take whatever crumb of pussy they can get is the most annoying thing of all time.

Sure, it's way harder to get laid if you don't have a vagina; even then I see it with my own past and my guy friends, the women they get with are not in their league and I hate to say it, but sometimes my guy friends date bitches that are just not it and I want to scream at them and tell them they deserve a girl who is way finer and has a better personality.

Women aren't magically programmed to be turned off by virgin men and want Chad and Tyrone who fuck around. It's just that the likelyhood of a hoe being a woman is much greater than it being a man, and someone who has a lot of sexual experience is never going to be satisfied with anything. That's why promiscuous women have a much harder time holding down a relationship on average. People who value sex too much in a relationship are only in it for one thing. Ideally, you and your partner grow together sexually.

There are definitely women who get jealous over men's past. Don't drive past the park or restaraunt you went on date with someone else lol. God forbid the idea of another woman kissing/fucking you. Women definitely can get jealous; don't be fooled by sluts who want everyone to cater to their unwise behavior.

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ConceptMajestic9156 · 2023-10-28T15:21:03+00:00

A woman is walking through the park when she sees a very attractive man sitting on a park bench. He's reading a book and eating some fruit out of a Tupperware container. Slowly the woman gathers the courage to go ask the man out. So, she walks over and takes a seat next to him on the bench, turns to him and says, "Sorry to bother you. I know this may be a little forward but I would love to grab coffee with you some time." Flattered, the man responds, "Sure... but what makes you so certain you and I would get along so well?"

"Well," the woman says, "A couple things, actually. I noticed you were wearing an Iron Maiden t-shirt. Iron Maiden are my favourite band of all time. When they went on their reunion tour in 1999 my parents took me to see them in Cleveland. I was 12 years old, it was the first concert I ever went to. I absolutely love Iron Maiden. "

The man can't believe it. "I saw them play Cleveland in '99! First concert I ever went to on my own. My best friend Jimmy Spitz and I told our parents we were sleeping at each others' houses, snuck out, took a bus into the city and saw them play at the Plain Dealer Pavillion!" Naturally, they're both shocked.

"If that isn't weird enough," says the woman, "I noticed you're reading Mark Twain. I was a communications major in university and I actually wrote my thesis on Mark Twain, how he used satire as a lens to comment on current events of the time, comparing him to satirical news sources of today. He's my favourite author"

Now the man is really taken aback, "Get out of here. I was an English major in university! I specialized in 19th century American literature, this is like my fourth or fifth time reading Tom Sawyer, I absolutely love Mark Twain."

They both can't believe it, this has got to be a match made in heaven.

"Ok," the woman says, "well, buckle up because here's the icing on the cake. I noticed you're eating a prune. Prunes are my absolute favourite fruit. When I was a kid, my grandfather lived on a farm. He had an orchard that mainly grew apples and some lemons, but he knew how much my sister and I loved prunes so he kept a couple of plum trees. Every year at the end of the summer, we'd go up and harvest the plums with him. He'd dry them and by the time we'd go back to his place for Thanksgiving he'd always have those prunes saved just for us. They're my favourite fruit! I love prunes, you're eating a prune, this has got to be fate. What do you say?"

The man puts down his fruit and responds,

"It's a date."

jaybalvinman · 2023-10-28T19:13:48+00:00

I dont know why that first part of your post triggered me so much.

SeveralLiterature980 · 2023-10-28T21:22:19+00:00

The OP fails to support its own claim about the validity of double standards

So men fuck women beneath them Women relationship men they settle for

Double standards are valid?

macone235 · 2023-10-28T22:17:07+00:00

Women don't sleep with men they can never date. They sleep with men that don't want to date them - big difference. Only men sleep with people they would never date.

Women as per usual, do the opposite. They get in relationships with men they would never casually have sex with, because they aren't actually attracted to them, and then they use them for security. This makes double standards valid, because they exist in the opposite-fashion for both sexes.

Something-bothersome · 2023-10-28T22:21:01+00:00

Does the motive / standard really matter though? It appears you are saying that both men and women are having sex prior to marriage and it’s pretty common to the degree that anything else it very unusual.

That’s it, full stop, the rest doesn’t matter after that. That girl who ticked all your boxes and you brought dinner and married and so on by default of the first statement has probably had sex with someone prior to meeting you - as both men and women are commonly having sex prior to marriage.

Very very few people these days are not having sex prior to marriage. Whether you determine it’s a good thing, a bad thing, good for men/bad for women, bad for men/good for women, and how you feel about it that is not going to change. People are having sex prior to marriage.

You can only choose from the options on the table as with anything in life. One option it appears is to meet, have sex (probably prior to marriage), date and choose a long term partner from a population of people who, as you have stated, commonly have sex prior to marriage. The other option is to not.

Wolvengirla88 · 2023-10-29T00:24:23+00:00

Women sleep with all kinds of people. I’ve hooked up with all kinds of people depending how I felt and who was around. People stand around judging other people when they’re jealous and it’s sad.

SteveSan82 · 2023-10-29T08:00:47+00:00

But women sleep with those guys thinking they have a chance. That’s why some rapper was able to nut on some bimbos face and have her do a video call with her boyfriend. She actually thought the rapper wanted her

lvoncreek · 2023-10-29T11:35:55+00:00

Why do people assume a woman having casual sex is automatically someone using her? What if she really just wants to have sex at the moment and thats it? Its not always that deep.

Nellylocheadbean · 2023-10-29T12:01:57+00:00

Doesn’t this imply that the man she marries she is settling for? The man marries the best woman in his eyes while the woman marries him just because.

Nihi1986 · 2023-10-29T12:34:26+00:00

I wouldn't blame everything on the women, those men are often pretending to be interested and open to the idea of something more, though I know often they are honest and the woman still thinks she can change his mind through sex (sorry, that's not how it works...).

If they sometimes damage themselves beyond repair that's not exclusively their fault, though I think it takes some instrospection and work to realize that those players are above your league, using you and will be at best settling for you and not be the best husbands/dads...

Turbulent-Tonight975 · 2023-10-29T21:08:24+00:00

I will start by saying I think lots of sexual partners is damaging for both men and women, but for very different reasons.

Women and men do not get each other because we live such different lives. Men will never understand the reality women have in always having the option of having sex if they want it, even with guys way more desirable than them who otherwise would never date them. Men also cannot understand how so many women have such unrealistic expectations of their (women's) own dating value and how they understand that just because a guy will sleep with you doesn't mean he will date you. This is because men and the world give other men honest feedback that if a dude ain't shit he isn't going to have another other than his mother lying to him and talking him up. A woman way overweight and not pretty can get a very attractive guy to sleep with her if she offers it with no effort on his part. Womens friends also will talk her up and tell her she is pretty and amazing, even when they know its not true.

Women don't understand why men have such a fixation on sex, because getting sex is nothing for women other than asking. Its the analogy of why a billionaire is talking to someone making minimum wage asking why the minimum wage worker checks his bank account every day concerned with overdrafting or not having any money; the billionaire doesn't worry because he is never running out of funds.

A high body count from women means that she will have access to a caliber of men far better than those that are willing to date or commit to her and is at risk of only finding attractive the top tier men she has zero chance of gaining committement from. A high body count from men will make it so they struggle with faithful momogamy because sexual variety is something these men will crave. For men, this doesn't even mean women 'better' than their wives or girlfriends. I have known quite a few men in this boat who craved sleeping with someone else other than their partner, even if trhe other women was way uglier than his partner, just craving some sexual variety and a different partner.

daddysgotanew · 2023-10-30T11:52:16+00:00

The ticket to success in this realm is to make sure you fuck her as soon as possible. If she lets you hit it within the first few hours of knowing her, she’s at least giving you the same chance she gave other men, and she’s physically attracted to you at a minimum.

Title	Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.
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Date	October 28, 2023 2:41 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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