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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:44 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:07 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:04 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:27 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:27 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:35 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:15 PM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:43 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:02 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:23 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 10:55 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:18 PM
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Purge CMV!LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:47 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 02:17 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:45 PM
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NYE Purge Post!LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:55 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:21 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:10 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:30 PM
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Question For WomenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 08:05 PM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 09:47 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:19 AM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:05 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:38 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:50 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:55 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:23 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:53 AM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:29 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:04 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:59 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:42 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:56 PM
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Question For WomenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 10:39 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:53 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 10:36 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:06 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:49 PM
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If you were sold a very strict set of banal platitudinal rules with no nuance, then it kinda feels like you need to be an “asshole” to get what you want. I love that you didn't pay attention to the conversation you kept responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 01:29 AM

Morals, aka lines in the sand, shift constantly. Sounds more like they weren't good people. you still think morals are a priority Then dont go around calling yourself good nor other people good if they're okay being around terrible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 01:27 AM

It's not wrong for men or women to care about looks But it’s not other people’s fault that’s what you only care about at the expense of moral standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 10:38 PM

I know how women use apps. If they did not like first picture or height they swipe left. Sounds more like the women you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 09:57 PM

It's the implication of every argument you make. "These men just want bad women" You implied those women are pretty. Now I had a feeling it was because those women are attractive to you guys, but thanks for confirming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 09:54 PM

Or overlook someone's bad tendencies for any number of reasons? Because he’s hot? No. Birds? I've only ever heard scottish people call women birds Back in the day, we call them Pick Mes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 09:18 PM

First impression is you first picture and height. That's it. If that’s all you’re showing on your profile, that says a lot. I admit I set "short term fun" ………………………… I mean, thanks for admitting your first claim was a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 09:11 PM

Your "criticism" of women was they they have no moral convictions because...they're not feminists? Thanks for showing you weren’t actually reading the conversation. Meanwhile the men are assholes for wanting pretty women Copy and paste where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 09:10 PM

You just claimed I don’t talk shit about women, and you’re just replying to me talking shit about women. I guess it doesn’t count to you because I’m saying it says a lot about you guys that you want women who are absolute shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 08:53 PM

Why would a girl go on a date with me when there are 100 other men on apps Your mindset says alot. Also, that had nothing to do with your initial claim. If you don't get dates - it is looks. I don’t know why you guys keep assuming a first impression has to only be about looks. I’m guessing it’s easier than to admit how you expressed yourself on apps is also a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 08:49 PM

Lol so as always with you, men are damned if they do and damned if they don't Such as? Can you even point to where I did that? If men want women that aren't some abstract moral perfection That’s fine that he doesn't, but he can’t blame women for the type of shitty women he wants. That’s his fault. It’s not Mommy‘s fault that he won’t date the feminists Mommy wants him to date. That’s his own choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 08:43 PM

What I'm disagreeing with is the way criticism is given because it makes it seem like they could nearly NEVER be good guys without altering basically every element and inch of their personality But it comes down to if they understand their behavior is unacceptable and that they should want to do less of it. Part of being a good person is accountability and wanting to do better. they've got some pretty bad asshole traits that need to go. They have to also want them to go. Otherwise, they’re just …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 08:40 PM

I’m trying to figure out if you don’t understand that fake people exist or that people with actual strong, moral convictions exist. Are you aware that both types of people exist? It’s your choice to want the fake ones, but that says more about you, not women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 08:24 PM

Smartphones almost all use certain conflict minerals And choosing not to be around low quality women with loose morals is a lot easier. It’s also easier to take accountability for yourself for choosing those women. Like I said, women with strong, moral convictions, typically want men who have a stronger sense of personal accountability than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 07:45 PM

Yeah everyone’s a POS That’s usually said by pieces of shit who don’t want to hold themselves accountable for their own actions and the consequences that brings. Very much the type of guys that most people call out. Children usually are Most dont want to be around a guy who still acts like a child ed wants to keep acting like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 07:36 PM

Women are done accepting any asshole behavior just for the sake of a relationship This is a constant problem I keep seeing. A lot of people in the sub have a very high tolerance of asshole behavior that most people generally don’t have, especially people who actually care about morals and have moral conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 07:30 PM

And men complain about women not having accountability. Those men lack accountability, too, that’s the irony. Those are usually the guys other people call out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 07:18 PM

I’m reluctant to continue this conversation because I shouldn’t be explaining the obvious, so this will be my last response. If a straight man says he’s bitter about dating and resentful about getting rejected, he’s trying to date women, so he’s bitter about dating women and resentful when women reject him. That’s misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 07:16 PM

I’m curious what you would tell a woman in feudal Europe. “Just wait for one of the good ones” Are you implying that you know that the women you want ARE SHIT? Sometimes you gotta live pragmatically (to your point) and play the hand your dealt So yes. Thing is, women with moral convictions also want men who believe in personal accountability. So it makes sense you’re not seeing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 07:10 PM

It’s “ew I hate when guys do x” then if a guy doesn’t do that problematic thing then the lady is confused and bored. So back to when I said, you guys seem to like women with no moral convictions. Funny enough, that is related to you not wanting women who are actually feminist like your mom seems to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:41 PM

I already addressed this previously, I think the problem is a lot of mothers coddle their sons so it makes their sons never question things. Because why question the person telling you you’re God’s to earth? Because I’m getting really tired of adults not updating what their mom told them and acting like it’s some fucking massive revelation that you weren’t told everything as a child and we’re kind of expected a piece of shit together as you got older. It’s not Mommy‘s fault you’re not dating wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:22 PM

OK, so you guys aren’t concerned about finding someone to like you. You want a harem. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:20 PM

Nobody’s perfect is a fact Lack of accountability. That’s something men also complain about other men not having, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:18 PM

And now that I think about it, maybe he finds women disappointing So he’s a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:16 PM

Everyone is entitled Exactly what entitled people say. I’m noticing a pattern of people here having a very high tolerance of shitty people that most people do not actually have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:14 PM

Anyways, being an inconsiderate, selfish asshole, doesn’t make anybody complex and misunderstood. Having a bad day is not an excuse. If it was actually a bad day, you apologize and you make sure it doesn’t happen again. You don’t use that nobody’s perfect bullshit response.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:13 PM

And the fact so many of these so-called good men want those women says those guys aren’t good at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:12 PM

How are you supposed to initiate romance if you’re not even allowed to look at someone? What are you talking about? Are you obviously looking at someone’s tits in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:10 PM

I gotta tell you “I’m picking you up what’s your address” works way better than “are you comfortable with me picking you up, may I have your address So similar to what I have been saying, the women you wanted to date, didn’t give a fuck about your feminist upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:08 PM

I mean, if you don’t even know a popular character and think I made that up, that kind of says a lot about how observant you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:06 PM

They have one or two fatal asshole traits. They are not an asshole in total. If you knew them, you would not be like "Chuck is an asshole". Those traits are still on unpleasant and annoying to be around. I have dealt with guys with those types of traits. I only kept being friends with them because they apologized and stopped doing that around me. Not everyone has the same type of tolerance for that type of behavior. No, it's what people with self-awareness say So they know they’re being assholes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:00 PM

If a woman thinks attractiveness matters more than someone’s morals, that woman doesnt care about morals and she’s not a good person. And since you can’t counter that, this is the end of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:43 PM

I'm talking about dating and romantic Why is that friendship qualities as being shallow? No one told you guys that attraction had anything to do with morals. So please stop repeating that shit. That is shit guys bought up themselves because some individual women said that good morals were sexy to them as individuals. You wanting someone to find you sexually attractive has absolutely nothing to do with morals. Stop it. If a woman thinks attractiveness matters more than someone’s morals, that woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:29 PM

But “I’m bitter about dating,” “I’m resentful about being rejected, The guys saying that are straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:26 PM

No not really being unattractive reduces your chances So? Didnt change a single thing I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:22 PM

No one cares about this platitude Then guys wouldn’t have came up with nice guys finish last. So you’re automatically wrong and lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:20 PM

The truth is though that a lot of things people drew hard lines about are more like guidelines than actual rules. And that brings me to another thing I keep seeing, not only do I see a problem with guys who aren’t really observing reality, the same guy seems to be drawn to women who don’t have moral conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:19 PM

I think it is a valid gripe that people were raised to be a certain way that makes you a good worker bee But nobody told them the bare minimum of being an adult was going to guarantee them being seen as sexy. you were sold a very strict set of banal platitudinal rules with no nuance Why didn’t they learn that nuance past elementary school? then it kinda feels like you need to be an “asshole” to get what you want That’s the problem, they’re going by how they’re feeling. Not actually what’s realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:15 PM

what I'm saying is that only caring about personality is bad UH, FRIENDS?! Is being FRIENDS a bad thing now?! REALLY?!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:10 PM

The world doesn't work in black and white thinking. Assholes constantly say they are complex instead of actually being good people You can be a good person and care about finding the person you want to form a romantic relationship with physically attractive When is at the expense of morals, no they’re not. Besides, only caring about personality is as bad as being shallow There’s nothing more to say at that point. Imagine implying caring about personality is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:10 PM

If you don't get dates - it is looks. I don’t get why you guys live in a fantasy where absolutely no one vets for personality before agreeing on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:04 PM

You don’t have to look like Quasimodo to be below average looking So they’re not hideous. They could get an ugly woman, but they have to have a decent personality too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:03 PM

It’s time to grow up. Little boys who always think they’re Kratos do need to grow up, I agree. These guys are not a misunderstood traumatized hurt man, theyre just selfish pricks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:02 PM

Not as entitled as women So they’re fine being entitled, they’re just using misogyny as an excuse to be entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:01 PM

Many (most?) men who struggle with dating are not assholes in the sense that they treat people like shit. Many just lack confidence and social aptitude Its typically both. They’re passive on the outside and pieces of shit on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:00 PM

So they’re not good people. They’re shallow. Ironically, you guys are the one putting women you like on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:57 PM

Morals isn't in the equation For a good person, it is. So these are not good women. They were chasing guys who treated them poorly You’re implying they did so because these guys are hot, this shows a lack of morals and self respect. In today’s lingo, most would call them birds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:54 PM

claim. If someone repeatedly advocates for CSA or praises Epstein, then yes The fact that you’re implying that’s OK to do even once……. But “I’m bitter about dating,” “I’m resentful about being rejected,” or “I’m hopeless about ever finding someone” doesn’t establish that bitterness or resentment is someone’s entire personality. The fact that you’re implying people should be OK with someone who is sexist due to any sort of bitterness and resentment……
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:49 PM

You’re assuming the person in question has average looks Because when I bring up looking like the hunchback of Notre Dame, I’m always told no. So they’re not hideous, they’re just not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:49 PM

Many say they will date a guy if he's kind and compasisonate, or whatever else. That's what's always said. It’s not women’s fault that a bunch of misogynists are bad judges of characters. Dumb ass men wanting to fuck fake women who lied to them is not the fault of the entire female gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:48 PM

Humans are not “drones” who are either programmed to have good personalities or bad personalities This is just an excuse asshole say to sound more complex than they actually are. It’s not that hard to be a good person. You just have to not be a piece of shit and actually comprehend being a compassionate generous person. Becoming an asshole because no one wanted to fuck him means he was always an asshole. He was just motivated by vagina to pretend to be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:46 PM

Had a friend in college who was 6'2 tall, extremely insecure, absolutely could NOT talk to people properly much less approach someone, men or women So pretty privlege? This is showing that women don’t lie as much as you guys claim they do, you guys just don’t want to read/hear what they’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:39 PM

I also don’t think it’s fair to infer someone’s entire personality from posts they make Sir, there are people making comments how Epstein did nothing wrong and suggesting CSA as a solution to inceldom. Someone can express bitterness, resentment, or hopelessness about dating Sir. Those are personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:35 PM

How are they good people if morals didn’t matter to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:33 PM

That means their personality sucks even more, because they were only going to act right because they felt entitled to pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:33 PM

Like sincerely, why are they mad about those women self-selecting out of their dating pool? Because they don’t care about morals themselves. The fantasy I see from fiction created by men for male consumption is that a mistreated female sees how the mediocre main character treats her and she worships his mediocre treatment of her, despite just being bare minimum human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:32 PM

And usually, they all fit a similar pattern more or less: obsessive about childish things, hyper-competitive and petty when losing, disagreeable over random and unpredictable things, Those are asshole traits. lazy, cowardly, or they have very poor judgement over who would actually be into them. Being lazy and cowardly can still make someone an asshole depending on the situation. And how someone judges a person can also make them an asshole, that’s where we get the word prejudice from. But here's…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:28 PM

So why was the guy still bitching about how little options he had?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 02:59 PM

Keep in mind, being sexually attractive, and actually getting sex from somebody are not the same thing. Also, I dont know how many men would actually overlook an average woman’s red flags to sleep with her. It’s more men who think that way than women, but I don’t know if that’s even the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 02:57 PM

But that's my point: YOU are the one equating dating being hard for men with those men having literally no options. DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 02:48 PM
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So men claiming they have no options is a lie and theyre not more reasonable than women. Theyre picky too,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:29 PM
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They don’t have to be whiny little bitches either blaming society for not giving them what they THINK theyre entitled to, but here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:26 PM
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Btw,another example of that gaslighting was claiming that CSA was suggestion to solve inceldom and called it merely a “mild hypothetical” when criticized about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:25 PM
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Then people will keep criticizing them and telling them why their complaints are stupid and self-inflicted. oh well. Just like people dont tolerate Karens people dont tolerate a bunch of entitled little shits wanting to be misogynistic over their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:20 PM
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Then they can STFU about having no options,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:18 PM
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Then stop complaining about dating. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:17 PM
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You didn't really state why the have to lower their standards Because they less options than women. All of your examples are still wanting to do so. Exactly,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:39 PM
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Even men with a lot of options often engage with average women just for the thrill of a new bang So either: Women dont find casual sex appealling. He’s not as attractive as you’re implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:39 PM
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Why do you think it's unreasonable for a man to claim he has no options that are similar to himself? Thats not what they say. They say they NO OPTIONS. PERIOD. Just like in that video I posted, the guy is complaining how hard it is to date as a man, while he ignored the majority of the women he matched with. Keep in mind he swiped right on 40% of the women, when he could’ve easily swiped on 80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:32 PM
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So then, why do men keep bringing up that they have lower standards and they’re less picky than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:27 PM
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The argument that men generally have a lower threshold for casual as opposed to serious relationships is true. What’s prideful about that? Because why your guy is acting like that’s a prideful thing to do? Women are more reluctant to want something casual than guys. So what’s cool about that? It is also overstated by men online how open they are to conventionally unattractive women But they’re not, that’s my other thing. They act like it’s a prideful thing that they’re allegedly more reasonable …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:23 PM
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I just showed you guys a video of what I was talking about. So are you implying that I made the entire video up? I paid other guys to make that video so I can somehow make all men look bad? Is that your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:19 PM
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You didn't answer his question I’m not entertaining an argument when it’s based on a lie. I never said men bad, so we need to iron that out first because that’s what the rest of the argument is gonna be based on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:18 PM
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Most fat men have no problem with a fat woman though How did that change a single thing I said? the average fit guy has very few quality options No he doesnt. Fat womem don’t stop being options just because you don’t like them. Stop redefining things just to fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:13 PM
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Seeing as you have bought up fatties, my forever question is why would a woman who’s always moaning she cant get no good man, prefer food to getting slim? Same reason guys complain about women with terrible morals, but continue to want those women with terrible morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:03 PM
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But with that being said, if I feel I lowered my standards, the relationship is going to be more short term and you’re not going to be any kind of priority. That didnt actually disagree with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:02 PM
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I have consistently held high standards So? That didn’t change a single thing I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:00 PM
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Who are the people that claimed that men WANT to lower their standards? Men in this sub while trying to complain how picky women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:00 PM
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The twisting definitions come from fat women who want a fit partner But we’re talking about guys who claimed they just want an average woman and don’t want to acknowledge that the average woman in their country is fat. That’s one of the things I’m talking about. Where a guy says that he’s reasonable but what he think is reasonable is actually an IG model. The idea that fit men should date fat women is just incel rhetoric for women I just don’t want to hear the fit guy says he has no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:57 PM
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When someone says “I’m not picky, I’d date anyone”, they THINK it sounds virtuous, but in reality they’re saying “I don’t care about who you are or what you do, I’ll date you even if you suck because I don’t want to be single.” But even they don’t believe that shit. They just want to feel virtuous while actually hating doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:36 PM
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I said more than just looks. And if that’s all you’re thinking about, then that is a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:35 PM

I’m confused what that picture supposed to show me? Because they’re right. Notice that conversation wasn’t in the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 10:49 AM

I literally have never seen a woman be held accountable or even volunteer accountability for relationship issues. Guys here dont do that, so what do you mean men take accountability more? Guys here do the very same thing. 90% of the things complained about guys do it. Woman complains how “men aint shit” because of her bad taste and bad choices? You guys cry “All Women Are Like That” because you only wanna talk to the women in your shitty neighborhoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:28 PM
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And there’s no point in men gloating about the trait they allegedly have. You basically exposed how full of shit men are when they complain about their dating issues. Theyre simply low quality and think far more highly of themselves than other people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:59 PM
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Then men dont lack options, so why do they lie about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:50 PM
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r/whoosh So do you have an actual argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:49 PM
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You guys seem to have a very low bar for good traits and a very high bar for bad triats, when its actually the other way around for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:45 PM
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Having multiple meanings does not make every meaning applicable in every context If you care about objectivity, you can’t ignore one of those meanings just because you don’t like it. Pleasantness is part of one meaning of agreeable Then stop arguing with the dictionary. You don’t get to change the dictionary just because you don’t like it. You know, when you’re trying to talk to people, a lot of things have to actually be objective, not whatever subjectivity you want to bring into a conversation…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:58 PM
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They are the ones that you imply to lower their standards Did you read what I wrote? For example, I had this guy complaining how it’s very lonely for introverted guys to not get a girlfriend because they’re more mature, they were parentified early, so they’re more responsible, and are more boring so women won’t date them. But then when I brought up dating older responsible women, the response was basically “why would I do that?”. So it’s not that those types of guys are undateable, they simply d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:52 PM
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"Disagreeable” has more than one meaning. It can describe someone unpleasant Unpleasant is still one of them. You don’t get to ignore one meaning just because you don’t like it. Being pleasant is not the same as being compliant Part of being agreeable is being pleasant. You don’t get to change definitions just because you don’t like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:41 PM
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You are collapsing being disagreeable with being unpleasant As the definition does too. A man can be kind, friendly, emotionally stable, and generous So AGREEABLE.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:21 PM
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And that kind of mindset is what most women don’t want to be around. Because it also a sense of entitlement asking for women to risk danger for a guy who thinks he’s special.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:15 PM
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Because a person who is truly struggling is gonna keep their options way more open that. Also, it’s weird for a guy to complain that women don’t appreciate a guy who has his shit together, even though he hasn’t tried to go after older women, who are more likely to want a guy who has his shit together. Like I said, guys like to complain about how hard it is to date, but it’s very clear they just wish they were as picky as women can be. The issue was guys constantly lying about what they’re actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:14 PM
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The exact same can be said about women who talk badly about men Guys here pretend they’re any better than the women they bitch about. They’re just male karens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:12 PM
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Because they are the women complaining about the quality of their options That implies these guys know that they’re low quality. So they’re too lazy to make themselves more appealing? Then wanna complain about women? Which proves even further than men are the ones who are more willing to lower their standards Trash lowering its standards to get other trash is common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:06 PM
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thanks for also proving that older women indeed reject those guys How would they know when theyre rejecting those women first?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:56 PM
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That statement was over generalized. Its more like men like the ones in this sub and in the manosphere dont give a fuck about anything other than looks. The other thing is more likely to have acquaintances they do hobbies with and call those friends. It’s easy to be friends with somebody when you keep them at a distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:53 PM
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From my experience, the guys who hate on single moms the most are the guys who are single and they typically will talk shit about stepdads.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:32 PM
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This assumptions comes out of nowhere Then they should have no problem wanting to date women outside of their age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:29 PM
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Don't back down now Back down on what? I agree it was wrong of me to compare them to 12 year old girls. 12 was way too high, this mindset is elementary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:24 PM
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No one has to date people they are attracted to. Exactly. Look at gold diggers. Most women (includes older) have plenty of options Struggling men complain about not having options while rejecting plenty of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:16 PM
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Don’t worry, I have changed what I said. This is eight year-old behavior. Because I’m very confident a 12-year-old girl is more mature than this. Don’t think a 12-year-old ego is this fragile, but I do think eight year-old boys and girls ego is this fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:10 PM
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No, because age brackets are not standards No one has to stay within their age bracket, that is a choice they are making. Ok, there's still something * seriously wrong if they can't attract a good quality men Just like most men aren’t struggling with dating, most women aren’t complaining about quality. They’re complaining how hard dating is, which men also complain about. Again, trying to date within your age bracket it's not being picky You can still choose not to and cast up much wider net to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:06 PM
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Dating within your own age bracket is not a standard. If men were actually struggling with dating, they would take anybody. You’re not struggling with dating so if you’re still picky. Besides, there's something SERIOUSLY WRONG with older women if even men who struggle with dating don't want to date them, That’s only assumption that older women are struggling with dating. Older women just complain about the quality of men, not the quantity. Struggling guys complain about the quantity, and then pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:54 PM
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I’m very sorry for claiming they’re acting like 12 year-old girls. They’re just acting like eight-year-olds. And that’s still weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:51 PM
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“ If you had sais "12 year old" this could be true” Yes you wete. THAT WEIRD. You should find it weird that a man still wants to be 12 and then blames society for the fact that he stays 12 that should be the real concern, not the fact that people won’t soothe his fragile male ego. That’s weird. Then you showed your hand that you partake in shaming men's masculinity Its not society’s fault he has a fragile male ego. THAT IS WEIRD. EDIT: at this point, I think 12 was too old. I think this is the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:49 PM
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If you compared them to boys or children it would be an insult of immaturity I was, you were just super chill with that comparison until I said they were acting like little girls. Like I said, that says a lot about the mindset of these guys. It is not other people’s fault they have such a fragile ego. it’s not society‘s fault they didn’t grow up. At best, blame mommy because mommy should have taught them to get over themselves and stop trying to sit at the cool kids table.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:40 PM
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Dating within your age bracket it's not being picky tho. A person who is actually struggling with dating would be willing to lower their standards. Men are not struggling with dating if they’re not willing to actually lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:35 PM
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A man’s pickiness does not translate to something being wrong with women,
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:32 PM
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Would you date a man who's much younger than you? I just got committed to a guy that’s five years younger than me. No surprises there. See? No point in complaining how hard dating is when you’re gonna be that picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:29 PM
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It just seems weird that you guys wanna go about how awesome you are, and yet you can’t find any women who want those things just because you’re not as hot as a supermodel? And like I said, I watched a video about a dating experiment showing how hard it is for men to date, the man set his age preference between 18 and 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:25 PM
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The unique value is you offer your preferences and opinions without bending to others No one cares unless you agree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:20 PM
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And I'm secondarily frustrated that the pool of women worth dating is so small, and that so many of the women in that pool will pre-judge me for the actions of other men I immediately blocked a guy who thought like that because he made it very clear he didn’t give a fuck that I was trying to keep myself safe. Because who the fuck does he think he is thinking I should risk being in danger just for him? It shows a lack of empathy and a willingness to overstep boundaries. Dating older women is esse…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:09 PM
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Or more likely that older women wouldn't date him themselves. The men who complain have yet to shown they even tried to. Because there was a video talking about how hard dating was by using an experiment, the guys dating age range was 18 to 24. Meanwhile, he was complaining how women weren’t appreciative of how accomplished he was at age 22. If you’re going to make maturity and responsibility such a big part of you being desirable, it seems very weird to not try to appeal to go to demographic th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:07 PM
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I think people who say being nice is weakness were mostly people who were onec taken advantage by people, and i won't say that they were "nice guy", But that's not a unique experience. That's an extremely common human experience. What's NOT common is making that one's whole personality, justifying being a piece of shit, and then wonder why he's constantly alone. It's like guys who make a highschool/middleschool break up their own personality. When is the 30+ year old going to get the fuck over i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:11 PM
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I hope you're not talking about you, because you didn't provide anything except you telling me I should admit what I already know. But it's a debate, so I have to give others a chance to show that it was definitely not men being innocent victims of criticism. Because the other replies I got still wont give context.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:03 PM

its just that I have never met one that was held accountable for her actions in the same way a man was. Look how fast this comment became obsolete now that I showed how little personal accountability this subreddit displays. Also, you have no proof of that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:00 PM
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If you had sais "12 year old" this could be true, The fact you would have been okay with these GROWN ASS MEN being compared to 12 year old boys says alot. I now understand when feminists bring up the fragile male ego, it's this. It is not society's fault that A GROWN ASS MAN acts like a child. That is the fault of his parents and/or his undiagnosed disability. This actually goes back to what I said: Most young people (in the West atleast) arent demanding that men become emotionless. People just …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 12:44 PM
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Thinking that people not wanting to be around you = "lower your standards" That has nothing to do with eh conversation, you intentionally diverted the conversation to have something to argue about, but it's not entertaining. So gonna mute this conversation now. To recap: "Because most people dont want to be around a guy who gets so offended by hearing “incels should lower their standard” that they immediately suggests CSA as a “mild hypothetical”." No one tells these things to Incels IRL because…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:27 AM
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So you are acknowledging women do still need men as much as men need women, You're not explaining what "need" is. We're no longer in the caveman days. Guns are a thing and society's safe enough so needing to fight vicious beasts isn't a big deal anymore. as I do protect women but I still face hate from them, How about NOT sounding entitled? Because most heroes get praised for heroism. The fact you aren't is suspicious. Like "The suspect was unarmed and didn't need to be gunned down" type of susp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:25 AM
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Calling men 12 year-old little girls is a masculine shaming attempt Then why keep acting like 12 year old girls if that's insulting? You've done what you've been saying doesn't happen. What are you talking about? I've been not giving a fuck about gender norms and dont cry when I feel obligated to solely because I sometimes want the perks of adhering to it. Just like I dont cry from the consequences of NOT adhering to it. Personal responsibility is AN ADULT quality. Right now you are trying to sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:13 AM
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It's irrelevant No one wanting to be close to incels is relevant. It's just IRL, people wont give you feedback. They'll simply not be around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:05 AM
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Additionally, crying and sobbing about how offensive I am Yes, most people dont find suggesting CSA to be disgusting and says something very disturbing about a person who thinks about CSA just because men are told they dont lower their standards enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:03 AM
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People have their own ways to define words, More reasons to not continue. Basically "I wont let facts get in the way of my feelings".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:02 AM
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Its about respect. You respect yourself. Which means most people respect themselves enough to not tolerate being around a disagreeable person, especially one with no unique value to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 12:33 AM
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Trouble with that is how testosterone causes singular focus. Thank you for saying this. I now have proof that "men take responsibility more" is buillshit they tell themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 12:01 AM
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its just that I have never met one that was held accountable for her actions in the same way a man was. Guy here just blamed hormones for when guys obsess over relationship at the expense of enjoying life. It's so weird you guys hold this belief men take accountability more while showing a victim complex to the most obvious examples of self-inflicted problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 12:00 AM
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..............I'm not going to entertain this very long. Sexual Diphorism became a thing because women were focused on carrying the children. Without men, the human species would be evolved into some sort of asexual species that are able to work while they carry children. Keep in mind Female Hyena are more dominant than the males. And if a man protects a woman from a violent man, saying "but men are the ones you need protection from anyway" shouldn't invalidate the protection When you're trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:29 PM
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Maybe women should just stop caring so little about decency, and/or stop complaining about men being shitty people if they are going to keep rewarding them in romance Men wanting to fuck trashy women who fuck trashy dudes is not a society. It's a personal problem. Women never told men to chase women with low morals standards. That's a reflection of men's own low moral standards. Who told men to chase their bully's girlfriend and then try getting her pussy wet by being nice to her? Who told men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:18 PM
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Its not that I hate women, its just that I have never met one that was held accountable for her actions in the same way a man was. I rest my case. It's basically the same as "I met an asshole every morning, noon, night, going south, west, north, east....clearly I'm not the problem!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:14 PM
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Asking to be spoonfed otherwise you play dumb? Fair. I know the answer is "I'm lonely because women want assholes and not me, the good guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:12 PM
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That someone who thinks Tate is a manosphere poster boy in 2026 You don't get to rewrite history just because it's unfavorable. Before Tate, the redpill were just as bad, it's just it was easier to shrug off because the redpill wasn't in the public eye back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:11 PM
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It’s because a lot of people confuse disagreeableness with confidence Not confusion, it’s intentional. It doesn’t take much to click on Google and look up what disagreeable means. So they’re not confused, they like being assholes. They just don’t like the consequences of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 07:47 PM
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Its not about being likable, its about being accountable. You: The super majority of women in my area and cohort were hedonic utilitarians and have no principle-based morality system. Me: You have the internet, expand your area. You: Chronically online social media women are objectively worse. So your myopic "internet" suggestion is objectively worthless. Where’s the strawman.? You hate the women you’re around and you think the women not around you are worse. Where is the accountability of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 07:34 PM
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They arent, but for the average person in a social setting they might as well be one and the same. Introverted women still largely date and prefer to date extroverted men For this to even make sense, you would have to be defining being an introvert as someone who doesn’t go outside. Someone who is a type of person who is told to touch grass because they spent that little time interacting with other people. A responsible stable guy might plan less vacations That’s not being responsible, he delibe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 07:09 PM
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It really comes down to an epistemic blindspot The blindspot of you complaining about an area of women that you refuse to disassociate with because you complain about every other group of woman too, claiming theyre worst than the women you choose to keep associating with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:57 PM
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And yes this is the message we were getting from media and parents while growing up It was implied to be romantically attractive and sex was implied to be for a relationship No one is thinking like that before puberty except for abused children. those men were exceptional men The point of the Bible was to teach the followers how to live. Their downfalls was supposed to be a cautionary tale for others to learn from. You misunderstanding the point of people hearing their stories makes me more relu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:54 PM
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It was implied to be romantically attractive and sex was implied to be for a relationship No one is speaking this before puberty, do you even remember what your claim was? thinking about their penises is not very stupid for men The Bible has famous stories about why they shouldn’t think with their penis. Samson, David, and Solomon comes to mind,
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:46 PM
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“ Wow, I keep getting beaten up in Philidelphia for supporting out-of-town sport teams, I must be the asshole!" “I dont want to leave either because I think other places suck too! I will have options available to me and bitch about them. I CANT BE THE PROBLEM. EVER.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:41 PM
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I had to go check if that guy even puts out content anymore because he’s too busy running away from sex abuse charges. What the fuck is your argument? That he’s no longer popular because the guy being a misogynist turned out to be doing illegal misogynistic shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:27 PM
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The redpill had always has a bitter misogyny problem. They just brushed it off as “a rage phase”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:03 PM
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They’re simply not wanting to be around him because he sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:01 PM
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You've stepped on this landmine before Better than stepping on “the CSA is a mild suggestion” land mine. Better than sounding like a fan of Epstein just because a woman suggested incels dont lower their standards enough. Appeals to Dictionary Definition Imagine calling it a fallacy to use objective facts, not “my feelings dictate everything!”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:59 PM
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Dictionaries don't matter. There’s nothing else to talk about when admitting that facts don’t matter to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:54 PM
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I am not talking about me It’s still not other people‘s fault those men are very stupid and only think with their penises. People are not going to accommodate their illiteracy just because they’re too horny to think properly. It’s not society‘s fault that a lot of men are mentally 12 years old, if men have always been taught personal accountability, they should act like they’ve been taught it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:53 PM
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what you call "disagreeable" What the DICTIONARY calls disagreeable. l I call honest and predictable Of course assholes always like to think they’re honest. People can be honest without being assholes, but assholes don’t want to do that. There are multiple dimensions to all of that though Assholes constantly love to claim that theyre complex and misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:48 PM
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No, I did not. I just showed that your reasoning is wrong It’s not other people‘s fault if you only think about sex when it comes to relationships. That’s you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:46 PM
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You can go fight the dictionary and the definition of agreeableness, you’re going to lose, but you can try. It will make me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:00 PM
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Chronically online social media women are objectively worse. So youre not gonna change the women youre around anyways. No use in complaining about the women in your area at that point. You’re fine being around them. You guys really like to talk shit about women, but in the end, it says a lot about you that you seem to never find women that are likable. As the saying goes, if you’re seeing an asshole everywhere, you’re the asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:55 PM
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Others have seen my logic and they do not dispute it; just you You said JUST when I saw you being disputed by another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:53 PM
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I acknowledge that you lie, so it’s very clear that you’re very willing to make shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:50 PM
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A whole lot of words with nothing to explain them. I too remember being 12 years old in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:49 PM
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The other person was also correcting you because you were making shit up. At this point, the conversation is over because you’ve already shown that you will just make shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:47 PM
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Others have seen my logic and they do not dispute it The fact you’re lying after I caught you being corrected by another person shows you like to lie. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:47 PM
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Inference is the basis of communication You still have to be able to explain how you got that inference. You have not done so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:42 PM
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Great, so you have absolutely no proof I said for “ the reason he isnt getting laid”. You just came up with that, which makes it motivated reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:39 PM
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Imagine thinking being pleasant and friendly doesn’t make someone likable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:36 PM
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This is the same as saying, if they didn't have an ulterior motive and were a real good person, then they would have gotten laid. Walk me through how you came to that conclusion from “ The man is saying that they tried being a good person, but it didn't work. You then reply by saying they weren't a real good person because they have ulterior motive.” You’re not explaining how the fact that’s the same thing. Because you're saying the reason that they didn't get laid is because they have an ulteri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:33 PM
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Placating men who 'have their shit together' with the promise that women will wisen up in their mid-30s is also not comforting either because it just reinforces the idea that men who do make the safe and responsible choices in life So its NOT that theyre undateable. They just want a hot stupid young extravert.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:24 PM
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But yeah, if someone's just by nature introverted they should either like you said, get rich, get hot, iron out their introversion, or accept that they are undateable What? When did being an asshole and being an introvert be the same thing? Do you think introverted women dont exist? Gen Z is more accepting of introverts since being a dork with hobbies became cool. Its just like guys claiming theyre hated for being anime nerds, when its really because they watch weird shit like Jobless Reincarnat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:20 PM
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I have pointed out that this frustration is unreasonable because you tell men that being a good person will get them laid. With no evidence that I did. he was still being an asshole because he was trying to use doing charity as a way to get laid. Right. He wasnt being a good guy that failed to impress women. He was just an asshole upset gloating about charity work wasnt getting him laid, Where did you see me say “being a good person gets la men laid”? I’m still waiting for you to show me where I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:15 PM
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Im still waiting for you to explain how you got “ the beleif that being an asshole is not associated with getting laid”. From the paragraph I wrote. I’m still trying to see where your brain made those translations. For example, a guy was telling me that telling women he worked for a charity didn’t work, so it showed that women don’t care about men being good. He didn’t seem to comprehend when I explained to him that he was still being an asshole because he was trying to use doing charity as a wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:57 PM
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I’ll just copy and paste from my post: Motivated reasoning is when someone’s desires, emotions, identity, or preexisting beliefs influence how they interpret evidence and reach conclusions. Instead of asking, “What was actually said?” , they ask, often unconsciously, “What interpretation protects what I already believe?” Their feelings about the situation become more important than the actual content of it. I want to keep the context You haven’t kept the context at all, you are arguing against s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:53 PM
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If you ask them what they want... they say "kind" or other vague terms. Their answers are really self reflections, in that they're giving an answer which they feel makes them look better. And they do want someone kind, but in the end, they're just like the age old stereotype of wanting someone "tall, dark, handsome, masculine, edgy". Or you hang around women with low conviction. You guys spend so much time making assumptions about women that you guys never think that maybe you hang around low qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:50 PM
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I made a post about this. Reply there. Np .reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vlrp61/guys_who_struggle_with_dating_show_a_common/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:47 PM
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For example, a guy was telling me that telling women he worked for a charity didn’t work, so it showed that women don’t care about men being good. He didn’t seem to comprehend when I explained to him that he was still being an asshole because he was trying to use doing charity as a way to get laid. Summarize what you have read here, because I really don’t think you’re really reading what I am writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:43 PM
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Theres no point of it being fair or unfair No, there is a point, which is why we end up in these types of discussions all the time. It’s because a bunch of unlikable guys talk about how life is not fair to them, and I think we should explain that it is fair, because why would someone want to be around an abhorrent person that brings no value to the table? Hot assholes? They’re hot. You hot? Rich assholes? Theyre rich. YOU giving people money? Extraverts? They do fun shit. YOU do fun shit? And si…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:38 PM
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What makes goodness valuable? Because most people dont want to be around a guy who gets so offended by hearing “incels should lower their standard” that they immediately suggests CSA as a “mild hypothetical”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:32 PM
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Let’s reread what I wrote: For example, a guy was telling me that telling women he worked for a charity didn’t work, so it showed that women don’t care about men being good. He didn’t seem to comprehend when I explained to him that he was still being an asshole because he was trying to use doing charity as a way to get laid. The guy claimed: that telling women he worked for a charity didn’t work, so it showed that women don’t care about men being good. My response: he was still being an asshole …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:28 PM
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What do you mean "desperate for validation" Like with your link, getting upset because some people don’t like some people. A 12 year-old gets upset about that, an ADULT understands that not everyone’s going to like them and move on. you'd remember that feminists fought hard for 150 years Its 2026. What do people long dead have to do with now? A man choosing to act like a 12 year-old girl is a personal choice of his. You can do everything you described and still be considered feminine BECAUSE I D…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:22 PM
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So you like being around those women. Carry on then,
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:16 PM
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If you beleived you can be an asshole and get laid, why would you tell him that being an asshole is stopping him from getting laid? Okay, once again, Describe your thought process of how you thought all of that from me simply saying: For example, a guy was telling me that telling women he worked for a charity didn’t work, so it showed that women don’t care about men being good. He didn’t seem to comprehend when I explained to him that he was still being an asshole because he was trying to use do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:14 PM
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The implication being: If he did charity work because he was a good person, and not to get laid, then he would be a good person, Describe your thought process of how you bought all of that from me simply saying: For example, a guy was telling me that telling women he worked for a charity didn’t work, so it showed that women don’t care about men being good. He didn’t seem to comprehend when I explained to him that he was still being an asshole because he was trying to use doing charity as a way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:08 PM
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Take a picture of when I said that and post it in your reply to me. Otherwise, it’s motivated reasoning. You guys want to believe women told you that so you can have something to argue against.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:01 PM
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The super majority of women in my area You have the internet, expand your area:
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:01 PM
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Sure. Doesn't mean you need to be a good person to get laid tho Women have never told men that. Men told themselves that because a lot of men are assholes who can’t comprehend being good people., You don't even need to be a good person to have friends. Assholes are typically friends with each other as long as they are useful to each other. Incels are useless and assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:54 PM
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Yes. Lol, fucking women is how I made most of my friends All I'm gonna say is problems with relationships typically correlation with problems in one's social life in general. I don't really understand what you're trying to say tbh. Yeah, I know. Because you're not operating in a way most people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:13 PM
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You're moralising sex again. You fuck your friends?! That's a whole different problem, but that's getting off topic. All I'm gonna say is problems with relationships typically correlation with problems in one's social life in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:09 PM
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Lack of third spaces and destruction of zoomer social skills via smart devices is to blame. Also, Zoomers care the most about stability because they're the most aware of mental illnesses. Have you actually asked the Zoomers who stay inside? They dont find drinking and fucking appealing less than previous generations, because just having a group chat on discord is more rewarding with less drawbacks from fucking and drinking. The assertion that theyre some kind of born-again puritans is laughable.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:09 PM
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It's because a lot of them have been traumatized by dominant and disagreeable people, so they see this as the only way to lead, get what you want, be respected, and be safe. Which makes no sense because in the age of the internet, zoomers constantly talk about mental health, healing from trauma, etc etc. The internet is great for introverts, but they still have to put in SOME effort into socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:58 PM
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Yes when agreeable is LITERALLY agreeable, but that's shit women do too. As for actually being pleasant and cooperative, women are more likely to be that while men are more likely to be disagreeable. Women lean more towards doing things to benefit society, men lean more towards doing things to benefit themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:56 PM
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My favorite is complaining about feminists hating masculinity and then proceed to be upset when toxic traits aren't considered masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:54 PM
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Humans do not naturally gravitates towards 'genuine moral virtues wholly independent of worldly results', The biggest religion is literally based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:53 PM
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But being good doesn't get you what you want RIGHT. That's how an asshole thinks. So you DO think that being a good person gets you laid? As oppose to being an incel? Where you also have less friends too?!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:51 PM
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for some people on this planet maybe This is an English speaking sub. The USA has 300 million English speakers and is one of the largest countries. Trying to downplay Trump's and Tate's popularity will not work. as im apparently part of the manosphere i can tell you trump and tate can **** off Clearly you're in the minority, because Tate wouldn't be popular otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:48 PM
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Emotional and lifestyle stability are generally perceived as boring by most of the younger dating marke Zoomer are doing less drinking and fucking than previous generations. What are you talking about? such as people's willingness to rack up credit card debt Thats not a normal thing. Those people have problems. Children who have to handle adult responsibilities at an early age Incels and redpill arent known for their maturity. They are known for their immaturity and behaving more like little kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:38 PM
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disagree... redpillers and some conservatives maybe but you made it so broad Dude, Trump and Tate are their poster boys. No true Scottsman fallacy doesn’t work here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:32 PM
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“ telling people not to make dating a goal assumes human connection happens by accident” That is conflating dating with human connection. That is implying that’s the only human connection being sought out. That’s extremely sad. And it’s no wonder so many guys are extremely lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:36 AM
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even mentioning that women do infact play a part in this is already taboo as i Because it's just a ploy to talk shit about women instead of actually looking at the problems . See how you’re not even addressing when men contribute to the problems men have? That’s why it’s taboo. Because you’re not actually serious about the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:34 AM
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LBGTQ people are still influenced by gender norms . Societal norms and standards influence how we act, often at an unconcious level And what if they don’t adhere to it, what happens to them? Does the group of guys come out and beat the shit out of them? What happens? A person being so desperate for validation is not a victim of norms. They are a victim of their own desperation for validation. I don’t give a fuck to shave my armpits. I don’t give a fuck about wearing makeup. I don’t give a fuck a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:19 AM

Then why care enough to whine about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:11 AM
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Because being single has infinitely more to do with being attractive So why are there guys connecting it to being good? still insist that men's beliefs are the reason they're single. Here's another uncomfortable since you've shocked me and actually tried answering: What do these men have to offer? Why should people put up with their abhorrent behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:56 PM
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Then why do we so often treat a man who is barely surviving as if he has no dignity, respect, or place in romantic life? If you're barely surviving, you should focus on surviving. Not potentially placing yourself in a situation where a dependent could be born or you have to spend hundreds of dollars on a termination. it’s not surprising that some men eventually internalize that as “I’m not worthy of love until I have something to offer.” They're not gonna get love because they're annoying and wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:51 PM
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It also needs to stop being used as a term to shut down men when they rightfully point out discrepancies and problems in social scenarios today. Are we going to acknowledge when men are the ones harming men? If not, that's why it gets shut down. Because it's just a ploy to talk shit about women instead of actually looking at the problems. Men being lonely is treated as a moral failure Let's see how you answer my question before I address this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:47 PM
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Men, especially in this subreddit, need to stop blaming women and demanding women solve loneliness for me. No. The Male Loneliness Epidemic is simply a euphemism for inceldom. Most people who care about the topic of loneliness know it's not gender specific. It's just incels have a harder time with any sort of companionship.....because they suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:46 PM
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telling people not to make dating a goal assumes human connection happens by accident. Why is that the only connection you care about? That's the problem people are addressing. yet women often believe that relationships and sex will happen as side quests when one is 'focusing on other things'. Holy shit, imagine having no goals in life outside of being laid. Holy shit, no wonder guys think their life is depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:44 PM
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There doesn’t need to be any context So it is Nice Guys victim blaming abuse victims. You just dont want to admit it. Victim blaming people who suffered from abuse is NOT the same thing as telling guys to accept the consequences of their actions in terms of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:39 PM
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It seems like you're saying that gay people existing in large numbers means gender norms don't matter That's a fact because gender roles are cis het normative. If a massive portion of the population is blatantly going against it, why are we pretending it's a big deal? You just utterly refuse to clearly state what you actually believe. You simply dont like that you can't counter the fact Zoomers in the West dont really give a fuck about adhering to gender norms. That's a choice. You're not oppres…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:38 PM
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20% of Zoomers being LGBT shows guys dont have to abide by gender roles/norms, but they can choose to. Good luck denying FACTS about Zoomers. Because guess what? Western Gender Norms/Roles are CIS HETEREONORMATIVE. So 20% of Zoomers REJECT CIS HETEREONORMATIVE and some motherfuck cis gender straight male cant?! Explain how that makes sense to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:27 PM
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The anecdote is just to go into detail of what I'm talking about. I've seen multiple guys with this problem with fathers in their lives. I'm just using my ex as an example because I knew most about his problems in detail. My point is gender and sterotypical gender behavior doesn't cause/stop it. Being a competent parent does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:45 PM
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No, they decide to become emotionless because no one wants to put up with their emotional toddler behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:43 PM
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You seem to have totally abandoned that in favor of "I don't give a fuck if they are". <image> Where does that say "I don't give a fuck if they are"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:42 PM
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You started by denying that people try to use gender roles to pressure men into being emotionless. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:39 PM
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That’s never seen as valid when said to women, Well, what's the context? Victim blaming abuse survivors for not "going for the nice guy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:06 PM
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Let me explain why the stereotypical father still wouldn't work. My ex didn't see himself as "soft", he felt like a Sigma with the world on his shoulders but must bravely endure it. His father taught him to be more emotionally constipated, which made his journey for love much much harder because he kept trying to withhold affection while expecting it back. "Maximum value for minimum effort" is the holy grail of validation. And going back to that, when my ex felt the consequences for his actions,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:05 PM
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Mothers can also exacerbate this of course with coddling. I know you're going to push back on me about this but also lack of integrated fathers in the household is a huge issue with this as well. Fathers can prevent a man from letting his mother puff him up too much or making him too soft. The reason why I disagree because I've seen guys from two parent households narcissists too. I have an ex who has a father he loves. My ex was still a stunted 32 year old with the mindset of a 12 year old begg…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:53 PM
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1 in 5 zoomers are publiclly LGBTQ That's the biggest representation of LGBT in a generation. Not giving a fuck is now a popular option. It's not that zoomers don't give a fuck, it's that zoomers don't have to worry about being socially ostracized I rest my case. These guys could just not give a fuck, but they choose to for male validation. Now that I got my main point out the way. It seems like you dislike toxic masculinity until a man says it's bad. Claims I'm dodging and then proceed to dodge…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:47 PM
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In this case you just misread it, but that’s understandable. Imagine fighting a DEFINITION because you dont like it. You’re saying that anger is an emotion, but people don’t mean that when they talk about being emotional, Yes they do. Misogynists who pretend they're better than women dont think so, but normal people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:42 PM
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You fully forgot the three comments directly above mine, Then go get them, explain how they somehow make your "mild suggestion" look better. which really do serve to illustrate how patient I was in refusing to bring up the worst possible extreme. So you actually were upset I said "incels dont lower their standards enough". I had a feeling I struck a nerve, but it's nice that you admitted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:39 PM
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Difference is that men who say “misunderstood good men” are very rare Already proved that's not true. women who say “If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.” are the mainstream While no proof of that. Personal accountability is installed into men from very early age You still didn't address the whole complaining about DEI, which is not a "very rare complaint". You have no idea what red-pill means, but you still throw it around like it makes sense in your context. I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:37 PM
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are only considered by women who they are attracted to How about lowering those looks standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:31 PM
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<image> With the added bonus of saying "Telling men to lower their standards with no clear endpoint in sight, or to lower their standards until they'll take anyone, do anything, is only one moral barrier away from actual criminality.". Being with consenting adults just IMMEDIATELY stopped being an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:28 PM
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<image> Claiming men and women have "completely different emotions" shows you dont understand women. Hence, no empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:26 PM
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Those who are blind cannot see; Like demanding empathy towards guys who relate to The Joker and American Psycho. And it's funny that you compare male and female emotions, they are completely different To a sexist they are because they cant relate to others outside of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:56 PM
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None of that attitude was present in the first place. Then why do you guys keeping connecting being single and you being good little boys? I’m gonna wait for you guys to never answer this because you know the answer is uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:55 PM
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They are told they aren't men if they aren't emotionless 1 in 5 Zoomers are LGBT. Not giving a fuck has been a popular option. I laid out a feminist argument for how patriarchal gender norms dictate what emotions are acceptable And the manosphere is absolutely fine with pushing toxic ideas onto men. and you think it's the same thing as a right winger ranting about how feminists hate masculinity Explain the difference. The men who rant about how feminists hate true manhood are not the same as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:48 PM
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If you're satisfied with that Seeing my post be proven right is satisfying, yes. To me, you're simply biased toward your own interests You could always make an actual counter argument instead of throwing insults at me, but proving my point is satisfying enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:36 PM
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Sidenote: You remind me of that lady who explains its misogyny to call her preferences bigoted, but when I asked her why she doesn't like bi men, she refuses to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:32 PM
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Do you see many "I'm a nice guy but" in this particular space? I notice you keep avoiding the question. Let me make it bigger: So if the good man identity doesn’t appeal to anyone, why are men the ones who bring it up? people explaining why insensitive "bad men" have an advantage. By people, you mean men. So if the good man identity doesn’t appeal to anyone, why are men the ones who bring it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:30 PM
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I think you overestimate what you think your empathy is; you don't have empathy, You know, not only did you not come up with a counter, you proved my post. Often, the problem isn't the internal narrator; it's simply external success: Really proving my post. if you're good-looking and shy, you're cute; if you're ugly and shy, you're the weirdo. Thank you for proving my point instead of coming up with a counter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:28 PM
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Like I said before, I think this is the result of these mothers coddling these boys and rarely calling them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:24 PM
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A man without money can feel like he has no respect, no voice, and no right to ask for love. If he's barely surviving, he should be focusing on doing better in life, not pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:23 PM
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Do you have more context? Any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:21 PM
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I pretty explicitly said that not showing emotion is seen as masculine, So these men aren't told to be emotionless. They just want male validation. You won't find a single big name influencer talking about You mean them bitching about feminists "hating masculinity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:20 PM
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If your argument is "incels don't lower their standards enough to be incels," then the logical question to that premise is "how low do one's standards have to be?" Shame the guy who immediately thought up CSA as a solution didn't say that first! It's like.....thinking before speaking is important!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:17 PM
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Do you have an actual argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:16 PM
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I said dudes were being A-holes, Diddy's also an asshole. Asshole is a sliding scale, but most people still dont want to be around assholes. This is just like anybody says something Red Pilled and I have to hear about Andrew Tate. Well, he's a popular redpiller. Maybe if the redpill heeded the warnings of women, you wouldn't have a sex trafficker as your poster boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:15 PM
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Andrew Tate has a misogyny problem and women and blue pillers used that to convict the whole red pill. AWALT was a thing before Tate and it's literally All Women Are Like That. The redpill always had this problem. They just called it "red pill rage" and shrugged it off. Now with Tate, that argument can't work anymore, even though it barely did beforehand. My social circles were awesome. To you, as you admitted. Loyal dudes to a fault. To you. If it weren't for those A-holes, I may have never fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:13 PM
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I'm too employed to waste that much time. Well, I dont take people who bring up CSA to solve inceldom as a “mild suggestion” to counter “Incels dont lower their standards enough to be incels” seriously. Telling men to lower their standards with no clear endpoint in sight So back to the victim complex and the entitlement, as if lowering one’s standards is an act injustice is only one moral barrier away from actual criminality Thanks for confirming that you did think its just like CSA, which is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 03:47 PM
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Anger is one of the few emotions men can have without risking people seeing them as less masculine See. It’s not that young people want men to be emotionless, it’s just a lot of guys don’t think behaving like an adult is masculine. Funny enough, this is the type of toxic masculinity feminist keep addressing. This isn't a manosphere talking point Then why is it mainly brought up in manosphere spaces? They certainly would agree with you more on this subject No they dont. I talk to the manosphere, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 03:35 PM
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As for the other question. Everyone has thoughts and questions about who they are, what they want to be, and what they stand for. And? But why should we men let women and public discussion in on our thoughts about that? See, there’s a solution to that problem. It’s called shutting the fuck up. Like I told that women complaining that people thought her preferences were bigoted, people get criticized a lot less when they shut the fuck up. It only invites headache and nothing more So then why are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 03:32 PM
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For the last time, they bring it up strategically to win discussions “Nice guys finish last” was a male invention. So they’re the ones bringing up the conversation, not women. So if the good man identity, doesn’t appeal to anyone, why are men the one who bring it up? Because it sounds like it appeals to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 03:23 PM
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Notice how you couldnt counter my conclusions. It is morally reprehensible, that's kinda the endpoint of the "lower your standards," conversation. So you think it’s reprehensible to tell men to lower their standards or theyre voluntarily celibate and you think it’s just like CSA.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:52 PM
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I did not decide about if CNN is mainstream or not. I told you it's irrelevant and does not show that such epidemic exists Then why are men talking about it existing too? why are you blaming women for bringing it up, when it’s a response to me bring it up? And even if it did, it's still won't support your original point. I highly doubt you even know what original point you’re talking about, because I have dismantled every topic you have talked about. Let me go back to your original comment so I …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:49 PM
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They do not seriously engage with the concept of what makes a good man. Then why are they bringing it up? Though I do expect there's a few vulnerable ones who're hoping (in vain) that someone would validate their personhood in a way they can believe. I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:42 PM
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It is morally reprehensible, that's kinda the endpoint of the "lower your standards," conversation. So victim complex and sense of entitlement as a response to “You're not an incel because you’re not willing to lower your standards” and then feeling like it’s just like CSA. But again, there's a baseline level of rhetorical competence There’s nothing competent in believing suggesting CSA is mild.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:38 PM
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And that's another delightful assumption about what someone does and doesn't realize. A person admitting that they’re fucked up isn’t any better. It would be like if someone assumed "a possible solution" to a problem is "the best solution to a problem." Most people are not interested in being with a person who even suggests CSA as any solution. Most people still find that to be morally reprehensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:26 PM
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See, changing the subject because you can’t counter the evidence I give you. You first insisted that the man I’m talking about is very rare and its mainstream, and then I showed you that they’re not rare and that there is discussion about them in mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:24 PM
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You have never given any evidence I posted two men on CNN talking about the Male Loneliness Epidemic and I showed you a stat where 1 in 4 middle school boys think positively on Tate. Im actually quite impressed that you opened source I linked to you that proved your claim wrong 1 in 8 men is not very rare. Thats like sayong the LGBT community is “very rare”. I have linked you hundreds of sources Congratulation on just outright lying. You gave one and it showed men liking Tate is not very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:21 PM
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Sure. But fucked up people with intrusive thoughts are still capable of existing as different people in different social contexts If they don’t notice how fucked up their thoughts are online where people can read it, they’re not gonna notice when they say something fucked up around other people offline. Most people aren’t going to call someone out when they’re being awful, they’re just gonna simply not be around that person. Especially when such a child seems incapable of interacting honestly wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:15 PM
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So did you suddenly decide CNN is not mainstream because it hurts your narrative? And last time I checked, Anderson Cooper is a cis man. Maybe the other person he’s talking to identifies differently. But that seems to also be a cis male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:08 PM
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And I already countered your claims with evidence. And now you’re just calling me a sexist because you have no further counter to the evidence I provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:06 PM
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What I said was that even if it would be 50% (it's not) it would still be irrelevant to your original premise Can you even remember what my original premise? Because you thinking one in eight is very rare is making me suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:02 PM
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For example, it doesn’t matter what excuse a man gives, if he suggests CSA as a solution to inceldom just because a woman said incels dont lower their standards enough, that man is a fuck up person with fucked up intrusive thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:01 PM
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There is no point to argue about definition of rare Then why would you make that your argument? Even if it was 50% Thats definitely not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:59 PM
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Where are the women? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTDe3xG4N/ it may have grown lately So its not very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:58 PM
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1 in 8 is less than amount of morons in any random sample of population That still means theyre not very rare. Most people aren’t violent felons, so do you believe violent felons aren’t a problem? Also, most people know more than 8 people and we usually are around more than 8 in our day to day. Tate is widely disliked by young men, with 71% saying they have a negative view of him, 30% of the young male population being OK with Tate is not very rare. And most people interact with more than three …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:52 PM
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Can you show me the stats that say most men are narcissists? Copy and paste where I said that, I dont call people misogynists when they insult Karens. Why are you so upset when some men are called out? It comes off that you actually believe most men are narcissists, but dont like the label.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:46 PM
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CNN isnt mainstream? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTDe3xG4N/ https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/47419-one-in-six-boys-aged-6-15-have-a-positive-view-of-andrew-tate One in eight Gen Z men say they like Andrew Tate 1 in 8 is not “Very rare”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:43 PM
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And neither is claiming the "Good man" identity appealing to anyone Because when men say things like "women overlook good men" If men know, the good man identity isn’t appealing to anyone, how about shutting the fuck up about it? Because if the good man identity isn’t appealing to anyone, why they bringing it up still? they're not speaking about themselves necessarily Then why are they bringing it up? If they know it’s not appealing to anybody, why are we still having this conversation? If you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:39 PM
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Buddy the person that persons whole schtick is taking a minor subset of men and projecting it to the whole gender I'm still waiting for you guys to prove this. If this is just a small subset of men, why are you guys getting offended when they're called out? I dont call people misogynists when they insult Karens. Why are you so upset when some men are called out? It comes off that you actually believe most men are narcissists, but dont like the label.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:16 PM
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And neither is claiming the "Good man" identity appealing to anyon Then why is this still a common talking point, even outside of this sub? Make one positivistic claim about yourself and there's 1000s of ready-packed narratives to tear you down and label you a failure anyway. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:14 PM
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Difference is that men who say “misunderstood good men” are very rare If they're rare, why is The Male Loneliness Epidemic making it into mainstream? Why is "Nice Guys Finish Last" such a popular sentiment that we see it in media across generations and a common sentiment amongst men? and they are shunned by mainstream in general, So was Andrew Tate and it was found 1 in 4 middle school boys in the UK had a positive opinion of him. That's just of the ones admitting it. Also, Trump was constantly …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:12 PM
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Narcs make up less than like 5% of thd population. In a world of 8 billion, that's still alot of people. I mean, stupid man children is also a problem, but I guess it can look alot like narcissism since children are less likely to think about others. Its nor surprising you dont understand the importance if role models. I notice none of you are explaining their importance. Women want to impress other women Being obsessed with impressing others is a common human flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:06 PM
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A lot of men don’t think about women Because a lot of men are narcissists. It’s honestly that simple. I try to research more and more about men I don’t see why. Most people of both genders aren’t that different from each other. The differences are more seen in the extreme behaviors being display disproportionately, like violence and sexual behavior. You are taught to succeed, usually through career. Not impress women, not wear clothes that they like, or even really think about what they like. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 12:42 PM
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Hahaha oh so when men point out women's bad choices I rest my case. Its not a strawman just because people call you out and you dont like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 12:36 PM
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So you’re mad that people who are wrong get called out for being wrong? Because you still haven’t shown where I made that claim about all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 12:26 PM
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What bad behavior are they justifying due to their self image? Being entitled to women just because they were nice, but claiming its not entitlement its about “fairness” and “being lied to” despite no one lying to them. How theyre not victim blaming, theyre just “confused why women stay with assholes” despite the fact, they could easily research on abuse if they actually cared about the answer. How they “just want women to give them what Chad got” because women vet more to stop constantly gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 12:22 PM
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Then explain how being whiny is equal to justifying bad behavior due to a "good guy" self image. Because they whine about how misunderstood they are, how society hates men for no reason, and the consequences of their own actions being unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 12:14 PM
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All men are trash Where have I ever said that? Have you ever considered how few people get called stupid and wrong by not being stupid and wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 12:13 PM
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Who is denying men can be whiny this seems like some woman stuff It’s not a strawman just because you dont see how bad your arguments are, as I keep telling you. In your attempt to throw shade at women, you proved why I’m more focused on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 12:08 PM
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They don't generally do the same shit though Women dont also generally do this either. Also, Western men generally dont do this misogynistic gender war bullshit either, because they understand men can be whiny and wallow in self pity too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 12:01 PM
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You JUST proved my point: this seems like some woman stuff. You are pretending men are any better than women while doing the same shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:55 AM
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Forgot to mention: really don't see many men excusing men's behavior due to their thoughts Those men also dont go around complaining about “women give their best to Chad, but not me” because they know how stupid and entitled that sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:54 AM
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I really don't see many men excusing men's behavior due to their thoughts So men who also think the manosphere is dumb, that this Male Loneliness Epidemic is a self-inflicted problem by mosogynistic weirdos, and that the world doesnt revolve around them. Also straight up calling bull on you deciding to choose to focus on men due to seeing themselves as more logica You JUST proved my point: this seems like some woman stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:50 AM
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MGTOW are just incels with slightly better luck with women but not enough to makeit worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:47 AM
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There might be a logical reason that I haven't considered. I’m still waiting for the explanation. Because it’s usually based on negative stereotypes of gay men and conflating being bisexual with being sexually impulsive. Hence, bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:30 AM
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Then have other qualities for people to life about you. That’s why both men and women try to tell men to work on their personality, because that’s usually the reason why people wouldn’t want them outside of the money they provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:26 AM
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And women could stop going for it Many do. You guys just don’t want those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:25 AM
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Why do you have to have to go to insane comparisons like P-Diddy? There were people that he was chill with, even if they didn’t know what he was doing up to people. There were people in 50 Cent’s documentary that admitted they were all right with P. Diddy‘s actions until they became victims themselves. Exactly, demonstrating I'm a nice person not only did not help me in dating Because you weren’t good for the sake of being good, you just wanted pussy. To be blunt, this is why I don’t trust your …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:20 AM
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didn't say I exclusively hung around A-holes. But the fact that you’re willing to entertain them as long as they’re nice to, you still says a lot about you and how nonchalant you are about the moral characters of your social circle. EDIT: And the fact you don’t realize bragging about being nice, hoping to get laid is also a asshole thing to do speak volumes. Why is it always these extreme example No, it’s a famous example. Otherwise, you guys will stay in denial. Just like the red pill denied th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:18 AM
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Congratulations, you just explained your motivated reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:13 AM
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There were more than that, and incels forums promote violence. Even Reddit had to remove the link I provided to a particular incel forum because promoting violence and making fun of murder victims was so common.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:13 AM
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I have absolutely no idea what you’re quoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:09 AM
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Because he's a feminist who happens to be unsatisfied with his dating life Dont connect the two as in being a feminist makes you entilted to a woman. If you guys feel like you’re constantly misunderstood, perhaps be more mindful about how you communicate to others? Perhaps stop constantly having a “Im a little boy! Where’s my pussy?!” attitude? If guys aren’t noticing how they sound to people online, I highly doubt they’re careful about their words off-line, would greatly contribute to why most …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:08 AM
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Trump get supermodel and porn star pussy. He's doing alot better men whining about spending cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:05 PM
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Then dont spend money women you just met.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:05 PM
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Without us there’s no human race. There's 8 billion people. Immigration is the best solution at the moment. But that’s not what this post is about. I just don’t know why so many European/ western women wanna be all bold and superior to men. Equality feels like oppression to those with power.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:03 PM
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If money didn't work on women, you wouldn't have men trying to get women with it. They could do other things, they just don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:39 PM
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Remove that, and their interest in men lessens significantly. Most men have been conditioned to accept this and actually find meaning in it. Women exploit men endlessly Yeah, because those men act desperate. and society accepts and encourages this and teaches women that it is part of being feminine Yeah. Because men do stupid stuff for hot women. Any qualities women find useful in men, they call masculine Normal people: Could you not be an annoying piece of shit? Guys here: Arg! You just want me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:38 PM
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I need everything past the r/AskReddit portion of the URL.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:00 PM
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Better. Now, can you please copy and paste the last bit of that URL so I can look into the post myself? Sadly this sub doesnt like full links to other subreddits
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:54 PM
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Honestly, I think the reason is based on bigoted negative stereotypes about the LGBT community. However, they don’t want to admit it because they don’t want the label of bigot. But that’s also why I said don’t bring up the topic if you dont want judgement. Don’t engage with the topic, just walk away from the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:48 PM
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Again, women finding it icky that a guy is attracted to other guys does not make them bigoted Their past relations with men have nothing to do with women. So why does it matter? Why dont they get an icl when men sleep with other women? Finding gay sex to be disgusting is ok What does that have to do with women? Plenty of gay find straight sex to be disgusting Then those men dont have to have straight sex. Now if you mean those men not liking bi men, they are biphobic. Biphobic is an actual issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:47 PM
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the reason is women find gay sex to be an ick But that has nothing to do with them. So whats the issue? Sounds homophobic. People are allowed to have dating preferences. Who said bigots cant have preferences? There are plenty of things that I find icky but I dont hate the people doing it You also cant have awful stereotypes about them either, nor be a hypocrite about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:21 PM
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Because women keep saying nice guys aren't nice ENOUGH. This is what I am replying to. Are you saying very few women make that claim? If so, then fine. End of conversation. Must the guys I know who struggle with dating are nice But wetent you just explaining how youre fine being around assholes as long as theyre nice to you? short or bald or socially awkward or "defective" Elliot Rodgers was none of those things. He was average height and a massive piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:18 PM
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It’s not normal to try to dive into people’s personal relationships and preferences Then dont speak on your preferences. People get called bigots because they want to be loudmouths about their preferences in a very obnoxious way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:05 PM
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No it's more of they weren't A-holes to me Most people arent okay with that either. Saying “I knew what P Diddy was doing, but he was cool with me, so who cares?” is not a good defense. , just thought women wanted to be treated nice That asshole probably did treat those women nicely until they realize she wasnt special. I was so stupid/Blue pilled I used to tell women that I was a volunteer ski/snowboard instructor for handicapped kids Well yeah, you were trying to get pussy for playing the good…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:59 PM
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nope. It’s misogynistic to call a women bigoted for losing attraction Why did she lose attraction? If she’s not a bigot, the answer should be easy, People don’t owe you an explanation If they dont wanna be called a bigot, they should have a non-bigoted reason. A preference does not excuse bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:54 PM
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The other guy in the internet said those guys will typically go on the internet and be resentful incels. So even he’s talking about a specific group of guys that typically become resentful incels. Plenty of people know how resentful incels behave. Are you just bad that the poster is explaining that the incel problem is typically mental illness and hygiene? Arent there studies showing a correlation between incels and bad mental health? Do you want to ignore that even men complain how many male sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:54 PM
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I don’t have a non bigoted reason Then it’s not misogynistic to call out a bigot. People who arent bigots simply explain they arent bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:46 PM
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about how it’s homophobic if a woman doesn’t want to date a Bi man Okay, whats the reason? because why do people think they can control what a women’s preference That doesnt stop the preference from being bigoted. Now, tell us the non-bigoted reason. And it’s nobody right to shame her, calling her a homophobe Im noticing you NOT giving a non-bigoted reason. and makes me sad all the women hopping on this homophobic bandwagon You have yet to give a non-bigoted reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:42 PM
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and the second dude said the only way to achieve that would be to "increase the therapy and hygiene budget" Oh, you guys just dont like when people speak from experience about these guys. Also, great job mot looking at the other videos. No its not “you are alone therefore its your fault”, its “I have met guys like that, they are the problem”. the second dude said the only way to achieve that would be to "increase the therapy and hygiene budget" Because the men he knew were stinky and unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:34 PM
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I said: Then show me women actually telling men that being nice is sexually attractive. And in the post I said; “Girls want a nice guy” somehow becomes “be nice and women will reward you with sex because niceness makes you sexually desire”. Just a reminder, your initial claim was to find "women" (more than 1) that make this claim You didnt show me a woman who made that claim. Ladies and gents, that is motivated reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:22 PM
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Then your assumption is wrong because incels are so entitled, they became an international threat due to how their sense of entitlement have them behaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:16 PM
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Literally the first example you posted is a guy just assuming that the only reason some men fail to reproduce is because he's an incel who needs therapy Timestamp. Point the the exact minute and second he said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:14 PM
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No, you think that Did you just argue with yourself instead of actually addressing what I said? Did you not even remember what you wrote? I never paid attention to the Jobless Reincarnation discourse and i'm not telling your word on it How interesting I literally told you to look up jobless reincarnation, and you refuse to do it, most likely because you know it ruins your argument. Plenty of those guys do empathize with disgusting individuals because they see themselves in those disgusting indiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:57 PM
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You think men are like women who defend villains like Wanda Lookup Jobless Reincarnation. it’s kind of popular in the anime community and a lot of the fans excuse what the main character does around little girls because he was bullied. Despite the fact he came into a new world with the mind of a 40 year-old man who still wanna do creepy things and then continues to still do those creepy things. They actually want him to have a redemption arc. i've repeatedly stated they don't want therapy as hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:24 PM
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Found this immediately: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTD1VPy5e/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTD1qVH56/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTD1qVH56/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTD1bYsS3/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTD1qhS7u/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTD1qNL9f/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTD1qdCfd/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTD1VKM5x/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:17 PM
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Suggesting CSA just because a woman said incels dont lower their standards enough to be involuntarily celibate Is very much motivated reasoning and says alot about the guy who suggested it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:08 PM
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You didn't provide any examples to back up the claims your post either. r/NiceGuys have plenty of examples. Also, plenty of tiktok posts on the Male Lonliness Epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:05 PM
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You were quoting from the original text that stated She was speaking about herself. You know, women are allowed to be individuals. It’s not just something men can be. Since you are being stubborn Words don’t change their meaning just because you want them to. will you at least admit that women, at minimum, incorrectly suggest that being nice will get you into a relationship? Find what women actually said. Because I bet it’s along the lines of “You’re alone because you’re an asshole” after the gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:01 PM
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“ He's lonely, and struggle, i'm lonely an struggle." Empathetic to psychos. You: So you love evil psychos because you're an evil psycho. Im already gonna make a post about this. You guys seem to think a bitter violent psycho is excused when he’s “complex and has a reason to be like that”. Explaining why you have empathy for a psycho doesn’t change that you have empathy for a psycho. Why would i need that when i already told you the reason why? So you already know they don’t want help. Coming up…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:40 PM
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“ “The whining about their dating problems.” And “only men whine” are not the same sentence. You’re in this sub every single day And guys here immediately think of doormat when they see the word agreeable and then come up with ways to spin being disagreeable as a good thing to be. Agreeable, submissive, same difference to me Congratulations on improving my point. I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:35 PM
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But he thought he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:29 PM
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Incels don't feel more entitled then men who get laid There isnt a group being labelled as terrorists by multiple because they commit mass atrocities over getting laid. Is there a forum of guys whose whole identity is getting laid by consenting adult women that laugh at the victims of tragedies?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:26 PM
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what i am trying to say is that there’s a societal level goal / life plan that is imposed on people that the end game is starting a family and having kids But you have to actually show that’s why they’re being called terrible people. Just like multiple federal governments didn’t label incels a terrorist threat just because they arent married with kids. i don’t think that it’s a stretch to say that if an individual is not able to reach that imposed goal, both society and the individual will assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:24 PM
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Cool, so no proof of people just calling single guys assholes for being single, while there’s more proof of those guys being assholes and then being called out as assholes and that it’s probably the reason why they’re alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:21 PM
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You're second point is a complete goalpost shift Copy and paste what I originally said. The post specifically talks about traits that make men attractive to women I said sexual attraction. See. Motivated reasoning. Thats why reading what is being said is important, not what you want to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:33 PM
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and will look at a chronically single guy or girl and go “there must be something wrong with them” You guys wont even give context. People have proof of these so-called innocent nice guys sounding like weirdos, predators, mentally unhinged, etc. and then crying about being seen as the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:31 PM
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Do women not whine about their dating problems? Find me people treating women being single as an epidemic. I said this was changed to agreeable With no evidence whatsoever. However, there’s evidence you guys see the word agreeable and you would immediately think submission, because that’s how you actually see being pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:26 PM
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If that was the case, you would’ve actually had a decent counter argument to me. But I see you don’t have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:24 PM
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Would it be a good idea to show guys these Lilith posts and the women supporting them and saying shit in the comments, gassing this up? Do it, then we’ll see who’s the misogynist with motivated reasoning and who actually can read what’s being written to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:22 PM
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To a e Empathy lacking Misandrist it is These guys are empathetic to psychos. That’s like claiming people should be open minded to bigots. Source all men don't want help? I can get you studies on how men are more reluctant to get professional help. Absolutely. Would you like those links? You're confusing Black Pill with Redpill And the red pill didn’t give a fuck either. That’s why whenever someone brought it to their attention, they ignored it. Now they’re having an attitude because it can’t be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:21 PM
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The developers didn't acknowledge his grief, his depression, his purposelessness, his chafing under the commands of others when all he wants is a moment to sit down his own emotions. So there were reasons that all he was was anger. That didn’t change that all he was was anger for the longest They dismissed a very deep and complex character as "he angy" as a way to sell their New version of the character. So his anger finally simmered down, he adopted a boy, and you guys see that as a bad thing? …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:05 PM
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Because he was making the claim that "maybe stop being misogynistic" isn't good dating advice Thats good general advice. Why would you want to be around somebody who’s a bigot towards the group you are in? Also, that implies he’s only concerned about bigotry if it ruins his dating chances, which is a fucked up sense of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:00 PM
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What kind of attractive was she implying do you think? Women can also find other women attractive without having sexual feelings. And having a beautiful personality is also a thing, not merely a euphemism for ugly. Also, I noticed you ignored the second point I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:57 AM
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Guys here don’t complain about women owing the money. They’re mad that spending money on a date didn’t leave the sex, claiming they were being used for their resources because women didn’t show strong desires for them, a.k.a., she wasn’t willing to suck him off after the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:54 AM
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That has nothing to do with the conversation. However, look up Elliot Rogers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:52 AM
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Women always claim that acting entitled is what turned them off to a relationship OK? It’s not the 1960s anymore. and I know that's bullshit as well, because there has never been any correlation over how entitled a man feels and how many women he gets Incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:51 AM
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Do you not care about finding someone with common interests? Compatibility has never crossed your mind ever in your life? You have never thought seriously about any values you ever had?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:50 AM
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She didnt say it was sexually attractive. “Well that’s what matters TO ME”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:48 AM
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NP .reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vkvccv/comment/p2zvh1n/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:46 AM
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NP .reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vkvccv/comment/p2zvh1n/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:46 AM
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Are you acting like this isn't something that happens often? If it happens that often, you can give an example. It better not be because he was saying some Elliot Rodger shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:39 AM
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there’s an aspect of a patriarchal society that emphasizes heterosexual relationships as a symbol of status If that the guy’s mindset, he was definitely called out for being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:38 AM
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Relate to the feeling since they feel the same way? Yes. That's still a red flag. Therapy doesn't help Because they dont want it to help, they want to be like The Joker. Some Repill people were sexist, It was a noticeable problem before Tate, like saying AWALT and talking shit about the 19 Amendment, and claiming women like to monkey branch and will cuck men as soon as she finds someone better. You guys just ignored it until Tate made it impossible to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:35 PM
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Yes, it's a general gender statement. All women are a certain type of way just as men are. No. It literally means All Women Are Like That. That was a thing before Tate became popular. The redpill always appealed to sexists. You just cant hide behind "Oh it's a few bad apples" anymore. I still remember when guys like Turd Flinging Monkey talked shit about women voting and he was popular in Redpill spaces before Tate as well. It's like when someone says "No one is saying that" Well, dont make bold…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:23 PM
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I almost forgot, another part of growing up is personal responsibility. Yes, boys should be upset that their mother failed them and coddled them, but it's still their responsibility to break away from being a dumb mama's boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:08 PM
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Jeez, not sure why you have to yell, j I'm not playing this game. It's no one else's fault a guy (except his mom) is a dumbass mama's boy all because mama told him he's God's gift to Earth. EDIT: I know it was very hard for you to communicate on a level approaching an adult Because adults stop blaming everyone else for their problems, so I'm clearly not talking to any right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:05 PM
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And the problem isn't really looks. They just want pretty privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:01 PM
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But like, people absolutely do say that second thing though. Give an example, then. Did the guy just say "Im lonely" and then was blamed, or did he say "I'm lonely because women want assholes and not me, the good guy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:01 PM
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I don't know many mothers of teenage boys who would appeciate your suggestion that their sons should not trust them I don't care. Grow up and take responsibility for blindly believing everything mommy says. You're not 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:59 PM
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I said they are villains and are liked because they are villains They have a fanbase that claim they feel just like them. The whole thing with the Joker movie was that a bunch of guys felt they related to his character. You're basing your whole viewpoint of Repill and it's followers You can ignore Andrew Tate all you want, but the rest of society did not. Also, didn't you just say " No man with mental issues, depression or struggle with emotional regulation goes to therapy hoping it fails."? So …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:55 PM
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Some of the A-holes I've been around were a blast. Right. Most people dont have that type of tolerate. Hence, your social circle will be filled with people who has your above average tolerance for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:49 PM
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NP.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vlrp61/comment/p34q8mn/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:39 PM
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So that's the age boys should stop listening to and trusting women? A guy being dumber than a 14 year old is not women's fault. At best, it's his mother's fault because she should have known her son has a disability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:38 PM
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If a guy asks how he can get women Well, suggesting CSA to cure inceldom is certainly not a good answer and only psychos and sociopaths even entertain the thought. and a woman answers with "Just be a decent fuckin dude," Like NOT suggesting CSA just because a woman said incels dont lower their standards enough to be involuntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:33 PM
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Why are grown men still thinking niceness was the end be all for getting people to like them? Did they not think any other traits matter? Like compatibility? Common interests? Common values? None of that ever came into their head throughout their first 18 years of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:31 PM
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The most beloved male heroes are Luke Skywalker, Rocky, Indiana, Batman, Spider-man, Naruto and Goku. NORMAL MEN. Who aren't being told to go to therapy. The Media made the degenerate pretenders poster boys. Andrew Tate, Sneko, Fresh and Fit That was always the problem in redpill spaces. It's just the poster boys made it impossible for the redpill to deny it anymore. The Empathic gender strikes again. So you think The Joker, AMERICAN PSYCHO, and Guts are well adjusted normal men who resolved the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:31 PM
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First off, nobody with half a brain thinks "being nice" is an automatic trade-in for sex. Right, which is why I constantly theorize these guys are dumb and never mentally grew out of the 7th grade. That's the oldest mental age, mind you. It might be closer to 4th grade. The frustration most guys talk about isn't that being a good person didn't get them laid, Most guys dont think this nice guy bullshit either. it's watching women actively choose dudes who are provably toxic, manipulative, or abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:21 PM
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That means they have a basic vocabulary, I dont think these guys have basic vocabulary. Because they're misinterpreting basic words.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:05 PM
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What was said: This argument is illogical because people apply motivated reasoning to their lives to provide meaning and understanding to what they are experiencing. So add in the definition to what you said: people apply [desires, emotions, identity, or preexisting beliefs influence how they interpret evidence and reach conclusions. Instead of asking, “What was actually said?”, they ask, often unconsciously, “What interpretation protects what I already believe?”] to their lives to provide meani…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:02 PM
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And you said: This argument is illogical because people apply motivated reasoning to their lives to provide meaning and understanding to what they are experiencing. So add in the definition to what you said: people apply [desires, emotions, identity, or preexisting beliefs influence how they interpret evidence and reach conclusions. Instead of asking, “What was actually said?”, they ask, often unconsciously, “What interpretation protects what I already believe?”] to their lives to provide meanin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:02 PM
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Men who struggle with dating listen to what women say Let's go back to what these guys claim women say: Who told men that women find niceness to be sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:56 PM
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Why is this only limited to guys and dating? The whining about their dating problems. This was changed to agreeable for women See. You guys think being pleasant is weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:53 PM
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Redpill teaches Emotional disciple and control, Why are your poster boys constantly whiny misogynists, then? The most famous one just got in trouble for raping, enslaving, and beating women. Why are the most beloved male figures American Psychos, The Joker, Guts from Berserk? Why is it always unhinged angry men? Translation: Get therapy and talk about your feelings. No one tells that to men who are acting normal. Works for women but doesn't for men. Because they dont want it to work. They think …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:52 PM
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Men aren't claiming women said "being nice is sexy." They're claiming women told them being nice was part of being sexually attractive. I can link you to the conversations. They're claiming women told them to be nice guys. Do you want to be around assholes? Because that seems to be the real disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:45 PM
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Has nothing to do with what I'm saying. And 18 years was me being generous. They should hav e figured this out by ages 10 to 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:43 PM
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Well, elaborate. How am I doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:42 PM
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I'd imagine the vast majority of guys who struggle with dating simply do not engage with your posts at all Depends, are they bitching about a loneliness epidemic, and blame society for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:36 PM
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Imagine my shock, you don’t like the answers. I’m guessing you were hoping people said some unhinged radical feminist shit that you can argue against and youre now disappointed. Nice chat, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:34 PM
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Yes, being good is healthy. Why does that bother you? Most people aren’t bothered by being good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:33 PM
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DAMN THE WHOLE COMMENT GOT DELETED: Ah, the classic Reddit essay: high on rhetorical polish, remarkably low on cognitive rigor. You’ve constructed a pristine, textbook example of a strawman wrapped in an iron-clad confirmation bias, and then had the audacity to lecture others on motivated reasoning. Let’s dismantle this piece by piece, shall we? 1. The "Motivated Reasoning" Projection You define motivated reasoning as letting preexisting beliefs warp reality to protect the ego. Marvelous definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:32 PM
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So someone told you what healthy masculinity is, and you still didn’t like the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:31 PM
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Guys communicate directly Not these guys. that communicates the message "be the nice guy". But no one said being nice was about being sexually attractive, so why guys saying women told them that being nice was sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:30 PM
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Not doing any of that shit. Now, if you think not doing any of those things is being feminine, congratulations. You just proved toxic masculinity is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:29 PM
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There is no motivated reasoning its just men waking up to women and feminist dishonesty Then show me women actually telling men that being nice is sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:27 PM
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You mean people who struggle in dating When you show me a bunch of women complaining about the female loneliness epidemic, I’ll make it about both genders. people apply motivated reasoning to their lives to provide meaning and understanding to what they are experiencing. You think it’s normal for people to wildly misinterpret what another person is saying based on their emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:16 PM
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Tldr: Everything the redpill uniquely promotes is toxic but they keep claiming is manly. Emotional repression, Never wanted to get help, especially emotionally. Always seeing the world in dominance vs submission. Seeing being an asshole as proof of masculinity. Obsessively seeking sexual validation, even at the expense of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:13 PM
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The problem is the lack of social tact and the very high possibility they bring that attitude off-line, then wonder why they struggle with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:00 PM
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Ah. I wasn’t aware literacy expanded beyond reading. Thank you for the information.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:59 PM
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I didn’t even think functional illiteracy was a thing. It honestly just sounds like a disability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:57 PM
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I don’t think it’s literacy. I think it’s a processing problem when it comes to understanding words. Because these are simple words a lot of guys are just not understanding that someone could figure out from context clues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:55 PM
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Because they are told that being nice will draw people towards them First of all, were they actually being nice or did they want a reward for being nice? Second of all, why are grown men still thinking niceness was the end be all for getting people to like them? Did they not think any other traits matter? Like compatibility? Common interests? Common values? None of that ever came into their head throughout their first 18 years of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:51 PM
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Then explain why guys keep complaining that being nice doesnt women sexually attractive to them. No one told them that. So why do they keep complaining about it? Why do they keep saying people lie to them? And if men hates, enforce gender roles, why do they get mad when feminist want to get rid of genders and then cried that feminist hate masculinity when feminist addressed the toxic parts of masculinity? Why is it whenever someone brings up being agreeable or selfless, they immediately think of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:46 PM
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Apparently, that means you want men to be doormats.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:21 PM
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The study your link is referencing is studying mate preferences, not sexual attraction. https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2019/03/mate-preferences-and-their-behavioral-manifestations-FINAL-PUBLISHED-2019.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:04 PM
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we know that it's true simply cuz we've either seen it played out at a few times FEW. Do you know what the word few means? who quite literally post online about how they've just met the hottest man I keep forgetting this sub is filled with men who are gullible suckers to anybody who validates them. Do you guys not know what bias is? Do you not realize most people complement the people they like? is it common? very much not so but that's literally the point So chasing a fantasy, which is overrate…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:01 PM
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Nowhere did that guy say "and therefore I deserve a girlfriend." Then why bring up being a single feminist while his brother-in-law‘s are conservatives? Also, that conversation ended anyways because he misunderstood what I was saying. Which also goes into the fact, a lot of guys put themselves into a situation where they look worse because their communication skills are so terrible. He clearly said it to make the argument that not being misogynistic Don’t nitpick peoples words while you’re bring…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:57 PM
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It all depends on how the individual goes about it. The problem is people are usually dumber when it comes to relationships than they are about their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:40 PM
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This could easily be pointing to a video I didnt say it was, so conversation over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:31 PM
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I did I don’t care. Nothing to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:02 PM
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Not every video I didnt bring up videos, you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:59 PM
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It's engagement bait, Lillth. So guys here are just lying about who lied to them for attention. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:55 PM
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Not everyone in the examples literally spoke about sexual attraction So you guys aren’t even reading my post nor actually reading what I wrote. If you guys can’t even properly read what someone wrote, I highly doubt you properly heard what you were told.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:26 PM
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“ Not true. Almost everyone lied to me about this. My mother, female relatives, teachers, church, feminists, social workers, television, mothers of my friends. Theres almost no one who never said - or at least heavily implied to me - that womens sexuall attraction towards males is maybe not fully, but by a large part about prosocial behaviour and niceness.” Did you not even read what I was replying to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:18 PM
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They don't So why is the church being blamed for shit they didnt do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:16 PM
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What? To not be attracted to your potential partner Why would they be talking about generating sexual desire amongst people who are too young to be married? Are these the type of Catholic Church that need to be reported to the authorities? Because it sounds like an Epstein cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:11 PM
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since you seem to call yourself worthy of telling other people what they are Think being a good person is being weak, shows a lack of moral character.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:10 PM
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Yes, to some degree So why do you seem to have this pattern of only knowing fake people? I don’t know fake people because I bet them out of my social circle immediately. Also, it’s weird that you were implying that less attractive people aren’t full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:09 PM
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Because even if you won't sleep with them before marriage, it doesn't mean attraction doesn't play a role when choosing them The super religious don’t even want to teach teenagers about contraceptives because they fear they’ll get sexual. Why would they teach the youth to generate the very feelings that would lead to the thing church discourage? I need you to really explain how that makes sense to you. No That is a very well-known part of the church. So I’m starting to think you guys are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:04 PM
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He's catholic, it's for priests Priest take a vow of Chasity. So they don’t need to know what makes women sexually attracted to men. Christians are very big on no sex until marriage. So why is the church telling young people what makes the opposite gender sexually attracted to them? They shouldn’t be focused on that until they’re older and trying to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 12:53 PM
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i’m seeing irrelevant to you just means “i don’t wanna talk about this cause i probably don’t have a real answer” Thats what Im saying about you. So since you cant answer, its irrelevant. you’d be able to find examples of women thirsting after men’s looks if you were debating in good faith Lets go back to what you claimed. Cause we see ladies swear up and down (and i’ll argue against it every time) that “women don’t work like that” when we bring up that women can just be straight up physically a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 12:52 PM
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You couldn’t answer, so clearly no one said either, so your question is irrelevant to the post. Cause we see ladies swear up and down (and i’ll argue against it every time) that “women don’t work like that” You mean that women never said having morals was about being sexually attractive? Absolutely. when we bring up that women can just be straight up physically attracted to a man If this is such a popular thing, women do, you can find me an example. Because I bet that’s not actually the conversa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 12:11 PM
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Men are trash Dont talk to me about strawmanning while you strawman me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 12:02 PM
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Why do you guys never realize how weird it is that their teacher and church allegedly tell them how to be sexually attractive to females? That’s not a teacher‘s job and Christianity encourages Chasity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:57 AM
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Jesus was selfless which guys here consider being a weak doormat. Like I said before, if you're not even reading the conversation, I'm not going to continue conversing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:05 AM
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Better looking people like to pretend they're selecting primarily by someone's inherent goodness though, but that's a fat lie. Like I keep saying: DO YOU vet for inherent goodness?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:03 AM
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They're intentionally being obtuse. You expect people to read your mind as oppose to you guys simply just using the correct words that the English language provides?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:01 AM
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I can't, Then why are you blaming media? You can't even remember it. Grew up catholic Why are christians talking to you about being sexually attractive? That's the antithesis of Christianity because Chasity is a big virtue they hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:56 AM
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Still pushing that straw man. That's the conversation we're having. If you're not paying attention, then these conversations we are having are over and I'll be muting them until you follow the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:54 AM
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Nah, are we talking sexually attractive for a hookup or sexually attractive for a relationship? Who has said either? Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:53 AM
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often assume and tell men who are alone that it's because they're bad people Because they display bad behavior, usually misogyny, victim complex, victim blaming, and entitlement. instead of because they're just not attractive Elliot Rodgers said the same thing, despite the fact he felt entitled to hot blond sorority girls, poured coffee on women, and having a misogynistic entitled racist worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:53 AM
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Which proves that sexually speaking women have no moral center That's common sense because no one said otherwise except horny ass entitled nice guys. explains why women become bitter, angry and hateful due to their shitty dating choices. Just like men do. That's why horny ass entitled nice guys exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:50 AM
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I guess my female relatives, friends, teachers, etc Why are your teachers talking to you about being sexually attractive to females? That's fucking weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:49 AM
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television Name the media. church What religion are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:48 AM
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I already demonstrated that they are. Which of those words in that question have a definition comparable to the definition of attraction? Many of them are teenagers. Most people dont care what teenagers say because teenagers are naturally stupid. Thankfully, most grow out of being stupid. The bigger problem is that some of them stay mentally teenagers. From the male perspective So why would you say that? Male includes grown men. Why would you spend energy seeking things that aren't attractive? A…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:37 AM
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To further elaborate the problem, the world doesn't revolve around these men's feelings. They have to actually communicate in the way these words are defined objectively. Otherwise, why should people waste the time guessing what they're trying. Are these men mentally children? Because common guess what children are trying to say because their brains are exactly capable of good communication yet. Is that what you're implying of men? Because that sounds like the bigotry of low expectations. Guys h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:23 AM
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Of course the redpill would look at Jesus and call him a simp beta cuck because he didn't demand his female followers to fuck him as a reward for being such a great guy. That's obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:16 AM
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That's a stupid question Asking one thing and getting mad it wasnt the answer to another question is way more dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:09 AM
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moral character doesn't affect women's sexual attraction That's common sense because no one said otherwise except horny ass entitled nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:09 AM
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Did you notice it was A MAN saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:06 AM
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How does a man attract a woman independent of his personality? Get muscles and/or plastic surgery. If he's lazy and just likes staying home instead of doing social activities that the woman finds fun, Money. Or he's gonna have to be very specific about the type of women he wants. If he's a jerk and has bad morals, Looks or money. If he has no confidence and despises having to talk to women Money. Plenty of women had Musk's baby because of it. How should a man attract a woman who would not actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:42 PM
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These guys aren't "genuinely good men" Because you always want to conflate being good with submission. You made that conflation not me. Like I said, assholes think being good is disgusting and humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:33 PM
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You're talking about being subservient to women for no reason Because you and guys here think that's exactly what being a good person means. Evil cannot comprehend good. Guys here would call Jesus a cuck for helping hookers too, especially since he doesn't expect free sex from her as a reward. EDIT: Imagine thinking freeing people from enslavement is being "subservient to women".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:29 PM
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Notice the lack of evidence. Going back to the whole "Male Consequence Epidemic": People generally dont like guys who hear one thing and then make shit up about what was said. That actually is an asshole trait because that's blatant dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:28 PM
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"You should have known all the women in your family were lying to you." That's part of growing up is not blindly believe the people who raised you. Most people dont think about it because it's a natural part of not being 9 years old anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:24 PM
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You were the one saying men can't get laid because they're right wing. Copy and paste what I said. When I was 13 I thought "no scrubs" and "that dont impress me much" were bangers. ...................That's the extent of your feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:22 PM
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Also, frankly, no one is buying the idea that you don't understand this I understand some guys are stupid and have the critical thinking skills of a 9 year old. I just refrain from saying it until I get the evidence to back up my conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:21 PM
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I'm dishonest because.........the truth hurts and that alot of guys show a lack of maturity most adults gone through as early as middle school? Where's the dishonesty? Do men here still believe in Santa, tooth fairy, Easter Bunny, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:18 PM
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It has to do with the fact that being conservative is not a liability. SO?! This is why it sounds entitled. You brought that up for no reason. You're implying you believe being a feminist would get you laid, which is disgusting. Shows naivete because not every women cares that much about politics and plenty are conservative themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:16 PM
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Lol "so what every woman in your family You know most people mature to realize that their family can be flawed and to not be blindly trusted. However, this sub is filled with men who never reach that level of maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:15 PM
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Lady, I don't think you know what entitled means Then what the fuck does being a feminist and a conservative have to do with this conversation. Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:13 PM
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Find me one. People who give to the homeless as a first example. I'm sure this shocks people who only ignore the homeless and possibly victim blames them for being homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:12 PM
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Thats a path to becoming a doormat It's not. You guys just think being an actual good person is weak. Assholes think being a good person is a terrible thing because assholes are selfish and narcissistic. We're humans not God Imagine thinking someone has to be God to simply do good things like give money to the homeless. Truly a "evil cant comprehend good" moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:11 PM
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Cool, so you guys have zero evidence outside of you guys hearing something as a child. Who told you guys to not grow up and blindly believe everything you heard as a child? Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:09 PM
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they also have no reason to put up with a non-shitty personality. Most people already do. Do you not know what friends are? Nobody wants to be with a partner just because they are pleasant. First of all, 'nice guys' aren't even pleasant to be around. So there's not point even bringing that up. Unless by "shitty" you mean "boring", No, as in saying entitled misogynist shit but having no social tact to understand how awful they sound. if you have any friends then your personality is good enough fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:06 PM
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There is essentially no one on earth who would fit the description Plenty of people do. Assholes dont know any because assholes repel people away from them except other assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:03 PM
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There is no reciprocity to be expected That's part of being good. Why is this a new concept to you guys? Have you never heard of Jesus Christ? Have you never watched Superhero movies? Have you never watched Disney movies?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:02 PM
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Then what does you being a feminist and your brother in laws being conservatives have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:00 PM
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Nah women 100 percent tell men that the way to be attractive to women is by "being a nice guy." If it's such a common thing, you can definitely find me evidence of this happening. Go on. Find me evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:46 PM
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As always your definition of a "genuinely good man" seems to be a man who completely forgoes his own self interests SELFLESS?! Did you JUST discover the definition of SELFLESS?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:45 PM
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That's because "advice" like that isn't made to help. It does: Stop being an asshole. t's a bad faith accusation of wrongdoing For example, the guy I'm talking to just sounded entitled, as if he deserved a girlfriend just because he's a feminist. You can call it whatever, but most women are gonna see that as an entitled attitude. And if you guys are arguing how bad you sound ONLINE, I doubt you guys hear what you sound to others offline when they'll just simply walk away instead of correcting yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:44 PM
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I'm a feminist man, 38, can't find a girlfriend. My sisters are married to conservative men SO?! Also thats sounds entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:31 PM
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Men didn't invent the rules the dating game is played by Right, they make shit up no one told them to believe. We're just attempting to "win" given the set of rules we're forced to play by. How are men going to win by making up rules no one told them to believe? It's not my fault that being the nice guy failed with dozens of women The only people who at fault are the nice guys themselves and the men who keep making those stupid stories about mediocre guys getting hot women for being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:29 PM
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Unless a guy is Chad or rich, most men give people no reason to put up with a shitty personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:27 PM
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Because the question is what makes a man attracrive Was that question ACTUALLY ASKED?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:07 PM
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This mentality that women find good people hot was created by women tho. I’m still waiting for the proof that none of you clearly have. The whole implication of feminists calling it the "male consequences epidemic" Did you actually watch those videos or did you just get offended they’re criticizing “lonely men”? is that all of our problems are a reault of personal bad behavior. In great detail, explain how that translate to “So if I’m a good for Santa, someone will wet my dick!” It doesn't help …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:55 PM
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Because from his perspective Well his perspective is dumb, because he doesnt understand the english language.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:41 PM
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I don't know any man who wouldn't interpret that just as I said they would Notice how none of those words have the same definition of attracted? So why are they assuming women would know what they’re specifically asking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:33 PM
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Look at the typical Disney movie formula: the “good guy” gets the girl in the end. Boys growing up with this media don’t look at characters like Aladdin The media blindness in Disney come from the fact that they think those men were simply nice. Aladdin had to stop a villain who tried enslaving a princess and using the genie’s power for a coup. He selflessly used a wish to free Genie from the bottle. Before then, he stopped Jasmine from getting her hand chopped off after she accidentally stole. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:31 PM
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From his perspective, he is literally, bluntly, as clear as fucking day, Copy and paste the definition OF EVERY WORD you posted of "What do you look for in a man?", then. The english language has a dictionary. So lets see what it says these guys are objectively asking. Not what THEY FEEL they are asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:19 PM
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The whole problem is downhill of the fact that the genders don't speak the same language as each other It’s not women’s fault that a lot of men hear what they want to hear. That’s a personal problem. Most boys have the experience of asking the women and girls in their life "What do you look for in a man?" Its not women’s fault that men refuse to ask “ how do I get my dick sucked within two seconds of a woman in my presence?”. From the female perspective, the question sounds like "when you meet a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:13 PM
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That last paragraph was so stupid, I’m not even giving that my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:10 PM
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Everybody knows nice guys finish last, this isn't a secret That is a phrase said by entitled assholes who wish they were Chads. The normal man is frustrated because most advice given to them The normal man knows The Nice Guy is a creepy asshole with a sense of entitlement. most advice given to them, by women, is terrible The Normal Man admits no woman told him being nice made vaginas wet. The Nice Guy, however, keeps insisting women did WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT HAPPENING, Not because they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:10 PM
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"I actually have proof" You don't. A youtube channel about other people's misery primarily So I do have proof. You just dont like it. Yet even in your sociopath bait channel Calling people sociopaths doesn’t change that people don’t sympathize with stupid people just because they did stupid shit while being in love. Being allosexual is not an excuse for being stupid,
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:04 PM
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you didn't even ballpark attempt Do you want to actually debate or come with excuses why you can’t come up with a counter argument? According to your definition, I am still on the topic because the fantasy is more popular than it deserves to be, because it’s not real. So it’s done for people to chase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:00 PM
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throwing in phrases like "stupid fantasy" and "manchildren" I don’t care that you’re mad at my criticism. Do you have an actual argument. as per a google search, overrated is defined as something being judged as better, more popular, and/ or important than what it deserved Like a stupid fantasy people chase because they look at popular wish fulfillment media. you have to show that the reality of it is actually less satisfying than the fantasy of it Like men always bitching they have to play jest…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:01 PM
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All 3 people I named have had consistent income Not enough to be seen as a good father in this era. We have no clue what their exes vetted for. "Not with stupid people" Let me use the same rebuttal you just used I actually have proof of people having no sympathy for stupid people who get involved with romance scams. You just dont like that people don’t see falling in love as an excuse to being stupid. And being allosexual is also not an excuse to be stupid,
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:58 PM
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Well the only method of selecting fir good fathers that you have brought up is responsibility Your only counterexample was a guy who would have been considered a decent father in an era where even physical abuse was merely seen as a problem. I think each of those men have proven they have that Then youre a bad judge of character. Dont project that on others. People do sympathize Not with stupid people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:34 PM
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Do you think most men in the 1960s got divorced No, because divorce was looked down upon back then and this is the last time Im entertaining you going off topic. I think it's obvious if responsibility was the only or the primary thing selected for that each of those men fit the bill. We dont know if their exes gave a fuck about vetting against shitty baby daddies, The people who click on links Old people clicking on links that looked like they came from the IRS is not the same thing as a 28 year…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:00 PM
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Is your motivation of "being annoyed by loud complainers," My motivation certainly isnt to advertise men acting like R Kelly to cure inceldom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:35 PM
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You seem excessively picky, and that makes sense for an aro/ace woman such as you People can be allosexual and NOT stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:32 PM
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How much detail do you need? Why do the details even matter in this example? Because your grandpa isnt out the ordinary for his time, so using him as an example was bad. Plus there's still Steve Jobs and Brad Pitt. Who’s to say their exes werent stupid and ignored red flags? Also, I dont care enough about those celebrities to know personal lives. You're dodging the point Your point has nothing to do with the post. You have your gramps from a bygone era and three rich assholes with no proof they …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:29 PM
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But you do complain about them Because they wanna blame everyone else for the stupid shit they do. So if guys want less people criticizing them, they should take responsibility for the stupid shit they do. Notice how you tried going off topic instead of accepting guys should take responsibility for themselves and stupid shit they do,
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:46 PM
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. You can still work hard Work hard at what? Plenty guys here work hard at doing stupid shit, like chasing hot girls who manipulate them out of money and a free meal. Hell, plenty of guys here admit they DONT work hard, they just cling onto any women that approach them and then whine that those women suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:44 PM
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the post title isn't about debating whether or not it is fantasy Its overrated because thats a stupid fantasy only manchildren think is realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:21 PM
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relationship is also a great setup for safer and better Most people want more than a glorified fuckbuddy. How would you know seriously? Because if they werent being whiny bitches blaming everyone, no one would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:06 PM
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Just like you can STFU Im not blaming other people for my self-inflicted problems, so its not the same thing. If you go making your problems everyone else’s problem, people will have something to say about. So if guys want less people criticizing them, they should take responsibility for the stupid shit they do,
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:05 PM
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That's incorrect, it's worth it Then they STFU when it doesnt go their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:54 AM
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having women by and large go from very preliminarily interested in you to overwhelmingly and enthusiastically obsessed with you, especially physically, is and will always be stupendously awesome Its a fantasy. And it shows both genders can be dumb for chasing a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:53 AM
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Actually good post and opinion i agree with and suprise you didn't just hate on men You guys have no proof I ever hated on men. You just don’t like when people of your gender gets criticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:52 AM
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Those women who literally approached them do desire Then they can STFU about her other flaws and stop blaming society for the dumbass women they attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:50 AM
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Jesus christ you can't say that and call out men for not wanting to get in relationships Most of them do try to get into a relationship because they know they can’t do well with hook ups. many men are actually taking care of their looks And they’re not the whiny little bitches being addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:49 AM
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He was just as responsible, without terrorizing his children. You’re not even going into details about that. It’s funny you think back in those days they gave a single fuck about emotional abuse. Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, and Brad Pitt are examples of modern responsible men who are terrible parents. Elon Musk was literally chosen just because he had money. Musk is literally paying women to have his kid. Do you honestly think for a single moment Musk’s baby mamas gave a single shit about him outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:46 AM
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The point is that you're acting like there's easy, rational measurements of people that give you enough information to make logical assessments Your only counterargument was yourgrandama being married to a guy that was considered a decent husband back in those days. How about coming up with a more modern day counter?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:20 PM
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What do you expect them to do? STFU when those women suck because those are the women you guys choose to only interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:15 PM
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Thats your comeback to being caught not paying attention to the conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:02 PM
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My grandpa always paid the bills, always made sure food was on the table, always paid taxes, never broke the law, didn't drink or do drugs, created a successful business etc. He was also an emotionally abusive tyrant. He had unreasonable standards that could never be met Back in the day, that was considered a decent father. Now can we talk about the current year? Your definition of baseline attractive was aling the lines of "not being disgusted by the thought of sex with them". So NOT unattracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:42 PM
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Romance scams are pretty irrelevant It shows people don’t sympathize with idiots. Elderly people fall for phishing emails Email Phishing: Bulk or targeted messages mimicking banks, stores, or tech companies with fake login links. Thats not the same thing as sending money to someone who’s hot and says I love you, And? That 1/3 of Americans That shows how few people are desirable in this country. I gotta go do shit, so I’ll continue with another reply later,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:29 PM
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The problem is that it’s also dependent on the culture. Because if a culture is more lenient on these crimes, they don’t consider them crimes. And if these cultures typically victim blame, victims are less likely to report. And in more affluent areas, perpetrators are more likely to have the money to get lighter sentences. Look at P. Diddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:13 PM
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If they don't like nerdy people doing "nerdy" stuff You said this while I mentioned them criticizing creeps. So clearly, you think being a creep is being nerdy. It’s not me strawmanning, its you not paying attention to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:55 PM
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What does that have to do with you guys waiting for horny women to approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:52 PM
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First step of accountability, is being accountable for your own time Like waiting around for women to talk to you and act super horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:52 PM
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So horny ass women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:49 PM
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As a human you're expected to have emotions Youre also expected to not be stupid. For example: https://youtube.com/@catfishedonline?si=N-6AzBy6Keg2vtHA This youtube channel is about romance scams. Most of the comments is talking about how stupid those people are for falling for obvious scams because they saw hot people texting them. Humans are not sympathetic to stupidity. Even with 70% of the country being overweight Being fat is considered conventionally unattractive. Responible doesn't actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:28 PM
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Women are genuinely lazy in courtship I don’t care, take responsibility for the people you choose to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:19 PM
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What does that have to do with the conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:14 PM
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Love is an emotion, so is desire As an adult, you’re expected to use your brain. People want an emotional connection People can have that without being stupid. That’s why people discouraged young people from having kids, because they’re stupid and make very stupid decisions when it comes to picking a partner. This isn't super important but I think it's weird you'd single out America Because that’s the country I’m from and a large portion of English speakers are from. How would you even select fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:34 PM
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No one cares that you don’t like criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:06 PM
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So you think those are the only women who are victims of abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:05 PM
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What does that have to do with this conversation? This post is about the unrealistic expectations of what this desire is supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:04 PM
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I realize I was on here a little bit too much, so I took a break to do something more productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:59 PM
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Although I dont think they dont say it because they sound stupid, they dont say it and maube dont even materialize that thought, because they dont even think that possible. So they’re too stupid to know that they’re that stupid. That actually makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:58 PM
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It's not literally some Neanderthal type thinking My apologies, they probably evolve to think better than that. I should’ve said more like animals. Like low IQ animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:56 PM
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We have: Git gud. They dont wanna gut gud. They want to be entilted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:42 PM
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Why do guys here keep complaining about the stupid fickle they wanna fuck? Its not society fault they wanna fuck stupid fickle women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:40 PM
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This is what we are actualy saying But most guys who think like that won’t admit that’s what they actually want because they know how stupid and entitled they sound. They’re just as dumb unrealistic and egotistical as the women they complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:38 PM
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So, what do you suggest for men to not be "lazy" Holy shit, do men actually need to be told to go out and approach women like MOST MEN ALREADY DO? There’s no hope for guys who are that stupid. prioritizing women who clearly enthusiastically desire them? Why should women desire them? Just because they have a penis between their legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:34 PM
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It's strawmanning because you took a reasonable premise No, it’s not reasonable to only want to think with your genitals and only want to be around people who think with their genitals. It’s stupid. That’s literally some Neanderthal type thinking. Instead of addressing what I actually said I don’t even think you read my post, but I’m going to reply to you as if you did read my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:32 PM
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Most men are not hot enough for the level of desire you guys want from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:17 PM
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Way to strawman the hell out of that How was that a strawman when that’s the topic of this post? Or did you not actually read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:15 PM
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So if there's a lack of desire on either side, it's completely reasonable to simply choose to stay single Yes, most people don’t wanna be with a person who needs to be worshiped in order for a relationship to feel worth it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:50 PM
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The potential of finding someone (or someone finding them) who love them for who they are The problem is most of these guys that Im addressing suck. Who they are is shitty and they dont want to stop being shitty. They always complain that the advice of being yourself doesn’t work, but you know what they hate more? Being told that they should change for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:04 PM
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this reads like yet another stfu Most people want people who have a victim complex to shut up and stop blaming everyone else for their self-inflicted problems. isn't based off them choose wrong women I had another post where guys admitted they go after women who approached them first. They’re that lazy and desperate for validation. They are literally bitching about the morals of women when they never gave a fuck about moral women in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:01 PM
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It's clearly aimed at men Even when I bring up women, you guys want to complain that I brought up men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:58 PM
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Its a weird irrational fear because they do absolutely nothing to pursue overcoming this problem. They don’t try to look good, and they don’t try to pursue women who love sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:17 PM
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They definitely can if they’re not stupid and willing to learn from the mistakes of their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:15 PM
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My issue is not only are they not honest about what they’re really upset about, they can’t even answer why should someone strongly desire them anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:58 PM
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is widely consider to be an insult to the other party as it denies them the possibility of their potential What potential?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:57 PM
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is widely consider to be an insult to the other party as it denies them the possibility of their potential What potential?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:57 PM
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Boo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:22 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:43 PM
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A person who are similar minded are gonna have similar mindsets How did that change a single thing I said? Or do you not like that I actually have seen people talk about the problem with autistic guys and nerds, especially other autistic nerds? If they don't like nerdy people Oh, so you define nerdy as being creeps who like weird stuff that involves children in disgusting inappropriate situations. No, most people don’t have that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:28 PM
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Most women don’t think about short men like that. You guys have no proof average looking women do that, ugly women doing that don’t fucking matter because you wouldn’t want their asses anyways, and you only show hot women being mean to short men. You guys are mad that hot women don’t like short guys, but you can’t admit that because it sounds stupid. So you pretend your complaint is about all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:22 PM
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Most people don’t like a guy who gets upset at criticism and then pretend the criticism is sexist, knowing full well no one made a sexist generalization against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:21 PM
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Exactly. What? Why do you spend every day complaining about how men are so awful then? Whay?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:11 PM
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Most people don’t like a guy who gets upset at criticism and then pretend the criticism is sexist, knowing for well, no one made a sexist generalization against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:10 PM
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Copy and paste where I said that. If guys constantly like this play this game where they argue against stuff, women haven’t said, it’s no wonder the moral women with strong convictions don’t talk to them. Those guys are just annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:37 PM
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I have a cousin who has autism and is a nerd, she tells me what happens with these guys who also nerdy and autistic who struggle. They’re not sweet little babies, they’re inconsiderate weirdos and predators. Unlike you, my cousin can describe how these guys are by very extensive details. Anime it's not "nerdy" exclusive anymore I don’t care that you don’t like the example. That’s a common criticism the nerd community gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:32 PM
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You guys wouldn’t have been bothered because you wouldn’t have wanted the ugly chick anyways. And you guys can’t even show me proof that average looking women talk shit about short men. Every proof you guys show is a conventionally, attractive woman, talking shit about short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:26 PM
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Nerdy men here don't even get dates If he’s not even getting a first date, chances are its his fault. With how nerd culture is becoming popular, you’re gonna tell me he can’t find a nerdy woman? No, he’s a creep that’s why he can’t get a date. He probably watches anime like Jobless Reincarnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:50 PM
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A minority of men degrade ugly women too You compare that to conventionally attractive women mocking short men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:48 PM
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Is becoming more and more obvious that guys here want to be validated by hot women and pretend to be victims when it doesn’t go their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:45 PM
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Then they stop looking because the answers they get don't help at all. How are you defining help? Is it defined as getting their dicks sucked out of pity? Is it having hot blonde sorority girls approach them begging to fuck them? That kind of help?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:40 PM
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Interacting and lack of interacting greatly affects your observations. So you guys are trying to make claims about female nature without factoring in the things you’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:30 PM
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So you guys don’t talk to people unless they talk to you and then you call that observing female nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:01 PM
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So now we don't speak to them you say? According to the other guys I’m talking to about this topic, no. They don’t. Also, it begs the question where are you meeting women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:00 PM
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I dont even know why im asking you Because you’re trying to insult me and you don’t like that I’m calling you out on it. Instead of actually addressing the argument I made. Which is a logical fallacy that you were doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:31 PM
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Scroll up and you will see You’re making a claim about me and you can’t even copy and paste the evidence. Meanwhile, I typically copy and paste what I am addressing. You do it for most of your comments Then you have ample amounts of evidence to use against me. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:25 PM
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And with you it's always the guy, If everywhere smells like shit, check your shoe. I just described an obstacle to communication You wait around for women to talk to you guys, which is not what most men do. And if shy/reserved/non-expressive women must learn to stick their neck out, Most guys don’t wait around for a woman to talk to them. Learn some accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:24 PM
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Im going to give you an obvious example and analogy so hopefully you can see what i mean. I can say "most guys dont like blueberries" and you will go on to say "WOW MEN MUST HATE ALL FRUIT" If you’re not simply trying to insult me, then copy and paste when I did something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:05 PM
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In the very same post I mentioned guys do engage with these other women, but they are low-key, not very responsive, don't contribute with much energy to the interaction The theme of a lack of accountability is so constant in this post. The common denominator is never the guy? Never?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:00 PM
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A lot here arent because places like this attract people who are insecure and are looking for someone else to blame So what are you actually arguing with me about? Or is it that you didn’t really read my post? They dont choose to believe it, but its a lot easier to remember experiences that give you extreme negative feelings So they’re just over emotional and stupid while pretending their objective and logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:58 PM
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It's not about just, when men make the claim that attractoin is mainly about looks and charismas, But that’s not the issue what it comes to this topic. The issue that guys here never notice when your high priority on looks and charisma causes unintended consequences. Then want to blame everyone else but themselves for the unintended consequences. women are the ones who mostly push morals as more important, For example, if guys focus less on her being hot and charismatic, they could spot out when…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:47 PM
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Men want non fake and fickle people Then stop waiting around for women to talk to you, because clearly that’s a bad strategy. Talk about a lack of personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:41 PM
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Didn’t we already establish that it’s not typically women who approach and initiate things? So why are men waiting around for women to do that? They base their observations on female behavior on the results of them not even acting like the typical guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:38 PM
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The only study that showed on personality was about humor and even that was looking at the correlation of interest in date, and if humor indicates intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:37 PM
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Okay? Like what kind of argument is that? Did you read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:32 PM
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They are different but there are also studies showing women claiming that kindness is attractive May I see those studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:52 AM
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Most women in terms of preference for partner Do you notice attracted to morality is NOT the same as having a preference for a partner with kindness and empathy? Do you have preferences for friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:38 AM
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Part 2 of asking questions since I'm oh so disingenuous and bad faith and making claims of you with no evidence. I hope you dont run from this conversation. Wouldn't want people suspecting that you just made those claims because you couldn't defend your arguments! Calling men “sexist manchildren” doesn’t answer the question. If attraction is more complex than just rewarding good morals, Who told men that it was only about rewarding good morals? and if women don’t consistently apply the standard …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:36 AM
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The reason you are disingenuous you are bad faith is because you make a claim of my motivation with out evidence, Then let me only ask questions by going back to your previous reply to me. Though, perhaps this is where you stop replying and run away from the conversation?: My point is that many women publicly claim morality is a prerequisite for attraction, yet some are still drawn to men who clearly don’t meet that standard. You claim "I am not focused on fake and fickle" but then why are you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:30 AM
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Genuinely good ken dont care about those women, So men here aren't genuinely good. That's my point. you are assuming all men are into those women... Copy and paste where I said that. Thats what they observe around them with a lense of confirmation bias Why would they want to believe all women are liars and want terrible men? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:16 AM
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Sometimes i feel like you are projecting your own insecurities So you attack my character rather than to address the argument. It speaks volumes that you have no real counter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:14 AM
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I asked you a bunch of questions you still haven't addressed what you said: The same woman can publicly value good character yet date someone who doesn't live up to that standard because attraction involves many factors besides morality.. Why is it that you guys are so focused on fake and fickle women? "you are actually disingenuous and bad faith" why is that your answer to my questions? Is it because you'd have to notice why you're not better than they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:11 AM
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I could also throw it back the other way and say the women that claim they want a respectful, kind and caring man... dont really want a respectful, kind and caring man, they fawn over the bad boy. Do you believe that? You clearly dont believe it... so why do you believe it with the genders reversed? Going to copy and paste because you definitely didn't read: I say this because alot of guys are obsessed with women who say they want a good guy but go around guys who are obviously bad. YEAH. FAKE A…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:05 AM
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“See men just want shallow women” No, it's not. It's "You guys are shallow, that's why you only know shallow, fake, fickle, immoral women."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:01 AM
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Are you just upset that I'm calling guys out for the types of women you guys clearly want? Also, some guys just admitted they wanted those women because those women approach them. Meaning, these guys are shockingly lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:00 AM
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If we just look at literally just his words, these guys are lazy and then blaming their laziness on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:50 AM
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They make no effort whatsoever to put themselves in the paths of men, So according to you guys, men are lazy as hell. And then want to blame women because they only know fake, fickle, immortal women that date vile men because he's too lazy to go talk to women himself. Thus, showing a massive lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:44 AM
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Talking. Values. Hobbies. You guys wouldn't be always tired out getting women to like you if you focused on being likable and focusing on finding women you like what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:41 AM
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it's also, women who claim they find 1 men attractive every few month. So being superficial is men unless the guy is looking closer to Jeremy Meeks. again we have countless examples of guys who really should be incels but aren't due to being attractive. Most guys aren't going to get to that level. And also examples of guys who do everything right By their own standards, not by what society actually told him. Women have never told men that being nice was sexy. No one told men that women get horny…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:38 AM
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Absolute pieces of shit are pretty rare though They's not rare. First of all, 1 in 6 boys have/had a positive view of Andrew Tate. That's not rare. Also, if being a piece of shit was rare, why is cheating common?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:27 AM
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It could also point to men being more trusting than women, That doesnt work when they then start saying misogynistic shit about women based on his laziness of expecting women to approach him. simply being worse at judging character. Yeah, I know. At any rate there's no reason to assume that women who initiate with men rather than doing the gender role crap are always going to be fake/immoral women Except the post is about fake and fickle women who date vile men. Assuming you guys actually read t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:21 AM
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So guys are lazy, they're not talking to women, and then they wanna talk shit about women based on their experiences of expecting women to approach them, getting upset that she's fake and fickle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:18 AM
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... by talking to them? By being flirty? So he's so lazy he doesnt talk to other women and then proceeds to talk massive shit about women because the ones who talk to him because they're fake, fickle, and date awful men? If anything acting super horny and obsessed will push a guy away from seeking an LTR. Then why do you guys seem to only know women who allow men to treat her like shit? What's with the obsession of from this sub for men to be "strongly desired" by women? What's with this three d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:17 AM
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movies Name the movies. It's only the last half decade maybe where we have insane chicks going on podcasts saying you need $500k/year and be built like Adonis Imagine my shock, guys wanting to hear what a bunch of hot girls with their titties out have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:23 AM
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Unless he is an absolute piece of shit That's the issue. We're talking about pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:22 AM
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I mean, when it comes to dating most people are picky and shallow. Even the "good" ones. Exactly, they're full of shit. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:21 AM
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Here's the problme with your little theory, he's implying men dont want moral women because they dont approach men. But thing is, if men find this women to be so fake and fickle, wanting bad men, WHY would they want those women? Easier sexual access is the only logical answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:20 AM
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So why are they complaining about the women who approach them? If they find them annoying, approach women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:18 AM
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Again the stuff that only matters once your in the door. Most guys are, but if he's a superficial piece of shit the requirements gonna be higher to tolerate that bullshit of his. he has the personality The guys you describe have horrid personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:14 AM
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I made a post about this: You guys can't be upset with women who dont care about morals when you also dont care about morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:11 AM
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I've seen it with EVERY type of women across the board Sounds like having a type. Because if different types women of women aren't pursuing different types of guys, I'm gonna have to question what makes them so different from one another. It doesn't matter if they're trashy or tradcons, If she's wanting vile people, she's trashy. Like I said, you guys give attractive women way too much credit. There's fake and fickle woman in every subculture and culture and socioeconomic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:09 AM
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There is, however, a shortage of those people who are available and attractive. Then why isn't THAT the complaint? Because these guys know they sound picky and shallow as hell, instead of the victims they want to pretend to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:23 AM
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Because those fake women are more willing to actually make a move on those guys, Oh wow, I was right. Wanting horny women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:21 AM
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Be nice, be giving, be sweet, do this for her, do that for her, don't be like those player assholes, etc. No one said to do that to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:18 AM
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something needs to grab someone’s attention before you can sell a product The guy could focus on compatibility or he can be a superficial attention whore, wondering why women who care about morals dont want his attention whoring ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:59 AM
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The guy said "any signs to work with". How would they be getting that sign from other women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:58 AM
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"I don't want to make women uncomfortable, so I don't make a move on them unless they've given me some kind of sign that they're receptive to such an advance." That doesnt explain why they only focus on the fake and fickle women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:57 AM
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The nice guy act is not real safety. It’s just not danger. Nah, alot of times, it's hidden danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:56 AM
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But those good girls aren't giving the guys any signs to work with, Oh wow, imagine my shock, admitting these guys want women super horny and obsessed. so the guys are respecting her by not moving in on her. Neither are the other women!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:49 AM
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Being in shape, In America, that's high looks standards. I don't think all or even most of those attractive women are fake or bimbos But they're the ones most likely to appeal to the male gaze. So these guys are picky, shallow, and dont give two shits about morals. They're just like the women they about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:44 AM
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The confusion and frustration comes from many women talking about how important moral traits are for a guy, and implying guys that struggle dating are probably deficient in these, but then the real world does not really support that. Simple question to guys to the mirror: Why should people put up with your shit? Most women absolutely will go for guys that are morally average or slightly leaning towards being an asshole if they are good looking Good looking is an outlier. Therefore, for most men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:42 AM
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The perspective is that all the sweet meeks are taken, or already know who they want to be with. Sounds more like a confession these guys are low quality. I could also throw it back the other way and say the women that claim they want a respectful, kind and caring man... dont really want a respectful, kind and caring man, they fawn over the bad boy. Do you believe that? Did you read the title and the first paragraph?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:34 AM
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I don't think the issue is that morals "don't matter". The issue is that no matter what, everyone wants someone they're attracted to But why are they only attracted to fake and fickle women? They can't find attractive women who aren't bimbos? Because it sounds like their looks standards are high.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:09 AM
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Let me make this short: What liberal media and liberal political commentators are your young liberal friends watching? If they're passionately liberal, they're following some influencers. Which ones are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:46 PM
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You seem to have forgotten we're talking about DATING in this post. Also YOUNG WOMEN. Most young women are nowhere near marriage in this day, especially liberal women. So you bringing up women, who are clearly older, is irrelevant to the conversation. I didn't think I had to say it outright. I THOUGHT I didn't have to bring up the videos, but I guess I do. If guys were able to find liberal women that chill, they wouldn't be complaining about them and those liberal women wouldn't be saying they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:33 PM
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They don't understand why abusers are adored and chosen for relationship. They go 'I never beat or abused someone, yet I get less, why?' Why should I research on abuse? I am not abuse victim. So it's not genuine curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:05 PM
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thry have children and only 1/3 are "married". That means 2/3 aren't. So you're already talking outside the demographic. Nope. But most leftists do! Didn't think I'd have to say it: If she's young and passionate, she'll most likely be a leftist. Even the ones who are not like "Everything triggers me" are not going to break bread with republicans. They'll admit that alot of leftists are looney and terrible, but they're not going to concede to republicans. More descriptions of deranged violent lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:33 PM
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Because they wanna be selfish inconsiderate pricks, like objectifying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:25 PM
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It's fascinating how one person can be so contradictory, So how is being considerate and coddling the same thing. Tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:17 PM
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But do you truly believe that it is possible to struggle without doing anything wrong? Im waiting for proof of that. Even the proof I'm given was just the guys being superficial assholes. And women are fair and just and look for compatibility and vibes, not just appearence and height. Those are bad women, you don't want them anyway, right? If it ALWAYS the case, that guy just wants superficial women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:04 PM
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Now tell me how it is my fault Well, show your profile. The guy who swiped 2 million times also thought he did nothing wrong and was trying to show tinder and women are unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:57 PM
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You vet because you still has volume. Men also vet, just not as superficial as women. So I posted about some of the experiments that showed how hard men have it. One guy got 290 matches and only talked to 99 women. He outright ignored the with 191 women. Also, he set his age range to 18 to 25 despite being 22. He could have extended it to 18 to 30 if he was actually struggling with volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:48 PM
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I personally know several women who meet all 4 criteria who are dating, engaged to, or married to men who self-define as moderate, Most young people are unmarried and childless, especially liberal women. oppose drag queen story hour/gender unicorn/pronoun pins/transition of minors/transition by schools without parental consent, Most young passionately liberal women would just call that bigotry. support deporting illegals who commit crimes, Most young liberal passionate women hate ICE and are try…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:46 PM
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No, it's just pragmatic realism. You can't be compatible with everyone, And yet, you guys will sit there focusing on volume rather than success, then complain about wasting time. here will be bad dates or just not good ones. It's ok. You guys are okay wasting time with incompatible people because you care more about volume. Remembrr your last date? Yes, my first dates got more successful when I focused more on vetting than volume. It was your last chance, We already looked through the profile of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:39 PM
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We want someone compatible, You guys keep claiming this as if that's important, but it's not. You want volume. If you cared about compatibility you would be more concern if those 3 women are compatible. You guys care more about volume. You'll take 100 dates to get 1 successful one over 10 dates and get 5 successful ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:28 PM
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Thing is, most people aren't going to call out your flaws while dating. They'll simply stop dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:25 PM
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Does not warrant women's ~3% right swipe rate. So you dont actually care about compatibility. You care about volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:20 PM
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Not much to research here. Saying you dont believe abuse is well researched shows you haven't tried researching on abuse for even a single second. Some outwardly judged and condemned behavioral patterns are rewarded in practice. Thanks for showing an emotional opinion on the topic instead of researching on it like a logical person would.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:19 PM
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What I'm saying is that the incels complaining about abusers can't even be a dickhead to women, Elliot Rodgers' own words: "While they throw themselves at these obnoxious brutes." Im pretty sure posting the rest of what Elliot said will get me flagged, so here's an article about it: https://www.mic.com/articles/89905/what-elliot-rodger-said-about-women-reveals-why-we-need-to-stamp-out-misogyny?utm_source EDIT: Also, I compiled what you were talking about "I think if some men were capable of beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:16 PM
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If anything, they're being overly logical. Logical people research.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:05 PM
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Most of the country So you're still ignoring the factors I said: Young Liberal Female Passionate about politics. Again, I just named four different factors you’re ignoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:36 PM
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Women want to be adored simply for "being there".. How about stop chasing Stacy? Because if that's all you see, there you're chasing women who are highly desirable. Lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:34 PM
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If that's what guys here call being considerate of others, that's why they're told their personality is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:31 PM
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You didn't reference the post. I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:30 PM
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does that also not imply there like... mid personality women? Let's look at a funny example. Do you think a woman with mid personality standards be okay with a guy who says these things in a text? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EKJZ330TE6w Complaining that ones nature does not benefit them does not mean they will only do good if they are rewarded. Why are they doing things to benefit themselves? I give beggars money because I have money and it's the right thing to do. I hate doing good things so…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:30 PM
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Or maybe they are just confused? Then they better stop being confused immediately and do some research. On a logical level, it could seem confusing why women choose abusers They better immediately go research on abuse. But logic does not account for feelings and emotions. Being overemotional is not an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:18 PM
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What I'm saying is that the incels complaining about abusers can't even be a dickhead to women, much less an abuser. I mean, r/niceguys shows that's not the case. How do you try to be an abuser? Before Elliot Rodger committed his final act, he poured coffee on women for not paying attention to him. Chris Chan still never had a girlfriend and he was still sexually harassing his friend. And this is before he raped his own mother. He wouldn't have attempted to SA her if she wasn't helpless due to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:15 PM
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Im still waiting for the names.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:31 PM
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A popular media example is Megamind. Megamind gave powers to a guy he saw as meek and gentle. Onve that guy got power, he became an even worse villain than Megamind. But anyway, I wasn't talking about criminals But my post mentions abusers. Physical and sexual abuse or felonies. I was talking about guys who string women along Oh. Those guys try. They’re just not good at it. Things that 'decent' men seem to be able to do without being called indecent. I’m going to need an example from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:57 PM
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Is it "entitled" to ask why your narrative doesn't fit reality? People have already addressed that topic and I even addressed it in my post. These guys aren’t asking questions, they’re assholes who are mad people won’t coddle them. If they were actually curious, they would listen and search for the answers that are already there. They don’t want to know the answer, they want people to tell them that they’re a little good boys who deserve everything, like the entitled pricks they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:46 PM
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I think if some men were capable of becoming that asshole man that they describe hating, they would have already done it. Because they know the consequences arent worth it. Who wants to the the Tate brothers right now? Many of them dont care about the consequence and do things like Elliot Rodgers did, why do you think incels became recognized as an international theeat? There’s more to say, but I wanted to make sure you understood, they would if they were okay with the consequences or if the con…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:40 PM
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Who are they exactly The men you’re describing. If you don’t remember what you wrote, then this conversation is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:20 PM
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See how you can’t even defend against the accusation of victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:20 PM
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So they don’t feel their responsible for their own actions. I explained why I came to the conclusions I did. They don’t change because you don’t like how your actions and belief sound to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:06 PM
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I will actually take this criticism, I used a poor choice of words. And if those guys took responsibility more instead of arguing, when they’re criticized, they would be liked a lot more. But, this is not about how good a person you are, this is about how attractive you can appear. We are talking about the reason their dating lives are bad This was already address in my post: A lot of these guys seem to want women with very low personality standards. They imagine a woman who has dated the worst …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:05 PM
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attempting to advance one's self interest in a position of powerlessness. Powerlessness because of desperation? Here we go again, off in your own lilith world Except you just said men are powerless, so they don’t feel their responsible for their own actions. I explained why I came to the conclusions I did. They don’t change because you don’t like how your actions and belief sound to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:01 PM
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Good people are as fallible as anyone else. Oh yes, like people bring up CSA as a solution to inceldom will totally be seen as good by the general problem. Bad people claim theyre flawed misunderstood good people all the time. What they think and what they do determines whether they’re good or bad, not their own opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:58 PM
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Neither, I am not interested in relationships whatsoever Then why would you say? It implies that heterosexual intercourse, which is a shared male/female activity, is dominated, certainly in the lower brackets, by women's power So ignoring red flags to get sex….so thinking with one’s dick. Then why do women have universal access to sex and romance? Because alot of men are desperate and think with their dicks, but they want to believe theyre the majority. Otherwise they have to take accountability…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:46 PM
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Which is just at best your interpretation of someone's feelings See, you guys don’t want to hear when people say your actions might be conveying the opposite of what you’re feeling. You guys are simply the ones I don’t want to listen because you hate criticism. I'll say for the second time, if they're victim blaming and hurling abuse at a woman they're interested in The fact that it’s only a problem when it’s someone the man it’s interested in says a lot. But go ahead and complain about me criti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:43 PM
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My question isn’t about whether fake or inconsistent people exist that’s obvious. Then why are you bringing up the obvious? My point is that many women publicly claim morality is a prerequisite for attraction, yet some are still drawn to men who clearly don’t meet that standard. Yes, fake and fickle people exist. Why are you bringing up the obvious? That contradiction is what people are asking about. Fake and fickle exist. Why are they asking the obvious? I’m not holding men to a “higher standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:29 PM
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Not getting into a relationship lowers your chances of having a succesful relationship infinitely more than poor behaviour once in them. So youre more concerned about getting into a relationship, rather than concerned about being into a good one. Most people dont think like that. A desperate person thinks like that. It's said because it's true. Their personality made them unattractive. Which is a problem unique to men That implies men don’t think a bad personality makes a woman unattractive. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:17 PM
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and also accusing me of doing sexist bullshit This post is about men being sexists, so why are you arguing against people not liking them? Did you not read the post? I gave you the benefit of a doubt, but it seems you didn’t read the post. when you don't even know me You don’t know me, and you don’t know women enough to know they don’t give men the benefit of a doubt. So why are you projecting? You get to make claims about people while others can’t? We're sick of it, and the Red Pill is our way …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:13 PM
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Then elaborate, why isn’t there a relationship between what I’m saying and what you’re saying. I bet you can’t explain it because you just don’t wanna answer what I said because you dont have a real counter. You guys clearly think most people will ignore red flags to get into a relationship. I’m telling you right now that’s not the majority of people. That’s just being desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:58 PM
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But you aren’t talking about behaviors, Thanks for showing YOU dont listen. This whole post has been about behavior. Nice guys aren’t bad because they feel the way they feel Its what how they behave and how they talk, but you do t want to hear that because none of you like criticism. Are the actions these commit make them assholish things? Are the words they say to the women they’re interested in offensive? Whiny? Entitled? “ Also, most men also do not spend their time victim blaming abuse victi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:57 PM
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Also, plenty of guys dumped their friend after seeing how those friends treat and talk to women. And plenty of people think they’re talking to a decent person until they see that the decent person actually likes weird shit with children in it or had fucked up opinions. In relationships and dating, these things usually come out because relationships typically require knowing somebody on an intimate level, while with friendships, you can just merely be acquaintances you talk to once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:31 PM
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When you say things like “They want her to see them as a savior and reward them with sex, admiration, and gratitude” Then stop sounding like that. You guys don’t seem to want to listen to people telling you how bad you sound to others. It still goes back to what I was saying, what you guys feel is irrelevant versus how you guys behave to others. You can prove that someone is in a situationship or not because situationships are an action Going around complaining about how good of a guy you are an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:27 PM
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Everything they grew up on led them to believe that women want a good man That doesn’t mean you guys are acting like the good men they want, as I explained in the post. You know, the guy who saves the damsel in distress Iso media made by men for male consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:18 PM
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You can’t decide to disagree with someone else’s feelings Thank you for proving my point. We do listen to you guys say that. We’re saying you’re feelings don’t change facts and reality. Just because you don’t feel like an asshole doesn’t mean you’re not an asshole. “Actually when you guys say how you feel you actually mean x”. Because you guys don’t feel like an asshole, you guys won’t listen to people say you sound like an asshole, which is why they don’t like you. You guys will go on to say ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:13 PM
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Which is a problem unique to men No, a lot of men with their genders and are upset that they can’t get women to think with their genitals. Not getting into a relationship lowers your chances of having a succesful relationship infinitely more than poor behaviour once in them. Most people don’t get into relationships that they can predict will be low quality. It wouldn't matter what women said or didn't say if it wasn't for the very real power they exercice Most men don’t talk like that and most a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:10 PM
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Women do listen. You guys just think we should coddle and agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:07 PM
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Np .reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vb8l3h/comment/p0rqhem/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:06 PM
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We have to prove our worth before we deserve nice treatment Most men dont think like this. We don't deserve the benefit of the doubt So you guys wanna do some sexist bullshit and not deal with the consequences of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:05 PM
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Polls regarding isolated men don't show any major ideological lean Because they never asked incels their views on social justice and feminism. Only exception is dating apps, where (all else equal) openly conservative men do worse than other types You just proved my point. Anti-woke guys are just more likely to be outspoken about the issue Theyre also more likely to be bigots with a victim complex. Pro-woke guys obey liberal feminism and don't complain about being alone, Okay? So?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:03 PM
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If you cant even name the media that lied to you, you werent lied to by media. If youre willing to lie about that, youre willing to lie about the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:00 PM
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Y'all create new characteristics for the men here I have merely been copying and pasting what guys here said and tell them how it sounds to other people. Also, no one said they have no personality. Youre the one making stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:59 AM
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Probably not much she could have done. I rest my case. Stop victim blaming. Are you trying to say that saying "people should take precaution" automatically means I'm blaming anyone who gets attacked anywhere, anytime, in any circumstance? And you just admitted that advice is useless. So you would never ask anyone to take caution Youre not giving advice on safety, youre criticizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:56 AM
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………… The fact you assume men have never made unhinge disgusting profiles is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:53 AM
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Parents I already did a post in this. Thats the result of coddling so these guys listen to people who always compliment them. married people, women peers If women commonly say those things, I’ll be waiting for you guys to show me any proof of this. I have yet to see you guys produce it. various media figures List those names! it's genuinely surprising that you're even asking this question Because I guarantee none of you have proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:51 AM
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Women use sex to become victims So more victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:49 AM
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Most women arent compatible with misogynists nor do they want to give them a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:48 AM
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am asking why a large amount of women do not actually apply a standard they claim A lot of people are fake and stupid, why is that news to you? Do you hold men on a higher sexist standard? thats what men are confused So because theyre sexist manchildren. you are the one claiming this doesnt happen Copy and paste where I did that. men who complain or having issues with dating are obviously morally shitty If they’re what youre describing, 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:46 AM
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They don't understand why abusers are adored It’s 2026, people have been having this conversation for two decades, especially the last decade. They don’t want to understand, they want to be misogynists. They go 'I never beat or abused someone, yet I get less, why?' So like the entitled pricks that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:41 AM
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None of those things said be entitled, bitter misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:39 AM
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Men don't think they're owed "adoration" for not being abusive or manipulative and for contributing positively to society. But men do think they're owed not being summarily excluded and alienated from society. This can be hard for women to understand You didnt read my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:38 AM
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Have you ever considered the possibility that you bring out the worst in people? Good people dont excuses for their bad behavior. That the reason you find yourself surrounded by men who are "no good" might be that they can't afford to show you their good side, Bad guys say this. Not good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:03 AM
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The problem with people like her is they'll always shift the goal post to make sure to tell you,YOU are the problem. Today it's about you not being abusers, Tommorow it's about you being rapists, then it's about you searching for women like these and you inability to do so,the post will always move. Copy and paste where my post had anything to do with your rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:01 AM
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There's billions of women. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:56 AM
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So, a lot of men like this, who are inexperienced and don't understand the code people speak in, hear "if you had a good personality you'd have a girlfriend" WHO TOLD MEN THIS? Notice, that's confusion and frustration. Not entitlement. You can be confused and frustrated that you did 'everything you were supposed to' Who told them these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:55 AM
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Proving my point. They are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:52 AM
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So you have done nothing kind to counteract sexism. It's not "A rude kindness beats a polite cruelty every time." it's just being rude and not wanting to change. That's the type of shit "good guys" do and wonder why no one likes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:52 AM
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Tell this to blue pillars here especially blue pilled women. I dont care, focus on the post. they simply avoid who isn’t hot Then most men would be avoided. Like guys here keep showing, you guys want pretty privilege. the issue is that women like this are exponentially rare, They're rare to guys whose personality is shit. Also every relationship pretty much is transactional Women with high personality standards avoid men who think that way. I do find it funny that only when its a men asking “so …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:50 AM
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The bad man would see it as a reward, Exactly. That's what she is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:42 AM
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I don't care about your whataboutism. Why would you assume people would care about yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:41 AM
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What kindness are you bestowing upon people to counteract objectifying women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:39 AM
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How did that change what I said? Do you think most men do Whataboutism?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:31 AM
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Convenient that your definition of good includes "kowtows to shame the moment I'm uncomfy." .....So your definition of being a good person is being inconsiderate of others. Thus, proving my point of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:29 AM
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If we can't even use the word "reward" in a psychological context because it upsets your Women's Studies degree, Most men would hear "Hey, that sounds offensive" and respond with "Sorry, didn't mean to be. I wont do it again". An asshole gets offended when corrected. When I say something my LGBT friends think is offensive, I simply stop saying it. It doesn't matter if I didn't mean harm by it, I just stop saying it, because I want to be considerate of their feeling. Good people are considerate o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:24 AM
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Rapist and women beaters are getting girlfriends Most men dont think like this. They also dont want women who knowingly and gleefully date those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:20 AM
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no one would have said anything if women did not use "it's your personality, bro" every time a man complains about dating. And? You admitted yourself that women prioritize looks and excitement So you guys actually do want women who have low personality standards. You just dont like when it's said to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:19 AM
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It's not different women,. It's just that these women are fake and these guys never gravitate to women who have conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:18 AM
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but rather that when men who lack morals receive praise or female attention Similar to what someone else said: Why do you want those women? but many women claim that being moral is the bare minimum and a prerequisite for attraction. Why do you want women who are fickle and fake? So, when someone who doesn’t meet that standard still attracts interest, Who's claiming he's meeting that standard? They don’t believe they are owed anything; they’re simply asking why you’re attracted to someone doing l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:17 AM
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Here we go again. Men are trash Most men can handle criticism without crying victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:15 AM
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These men don't see you as a fuck trophy, either. Then when women say "stop talking about us rewarding guys, it's creepy and diverts accountability away from men" listen. Because part of being a good person is listening and fixing your behavior, even if it's a misunderstanding. They're just confused by the fact that men and women don't speak the same language. It's 2026. They better stop being confused very quickly. In the age of the internet where women have talked about this topic for a couple…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:14 AM
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They complain about all men, Why do you only know the women who hate men? I even know SA survivors who dont blame every man for their trauma. Then the men who wouldn't do what the bad men do are confused, say "I would never do that. Why would you go for a man that would?" As my post explains, not being an abuser make a criminal a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:11 AM
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But women have been constantly saying, “the way you talk and think about women makes you bad too”. Hence the rest of what I said in my post. Women don’t like to be seen as fuck trophies and most men don’t think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:02 AM
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Then stop describing stupid women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:33 PM
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When did acknowledge dumb women exist is femcel behavior? You literally cannot fathom your average girl For example, look ip the Danish Deception. The general consensus is not that Onyeka was an average girl. It’s that she’s stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:32 PM
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You deny reality Im still waiting for that research.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:30 PM
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So would you tell someone to walk through the hood with thousands of dollars If he gets robbed, the police should find the criminal and arrest him. That’s what I would say because I’m not a piece of shit victim blamer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:29 PM
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I was talking about the research that shows women I keep asking for the research that shows people are OK with victim blame me, and you have not produced anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:28 PM
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I asked because I wanted to know how far gone you are. There is the confession. You werent actually asking a question. You actually were trying to put your opinions into it. I don’t care for the projection, touch grass, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:27 PM
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Imagine if some hard-core Imagine talking to a guy who brings up CSA as a solution to inceldom because someone says incels don’t lower their standards enough to actyally be incels in. Imagine trying to take the guy seriously after he suggests that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:25 PM
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Much more women are dishonest about their standards than men. Do you hold men to such a high sexist regard? Glad thats a yes to my question. I have multiple examples of men being liars about their standard standards. Typically about how they have reasonable low standards but then get upset when you tell them what it looks like to actually have reasonable low standards . And I wouldn’t care about those women if the mentioned probability of encountering them while looking for good women wouldn’t b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:24 PM
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Multiple peope being the minority What makes up them the minority? Because not literally everyone you know will say a stupid person is stupid? They’ll just talk bad about the stupid person behind their back and politely not wanna be around the stupid person. Same thing happens to guys who are assholes. They’re not always told theyre assholes, people just silently and politely distance themselves from those guys. And conservative men will want conservative women I just showed a video of guy who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:21 PM
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Why do you assume every girl who’s fallen for a “bad boy” with obvious red flags You just described a stupid bitch. It’s just you guys aren’t willing to admit that because it makes you look bad for even wanting her. A lot of these girls are pretty, smart You guys only called them smart because you want to fuck them. typically come from decent households You guys are calling stupid women smart, I don’t trust that you guys know what a decent household looks like.. Stupid people exist in all social…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:08 PM
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I do not get this idea that women find men repulsive if they are not 'beautiful They want pretty privilege so all their other flaws can be ignored. They’re mad men are more willing to look past all the woman’s red flags for her looks and than women are for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:03 PM
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The women who are struggling always seem to get issues with men being "obsessed with sex". Most people in the west have this issue because it’s gross. Learn some self-control. Men who want sex early. Men who bring up sex. Not only do a lot of guys not make sure the women they pursue also want sex like he does, they suck at it. Men who make sexual comments. Men who make sexual jokes. They're jaded/annoyed/pissed off at men for putting the priority on sex So is the rest of Western society. Alot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:02 PM
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Not only, Then who cares? Fake people exist. You think men are never fake? Do you hold men to such a high sexist regard? regardless of what men do, No, being misogynistic about it matters. If you can find better women, why you so observed with the shitty ones? Makes it sound like you wanna fuck them. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:28 PM
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You literally did this two comments ago, So an idiot being called out for being an idiot. What are you not getting: Liberal woman want liberal man. If you're not liberal, why complain about not getting liberal women? Thats stupid. Such as? We just went through this. Also, the example I gave. Most of them do it once maybe twice and generally if it's a relative No one cares that stupid people are upset that multiple people call them stupid. Stop being stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:26 PM
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Those women are hard to avoid If you only know those types of women, thats a personal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:23 PM
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You wanting those women is YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:01 PM
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I'm not trying to insult you Lying isn't going to work. You wanted to ask a BS question about "how many struggling guys are actually terrible" and when you didn't like my answers, you basically tried to say "Touch grass". If you dont like this sub, you leave and touch grass instead of trying to feel morally superior when you're just being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:00 PM
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The left and bluepill Where? They say alot of men lie about being good men and they're assholes too. They follow there advice\ What advice? You guys lie about what you were told constantly. The Left's Marriage Problem: Fewer Liberals Marry That can be by choice, not because of struggle. The left has a marriage problem That's not a marriage problem. Liberals are less expected to marry. Your evidence of leftist incels are people who choose to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:58 PM
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Different from saying that someone is stupid for not dating whatever party they vote Which I will wait for you link where I said this. People complain about things all the time, Some of their complaints are stupid. Hence, they will be called out for being stupid. it's just human behavior, Calling out the stupid people is also human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:55 PM
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Imagine my shock how fact you went straight to insulting when you couldn't defend your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:54 PM
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I'm still waiting on that research about victim blaming being okay in Western society. This is a debate sub. Repeating how you think victim blaming is okay is debating in your eyes? You should be open to having your views change. Repeating how you think victim blaming is being open to having your views change?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:52 PM
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Considering how most women don’t engage in hookups or short-term relationships and that most men also want that, I would say yes, this should imply that women find kindness the most attractive trait. That makes no sense. So you guys lied to yourselves. And it’s hard not to bump into these women When you dont care about moral standards yourself, of course. however good and progressive they otherwise might be. The fact you guys describe fake women as "good" says alot about your own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:52 PM
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I am not the other men on this subreddit, Then stop talking like them. They also dont like being agreeable. Discussion with you is nonproductive and sheds no light. No, it shows you guys hate being agreeable and how you dont like me to group you up with the very guys you agree with. until you can address your tendency towards overgeneralization Stop looking like a duck, stop walking like a duck, stop quaking like a duck. Then you wont be accused of being a duck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:38 PM
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Worldwide, women of all sexual orientations said that kindness, supportiveness, intelligence, education, and confidence were very important traits in a long-term partner. That didn't say women get horny over morals. And being appalled by others’ willingness to include absolutely immoral people Then dont date those women. while pretending to be virtuous Stop wanting to fuck fake women. Up your own standards for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:36 PM
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The research IS out there. WHERE'S THE RESEARCH?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:34 PM
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Except no one is stupid If a guy keeps having unrealistic standards for dating and then cry about his dating struggles, he's no better than a toddler who keeps putting their hand on the hot stove and crying about it every time. they don't vote whatever party they vote If a conservative guy wants a liberal woman and then complaints liberal women want a liberal man, he is stupid. You just like changing the argument so the men dont sound as stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:33 PM
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Then there should be basically no liberal incels You guys cant even explain what they believe in. Also, you're changing the topic. The 5/10 leftist feminist men with the “right“ personality are finding themselves more and more single then the guys who practice “wrong think” that’s the argument. Give an example. Dont just claim shit,. give an example. If that is so common, you can find something for me to look at. its not even just pretty privilege that’s being discussed That is the only thing yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:30 PM
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Is that all you do? Just spam my comments with low effort replies? Then get upset when I remind you of a talking point YOU CREATED?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:27 PM
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Well, most people's experience is the majority of the time. Because I dont see any of you describing struggling men who aren't massive pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:26 PM
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Guys can plainly see women flock to legitimate bullies, Because they admire those bullies, especially when bullies blame their victims for being bullied.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:25 PM
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Are you serious right now? More serious than a man trying to sound like predators who blame their victims. When it's convenient to their arguments 'Like victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:24 PM
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The research IS out there. First, find the research that says Victim blaming is okay to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:23 PM
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And you guys just don’t want to admit that a large portion of women are simply not as attracted to moral values WHO TOLD YOU GUYS MORALS MADE PUSSY WET? I had to make this in big letters because this is such a reoccurring complaint, but none of you can actually explain who actually told you women get wet over morals. It’s easier to say that all of those men can’t find a partner because they are bad men If they were only nice to get their dicks wet, absolutely they were bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:16 PM
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Three paragraphs and YOU STILL couldnt say “Yes, being agreeable is a good thing”. Still, yes, the default behavior in modern Western society would be to be somewhat agreeable Because you hate the idea of being agreeable. That’s why you have to say a tiny bit of being agreeable is OK. In a low-trust society So more excuses why you want to be disagreeable. But it isn't AGAIN. I REST MY CASE. You guys despise the idea of being pleasant and then you wonder why you’re dating lives suck. Women don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:12 PM
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If they behave like the men in this sub, 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:10 PM

They struggle because even otherwise morally good women have unhealthy standards Men with good morals don’t think like this because they can find women with good morals. A guy that’s bitter and entitled thinks this way. Most men don’t struggle with dating because they’re bad people. You guys like to make this argument because you don’t like when people are actually saying “You are acting like an ass, so it’s no wonder why you’re not doing well with people”. and morality is often not the most att…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:08 PM
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Elliot Rogers wasn't just anti woke, he was completely unhinged Yeah. Thats how people feel about incels and MAGA. Just because Elliot took it as far as he did doesn’t mean there aren’t guys like Elliot around, it’s just they don’t get as much notoriety because they don’t do things that put them in the news. 2million swipe guy would be well in that bottom There’s a bunch of morbidly obese women too. I feel like you guys keep forgetting that when you talk about looks. Maybe y'all live in some ugl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:04 PM
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The people who insults others by calling them stupid No one cares that stupid people hate being called stupid. They could always stop being stupid. assumes they are assholes You just admitted that you think it’s justified to be assholes to people who give these people a reality check.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:02 PM
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You keep missing the nuance You could just say “Yes, being agreeable is a good thing” but you cant, because you dont believe it is. There are situations where being pleasant and agreeable is called for Like most of the time, but you guys don’t want to hear that because you think that’s weakness. Someone who is overly disagreeable Being disagreeable in itself is a bad thing. By its definition, it is a bad thing. The fact that you guys are trying to makw the case to be disagreeable, shows that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:48 PM
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Pointing out a phenomenon Pointing out that you think women want to be abused is still victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:43 PM
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And I gave you a reason as to why these people deserve to be treated poorly Who deserves poor treatment? The asshole, or the people who offended the asshole by giving him a reality check?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:43 PM

But is less likely to happen in real life than online. I mean, crime has gone down in the age of the Internet. With the exception of 2020 due to the pandemic restrictions. I'm also going to say something controversial, but there are many people that are subconsciously attracted to abusive partners and predators So you’d rather be leave that than to acknowledge a lot of people come from dysfunctional terrible environments? This doesn't change the fact that you're at a higher risk of ending with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:02 PM
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Irrelevant to either their conservatism …….not you ignoring the massive correlation between religiousness and conservatism. Funny, I'm married to a liberal women, and I dated liberal and conservative women before her. I just don't date leftist women So you dont date women passionate about their politics, as I said. And I highly doubt theyre Zoomers. So are you suggesting young liberal women are a monolith? Young Liberal Female Passionate about politics. I just named four different factors you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:58 PM
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I gave a reason. You just dont want to hear it. Getting upset that your standards criticized for being unrealistic is being a manchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:50 PM
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I said that there was a certain je na sais qoui about abusive men that women seem to be drawn to “Women are drawn to abusers” victim blaming. Men who blame abuse victims are not going to understand misogyny when they see it. and lots don't leave these situations despite all of the support networks and resources available to do so “Its your fault for not leaving” victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:48 PM
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You can have basically everything to offer Give an example. What you guys claim is having everything to offer is very surface level stuff without considering personality and compatibility. For what guys on here and on YouTube have shown, they think having a good job and good pictures is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:46 PM
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And people are entilted to treat others poorly if they are being treated poorly, Being criticized for having unrealistic standards while crying about being alone is not being treated poorly. That’s just a manchild upset at being criticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:45 PM
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There are lots of "conservatives" who don't support Trump, and didn't vote for him. If they’re not voting Democrat, it doesn’t matter. There are also lots of "conservatives" who practice pre-marital sex. They still go to church. These simple-minded arguments If that’s how you feel about liberal women, you can’t date liberal women. You can’t date liberal women who are passionate about their politics and not support their politics. And many conservatives oppose many specific social programs for de…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:42 PM
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How is that mysogynistic to believe? I don’t think somebody who implied abuse victims are stupid is going to understand anyways: Some men lead with their wallets So? some women lead with sex So? If you don't think sex is a major bargaining chip a lot of women Misogyny, reducing women to sex objects and fuck trophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:34 PM

I don't necessary think that people intend to lead with their looks. It's just that looks is the only thing that's obvious from a profile. Cool pictures don't substitute motion or a good personality. But the guys who could play the most about not doing well with women typically think good looks and good. Pictures are a substitute for compatibility in personality. You even see this problem in this sub. I also don't think you can bullshit chemistry. Chemistry and a bad character aren't mutually ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:30 PM
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This simply comes down to the fact there are more conservative men than conservative women Did you watch the videos? These guys aren’t saying they can’t find conservative women. They don’t want conservative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:26 PM
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Non sequitur. Then what you said is also irrelevant. Agreeableness being bad and excessive agreeableness being harmful Because if you actually thought being agreeable is fine, you would simply say “Guys should be agreeable”. Instead, you guys gotta try to find reasons to make it sound like a bad thing. Agreeableness isn't even the same as actual kindness See. You’re trying to find reasons to argue that being agreeable is a bad thing. Psychologically healthy people are going to adapt their behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:23 PM
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Abortion restrictions aren't the goal That was a massive goal for the pro-life movement. Like I said, you not knowing that shows you’re not that aware of America’s political landscape. This is the last time I’m going to talk about this, because I’m not talking to someone who can’t accept reality.. They want this so that fewer women get abortions. But post Dobbs more women are getting abortions You’re not even reading those statistics right. The places with legal abortions are getting more aborti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:11 PM
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And again, people can act like assholes to others while not to others depending on these people actions, if these people actions are included of things like advocating for dating people they are not attracted to Let me repeat myself, you’re not justified in being an asshole just because you don’t like hearing that the women you find attractive don’t want you and that if you actually want someone to be with you, you have to lower your standards. Men are not victims because their standards are stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:09 PM
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It's kinda hard to respond back if you take things out of context Says the person who kept insisting people hated struggling men for no reason. if these people actions are included of things like advocating for dating people they are not attracted to See how you completely ignored the bigotry, the misogyny, the victim complex, and, the sense of entitlement. No, you just got mad because people told them that their unrealistic expectations is why they’re single. Being an asshole because people tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:05 PM
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Is that really a win for the pro-life crowd? Most of them didn’t want it in their state and they wanted to make it harder for women to get abortions. Like I said, the fact you didn’t know that says you really arent big into politics and aren’t really paying attention to the political landscape..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:00 PM
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No, I'm not doing that. He did pick them So he’s responsible. He outright said he was going to appoint people to overturn Roe v. Wade. To act like that wasn’t his intentions nor his fault is utter denial from you. And the overall rate of abortions is still higher Not in the South. People have to spend more money and spend more time to get an abortion. I’m about to just leave this conversation soon. There's a difference between literal porn They still claimed FL just banned LGBT people. This conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:46 PM
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Did you read my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:42 PM
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Again, what do you mean by 'liberal'? If youre not voting democrat, liberals are gonna not want to date you. Changing my politics not because the other side has better argument Then don’t change if you don’t want to change. Changing my religion not because I genuinely believe Then don’t change if you don’t want to change. It’s like with bigot to end up with kids who either are gay or an interracial relationships, either the bigots choose to change or they accept they’re going to lose access to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:40 PM
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Yeah, that’s why misogynists tend to be anti-feminist and conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:32 PM
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You can act like asshole to some people without being one to others Being an asshole because you didn’t get what you want is not tolerated. That’s what you guys aren’t understanding. Being bitter is an internal emotional If you guys weren’t making it an external problem for others, no one would give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:31 PM
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No, he's got no control over the supreme court So you’re just going to pretend he didn’t pick most of the ones who overturned Roe v. Wade. And culturally, the pro-life crowd is losing at the moment Abortion bans are still implemented in the south. If you’re not going to be honest about the topic, I’m not going to entertain it. A small-l liberal as in a defender of liberty They’re going to think their liberal views are completely fine and should be normalized. When Florida tried to deal with this…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:25 PM
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And these guys are too stupid to understand how stupid their desires are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:37 PM
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The fact that you feel insulted that holding men accountable is something feminist do is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:36 PM
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Listen, if a guy doesn’t understand public services and high taxes, go hand-in-hand, this is not the post for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:36 PM
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you can be bitter without having to be an asshole. You still not being able to describe them says that there’s not actually a difference. Because if there was, you’ll be able to describe those men. But if it's understandable if some people act like assholes to others So they’re not being unfairly criticized for being single. You just don’t like that they’re being called out for being assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:34 PM
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I'm not sure they are necessarily more or less religious than "normal" guys though. No, I said they’re irreligious conservatives. That’s different. I also have a particular VERY FAR LEFT leaning friend on FB who CONSTANTLY posts unhinged shit (all political) who I doubt has had a date in years / forever. Well, do you know if he’s struggling today or that he simply chooses not to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:33 PM
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Could it be that you just consider everyone bigots? Thebirdman actually breaks down why he considers the men he criticizes bigots, but bigots usually don’t like being called out for their bigotry, so I don’t know if this is going to help: https://youtu.be/AuU7ZHIK_ZI?is=CjF4iOBHcq8-AY5U https://youtu.be/-bQo4uH6IoQ?is=p-OY5OP4wKf-WuTl This is an hour of criticizing a guy who outright says racist shit, like things that would actually be the literal definition of racism: https://youtu.be/ypNe1lmfA…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:31 PM
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A person absolutely can be a non-believer and still restrain his sexual behavior …….so basically what I said. A person absolutely can be a non-believer and still restrain his sexual behavior. If you’re not liberal, there will be an assumption you’re just a sexist MAGA. These both seem like lying and using people Because you guys don’t believe in either changing yourself or staying single. A lot of guys really underestimate how fucked up their beliefs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:57 AM
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The anti woke stuff made people REALLY famous at the start of the whole thing And now they’re just bigots who hate minorities. Just see YouTube https://youtube.com/@th3birdman?si=h3TY80zk-heor2-i https://youtu.be/y8wRpMv9PhU?is=3ZmzgvQ5pIhH8SzS https://youtube.com/@josebird?si=Vj5UrhJyt1oXxMzx Theyre growing in popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:54 AM
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I don't necessarily see self-identified right-wing men complain online about being single. Instead they tend complain about the perceived low quality of women a lot So struggling with dating. Why are single leftist men "single by choice" while single right wing men are supposedly all miserable and desperate for women? Being disproportionately LGBT. Unconventional ways of living. Yeah, just said the right wing men only fine with low quality women. So they’re struggling with dating. I'd say leftis…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:51 AM
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Could it just be that THESE women are outliers, as liberal activists? You mean the TYPE of women men pursue matters? The concept that men here dont want to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:47 AM
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Young people are now very embracing of not walking on egg shells out of fear every little thing can offend someone Which resulted in the anti-woke community to now be filled with actual bigots. That’s why there’s now a rise of anti-anti-woke content creators. The age of MAGA is ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:45 AM
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People also look down on bisexual women because they think they just hets looking for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:44 AM
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By that logic there are tons of "conservative" men who are pro women's equality, aren't anti-abortion That doesn’t work when they vote conservative, especially if they support Trump and/or live in the south. Trump is responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade and its mainly the south that banned abortion. Also, as I said before, there are other social and economic policies that conservatives promote that would make “being a hoe hard”. and low taxes That means less money for social programs. keeping…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:43 AM
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But some men just won't compromise their beliefs (whether going to the right or left) for a piece of tail. The problem is they bitch about a problem of their own making. That's probably why leftist men are more likely to be single than right-wing men. Single by choice doesn't count int this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:01 AM
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All I would say is "take extra caution" She got stabbed in public before her back. What caution should she have taken? In his defence, he's talking about taking personal responsibility for your own safety Calling it personal responsibility doesn't make it less victim blaming. You wouldn't walk through a high-risk area if you can avoid it Refer back to Iryna, the Ukrainian that got stabbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:58 AM
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when you ask how it’s even possible for the guy with the “right” beliefs and ”right” politics are still ending up incels. What do you mean go silent? They dont have the "right" beliefs, they just claim they do. If the problem actually isn't their personality or views, it's a combo of alot of things that go beyond looks. Remainder that we have more leftist incels then right wing ones, But do we hear their political views? Because victim blamers will claim they're not misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:14 AM
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ill again point out that the blue pill doesnt work You guys constantly lie about what you were told. What did the blue pill lie about and show me if it's such a popular belief. is beta buxxing. Imagine my shock, you guys dont like having boyfriend traits. Question what are "beta traits"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:12 AM
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In my experience "anti-woke" but otherwise left leaning guys e.g the "dirtbag left" tend to do fine with women. When you guys say that, are you imagine the average guy or attractive douchebags? Are they looking for short term or long term? What type of women are they going after? The actually conservative guys tend to be at least a little religious, even if they don't regularly go to church, Then they would be doing fine with conservative women, but the guys in the video dont want them despite t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:09 AM
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what you don’t seem to understand is that lacking too much in the looks You guys use that as an excuse to not work on yourselves. Most of you dont have pretty privilege and will never have it. even being misogynistic This is what I'm talking about, most of you will never be hot enough to convince women to tolerate misogyny. You guys think being a 5/10 will be enough, but that requires 8/10 looks to pull off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:00 AM
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Bitter = / = asshole You can't even describe the men who struggle that aren't incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:57 AM
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but if you're agreeing with most of the leftist ideas around industrial policy, central planning, progressive taxation, the welfare state, None of that will matter if they're against feminism and social policies. Also, no one really goes into what makes those struggling leftists liberal and if they dont have an issue with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:56 AM
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No one is saying "they're to blame if they get into XYZ situation". No, another guy in this thread does actually believe that and doesn't care if he sounds like predators who excuse their crimes. Instead, they wouldn't take such actions if they genuinely perceived the danger is that high. Victim blaming, especially when you bring up college and moving to a larger city for economic reasons. If I say "I'm terrified of being mugged every night I go for a walk", and yet I still go on a walk every ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:53 AM
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Surveys of self described "incels" show that many of them identify as left leaning (44%) while only 38% identify as right leaning. About half are visible minorities. When I said struggling with dating I wasnt just saying to mean incels. These guys can get SOME success, but not enough to where they're not miserable. Also, how far did the study go into identifying their political beliefs? As I said in the first paragraph, they're most likely "anti-woke". I'm sure being an anti-abortion activist in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:49 AM
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"It's better to be hated because I'm a bitter asshole to others than to just be realistic about my standards". "Why do people hate incels so much?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:47 AM
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My friend was a good guy, I wasnt talk about your friend, dont know who he is, so you're not gonna use him to guilt trip me. Moving on. A rape culture is a culture where rape is condoned and occasionally championed. Wow, suddenly you guys remember females ARE OPPRESSED when I remind you how it makes you look ignorant and privileged to deny it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:45 AM
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You are literally victim blaming men for being treated like pariahs. "It's not fair that you hate on guys for being awful people. It's oppressive that people's bad actions have consequences!" A man who thinks consequences makes him a victim is a man who's never going to be around women who value accountability. You are genuinely clueless about the male experience You dont respect men who explain when men cause their own problems. I am sorry, I guess I am a bigot for calling out a pedophile You d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:31 AM
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Tell me more about our "rape culture," You think nothing bad is going on in the Middle East? Interesting....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:27 AM
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which would actually suggest leftist men are more of incels than far right men, They're leftists in that they're liberals who hate women, so most liberal groups reject them and conservatives use them to be exploited for votes. Hence, you end up with irreligious conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:25 AM
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I want someone I can trust While idealizing hot guys with criminals records. The problem is that most modern women have no morals, When you dont actually value morals, you'll end up being around people with none. That's why it's laughable to claim someone values loyalty when they're obsessed with shallow people. overtly eschew personal accountability, Women who value personal accountability also expect that from, so men who like to blame everything on women aren't going to be around women who va…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:22 AM

Oh, how? Find me where Im bigoted. And I'm gonna its because I'm not tolerant of awful people like victim blamers. Its similar to how conservatives mock liberals for not being open minded but liberals never said they're open minded to the hateful close minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:17 AM
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I am saying that the personality you've demonstrated Most people hate bigots and aren't nice to bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:58 AM
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, because that's such a good idea Yes. As oppose to being bitter that you get nothing because you're being unrealistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:57 AM
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Being hot with a criminal record is enough Instead of simply not being a red flag, you guys envy Jeremy Meeks because he made his red flags not matter. You guys can't accept that Meeks is extremely rare and none of your will ever be that hot. That's the pattern IRL, Right, because you guys want bimbos offline too. That's the pattern IRL, I don't care about fucking as much as loyalty. So you want women overwhelmed with lust and think with their vaginas. So horny slutty bimbos.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:56 AM
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Hey Ms. Personality, This post is about religion and wanting a relationship. The fact you're trying implying using Personality as an insult is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:52 AM
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I read it, Copy and paste what I wrote, because you guys claim that show you didn't read. So humor me, what "qualifies" as realistic to you? See. Didn't read my post. In fact, attempt to summarize the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:50 AM
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"have low standards Thats part of being realistic. Imagine my shock, the guys who whine about women being picky are also picky as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:49 AM
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Everyone who uses a dating app is being superficial, Projection. That's why men dont do well on a=dating apps. They want to rely on looks and nothing else. women don't even think when they swipe 😂 That's the patten in this sub, guys wanting stupid fickle horny women. Bimbos.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:47 AM
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Where did I said that? When did that ever become a talking point? If you're just gonna lie, then there is not reason to continue interacting with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:46 AM
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Realistic in relation to what? What I have said in my post. I made a whole post about the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:45 AM
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I would argue that they’re non-religious conservatives because they already possess temperaments that make them unsuitable for relationships in the first place. Honestly... from what I have seen in real life that might be true. And with feminism being about holding men accountable, men who dont want to be held accountable clearly dont like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:44 AM
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The first thing you see on a dating profile is the picture so. Okay? That didn't change a thing I said. So you're trying to appeal to superficial women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:41 AM
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I’m a democrat and anti woke so I think it’s wrong to say is given a conservative When it comes to young people, they're not gonna stop being woke any time soon. They might not be as insane as they use to be, but they're not going back to being 90s democrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:40 AM
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I agree: if it seems like a stupid person would do some thing, then it would be a smart thing to not do that thing. Exactly. It's not hard. Boy: What do I do about not being burnt by a hot stove?>! Adults with normal IQ: Dont put your hand on the hot stove.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:44 PM
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Looks > everything else. When you have nothing else to offer. And the left at same time complains that strong, fit, tall masculine men are conservative. I want an example of this happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:42 PM
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MAGA bros are not trying to get with liberal women. Some are, as I have shown and been saying. I can totally believe 15% of young men aren't doing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:42 PM
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Or, they’re in an area with more conservative women to choose from Conservative women live in urban areas too. They still gonna be religious and expect commitment. The guys in the video didn't say they can't find conservative women. THEY DONT WANT conservative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:40 PM

So… what do you want guys to do about it? Be realistic and stop being stupid. Do you think being an irreligious liberal will do anything? Most irreligious people are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:59 PM
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And they're most likely religious and serious about commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:58 PM
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See how you didn't address what I said. I'm playing this game with you guys. If you feel that uncomfortable about men being held accountable, THAT'S ON YOU. I can hold women accountable just fine without playing these dumbass games,.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:33 PM
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How much of female erotic consumption is of the CNC violent variety? I think JustGeminiThings will be left to argue with you because I dont think I'll take this seriously. From what I have seen it is statistically significant, if not the majority of female fantasies. That has nothing to do with the conversation and it's just an excuse to victim blame. Guys, stop complaining about misandry and then give those bigots a reason to feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:31 PM
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A lot of young woman are lefty pseudo commies because its popular rn. Right now? Remember hippies? If you even talk to them for 5 min about politics it becomes clear its mostly asthetics to please their other friends who also virtue signal. These guys clearly aren't going after those types of women if they're struggling. Hardcore leftists and hardcore conservatives are both different sides of the same coin imo I dont think these guys are hardcore at all. I think they simply dont like Wokeism, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:27 PM
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I'm also talking about how bisexual females aren't taken seriously and are just considered het females with special snowflake syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:26 PM
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It took a while for me to learn that what women say they want, and what they actually want/reward are completely different things No. You guys like women who are fickle. This is a common pattern. You guys like women who are easy and dont have conviction in anything. Basically bimbos. I have never felt bad for a woman in my entire life that I wasn't related to/friends with/fucking Women with conviction typically dont want guys who think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:24 PM
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You guys love to pretend to be oppressed and victimized, I'm not playing your games. Take accountability for how you speak and treat people. If you go around being a bigot, it's no wonder you'll end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:10 PM
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"Neets are hated for no reason" Me: NEETs like shows that involve children. "I have better things to do than argue....."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:08 PM
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Fucking men apparently makes you lose value Women think this way too about men. However there are alot of concerns but they do come from stereotypes, like STDs and cheating, despite straight men being capable of this like bi men. says a lot more about how society sees men as corrupting or something. Absolutely. Society see men as villains, including the men who hate that stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:06 PM
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Men who are looking for sex will go after what’s easier, if liberal women are easier then men, regardless of political affiliation, will go after them. Which makes them being conservative extremely dumb. For long term relationships and marriages I think political affiliation could matter, The problem is alot of guys want to start with sex as soon as possible. Conservative women aren't doing that. Even the ones that are will expect him to go to church.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:04 PM
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No, it's biphobia. It's not just straight people who look down upon bisexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:47 PM
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No. Biphobia is a thing because people dont respect people who get fucked by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:47 PM
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NEETs are hated a lot by normies I gave you two examples as for why, but of course you're gonna ignore that. Can't acknowledge when people actually have a decent argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:43 PM
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does this man treat me as well and my female friends. That's a problem because these guys will swear they treat people well or that other people caused them to behave poorly. For example guys here dont see a problem with how this man behaved towards this woman. https://www.tiktok.com/@user140024777/video/7444655474001054998?lang=en But because the woman isn't cisgender, they think being rude towards her is justified because the producers "disrespected the guy" for putting her on the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:43 PM
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Refering to men who struggle with dating You dont even know any non-incels who are struggling with dating. That's why you cant tell me anything about them. America labeled incels a threat and have, presumably, a pedo and a rapist as a president. So because leaders are corrupt, since the dawn of time, society should allow MORE men to be threats to society? See, when "struggling men" have mindsets like that, it's no wonder they're told they're scum of the Earth and that's why they struggle. BTW, A…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:33 PM
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What's wrong with WHAT?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:30 PM
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Even just trying to survive is selfish. ............................ You REALLY dont like to acknowledge being selfish a personal problem. So rather then pointing fingers and blaming people for being selfish... so being like everyone else, like you. See. That's why you have to believe everyone is selfish. You are doing all these mental gymnastics to avoid facing the horrible truth You're calling people selfish for wanting to survive. Even my country's justice system is more lenient on lawbreaker…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:29 PM
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I hope this is a joke, because NEETs like anime like Jobless Reincarnation and Gushing Over Magical Girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:26 PM
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The whole "Conservative men trying to get with liberal women" thing happens because these men aren't religious and committal like conservative women are. In my opinion it's because the particular liberal women they want aren't super big on relationships and they're more sexual that conservative women are. They love women who are socially liberal, but can't handle they're politically liberal too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:05 PM
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You desire a status in society, I'm gonna assume you're just saying a fancy way of "No one wants to be a pariah", which isn't selfish. You also do stuff out of empathy which makes you feel bad for people which are suffering. That's not selfish, that's actually the opposite. You trying to justify being selfish while claiming you're noble is just not going to work. People can feel bad and not do anything, but obviously you're gonna define doing something and not doing something as both selfish so …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:56 PM
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"Nerdy" spaces tend to be much more male and more introverted too. So? Hookups are also more male oriented. Doesnt stop men from pursuing it. Being too agreeable is definitely something that counts against men See. You think being agreeable is a bad. A man can be friendly and supportive of his friends, family, and allies You wouldn't have a problem with being agreeable if you honestly believe that. You guys have such a bad reaction to being agreeable that it's you fucking hate the idea of being …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:51 PM
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Is that your counterargument? That's fine. Most men dont want to be the type of person agreeing with sex offenders, so there's nothing much to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:46 PM
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It's not uneducated Not knowing that crime happens everywhere and that most crime is usually concentrated in the slums shows a lack of education. As well as not understanding the important of COLLEGE. and no one cares if it is victim blaming. Is that supposed to be an argument or disprove anything I just said? Projection. People have lost their careers over victim blaming. One that comes to mind is Ceelo Green. I've already stated that victim blaming has a place. Tate brothers, Cosby, Diddy, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:45 PM
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Everyone is selfish. Projection. Feel free to delude yourself that you are not.Feel free to delude yourself that you are not. Imagine my shock, you had nothing to say to my direct response to you because I implied I stopped being a selfish child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:01 PM
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My original comment is about childhood abuse So why are you talking about women? Also, so you can talk about your childhood abuse, but you never once considered childhood abuse plays a role in women staying with abusers, even though that's one of the most documented reasons why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:58 PM
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Listen, you clearly dont have the cognitive empathy You agreed with a guy that outright victim blamed and you complimented what he wrote to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:57 PM
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they talk about normal topics So you have no idea if they're actually struggling. Because if they're not talking about their struggles, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THEY'RE STRUGGLING? You just dont like that people are calling out incels for being the terrible people they are and then pretend America isn't a big deal because they also have labelled incels a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:55 PM
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The Tate brothers weren't famous for their sense of entitlement. They told entitled men what they wanted to hear. Anyways, CSA is NOT a solution to inceldom and a guy who would bring up such a solution unprompted, just because a woman said men cant be incels if they're choosing not to have sex, is not someone to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:53 PM
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EVERY ARGUMENT YOURE MAKING HAS BEEN VICTIM BLAMING ME So now you think you’re the victim. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:02 PM
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Incels don't represent the whole population of struggling men as a whole How about you stop trying to divert the conversation let’s get back to this. You can’t even tell me what non-incel struggling men talk about. You don’t know because you have never talked to them. You’re just upset people call out incels for the terrible people they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:01 PM
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and doing anything whatsoever other than VICTIM BLAMING VICTIMS like fucking me. Because you keep showing you don’t actually want to understand abuse victims. You just like it when victim blamers agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:59 PM
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You keep mentioning research, WHAT RESEARCH????? I literally answered your question and you ignored it. You never was a curious person confused why women stay with abusers, as you have revealed in another reply, you agree with victim blamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:55 PM
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People who are selfish can’t fathom people who aren’t selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:49 PM
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That's the thing, they likely don't complain about dating So you don’t know if they’re lonely or not. They could be fine not dating. IFS found that 50% of single/sexless guys choose to be that way. Not everyone has the time to be 12 hours a day What does that have to do with the fact that you keep insisting people on hate on lonely guys for no reason, but you can’t even explain what lonely guys who aren’t incels do. You clearly don’t know them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:45 PM
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Furthermore, the resources and support available for women to leave these kinds relationships is outstanding - and yet so many stay. You’re agreeing with the guy who said that. the only answer I usually hear to this question is “YOU’RE A PIECE OF SHIT” You get those answers because you don’t do your own research and you agree with guys who victim blame. Most guys aren’t abusers and most guys aren’t misogynistic victim blamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:42 PM
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Thank you for a thoughtful and substantive response So when you say substantive, you mean what people agree with you. I don’t know many people who want to be around a person who thinks like that. the only answer I usually hear to this question is “YOU’RE A PIECE OF SHIT Imagine my shock, misogyny and victim blaming getting negative responses from people. I’ve never abused a woman That doesn’t excuse misogyny and victim blaming. you seem to want people to congratulate you and reward you for not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:38 PM
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It's doesn't disprove You didn’t say no to my questions nor did you explain what they’re complaining about. So they are sounding just like incels. If generalized pre assumption that if men struggle with dating it's because they are assholes You given me nothing to show that they are different from incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:31 PM
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I never experienced men idolise bad boys in real life See how quickly you changed your argument? Elliott Rogers made national news. You just choose to be ignorant on these types of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:29 PM
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That’s the problem. In their minds, the bar for being considered good is low and the bar for being considered bad is high. They’re upset because it’s the opposite in most people’s minds. That’s actually why nice guys are so angry. They want women who date assholes to look at them like saviors. Because women with higher personality standards don’t want them because they’re literally not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:27 PM
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asking a question is not victim blaming. You being unable to answer it Trauma, blackmail, and fear. All the things you could’ve learned if you actually cared to do research. But you don’t. I would talk more about your problems, but you don’t come off as somebody who needs to be set off, and that should tell you how people most likely perceive you in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:24 PM
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Youve been unwilling to have a civil substantive conversation You still didn’t respond to the things I said. Hypocrisy, ad hominem, and projection arent going to work on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:23 PM
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This is the problem. Assholes think they’re not assholes just because they’re not committing felonies. A man’s sense of entitlement wouldn’t get called out if they weren’t acting on. Elliott Rogers entitlement started before he committed the crime. It started with him thinking the world is unfair for not giving him a hot, blonde sorority girl and resenting society for not giving him what he wants. If he still respects you even after you turn him down, then he's not acting entitled. Men in this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:19 PM
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Victim blaming is not always a bad thing Epstein, Diddy, and Tate definitely agree. People need to be proactive about their own safety and security Epstein, Tate, and Diddy agree. They should be reminded of that if they seem to have never learned it Cosby agrees, Epstein agrees, the Tate brothers agree, and Diddy agrees wouldn't defend someone walking in the hood Robbers agree 100%. That is peak delusion Felons agree 100% that their victims are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:13 PM
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I'm 40 years old, never saw men idolise bad boys The reason why is that you go out your way to not look at it even when it became a big problem. Yes I actively chose to not let loud minority form my opinions about the whole gender. What does that have to do with what you said previously?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:34 PM
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Theyre not gonna tell you the truth. They’ll just claim thats all women. Its because those women are hot and/or very sexual. Also, these women have low personality standards, so they want a woman to praise them for being better than the bums, felons, drug users, drug dealers, and woman beaters she’s dated in the pastx
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:32 PM
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They understand that bad boys because did the exact opposite of what women said they wanted in men and got way better results Because those guys want women who are fake fickle and hot. what these guys want are bimbos, but they don’t want to admit that because it makes them rightfully look stupid and low class. For some, this pushes them to become assholes. So they weren’t good people whatsoever, they just wanted easy pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:18 PM
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Just because a woman raised them until legal age they feel entitled to more women sacrificing themselves for their existence. Thats the only way i would put all of men’s dating problems. Yes, I do think it’s because of coddling and Mommy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:16 PM
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Willfully ignorant, obsessed with preconceived notions and generalizations, unwilling to engage in any substance whatsoever You victim blame victims of abuse, including your own mother. When I explained why I claim youre victim blaming, you refuse to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:09 PM
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How many nice things you do because they feel nice? Rarely, but I grew out of that because I’m an adult. Everyone is selfish. Projection. I'm simply in a club of selfish people which make better company. See. Projection. That’s what I’m talking about in this post. Guys who are assholes but think they deserve some sort of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:08 PM
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“The research is out there” Okay, then SHARE IT, So you didn’t even try to do the research yourself. You didn’t even try to simply google why abuse victims stay. You didn’t even try to look up the correlation between child abuse, trauma, and getting into abusive relationship relationships. That is the kind of intellectual laziness I am talking about. It’s just intellectual laziness, excusing and justifying misogynist. “the research is out there” WHAT research?? More proof did any even try to loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:46 PM
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You’re not understanding my issue I think that everyone is selfish, most people simply rationalise their selfish decisions as moral ones That’s just projection. I don't, I realised that I am playing the noble role out of selfish reasons Then you’re not Noble.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:28 PM
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It's more that they don't find the answer. They probably go searching for it, or they ask a question in a place like here, and get told a bunch of nonsense - a lot from guys with a similar mindset. Exactly, they want to hear what they want to hear. They believe nonsense and they want to hear nonsense. The whole nice guy topic isn’t something only the manosphere talks about. Especially after Elliot Rogers murdered people, it has been even more discussed in the public eye. But like Elliott Rogers,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:13 PM
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You think you’re arguing against me, but you’re actually proving my point. A lot of guys want to be assholes, they simply don’t like the consequences of it. They’re upset that some guys don’t deal with the consequences as severely as they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:48 PM
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They don't understand the deeper reasons behind why women are attracted to "bad boys" They choose not to understand, and they choose to waste their time, focusing on this. they literally think women choose those guys because they treat women like shit, which seems insane to them. So they’re misogynists. They don’t hate assholes, they’re just as bad as he is. They just tricked themselves into believing they’re the good guys. because they've never been in a situation where a woman is that strongly…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:27 PM
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Who gives a fuck if they idolise that Eliot guy. You proved my point. You don’t know much about this topic because you choose to be ignorant on this topic. They are a bunch of people to lazy and cowardly to do something about being single Even when they try to do something about it, they still end up with anyone wanting to put up with their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:18 PM
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I assure you that I can be a bad boy, not only that, I can be a horrible ruthless person. And if I was to be idolised for that... well why wouldn't I? The thing is that I would be idolised by trashy men, and trasy women. I'd be the king of the trash heap. But decent people would look at me with contempt. And I rather be in the company of decent people with access to decent women. So you’re not an awful person because you simply don’t like the consequences of it. You think that makes you unique? …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:16 PM
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It seems like you have this idea that people are not acting as bad boys because they can't They dont give people a reason to put up their awfulness. That’s how we end up like incels. That’s how we end up with awful men like Elliott Rogers. But decent people would look at me with contempt. Most people look at incels with contempt. Incels just use that as an excuse to feel like victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:07 PM
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And yes, as a man I frankly do wonder why a woman would get herself into such a fucked up situation as enabling severe abuse of herself or her children The research is out there, but you don’t actually want to know the answer. You want to victim blame. Obviously I’m not excusing men, unstable men are fucking horrible, but for it to be so insanely common in patriarchal america for women to end up in these abuser / doormat dynamics, If you actually cared about the answer, you would actually do the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:57 AM
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There's often some seed of truth in the topics you post but you consistently interpret men's dating issues in the least generous way you can. That’s what happens when men want to be sad misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:48 AM
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You can do everything that women say they want and get literally no where with no real interest If this is a reoccurring problem, it’s about men thinking they’re doing what women want, but they’re really not. Another problem is body language. A lot of guys can’t hide the fact that they don’t actually want to do what women want them to do. So then women just give up on them because the bitterness is so obvious. It is disheartening to feel like ive been lied to, that i have spent my entire life tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:36 AM
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To reiterate, assholes who do well with women are not rare. There’s plenty of assholes that don’t. You guys just don’t care to acknowledge them. Because you guys idolize the ones who are doing well with women. Incels are a massive example of assholes not doing well with women. There’s such assholes multiple governments see them as a societal threat. They don't need to be rich or goodlooking celebrities. Not only do you choose not to acknowledge the assholes who aren’t doing well with women, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:32 AM
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Sex is a reward outside of committed relationships So one of the many reasons women don’t engage in hook up culture like men do. your ilk are the ones rewarding shit behavior Misogynistic belief mixed in with a lack of accountability. You guys will pursue the women you want regardless of how uncommon they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:29 AM
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Did you just bring up how women reward guys with sex? Plenty of women have explained how that’s misogynistic to believe, but it’s not like you’re going to listen anyway. I can do absolutely horrible things, I simply CHOSE not to Because you guys keep repeating the same bad arguments, like how sex is a reward to men, and how you guys aren’t going to listen to how misogynistic that belief actually is, showing you guys are terrible people too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:25 AM
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OP seems to think that all men can't be bad boys because... there is some invisible force preventing us from being like that. Weird that you’re arguing with the strawman you came in with, but you know have fun. I can do absolutely horrible things, I simply CHOSE not to There’s people who choose not to because it’s bad and there’s people who choose not to because they don’t like the consequences. Anyways, I don’t feel like getting in between the argument you’re having with the strawman, so there’…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:25 AM
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I’m speaking as an American: SA happens everywhere, even in places that are considered peaceful in comparison to others. If someone’s trying to get a high paying job, college is a necessity. The most common and easiest way for adults to make friends is through college. The danger in a city is more based on how big and dangerous their ghettos are. Technically, my city is dangerous because its large enough to have five different ghettos. So calling people dishonest and manipulative over those fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:23 AM
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It's not that they want to be asshole, women claim they don't like assholes Most of them dont. Why are you guys always around the ones that do? Sounds like guys want to be around women with low personality standards. it's women that give the impression that they choose based on moral character all the time Why are you guys always around fake women? Yeah, alot of women are fake and fickle. Seems weird guys never seem to be around women who are genuine. Based on the priorities, this sub has, I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:13 AM
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I disagree on the reason because when you see them talk about assholes, they talk about how being an asshole helps guys. They clearly think being an asshole is a sign of masculinity and dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:06 AM
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Most* not just (in your bullshit subjective opinion) "shallow dumb" ones. Guys here are simply bad judges of character. If a guy shows obvious signs of being a bad person, and she still chooses to be around him, she’s dumb and shallow. It’s just you guys don’t like to admit the women you’re around are low quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:05 AM
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I think if you press most women enough, they will admit that there is a certain je na sais qoui when it comes to a guy with a temper, some kind of narcissism and/or potential sadism, and/or a physically aggressive frame. I just scrolled down, and a guy just said this. This is the kind of behavior I’m talking about and what other women are also talking about. Guys here don’t give two fucks about the abuse. They want to victim blame and idolize abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:03 AM
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I just explained how they do it and it’s been a popular topic of discussion. At this point, that’s willful ignorance. Especially after guys like Elliot Rodgers got into the news.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:02 AM
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You're claiming something that OP is not stating So? That didnt change what I said. Nowhere did he state its about 'I don't get women. Did I say that? No, youre making an argument I never claim. Guys, please stop with the hypocrisy. It’s getting really annoying. internalizing the resulting pain and then blaming on the entire group. To me, women have a blind-spot for this Thanks for proving my point about the victim blaming. I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:01 AM
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Incels don't represent the whole population of struggling men as a whole Depends, are those struggling men sounding just like the incels? Making the same complaints? What complaints are these other struggling men making? You don't need to know people to point out certain behaviors that contradict assumptions And from the whole "Society lied to me" complaints, it came from guys intentionally misunderstanding what they were told by others. Also, what's an asshole anyways? What's your definition? L…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:23 AM
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Saying I'm "Victim blaming" has no bearing on the truth values of my claims and smacks of ad hominem "You see women migrate to dangerous cities from less dangerous cities for work", you're blaming women for putting themselves in danger. It's not ad hominem to criticize your argument. Please properly use that word. Yes, Radfems are more internally consistent, Like using examples of what men say and do to fuel their bigotry, like seeing men say "You see women migrate to dangerous cities from less …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:20 AM
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They see women they care about go after the most obviously bad men People who care about women are more concerned about THE ABUSE. Not "It's not fair I DONT GET WOMEN but abusers do!" and then victim blame abuse victims. And then they see these women they care about talk about how much men suck. Alot of the "good guys" do actually suck. Most of them dont even attempt to understand how abuse work and how it heavily correlated with childhood abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:13 AM
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The vast, vast majority of Women do not behave at all consistent with these beliefs: You see women migrate to dangerous cities from less dangerous cities for work (readily evident, but also see: 8) Imagine thinking you're gonna win an argument by victim blaming. -You see Women having sons, who, by the standards of survey answers and comments on social media like here, have a likelihood of being incomprehensibly evil. Guys going around victim blaming women isn't really proving those women wrong. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:07 AM
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.it's because those women aren't picking us. So stop the lying. It's not because women are evil and unfair. It's simply that shallow dumb women who have low personality standards aren't picking those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:01 AM
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it is like you cherry pick I didn't tell him to only focus on looks, he did. and there is 0 substance to back any of it up. I copy and pasted multiple paragraphs and he was solely focused on looks. That says alot about men's mindset, because this is a constant pattern of lack of substance. far MORE women have an easier Because you guys choose to make things harder, such as being picky and not listening to people when they tell you the problem, such as being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:59 AM
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If this is the attitude you bring to the table, Well, I dont tolerate bigotry, so they dont really end up in my dating pool for long. The above is true, but do you actually see how you come off? My friends love it when I dont tolerate bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:57 AM
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Many assholes hit it off well with women without being rich or even goodlooking Those women are no better than he is, but you guys dont pay enough attention to women to see that. They are not rare Imagine thinking someone of Chris Brown's talent and wealth aren't rare. The fuck?! I don't fantasize about being an asshole "Being an asshole can even help since it conveys assertiveness" that sentence says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:55 AM
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We're not? "Nice Guys Finish Last" Chad "No man wants to take care of Chad Jr" Misogynists victim blaming abuse victims. "Morals and personality doesn't matter at all! Women lied!" "All the good guys try hard to be good!" and something something about bad boys being "rewarded" with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:52 AM
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They dont represent anything Then why do other men keep using them as representations? One of the video was actually sent to me by a guy here and many other guys agreed with the video. If you cant make a point and engage I do. You guys just dont like I find examples of men fucking up the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:48 AM
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But most women fuck guys who aren't them. So why be obsessed with the evil meany bad boy felons?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:44 AM
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It really comes to down to consistency. Withhold always or not Women need to never date men who are insecure because those men are manchildren who are stuck acting like 10 year olds. but dont expect to withhold from one youre interested in Love this. "Men can just lie", "Men aren't concerned about situationships like women are" and as soon as women dont play those dumb games, men get an attitude. Men who are actually wanting a relationship dont have these issues. Men just looking to get their di…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:40 AM
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You guys are obsessed with looks and that's the problem. You guys are simply a bad option. Why would a woman want a guy that's shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:54 PM
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Most guys can't afford to be that shallow. You guys gotta stop relying on your pictures if you're not a 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:36 PM
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The way she describe Alexander's profile was boring as hell. Thinking someone's occupation makes them interesting is very telling. That's the problem. You guys lack substance. Most of you can't afford to be that shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:33 PM
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prudish cultures are going to tend to push a subset of men towards being deceptive about their intent; They were already doing that. That's why women advise women to be prudes. Alot of guys act like assholes when it comes to sex, so sleeping with them generally isn't worth it unless relationship is involved. some women want the lightness and freedom of a situationship Most dont. Just like most women dont orgasm during casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:25 PM
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Study on what? Guys here, redpillers, incels, etc always act like they only know assholes with girlfriends. So now that I showed how bad that looks, now you're in denial? Like I mentioned how there was an overlap being guys who struggle and being assholes thanks to how incels behave?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:22 PM
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Do they exist in enough numbers to make broad generalizations? That's the pattern every time women talk to them. They seem to only know women who want assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:37 PM
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What a statement to offer no substantiation for. You can talk to guys here how sex makes them feel wanted. They're using sex for validation, not because they want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:36 PM

No it’s not that women don’t want you it’s that women in America and the west are not worth it at all. The average guy doesn't think like that at all, so you weren't talking about the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:33 PM
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Sleeping together won't in itself cause long-term compatibility whether it happens after the first date or only after the first year, but a woman who decides her strategy is "'withholding sex'" is more likely to lose my interest; Congratulations on contradicting yourself. that's more like playing games than letting things develop naturally. I love that you are chill about situationships and lying to women until women say "I wont fuck men who dont show he wants a relationship with me".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:20 PM
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They themselves dont think personality is important. That's why they're only around women who want assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:18 PM
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Thinking no one takes the USA seriously is very telling. No one takes a world superpower seriously. I think I rest my case. This is just proof of wanting to be in denial. Also, half those countries are in the G7 and Japan also has an incel problem when it comes to SA, stalking, and liking creepy anime shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:15 PM
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Nope, just world fallacy is implying that dating is moral I said: Why should people tolerate you being an asshole to them. So morals now means incentives? It it's still the most important factor for most people, It is the most important factor. Most of you aren't exceptional enough for to attract shallow women .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:13 PM
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What is this circular logic btw? So now Just World Fallacy is asking "Why should people tolerate you being an asshole to them". And circular logic is "Personality is important in dating. Most of you aren't exceptional enough to be exceptions"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:06 PM
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Incels don't represent men who struggle with dating as a whole, See how quickly you changed the conversation because you're now forced to acknowledge the overlap? What countries declared incels as a threat? USA, Canada, UK, France, Netherlands, and New Zealand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:04 PM
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Being an actual asshole doesn't hurt men's dating success It does. You guys keep bringing up exceptions without being exceptional yourselves. Most guys are talented like Chris Brown.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:55 PM
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"if you struggle with dating it's because you are an asshole" You just proved that's what you want to believe. You ignored everything I wrote. Which is why many of these men bring successful assholes as a counter argument. But most guys have none of those traits. You guys want to be exceptions without being exceptional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:54 PM
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[Citation needed] Incel forums that talk about violent crimes in a positive way. There's a reason r/Incels is gone and most social media are intolerant of incel content. Also, multiple countries declaring inceldom a societal threat because their forums typically have violent ideologies that became real life tragedies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:51 PM
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It doesn't. It's just they never asked themselves: What reason do I give people to tolerate me being an asshole to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:49 PM
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Yes, just world fallacy is very common among people, Is that what we're calling "Give people a reason to put up with your bullshit"? Because I'm certain you guys dont have that answer. It's true but also irrelevant in this context Give people a reason to put up with your bullshit. know dating and attraction are amoral and not a meritocracy. Let's be honest now. You guys want to treat people like shit, but you give no reasons for people to tolerate that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:46 PM
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Men who only want something short term or more physical have an incentive to lie Easy solution. It's called "Withholding sex". That's why guys here get upset about it. Because women who are serious about wanting a relationship will.....pursue a relationship!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:39 PM
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women have infinite options I did a post on this. Let me copy and paste it here. Now onto the second video where A WOMAN understands the plight of men! She uses the interviewer’s pictures for Tinder to see what happens! https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw?is=gQNlhdd_6W1hDTKQ Day 1 - 5 matches, 1 was hot, 1 was lazy. Day 2 - 28 matches….proceeds to bitch about how ugly they are. Imagine my shock, men aren’t getting zero matches, they just don’t like what they’re getting. So they’re basically complaining…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:34 PM

Women aren't the ones claiming they're not picky, men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:31 PM
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If the general assumption is that the reason of men who struggle on dating it's because they are assholes Most men dont give people a reason to put up with a bad personality. Also, you guys intentionally misunderstand how people get to that conclusion. It's because there's a massive overlap between men who struggle with women and misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:30 PM
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a counter argument to the general assumption that if a man struggles with dating it's because they are assholes, That's true. Most guys dont give people a reason to put up with them being assholes. dating and attraction being moralized so to speak. Most of you dont have pretty privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:28 PM
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It's not about being an asshole; it's about being confident and assertive. One guy just said he thinks being an asshole helps men be assertive. They want to be assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:27 PM
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Guys here keep wanting to be exceptions when you're not exceptional. That why I keep saying "What are you offering shallow people to put up with your shit behavior?" and I dont get an answer. For example: Chris Brown is rich and talented. Are you rich and talented like Chris Brown? Because hot, rich or charismatic Most men are none of those things. That's what you guys aren't understanding. Being an asshole can even help since it conveys assertiveness This is what I'm talking about. You guys fan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:25 PM
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It is. You guys keep wanting to be exceptions when you're not exceptional. That why I keep saying "What are you offering shallow people to put up with your shit behavior?" and I dont get an answer. For example: Chris Brown is rich and talented. Are you rich and talented like Chris Brown?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:23 PM
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wishing women liked awkward guys They do. The akward guys still have to be decent people and not neckbeards. You seem to think awkward guys can't be predatory and violent. Have you not looked into serial killers and rapists? To Catch A Predator is filled with awkward guys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:21 PM
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What they resent is being talked down to and told they aren't successful bc they are misogynists or assholes No one‘s being constantly called a sexist asshole when they’re not being a sexist asshole. I just talked to a guy saying that women want to be abused and are attracted to abusers. Now can we agree that a sexist asshole? when they observe misogynists and assholes succeeding regularly also Because theyre unattractive broke assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:27 PM
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I think even as a lib dude tho that woman are going to far left to the point of alienating themselves to some extent. There was 10% more young women who voted for Kamala, and there was 10% more percent of young men who voted for Trump. This gender divide is exaggerated. The “man hate” normalization has been evidence something is wrong. Yeah, it’s 2026. At least in my country of America, we know bigotry is wrong. I think in a lot of “woman spaces” narcisstic woman take over and regular woman have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:25 PM
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It’s so obvious that men’s issues with assholes successfully dating is they wish they themselves could be assholes successful at dating.. Because they never look at guys who are decent people who are also a successful at dating. It’s just the assholes they’re hyper focusing on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:16 PM
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which is a legitimate concern, but it may also mean you're setting your sights on men who see you as an option but not the one who sparks something deep within themselves And online dating does away with that problem because I’m looking for a relationship and I’m gonna look at men who are also looking for a relationship. Just like the list that they’re wanting kids in the future just like I’m looking for kids in the future. Online dating only has convenience going for it You guys are really igno…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:15 PM
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In reality, most men just want 1 woman to marry. Most men dont envy abusers. Misogynists envy abusers,
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:45 PM
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I said theyre the role models you have to follow. You want to follow them. I even explained to you that Chris Brown is talented, but he never will rise to the level of fame and likablw he used to, but you don’t want to listen because you like the fact that Chris Brown is still popular despite being abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:34 PM
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Nope, I find them gross No, you don’t, because you admitted you find them to be role models.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:27 PM
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Because they’re terrible people. They want to go back to the good old days where men were basically allowed to do terrible things to women. But thanks to feminism, most men aren’t successful like they used to be. So now they’re upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:26 PM
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Bigots always think people who called them out are insufferable, because most westerners, especially Americans, have little tolerance for that type of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:25 PM
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People with victim complexes don’t like being called out, so that’s no surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:23 PM
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If women want abusers then they’re the role model to follow He just admitted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:21 PM
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If women want abusers The women YOU GUYS want. It simply they don’t want you. then they’re the role model to follow Thank you for admitting that that’s what this is all about. You guys find abusers to be admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:20 PM
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How is saying that "Baby boys and baby girls should have equal legal protection of their genital integrity" Are you gonna bring up that fathers, male doctors, and male clergymen are very okay with male circumcision? Of course you wont. You’ll just complain about people being concerned about FGM. Men die sooner, retire later, are given less empathy, get longer sentences for the same crimes, lower grades for the same work Oh, you actually mean male accountability is something you dont like. You’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:10 PM
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This is about guys who have the fantasy of victimizing others and upset they don’t get the opportunity to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:03 PM
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If women who pick abusers are low quality, and almost all women have dated an abuser Men who don’t admire abusers don’t talk like this. You guys keep showing that you’re terrible people too, you’re just mad you’re not successful like other terrible guys are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:02 PM
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The women I wanted almost all picked abusers and ended up as single moms. You guys like low quality women. That’s your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:57 PM
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If most men and women alike who use the online dating apps end up with predominantly negative experiences If they were doing well without online dating, they wouldn’t be using online dating. So the problem is clearly then. If most men and women alike who use the online dating apps end up with predominantly negative experiences ……………………….. I think ending up in a "situationship" is more a worry for women although some women prefer them, too. Notice how you completely ignore that massive problem wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:55 PM
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Sounds like being an abuser isn’t a turn off for women. Not for the ones you want. Like I said, you guys make it abundantly clear you want women who don’t mind that you’re abusive assholes to her. The problem is those women wouldn’t give you the chance ever. Ain’t no way you called Tate talented They’re able to scam a bunch of misogynists out of their money. That does take some talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:50 PM
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Chris Brown still has millions of women showing up his concerts How many of you are talented like he is? He still went to jail and he’s going to jail again. All of these guys have had more success than me Because theyre talented. The fact that you’re more focused on them being abusive and not the fact that they’re talented says a lot about the fact that you guys admire abusers. Is that you guys are angry? You can’t do it without completely ruining your lives and chances with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:47 PM
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I care a lot You cant even name any and you want on to talk about women. None of you actually care. Plus, since men are still expected to be providers Feminists have talked avout addressing toxic masculinity, but guys who whine also whine about “feminists saying being a man is bad”. They don’t want male expectations to go away, typically because they don’t like the new ones that will be put in its place, like being emotionally competent. since saying something controversial could destroy our rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:45 PM
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Women are taught that it is brave and socially progressive to fight for their issues Notice how you pivot to talk about women and not how little men are doing. That’s why male issues will never be addressed. Even you don’t care about male issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:40 PM
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Only losers would look at felons and say theyre thriving. Chris Brown’s career never truly recovered after beating up Rihanna, Jonathan Majors is black listed from Hollywood, OJ Simpson lived the rest of his life as a pariah. The Tate Brothers got investigated by multiple countries and are now being forced to go to the UK to be on trial. Only an idiot would look at that and be jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:38 PM
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So when even guys say guys are the problem? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAUX7pRF/ I mean, this guy isnt even coventionally attractive and think men should take accountability more: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAUXuuuH/ I simply see that there are disprivileges and oppressions that men suffer that society doesn't acknowledge Like what? Because I can most likely explain how little men care about those issues. Men have been told for more than 50 years how hard it is to be a woman Because women were act…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:36 PM
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Here’s the pattern I’ve seen from the “Women dont know how hard it is to be a man” crowd: Simply unlikable. They’re more right wing (anti-feminist) but they don’t have the qualities right wing women would want (commitment and religiousness). Manchild. Like having the emotional maturity of a toddler and the critical thinking skills of an 11 year old. They want people to worship them, but because there’s no reason to, they end up with nothing. Its “hard to be a man” because theyre not praised for …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:23 PM
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Many of us do want to be moral people, but also experience how women often care less about men being morally good than about being attractive, which takes a toll on our mental health Men who are actually morally good can find morally good women. Many fail at continuing being moral Men who are only moral for pussy were never moral to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:10 PM
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I think that Feminists actually respect men more than ‘pick me tradwives’ do Some men don’t want respect, they want dominance. Feminists demand more from you because they know their partner is capable of more They don’t want to do more. They want emotional intelligence A lot of men don’t want that. Feminism is actually the one wanting to share the weight of the world with you They don’t want equality, they want to be catered to. When they bring up male issues, they want you to pity them and vali…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:24 PM
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Says a woman lol If this is the type of attitude a guy brings on their dates, it’s no wonder they’re not doing well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:55 PM
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You guys clearly dont want to be moral people, so are you making people money? Otherwise, why would they put up with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:54 PM
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Which means money was more important for them than personality Are you making people money?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:27 PM
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They dont want help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:15 PM

Ignoring creeps in real life, doesn’t always work either. They can harass you and try to hump you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:59 PM

It doesn’t take a lot to scroll through people. It also shows you guys aren’t that desperate for matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:58 PM
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They’re not gonna think youre crude are weird for announcing youre hungry at a restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:56 PM
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Even when the pictures aren’t bad, they’re trying to rely just on their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:54 PM
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If you look like some men's dating profiling and they tell you their dating behavior, they're very picky and their profiles suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:08 PM
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I was listening to Scott Galloway who said men need 2000 swipes to get 5 coffees. Out of those 5 coffees, 4 will ghost you. The problem is when I saw guys' profiles and how they went about their matches, it was their fault. One guy got 290 matches, ignored 190 of them. Also, he set his age range between 18 to 25. He was 22, but if guys are REALLY upset about quantity, they would just expand their age range up to 10 years their senior. Like who wants a will they won't they relationship? That happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:06 PM
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Well, depend of wich kind of online dating. See, that's the problem no one really talks about. Whether or not you're using an app that dont match with you. I realized once I stopped using bumble and used apps that were big on profiles, my luck changed immensely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:01 PM

most men are better off passports bro maxing That indicates they are definitely the problem, not social media, not their environment. If women in your own country dont like you, that says alot, especially a Western country. They are definitely not average men if they suck with their peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:58 AM
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It's like a casino machine, it's configured in a certain way. When did real life be any better? Dating apps are configured to make money not to find your best partner. That's your job. You know how I got better success? I looked through other dating apps and found ones that matched with me. Women only like 10-20% of men in these apps. So? From what I have seen on these experiments guys so, they still act picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:56 AM

Also, passing on women doesn't mean that dating isn't terrible for men. It's a problem of their own making. If the complaint is getting dates, then ignoring that many women is stupid. Sure, you can call it "picky" Guys like to lie about their desperation and how they'll take anything. I think average people should be able to find other average people to date. Who are you to decide that? Men need to stop overestimating their value. If all his options are well below average, I'm not going to call …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:51 AM
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being likable doesn't mean shit when the context is realationship That mindset is precisely why people say men's dating problems is mostly self inflicted. Now how does that make sense to you outside of a patriarchal society? If guys are saying stuff like that on dates without understanding how bad it sounds, no wonder they struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:40 AM
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Ironically, OkCupid was a lot better before it tried to be more like Tinder. Now I think it’s basically a ghost town now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:25 AM
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When people meet organically they see many other cues besides looks and a short bio that's more akin to marketing than an actual description of the person As someone who has seen very dysfunctional relationships from the people around me, that’s very easy to bullshit chemistry and to be a horrible character. Online dating relies a lot on looks and the reality is that most people aren't good looking enough to lead with that Well, that’s where intelligence comes in. A person who leads with looks w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:08 AM
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You've made s bunch of posts defending monopolies that prey on human loneliness I am one who has personally met lonely guy offline and talked to them online, it’s usually a self-inflicted problem. Typically, they’re too lazy to socialize and/or they’re simply unlikable. It’s no wonder offline dating wasn’t working either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:01 AM
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I’m going to use a video. I watched as an example. It was about how hard dating is for men. It was a guy that’s wiped on 7000 women and he got 290 matches from it. Of those 290 matches, he ignored 191 matches. Now, if online dating was horrible and unfair to men, why would they ignore 2/3 of their matches? Even with other dating experiment, I was looking at, it usually turned out there was pickiness involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:59 AM
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Like a situationship. I think it’s easier to end up in one offline because people are trying to not push the issue. With online dating you can make it very clear you’re looking for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:30 AM
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Well, I looked into the issues guys had in online dating. It’s not impossible to find women on dating apps. It just guys have to stop being picky. Also, alot of guys cause their dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:29 AM
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I n the entire title of the post It’s a great thing I wrote more than just what was in that title. That means they shouldn’t tell it to people they cold approach either Then can society stop acting like fucking random strangers is cool and progressive? Because clearly people think that shit is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:52 PM
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You can be open about just/primarily wanting sex without being rude. “I’m looking for something casual,” or “I’m looking for friends with benefits,” are some ways to state it that are very clear but not rude. But people aren’t even doing that, especially when talking to a lot of guys in this sub and then wanna complain that some woman wasted his time. Or when women say “sex is an expression of love in a relationship” but they have been more than able to screw people and it meant absolutely nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:50 PM
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You're assuming that's a lie for everyone It’s just people who know how to actually be romantic know how to be romantic without leading everything up to sex. It's not about morality, If that was the case, there wouldn’t be any issue being upfront about what you want. But it seems people want to fuck strangers without admitting they want to fuck strangers. I very much do not just want to "get fucked" Do you actually want romance or are you renaming sex something else because you don’t want to adm…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:11 PM
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And lots of people are still having kids, that doesn’t mean there’s not a decrease.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:03 PM
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Gen Z still wants sex. You can still want something and want it less than other people. They just don’t have the same social and interpersonal skills What does that have to do with fucking? Because it still gets me to the thought that I don’t think people really like sex like they pretend to. There’s plenty of fun activities people can do that don’t require social skills to be that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:52 PM
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Imagine being an 18 year old moving out to college, and your first intro to sex with random people is Tinder. I'm also including guys who follow that red pill Tate type of thinking, fuckboys, pump and dump, narcissists, etc. Charm is overrated when it's not back by substance. Nice guys from a hobby group would have 0% of people who have been to prison before. You have no clue of knowing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:47 AM
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Less sex and a falling birth rate, which mean less people to handle the expenses of the elderly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:30 AM
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Sex is a normal, healthy, natural part of life. Then why does it seem to be the center of a fuck ton of problems? Intimacy is an incredibly important aspect of psychological well being, Problem is people have to actually WANT intimacy. Not pretend they do. Our current generation's biggest problem is alienation and isolation, From my experience, alot of it is self inflicted. People are 'weird' about sex because the cultural language and practices that once handled this aspect of life has been dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:29 AM
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but it feels like sex has become wrapped up in an important battleground for gender rights and agency It has always been that way. There's a reason the places with the most kids are poor, religious, and patriarchal. I feel like the way it’s treated in same gender relationships is probably a healthier representation of how society “ should” view it. I wouldn't go that far considering some of the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:23 AM
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Big things like these come from multiple reasons, not just one. Also, even when going outside, I dont think there's that much of an interest either, because like I said, Gen Z likes to sort out their problems the more healthy way rather than drinking and fucking. Idk, Gen Z is overall the least weird about sex compared to any other generation Because theyre not drinking and fucking their problems away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:20 AM
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Just his. No foreplay. No wanting to learn how to excite me. No stimulation. Just. Let me shove it in. A guy can flirt with you and still have all of those problems. Because if sex isnt the point then sex doesnt sound appealling whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:47 PM
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It honestly doesnt sound like women like sex as much as they claim, not even sex positive women seem to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:43 PM
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Why would I want someone who was aware of basic politeness and didn't tell people they'd met once how much they wanted to have sex with them? I do wonder. As I said in my last sentence of the post: I’m confused, why would you guys want someone who pretends they’re not mainly trying to fuck on a date? Someone who pretends that they’re looking for something other than sex, when clearly sex is the main thing they want isn’t that a stupid waste of everyone’s time? And I personally don't want someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:35 PM
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It’s not for the people who want to have mutual sex with each other. But it's about the discussion around it and the complaint of evil bible thumpers being people feel ashamed of sex, as I was explaining in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:08 PM
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Not being open about your sexual desires to strangers Where did I make this argument? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:02 PM
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No, I mean even when people try to strip religion fervor of shaming sex out of society, we still have the "sex positive" community being weirdos about it. We still have guys not respecting their sex partners, we still have women pretending they're not horny, and we still have people using sex as therapy. Ironically, the incels who follow people like Tate are conservatives but they're not the religious types, which leaves no one liking them. There's so many people who simply dont want to fuck for…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:56 PM
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However I’m not going to announce it to society or randomly at social events and meeting people. Right.... would you go around announcing to random people you're looking for romance, passion, etc? Otherwise, wouldn't that be given? Sexual compatibility is very important to me. Therefore I use to bring up sex early in the dating stage even if I’m not planning to have sex with them early. There are certain sexual behaviors that are dealbreakers for me. It’s best to get that out the way. Right, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:43 PM
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Honestly, I think that's what made Gen Z less enthused about sex than previous generations. Because it's realize alot/most people are weirdos about sex. They dont want to simply have fun, they want to use it as a way to improperly deal with their emotional baggage that they wont get therapy/medication for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:40 PM
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your entire post is about being forward and open about your desires i think. And you guys seem to not being able to handle it. Sex positivity clearly isn't real if you guys are ashamed about being honest. Summarize your point in say 3 sentences, You came onto my post to comment. You summarize my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:38 PM
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Just like there's less crass ways to ask for more compensation That's not the same thing as lying or concealing. Like I said in my post: “Sex isnt the only thing I want” So how long are you willing to wait before having? If someone wasn’t that good at first, would you be OK teaching them to get better? And if someone didnt make sex their priority outside of like once a month, you’d be fine with it? I never understood when people say that because you’re not going to care about a relationship if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:36 PM
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You are intentionally being obtuse Hypocrite, because why was this the first thing in your mind? So if you go to the bar looking for a hookup the first thing you will say to a very attractive stranger that comes up to you is "please fuck my brains out and let me have your babies"? Elaborate. Why was this even in your head to begin? What in my post triggered this thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:30 PM
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It seems more like most "sex positive" people dont want to ask for that and want to just say some bullshit like "I'm super passionate and romantic".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:26 PM
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When you go into a job interview do you lead with something like "“I wanna get paid, I wanna get paid good, I wanna get paid often, I wanna get paid NOW”? I know I don't. Ah, so you guys try lying about being honest sounds icky. Yeah, it's not just religious people who are weird about sex. It's not wonder less Gen Z are fucking. Sex isn't the only thing or the most important thing in a relationship, You guys have to actually ACT like it's not. That's been my problem with this sub when people say…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:24 PM
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They don’t need to feel ashamed of their natural desires, but they do need to keep it to themselves But how was lying about being such a “romantic” any better? And how they “need to feel desired” better?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:07 PM
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I’m confused, why would you guys want someone who pretends they’re not mainly trying to fuck on a date? Someone who pretends that they’re looking for something other than sex, when clearly sex is the main thing they want isn’t that a stupid waste of everyone’s time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:05 PM
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So if you go to the bar looking for a hookup the first thing you will say to a very attractive stranger that comes up to you is "please fuck my brains out and let me have your babies"? It says a lot that sex is only appealing when we all have to bullshit and lie. I think sexual compatibility is important for a long term relationship, But you think honesty is weird? Honestly, I think this is a major reason Gen Z isnt having as much sex. It’s not just the bible thumpers that are weird about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:00 PM
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Why would you want someone who pretends they’re sensual and romantic when they’re just super horny? If anything, that makes sex less appealing, because people want to play stupid games.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:55 PM
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This is like when you guys say "Sex is necessary but insufficient", it's very telling you guys can't name the other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:42 AM
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it's much safer to do that in modern society if men don't want any backlash Because the general consensus is that they're a joke and a scam. You guys keep forgetting that 50% of the population is male. Still mostly about looks, though. Thanks for proving my point. The belief is basically "If I had pretty privilege, this wouldn't be a problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:36 AM
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That's assuming the problem is social skills without showing that it is. I have literally shown you guys men getting rejected based on their behavior and profile, but you’ll still make it about looks. Red pill isn't notorious for that, either, since that's where many men go specifically And most guys think theyre a joke and a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:49 PM
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Maybe you should answer that question about your response to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:22 PM
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. You're just deciding, arbitrarily, that ignoring 65% of them is not desperate enough. Rejecting most of your options without giving them a chance means youre not desperate. I'm sure women ignore 95% of their matches So you guys arent different from women. You just wish you had more options. I'm sure women ignore 95% of their matches Because there’s more men than women on the able. But also, this is just one random person and it's a woman's perspective Thanks for showing you didnt actually read…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:00 PM
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I'm not picky when you compare my match rate to women The vast majority of dating apps users are males. Youre not less picky. You just have less options. You're using an arbitrary benchmark for pickiness Im not. You just didnt read the post. instead of doing a like-for-like comparison “ First of all, if men were desperate, a 47% like rate is abysmal. Real desperation is 80% like rate. Also, his age range was 18 to 25. How interesting he wouldnt go up to 18 - 30, despite the fact thats within 10 …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:58 PM
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If we measure pickiness by number of matches Just say youre mad you have less matches. Stop with this lying. Youre picky too. You just mad you have less options to pick through, I wanted to point out that there's no point including outliers Then why are guys here always using outliers as proof how hard guys have it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:18 PM
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Yeah no, you have no argument here. Not after we've all seen Nazi child molester Chad's performance on the apps. There’s nothing more to say about men who look at a monster and only feel envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:42 AM
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Why not just admit you want a fuckbuddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:19 AM
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Friendship can teach you how to talk, listen, and enjoy another person’s company Plenty of guys are failing at that and then pretend its attraction thats the problem. The redpill and incels, for example, are notorious for failing at these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:17 AM
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Why do you attempt to give dating advice to men when you have never even pretended for a second that you have their best interests in mind? Its always funny when the redpill keep clamoring for people to pay attention to them and then get upset when people DO pay attention to them. If the manosphere just STFU no one would care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:15 AM
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It's not literal bullying from school The fact YOU still compared it to that is a problem. That shows a lack of maturity. They always required a filtered, basic and dry treatment. And then, like you, they complain about men not having fun on dates? You guys have shit social skills and only know how to be vulgar bullies. This has nothing to do with what I said. Spending a decade in therapy as you suggest No one suggests therapy to people who are acting stable. If you want to keep being unstable, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:14 AM
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to the point that dating is almost entirely irrelevant to talk about To a NORMAL person, yes. Problem is their priorities are not straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:08 AM
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Doesn't matter whether or not women are claiming they're desperate This post is made because guys lie to themselves. Sure, a lot of men are envious of women So you guys lie. You’re just mad you have less options than women. Thats all. Guys will feel they're not picky until they're compared against women's dating experience; then they know they're not picky There’s no substantial difference between their pickiness, as I have explained in my post. But also, you're getting hung up on an outlier of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:55 AM
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In terms of attraction If thats all you care about. Most people want more than someone finding them hot,
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:51 AM
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Interacting with a woman who may become a romantic prospect is qualitatively different from my interactions with friends, and this continues into the relationship So y’all flirt, fuck, and nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:38 PM
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This isn't just men, it's everybody No, its not everybody. Its miserable people, People befriend people when it makes sense to befriend them contextually No, most people befriend who they like. As another person said, I might have been describing a sociopath. If someone believes they're not getting anything out of the relationship Very very very few people will believe having insufferable unlikable friends is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:36 PM
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Nice guys lie to themselves, so they’ll always be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:29 PM
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We came to a conclusion that dating isn't simply "hanging out and having fun" Its just most people know how to be fun without being vulgar bullies, Like…..adults want to date ADULTS. Yeah let me just spend 15 years in therapy while Chad hooks up with girls Already admitting you dont want to break from gender norms. There’s no point in complaining about gender norms you’re willing to abide by.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:26 PM
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Men often socialize differently than women, but “different” isn’t the same as “deficient.” If a guy is struggling how to simply talk to women and how to be likable, it is a deficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:53 PM
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For a lot of people first date is getting to know a guy AND see if there is this spark there, because there should be a reason to continue dating. The first date being fun is typically the reason to continue dating. Because scammers, cheaters, fuckboys, manipulators are all extremely good at creating that spark. I think the interest of sex and romance should be there, but the main focus of a first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:51 PM
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How is being too platonic detrimental? I’m getting skeptical. It was because he was being too platonic because you’re not really explaining what you did on the dates. It’s because often women want to be seduced, flirted with and wooed romantically Im just gonna take it as he goes for women who basically want to speedrun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:49 PM
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No. You are mixing something seriously up here. In my experience this is how women act Except I asked men here if they would want to be around awful people and the majority of the answers was “Yes, if theyre useful”. That's what women do No. Women frequently see and talk to their friends. It can get very deep, emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:43 PM
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hanging out with a friend is when you can crack inappropriate jokes, bully each other, According to you that’s how you started off your friendships. I cant recall that being a normal female experience. Men are raised like this As an adult, its your responsibility to unlearn, especially in a western societies that encourages breaking gender norms,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:33 PM
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He doesn’t have issues attracting women but being too platonic is often detrimental But HOW? And what TYPE of women is he into?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:13 PM
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yeah? That would be a horrible idea for a woman to do because she’ll be a pariah quickly if she does not gauge her audience first. how are they choosing that? Not wanting to be emotionally regulated, getting help, working on social skills, finding any criticism against how society teaches as a war on men in general, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:12 PM
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When to ask questions, how to ask questions, when to flirt, and to read body language. Many men report that dating feels like an interview, Well, how did they meet their friends? Because I suspect doing an activity rather than talking to them. so ladies need to learn to relax and have fun too Questions like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:57 AM
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dating is nonchalant bs mindgames and pretending you're just "seeing where the things go" like you aren't actually interested in your partner. How are you defining “interested”? hanging out with a friend is when you can crack inappropriate jokes, bully each other, take it well and actually have fun But did you START OFF doing that? not because guys are dysfunctional or socially inept More like because young men, atleast in the West, are choosing to be that way and a mix of being more likely to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:56 AM
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I had a friend who’s a pretty likable guy, charismatic and makes friends easily, but he struggled dating. We went out on a double date once and I could see the issue. He was too platonic and his date felt more like kicking it with a friend. The woman texted him after the date saying that she’s feels like more of a friend so they should be friends. Apparently tats how most of his date go. The other factors are what he’s doing on the date and what’s his type. If he likes who expect something quick…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:46 AM
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"Okay but not everyone goes into a first date with the intention of getting fucked at the end of it." - that doesn't matter. You still need to appear sexy, appear interesting in something more than just chatting like with a colleague. It does, especially for someone who takes vetting seriously, doesnt want their judgement clouded, if she’s strictly looking for something long term, etc. For alot of people, a first date is getting to know a guy, not figuring if theyre gonna feel like Jack and Rose…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:38 AM
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the women who have no friends can’t make friends Theyre not getting a man easily. There’s a reason the women most popular with guys are also extraverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:33 AM
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Guy who date need to actually appear sexy, flirt and create sexual tension, Okay but not everyone goes into a first date with the intention of getting fucked at the end of it. Without that it's easy to be discarded with "there is no spark" comment. Spark doesnt have to automatically mean sexual tension. Also, Im talking about the “He cant hold a conversation” type of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:15 AM
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many women also don’t have friendships Not as much as guys with no friends. are very anti social, introverted, but they get a man pretty easy Theyre choosing not to have friends. Being unable and not choosing are quite different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:01 AM
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But again, how are they defining friends? And what are the problems theyre having?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:58 AM
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Lilith we’ve been through this many are upset that being an asshole or not is irrelevant in the first place What the Tate brothers are going through should have already proved to you thats a stupid way of thinking,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:52 AM
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Feels like your strawmaning the post YOU SAID “ Acknowledging that this is how the world works is.tne redpill btw, that's why redpill basically says morals are irrelevant” and thats dumb, because the Tate bros just got snatched from Florida to be on trial in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:51 AM
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which implies being in a location more conducive to meeting women offline Being in a bad location can't be a reason why7 a guy is struggling with dating because the internet eliminates location as a barrier. There are so many factors that can affect a man's experience with the online dating apps. Sometimes there's nothing the man is doing "wrong" other than being in a location with a small, low-quality dating pool, or they may currently live in an area that's a mismatch for their personality and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:15 AM
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If any match is good enough for men to not be considered desperate and we apply the same definition of desperate to women It's not women claiming they're desperate, though. Then, if you compare how easy it is to get a match for a woman So men aren't actually struggling with dating you guys are just jealous of women? You're comparing a man's dating experience against your own measure of "ease"; Thank you for that "yes". I'm not interested in how picky a man is depending on some arbitrary baseline…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:12 AM
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Not most, but many do, especially in the manosphere. They will also lie to themselves. I just want a nice average women with a low n count. They do…. but she has to let him fuck her immediately.. Someone who doesn't have any plastic surgery Thats not a lie. Plastic surgery can look bad. and doesnt wear much makeup More like they can’t tell when someone’s wearing makeup. Who men actually give all their attention: The hot popular girls who are thin and aged 18-21 Popular doesn’t automatically mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:30 PM
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Some guys will fuck anything, though. That’s being picky too because most women want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:16 PM
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If the rule of thumb is the quality of women on online dating apps is lower on average than offline I have never said that, nor do I believe that. then offline is better Also, you just destroyed your whole point about location. There is a level of intrinsic satisfaction to interacting with real people offline that interacting So you bring up location was irrelevant. You just prefer off-line dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:15 PM
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you do understand that women have much, much higher standards on partners But there has to actually be a noticeable difference. In the latest post I did, I showed guys were still picky, even when they complained about having no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:04 PM
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I actually did a whole post on this subject. Stacy is what the brainrot call 10/10 good looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:45 PM
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Right, they chose that struggle. They're not a victim. That is the path they have chosen for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:21 PM
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Right, they chose that struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:20 PM
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When its something like a hobby women hardly do, yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:12 PM
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A lot of men complain about quality too. Right, so the complaints about women's complaints are stupid and hypocritical. Men are picky too, men care about quality too. The problem isn't that they have "zero matches", it's that they dont like their matches, same as women. Men aren't more "reasonable" than women, they're not more "desperate" than women. They simply have less options. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:08 PM
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Acknowledging that this is how the world works is.tne redpill btw, that's why redpill basically says morals are irrelevant So you just revealed that the redpill is stupid. That's how you'll end up like the Tate brothers having three different countries lining up to jail you for decades. As soon as the Tate brothers got to Florida, the governor worked his ass off to find a reason to kick them out. That's what the route you want to go? again the attraction is the door Baseline attraction and prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:06 PM
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Having standards doesn't mean someone isn't struggling. The struggle is a choice. Only if the difficulty is entirely self-created. As I have shown in my post. Women aren't expected to pursue every man who likes them But women are not complaining about quantity. They’re complaining about quality. Guys here complain about quantity and hate when women complain about quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:44 PM
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Their sad that what they been told works Most of you arent exceptional enough to be rulebreakers. Get over it, the men have been gaslit on there about personality only mattering Most of you aren’t attractive enough for your personality to not matter. Get over it. Its also that on top of this many men with the personality That’s for other people to decide. Not for him to decide. It doesn’t matter if he says he’s a good person, other people have to believe he’s a good person. it's the idea that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:39 PM
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You guys are honestly upset that you you have to suffer massive consequences for being an asshole, like everyone else. I don’t know what makes you guys think that is sympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:32 PM
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in the first place also being upset that other have just been fortunate enough to pull a better lot in life is understandable. You guys are honestly upset that you you have to suffer massive consequences for being an asshole, like everyone else. I don’t know what makes you guys think that is sympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:25 PM
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remember the other side claims that the expections do not exist Most of you are still not exceptional. So oh well, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:20 PM
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It’s really that they’re mad that there are exceptions to the rules, it’s just they’re not exceptional. They’re mad at their men who don’t need good moral character to get women, but those women expect characteristics that those men don’t possess either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:59 PM
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It’s not really putting women on a pedestal, it’s about seeing people from a utility perspective. They only care if someone is of use to them. Also, it’s being an emotional toddler. The other option is that we're all liars who promised good prizes women but in reality it's damaged goods Toddlers want reality to bend to their will. If people aren’t doing what the toddler wants, the toddler feels victimized. They think that women should choose men fairly Honestly, I would argue the dating market i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:58 PM
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And you guys think that’s worse than going the Epstein route? Is that where your morals are?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:43 PM
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Sometimes there's nothing the man is doing "wrong" Thing is guys who are doing wrong will always claim this. Sometimes there's nothing the man is doing "wrong" other than being in a location with a small, low-quality dating pool The point of the internet is to expand your search for people like you. if the local area is that suffocating, then that’s their sign to move. The reality is online dating apps are just a garbage product for most men If you’re going to use location as an excuse, how is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:26 PM
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Because you were trying to talk shit and I'm clarifying that "whataboutism" was appropriate when the post is a counterargument. Since you thought the original argument was flimsy, it render your counter to my counter argument useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:46 PM
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Adaptation is important, but it also matters how we talk about people who are struggling. Telling someone they are failing because they haven’t “adapted enough” can ignore factors like mental health, trauma, social anxiety, disability, I had an ex with these problems, and he still did nothing to fix these problems despite the fact having the job to fund his mental health journey. Meanwhile, I have met younger adults with less money, using free resources to work on their mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:26 PM
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The fact you’re having to ask everyone about this, speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:24 PM
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So you're choosing to dismiss and ignore women as well So you’re going to oversimplify my argument because you can’t argue against the reasons why I said she’s being an idiot. Got it. You're also using niceguy logic. Being picky lowers match quality Since you don’t know what quantity is, we can end this discussion right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:21 PM
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It proves he had to make an absurd number of attempts to get one result. Yes, because of his pickiness and his absurd standards. Dating difficulty isn’t measured by whether someone is willing to accept literally anybody. You choosing the difficulty makes your complaining irrelevant The 16,000-swipe example has the same problem. A 3% match rate is still a 3% match rate If he was actually desperate, he would’ve swiped on 80% of the people he saw on Tinder and he wouldn’t have ignored 191 women. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:21 PM

This is you showing that men are crazy for using YouTube videos as sources? Because it didn’t say what they think it says, but since you rejected the sources entirely, there’s no further reason to have discussions on the issue. You saying they can basically be used as sources as you recognize it’s not a formal source? But you rejected all of them on the count that they’re not formal sources, since you basically rejected the arguments I was arguing against, there’s no reason to further discuss th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:14 PM

So your point was that it doesn’t prove desperation? And you basically said that the dating experiment I was told to look at don’t prove desperation either, so the debate ends there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:12 PM

Not once have you said that until I said they weren’t good sources They were given to me as good sources of showing me how hard dating is for men. Since you rejected the evidence that it shows that dating is hard for men, then there’s no point in continuing the conversation. Because you already rejected the original argument I was countering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:10 PM

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