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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:44 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:58 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 12:39 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:54 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 03:02 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:25 AM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 02:50 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:07 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:17 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:04 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 02:17 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:27 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 12:10 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:13 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:39 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:38 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:15 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:50 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:27 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:27 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:54 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 12:37 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:35 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:09 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:27 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:48 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:41 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:05 PM
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ScienceLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:26 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 03:53 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:00 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:29 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:23 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:37 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 04:46 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:11 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:58 AM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:10 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:15 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:48 PM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:43 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:46 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:42 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:28 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 11:19 AM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:23 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:29 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:36 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:02 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:27 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 01:02 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:39 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:07 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:43 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:33 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:46 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:08 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:51 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:43 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 12:27 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:01 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 03:10 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:04 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:51 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:14 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:04 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:42 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:44 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:18 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:10 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 10:55 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:43 AM
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Purge CMV!LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:47 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:45 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:20 AM
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NYE Purge Post!LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:55 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:34 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:25 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:49 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:09 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:43 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:42 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 02:17 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:19 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:08 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:21 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:30 PM
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Question For WomenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 08:05 PM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 09:47 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:31 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:35 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:56 AM
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ScienceLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 12:20 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:39 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:59 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:38 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:26 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:58 AM
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ScienceLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 02:07 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:34 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:58 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:38 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:20 AM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:05 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:50 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:34 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:23 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:55 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:19 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:12 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:05 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:29 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:44 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:53 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:04 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:59 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:01 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:00 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 04:09 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:17 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:42 PM
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NYE Purge Post!LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:47 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:27 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 12:52 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:56 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:34 AM
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Question For WomenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 10:39 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:45 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:18 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:28 AM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 11:30 AM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 11:20 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:04 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:37 PM
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ScienceLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:31 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:38 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:07 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 10:36 AM
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Purge CMV!LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:52 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:36 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:38 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:48 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:06 PM
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DiscussionLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 04:13 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:44 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:44 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:57 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:00 PM
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LillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:08 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:54 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:49 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 02:42 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:58 PM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:14 PM
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Question For MenLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 01:36 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:49 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:49 PM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:20 AM
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LIES MEN TELLLillthOfBabylon/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 03:36 AM
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CMVLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 02:54 AM
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DebateLillthOfBabylon/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:14 PM
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Ironically, OkCupid was a lot better before it tried to be more like Tinder. Now I think it’s basically a ghost town now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:25 AM

When people meet organically they see many other cues besides looks and a short bio that's more akin to marketing than an actual description of the person As someone who has seen very dysfunctional relationships from the people around me, that’s very easy to bullshit chemistry and to be a horrible character. Online dating relies a lot on looks and the reality is that most people aren't good looking enough to lead with that Well, that’s where intelligence comes in. A person who leads with looks w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:08 AM

You've made s bunch of posts defending monopolies that prey on human loneliness I am one who has personally met lonely guy offline and talked to them online, it’s usually a self-inflicted problem. Typically, they’re too lazy to socialize and/or they’re simply unlikable. It’s no wonder offline dating wasn’t working either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:01 AM

I’m going to use a video. I watched as an example. It was about how hard dating is for men. It was a guy that’s wiped on 7000 women and he got 290 matches from it. Of those 290 matches, he ignored 191 matches. Now, if online dating was horrible and unfair to men, why would they ignore 2/3 of their matches? Even with other dating experiment, I was looking at, it usually turned out there was pickiness involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:59 AM

Like a situationship. I think it’s easier to end up in one offline because people are trying to not push the issue. With online dating you can make it very clear you’re looking for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:30 AM

Well, I looked into the issues guys had in online dating. It’s not impossible to find women on dating apps. It just guys have to stop being picky. Also, alot of guys cause their dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:29 AM

I n the entire title of the post It’s a great thing I wrote more than just what was in that title. That means they shouldn’t tell it to people they cold approach either Then can society stop acting like fucking random strangers is cool and progressive? Because clearly people think that shit is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:52 PM

You can be open about just/primarily wanting sex without being rude. “I’m looking for something casual,” or “I’m looking for friends with benefits,” are some ways to state it that are very clear but not rude. But people aren’t even doing that, especially when talking to a lot of guys in this sub and then wanna complain that some woman wasted his time. Or when women say “sex is an expression of love in a relationship” but they have been more than able to screw people and it meant absolutely nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:50 PM

You're assuming that's a lie for everyone It’s just people who know how to actually be romantic know how to be romantic without leading everything up to sex. It's not about morality, If that was the case, there wouldn’t be any issue being upfront about what you want. But it seems people want to fuck strangers without admitting they want to fuck strangers. I very much do not just want to "get fucked" Do you actually want romance or are you renaming sex something else because you don’t want to adm…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:11 PM

And lots of people are still having kids, that doesn’t mean there’s not a decrease.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:03 PM

Gen Z still wants sex. You can still want something and want it less than other people. They just don’t have the same social and interpersonal skills What does that have to do with fucking? Because it still gets me to the thought that I don’t think people really like sex like they pretend to. There’s plenty of fun activities people can do that don’t require social skills to be that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:52 PM

Imagine being an 18 year old moving out to college, and your first intro to sex with random people is Tinder. I'm also including guys who follow that red pill Tate type of thinking, fuckboys, pump and dump, narcissists, etc. Charm is overrated when it's not back by substance. Nice guys from a hobby group would have 0% of people who have been to prison before. You have no clue of knowing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:47 AM

Less sex and a falling birth rate, which mean less people to handle the expenses of the elderly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:30 AM

Sex is a normal, healthy, natural part of life. Then why does it seem to be the center of a fuck ton of problems? Intimacy is an incredibly important aspect of psychological well being, Problem is people have to actually WANT intimacy. Not pretend they do. Our current generation's biggest problem is alienation and isolation, From my experience, alot of it is self inflicted. People are 'weird' about sex because the cultural language and practices that once handled this aspect of life has been dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:29 AM

but it feels like sex has become wrapped up in an important battleground for gender rights and agency It has always been that way. There's a reason the places with the most kids are poor, religious, and patriarchal. I feel like the way it’s treated in same gender relationships is probably a healthier representation of how society “ should” view it. I wouldn't go that far considering some of the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:23 AM

Big things like these come from multiple reasons, not just one. Also, even when going outside, I dont think there's that much of an interest either, because like I said, Gen Z likes to sort out their problems the more healthy way rather than drinking and fucking. Idk, Gen Z is overall the least weird about sex compared to any other generation Because theyre not drinking and fucking their problems away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:20 AM
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Just his. No foreplay. No wanting to learn how to excite me. No stimulation. Just. Let me shove it in. A guy can flirt with you and still have all of those problems. Because if sex isnt the point then sex doesnt sound appealling whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:47 PM
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It honestly doesnt sound like women like sex as much as they claim, not even sex positive women seem to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:43 PM
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Why would I want someone who was aware of basic politeness and didn't tell people they'd met once how much they wanted to have sex with them? I do wonder. As I said in my last sentence of the post: I’m confused, why would you guys want someone who pretends they’re not mainly trying to fuck on a date? Someone who pretends that they’re looking for something other than sex, when clearly sex is the main thing they want isn’t that a stupid waste of everyone’s time? And I personally don't want someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:35 PM
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It’s not for the people who want to have mutual sex with each other. But it's about the discussion around it and the complaint of evil bible thumpers being people feel ashamed of sex, as I was explaining in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:08 PM
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Not being open about your sexual desires to strangers Where did I make this argument? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:02 PM
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No, I mean even when people try to strip religion fervor of shaming sex out of society, we still have the "sex positive" community being weirdos about it. We still have guys not respecting their sex partners, we still have women pretending they're not horny, and we still have people using sex as therapy. Ironically, the incels who follow people like Tate are conservatives but they're not the religious types, which leaves no one liking them. There's so many people who simply dont want to fuck for…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:56 PM
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However I’m not going to announce it to society or randomly at social events and meeting people. Right.... would you go around announcing to random people you're looking for romance, passion, etc? Otherwise, wouldn't that be given? Sexual compatibility is very important to me. Therefore I use to bring up sex early in the dating stage even if I’m not planning to have sex with them early. There are certain sexual behaviors that are dealbreakers for me. It’s best to get that out the way. Right, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:43 PM
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Honestly, I think that's what made Gen Z less enthused about sex than previous generations. Because it's realize alot/most people are weirdos about sex. They dont want to simply have fun, they want to use it as a way to improperly deal with their emotional baggage that they wont get therapy/medication for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:40 PM
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your entire post is about being forward and open about your desires i think. And you guys seem to not being able to handle it. Sex positivity clearly isn't real if you guys are ashamed about being honest. Summarize your point in say 3 sentences, You came onto my post to comment. You summarize my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:38 PM
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Just like there's less crass ways to ask for more compensation That's not the same thing as lying or concealing. Like I said in my post: “Sex isnt the only thing I want” So how long are you willing to wait before having? If someone wasn’t that good at first, would you be OK teaching them to get better? And if someone didnt make sex their priority outside of like once a month, you’d be fine with it? I never understood when people say that because you’re not going to care about a relationship if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:36 PM
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You are intentionally being obtuse Hypocrite, because why was this the first thing in your mind? So if you go to the bar looking for a hookup the first thing you will say to a very attractive stranger that comes up to you is "please fuck my brains out and let me have your babies"? Elaborate. Why was this even in your head to begin? What in my post triggered this thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:30 PM
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It seems more like most "sex positive" people dont want to ask for that and want to just say some bullshit like "I'm super passionate and romantic".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:26 PM
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When you go into a job interview do you lead with something like "“I wanna get paid, I wanna get paid good, I wanna get paid often, I wanna get paid NOW”? I know I don't. Ah, so you guys try lying about being honest sounds icky. Yeah, it's not just religious people who are weird about sex. It's not wonder less Gen Z are fucking. Sex isn't the only thing or the most important thing in a relationship, You guys have to actually ACT like it's not. That's been my problem with this sub when people say…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:24 PM
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They don’t need to feel ashamed of their natural desires, but they do need to keep it to themselves But how was lying about being such a “romantic” any better? And how they “need to feel desired” better?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:07 PM
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I’m confused, why would you guys want someone who pretends they’re not mainly trying to fuck on a date? Someone who pretends that they’re looking for something other than sex, when clearly sex is the main thing they want isn’t that a stupid waste of everyone’s time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:05 PM
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So if you go to the bar looking for a hookup the first thing you will say to a very attractive stranger that comes up to you is "please fuck my brains out and let me have your babies"? It says a lot that sex is only appealing when we all have to bullshit and lie. I think sexual compatibility is important for a long term relationship, But you think honesty is weird? Honestly, I think this is a major reason Gen Z isnt having as much sex. It’s not just the bible thumpers that are weird about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:00 PM
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Why would you want someone who pretends they’re sensual and romantic when they’re just super horny? If anything, that makes sex less appealing, because people want to play stupid games.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:55 PM
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This is like when you guys say "Sex is necessary but insufficient", it's very telling you guys can't name the other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:42 AM
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it's much safer to do that in modern society if men don't want any backlash Because the general consensus is that they're a joke and a scam. You guys keep forgetting that 50% of the population is male. Still mostly about looks, though. Thanks for proving my point. The belief is basically "If I had pretty privilege, this wouldn't be a problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:36 AM
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That's assuming the problem is social skills without showing that it is. I have literally shown you guys men getting rejected based on their behavior and profile, but you’ll still make it about looks. Red pill isn't notorious for that, either, since that's where many men go specifically And most guys think theyre a joke and a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:49 PM
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Maybe you should answer that question about your response to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:22 PM

. You're just deciding, arbitrarily, that ignoring 65% of them is not desperate enough. Rejecting most of your options without giving them a chance means youre not desperate. I'm sure women ignore 95% of their matches So you guys arent different from women. You just wish you had more options. I'm sure women ignore 95% of their matches Because there’s more men than women on the able. But also, this is just one random person and it's a woman's perspective Thanks for showing you didnt actually read…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:00 PM

I'm not picky when you compare my match rate to women The vast majority of dating apps users are males. Youre not less picky. You just have less options. You're using an arbitrary benchmark for pickiness Im not. You just didnt read the post. instead of doing a like-for-like comparison “ First of all, if men were desperate, a 47% like rate is abysmal. Real desperation is 80% like rate. Also, his age range was 18 to 25. How interesting he wouldnt go up to 18 - 30, despite the fact thats within 10 …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:58 PM

If we measure pickiness by number of matches Just say youre mad you have less matches. Stop with this lying. Youre picky too. You just mad you have less options to pick through, I wanted to point out that there's no point including outliers Then why are guys here always using outliers as proof how hard guys have it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:18 PM

Yeah no, you have no argument here. Not after we've all seen Nazi child molester Chad's performance on the apps. There’s nothing more to say about men who look at a monster and only feel envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:42 AM
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Why not just admit you want a fuckbuddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:19 AM
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Friendship can teach you how to talk, listen, and enjoy another person’s company Plenty of guys are failing at that and then pretend its attraction thats the problem. The redpill and incels, for example, are notorious for failing at these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:17 AM
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Why do you attempt to give dating advice to men when you have never even pretended for a second that you have their best interests in mind? Its always funny when the redpill keep clamoring for people to pay attention to them and then get upset when people DO pay attention to them. If the manosphere just STFU no one would care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:15 AM
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It's not literal bullying from school The fact YOU still compared it to that is a problem. That shows a lack of maturity. They always required a filtered, basic and dry treatment. And then, like you, they complain about men not having fun on dates? You guys have shit social skills and only know how to be vulgar bullies. This has nothing to do with what I said. Spending a decade in therapy as you suggest No one suggests therapy to people who are acting stable. If you want to keep being unstable, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:14 AM
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to the point that dating is almost entirely irrelevant to talk about To a NORMAL person, yes. Problem is their priorities are not straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:08 AM

Doesn't matter whether or not women are claiming they're desperate This post is made because guys lie to themselves. Sure, a lot of men are envious of women So you guys lie. You’re just mad you have less options than women. Thats all. Guys will feel they're not picky until they're compared against women's dating experience; then they know they're not picky There’s no substantial difference between their pickiness, as I have explained in my post. But also, you're getting hung up on an outlier of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:55 AM
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Interacting with a woman who may become a romantic prospect is qualitatively different from my interactions with friends, and this continues into the relationship So y’all flirt, fuck, and nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:38 PM
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This isn't just men, it's everybody No, its not everybody. Its miserable people, People befriend people when it makes sense to befriend them contextually No, most people befriend who they like. As another person said, I might have been describing a sociopath. If someone believes they're not getting anything out of the relationship Very very very few people will believe having insufferable unlikable friends is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:36 PM
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Nice guys lie to themselves, so they’ll always be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:29 PM
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We came to a conclusion that dating isn't simply "hanging out and having fun" Its just most people know how to be fun without being vulgar bullies, Like…..adults want to date ADULTS. Yeah let me just spend 15 years in therapy while Chad hooks up with girls Already admitting you dont want to break from gender norms. There’s no point in complaining about gender norms you’re willing to abide by.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:26 PM
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Men often socialize differently than women, but “different” isn’t the same as “deficient.” If a guy is struggling how to simply talk to women and how to be likable, it is a deficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:53 PM
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For a lot of people first date is getting to know a guy AND see if there is this spark there, because there should be a reason to continue dating. The first date being fun is typically the reason to continue dating. Because scammers, cheaters, fuckboys, manipulators are all extremely good at creating that spark. I think the interest of sex and romance should be there, but the main focus of a first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:51 PM
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How is being too platonic detrimental? I’m getting skeptical. It was because he was being too platonic because you’re not really explaining what you did on the dates. It’s because often women want to be seduced, flirted with and wooed romantically Im just gonna take it as he goes for women who basically want to speedrun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:49 PM
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No. You are mixing something seriously up here. In my experience this is how women act Except I asked men here if they would want to be around awful people and the majority of the answers was “Yes, if theyre useful”. That's what women do No. Women frequently see and talk to their friends. It can get very deep, emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:43 PM
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hanging out with a friend is when you can crack inappropriate jokes, bully each other, According to you that’s how you started off your friendships. I cant recall that being a normal female experience. Men are raised like this As an adult, its your responsibility to unlearn, especially in a western societies that encourages breaking gender norms,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:33 PM
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He doesn’t have issues attracting women but being too platonic is often detrimental But HOW? And what TYPE of women is he into?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:13 PM
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yeah? That would be a horrible idea for a woman to do because she’ll be a pariah quickly if she does not gauge her audience first. how are they choosing that? Not wanting to be emotionally regulated, getting help, working on social skills, finding any criticism against how society teaches as a war on men in general, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:12 PM
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When to ask questions, how to ask questions, when to flirt, and to read body language. Many men report that dating feels like an interview, Well, how did they meet their friends? Because I suspect doing an activity rather than talking to them. so ladies need to learn to relax and have fun too Questions like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:57 AM
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dating is nonchalant bs mindgames and pretending you're just "seeing where the things go" like you aren't actually interested in your partner. How are you defining “interested”? hanging out with a friend is when you can crack inappropriate jokes, bully each other, take it well and actually have fun But did you START OFF doing that? not because guys are dysfunctional or socially inept More like because young men, atleast in the West, are choosing to be that way and a mix of being more likely to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:56 AM
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I had a friend who’s a pretty likable guy, charismatic and makes friends easily, but he struggled dating. We went out on a double date once and I could see the issue. He was too platonic and his date felt more like kicking it with a friend. The woman texted him after the date saying that she’s feels like more of a friend so they should be friends. Apparently tats how most of his date go. The other factors are what he’s doing on the date and what’s his type. If he likes who expect something quick…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:46 AM
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"Okay but not everyone goes into a first date with the intention of getting fucked at the end of it." - that doesn't matter. You still need to appear sexy, appear interesting in something more than just chatting like with a colleague. It does, especially for someone who takes vetting seriously, doesnt want their judgement clouded, if she’s strictly looking for something long term, etc. For alot of people, a first date is getting to know a guy, not figuring if theyre gonna feel like Jack and Rose…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:38 AM
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the women who have no friends can’t make friends Theyre not getting a man easily. There’s a reason the women most popular with guys are also extraverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:33 AM
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Guy who date need to actually appear sexy, flirt and create sexual tension, Okay but not everyone goes into a first date with the intention of getting fucked at the end of it. Without that it's easy to be discarded with "there is no spark" comment. Spark doesnt have to automatically mean sexual tension. Also, Im talking about the “He cant hold a conversation” type of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:15 AM
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many women also don’t have friendships Not as much as guys with no friends. are very anti social, introverted, but they get a man pretty easy Theyre choosing not to have friends. Being unable and not choosing are quite different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:01 AM
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But again, how are they defining friends? And what are the problems theyre having?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:58 AM
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Lilith we’ve been through this many are upset that being an asshole or not is irrelevant in the first place What the Tate brothers are going through should have already proved to you thats a stupid way of thinking,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:52 AM
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Feels like your strawmaning the post YOU SAID “ Acknowledging that this is how the world works is.tne redpill btw, that's why redpill basically says morals are irrelevant” and thats dumb, because the Tate bros just got snatched from Florida to be on trial in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:51 AM
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which implies being in a location more conducive to meeting women offline Being in a bad location can't be a reason why7 a guy is struggling with dating because the internet eliminates location as a barrier. There are so many factors that can affect a man's experience with the online dating apps. Sometimes there's nothing the man is doing "wrong" other than being in a location with a small, low-quality dating pool, or they may currently live in an area that's a mismatch for their personality and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:15 AM
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If any match is good enough for men to not be considered desperate and we apply the same definition of desperate to women It's not women claiming they're desperate, though. Then, if you compare how easy it is to get a match for a woman So men aren't actually struggling with dating you guys are just jealous of women? You're comparing a man's dating experience against your own measure of "ease"; Thank you for that "yes". I'm not interested in how picky a man is depending on some arbitrary baseline…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:12 AM
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If the rule of thumb is the quality of women on online dating apps is lower on average than offline I have never said that, nor do I believe that. then offline is better Also, you just destroyed your whole point about location. There is a level of intrinsic satisfaction to interacting with real people offline that interacting So you bring up location was irrelevant. You just prefer off-line dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:15 PM
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Right, they chose that struggle. They're not a victim. That is the path they have chosen for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:21 PM
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Right, they chose that struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:20 PM
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When its something like a hobby women hardly do, yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:12 PM
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A lot of men complain about quality too. Right, so the complaints about women's complaints are stupid and hypocritical. Men are picky too, men care about quality too. The problem isn't that they have "zero matches", it's that they dont like their matches, same as women. Men aren't more "reasonable" than women, they're not more "desperate" than women. They simply have less options. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:08 PM
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Acknowledging that this is how the world works is.tne redpill btw, that's why redpill basically says morals are irrelevant So you just revealed that the redpill is stupid. That's how you'll end up like the Tate brothers having three different countries lining up to jail you for decades. As soon as the Tate brothers got to Florida, the governor worked his ass off to find a reason to kick them out. That's what the route you want to go? again the attraction is the door Baseline attraction and prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:06 PM
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Having standards doesn't mean someone isn't struggling. The struggle is a choice. Only if the difficulty is entirely self-created. As I have shown in my post. Women aren't expected to pursue every man who likes them But women are not complaining about quantity. They’re complaining about quality. Guys here complain about quantity and hate when women complain about quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:44 PM
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Their sad that what they been told works Most of you arent exceptional enough to be rulebreakers. Get over it, the men have been gaslit on there about personality only mattering Most of you aren’t attractive enough for your personality to not matter. Get over it. Its also that on top of this many men with the personality That’s for other people to decide. Not for him to decide. It doesn’t matter if he says he’s a good person, other people have to believe he’s a good person. it's the idea that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:39 PM
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You guys are honestly upset that you you have to suffer massive consequences for being an asshole, like everyone else. I don’t know what makes you guys think that is sympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:32 PM
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in the first place also being upset that other have just been fortunate enough to pull a better lot in life is understandable. You guys are honestly upset that you you have to suffer massive consequences for being an asshole, like everyone else. I don’t know what makes you guys think that is sympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:25 PM
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remember the other side claims that the expections do not exist Most of you are still not exceptional. So oh well, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:20 PM
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It’s really that they’re mad that there are exceptions to the rules, it’s just they’re not exceptional. They’re mad at their men who don’t need good moral character to get women, but those women expect characteristics that those men don’t possess either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:59 PM
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It’s not really putting women on a pedestal, it’s about seeing people from a utility perspective. They only care if someone is of use to them. Also, it’s being an emotional toddler. The other option is that we're all liars who promised good prizes women but in reality it's damaged goods Toddlers want reality to bend to their will. If people aren’t doing what the toddler wants, the toddler feels victimized. They think that women should choose men fairly Honestly, I would argue the dating market i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:58 PM
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Sometimes there's nothing the man is doing "wrong" Thing is guys who are doing wrong will always claim this. Sometimes there's nothing the man is doing "wrong" other than being in a location with a small, low-quality dating pool The point of the internet is to expand your search for people like you. if the local area is that suffocating, then that’s their sign to move. The reality is online dating apps are just a garbage product for most men If you’re going to use location as an excuse, how is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:26 PM
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Adaptation is important, but it also matters how we talk about people who are struggling. Telling someone they are failing because they haven’t “adapted enough” can ignore factors like mental health, trauma, social anxiety, disability, I had an ex with these problems, and he still did nothing to fix these problems despite the fact having the job to fund his mental health journey. Meanwhile, I have met younger adults with less money, using free resources to work on their mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:26 PM
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The fact you’re having to ask everyone about this, speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:24 PM
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So you're choosing to dismiss and ignore women as well So you’re going to oversimplify my argument because you can’t argue against the reasons why I said she’s being an idiot. Got it. You're also using niceguy logic. Being picky lowers match quality Since you don’t know what quantity is, we can end this discussion right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:21 PM
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It proves he had to make an absurd number of attempts to get one result. Yes, because of his pickiness and his absurd standards. Dating difficulty isn’t measured by whether someone is willing to accept literally anybody. You choosing the difficulty makes your complaining irrelevant The 16,000-swipe example has the same problem. A 3% match rate is still a 3% match rate If he was actually desperate, he would’ve swiped on 80% of the people he saw on Tinder and he wouldn’t have ignored 191 women. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:21 PM

This is you showing that men are crazy for using YouTube videos as sources? Because it didn’t say what they think it says, but since you rejected the sources entirely, there’s no further reason to have discussions on the issue. You saying they can basically be used as sources as you recognize it’s not a formal source? But you rejected all of them on the count that they’re not formal sources, since you basically rejected the arguments I was arguing against, there’s no reason to further discuss th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:14 PM

So your point was that it doesn’t prove desperation? And you basically said that the dating experiment I was told to look at don’t prove desperation either, so the debate ends there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:12 PM

Not once have you said that until I said they weren’t good sources They were given to me as good sources of showing me how hard dating is for men. Since you rejected the evidence that it shows that dating is hard for men, then there’s no point in continuing the conversation. Because you already rejected the original argument I was countering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:10 PM

They didn’t call me out they just said why didn’t I say it other times She didn't. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:06 AM

There was a debate, just one where me and a couple of people telling you that you intentionally missed the point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:03 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:02 AM

She didn’t even debate me just got upset Speaking of bad faith! I said this isn’t a study No, you said it wasnt a FORMAL study and neither were the other dating experiments I referenced, so there was no point in continuing the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:57 AM

What an interesting coincidence you were just complaining about whataboutism on my post after 3 or 4 different people called you out for missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:56 AM

Also, beyond the "whataboutism" he's complaining about, he also didn't read my post based on questions he asked me. Not sure how someone can have a good faith debate when they're not even reading what the debate is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:36 AM

This is about him getting upset that people told him that his argument against my post isn't a counter to my post because it was already a counter to another argument. His argument was "Your sources aren't formal studies". Like yeah, everyone knows. The point is that they're stupid sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:31 AM
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You talked about the fact it's not a formal study. Well, none of them are, so no point in continuing. Gonna be the last reply from me until you decide to discard that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:23 AM
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That was my rebuttal to the claim that "an incel isn't an incel until they've exhausted all possible options to not be an incel." You didn't. You went straight to being Epstein's customer the moment I said they're volcels. You accidentally implied THAT is a satisfying sexual encounter over more moral/legal solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:14 AM
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. You are doing the same thing they are doing and using videos as a source. That's how a counterargument works. So your counter to my counter is "This source is stupid". Yeah, EVERYONE KNOWS. That's the point. It's STUPID. So you have given me no other reason to continue the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:11 AM
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Also, in all your attempts to make men seem like the victims, you ended up making them look like the villains. You have basically showed why incels are considered an international threat to societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:08 AM
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And they are just as bad for doing it Then take it up with them, not the person responding to them. Are we gonna whattaboutism my point to death Yes, because you refuse to understand CONTEXT.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:04 AM
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You could show a picture of a 5/10 man to 1000 women, ask them if they would like to have sex with them, Women more often than not dont even orgasm during casual sex, so why would they generally want to? They typically dont, they try it, realize it sucks, and dont do it again. The women you guys see love hookups are in the minority. I used getting sex for that example, because it is a good indicator of if someone finds that person attractive. According to guys here, no it's not. than there would…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:04 AM
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Many of the men who claim that men are desperate and will settle for any woman are likely desperate men who will in fact settle for any woman. Then let me rephrase: Dating is brutal for men because they make it brutal for them. If they were really hurting for some matches/success, they would lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:00 AM
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If you're assuming I said CSA was "the better solution," as opposed to "the logical endpoint of your claim," The fact your mind even went there unprompted makes that a distinction without a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:17 AM
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If you're talking about focusing on personality and compatability, that's been a thing in dating since forever, that's not new and that's not something men need to re-learn. Most men dont. The guys I made this post about definitely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:14 AM
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That's such a complete misreading of what I wrote that I'm starting to question your reading comprehension. That's how they end up thinking women told them sex is a reward for niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:12 AM
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You're confusing consideration for illustration. All because I said they're volcel because they're not willing to settle? And then leading to you implying CSA is the better solution, implying indignation, which stems from entitlement to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:06 AM
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edit it so youre not implying CSA could theoretically anything. Why would he do that? He knew what was saying. There's a reason he past talking about sex toys and consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:04 AM
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like how can women be constantly complaining that men are trying to get with them That's not the topic, so I dont care. But also, if you look at the last video I posted, even the guys were creeped out by how the women behaved when talking to Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:03 AM
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The argument of "if a man were truly desperate, he wouldn't be picky" is a textbook appeal to purity, Which had led you down the route of considering CSA as a solution to Inceldom. Not the ladies of the night, not other consenting adults, just STRAIGHT TO EPSTEIN ISLAND. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:01 AM

Just to let you know, this was the type of conversation that was just had. So this is the reaction given when told guys might have to settle if sex so much of a need for them. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:53 AM
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One guy just said that committing CSA is a good solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:44 AM
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"have you tried being a worse person," See how quickly you take the deprave route when I bring up accountability and criticizing entitlement? Just like you imply people who think like that deserve love?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:41 AM
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He's not promoting anything. He brought it up for no reason. There could’ve been other solutions to solve inceldom, but he picked the Epstein route.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:40 AM

Btw, he just brought up incels committing CSA as a solution. Dont talk to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:14 AM
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You're the one who chose to raise the argument This is what happens when a lack of accountability is mixed in with a sense of entitlement. You think some fucked up shit and then you try to blame it on me. And by the way, next time you try to talk to me, I’m gonna make sure everyone’s reminded just how you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:07 AM
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An incel could theoretically stop being an incel if they start preying on children. See how fast you go into depravity and entitlement as soon as accountability is expected? And by the way, next time you try to talk to me, I’m gonna make sure everyone’s reminded just how you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:04 AM
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An incel could theoretically stop being an incel if they start preying on children. See how fast you go into depravity as soon as accountability is expected?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:04 AM
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I explained my reasons for saying that, if you guys would so kindly actually respond to the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:03 AM
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Making the font bigger doesn't improve it as an argument. I’m using bigger font because I don’t think you guys are reading what I’m writing. Then they are picky beggars That’s just an oxymoron, they’re not actually beggars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:00 AM
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Right, because that’s the pattern with this sub. Guys here don’t care about what I’m saying, they just know I made them upset and that hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:00 AM
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No, they’re claiming they’re not as picky about it as women. But that’s based on what they think is an average woman, which is extremely attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:58 PM
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It's the same underlying logic that paints incels as volcels unless they have settled for even the most unsatisfying sexual encounters to ascend. So it is voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:57 PM
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i watched the videos and none of them said anything along the lines of the guy being able to appeal to most women You cant be saying “but I dodnt say that” and then start arguing against what other people didnt say. We cant converse if youre gonna be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:55 PM
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It’s not like you guys have anything to count through my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:35 PM
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Insulting me doesn’t change what I said. Men aren’t desperate they like being picky and dont care it leaves them with little options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:30 PM
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A Western guy in 2026 is gonna have to make really good point how being treated like shit on a massive scale isnt his fault. I’m waiting for an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:29 PM
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Once you drop the bad arguments and delusions So now facts are delusions because it shows men dont lower their standards enough? People should be picky anyways So men aren’t actually desperate. They want to have the limited dating options they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:28 PM
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They FEEL desperate. Having to lower one’s standards to a fat girl feels like desperation…..until they realize they live in America and the average woman is actually obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:22 PM
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I gave my example in my post, but since you’re not gonna read it, there’s no point in continuing this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:21 PM
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which successful men agree with you I gave the videos. If you’re going to actually participate in the debate, can you please actually address what I say instead of skimming? I showed multiple videos of men explaining how dating is it that hard, that guy is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:19 PM
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Many people are angry with dating because they feel they should be valued more That is a sense of entitlement. A Western guy in 2026 is gonna have to make really good point how being treated like shit on a massive scale isnt his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:18 PM
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your explanation would not make him appealing to most women Oh lovely, men telling women what women want even when other men WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL AT DATING agree with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:15 PM
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idk what any of that has to do with "manosphere" Of course you dont. You’re not looking at anything on my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:14 PM
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For example, even a man desperate for female attention may not date a woman he's not attracted to So he’s not actually desperate. That alone implies that many beggars do, in fact, still try to choose. They’re a bunch of liars. They’re picky, they’re just mad they wont get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:13 PM
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You were around in the early 1900s? You were marching with MLK in the 60s?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:09 PM
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Some may be entitlement others not so much. You just described a sense of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:06 PM
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Many people are angry with dating because they feel they should be valued more. No one is gonna entertain their sense of entitlement. That men shouldn’t complain? If theyre desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:03 PM
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that's not what i said though - i am just challenging your baseless claim that he would appeal to most women if he was really desperate. I explained how, but you intentionally ignored it. So I have to guess you ignored it because you guys wanting the type of treatment they see hot girls getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:01 PM
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Ok? Go get some formal studies then. Im working with what guys here give me and expect me to look at. If its stupid, take it up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:59 PM
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Who’s WE?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:58 PM
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I haven't seen any of your videos Thats on you. I showed my evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:58 PM
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This cannot be used “like a study” as there’s formal things set in place for actual studies Then I guess none of my examples can be used because none of them are formal. Youre more than welcome to bring formal studies on here!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:57 PM
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the average Millennial or Zoomer man is far more progressive in rhetoric and action than his predecessors As you can see from my videos, they also dont agree with the things the manosphere says.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:55 PM
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That’s not a metric of measurement at all. That’s just you guys pretending you’re more humble than what you are. As I have laid out, you guys just want pretty privilege so you could do nothing and get everything you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:49 PM
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They don't make any meaningful effort to change They FEEL desperate. That’s why they get angry when women tell them what desperation really is. If things are really as miserable as they claim, why keep doing the exact same thing that's been failing for years? They FEEL they compromised enough. If your approach doesn't work, you change your approach. That's what everyone else has had to do. They FEEL they changed enough. Women adapted to changing social expectations. They FEEL women shouldnt have…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:48 PM
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desperate men don't suddenly become physically attractive Thanks for proving my last sentence right! Guys wanting the type of treatment they see hot girls getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:45 PM
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She and you said that men make self regulation others problem A woman being a karen and a guy getting violent are two very different problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:23 PM
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But even looking at how they’re breaking down the numbers and how he’s not trying that hard was very very telling. Especially with that generic ass profile they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:28 PM
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Claiming men are the more logical ones is also based on a minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:15 PM
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Did your opinion change after seeing so many soccer players punching, insulting, bawling their eyes out during the world cup? I would say more that they're more likely to have their deregulation be everyone's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:14 PM
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I was gonna post today, but looking through dating experiments like this: https://youtu.be/35fiNZTVVtU?si=1B77k0AAZyzEXX0- Holy shit, I have ALOT of evidence of what I have been saying about guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:59 PM
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Sure, I’ll keep that in mind. But I do have things to do soon, so I don’t really wanna give too much of my time doing that right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:40 PM
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How would you like evidence? I mean what is even sufficient enough for you lmao Also, getting a picture of your profile, just censor your face, would be very helpful. Take a picture of your likes before you boost the account. Take a picture showing that you did boost the account, and then take a picture of your likes after you boost the account.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:24 PM
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No, no it doesn’t. Paying for a sub/verifying my profile turned my 0 matches to a whopping 0 matches You guys claimed that, but I want to see some evidence of this. But I don’t think I’ll ever get it. Profile made by a close woman friend, semi-professional photos I spent 100$ on, 50$ a month sub, and that’s before I even get the CHANCE to take a girl out to dinner. Is this a friend who only cares about looks and status? Because there’s also a pattern of you guys seem to only know very superficia…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:37 PM
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And not only that, they’re not aware of it and seemingly comfortable being that way. I do not think it’s all men, but it’s definitely a large portion of them. I’m talking…basic stuff….”i spilt my water bottle, I can’t get in the gym, I cant log into my account, my membership has defaulted (ran out of money) have you had this handed into lost property” blah blah blah. That needs more context. I was at a Gym called Baileys and they tried to rip me off because they didnt see that the trainer they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:26 PM
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Show pictures of the number of people you liked you BEFORE boosting and after Boosting," You made the claim first, See lazy. Can’t even take a picture, can’t even spend seven dollars, And can’t even take another picture. Most men’s dating problems is a issue of laziness and a lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:20 PM
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You're not a man So I cant get my account verified. why cant you guys do it? Why cant you guys do the experiment? Why do you guys want to force other people to do it? I've boosted my accounts and it made no difference. Show pictures of the number of people you liked you BEFORE boosting and after Boosting,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:59 PM
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It's your claim, I already know boosting helps because I’ve done it multiple times on my own dating accounts. I’m not going to waste my time or money on dating experiments when other people have already done it and they’ve already strong problems with their situation. if you guys wanna approve unreasonably disadvantage on dating apps, you do it. You can get yourselves verified better than I can. You guys just won’t because you’re lazy, just like you guys are lazy on your dating profile which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:21 PM
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You can ask a PPDer to help you. Why can’t you guys do it yourselves? Because that really does show the problem that you guys are just very, very lazy. You have done nothing and nothing has worked so you blame society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:45 PM
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Why does Lillith keep banging on about men being "good" or "bad", "kind" or "mean" “Why does Lillith respond ti the things guys constantly complain about and what guys beg women to acknowledge?” see, the problem is you guys thought acknowledgment and pity were the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:29 AM
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She literally said the opposite of that. 5:30 proves you wrong. It's funny how she became depressed by the experience in like 5 days Because she got more selective, she most likely didn’t verify the account, even though she had the guy to help her verify the account, and she most likely didn’t boost the account.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:27 AM
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The criminal is still a worse person That doesn’t make good option if literally no one else wants to be around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:47 AM
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There are common criminals partying every night Guys, that’s saying something if they know how to make friends and you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:34 AM
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How much effort can one put in for a gender who thinks 5'10" is practically a midget Guys, you have to actually lower your standards. You guys keep thinking Stacy is average,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:23 AM
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The point is not that everyone only wants to be Chad Then stop bringing him up. Guys, Chad is not your competition because the women he gets would never fucking want you. when the man in question is attractive to the specific woman Guys, a woman like that will never want you. Stop wanting to fuck her, she don’t think a damn thing about you. Why is it that we normalise men approaching women for really no other reason than looks Then dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:22 AM
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Another nonsensical thread from someone born into the privilege Imagine calling being likable a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:12 AM
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it then makes no sense to assume that people who can't befriend others are shitty. Means they're even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:11 AM
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No. Dating apps are between 25% to 33% women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:52 PM
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How did that change what I said? Dating apps aren't stagnant. Also, use other dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:13 PM
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I'm not seeing any evidence except that you guys keep describing Stacy and pretending she's average because you're have to accept your standards are too high and you actually think most women are butt ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:32 PM
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So I cant see their profiles, nor their likes, or the amount of matches they have, nothing. She immediately said she started getting picky, not mention about a boost, if I remember correctly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw&t=709s Did a 6 month experiment. Didn't even think that saying he's looking for something short term would be a problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3d4rWHrR_Y&t=863s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:26 PM
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Men here: Women dont understand how desperate men are! Me: Have you ever improved yourself and compromised more on what women you wanted? Same men:....Why would we do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:12 PM
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You do realize most men have paid premium, From the two dating experiments I have seen, they never mentioned that they did. So can you please show me guys doing a boost and still getting no matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:09 PM
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Ok but that's not relevant to whether or not men receive longer sentences for the same crimes w/same factors as women. But do we look into the method of murder, the motive of the murders, etc? That matters alot with jury and judges. Most of the world does not hold to crude collective guilt enforcement. What does that have to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:05 PM
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Listen if you guys wanna be lazy and do nothing, that's on you, not dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:03 PM
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I mean its pretty much verified to be nearly every women at this point and the app date backs this up as well. Present them. it's both again 90%ish of women's attention goes to the same 10%ish 90% of women YOU WANT goes to the same 10%. Lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:02 PM
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everbody can make a fake acc with some unknow male model Most of you will never be Chad. Stop trying to act like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:54 PM
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and how the suppose the other bottom 90% of guys do with the 10% of women not sharing Chad then. That says alot about the types of women you want. Lower your standards. There competition to the average guy due to the sheer number of volume of women that there taking. So it has nothing to do with Chad, it's the gender imbalance in in dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:49 PM
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So to just constantly punt to 'what about this other aggravating factor that I assert (without evidence) that men do worse' Men are actually more prone to violence and women are more prone to poison. This has actually been documented. Just like most serial killers are men, at a 85 to 90% rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:47 PM
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Nope I’m saying that as long as chads are on the apps Chad is not your competition unless you make him so. So arrogant and narcissistic for subpar/ mediocre men to compare themselves to a man that actually have pretty privilege. Humble yourselves, your "competition" is other average men. Stop chasing what Chad gets, she's clearly out your league if she's getting Chad's attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:40 PM
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This is putting more excuses Then go do your own experiment and get the account VERIFIED. Most people do generic things, So they're doing nothing to stand out as well as not getting their account verified. Well, it's even easier for you to prove all of us wrong Yes, because I have the links. She admits she mostly spend the week posing as a man swipe on the hottest women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw&t=709s He set on his profile that he's looking for Short term: https://www.youtube…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:35 PM
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This argument completely dies off when he point out there they are tons of dating app experiments where a women manages a men’s profile, takes new pictures rewrites the bio and STILL cant get matches. Link them. I want to see those profiles. coincidentally we also have experiments where where someone grabs a few random photos of Chad MOST OF YOU ARE NOT CHAD. Stop thinking you can act like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:24 PM
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That’s all mostly irrelevant as long as the guy is also completely with chads on the app. Most guys aren't Chads, though. You're just proving my point that guys here actually mad they dont merely exist and people worship them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:10 PM
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Installing the app takes effort, That is what a lazy person says. making a profile takes effort, You have to ACTUALLY make a profile and not add in generic shit in it. Hell, alot of guys just leave it blank or say "just chat and find out". the problem here treating date like meritocracy and if you don't get matches is because you don't put enough effort, Of the three experiments showing "men have a hard time dating" they were all picky. What's this supposed to convey? Pay so the algorithm can pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:08 PM
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You know how many users have premium accounts in dating apps like tinder? Around 13% to 15% And? Do you guys want results, or do you want something to bitch about? Saying that guys struggle with matches because they don't pay for premium If you guys were actually desperate for matches, you would put in the effort. But instead, you guys are lazy. You have done nothing and nothing has worked, so then you go to blame society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:52 PM
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You're trying to deny my experience by saying I got no swipe right because I was picky Seems weird that you’re implying you only got scammers to like your profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:48 PM
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Most men are on dating apps out of desperation Then why are they still picky? I’ve seen three dating experiments to prove “it’s super hard for a man to be on a dating app”, all three experiments showed the guy is being picky. One experiment the guy wanted something short term, open to long-term. One guy swiped on 2 million women, and is dating profile basically says he’s looking for a woman to fish with him and be OK with the fact he had 33 snakes. One experiment was done by a girl pretending to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:44 PM
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I showed you why men don’t get matches. If you’re not gonna put in the effort to write it out, I’m not gonna put in the effort to read. Most men on dating apps are there because they either can’t attract women naturally WHO CARES?! There’s women on the apps. Most women don’t have issues attracting random men, So this is just you guys upset you have to put in more effort into dating. You guys are mad that you don’t have the pretty privilege to do nothing and get results. Men aren’t doing that bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:40 PM
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As for boosting however, as someone who has been doing this shit for 8 years now, boosting is only effective if you’re new to an area You act as if there aren’t new users coming on or newly single people coming back onto the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:37 PM
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Well no I don't, they're very recognizable and they actually use picture of these extremely uncanny looking chinese women. So you only noticed them when they steal the pictures of Asian women. So I'll assume you meant "you only see scammers because you swipe only on very attractive women". It's the only way your comment makes any sense. And yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:35 PM
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You act like women and men have identical dating lives The complaint is that men get barely any matches. I’m saying that comes from the fact that they do very little outside of posting pictures and not understanding. They don’t have the pretty privilege to only close by with their looks. They actually have to put some effort into getting success.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:34 PM
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Clearly, having no matches doesn’t bother you guys when you do nothing to try to increase your matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:30 PM
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You guys, that mindset doesn’t work when there’s also women on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:29 PM
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The problem is scammers only steal the pictures of very attractive women…..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:25 PM
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Then link me where they did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:23 PM
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Everything BUT putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:23 PM
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Those men can write a thoughtful, witty profile that never gets seen. You say that, but has there ever been a dating experience where the guy’s profile was actually thoughtful, with no red flags, and says they want a relationship? aren't apps set up so you don't see the profile until after you've seen the picture? You CAN if you want to. That’s the problem with guys leaving empty profiles, so then they’re relying even more on their pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:16 PM
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It's just a simple tinder experiment as an average Not having a verified account will automatically getting (basically) blocked by alot of verified accounts. If guys want match is so bad, why would you do things to decrease the chances of people liking your account?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:14 PM
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Having to pay money for the chance of finding a relationship is some sort of humiliation ritual for everyone involved Not me. I’ve used the boost several times being single and my matches increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:09 PM
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It’s all been debunked. When has this been debunked?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:08 PM
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If you really want to prove something there's nothing stopping you from doing one How am I suppose to get a verified account as a man when I am a cis woman? What's the point of this post? That you guys intentionally ignore multiple factors. Which implies dating apps are that bad You guys are just lazy and cant accept you dont have pretty privlege.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:07 PM
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No it’s that pretty privilege is rea Most of you dont have it, so stop behaving like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:59 PM
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But is it gonna give you method, motive, and relationship to victim? A woman who killed her boyfriend for giving her an STD that led to her miscarriage is not the same as a man who killed someone for fun. Same thing when it comes to poisoning versus chopping somebody up premortem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:55 PM
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What are they calling offense type?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:44 PM
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The reason why I’m skeptical about the differences in sentencing is that we don’t really see the details of these cases. For example, how a murder is carried out, and the motive behind the murder is going to affect sentencing, even though both of them are considered murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:30 PM
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If you’re talking online dating Then it’s not that guys aren’t given an opportunity, they’re making really bad first impressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:28 PM
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Guys, if you can’t verify your account, you’re going to be more ignored. Also, do you guys even boost your account?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:27 PM
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Guys, you have also showed me other dating experiments, and the typical problem is that the experimenters were being picky. Could you guys show me someone doing a dating experiment showing how hard it is to date as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:26 PM
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Its obvious nobody wants to talk to ugly people male or female If they don’t even wanna talk to you on the Internet, where you don’t have to show their face if you don’t want to, they’re definitely the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:25 PM
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A few people asked you to make a profile I would have no way to verify the account, and I’m not willing to spend the money to boost the account, so that will have a massive effect on my matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:57 PM
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When they’re the ones bitching the most about dating, yes. We’re gonna criticize them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:53 PM
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Only if youre foolish enough to go for the most punishable crimes Yeah, most felons are horrible people. while elon musk has committed enough crimes Is there proof? Regardless of money, America is still innocent until proven guilty. Also, Musk’s stock TANKED after working with Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:51 PM
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I would have no way to verify the account, which would heavily affect the results. As well as I’m not willing to spend money for this experiment, which would help boost my account to get more matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:50 PM
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She fails to show her actual dating profile, omits the vast majority of her conversations, particularly hiding the interactions where she was successful. Also, provides no verification of whether the account was verified. Does tender give people the option to verify that they’re not making a fake account? It does Tinder give people the option to only talk to people who have verified their account? She actively ruins her own data pool by getting picky, abandoning her initial broader approach to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:32 PM
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To summarize: She fails to show her actual dating profile, omits the vast majority of her conversations, particularly hiding the interactions where she was successful. Also, provides no verification of whether the account was verified. Does tender give people the option to verify that they’re not making a fake account? It does Tinder give people the option to only talk to people who have verified their account? She actively ruins her own data pool by getting picky, abandoning her initial broader…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:32 PM
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First of all, I just showed you men also not being sympathetic to male struggles. So it simply just you don’t like it when people don’t coddle certain men. 1:30 “Youre attractive” his hair looks like a toupee, so I’m already not trusting this woman’s judgment. I’m gonna have to see what type of photos of his she’s using because that hairstyle is not doing him favors. 4:10 she also gave him a generic ass profile, according to her, so I wouldn’t be impressed by that either. Also, she didn’t show u…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:13 PM
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Cheating, chronic unemployment, or alcoholism is acceptable Sounds like living in the ghetto. Most people arent ghetto.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:17 PM
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You conveniently ignore all the life advantages that being a horrible person brings Like going to jail and being ostracized by society? To be an entertainer requires being self centered with some hindered empathy And then going to jail and/or having a ruined career?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:14 PM
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Unless we’re talking about a birthday fact, the problem with looks is entirely a choice by people. In America, it’s usually obesity. But thing is, most Americans are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:11 PM
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But for those who have yet to find their people? As an adult, especially with the Internet, it shouldn’t be that hard to find your people. The difference between those two groups is timing, The excuse cannot be blaming timing forever, especially when someone’s an adult with internet access.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:07 PM
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So suddenly, the male experience doesn’t count what even other men see a guy being the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:04 PM
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literally a guy... not every guy. And even other guys said dating’s not that bad. Even this guy wouldnt be considered conventionally attractive and he’s saying its not hard to date: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtHXAB/ Instead of bitching that we are so bad without actually helping Theyre giving criticism and I did too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:00 PM
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The way you speak is like "if you have a problem then you are the problem If basically every one likes him less than bigots and Trump, he’s the problem. I'm pretty sure more people that likes Trump than you I also have people who like me, so……
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:23 PM
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And there is nothing chosen about a shy or autistic man having trouble in social situations Shy as in he’s doing nothing to get the opportunity to know people? Also, if other autistic people dont like him either…..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:21 PM
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Guys claim “dating is a numbers game” but they’re losing. And this tinder profile proves the problem: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtQhRn/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtPuM2/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtQwkL/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCt4ENK/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtgMjD/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtQhRn/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtHXAB/ To explain to people with no tiktok. A man swiped on 2 million women and only got one date out of it and it was not a successful one. how many tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:07 PM
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You think bigots don't have friends? So what the fuck are y’all doing where youre liked than bigots? The US elected as president the biggest of them all. Imagine being less liked than TRUMP and thinking everyone else is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:04 PM
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A funny, kind person in the wrong environment can struggle socially Furries have found a great solution to that problem. The internet. How do you think theyre finding people for their conventions? An obnoxious but charismatic person in the right environment can thrive. If theyre obnoxious then theyre not charismatic. They just found other people to be obnoxious with. If anything, that strengthens my point. Shitty people can find other shitty people to befriend, but a good person cant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:00 PM
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Not birth defects, the average male experience on dating apps. So they are given a chance, it’s just their profile is bad. Typically, they’re too picky, they’re giving off red flags, their pictures are atrocious, and/or they’re looking for something casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:52 PM
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Not birth defects, the average male experience on dating apps. So they are given a chance, it’s just their profile is bad. Typically, they’re too picky, they’re giving off red flags, their pictures are atrocious, and/or they’re looking for something casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:52 PM
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That’s usually said by people who wanna keep being assholes and are upset they don’t have the looks or status to convince people to put up with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:49 PM
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Try. it. See how quickly you ignore what women say when you dont like it? How about you show me a dating experiment where the guy wasn't the problem? Im waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:46 PM
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So are you talking about birth defects?Otherwise, we live in the current year where people can dress up like animals and think really creepy thoughts about animals but can find like minded people and create communities from it. Like, what is a person doing to where they’re less accepted than people who wanna fuck the characters from Zootopia?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:43 PM
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We live in the current year where people can dress up like furries and go to conventions to fuck each other, but a person literally can’t find anyone to want to be around them? And I’m supposed to believe it’s not their fault? And I really wish we would stop pretending confidence is so important, I definitely know people who aren’t confident and make friends. It’s called being likable. Seriously, have you guys never met someone who was confident, insufferable and dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:38 PM
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Its bold making this claim while never having experienced it from the other side Because I give good first impressions, so people like to get to know me more. I'd genuinely love for women to get the standard dating app experience a majority of men get. So guys are given a chance, they’re just making bad first impressions on their profile. On a dating app of your choice, set up an account as a guy, I’ve seen two dating experiments from the guy’s perspective, and it’s definitely the problem with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:35 PM
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its mostly true, scoring sufficiently in looks and status When you have a shit personality, looks and status are very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:32 PM
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That's acting like people can't be indoctrinated to hate a specific kind of people So no one wants to be around them because they’re bigots? Where I live I'm a minority Are you literally the only one? Do you not know anyone on the Internet? Who’s just like you? Everytime I see people shit on specific physical traits So you ARE talking about birth defects. People on the Internet don’t care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:31 PM
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Wouldn't this also include autistic men who are great people but just shy? Then it’s not that no one gives them the opportunity. They don’t give themselves the opportunity. And also men who aren't attractive enough to make it on dating apps? So a birth defect? And also men who leave women alone and don't get approached? Then it’s not that no one gives them the opportunity. They don’t give themselves the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:29 PM
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I came here to say I legit do not care, and that’s all I’m going to say about it. If you guys want to look like creeps or losers, that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:24 PM
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If you want him to earn it via "having a good personality" or something, that sounds like a worse precedent That says alot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:40 PM
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Men being more prone to radicalization is a societal problem, explaining the conversations get more geared towards men, which was the point of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:15 PM
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I once told someone, "The hardest part about dating is getting TO the date." Then they did get a chance. They just failed at a first impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:05 PM
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Really says alot about you when that's the only other thing you can think up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:04 PM
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Your entire world view is based on what men say on this sub? Did I say that? do you ever consider the value you bring to others? I answered your question: I dont bitch and blame other people for my problems, so why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:03 PM
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Before they're doing something? So. is he not trying to interact with people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:57 PM
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It's almost nothing but women doing it https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUrDRq/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUYvjn/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEU82XR/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUYreQ/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUFr2U/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEU8JXv/ I have plenty more to show.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:53 PM
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And then they stop having casual sex because they realize it wasn't for them. You guys overestimate the amount of women who enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:51 PM
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Someone can be perfectly average If they're overlooked while average looking, they're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:48 PM
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Remember, it wasn't men who wrote 50 Shades of Grey Christian Grey is a hot rich CEO that stalks a random reporter chick. If you guys are just gonna lie like this, this conversation is over. Also, thank you for the greatest proof that men will very much lie to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:42 PM
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Ironic, when you don't want to listen to the men who disagree with you either. I do. You guys conflate listen to with "agree and pity". You find the men who are an outlier, an extreme, That's the typical guy that brings up Male Loneliness Epidemic, as mentioned by the guys in those tiktoks. Also, I did a post here and plenty of men implied that men will get hostile with society when they dont get their way. And at some point multiple people thought Dungeons and Dragons was a satanic cult A coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:34 PM
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Personality is so subjective If it's to the point he complains about no one liking him, that tells you he's the problem. Personality is a lot like humor. If people collectively dont laugh, then you're not funny. the problem is while conflict will filter out incompatible people, being a doormat is fertile ground for a lot of very weak/shallow antiquates. The false dichotomy you guys come up with instead of admitting being an asshole is problem is extremely telling. It's very obvious you guys want…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:29 PM
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What's unfair is that men have to bring a bunch of "value" to the table (good looks, money, Height, Athletic build, status, personality, confidence). Lower your standards,. If you have to bring all of that to a date, you're chasing Stacy. Meanwhile a women don't need to bring anything to the table most time Because you're chasing Stacy. I shouldn't have to be a Top Tier man just to feel loved. Because you're chasing Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:24 PM
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Says alot that the only thing you value is money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:22 PM
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Because society has much lower social standards for women Then we would have definitely seen a female version of Tate be even MORE POPULAR than Tate. aren't as prone to radicalization. Congratulations. You just explained why people specifically focus on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:21 PM
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Okay, and? He's not the only one to do that. Exactly, plenty of men criticize this Male Loneliness Epidemic topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:20 PM
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Guys are constantly being told that they're the ones that need to examine the value they bring to the relationship, It seems like alot of them aren't listening and join manosphere groups. with women saying that they should basically be able to just 'show up'. That says alot about the types of women you guys are willing to entertain, most likely conventionally attractive women or women willing to do hookups. Charlie Sheen had people looking away from the bad things he did because he was good look…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:18 PM
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Yes, because women are eager to weaponize it. First of all, the mayor of New York is a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:15 PM
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So tiktok is a valid source of news America considers CNN as a valid source of news. Listen you guys trying to come up with random reasons to deny male loneliness got into the mainstream will not change what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:15 PM
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I do not worship politicians. That has nothing to do with the conversation. I know you guys are upset that alot of dumbasses gave people a reason to criticize incels and the manosphere but making up reasons to argue will not change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:14 PM
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and the guardian is not mainstream? Compared to CNN, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:12 PM
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.....Listen, if you're not gonna read what I wrote, I am not gonna waste my time. The male loneliness epidemic has hit mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:11 PM
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That doesn't really follow. Someone can have plenty to offer and still struggle if they're consistently overlooked because of physical attraction. So they look like the hunchback of Notre Dame, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:45 PM
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Who cares? Is he Jesus? He’s the mayor of America’s most populated city. Him referencing that means a lot more than some random articles that people don’t really care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:39 PM
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What do you mean? Plenty of losers have dads, they’re just not good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:37 PM
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You mean women who are stupid and don’t have morals? Confidence only works if people don’t think you’re awful and they don’t think you’re stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:36 PM
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The vast majority of humans prioritize appearance before anything else Like baseline attraction, which guys here hate hearing because they want their looks to do all the work for them Listen, if you want to blame everything on your genetics and never your behavior, go ahead. But that’s not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:31 PM
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But if they were, But most aren’t, so why is this a discussion? not exactly a confirmation of the primacy of personality. It is, because most of you aren’t special enough to be an exception to that rule
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:24 PM
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Everyone has a right to react to their problems however they want That attitude is precisely why multiple governments declare incels as a national threat. need to interrogate the idea that it is entitled to believe in inherent human worth That is under the assumption they have done nothing wrong. because on the other side of that belief is the justification that it's okay do dehumanize people People do with the people like Epstein and bigots all the time. No one really cares. That's the same log…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:21 PM
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Most of you aren’t impressive, So personality matters a lot for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:16 PM
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You yourself said that “when you’re not impressive, personality matters a lot.” Doesn’t that imply that if you’re impressive But most of you aren’t impressive, so that’s irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:14 PM
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I was confused as to why men were being singled out for this. Because theyre hypocrites who project,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:13 PM
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But it’s such a gender neutral thing Not according to guys here. Do you ever stop to think what value you bring to others? I dont bitch and blame other people for my problems, so why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:12 PM
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That’s a massive red flag if people literally don’t want to spend a single second wanting to know a person. That’s the type of thing I hear from a guy who’s masturbating in public or having some sort of mental breakdown that gets reported to the authorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:10 PM
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Meanwhile women call out men that go abroad And? Most men don't have access to 4B women And? What is the argument here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:09 PM
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A New York mayor addressed Male Loneliness: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSooJyDm/ CNN even addressed it: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSoEWuwp/ The male loneliness epidemic has hit mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:07 PM
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I don’t know where you’re getting this belief from that women are putting up with awfulness for sex like men are. Women don’t even orgasm at the same rate men do, so to think we’re going to put up with an asshole who most likely isn’t making sex feel good is fucking hilarious. Getting dick is not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:01 PM
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It is a behavioural problem but it doesn’t make one single if there hot and/or successful you even pointed this out yourself That is irrelevant to most of you because of you will never get that type of value. That’s all I’m going to say at this point, because I’m getting tired of having to say the same thing over and over again in this same argument. I don’t give a fuck if you want to blame the blue pill or whatever the fuck reason. That is irrelevant, most of you don’t have the value for your p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:52 PM
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Every time we converse, you seem possessed by the idea that whiners are subhuman scum They're usually bigots, so yes. That's not taking accountability for failure It is. You have no right to be a bigot, especially over your own problems. It's a derivative position from your idea that not everyone is worthy of love or respect, It's a sense of entitlement to think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:07 PM
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The thing is, you could easily mirror this in the opposite gender When it comes to this sub, not really. Women dont tolerate awfulness for sex like they do. And everyone knows gold diggers exists, but guys here dont want to spend the money. They are willing to tolerate someone they don't like for sex and money, and wish men felt the same way. I know that's a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:04 PM
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Assertiveness and confidence dont mean much if women see you like Belle saw Gaston. Also, a guy has to ACTUALLY BE KIND, not just claim he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:03 PM
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Charlie Sheen’s example does show that personality is not the most important thing as it often said to be. Because his talent gave people more money. What? Are you making other people more money? men calling out women for often caring much less about personality Hypocrisy because those guys dont care about personality, that's why they're only around women who also dont care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:27 PM
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Do you know what a Motte and Bailey defense is? Every time we converse, it typically ends with people are suppose to coddle whiners who wont do a damn thing to fix their issues. Because I didn't say accountability was the problem, You're calling it anti-feminist. Every time I bring up accountability, you always want to argue about it. I said that demanding everyone consider what value they bring to their relationships is problematic. Not only accountability issue but also a sense of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:26 PM
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and people don’t have set “value” - that’s all up to the beholder. If everyone smells like shit, check your shoe. If these guys weren't the problem, they wouldn't be complaining about little success they're having or how every woman they know is shit.. you can’t just say “women are more valuable I didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:24 PM
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Correct and if you don’t bring value elsewhere then no one gives a shit about your personality in the first place. y He was a drug addicted jackass. If you think that's not a personality problem, then it is certainly a behavioral problem. when the hot asshole somehow is never single Because shallow women want him. You wanting shallow women is a personal problem. unimpressive men with great personalities are usually the guys lining up to be the beta sometime in the future. So it's not that they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:21 PM
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I said your solution was anti-feminist. Claiming something is anti-feminist because it involves male accountability is not gonna work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:17 PM
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I have heard women talk like that...they're conventionally attractive and always popular with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:15 PM
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I think your post would have more of an impact if it was gender neutral. I've never seen Female Loneliness Epidemic being talked about in the news. I have never heard women make a female equivalent of Andrew Tate popular. I haven't seen women making society their enemy based on their dating life being unsuccessful. Also, this sub is filled with men being hypocritical and projecting their own problems onto others. If they can't handle being called out, oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:14 PM
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The fact is there are tons of these women Because there's 4 billion females. If you want the fake shallow ones, THAT IS ON YOU. that’s who many of them are left with, That means he's low value himself and the women who aren't fake and shallow dont want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:10 PM
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Nothing like advocating for gender equality by making everyone insecure about their worth as a person. If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoe. If guys are gonna bitch so much about being lonely and how it's some epidemic, some people are gonna look into it. It's not our problem idiots wanted to cry about how lonely they are and people didn't merely respond with pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:09 PM
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Guys, the gender who succesfully cracked down on sexy fictional women in media feels like they're under attack for having "preferences" They didn't crack down. They just stopped catering to men who think with their dicks 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:07 PM
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Maybe OP should've clarified her definition of "dating" because apparently it seems to be a difficult concept. It's difficult because they dont like admitting they bring nothing of value and will do nothing to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:05 PM
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Is that what men bring to the table in dating? That's why they bring to the table and thats why they're mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:05 PM
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The genesis of this whole debate is women downplaying the extent to which some women tolerate behavior which they explicitly verbalize having standards against Who CARES? Why would you want those women? Why are you guys so obsessed with fake women? Why do you want them? Is is because they're extremely attractive? So yes, personality matters, but not as much as women pretend it does, Sounds more like you and the other guys here really have a thing for shallow fake fickle women. That's a personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:03 PM
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That men do this more? They PRETEND they dont. Like with bitching about women only wanting Chad, it's obvious those same guys are chasing Stacy. They just pretend Stacy is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:01 PM
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Is this not applicable to when like the most mid woman you have ever met in your life only wants a 666 dude? The only women I have ever seen claim shit like that are conventionally attractive. It's just guys here personally dont think they're hot. Every time guys here show me women being shallow and mean to men not in their preferences, those women are definitely not average looking/ For example, a guy here showed me this video seeing how mean women are to short men. All those women are conventi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:00 PM
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This is exactly the exact same situation that men are finding themselves in, when they say that dating is just not worth it. Then they can stop complaining about a Male Loneliness Epidemic and stop influencing incels to think everyone else is being mean and cruel to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:56 PM
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Women spent the better part of the last two decades bitterly complaining about male preferences This is how men here think is okay to act when a woman doesn't fit their preference: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_ke-Ep2Gu1E
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:55 PM
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Like yeah, duh, everyone knows this. They certainly dont act like they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:50 PM
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The reason why I made it more about guys because guys have been more loud about this issue than women, even getting national news attention about the Male Loneliness Epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:50 PM
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You're arguing against a position very few people actually hold Yeah, the redpill, which most men dont like either. You also keep switching between casual sex and relationships as if they're the same thing No, I didn’t. The red pill does that, which is why they’re constantly confused. The biggest issue is the assumption that men "have nothing of value." A lot of men don’t have anything of value, that’s why they’re complaining that they’re always alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:48 PM
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You mean the overwhelming evidence everywhere in society where every single story about love is basically how the hero is a great guy who slays the dragon and gets the girl? You mean the media MADE BY MEN for male consumption? So women didn’t lie to men, it’s you guys lying to each other. You talked about the average man, most men don’t bitch about these things. The average man isn’t going around blaming women for a belief from FICTION MADE BY MEN. The evidence where women continually say they j…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:00 PM
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You can always find exceptions to everything. The question is then, are the experiences of the men you liked, representative of the experiences of the average man? And the answer is, no, they're not. And there it is. It’s not that you want people to listen to men, is that you want people to listen to the men that agrees with you. You can keep picking all the exceptions you like Those guys don’t complain about this shit. And most guys in the west think the red pill and their beliefs are stupid an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:51 PM
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Because if you want men to listen to women's lived experiences, then women are going to have to start listening to men's lived experiences too. Do you still have that same attitude when this is what guys are saying about men’s dating problems? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUrDRq/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUYvjn/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEU82XR/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUYreQ/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEUFr2U/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSEU8JXv/ Do their experiences count?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:25 AM
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They think her very presence was rude, not understanding how bigoted that sounds https://youtube.com/shorts/_ke-Ep2Gu1E?si=EMjB3p7TIL2RxqXr But you making the jump from "well I showed this video to guys online" to"therefore men have tons of options on dating" They just fuck it up because they’re assholes. Look, do you want men to listen to women's lived experiences Guys here swear that women told them being nice would get them laid, and I’m still waiting for that evidence. Guys here have claimed…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:06 AM
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Men do not have that luxury You say that, but guys here certainly act like they have options. For example, I showed a video of a guy on a dating show who ruined his dating chances because he was rude to one of the contestants. Five out of seven remaining women immediately rejected him. Most guys here saw absolutely nothing wrong with what the guy did. So clearly guys do have that luxury, they just blame everyone else for the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:21 PM
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Copy and paste specifically where I said it. Copy and paste that paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:43 PM
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You do it by constantly saying you only meet asshole men How does my post prove your claim. I dont see what you claim I made that claim ANYWHERE.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:31 PM
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Again women more often then not don't view it this way The women doing the activity clearly don’t give a fuck. And that makes her valuable to men. Plenty of sluts get married. It just depends on their standards and their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:26 PM
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OK, then you do it. what’s supposed to be the proper way of doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:23 PM
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Where have I said that? I don’t remember saying that?. Find where I said that since apparently you know that more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:23 PM
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To say the talking points you're using are mainly online just like the ones you find in incel culture? So you were just going to ignore what I said about older women constantly saying the same thing to younger women? Really doesn’t sound like you wanna be logical whatsoever. This is definitely you being emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:22 PM
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Let me do the longer version of what I said: Looking in my circles i know these women are not shallow, fickle, and stupid... but when it comes to hookups and quick flings they are willing to be significantly more superficia “Theyre not shallow…..but they're shallow”. Then your point falls apart, most women who have casual sex are these types of women Most women dont have casual sex like that. In fact, they seldom like it enough to repeat it. You can't do anything in life unless you take a little…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:21 PM
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Looking in my circles i know these women are not shallow, fickle, and stupid... but when it comes to hookups and quick flings they are willing to be significantly more superficial Not only did you describe them as shallow, they’re clearly stupid if they blindly trust a guy just because he’s hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:09 PM
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You mean generalizing an entire group I already addressed this in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:07 PM
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Elaborate then,. How do I do that? Or that you guys just don’t like I’m constantly criticizing shitty men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:06 PM
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Nope, you're making weird terminally online You just insulted me without any explanation why you would accuse me of that. That sounds quite emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:05 PM
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This is the most overused phrase Facts don’t stop being facts just because you don’t like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:05 PM
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They already do blindly trust men they dont know if they are attractive enough Its not a coincidence everytime you guys talk about women, she’s always shallow, fickle, and stupid. what world are you living in where that doesn't happen? Safety has always been a massive concern with women. Just because you only surround yourselves with women who have the survival skills of a toddler doesn’t mean that’s the average woman. how are they consistently getting with such awful guys You seem to be the one…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:59 PM
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Why is the fact that chad will have sex with average to below average women and not offer commitment seen as a crazy revelation then? Right, why is that a surprise to you? What you guys don’t like to hear is that it shows those women have alot of valuable, typically because women are not in to hook ups like that. Because if enough women were into hookups, Chad would not need to lower his looks standards. They’re valuable because they’re willing to do what most women aren’t willing to do, which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:51 PM
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No, and i don't either but, at some point you have to take some risk with people Sounds like you are saying women should just blindly trust a guy they don’t know. Otherwise, it makes the man feel bad about himself. Then i started actually going out and Unless you’ve known this person prior to dating, casual usually means you barely know them and you’re looking for something short term. So thinking you’re going to get casual sex just because most men aren’t terrible people is really stupid. Then …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:42 PM
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Correlation does not equal causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:39 PM
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Yet, they persist in an activity I don’t know why you guys keep confusing some women with all women and it’s really weird
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:38 PM
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the women in question doesn't want other men though that's below her worth Why are you guys treating obvious facts as a new revelation you came up with? so she wants Chad You guys only being around women who want Chad is your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:38 PM
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I know there won't be any reasonable or cohesive response All you have been doing is responding very emotional to me, including trying to insult me instead of actually debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:35 PM
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You guys are calling me terminally online over things women have been saying for generations. It’s like calling Elon Muk an incel. If you’re going to insult people, you have to actually make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:35 PM
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a minority of people So are rapists and murderers, so do you think women should leave their cups unattended, walk alone at night, and tells guys their address and when theyre home alone? If you are getting subpar sex For women that’s 33% of casual sex resulting orgasm. Getting emotional over the fact that women aren’t going to keep going through a bad deal is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:11 PM
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Yeah you're parroting old talking points Oh no! Someone’s repeating facts! I'm not defensive You are giving me emotional responses over me giving facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:41 PM

Correlation does not equal causation. And I also even brought up the right wing men who aren’t doing well are typically not religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:38 PM
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Not just my experiences and that of many sexually active people who don't go by stereotypes of "women hate sex" You know, it would help to actually read my post instead of getting offended that I said most women don’t have a good time when it comes to casual sex. And not really Youre acting oddly defensive about it, especially over shit I didn’t say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:37 PM
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Nope, you're making weird terminally online talking points. Its weird you think this is some online problem and not a problem throughout generations, even though older women have constantly warned the younger generation about these things. When did this topic become terminally online? Please elaborate. I have a negative orgasm gap and I get women off more than vise versa so most of them So this is an emotional response to me, saying most men suck in bed when it comes to the casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:33 PM
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Damn sounds like you have hang ups about sex It’s so weird seeing you guys get so reactive when any guy gets criticized even when it’s a fair criticism. I have never gotten this way over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:26 PM

Because theyre more religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:25 PM
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From your post, it is not like the more desirable men appreciate her sexual attention either, How are you defining desirable? Able to have sex isnt really that hard for adults. The guy has to be Quasimoto or have a mental disability for his genetics to be the problem. What you are actually complaining about is that men who you deem unworthy still want sex. May you please copy and paste where I said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:24 PM
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The shittiness is irrelevant You thinking personality isnt a big deal is not reality. A 10/10 guy may treat a 2/10 woman wonderfully yet most likely temporary. If he actually treats her well, then they both agreed it was temporary thing, so who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:11 PM

By raw numbers conservatives are more married, more reproductive, and happier Because theyre OLDER. They are simply not struggling to anything like the degree left wing men Most young people are liberals,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:09 PM
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Not really the real person with leverage is the one with the least to lose You guys really just don’t like acknowledging the way you find ugly are actually desirable to other men. So now you’re just making up weird definitions of leverage. Oh, the women in question ethier won’t fuck after dates 1-2 Oh, so we’re pretending men dont find women who fuck them by date 2 to be valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:08 PM
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Artificial advantages through the complete educational and early career pipeline and now just drooling in the feeling of superiority. Explain how thats a strawman for me to claim “ Oh no, women have inflated egos for......wanting an educated man with a job! How dare they?!” Whats the difference? That men's preferences are sxstemstically lowered while women's are artificially increased and even encouraged? Are men also focusing on career and education. Because for it to be a double standard, it h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:05 PM
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…..its called VETTING. And no sex before marriage wasn’t that effective either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:57 PM
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Weird, women get nothing for casual sex but still engage on it Actually reading would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:57 PM
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You need to find better men honestly “Omg you met an asshole?! No one has EVER met assholes before!” That’s a weird position to have, but OK. There are lots of men that would freely give women all the time If you’re not going to read what I wrote, then there’s no point in continuing this conversation. I already addressed this, please actually read.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:56 PM
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Who the hell says men love unconditionally? Men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:22 PM
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You’re rambling about bringing value rather than addressing my point that attempting to lock down someone who has clear leverage over you is delusional. You guys underestimate the type of leverage guys need for women to tolerate being treated like shit. That’s always been my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:35 PM
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Then you should change your post to say, “Women who only want sex have ALOT of value.” Oh, I did talk about how the sexual marketplace was totally fair because men want casual sex more than women. Obviously, that made men here very mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:33 PM
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That leverage men have is exactly the reason women have inflated egos It’s weird that you guys are assuming people want somebody of no value to them. That says a lot about a guy who has nothing of value to other women. No wonder this sub doesn’t like it when I bring up that topic. That’s so entitled to think you can just come into a relationship with zero value to another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:31 PM
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Valuable in the sexual dating marketplace, not in the marriage marketplace Value is value. That depends more on her personality and standards. You’re delusional if you think a 2/10 woman is going to get proposed by a 10/10 guy. If she able to get Chad’s attention, she’ll be able to get less attractive men’s attention. Now whether or not she’ll take that Attention and make it long-term, entirely depends on her personality and her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:26 PM
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It’s so awesome, men addressing the male loneliness epidemic: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSTgkgyg/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:04 PM
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The men who women find attractive are NOT looking to date Most men date and fuck, so…… Those women don't want to hook up, but have to if they are going to get these higher guys to comment. Only a very very dumb woman think that’s going to work. I am just pointing out that women who are legit trying to get a good guy Notice how you’re bringing in things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. It really shows you guys cannot handle hearing that women you don’t value have value to other men…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:23 PM
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I'd argue though that a 10+ % difference politically is pretty significant That doesn’t show the genders are separating. It just shows there’s a fringe group on both sides. My point is that the problem is exaggerated and that this gender war is really not that big. It’s relevant enough to talk about, but it’s not big compared to everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:22 PM
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Those women don't want to hook up, but have to if they are going to get these higher guys to comment. No they dont and that rarely happens. That’s why most women don’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:17 PM
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Women don't care about the BS value of sleeping with men. Hence, the ones that do have ALOT of value. Just because you guys wanna talk shit about them doesn't change that they're quite popular. Women want to date, men want to sleep with them and not date most times. Men ALSO want to date. It's just a larger percentage want hookups than the percentage of women. Hence, when a woman does value hookups, she's very popular with guys. That is why in 2026 so many women are stuck in "what are we". That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:04 PM
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My other point is that that the 10% of guys who can't get a woman are not only conservative, but not religious. So they're having the worst of both worlds. Those are also the type of guys who like pretending they're not MAGA/conservative to get liberal women's attention. Republican women are more likely to be religious than republican men. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:45 PM
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I think we can have a country 50/50 politically, but still have women disproportionately progressive, and men disproportionately conservative, and I think that would affect the matching no? That's why I said "I think people overstate the political divide, because it's only by 10%. Thing is, the 10% conservative males are having problems, especially when they're not that religious.". I dont think you realize how similar men and women really are politically. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:24 PM
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The issue is you're lying to yourself. You clearly care. When I dont care about something, I dont even bring it outside once if someone keeps thinking I'm caring. and i don't want to get into the amount of dumb women who have mental health issues in the US Says alot about your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:09 PM
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Im didn’t want to insult anyone here From the way you're describing the average woman, she's just extremely desirable to men. so there’s no need to dig deeper for the average female user Because you'd be more disappointed with the actually average woman, not the average woman you want super super super bad. It's not a coincidence every 'average girl' this sub talks about would be a dream come true for a guy to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:01 PM
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Someone can be perfectly pleasant and still have values that are fundamentally incompatible with another person's no? That doesn't make things more difficult unless your values are extreme. I think if people increasingly treat politics and gender roles as dealbreakers, But what politics? Because in the USA there's about an equal about of people who are liberal and conservative, with most people in the middle. then I think compatibility shrinks regardless of whether Bob is "insufferable" You seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:00 PM
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Women usually don’t even think about all of this or scientifically try to understand the market, they’re bored download the app get attention of thousands of guys then pick the hottest dude, enjoy the entertainment, attention , validation, sex, then ghost the guy because they have thousands others in their DMs You're not only talking about a Stacy, you're basically talking about a horny noncommittal one. You might as well say you only know women like Megan Thee Stallion. Their standard assumptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:56 PM
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That doesn't really address when women are popular with men and guys are saying her ego is inflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:42 PM
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Oh no, women have inflated egos for......wanting an educated man with a job! How dare they?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:41 PM
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Otherwise they wouldn't constantly be screeching about "where are all the good men?" They dont. Now the ones YOU TALK TO do, but that says more about who you keep around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:39 PM
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So men are gonna have to determine what’s more important to them- the bullshit ideas they consume (mostly on social media) or getting dates, sex and relationships. Alot will not make that choice and blame it on women and society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:22 PM
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I think online dating makes everything easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:22 PM
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I think people overstate the political divide, because it's only by 10%. Thing is, the 10% conservative males are having problems, especially when they're not that religious. I think the end result is that young men and women may increasingly disagree on issues that directly affect long-term relationship. No, I would say it's because like 1 in 10 men are insufferable and dont give people a reason to tolerate their foolishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:21 PM
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"Personality matters more for unattractive or average looking women" Copy and paste where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:09 PM
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First alf all, you're not even explaining who's ABC is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:06 PM
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Funny when the dating market we're more even 30 years ago but somehow it was bad and a huge social conditioning started to lower boys standards and increase the acceptance of average and below average women to be more seen as attractive. Because men dont have the leverage they use to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:04 PM
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Men give just as much value to women as women give them. Companionship, support, physical intimacy. Alot of guys definitely dont give companionship and support. Also, we're talking about even the first few dates, no one's getting all of that unless they're with a very desperate person. Many pretty women date ugly broke guys. Rarely. Either the guy aint that ugly, or he's match some dysfunction she has like drug addiction or crime. Many pretty women date beautiful broke men. That means he's reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:04 PM
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idk why you think any of this makes me angry, See how you're still writing paragraphs on this shit no one else really brought up? congrats i guess but as i said most women don't see value in that. The women willing to have casual sex alot DO see value in that, especially since she's low supply high demand. when women look for long-term partnership, their short-term dating results have absolutely nothing to do with it in reality, Most women know that. You're only talking about a very few dumb wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:56 PM
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What the issue is, this is not an issue with Partner A, "Why aren't you making the same mistake with ME?" That's a red flag to think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:42 PM
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An ex said that she hates giving head, though she has had great experiences and a great deal of fun giving head in the past she wouldn’t for me only vaginal or even anal sex. DID YOU ASK why she stopped? Scenario 2 would most likely be making her current partner wait when she has sex faster with other men in her past. This one is also weird because it seems like what other men got early you suddenly have to wait for. though she has had great experiences and a great deal of fun giving head in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:41 PM
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Value is value, which is what we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:37 PM
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her mate value is different in both scenarios, She is still valuable. if you don't get how that's relevant You guys claim she has an inflated ego. If she's valuable, why shouldn't it be inflated? women themselves frequently assert that being valued for what's between their legs is not actually valuable to them But to some women it is, so she's giving away a low supply high demand product, easy sex. She's still valuable regardless how angry that makes you. and no i don't care personally You're si…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:00 PM
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You just claimed me asking "What value does he give those women? Especially if he’s not willing to spend alot of money on her." is not relevant to a guy preferring to go after hot women. You just proved you dont want to think about what value men give to women and this is a reoccurring problem in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:58 PM
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More so than the equivalent man? Absolutely. The problem is you guys have deemed her ugly, but clearly other men dont. You guys love calling dating a market place until the market disagrees with you. It's not men "underestimating women", it's shame. If she's desirable and you think she's ugly, you are underestimating her value because you think she's ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:55 PM
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they also have to learn to acknowledge that to them 'having sex = receiving love'. I dont think it's most men because they know how unappealing that is to women. They'd rather wait than lose the entire chance of something long term. The problem with the specific guy we're talking about. They do acknowledge they think sex = love. The problem is that their love is piss poor, so they're always confused why they're not valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:53 PM
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The other issue is that male promiscuity at higher levels does not discriminate, (more of a numbers mindset). Men are often portrayed as dogs, but we are more discerning than you think. Pick one. You can't have both. Your inability to discern between different types of validation is objectively wrong. You didn't take about different types of validation. Let me repeat myself. Also, your example is that YOU didn't like that popular bitch, not that she wasn't popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:49 PM
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Specifically, they underestimate how attractive a guy has to be to get the special treatment they want. Which is why they get upset when a woman they think it beneath them and should be grateful for his presence.... still expect him to act in a way he had only reserve for the women he deemed attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:38 PM
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"patriarchy", "decentering men", I'm gonna only reply to the stuff that's relevant to the conversation, not you complaining about women in general. Being specific isn't really the point. Right, the point is you guys dont like that the women you think are ugly as hell are actually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:37 PM
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I think men should pick (date, ltr, marriage) women who are sexually into them. The problem is they want women to worship their presence. I say this because I know that men value sex more than anything else....having sex to them equals receiving love... They call it love, but they actually want validation and worship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:30 PM
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I have "had access" to attractive women and declined because I was disgusted by their behavior. Let me make my words bigger since you're not reading. Also, your example is that YOU didn't like that popular bitch, not that she wasn't popular. Again this is not genuine interest. It is. You just dont like the women you deem ugly and insufferable are popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:28 PM
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Not my experience. But you just said men fuck ugly women. If women were into casual sex like men, there would be no reason to fuck ugly women because the man's looks match would be available to him. Algorithmically curated simping is not organic. Simps still count, regardless how much you hate them propping up a girl you find ugly. Liking how a woman's ass looks in a photo is not the same as liking the woman IRL. If it wasn't translating to real life, why would you guys care? Also, your example …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:20 PM
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The real issue is Simping. If she got ALOT of simps she's popular. Doesnt matter that you hate those simps, SHE'S POPULAR. The other issue is that male promiscuity at higher levels does not discriminate, Because they can't. Because women aren't interested in casual sex like men are, so men have to lower their looks standards to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:13 PM
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the issue is that short-term and long-term mate value are very different for women. She's valuable, regardless, if she has alot go guys lining up to be with her. i don't care personally. You clearly care, because the distinction wasn't necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:09 PM
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I know some average looking women and they don’t get any attention. We even have guys claiming "Ugly women getting Chad's sexual attention makes nothing". If she's able to get a 10/10 man's sexual attention, that means she's very valuable in the dating market. That definitely implies less attractive men want her ass too. Now whether or not she wants those less attractive men is up to her, but how the fuck do they think she has an inflated ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:07 PM
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The dating market is not the relationship market. It still requires dating. The ego leads to a hyper inflated According to guys here these women with inflated egos are popular. Why wouldn't she? SHE'S POPULAR. Women get a lot of attention, that doesn't translate to actual investment. If she's popular, lIKE GUYS HERE KEEP EXPLAINING, she'll get it if she's not unrealistically picky. I went clubbing with this bruja, and let me tell you, she was the most insufferable human being I ever met. I Irrel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:04 PM
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Refer back to my entire post for a counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:02 PM
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most women do indeed have options That's not the same thing as what guys here are describing. She doesn’t want him precisely because he’s as ugly as her Then he needs to humble himself immediately. she also believes there a chad or a wealth guy around the corner Just because she'll allow Chad to disrespect her doesn't mean she'll tolerate it from her looks match. she has no leverage over Chad Money or quick sex IS LEVERAGE. Also, if she's getting Chad's attention at all, that means she does have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:54 PM
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It’s not inflated if she’s desired. It doesn’t matter that you personally don’t find her desirable. If she’s desirable just because she sleeps around, that still makes her desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:30 PM
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If she’s able to get a bunch of desperate men, then she’s clearly desirable. And if she truly is not good-looking, then they like her because she’s very sexual. Yeah, women are that interested in casual sex, so women who are are in low supply and very high demand. Hence, she has a lot of leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:23 PM
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Right, so she liked his personality despite the flaws. With this also goes back to compatibly. Are you making sure you even have anything in common with these women? Because explaining you’re a great catch while going after women who are also great catches is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:21 PM
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I noticed you didn’t really bring up personality, income, and compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:15 PM
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not really if you actually consider the words. You bringing up an oppressed minority. if everyone mistreating you You are not an oppressed minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:12 PM
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It can’t be inflated if she has options. Like I said, it seems you guys are upset that you have deemed her ugly and it turns out she is average. Or a woman you think is average turns out she’s attractive to other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:09 PM
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It’s a bad demonstration that implies these guys think they’re oppressed. It’s actually trivializing what the oppressed minorities actually went through.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:58 PM
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If it’s enough to where she has a lot of options, that is her worth the dating market. Just because you think she’s ugly as hell doesn’t mean the dating market sees her as ugly as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:48 PM
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That’s a very big problem with men, they don’t sit there and reflect what value they give to women. They just think about what they want from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:45 PM
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Imagine thinking you’re oppressed because people don’t like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:44 PM
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Wrong on both accounts. It depends on what the person is looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:36 PM
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Andrew tate preaches to very very small minority of men 1 in 6 boys had a positive opinion of Tate. Thats not small. Being popular enough to speak to the president son is not small.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:35 PM
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You can have an inflated ego AND be worth more in, ugh, the terminally online notion of the "dating market" Guys here actually didn’t say whether or not they were talking about online or off-line actually. Perhaps they need to be more specific in their whining next time. All the while, the message to men is that they are worthless Where did I say that? I said you guys underestimate women’s value in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:34 PM
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Simps isn't popularity Yes it is. Simps still count as a group of people. Popularity is having a social circle that's comprised of other attractive No, it’s not. Popular means you’re well liked my group of people. You guys just want to redefine what popular is because you don’t want to acknowledge the women you’re into are more attractive that you want to admit. Women have the upper hand in choosing men because the market favors their delusional egos They cant be delusional if theyre popular. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:28 PM
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They simply stop dating. Guys end up making Andrew Tate popular and convince a lot of guys that “a boy ignored by the village will burn it to feel its warmth”. It is not the same thing whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:25 PM
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It doesn't matter how attractive is a woman if she will reject you at the same rate If everyone’s rejecting him, he’s the problem. Might as well only go for the pretty ones What value does he give those women? Especially if he’s not willing to spend alot of money on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:15 PM
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Its mainly guys here complaining about their loneliness and how its unfair. “Male Loneliness Epidemic” wouldnt be a thing if those would STFU and not cause problems in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:13 PM
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Popular isn't "has a lot of simps". Yes it is. You guys just don’t like to acknowledge that because that means you have to notice that your standards are more unrealistic than you think it is. Women overcompensating for their defect It’s not that they have higher standards, is that they’re more willing to let someone treat them like shit if it means they get the dream guy they always wanted, looks wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:03 PM
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What you said had nothing to do with this post. So why are you complaining? You guys really need to notice when you’re being hypocrites. Because it gets annoying when the red pill lacks such self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:55 PM
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Just because market favors you doesn’t mean you have to act like a dickhead For most of the red pill, that is the point. That’s why they absolutely hate when someone says their personality is the problem. They don’t want their personality to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:51 PM
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OP never mentioned Trump Imagine talking about passport Bros, and not knowing about Trump’s 2 out of 3 wives. so even if he is this unlikable That’s more of a big deal than you guys like to believe. The problem is you guys want the pretty privilege for that not to matter. Most of you will not get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:48 PM
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That worth is virtual, not real Then the issue is a lot of guys aren’t touching grass. Having an army of simp is not a question of top 20% attractiveness but of behavior, simps stick to someone who is open to receiving that attention The most popular girl has never not been pretty. Bellow average women are insecure and as a result far pickier than average That’s not how insecurity works. The ugly women who usually allow guys to treat them like shit, those guys are typically attractive. Those guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:45 PM
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The issue with dateing is that too many men and too many women are dateing for status rather than dateing for fun or companionship. That’s always been the issue with dating. It’s just that a lot of guys now have a lot less status than they used to because being a provider is no longer that impressive anymore. People would be much more happy if they were willing to compromise a little bit more to get a good person with a matching personality. But they don’t want that. They want special treatment,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:42 PM
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I don’t think it’s about look standards for men at all. It’s more so they’re not hot enough for the nasty attitude they want to get away with. They’re complaining about height because there are women with a height fetish who will sleep with the man only because he has height. That is the type of reaction they want from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:34 PM
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men now have first hand knowledge of the absolute misery women can easily wreck upon them from social shaming to taking their children and money Sounds like guys were super stupid. men are very aware that most women don't really like them The guys who were experiencing this are just not likable. so now that we have both genders suspicious and untrusting of the other we simply have far less relationships Then why is there always a complaint over male loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:29 PM

Literally guys here, particulary Eblademonk have calmly said He is consistently a hypocrite, and he has consistently showed he doesn’t like accountability. I have explained my reasons why I would claim this on the replies I gave him. And when I call him out for saying something that sounds ridiculous or encouraging a victim complex, he tries to gaslight me into claiming he didn’t say it, even though I keep copying and pasting what he said Word for Word. Also, when he tried to explain, that’s not…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:56 AM
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Yes, they can, and if guys want women so bad, maybe a lot of you need to stop being assholes to women. Especially when if you live in the west where women don’t have to put up with that shit anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:54 AM

With a woman such as yourself with this much sheer lack of self awareness You guys aren’t even able to properly explain your views or how you came to certain conclusions, so I don’t really see a reason to care. A lot of guys hete even called my writing novels, which tells me how bad the education is of everyone else here if an essay looks like a novel..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:16 PM
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The exotic/novelty factor can play into a genuine attraction advantage for some men They still have to be conventionally attractive for that to work. Other laundry lists of demands from women in the developed world The developing world are typically more traditional and expect more money from the ‘exotic Westerner’.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:09 PM
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75% of women in the US are overweight or obese That means 1/4 isnt. If having only 25% of the female population puts them at a severe disadvantage, there’s more problems than he refuses to admit to. plus the fact that a healthy bmi woman is like a minor celebrity in the dating market. That means he’s way less attractive than he thinks he is. Having a bad personality will put him at a severe disadvantage if all he has is “not fat”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:03 PM
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That said absolutely nothing except “I will never be the problem, dont expect accountability from me ever”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:01 PM
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If the only men you attract have that tragic of character flaws, I think it requires a deeper look in the mirror. You argue like a child. How interesting. You thought that was a cute little comeback but as soon as I match your energy, now it’s childish. Thank you for proving my point. When you guys say ridiculous things, it sounds reasonable. But when women repeat your words or actions back to you, then it sounds stupid and childish. Not knowing whether you want Stabucks or Dunkin is a lot diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:59 PM
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Women can still be what I described You tried to make it about women in general. You didn't even want to address guys can just be stupid and deluded until I brought it up. Not knowing whether you want Stabucks or Dunkin is a lot different than not knowing which guy you want to falsely accuse of SA for social validation Shit, you talking about me only knowing guys with tragic flaws, why do you only know Amber Heard? Guys if you only know crazy vindictive women, you are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:35 PM
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Maybe those men do have options at home. Most guys here talking about passport bros talk about how local women by home didn't like them. Maybe they're just more attracted to a prettier, younger, slimmer, more feminine looking If they can't get that in their country, they're totally using their money in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:30 PM
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It's always interesting that you guys only understand how bad most guys here sound when a WOMAN explains the problem. However, that still wont stop you from blaming everything on women despite you acknowledging men can actually be that stupid and deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:24 PM
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"No one likes me.....it's everyone else that's the problem." Popular saying in my country: If you met one asshole, you just met an asshole. If you're meeting assholes ever, YOU are the asshole. This is the current day, where are way more accepting of anyone. Even 600 pound women and furries get a lover. If a guy is really not getting anyone to want him, he's absolutely the problem. Even ugly guys can get into a polyamorous relationship if they're really in the trenches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:11 PM
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Personality matters. They DON'T want their personality to matter. They want women to want them DESPITE their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:08 PM
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Physical attraction is extremely important, Getting an international sugar baby isn't gonna fix that problem. You don't want to be the unattractive man who only choices to lead with his wallet. That's what they're doing. If they struggle with women in their own country, going out of country isn't gonna fix unless you wanna be like Trump and use your money to get a pretty girl. Getting in shape and going somewhere where women If they were actually gonna do that, they wouldn't need to be passport …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:07 PM
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If people dont like a guy's company, then he's the problem and why he's not finding anyone in his own country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:03 PM
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Semi-disagree, because money. And I wonder when did that mean "truly desired".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:02 PM
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Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west. You guys thinking Trump was truly desired by his wives is hilarious. Even his first wife said sleeping with him felt like SA. we are all limited by our physical attributes That's just what guys tell themselves to not admit they're just unlikable. Look at 90 Day Fiancé. It's usually a creepy American going after an attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:59 PM
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Dating Advice For Men Doesn't Work Because Women Don't Actually Know What THOSE MEN want, because they LIE. Usually they "what do you want in a guy", which is NOT what they specifically want to know. Just like they say dumb shit like "How to talk to girls" when they mean "how to flirt". Also, these guys still can't explain how they were lied to by people. No one told them "If you're a good boy, women will fuck you as a reward". Not a single person told them that, so they easily will lie to thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:56 PM

Infant male genital mutilation being legal all over the world Who's doing the procedure? Who encourages it? even in countries that have banned the same thing for females Which countries was FGM happening in?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:45 PM

"Women dont care about men's issues!" First of all, does it involve your genitals not being touched? Second, are you trying to find a way to blame everything on women? Thirdly, is it ACTUALLY a serious problem or a first world problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:29 PM
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Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips You mean the women spreading STDs and going on sex tours to pick up underage males? Imagine being confused why there is outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:23 PM
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Oh, you mean r/MGTOW, where misogynists would say fucked up shit about women and got banned for it? For example, laughing at a woman's house getting burned down and victim blaming a rape victim because she went to nightclub?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:21 PM
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other guys and men from this sub are two different things Then that's something to talk to whoever else is in this sub. Figure out "what men do" and come to an agreement first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:19 PM
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Thats not a gendered thing, Seems men are way more willing to do that, especially hearing what guys here say. They just dont want these shitty dynamics exposed IMO, on either end of this. Again, according to guys here, as long as sex is the result, they're fine with the shitty dynamics. They'll simply blame others for the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:19 PM

When did I claim that there’s something wrong with women if a woman isn’t like that? Implying women don’t date guys they desire just because they don’t act like they’re in porn is extremely insulting. I’m just saying that if a woman did something like that in the past but didn’t do it with me If she had subpar sex with men she hooked up with and wanted to only sleep with guys she’ll want a relationship with, that has nothing to do with desire. It’s extremely insulting for guys to think a woman h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:12 PM
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Traditional masculinity links male identity to dating success, They also deeply hate feminists so they dont want the gender norms to change either. So they trapped themselves and utter misery wanted to uphold a standard they themselves cannot accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:54 PM
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everyone has a type that is like 1/10 girls. According to this sub, not they dont. So you better clarify with the other guys first. Also, someone not being your type does not give you the right to talk shit about them and expect no one to call you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:43 PM
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Pump and dumps exists. You just contradicted that they like each other if you’re explaining a guy has to lie to get what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:41 PM

Most guys aren’t attractive enough to get that kind of reaction from women unless she’s naturally just sexually active in general. If you guys are just looking for sex ASAP, go ahead. But stop acting like it’s something wrong with women because most of them don’t act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:35 PM
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Men could give plenty of things they would like to get out of a relationship The ones who actually want relationships, not guys here. Thats silly. Men DO care about humor intelligence, kindness etc just like women do Not most guys here. They have admitted to choosing to be around awful insufferable people as long as they are useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:16 PM
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No, what he means is you’re supposed to be extremely horny at the very second you see a man. And if you’re not, you’re a terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:11 PM
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I’m so happy that you have basically admitted that you guys want your porn fantasies to be a reality. You guys don’t actually want women to desire you or love you, you want women to look at you for two seconds and cum a waterfall at your mere existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:10 PM
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When it is the majority of the food, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:06 PM
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You can acknowledge you are incompatible with most women Acknowledge that it’s a personal problem and not because you think women are defective. Because it’s not in anyone else’s fault but your own if you’re looking for something nearly unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:06 PM
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You can now report posts if they are suspected AI You realize people are just going to spam you with posts and comments they dont like, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:26 PM
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Because there are more substantial strategies for reducing the amounts of Karen energy Being a Karen is rarely even against the law and they have main character syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:01 PM
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Who are you holding accountable here? Reading the post helps! I'm not arguing against accountability You are, because there's no point in arguing against men being called out for their lack of accountability otherwise. It's like arguing against people laughing at Karens. If you're not pro-Karen, why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:55 PM
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Not true, in most countries most men are in favour of legalising prostitution, That's a recent thing and mainly correlating with liberalism and regulations, not because men actually wanted hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:43 PM
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Again, the issue isn't "nobody's holding these people accountable, The problem is you guys are arguing against people calling out the lack of accountability and thinking that's a good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:40 PM
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the main problem is social stigma, By men. If men actually wanted hookers, they would have made it legal in most countries. I think it's quite justified that since women in society are explained that they shouldn't get married, have children and single life is a great alternative And men STILL aren't pushing for legal prostitution, even when government officials get caught with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:36 PM
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Accountability is something that can only be imposed by power structures It's awesome you guys are admitting you dont believe in male accountability and it's something to argue against.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:34 PM
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they absolutely don't give a fuck about the well-being of a woman in a relationship That's a big part of why they get mad when video games focus LESS on sexualizing women because now they're catered to less and they can't stand that. otherwise they would no longer watch manosphere contents. In my opinion it's also why they're upset with women because the reality is much more disappointing than deluded themselves to be. Manosphere tells them 5/10 women think too highly of themselves. The real iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:31 PM
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No, I’m criticizing the person whose post I am currently responding to. Your criticism is based on me repeating what guys here say. The fact that some men originally conflate love with sex does not exempt But that was the point of me bringing it up. Quoting or paraphrasing a bad premise does not automatically mean you have successfully challenged it. "You're never gonna get that from the female population" is challenging it. You keep redirecting attention to who said it first Because your compla…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:17 PM
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It's not ironic. Men just dont want hookers because it doesn't contain love, it's not validating, and the upfront cost is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:14 PM
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They also like video games in which the female characters display an unrealistic level of nakedness, For their entertainment. They dont like when women can profit from their own sexuality. They want women to be sexualized and only benefits men. when they see on Tinder or another dating app that a girl they know has posted pictures of herself wearing an attractive miniskirt or showing a fair amount of cleavage or her underwear, they'll call her a "slut" and a "whore," Because they dont like it'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:12 PM
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So now we're in the pearl clutching phase I mean, if you call boys thinking fondly of a guy that acts like Epstein “pearl clutching” sure. While you’re at it, I guess you can go ahead and call people upset about what Epstein and Diddy did pearl clutching too. What's your thoughts on Columbine and the Nice Truck attack? What other serious topics do you label as pearl clutching?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:54 PM
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They aint gonna stop just because you told them SO? Are you thinking that’s gonna stop people from calling them out? Because it’s not. People call out terrible stupid people even if the person wants to keep being stupid and terrible. People call out Karens even when Karens still think they’re victims. What was the point of you writing this? People still hold others accountable even when they refuse to hold themselves accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:52 PM
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1 in 6 boys under 15 have a positive view on Tate. That’s a problem when that many boys think fondly of a misogynist now being investigated for sex slavery. And a lot of public mass killings have been tied to inceldom and incel forums do promote and laugh at those murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:31 PM
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Why do you care about men People tried to ignore the whinings, and it didn’t work, those men just made people like Andrew Tate popular turned and incels into an international problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:21 PM
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being repeatedly reminded that the entirety of women will never make a single compromise No, they just don’t wanna compromise with you, especially if you have nothing of valued to compromise for. There’s plenty of women willing to compromise on sex, they’re called prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:10 PM
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He’s a weirdo obsessed with the sex lives of others. Unless it harms others or has a negative effect on society, why the fuck does he care?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:08 PM
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What many men want from women they don't need to like them to get Many, not most. See, the guys who are able to get away with that usually have some sort of value to them, such as looks for money. The ones complaining the most about women, want to act like the men who have that sort of value, but do not have that value.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:06 PM
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That does not answer the criticism I’m telling you, you’re criticizing the wrong person. If you only criticize what men say when a woman repeats it, that’s on you..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:05 PM
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Examples are not connected, “I love sex but I hate the women who are the easiest to fuck” imagine thinking that’s not connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:04 PM
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Now, this goes back to people who complain how women how women dont “love unconditionally” (for sex) like men do. Thats men here conflating sex and love. That’s why whenever you bring up what they want in a relationship, the only thing they can think about is sex. They cannot tell you anything else they want out of a relationship than sex, even when they say sex is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:57 PM

No Awesome, conversation over. Bye, Come back when you actually want to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:54 PM
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Why? Read the post. Stop skimming. Don’t women and cuck men criticize “Boys will be boys Explain how that’s the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:48 PM
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But if someone says that being a slut as a man and woman is different, people lose their minds Because that behavior is still disgusting to people who aren’t like that. Both men and women. The issue is the hypocrisy with men who want to sleep around and then demand women who don’t sleep around. the reason why people complaining about something is because this something is what they value This goes back to what you were saying, it’s dumb for a man who value sex to think sluts are beneath him. Bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:47 PM
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Which is always weird why they’re always complaining why women don’t want to date them. But I get that requires social awareness alot of misogynists are too stupid to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:43 PM
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All the way from binding love to sex Copy and paste where I did that. STOP SKIMMING.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:42 PM
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They complain about it alot and if they lack social tact, which this sub does, he'll make his bitterness obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:24 AM
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The number of hoops men jump through and the stuff they put with for sex and validation That's why theyre going through hoops. That mindset is extremely undesirable. Many men will knowingly waste time and energy on women who they know that if they didn't always pay for dates and spend money on them, they wouldn't like them. That shows just how unwanted he is. It's not that "Women are lucky that men tend to have low standards and be simps" it's that those guys are low value. They find meaning and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:23 AM
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I said you way underrate men's personalities and way overrate women's personalities. Which I dont do either. You guys dont like when I say you choose to be around low quality women, usually reflecting you guys also being low quality. I am thinking the issue is guys really underestimate how attractive they have to be for enough women to tolerate their awful personality. Where's the lie. Guys here keep showing their personality is awful, especially since they blame everyone else for their problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:16 AM
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Regardless of your cherry-picked examples, you'll never get men. Most men get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:13 AM
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You guys certainly don’t act like you have limited choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:10 AM
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Here’s the thing women only entertain the men desirable enough to look for a particular type The vast majority of men get dates so it must be the best majority of men you’re talking about. Most men aren’t looking for casual short term arrangement And I noticed a big correlation of them not complaining about how hard dating is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:54 PM
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The word fickle suggests that they can't stick to a conviction or change their minds without reason. But a "looking for" doesn't have to be a conviction So theyre fickle. And the common denominator of this guy's experience is him. Yes, that’s the point of my post. "That’s what happens when you pursue something causal.“ That’s part of him being the common denominator.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:35 PM
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Reddit has made a meme of the whole “you guys are getting matches?” but then there’s how many of those matches turn into conversations, how many of those conversations are good enough to get a date There was already something like that done. Man swiped 2 million times, got 1269 chats from it and only 1 date. Even guys saw how his profile was the problem. And the fact only 1 out of 1200 wanting to meet him says ALOT about his social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:26 PM
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not gonna waste my time to try and refute this blatantly false statement. Because you can’t because you know, that’s what they actually mean. That’s why they’re always bringing up Chad because they want to be Chad. Not the same demographic of men. Where have I contradicted myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:58 PM
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This doesn't really have anything to do with being fickle You just admitted these women will claim they only want a long-term relationship and then go off to have a hook up. Theyre fickle and they dont say what they really mean for the sake of protecting their own image. I have noticed no such difference between women on apps Neither have I. Because the common denominator is me. Just like the common denominator is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:54 PM
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Another hypocrisy. So do you think not setting your profile to casual will do absolutely nothing to help not be single? “I have tried nothing and nothing has worked. Why has society wrong me?!”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:50 PM
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Besides I haven't see many men (some did said that) on this sub saying that they want to treat people like shit But they see being agreeable as a waste of time if theyre not getting laid nor do they have the social tact to understand what turns people off. The vast majority of people don’t want a person like that. A much more common sentiment is that they want feel sexually desired “TRULY sexually desired” because you guys seem to think, walking into a room means a woman is going to instantly be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:49 PM
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It's not exactly practical advice because it does not meaningfully shift the needle away from being single Guy saying he wants something casual is someone saying he doesn’t want a relationship. The fact you guys don’t think that’s gonna change shit is insane levels of a victim complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:45 PM
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The difference is when you do it it’s fine and when other people do it, you criticize them. The difference between "it's not exactly practical advice" Then elaborate. What’s not practical about that advice? Because accountability is scary to this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:38 PM
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How your english went from a grade school level to a college level at random times Insult after insult. Then make an essay out of it, inside your sources. Because one thing I realize arguing on this app, you guys can’t actually prove your claims and you put no effort into trying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:36 PM
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Treating people like shit and put little effort into dating. Most of you aren’t comprehending that only works when you have something of high value to compensate. No one‘s gonna put up with that type of behavior if you have nothing of high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:35 PM
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I largely agree with your post, Lilith. Sometimes, you do need to find a different pond, especially if you're using expensive bait and/or you don't like the quality of fish in a specific pond. Oh finally, an acknowledgment of accountability if someone is scuba diving and cutting every line you cast I didn’t know dating asked for forcing guys to say they just want casual and then not put any effort into conversing with women. Tell me how did dating apps do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:33 PM
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Because you guys want to act like Chad without having his looks. And none of the guys jere want to accept that they’re not a special as they want to be treated as.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:30 PM
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It's a pretty concise self-validating claim that holds no room for interrogation. I’m sure that’s a compliment, considering you did the same thing, but surely you won’t have insulted yourself! it's not exactly practical advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:29 PM
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Shame men who can’t find a date To make sure they understand they’re the problem and that no one wants to hear them act like everyone else is the problem when it’s actually themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:28 PM
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See, because you guys can’t get the casual sex you want, you guys wanna play victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:27 PM
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No, you guys just won’t admit it, not even to yourselves. For example, you guys still insist on wanting casual short term arrangements despite the fact women keep saying how much those things are turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:27 PM
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he would only be changing his preference from casual to serious That would open up his choices immediately, and would give him more women who don’t mind putting in more effort into conversations so he wouldnt only have women looking to use him for social media follows. Which I don't really see as an improvement That says a lot that you guys don’t realize. And I guess it’s because you guys keep acting like you want something casual when you really need to be acting like you want a relationship. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:23 PM
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it’s not practical advice to people who want to keep having a victim complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:03 PM
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I'm not arguing against changing or improving oneself. “ Wouldn't have mattered much” Yes, you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:02 PM
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My my experience Statistics have not shown that women are fond of casual sex. In fact, it’s usually disappointing. In my experience, there is no difference in overall quality of personality among women whether they are looking for short-term or long-term Going back to what I said about fickle women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:01 PM
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CS is based on desirability Most men arent hot and video the guy in the video was boring as hell and couldnt take initiative. You guys certainly don’t act like you have limited choices. If you can get CS what's the point of relationships? Relationships were around since patriarchies were alot more relevant. Also, with casual sex both straight women and gay men have a problem with guys wanted their casual partner to act like a boyfriend/girlfriend. Showing that a lot of guys can’t handle being tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:59 PM
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Also, are you going to reply to everything I said You falsely accused me of writing this with AI. If you wanted a serious discussion, maybe don’t just insult people with false accusations?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:55 PM
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Your first three paragraphs are referring to dating apps. You cannot say that men are the problem I just explained it, but I understand its just easier to have a victim complex than actually be desirable and liked by others. And like I always say, for a gender that swears they don’t have options, you guys certainly behave like you have options. Yeah, some guys aren't wise when it comes to that kind of stuff But sure, blame everything on everyone else but yourselves. Because that’s totally attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:54 PM
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Wouldn't have mattered much Of course you guys would say that. That’s easier than actually changing to get results. Women don't need men anymore You guys (not most guys) do nothing to be wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:51 PM
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Then why are there so many guys stupid enough to try to go for casual sex and “short term”. You guys certainly don’t act like you have limited choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:50 PM
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I’m realizing you guys not only lie to yourselves about what women want, but you intentionally divert the conversation when you have no real comeback.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:12 PM
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How hard it is for men to do? Women are into casual sex Most arent. just not with him Because he’s boring and doesn’t plan on dates when someone does get his attention. Where is the proof that fickle women have low standards Because this is a common theme of the guys here who claimed they do get women. please stop using AI You’re a bad judge a character so that makes sense why all your assertions are so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:12 PM
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Men remain on dating apps because They dont take responsibility when theyre the problem. I just explained how that guy is the problem for how awful his experience was on hinge and you guys are still acting like the world‘s just super unfair to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:09 PM
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So can you copy and paste the portions of your response that actually addressed the problem I’m talking about? Because it seems like you and a lot of other guys just don’t want to admit when you’re the problem when it comes to the types of women you’re meeting. Because even the guy in the video, what the fuck are you doing talking to a girl for 12 straight days and not ask her out on a date? If you’re looking for something short-term, what the fuck are you doing wasting your time talking for 12 …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:46 PM
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Jeremy meets went from a felon to a sugar baby. So clearly the rest of society disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:28 PM
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Also, the guy in the video isn’t ugly. So can we stop talking about looks as if it’s the only thing that matters? Because this guy is a model and struggling. Also, he’s cute, but he’s not Jeremy Meeks level of attractive. you have to put in work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:06 PM
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Doesnt his profile say looking for short term? ON HINGE? Also, HINGE is bad in general. Fellas, understanding the spaces you're going into would help ALOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:47 PM
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You guys are overestimating how easy it is for men to pull that off. As guys here have already said, the looks standard is very high and alot of those men have to lower their looks standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:45 PM

you don’t use singular people to hate you talk about men as a whole everyday here When did I say I talked about men as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:19 PM

You have so much grievance about men People have alot of grievances against Casey Anthony, so should men not like women over her? People have alot of grievances Karens, so should men not like women over her? People have alot of grievances over Giselle Maxwell, so should men not like women over her? People have alot of grievance against Weinstein, Epistein, Tate, Cosby, P Diddy, so does that mean people hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:42 PM

Did I claim she said that? It’s just calling men gay It's this why you're always acting confused? I'm gonna have to be blunt, I think the guy claiming you have a comprehension problem is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:40 PM

It’s just calling men gay Copy and paste where she said this. I need proof you actually read what is said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:35 PM

I wonder why the men on this sub don't listen when Lilith "tells" what to do. Because then they'll have nothing to bitch about and would actually act like adults, which they dont want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:35 PM

And don’t you think women can effectively communicate that better than “fuck men if you don’t like current situations”? Why should we? Either take or leave it. If you dont like women, dont date women. But ion you still wanna date, Grindr's available.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:28 PM

No, there's no reason to bring gay men into that. If they dont like women, that's always an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:26 PM

Wanna earn more than en, go and earn instead of complaining. You are aware that patriarchy and misogyny still exists that does prevent that right? complaining and fixing things that does not affect you directly Complaining from time to time and being a little bitch with a victim complex is not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:19 PM

Yes, you should consider changing your tune What happened to men being able to handle honesty and logic more than women? Oh! That was a lie the redpill convinced themselves of?! you know, the red pill. The redpill's main attraction is misogyny. If it wasn't, guys like Tate wouldn't be as popular. You guys can claim whatever you want, but actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:14 PM

Mating is essential to a healthy society. These guys dont talk about procreating, though. Maybe men should have different standards, though it probably needs a cultural intervention to accomplish that. Accountability, please? Not gonna just happen in 2026 based on individuals In the West, yes it can. Especially in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:12 PM

Most men are not bitching about women and dating too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:07 PM

Well then there is no patriarchy and misogyny did not prevent you from anything. Walk me through how you came to that conclusion. Let's just go full out on not caring about others. Why should we, right? Sucks to suck, not my problem. People with victim complexes rarely give a fuck about others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:06 PM

The redpill does revolve their lives around pussy. Even Andrew Tate is having his life ruined over pussy (and yes I'm oversimplifying the situation to prove a point).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:03 PM

it’s easier to not hyperfixate on something you can get easily. Right, but their friendships are usually just acquaintances they put up with because of shared hobbies and usefulness. And if their families are super dysfunctional, the family usually coddled them and encouraged a sense of entitlement. That's how they end up with their dating lives being shit. They're missing the basics of being an adult. it’s not “consequences” for men when they are treated differently due to the actions of other …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:03 PM

No I didn’t Yes you did. Even the mods deleted it over Woe-Is-Me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:55 PM

Depends on the criticism. I listed examples, READ THE POST.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:54 PM

Doesn’t have to do anything with what I said. That has to do what I SAID.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:53 PM

There are many standards that aren’t held to women on a societal standard as it is men You said SOCIETAL STANDARDS. What you listed was DATING. YOU control dating, not society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:52 PM

“outside of dating” as if romantic relationships aren’t one of the most significant parts of the human experience There's a reason every guy I know who revolves their life around pussy are loser. They're more focused on dating than the other aspects of life,. So you're NEVER had friends and family before you started dating? Peers at school? gender changes how the entire world interacts with you. Because there's also patterns in behavior. Most violence coming from men will affect how people act. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:49 PM

That’s an assertion, You literally tried to threaten to KYS over an argument we had. I’ve seen plenty of women play victim too. You literally tried to threaten to KYS over an argument we had.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:44 PM

Paying for dates, initiating, approaching Have you noticed all those things are dating related. Please ACTUALLY read the post. DO NOY SKIM. READ. more emotional regulation Because men are more likely to externalize and resort to anger. When did I say anything about women acting like men. READ. THE. POST. You gotta stop expecting me to hold your hand. I will never do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:43 PM

Ok so now character means having a back bone and being yourself yet that still isn’t the end all be all in dating. I completely disagree. Be Yourself is dumb because alot of people are insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:37 PM

Why is criticizing men considered accountability, Because they're the main ones here acting like victims when men are criticized on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:36 PM

sometimes it’s a fair point. But the point has to actually be fair. Not a distortion of reality. we can’t talk about marriage or relationships and focus on only one half of the equation. But I addressed this in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:34 PM

There are many standards that aren’t held to women on a societal standard as it is men Such as? Elaborate. just because some men have grievances with the other gender “well go on grindr” is the same deflection Women are not gonna start acting like men just because it inconveniences men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:32 PM
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The issue is women attach negative personality traits to men who say things that upset them. My apologies I misread what you wont. That's MASSIVE hypocrisy from a sub that claims I hate men and can't find a single piece of evidence that I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:48 AM

it isn't weird for him to expect her to talk about looks. So why wasn’t he asking when she didn’t bring up physical attraction? Knowing how to flirt is knowing how to talk to women That’s an indication of poor social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:35 PM

Blaming bad treatment on someone’s inability to communicate what treatment they DO want is textbook victim blaming. But such as? There are general expectations people should be allowed to have for a relationship that one really shouldn’t be responsible for asking for - things like monogamy once you’re committed, not being hit or stolen from etc. Why would you need to communicate NOT to commit felonies? Its literally a crime. Also, polyamory and cheating are not the same thing. If one need to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:33 PM

What does that have to do with communicating? Youre gonna have to actually come with examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:29 PM
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This sub has a few people with unconventional takes No thats a common take here. but I haven't seen anything to suggest that they are supported by general trends Ariana Grande is a cunt but she still gets men. I would appreciate more substance in your comments So you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:25 PM
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You guys claim anything and everything you want as realistic. As the title says, everybody thinks men demand women to have bottom of the barrel standards A lot of you are, you guys just pretend the issue is just looks. They have skewed views of what a man is and also an overestimation of their own value. Women are constantly complimented, including the average ones and thus they created in their head this impression that they deserve the best of the best men out there. You just proved my point. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:22 PM
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This sub has made it very clear they truly couldn't care less what her personality is, as long as she gives him a chance. I have made a post about men vetting out women who want them to jester, do you understand how many men argue with me about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:01 PM
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It’s so funny you guys clearly want prostitution arrangements but you get so offended when people outright call it that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:00 PM
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The problem is you guys only think in utilities but a lot of you don’t realize how little value you give to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:00 PM
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There’s more indications that he’s not a good person. Because good man would realize how uncomfortable inappropriate wearing a vulgar sweater is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:59 AM
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Pattern implies a significant percentage. Yes. Because most killers dont have that type of ideological connection. When there's a pattern of ideology promoting violence, that gets government attention. Same with religious extremism and white supremacy. This is a handful of already mentally unstable individuals PLUS IDEOLOGY.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:10 AM
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Not so fast! I actually got an example! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uf5f622wHY Now you can go ahead and pretend theyre ugly, but those women definitely fit the beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:24 AM
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People with low self esteem often accept terrible treatment for a few crumbs of validation. But there's nothing validating from some mediocre guy treating them like shit. Same reason unlikable dudes typically chase Stacies to humiliate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:21 AM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBCtHXAB/ Guy looks just as bad with worse hair and he says he gets better luck than he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:55 PM
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So what? You wanna give him a participation trophy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:53 PM
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for many men, it’s not worth putting in extra effort compared to the more inherently desirable men SO YOU LIED.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:42 PM
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It got banned because society relies on men contributing So youre admitting you lied here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:40 PM
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6/10 is just about where Luigi Mangione Why are you guys forgetting there are actual people who wish they could do what Luigi did for political reason. Do you guys ignore politics that much or do you guys intentionally ignore that aspect of it? This also assumes Tom Holland isn't a celebrity This is ignoring the fact that people love Luigi for political reasons too. he’s considered a modern day Robinhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:35 PM
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Considering it’s newborns and not toddlers like Casey Anthony’s child, that makes it more clear that the chances of it being a postpartum depression or psychosis that is highly likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:17 PM
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If you tried looking up postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis, it would make more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:12 PM
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What are you trying to show with these examples? It is clear those women either had postpartum depression or postpartum psychosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:09 PM
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That’s actually worse. That means his personality is so garbage that humble people don’t want to be around him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:08 PM
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just make her your wh0re, bruh Apparently, all they do is poorly flirt, and make six figures. Why is that not a good solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:07 PM
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“ No one cares. Just give up QUIETLY.” “ "No ones cares if they shut up about it" Do you not understand that quiet and shut up is the same thing? OK, that solidified this discussion is over and future ones too. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:45 PM
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If he looked like Jeremy Meeks Because you guys want pretty privilege to where nothing else matters. Well guess what? The vast majority of you will never get it. Most of you are not special and you’re not gonna get special treatment. Cause there are no bots If the only woman willing to chat with him are bots, that means he’s only looking for extremely hot women whose pictures were stolen by some Nigerian scammer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:41 PM
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Why? So clearly, those guys do want women because theyre constantly begging for women’s attention to the fact that they’ve given up on women. That’s honestly extremely pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:39 PM
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And what you said had nothing to do with what I said. If they shut the fuck up, nobody cares that they gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:37 PM
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It got banned because society relies on men contributing Dude, I went on that sub before it got banned. They were even talking about how rape victims don’t deserve sympathy if they go to a club when they have a boyfriend. In what fucking universe is that OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:37 PM
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gulp he wore a sweater?!? You’re proving it’s not all about looks. You guys just don’t like admitting when behavior and lack of social skills is the problem.. What a piece of shit. Yes, most people think that’s fucking gross and immature. Also, you seem to have forgotten that he chatted up 1269 women and he still only commit one of them on a date and it still didn’t go well..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:35 PM
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An average looking guy with quirky interests who loves animals gets 0 interest Love that you’re ignoring that he only wanted women who like fishing, has 33 snakes, and wears vulgar sweater. Also, he chatted with 1269 women. But a violent felon gets millions of suitors You mean real life Chad that’s a sugar baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:30 PM
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No one cares, except the ones Who have to hear the ones not giving up quietly. Thats why r/MGTOW got banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:22 PM
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Assaulting people is fine as long as you're hot Do you guys not know what a SUGAR BABY is? Do you honestly think his sugar mamas give two shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:19 PM
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Women need to understand that for many men, it’s not worth putting in extra effort compared to the more inherently desirable men. No one cares. Just give up QUIETLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:16 PM
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Do you not understand the difference between a fanbase for a horrible person vs just a fanbase being horrible? If a person still likes a man, who’s a misogynist and investigated by three different countries for being a kidnapping rapist, the fan base are terrible people too. it was definitely frustrating to see my concerns confirmed about women being hypocritical Why? Because you don’t like when women can be hypocrites like men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:14 PM
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Also guys forget even ugly women with low self esteem aren't gonna tolerate mistreatment from average looking dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:36 PM
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Looks are important but they aren't the foundation for an enjoyable fuck or relationship. The point is to be hot enough to treat women like shit. Looks are cool but focusing only on them is why so many young men today are struggling. Because they overestimate how good looks can counteract a bad personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:21 PM
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I am thinking the issue is guys really underestimate how attractive they have to be for enough women to tolerate their awful personality. Being 6/10 helps when he has a decent personality. Being 6/10 with an awful people personality only works on women with awful personalities or very ugly women with low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:20 PM
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I explained it, but if you want to ignore because you can't counter anything I say, that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:11 PM
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No one is saying that you can’t become less attractive with a bad personality, "What we’re saying is that his dating success would barely change if he altered his personality" So what? You're implying it makes it 1% harder despite the fact you just saw a guy decrease his chances by 71%? Your own example proves it since 29% of women still opted in! Guy still got 1 date out of 2 million women! 1269 of them still chatted with him. SEE, WOMEN STILL OPT-IN!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:43 PM
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I think people are in denial that the modern digital age inflates women's standards Imagine thinking women are unreasonable because they dont want to fish, they don't like vulgar sweaters in public, and they dont want a guy who has 33 snakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:31 PM
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Just because you can't counter doesn't mean it's not relevant. To say personality barely matters is weird when you see a guy just tank 71% of his remaining options by being an ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:30 PM
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Calm down. No. Because that grievance was always ridiculous. You're not exceptional, you're not getting exceptional treatment. What we’re saying is that his dating success would barely change You guys will literally see a guy tank his dating options the second he does something stupid and will still claim it's all about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:20 PM
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So? It’s true. Most of you will never be that attractive. You're not special, stop expecting special treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:02 PM
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Yes people marry and have success. But people also win big at the casino sometimes too? Doesn't mean everyone is a winner. I mean, how many people have you dated turned into a marriage? I'm going out on a limb here and saying dating apps are the problem because people like this exist on the app. But how is it different from saying the internet is the problem rather than how they use it? You yourself brought up gambling. Yeah, how guys are treating dating is how a gambling addict behaves. Dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:01 PM
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One more reply: Why DO you want women hybristophilia? Is it because you think their craziness makes them crazy in the sack? Is it being they have stupid amount of loyalty like Harley Quinn has for Joker?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:36 PM
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Let me rewrite what I said in less words: It is NOT society's fault, NOT society's problem, NOT society's business that YOU guys want women with hybristophilia. That is a YOU thing. YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:31 PM
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you said guys can't find gf because they are bad person Listen, if you guys wanna fuck real life Harley Quinns, that's your business. Research what those psychos are looking and why they aren't into you. No one else cares. Normal men dont want those women, but some reason, YOU GUYS DO. You wanna fuck women who finger themselves to serial killers? THAT. IS. ON. YOU. What part of that are you not getting? It is NOT society's fault, NOT society's problem, NOT society's business that you guys want w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:25 PM
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Listen, if you're not gonna put in effort communicating, I'm not gonna put in effort talking to you. Either elaborate what you're asking or bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:16 PM
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Do you know their are serial killer who have gf's. So you guys wanna fuck psychos? Why not be upfront about you wanting a real life Harley Quinn? How is that everyone else's fault a bunch of Harley Quinns dont want you as their Puddin'?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:16 PM
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Then there's not point in you saying This thread is basically "ugly incels don't succeed".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:59 PM
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They keep wanting to act like Chad knowing damn well, they aren't special like Chad is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:58 PM
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Such as WHAT? Which topic you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:57 PM
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Most of you aren't hot enough for the behavior you want to have and for some reason you guys want to compare yourselves to exceptions when you're not exceptional. You guys bring up looks because you want only that to matter, but most of you don't have to the looks for that type of privilege. Hence, you guys bring no value to others getting upset that the assholes with value are doing better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:43 PM
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Each one of these points is about the guy specifically, I said more than that, but since most of you can't counter what I said, of course it goes ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:41 PM
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They keep wanting to act like they have pretty privilege, knowing damn well they dont have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:40 PM
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the answer is always that he has a bad personality Which means he's showing he has a bad personality. If everywhere you're going, you see assholes, you're the asshole. I even addressed this in the post, but you dont actually want to read what I said: Even when there are obvious signs and people tell him directly what his personality/behavior is appalling, it does not matter. He will insist that women are the problem and he’s fine not having those women. Let's zoom in: Even when there are obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:37 PM
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Why can't it be most of it? Most guys dont have pretty privilege, so stop behaving like you do. Also, 1269 chats into 1 date says his social skills are awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:19 PM
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Well, you could look it up. Here’s a video discussing it: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSbK8Xc7/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:05 PM
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See, motivated reasoning. You’re not actually trying to have a discussion, you just want to keep insisting you’re right and will bend reality in your head to prove that you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:04 PM
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Right and because most of us aren't hot we won't do well on online dating Because you guys keep trying to act like you have pretty privilege knowing damn well, you don’t. Nobody is reading his profile This is what I mean. You guys want people who only care about looks knowing damn well you don’t have the looks they would care about. He could be saying something to turn them off So you conceded its not about looks for his problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:03 PM
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Because you guys are acting like nobody has successful relationships online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:56 PM
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women don’t like men with low effort profile Did you actually look at his profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:55 PM
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I thought women could smell desperation You guys wanna keep clinging onto that line no matter how many times I explained it’s because you guys don’t have social tact. This guy talked to 1269 women on that app and it still only resulted in one date. At what point could it just be the guy’s fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:53 PM
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Exactly, online has opened the door to meet people you normally wouldn’t meet, especially since they live far away. So I don’t understand why people complain about dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:53 PM
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First to get the obvious out of the way, his only real problem is that he's not attractive MOST OF YOU WILL NEVER GET PRETTY PRIVILEGE. Why can’t most of you here just except you will never be special? You’re not gonna get special treatment because you’ve given people no reason to treat you like you are special. Why is it you guys cannot accept that? This is meant to communicate he likes fishing Most of you will never be hot enough for people to be OK with your social skills being this subpar. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:51 PM
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Also, you guys keep bringing up hookups and “ will never convince me that people who are attractive have to put in any work to get into the door” as if it’s the exact same thing. ..but also when you send message after message to nothing....you start to think....are these apps even functional anymore? See, this is what I’m talking about. It’s never you’re the problem. It’s everyone else that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:49 PM
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If you guys actually cared about understanding your dating pool, you would realize Gen Z cares less about sex than other generations. Also, you guys keep bringing up hookups and “ will never convince me that people who are attractive have to put in any work to get into the door” as if it’s the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:43 PM
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For all their claims of wanting to understand women, none of them want to acknowledge that young women is the main non-LGBT group that supports the LGBT community.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:42 PM
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Yeah but violent, mentally underdeveloped losers like Jeremy Meeks Jeremy Meeks is a sugar baby supermodel because he’s actual a real life Chad. What do you guys have to expect his treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:41 PM
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Explain how your brain turned Because he has a bad personality and he refuses to change it" into "If you don't have a girlfriend then your bad person because i think so".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:38 PM
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And the conclusion will still be “WELL IF HE WAS ATTRACTIVE-“
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:46 PM
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This thread is basically "ugly incels don't succeed" See. You guys would prefer to make everything about looks even even when conventionally unattractive guys say the problem is beyond that. You will never convince me that people who are attractive have to put in any work Most of you WILL NEVER be that attractive. So if you guys are looking for people to treat you like you have pretty privilege without actually being pretty, just give up on dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:44 PM
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Because you are treating a show as a normal everyday thing men will do Most guys here don’t even think what he did was bad. If they can’t even detect bad behavior, so blatantly displayed, there’s no way they’re noticing when they’re doing it in real life and more subtle ways. Also, the fact that they don’t think he’s an idiot for ruining his dating chances that severely shows they have no problem when a guy chooses to fuck up his own dating chances due to his behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:40 PM
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dating apps are intentionally the problem So you’re not actually going to address the post you’re just gonna insist at everything related to dating apps is a problem. Could you please stop your motivated reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:37 PM
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women can also get "filtered out" by unreasonably small things You think vulgar sweaters, have 33 snakes, and only wanting a fishing buddy is unreasonably small things? Acting desperate is one of the most unattractive things you can do in dating. Everyone knows this That doesn’t tell us what exactly you guys are doing on dates. Like I said in a previous post, saying a bunch of women on my 600 pound life having boyfriends clearly shows desperation works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:36 PM
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That did not counter anything I said. Explain how that counter a single thing I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:34 PM
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That didn’t change a single thing I said. Dating apps can’t be the problem that people are successful in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:31 PM
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if men are doing the same shit“ I explained it, you just didn’t want to read it because you have no counter to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:17 PM
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That didn’t disprove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:17 PM
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It’s about not seeing yourself as the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:16 PM
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"a lot of guys are OK making their personality extremely unappealing." Source needed. Most guys here can’t even see what the guy here did was a problem. I even have a post about it to prove most of them dont. https://youtube.com/shorts/_ke-Ep2Gu1E?si=W7y__OmOmJGugLEe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:16 PM
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You are aware plenty of marriages started from dating apps right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:14 PM
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Women can’t control the gray area if men are doing the same shit. Why is that so hard for you guys to understand? For all this dating stuff, you don’t understand that people don’t wanna be around somebody with such motivated reasoning. Or is this ALSO too long for you to read and understand? Because that’s also a red flag in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:03 PM
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It doesn't matter the reason you can't just alleviate someone of doing murder Not Guilty By Reason Of Insantiy. Have you not heard of that before?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:02 PM
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Zabelle Peh, 2 months old Conviction: Pleaded guilty to a reduced homicide charge after postpartum depression was considered Yeah, thats usually the pattern for these types of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:00 PM
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That's a tiny fraction of the mass shootings that happen every year. But the fact that it’s a pattern is a problem. Nobody is denying men are responsible but focusing on lonely men as a particular threat is dubious When there’s a pattern of motivation to commit public slaughters, there is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:58 AM
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A lot of women point to the internet as proof of what men are: look at all the men whining, look how toxic they are, look at the incels Guys do the exact same thing, especially when it comes to hot women not liking short. Go to the femcel pages, where women who can't find partners blame the entire dating market. So like incels minus the encouraging violent crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:57 AM
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Grindr is always available. If you guys think how women operate is a problem, then don’t date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:56 AM
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Definitely wasn't my intention Because most guys here don’t actually sit down and think about what they’re doing. You’re talking about understanding women are bias, but you guys can’t even see you’re doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:52 AM
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Women do not want direct language meaning men directly asking for consent. Oh no men have to follow the law, what an oppressive thing to do. I saw a video of a guy who sent a voice note to a girl he had been on one date with where he expressed he wanted a sexual relationship, and if she didn’t want that he would be wasting time. Good for her for being upfront about it, most guys here won’t even do that and then just complain they wasted their time and money on a woman who won’t put out. They lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:51 AM
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Are you assuming that women in general are smarter than this? Of course you don’t think so, you look at shit like love Island and think it’s gonna tell you something about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:46 AM
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They only focus on the misogynist who are successful because that’s who they want to be. They don’t wanna focus on the other types of men who are also successful with women because they don’t wanna be anything but a successful asshole. just like they ignore the short men who do. Because what they actually want are women with a height fetish because they actually go after a man just because height queens are very lustful for those guys. They’re mad there’s rarely one for short guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:45 AM
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we are pointing out how the more attractive men are seen as good By dumb women. It’s fine that you guys went dumb women, but you have to be honest about it instead of talking shit about the entire female gender. got into love island recently Everyone thinks that show is a joke. I don’t even follow it. God damn are women hypocritical.. Because those are the women you want to focus on and you want to see. And I’m gonna guess those women are conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:42 AM
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It's funny that so many women here think "incels" are the biggest threat to them Public slaughters are a problem. Especially in the USA. Incels are just perma virgins venting their frustrations online We have found incel forums that encourage murder and laugh at mass slaughters. They have created an ideology that have decided that all of society is their enemy. My best looking friend is very much right winged, Catholic, misognyst, cheats too and guess what? He always has an attractive woman that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:21 AM
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Many women did stop having sex with misogynists, and those men adopted red pill conspiracy theories and overwhelmingly voted for Trump. What happens is they see that a couple of the women who fit their fantasy do exist. It’s more that they’re upset they can’t get those women they truly want. To be a good person It doesn’t matter what consequences come, he will never do that when he’s red pill. He will just believe women are evil and unfair because he’s dealing with the consequences of his action…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:19 AM
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RP is supposed to be how things actually play out You guys don’t even want to accept when a guy ruined his dating options by being an ass to one of the women on the dating show.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:17 AM
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Close, it’s based on motivated reasoning. Part of the low understanding is because they react to things like toddlers, so it’s severely hinder their critical thinking skills. They don’t really care about anything except talking shit about women as if women are the cause of all their problems. That’s why when they talk about other issues, they do it from a very limited understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:17 AM
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"If you don't have a girlfriend then your bad person because i think so" You guys see and hear that all the time because that’s what you wanna see in here instead of what is actually said to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:15 AM
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You have no room to tell anyone not to get off topic Its my post. GO MAKE YOUR OWN.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:14 AM
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You’re not reading what I’m telling you. Make your own post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:12 AM
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If 2/3rds of that is not money related how does this mean he wants a sugar mama? Listen, if y'all dont know what sugar dating is, go google it. I'm not holding on your hand on that. Also, if you're gonna be lazy communicating, it's gonna be hard to understand, like people trying to give you advice but you give them bad questions. Seems like you don’t have answers I do. You just dont like them. Why does the question matter? Most of you don't care and will date them anyways. Do you have proof pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:06 PM
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And the overall message I get from this post is mainly "Treat people like human beings rather than as disposable". Yes Basic respect generally does make dating (and other social interaction) go better. Sidenote, a big issue I see is alot of guys dont practice social interactions that much except for dating. But I do wonder if others may have other issues, like anxiety, social isolation, or other circumstances. But now we have to get into WHY was he socially isolated. And is he working on it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:04 PM
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Explain how 2/3 of what was said, Copy and paste what's confusing you. which doesn’t involve money, means he wants a sugar mama If you didn't read the comment I was responding to, that's on you. Doesn’t answer my question What's the point of the answer? Most of you will still date her and her ilk, anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:48 PM
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they then just wont date at all Good for them. this is what the redpill calls Chad MOST OF YOU WILL NEVER BE CHAD. I have to say it in big letters because guys here keep ignoring reality. usually the options she doesn't want. I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:46 PM
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Came back because I'm bored. Him wanting a woman to approach him, pay for dates and initiate sex is wanting a sugar mama? Yes. Are most women looking for sugar babies then? Date them or dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:43 PM
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So the question is, if Ms. 600 lbs is dating in shape average men, Listen, either date her or don't. That's the point of this post. Date her or dont. If you want to get off topic,. you're more than welcome to make a post based off this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:41 PM
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I never get use to them being hypocrites. They get SO PASSIONATE talking about how women slight them while they do the same to women,
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:57 PM
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That chick is dating way up This is about dating any woman. So clearly that is possible if he’s actually willing to date any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:55 PM
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Agreed but this contradicts your all men need to do be willing to take any women claim that you made above That shows you didn't actually read the post. Read the three points I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:54 PM
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Weren’t you just saying that your friends have six figure salaries? Why are you complaining that they’re dating life sucks when they can just do what Trump did? Men who are considered unremarkable or overlooked in their home countries often find that their stability, commitment, and values are highly sought after in other cultures Sounds more like their six figure salary isn’t enough to get a sugar baby in their homeland.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:21 PM
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Then the fit guy isn’t willing to take any woman. That’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:39 PM
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But even when thinking about fairness, they don’t understand they’re not even being fair to women whatsoever. Because why would they think behaving terribly wouldn’t hurt their options? And why do they only complain about their being no options after they destroyed their options with their behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:36 PM
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Thank you for talking to him, because I have absolutely no idea what he just wrote and I’m not going to entertain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:45 PM
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You misunderstood, I’m not even sure where you even got that idea from from my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:43 PM
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"look at this 1 guy said" No, thats an example. That just like I asked guys here for one example of an average woman talking shit about short guys. Instead, all they do is show me conventionally, attractive, women, talking shit about short guys. Based on what? Does your Situationship statistics say women are constantly in Situationships or does it say they have been in at least one Situationship? That is a big difference. Except 50% is not a minority No, you said about half. About half is not ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:42 PM
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I know, but if they’re whining was not so common, no one would care. Clearly, ignoring them has not worked because they ended up getting to mainstream for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:54 PM
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Yea. Doesn't matter So they’re working off of limited options because they’ve caused it, which was the point I was making. Most unselected men But this sub has shown they’re willing to limit their options until they basically have no options, but they won’t acknowledge. They’re the problem.. Lots or men are facing being incels for something out their control But there are a lot of incels here and and even they don’t see what the guy did in the video I showed as a problem. They are stuck between …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:50 PM
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More like "you can't point to one person saying something and pretend it's men in general" I never said it was men in general Eventually Typically after the first time. Seems more like your complaint refers to the last paragraph of my post. A significant minority for sure, but still a minority That’s the same thing I can say about you bringing up Situationships, so I guess we’ll throw that away. What are you basing this belief from? Based on the other things I said that you don’t like hearing be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:39 PM
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I’m not really saying what that has to do with my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:25 PM
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Men are working off very very limited options. Then why is it whenever I show that video where a guy lost most of his dating options by being rude to one of the women, most guys in the sub do not see a problem with it? Because if what you’re saying is actually true, guys would think he’s dumb as hell for what he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:25 PM
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To be clear, my comment was only tangentially related to your post. A slim, attractive*, young woman is "the default" woman in men's minds (regarding relationships). The point is they’re more picky than they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:22 PM
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I disagree with this being a common deal-breaker for most desperate men The ACTUAL desperate men, as I mentioned. if you have evidence to the contrary besides some dude saying “You can’t trust guys saying contradicting shit” They aren't going out looking for casual sex, they are trying to get the man and sleep with him Most women aren’t doing that because they know how stupid and unrewarding that is. We already have stats showing that about half of young women have been in a situationship And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:18 PM
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in many such cases no one's giving him the chance Even other guys will say he’s the problem at that point. Including guys who aren’t considered conventionally attractive. again projection there are no "know you worth" "never settle" and "you deserve" statements pointing at men this is women coded dating. Guys here have said they don’t want to feel like they’ve been settled for. Even guys here agree with me. no such thing as unconditional love Then why are there men here who say it? what you get …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:02 PM
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This is operating off the assumption that the lower their women dont also have high standards due to social media and dating apps. Then don’t date those women. If those are the only kinds of people, the guy is getting, that kind of goes back to my three points. Women themselves admit that they only find a small percentage of men attractive There’s baseline attraction and then there’s overwhelming lust. The vast majority of men have never caused women to have overwhelming lust for them. That is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:56 PM
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doesn't mean we should change what is normal But it’s not the average anymore. Guys can’t be claiming they’re being reasonable that they just want the average and what they’re imagining is not the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:52 PM
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you are saying that the "i'll take anyone" men are the ones that aren't actually willing to date these women Unless she has sex with him immediately, which most women aren’t willing to do. but it's actually the women that aren't willing to because they are busy trying to get commitment from better looking guys You said it’s because they’re able to get sex from better looking guys without commitment. Again, most women are not doing that. The looksmatch are available for casual sex, just with more…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:41 PM
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If a guy is constantly jestering, that means he needs to gain more value or lower his standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:36 PM
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I live in a country with a similar obesity rate as America Then the default woman is not the average woman. The average woman is fat. Even the average young woman is fat. Still, that is the default woman with regards to a man looking for a relationships But they keep claiming their standards are reasonable when they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:35 PM
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And many women fail to uphold the 3 date rule. Proving my point 3 right. That’s like me saying all women hate the patriarchy yet want to have a provider. That’s literally what is being said in the sub and there are actually women like that. It’s just you guys keep choosing to entertain those hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:34 PM
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Doesn’t answer my question Your question had nothing to do with what I said. And I gave you a counter. I’m not holding your hand on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:31 PM
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You’d have to prove that’s what they are doing The 3 date rule, “I want them to TRULY desire me”. Also, also I did a post talking about there’s a difference between baseline attraction and overwhelming lust, These guys didn’t like what I said about baseline attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:29 PM
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ugly women actually sleep around more than attractive women That didn’t change a single thing I said. the issue is they are looking for commitment from men that are better looking So that definitely didn’t change what I said. Women are more likely to look for committment. because they assume that they are the same level just because they can sleep with the guy Those guys wouldn’t have to do that if their looks match was that available for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:28 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:26 PM
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When you look at complaints about women treating short guys poorly, it’s always a conventionally attractive woman doing so. They just think she looks average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:26 PM
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Most guys aren’t saying they’ll take any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:25 PM
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There is one exception I know, but the problem is he has a condition that makes it to where he stutters a lot and is soft-spoken so it’s very hard to talk to him. He is skinny fat and also is a high school dropout. If you worked on one of those things, I think he would do a lot better than he is right now. The problem is a lot of guys claim they are kind and respectful, but when you actually look at them out and about, they’re not as kind of respectful as they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:24 PM
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That is the default woman Not in my country of America. So if you’re not American, you’re most likely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:23 PM
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Well yes because we don’t know if the intent is purely sexual It’s not purely sexual even though they claim they want sex as soon as possible and if they don’t get sex as soon as possible, they feel it’s a waste of time to be around her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:21 PM
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600lb life? You’re asking as if you didn’t actually read the post. I literally mentioned it in the 2nd sentence. That is just fetishism Exactly, they don’t have to be interesting. They just have to enable her food obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:18 PM
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Nobody should be open to dating anyone , thats desperation My point is the desperate ones aren’t always being truthful. They’re desperate typically because they make themselves so undesirable to be around, as I explained how they do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:17 PM
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Yes, thats literally the only thing wrong with them. And I gave the solution. JUST PAY. Hell, it seems Elon Musk barely has to talk to women to convince them to have his kids. You said these guys make good money, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:16 PM
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Thats not how being boring works You’re really overestimating how low the floor the standards are when it comes to not being boring. Plenty of men get women as long as they show a genuine interest in her. You think those women are my 600 pound life have boyfriends because they’re interesting? No! It’s because they take an interest in what she likes, which is food.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:08 PM
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I don't know any socially awkward guys who have girlfriends According to you, all they seem to be doing is poorly flirting. I know they make 6 figures They might have to go to Elon Musk and Trump route and just pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:07 PM
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Most men do not have "appalling" behavior How does that change a single thing I said whatsoever? There are lots of men with great jobs, killing it, have a well organized life, good hygiene, take care of themselves, work out, that women do not want because hes not good at flirting Socially awkward guys have girlfriends too. If the only thing he’s doing is flirting poorly, of course he’s not having any luck. They are just boring. And women want to be entertained If every woman is literally bored o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:55 PM
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That’s not proof. Men who only want women they’ll fuck him ASAP is not proof of them saying “I’ll take any woman” is bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:52 PM
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Him wanting a woman to approach him, pay for dates and initiate sex is wanting a sugar mama? …….Have you never heard of online romance scams?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:46 PM
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How do you prove point 3? Because guys on this sub admit it with euphemisms, I’ve seen it in real life, and women have talked about it in their experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:44 PM
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They want to feel chosen, not merely available My point is women who are actually down on their luck in dating are not going to care as long as he’s not a jackass about it. Someone expecting special treatment knowing damn well they’re not special is really stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:36 PM
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So ya, my main disagreement is that the post takes statements like "I'd date anyone" in their most literal sense and then builds conclusions from that. I’ll address the other points later, but I think this needs to be addressed first. If there werent so many guys that were so loud about the same type of problems, no one would care. The issue is that these guys try to make it everyone’s problem as if they have an actual grievance against the injustice done to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:14 PM
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Trust me, I’m well aware of that. I’m oversimplifying it to prove a point that plenty of men can get a girlfriend if their standards were actually low.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:10 PM
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As romance scams have shown, a guy has to at least be somewhat attractive for that to be pulled off. But then again, if he was even somewhat attractive, he would have other options. It’s just he wants a sugar mama.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:07 PM
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You can’t be blaming other people for shit you can’t name.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:31 PM
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Because I dont have those problems,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:30 PM
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If you want to be treated like an individual, don’t do whatever everyone else is clearly doing that you wouldn’t be grouped up with them. If you want to talk like everyone else, I’m gonna treat you like everyone else If you want to ignore what I’m saying like everyone else, I’m gonna treat you like everyone else. Individuals don’t follow the herd.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:32 PM
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If you want women, accept that women dont act like men, sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:09 PM
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Since it’s a fact that young women have self esteem/body issues IDGAF, I like what I have, I want you to name the EXACT sources of media Ask women who have those problems, I dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:08 PM
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What does that have to do with you guys understanding how to talk to women? Could it be that it had nothing to do with you guys understanding how to talk to women and something else that you guys refuse to actually ask in the first place? In other words, you guys ask really dumb bad questions and then wonder why you get dumb bad advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:07 PM
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Most of what people learn about how society works isn't explicitly spelled out to them So they lied to themselves and then want to blame other people for the lie they fed themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:06 PM
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We already establish men are largely responsible for the bad advice they get. They ask bad questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:30 PM
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They are complaining that women have unlimited options as far as the sexuality they are attracted to. Women's sexual behavior is not like men's. If you dont like women's sexuality, then dont date women. Grindr will give you that same experience. And I think you know this, but men are not out here crying because they cannot bang other men. They're being picky beggar bitch boys. Either want women or dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:28 PM
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Do you guys want unlimited options or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:26 PM
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Which I dont know how they're gonna make that work unless the women are also very stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:34 PM
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So complaining about women having unlimited options means nothing because you guys ALSO dont want those options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:10 PM
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So you want women over unlimited options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:07 PM
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I mean I named mine but "Actually" being with accuracy. Because what he said about the Regular Show actually checks out. Later, he even explained that Rigby was better but he didn't focus on Rigby because he didn't like his personality. Again, checks out. Notice I actually give guys credit when they're actually giving substantial answers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:05 PM
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Do you guys want unlimited options or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:00 PM
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it was an extension of your logic but making a joke out of it because it was so stupid, Of course the lie you told was stupid. That was the point of you making it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:56 PM
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https://edition.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/11/15/tf.emotional.men/index.html I dont even like CNN, but where's the lie? https://www.wsj.com/video/why-are-men-today-such-losers/17BA5742-24E4-4533-94EB-A599F0FF2231 How is that influencing you guys? She's so boring I couldn't even keep up with what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:11 PM
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For Gatsby: money can buy a lot of things from a lot of people, but it can buy everything from everyone. Your own explanation for Gatsby is turning the truth into a lie that you want to believe. Gatsby’s wealth had a lot of people wanting him, but he didn’t want anybody but the woman he could not have, And I'm pretty sure that was suppose to be the symbol of the American Dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:07 PM
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It's basically gotten to the point where they some bullshit and I copy and pasted what they said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:06 PM
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<image> You admitted to not actually address what I said. Instead being hyperbolic and "just joking". You claim to extend the logic, but you can't even explain how point A got to point B.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:05 PM
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If it’s that popular, you can name it. Also guys here don’t believe that shit anyways. What unhealthy masculine ideals? Doesnt exist according to this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:15 PM
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cares if the children suffer? I mean, if the kids are suffering, thats both parents’ fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:11 PM
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Twilight?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:10 PM
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Grindr is always available.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:09 PM
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Many guys want the validation those protagonists have without actually putting in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:08 PM
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Men should outright refuse to fight and tell women that they can fight if they want to. No, they want to force women to fight so they could suffer like men rather than liberating men from suffering. That’s how much they don’t give a single shit about men. "Women sleep around" you would do the same if you had unlimited options, don't lie to yourself. No. Theyre jealous of the women who sleep around because she’s able to sleep with men hotter than he is. They don’t want to hear she’s able to do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:07 PM
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Thats cute. Anyways, Im happy you guys are finally showing revealling you just project your flaws onto me. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:40 PM
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No i mean it. I keep asking you for proof and you’re not going to prove it because you want to hurl itself at me based on what you do. Thays projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:39 PM
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I’ve still gotta wait for you to copy and paste what I actually said. So weird you guys are throwing the words “bad faith” everywhere but you guys can’t even quote what you are arguing against.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:38 PM
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See. Bad faith and misrepresenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:37 PM
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See. Thanks for proving my point. Cry about bad faith but cant even prove I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:45 PM
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Like claiming I confirmed something while also admitting you weren’t reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:42 PM
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Bad faith and you know it What you did was bad faith. Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:41 PM
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Thank for confirming I refuse to read You cant confirm anything if you didn’t even read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:37 PM
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Exactly how a women feel when you guys complain about women getting more attention than you guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:36 PM
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Thank for confirming I refuse to read You cant confirm anything if you didn’t even read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:36 PM
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I refuse to read the words you typed in bold because I find it obnoxious Now you know how it feels listening to guys talk about how they want to same sexual attention women get.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:35 PM
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Men and women arent the same. Either accept that or Grindr’s always available. If you like women, you have to accept women arent men. Our sexual behavior wont be like men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:32 PM
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Eventually we were able to help him figure out it wasn't God, but the character Chuck Cheddar from Pajama Sam that had traumatized him, You kind of proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:31 PM
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If they cant even describe what happened in the scene, it wasnt that big of a deal,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:23 PM
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So in all honesty my question stands how do we link porn to men saying they are lied to Big dating advice: most people don’t wanna date someone who always needs their handheld when it comes to understanding things. I have put way more effort than most people would. They would just walk away immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:52 PM
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I rest my case. You were given a whole explanation and you still acted confused. There is no helping a guy who thinks like that. At best the answer is “You would do well with women who are stupid”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:51 PM
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That there is absolutely nothing wrong with societal expectations for men. So I don’t know why guys are being hysterical over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:47 PM
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Thank you for being the one person in this post and maybe in the sub to actually name what influenced you and what lied to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:45 PM
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Oh wow, I knew problems can arise from inexperience. I didnt know there was a RISE of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:12 PM
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If you aren't following along, then why are you posting, other that to derail the conversion and exhaust her? I’m not exhausted, I’m fascinated. Because I don’t understand why it’s such a flex to not understand anything and to not properly debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:06 PM
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That bugs life was about bugs See, you didn’t even read the whole paragraph. So yeah, don’t bother. You guys don’t read and it’s embarrassing to show that on a debate post. Is there no shame?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:03 PM
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If they’re actually intelligent, they know how to think critically. Otherwise they’re stupid. An intelligent man can hear “well how do you talk to men” and figure out what’s being asked of him. You can guide him, but you don’t need to hold his hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:59 PM
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Don’t bother. Exactly, there’s no point in getting on a debate post and you’re not gonna read the post anyways. That only makes you look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:57 PM
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I have seen bad faith arguers many times Does it include lying about what was said? Because that’s the pot calling to kettle black.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:55 PM
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So you deliberately ignored everything else I said, just like everyone else. Guys, most people get exhausted from motivated reasoning, much faster than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:49 PM
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You can say all of that but until you say what you need to consider what people are saying I don’t even think you even read what I posted. Because you’re not acting like you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:47 PM
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I have more than enough evidence to say you want people to spoon feed you everything. Copy and paste what I said and figure it out. Copy and paste what I said, and start writing your guesses. That’s what critical thinking is, looking at something and figuring out the inferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:44 PM
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I would believe you See, you’re focusing on your feelings instead of what’s actually there. You falsely accuse me of things and then you can’t even back up your false accusations.. Calling out bullshit and able to perfectly count your arguments has nothing to do with autism. It’s about not having motivated reasoning and having a good enough education to know how to argue with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:42 PM
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if a man doesn’t understand dating First of all, he has to critically think. Otherwise, I can’t help him get stupid women. I don’t have experience with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:38 PM
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Another thing, you always need information spoonfed When you guys are making accusations, I expect you to back them up. The problem is you guys can’t and you end up lying about what I said. So I end up, asking you for evidence of what I said, knowing full well you don’t have that evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:37 PM
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I watched that film ages ago so I don't even remember it, Then don’t accuse them of lying to you. You don’t even remember what that lie was.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:35 PM
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I mean you made a random clai So a man says he doesn’t know how to talk to girls. Well, how does he talk to guys? Why does he think he needs to talk to girls differently than he talks to guys? This is stuff most people expect a grown adult to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:32 PM
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So you guys are falsely accusing media for causing your bad understanding of reality and you think not backing up your false accusations was gonna slide?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:28 PM
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So you guys didn’t read anything beyond that? That’s not the win you guys think that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:27 PM
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Anyway you seemingly disregarded a bug's life because they're bugs not people Copy and paste the whole paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:26 PM
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Yeah, that’s why a lot of guys are told to figure it out. Because they want everyone to hold their hand in thinking for them . As an adult, you’re expected to do some critical thinking on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:24 PM
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I can be a man and say “I don’t know how to talk to women” Have you thought about how you talked to men? Have you thought about it for even a second?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:18 PM
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Not even in a negative way but the way she argues makes me believe she falls somewhere on the spectrum, Imagine getting this upset that someone can actually analyze and explain themselves instead of just hurling blame at other people blindly. constant asking questions instead of responding to what's being said to her You didn’t even respond to what I actually said. It’s so weird that you guys keep insulting me with the very things you’re also doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:17 PM
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Using your logic 'south park' is a cartoon and therefore is an illegitimate thing to bring up, Copy and paste where I discounted what people say solely because they watched animation. I’ll be waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:15 PM
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If I told you to stop eating or drinking, would you survive for long? If a person can’t figure out why that’s a bad idea and can’t explain why that’s a bad idea, we should not think of that person as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:10 PM
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You have your explanations on why they are bad You got your examples. Guys, please stop expecting people to spoon feed you. So how about you guess what you need to do learning from my examples? Guys, part of debating it analyzing. You guys really gotta work on your analytical skills. But I think many gave you a multifaceted answer Youre not even giving me and you want me to spoonfeed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:03 PM
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Lastly, there’s nothing to address Well reading the post would help. But I guess motivated reasoning is easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:50 AM
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What criteria are you looking for here because your first complaint about bugs life was “well he’s a bug” Holy shit, anything but naming them. Anything but that. Also, I gave my explanations in my post, which clearly weren't read. Guys, you can't claim to be logical and you are always quick to reply with your emotions. That's probably why so many of you only know dumb fickle women. A competent logical person find that motivated reasoning to be annoying as hell. Not to mention in your last post a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:49 AM
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Because I can actually named what influenced me and lied to me instead of blindly blaming the media?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:41 AM
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No. They claim that's not the case. So I'm giving them a chance to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:40 AM
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but then go on to say “NO! THAT DOESNT COUNT” to every single one of them? Notice I gave two paragraphs worth of explanations and even included the problem in my conclusion, but you refuse to actually address it. I'm getting the impression most guys in this sub dont really sit down and think on what's being told to them. They just react with emotions first. Secondly, media influences behavior in more ways than one. Then name them. You guys can't even do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:39 AM

And the consequences is being less liked. It's fine, but you guys aren't accepting that consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:37 AM

So what should the average woman expect in exchange for the bare minimum of being ::checks notes::"naturally soft, domestic, peaceful, and beautiful" for a man? You will never get an answer because they have never thought about what value they bring to others to think they deserve what they want. It never crossed their minds they actually have to give people a reason to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:35 AM

What you guys consider the average women: Hypersexual Complimented for the just existing. Has a inflated ego Despite being awful, she's always surrounded by guys. She can get men to jester for her. She's always looking for Chad. When it's not Chad, she's looking to extract resources. She successfully does this. That's a STACY.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:34 AM
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Imagine getting upset that atleast 50% of the population has to not hate you. Society (and women specifically) has a vested interest in men accepting the "provider" role. Feminists: So about toxic masculinity- Men here: SHUT THE FUCK UP! THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MASCULINITY! But that payoff exists alongside the fact that the arrangement benefits women and society as a whole, Me: Then stop paying- Men Here: THEN HOW AM I GONNA GET PUSSY?! YOUR IDEAS ARE STUPID! It benefits society as a whole, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:31 AM
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It's more that a large sum of men are just failing and wont stop. Where is it getting lost in translation? Did large sum become all? Please, explain to me how you concluded large sum and all were the same thing. Better yet, let me what version of English you are using.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:24 AM
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Did it ever occur to you men are not a monolith?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:16 AM
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But I don’t think they see that as value. They clearly do. Men think they become valuable by getting shredded, having money, etc. And they resent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:03 PM
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Also by just saying “some men*” doesn’t erase your biased view of men. That usually comes from statistics and surveys. Women are generally considered to be more aligned, reserved, social, emotionally intelligent, well groomed, fashionable, and moral( Women typically care more about social harmony, social skills, fashion, and emotional intelligence than men. The moral thing comes more from stats on crimes and adultery.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:02 PM
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If women are more valuable as you say, and thus can claim a higher level of man than her perceived equal, It's more that a large sum of men are just failing and wont stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:00 PM
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The reason why this ‘women are more valuable’ mindset even exists is from the basis of women being seen as a resource that needs to be protected and not as autonomous individuals. It's more: Sex They cause less problems in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:59 PM
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I mean, they do talk about how "women get love for just existing",.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:57 PM
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They dont value those. What they call friends, we call acquaintances we do hobbies with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:56 PM
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It's more that alot of men dont want to make themselves more valuable. Women are generally considered to be more aligned, reserved, social, emotionally intelligent, well groomed, fashionable, and moral( Men CAN be all those things too. They have to want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:55 PM
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These posts don't outright say "men on average have lower human value", but they sure as hell imply it. Getting upset that criticism hurts your feelings does not make it bigotry. And it effectively is what mainstream media and culture has said for decades, while flying a feminist flag. Give an example if it's that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:52 PM
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Also, the response you tried to send me last didn't go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:47 PM
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On apps like Tinder or Hinge, the gender ratio is heavily skewed (often 70-80% male). Algorithms and swiping dynamics mean the vast majority of women's attention is concentrated on a tiny percentage of profiles. The average, decent, everyday guy can swipe for months, send thoughtful messages, and receive absolutely zero matches or feedback. This creates a severe psychological toll—a constant, exhausting feeling of being rejected, unseen, and deemed disposable by default. There was a guy who swip…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:46 PM
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But you have to also not being annoying to them either. You'd be shocked how many people my autistic cousin had to kick out of her groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:36 PM
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You gave me a study and now you basically want to throw away the study because it showed most guys aren't having a dating problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:19 PM
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Copy and paste what you are directly arguing against.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:58 PM
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You didn't and you didn't even elaborate on your belief. So bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:33 PM
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Sounds more like envy that Person B didn't have to pretend to be a good person, unlike Person A. Because why be hyper focus on them? Focus on getting a woman yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:30 PM
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Sorry, since the OP is debating in bad faith, You guys are coming up with weird definitions of Bad Faith. I’m having to stop commenting further. Because you can't argue against men expecting women to act and think like men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:29 PM
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The study says that's only 20%. The majority just prefer being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:27 PM
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Men frequently report that when they do open up or show vulnerability, they face immediate social penalties—peers view them as weak, and romantic partners often lose attraction. Me: Have you thought about regulating your emotions and communicating your feelings like an adult? Without aggression, without blame, without making it other people's problems long term? The answer I usually get:
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:25 PM
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The "suffer in silence" trope isn't a choice Women: Go to therapy. Men here:
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:23 PM
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<image> Still got your original, so I'll respond to this first: Think about the traditional 'protector' role. Most men aren't protecting shit, especially not in this sub. This sub is happy to hear when a woman got hurt and get upset when a guy risked his life being a hero. Men heavily rely on women to be the protectors of their emotional well-being Feminists have told men to let that go. They just refuse to, as I have mentioned in my post and a previous post. because society doesn't allow men to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:22 PM
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Your first article says nearly 60% of singles aren't looking. That doesn't indicate struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:12 PM
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How are you drawing the conclusion that this is the factor Most impacting men's romantic success, Read the post. like the restriction of free time in order to pick up another double shift, Are you assuming all men work the same job? the closing of third spaces that would facilitate meeting people Dating apps. Also, what's closing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:57 PM
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Then tell me, what struggles do they name.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:55 PM
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Read the whole thread for context before commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:55 PM
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But I think you're misdiagnosing the root cause for most men. But most men dont struggle that much with dating, so I couldn't be talking about most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:43 PM
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<image> That utility is in the pursuit of catharsis Because theyre whiny little babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:41 PM
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So you didn't want to actually converse like an adult. Good to know. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:28 PM
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This is a debate post and you have not been debating and you are asking questions implying you you're not reading anything. So until you do, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:27 PM
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Het people want het sex, Women aren't men. Stop expecting them to act like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:25 PM
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Men reject discussions of toxic masculinity because they've been coddled. NO. That's not what I said. I gave an explanation on it. but it might also be fear of rejection, insecure attachment, or even online communities. But how does that connection to having special snowflake syndrome? How? There may be other reasons than coddling, Okay, copy and paste what you are referencing because you're not really seeing what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:24 PM
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You keep reducing the premise to a point of absurdity. You admitted they want to bitch and do nothing. My post explains that's the effect of coddling. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:20 PM
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> for the same infraction, boys are punished much more than girls How are they labelling the infractions? Because "Male student told teacher to suck his cock" and "Female student told the teacher to shut the fuck up" are both being disrespectful to the teacher. One's just more vulgar and inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:14 PM
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This is not going to be a productive conversation unless you can grasp the ways in which guys are deliberately socialized under patriarchy to function as antisocial labor machines. Being a whiny little bitch who wants to do nothing to fix his problems actually goes hand in hand with my post's point. As I said: ".....they think that reality not bending to their whim is an injustice. They definitely don’t like when you give them solutions."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:11 PM
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Read for context.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:06 PM
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Are men starving for sexual attention or not? Clearly that "sex is a need" belief was bullshit, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:04 PM
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When they're not being discriminated against, they absolutely do have a great time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:03 PM
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but it could also be masculinity norms, But I addressed this and addressed how this relates to coddling. I'm even addressing this in other threads here. As soon as Toxic Masculinity is from up, women are told to shut up and stop shaming men. culture, education, etc. But in the West, which most of these complaints Im hearing, we dont encourage the types of behavioral problems I see when it comes to dating problems in men. your autism example does show young autistic girls and boys differ in socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:02 PM
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So are you gonna actually address what I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:54 PM
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While I do think coddling probably has an effect on social skills (well the lack thereof here...), reactions to rejection, and even views on Feminism, I feel we should not attribute it as a main reason to why some men act like that. But...then what? Because this hits most of the complaints I hear when it comes to dating and social lives for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:53 PM
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Coddling is the reason why so many guys blindly believed what their mom said because their mom gave them endless amount of validation instead of realizing that’s usually what a mom is supposed to do. Then why is that such a common problem by boys if mommy isn't coddling them? In the USA, for the same infraction, boys are punished much more severely than girls. See. Not factoring in WHY the punishment was done. You're trying to coddle right now. Any consequence is an injustice to you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:51 PM
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I’m pretty sure the “average” guys are the example. Most men get laid....so,..... There is a difference between reasonable expectation and entitlement. You're only motivated if something is guaranteed. Most people dont want to be around that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:48 PM
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Can we please stop overgeneralizing or diagnosing with one single factor as the root cause when reality is often multifactorial? Did you read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:44 PM
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[Demonstrably false](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnM6KZU_RBU). Your example was THE TALK? People dont even take THE VIEW seriously! That's like looking at Fox News to understand America. Half the country thinks Fox News is stupid. You're the one who keeps bringing up dicks. I asked you a question, you said sort of, that's a yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:42 PM
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Notice you're not explaining what's contradicting?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:39 PM
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Lately, i've been seeing people literally praising men for crying No no no no no no. Did those women reward his crying with pussy? Then its useless according to this sub!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:20 PM
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your social life is good or decent, it doesn’t mean your dating life will be good or decent But you guys have to show an example of that. Because more often than not guys who struggle with dating also don’t do well in other aspects of their life. The “guaranteed” aspects of life, not about sex. You guys got to drop the sense of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:09 PM
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None of you want to fight it. And then you complain about feminists who do try to fight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:08 PM
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You can care about something and not care enough to do something about it. That’s called being whiny. Most people find that to be annoying and unpleasant to be around. Besides, guys whining about standards aren't whining about standards they've set so much as a world they've inherited. But when women tried to change that they threw a tantrum. They just want to whine and don’t like it when people tell them no one wants to be around a little bitch boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:06 PM
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So whining about a problem they have created. If those guys actually cared about having a social life, they would realize most people find that to be annoying and don’t wanna be around them or they do shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:00 PM
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No, dating is one of those aspects in life where you have the least amount of control. It takes two to tango. If your social life is dog shit, very rarely is your dating life going to be any better. If you study in school, you’ll get good grades and likely get into the school of your choosing. You should want to go to school because it gets you educated and more opportunities in life. Not because you want Coochie. Money, follows the same path You should want money to have a higher standard of li…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:59 PM
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I'm a guy in this server who specifically isn't winging about how toxic masculinity has reinforced unhealthy dating norms for men and women Then what’s the point in talking about how patriarchy affects men if they don’t think that’s a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:57 PM
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you can grasp the ways in which guys are deliberately socialized under patriarchy to function as antisocial labor machines. Feminists: Toxic masculinity- Guys here and the redpill: SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP! FUCK YOU AND YOUR MAN HATING! STOP TELLING ME TO BE ASHAMED OF BEING A MAN! BITCH!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:53 PM
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Being controlled by those emotions, unhealthy obsessing over the unfairness of it, or giving up? Not fine But that’s precisely why I really don’t think people should be teaching kids the world is unfair, because I really think it will plummet their motivation to actually do good. It needs to be done in a way that’s more productive and encourages them to do good in the face of unfairness. world is unfair, so we work to make it as fair as we can, But to a child’s brain, that’s basically saying “ y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:51 PM
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This isn’t about life in general. Mainly focused on dating. It is about life in general. The problem is so many guys don’t give a fuck about anything else but dating
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:42 PM
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Guys don't even get their emotions validated after a point But the damage has been done by about being spoiled. So now consequences can’t teach them anything because they were taught that consequences is oppressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:38 PM
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As if this tension along gender archetypes just never existed for millennia before Disney? Eve ate from the apple first. Samson lost his powers due to trusting a traitorous women. Lot’s wife get against God, got turn into salt for it. Sarah pressured her husband to sleep with a servant just for Sarah to take the baby away. Dad was she finally had a baby on her own, she pressured her husband to get abandon the servant and the servant’s child. This is all in the bible. Even the Bible has written w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:36 PM
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The just world fallacy should be covered in school, if not at home. Doing good ≠ getting good, and doing bad ≠ getting bad ABSOLUTELY NOT. It will just lead to more whining. What they need to get over is that they’re good people. Because they’re not acting like good people. They’re acting like people who wanted a reward for baseline decency. They’re not the ones being fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:25 PM
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Now we all know you're a hypocrite I just said women either take it or leave it. I can’t be a hypocrite if I’m being consistent. Either acxept women won’t give you the type of sexual attention they themselves get or get it on Grindr.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:23 PM
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Also even if there was a lot of Mothers building up their sons egos no teenage boy is believing what their parents say while they're going through puberty its just laughable. I mean, this sub Reddit is filled with a lot of guys, who didn’t realize their family were wrong until like they were nearing 18 or even early 20s. They just blindly believed what their family said, and I was confused why because I thought children usually rebel against their parents around preteens to tween ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:21 PM
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That said, I suspect that narcissistic men with autism may be more likely to externalize these traits due to them experiencing more social rejection and romantic / sexual frustration than their female counterparts, and also being less socially astute than them on average, making their narcissism more noticeable to others. From my experience, it’s flipped around. Because their narcissism is so noticeable, they end up getting rejected more. Because like I said, who wants to be with a person who co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:16 PM
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It’s not misery to be accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:07 PM
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The thing men are lied to about is that women are infinitely caring and compassionate beings Thats what started it. Couldn’t have been true because even Disney never told their child audience that. So you lied about reality from the start and then claimed the evil women, who are NAMED EVIL, are wonderful to their core.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:05 PM
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Person A can recognise Person B is an evil person while still feeling hurt and unwanted Why is person B the only one he knows with a girlfriend? Thats weird. Do you guys understand it’s weird that you only seem to know assholes with girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:03 PM
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Women either stop dating men and/or date women. If you want to ignore what I said above because you don’t like acknowledging that women do either take it or leave it when it comes to men, that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:58 PM
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It's entirely possible for a person to do good, compassionate , empathetic things without expecting any kind of reward for it Then stop being obsessed with bullies with girlfriends. You claimed that I’m wrong, but you guys are the ones resentful that your bullies have girlfriends. if you actually cared about morals, you would say he’s filth and his girlfriend is filth for even dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:54 PM
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They either stop dating men and/or date women. You guys are acting like it’s a crisis. You don’t get the type of sexual attention that women get for men. But you don’t want sexual attention from men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:49 PM
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What objectivity If you’re gonna argue with somebody over the existence of evil characters, then we’ve already established you’re not interested in objectivity. you're writing entire lengthy essays This is….much shorter than the essay I was required to write in school. Didn’t realize my schooling was a high-quality. I guess I overestimated other people’s education.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:48 PM
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Because this subreddit is the one place these socially inept guys can vent and exchange. And we have seen the rise of social ineptness in Gen Z and gen Alpha, so it cant be rare when its becoming a societal problem. You said the problem is "their mom gave them endless amount of validation". I actually said more than that, please actually read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:45 PM
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It's a way better argument It’s not because there’s literal evidence of evil women in Disney. That also proves my point in my post, about not seeing things objectively, but seeing what you want to see. While you're over here writing a novel Holy shit, you think an essay is a novel?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:29 PM
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I’m focusing on men because they’re the most vocal about their dating problems and how it’s all the fault of their Mommy and society lying to them. And I think it’s really more that they were spoiled and coddled by a toxic boy mom. A mother who never enforced accountability or manage their expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:27 PM
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You know as well as I do that it's not about 'what mummy told them'. That was literally what was said to me in my last post. So I’m just supposed to disregard what men have actually said just because it makes men look bad once exposed? What causes confusion is when those same boys are told they should do all of the above, but also should be a nice person (to the girls and everyone else), that they should be kind and helpful and patient, not be a bully, not be a creep, be a 'gentleman' but also t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:21 PM
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These are very rare scenarios. Sure Then why are these common complaints I see amongst men, especially in this subreddit? I was well taken care of by my parents, they gave me a ton of validation, and I'm still doing great socially today What does that have to do with my post? Did you actually read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:17 PM
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Have you ever lived as a boy or a man? Lmao. “You dont know what its like to be me!” is not an argument. Because the story you are telling yourself almost never happens. Disney has never told boys to think all women are great, perfect and loving beings, and yet plenty grown men think that it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:10 PM
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Coddling is the reason why so many guys blindly believed what their mom said because their mom gave them endless amount of validation instead of realizing that’s usually what a mom is supposed to do. I love that you missed this part right above what you quoted. Guys, getting fake offended and mislabeling something as sexism is not an argument. In fact, this proves my point in the post because you guys see criticism as an injustice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:00 PM
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Hetero women are shown to be much more flexible and fluid in their sexuality and who they are attracted to. Where as hetero men are much more rigid in who they are attracted to and much more likely to only be attracted to women. So women dont think or behave like men. GET OVER IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:56 PM
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but out of 8 billion people I don't think there's actually that many. This post was created because of how many guys complained about how they were lied to because Mommy kept telling him he was God’s gift to earth. If it’s not that many, why are these common complaints from the male population?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:42 PM
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So even guys don’t appreciate male sexual attention, but you wanna get mad when women also don’t. So clearly you guys aren’t starving for sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:37 PM
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A person’s low self-esteem and desperation for validation is not other people’s responsibility. I’m sorry some people had bad parents, but that is not society‘s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:28 PM
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We do, you guys just insult them as little soy boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:18 PM
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They don’t hate conforming to masculinity. They hate how hard it is to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:18 PM
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Entitlement. That’s just entitlement. You guys need to get over yourselves. Not everyone is your mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:16 PM
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….. guys, you have to ask yourself what you have a value to justify you getting special treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:13 PM
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Just because your ex So only he’s the one who has a victim complex? So only he’s the one whose actions did it match his words? You have never met anyone else like that? that doesn't mean everyone who wants validation is like that. Also, I brought up other people. You guys just don’t want to acknowledge that. He followed a pattern where people who were the most desperate for validation gave people the least reasons to validate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:08 PM
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Notice how you conflated being Chad with being desired. That’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:01 PM
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There is no correlation between the two because he wanted validation but did not care about others. The fact you guys can’t see the connection is the problem. That does not mean everyone is like that What does that have to do with the conversation? Where did this come from? Do you guys get that uncomfortable when a guy is being called out you need to have a fake reason to get offended? I do care about people who validate me He said the same thing too. Actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:00 PM
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It is a mental health issue, but they don’t want to fix it no matter how much reality has punished them for not fixing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:58 PM
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He basically expected me to always validate him and tell him that he’s doing the best. But the moment I expect something from him, he wants to bring up his personal issues. The moment I leave him because I couldn’t handle his personal issues, he absolutely panicked. People who seek validation don’t really give two shits about other people, but they never understood that’s why they’re never getting a big flow of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:59 AM
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I actually have an ex like this and a couple of former friends like this. They crave for you to treat them like they’re special. In their pursuit of validation, they won’t admit it’s destroyed their real life social life, causing them to have even less validation. Mainly because they’re too stupid to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:33 AM
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No, they care about feeling like Chad. They would rather chase fantasy, no matter how much it damages their reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:32 AM
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See. Its that porn fantasy they always wanna chase. They think calling it “True desire” makes it any less stupid. You’re not Chad. Stop expecting Chad treatment. Having sex with your partner shouldn't be about competing between her other partners If you dont care about people and call them as NPCs in your life story, why wouldn't you see it as a competition? It should be about the experience with her. They don’t even give a fuck about her personality. Why would you even think about other men hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:29 AM
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Sort of. It's not that women didn't develop compassion and empathy for men. We just want you guys to stop making everything about your cocks. Women are by and large thrilled when other women cut men's dicks off You bring up me strawmannirg and you just imply that you only know psychotic violent women. I'm not claiming that men care about each other Women are more likely to support causes that also helps out men. You guys just dont care. Because they use it as a cudgel to demonize men, You just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:04 PM

Disagree you can see how lied to people are, They intentionally misread what was told to them. That's usually how I see them get "lied to". even here you see people acting like men live some kind of easy mode life No, you guys intentionally make things hard for yourselves and then wonder why you're unpopular or hang around trashy women. Point 4 explores this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:15 PM

We know that women CAN experience true sexual desire, You're doing right now. Why do you guys keep thinking porn is real? Because popular media has created a narrative where the average, What popular media?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:13 PM

He did not hate his son. Literally choked his child. You think all mainstream media is created only by men for men? Name the media that lied to boys that was written by women. Go ahead. Find them. Porn is mostly for men but it's also created by women for men. Oh the directors were female? How many? What percentage? Women have smut novels that delude their views of men. Right, so you know men are just as bad. Why you denying it? You need to stop blaming men for everything. Seems more like you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:07 PM

I have to say, 'men are deluded because of porn!' sounds like the most ridiculous premise. Then why do their expectations of life and dating sounds like porn? Like way to give men absolutely no credit for understanding fantasy and make-believe Other men understand neckbeards exist. I dont know why you didn't. However... I have been part of some exchanges here in which men explicitly said their expectations for what genuine female sexual desire looks like is: porn. So what are you getting offende…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:03 PM

Porn addiction is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:53 PM

This point is quite funny, because it shows that your just can't form a theory of mind. Of course those guys are mentally man children. That's why they blindly believe porn. Men genuinely are attracted to women merely for existing No they're not. Guys here even bitch about fat women. . The redpill frames women as materialistic. then why wont they just pay for it instead of bitching? Because they dont want to believe that. Just like you, there's nothing it has to say on love or relationship. Then…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:49 PM

For this to follow we would have to treat sex as the main goal rather than relationships This sub and the manosphere makes it very clear that is the case. Many 90s movies and family would often highlight other characteristics of dating other than looks ( which sometimes still happens in this very sub) There's nothing wrong with that. It's just guys here want to be the broke loser asshole who gets women from looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:44 PM

it absolutely hinders your ability to attract and keep women, Only when its an addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:42 PM

most men are not like this Where did I say otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:42 PM

I think main stream media is more to blame for this than porn. But WHAT mainstream media. I'm not getting an answer on that. That's why I think it's porn. No guy goes into porn thinking it's real aside from maybe how intercourse is physically performed on the opposite sex. But why is it they sound like porn fantasies they want real? Homer Simpson, Homer Simpson is an idiot that gets in trouble and hates his son. the nice guys that ended up getting the girl over the Chad in a huge majority or mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:37 PM

Most men do NOT get laid Statistics say otherwise. Why do you have to be disrespectful as if being gay is bad YOU GUYS THINK IT IS. It's not a coincidence the type of complainers are also homophobic. You guys are all desperate for sexual validation until I remind you about Grindr. Either way the fact most ugly/mid adults aren’t chosen They are. Thing is they aren't insufferable and they have some money on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:35 PM

This is not true. Most men know it's their own fault. Most men aren't going around claiming society lied to them about women and dating either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:27 PM

You’ll catch more with honey than vinegar Right so why are guys insisting on being assholes and wondering why people dont like them? You also have to understand most women go after a small percentage of men Most men get laid. Thats what you guys aren't understanding. most guys aren’t chosen the same as most women Grindr's available if that's what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:25 PM

Copy it? How about read your own damn post! I can't find what you claim I said, so I guess you talked to a straw man. Its abundantly clear that your mind is made up and you just want to be defensive That's all you've been doing and you cant prove I claimed anything you said I did. Open your ears and think instead of jumping to massive false assumptions You cant even prove what you think I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:48 PM

Problem is, they always call it bad luck, even if it's"bad luck of genes". Anything BUT "I'm the problem"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:46 PM
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I notice you haven't explained where the straw men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:44 PM

You, like many women these days, are severely overestimating the impact of porn on our minds Then why the fantasies guys thought was reality so porn-based? No, we don’t expect women to be insatiably horny the moment they catch a whiff of testosterone. But why is that always when when asking about what "Men feel invisible" and "Men want ACTUAL sexual desire from women" mean? But god forbid a man indulge in the fantasy of being sexually desirable and suddenly he’s “entitled to women’s attention”. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:38 PM

Feminists spent years denying that asymmetry even exists Men dont have to approach. Men dont have to date. And with online dating its easier to not approach women and still get matches. Women approach too. Women initiate just as much. And when a woman's interested, you'll know, it's obvious and in your face Youre definitely cherry picking, because feminists have never said these things. Theyre too busy addressing political issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:34 PM

These men need to learn how to see women as humans that you can befriend and stay friends even if they say no. I don’t think they see men as people either. Because they are also men they just project how they feel onto other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:29 PM

If you're going to say an entire gender is stupid and 'needs to touch grass' Good thing it didnt happen here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:27 PM

No one told you that’s what equality meant. You decided to take it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:12 PM

But the messaging from earlier had already done its damage. But why are you blindly believing them? Plenty of children start rebelling even in elementary school but it’s usually middle school. Because the same adults became goalpost pushers and said "Don't worry about it in high school! Girls will chase you around college!" So you literally never bothered wearing the right types of clothes because you hoped women would fuck you regardless? So you didn’t even want to wear the right fitted clothes…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:10 PM

it was feminists They have been very vocal about telling men that they’re not entitled to women. So it can’t be them. The truth is that to get dates as a man you have to do a TON OF WORK Who told men otherwise? That's not true, if you're a HALF DECENT nice person, women will pursue you, ask you out and make the moves. If it’s that popular for feminists to say, you should be able to find evidence of this. feminist said well you must suck and be a horrible person No, through their actions they hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:09 PM

Besides, a naive 16 year old buck That is way too old to be believing your parents so blindly. It still does not take away the string of wasting my teens and twenties Why was that not a problem as soon as you turned 18?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:04 PM

If women want better behavior from men, then they need to not even start having casual sex with men They could just choose not to focus on hook up culture, but they’re gonna focus on it because that’s what they want. Until they do, there will always be a class of men who at the very least complain about women Because they can’t handle their fantasies, won’t be a reality. That’s what a child does. and men will always be trying to have casual sex with women, often in boorish ways Hey actions, meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:02 PM

But then why do they act like it’s a society failing that doesn’t happen in reality? Most people don’t have stepsister, so that works too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:00 PM

You mean the media written by guys to appeal to guys, just like with porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:57 PM

Point to where you did that?? The fifth word of your headline!! Copy and paste it. Youre perpetuating toxic masculinity if youre shaming men for watching porn Then are not perpetuating, toxic masculinity. I’m addressing it. You wanna talk about patriarchy and repressed emotion, violence, insanity? Take away porn and watch how much worse things get. You just perpetuated toxic masculinity. That’s the type of talk that gets even the US government to label guys who like that as a national threat. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:49 PM

You've taken a way too extreme position as to what modern men want. Most men don’t cry about how society lie them and they don’t complain about the things I’m talking about. Above all, modern men want a basic understanding of the generalities of female desire A lot of men choose to ignore it and get mad that it’s not like men’s. If women are generally slow cookers on desire, OK. But men can't have it rubbed in their faces that some men do seem to generate very fast desire. THEY WANT to focus on …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:41 PM

It came from society But you’re not giving an explanation where society said any of the stuff that came out. I gave you four plots that would give them the ideas they have. You’re not doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:38 PM

So? A normal adult understand that’s fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:37 PM

The supposedly caring adults in my life did. Why are you guys just blindly believing them? That’s not society‘s fault. Instead of telling me to, say, know my clothing size You’re an adult, learn it yourself now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:35 PM

This might be true for some incredibly stupid men, That’s the point, these guy keep insisting society lied to them and it comes off that they’re not actually paying attention to society. You’re massively overgeneralizing putting men Point to where I did that. in an inherently patriarchal role This sub gets mad when you bring up toxic masculinity and that they don’t have to pay for date that they dont want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:34 PM

So there is some truth in the fact that true romantic desire usually manifests pretty quickly No, it’s not. You’re proving my point you’re conflating lust with romance. Most married men I know had sex with their now wives very early on Because you hang out with people who think like you. In my country of the USA that’s not the norm. Side note, guys who DO want hook up’s can get them relatively easily. Figures they usually date women who have their same mindset. Inceldom is created by men who wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:31 PM

Yes, but their worldview is shaped by culture. No, it’s not, they’re picking and choosing what to consume. It can’t be shaped by culture because culture kept telling them that’s not reality. Women also buy the prince-Cinderella dynamics Culture didnt tell women that’s real. Women also buy the prince-Cinderella dynamics, and then pick few rare real world examples to support it Exactly that’s what they chose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:25 PM

So the problem is intellectual laziness. You guys want one person to tell you all the answers and be done with it instead of you actually taking the time to understand people. That’s why you’re fisherman analogy doesn’t work because a fisherman who’s not doing research on the pond he’s in and the type of fish that’s in there is a dumb lazy one. A good fisherman studies the pond, the fish, the season, the bait, and the conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:18 PM

You’re not explaining where it came from then. All this talk about understanding, men and women and it seems like the red pill can’t understand men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:14 PM

BUT, we all know that what we learn from age 1-4 is the most memorable/definining to a human No, it’s not. People rarely ever remember their life during that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:14 PM

Blackpill/WANIM clearly states its an issue caused evolution shaping incentives So they want to be rewarded for being decent people despite the fact they’re not decent people they have nothing else of valued to people. That’s just a sense of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:13 PM

But who’s telling them that if they’re really good boys they’ll be rewarded in sex? Because I don’t think adult women are telling that to their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:10 PM

Well in my specific example it was female peers. Was it all of your peers or just the ones willing to talk to you? Because it seems you guys never noticed you guys gravitate towards particular type of people. So should I be one of those guys who “listens to the fisherman and not the fish” You guys aren’t even researching the type of fish you’re getting. That’s very poor planning on the fisherman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:09 PM

exactly the somebody for everyone impression So these guys are picking and choosing things that conform with their worldview and then want to act like that’s everyone else’s fault that’s not reality? Again, separating fiction from reality is default expectation A large sum of people are not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:07 PM

You can want something while knowing you will never get it So then, why did they keep acting like that’s a societal problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:06 PM

Idk, definitely not men Then, where are these guys getting these fantasies to the point they’re writing them for a male audience? Indeed but familly isn't porn But the next question is are people actually telling them that being nice would get them laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:03 PM

The Venn diagram of things I was told to 100% avoid and things that work with women is a circle. But who told you these things? Because I’m starting to think a lot of your mom’s boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:01 PM

Who thinks these fantasies are realities? Then why are these such common complaints by men? Who told them being nice was gonna get them pussy? Who told them women were gonna be horny for them just by existing? Who? Most men thinking they are going to have a relationship with desire Most men dont complain that women on the streets arent horny for them nor that niceness didnt get them laid either. They also think the redpill is dumb and caters to losers dumb enough to get scammed. women in their f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:55 PM

No guy is watching porn and thinking that. Society is the that lied So why are all the complaints men have about dating sounds like porn plots? How many times have you ever heard that nice guys finish last From other men mad that being nice didn’t get them pussy, but who told them that it was gonna guarantee them pussy, other than each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:49 PM

The problem is actually exactly the opposite, mommy never took care of his needs (as a baby, toddler) They wouldnt blindly believe what she says if she was that negligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:47 PM

But who told him to believe all the shit they believed? According to them, someone told them something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:45 PM

Of course it sounds silly. You’re arguing with a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:42 PM

Yes, it is, you just don’t like hearing that truth. Most of you aren’t hot enough for personality to not matter. That’s the real reason why you guys are upset because you see exceptions and you’re not exceptional enough to be an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:39 PM

sometimes it's about the chances you never took when they were presented in front of you on a silver platter Then explain point 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:37 PM

If a man watches porn regularly (e. g. once a day) it seems to me like a life long commitment Because it validates his ego. That’s why I say it comes from porn. Porn tells them they don’t have to do any sort of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:36 PM

Society is the one gaslighting people “Hey guys, don’t think it’s a big deal that a large sum of guys are misogynist” and the fact you think people shouldn’t be concerned when a large group of men make forums talking about how it’s funny that people are getting slaughtered for being Chads and Stacies is hilarious. That’s never gonna happen so you might as well get that out your brain immediately Only chronically online people believe that a minority of unselected men are a problem A lot of incel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:24 PM

But atleast you do admit that its a lie that being nice and having personality is whats gets you women, unlike most blue pillers here. You guys keep proving society didnt lie to you because you keep lying about people told you. It proves you guys will intentionally miss read and mishear what people say so it can fit your negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:20 PM

Did you ask someome that or did you assume and then blame other people when that’s not what they mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:19 PM

I clicked the first non-blackpill vide Because you guys gravitate towards conventionally attractive women. That’s why you guys get angry. The point is that she is giving misinformation r/AteTheOnion it’s a good way to describe it. You fell for something that was clearly satire. Do you think comedians are always doing a bit? Most of the time they are on their social media, especially TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:18 PM

Damn bro you got hands Exactly, go use them and actually copy and paste the definition of society. Because I noticed you didn’t explain to me what definition of society are you using to just mean your parents. You can’t blame people telling children to value education if you’re not gonna do the basic thing education tells you which is to do research and look up definitions of words instead of making up your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:16 PM

Sensationalist fake media are made about them to generate fear You’re not going to gaslight society into thinking unhinged delusional men isn’t a problem. Just because it hurts your feelings that people consider the red pill and incels a problem doesn’t mean we’re gonna consider it less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:13 PM

It is not a lie. Exactly because no one told you that’s what equality meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:11 PM

You have to pick the right woman (who is already horny for you), They refused to because they think all women are the same because porn made them think that every woman super horny as a default for every man. value her big time for being super horny for you They’re not, because porn told them that they’re entitled to that kind of behavior. and reward her by marring her.. What porn do you watch that ends in marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:11 PM

Fathers are equally to blame And yeah, the only thing you want to talk about is women until you’re pressed on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:09 PM

Women themselves on reddit say that women aren't as looks driven as men Most of you arent hot enough for other factors not to matter. You guys will only care about a woman who’s sexy and shows off your titties, women aren’t that impressed by guys who shows off their chest if he’s an insufferable broke prick. As for your question that he should have asked that specifically, that makes no sense So he didn’t ask the right question and now he’s mad he got the wrong answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:08 PM

if you don’t include child-parent You think society is only parents? Is that what the definition of society said? The definition of society is your parents It’s a cultural expectation that you tell children to value education above all else Part of education is knowing to look up definitions of words not making up your own definitions. Being taught to value education doesn’t mean children value education.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:06 PM

It is embarrassing that women are responsible Then tell men to take care of their kids more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:04 PM

I am a man. I as a man can have spontaneous attraction So you lied to yourself. You assumed this was the case instead of actually confirming it that was the case. Does not change the fact that he is starting from behind and the damage is already done. That’s his fault that he wants to keep being a whiny little man baby feeling like a victim all his life. Other people have grown out of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:03 PM

What is “society” define it You have the Internet, google it. This actually proves my point that a lot of you don’t want to learn you want everyone to spoon feed it like everyone’s your mommy. I don’t really understand the definition you’re using if parents and educators You guys need to actually learn on your own instead of expecting everyone to teach you. Let me repeat myself, not everyone is your Mommy. Learn to be competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:58 PM

It is the logical conclusion The fact that you can’t explain how you got to that conclusion says something. Sure. And the consequences of being raised poorly are not his fault. He still has to grow and learn out of it like every other person race poorly did. Thinking he deserves an endless supply of pity is entitlement and manchild behavior. Those were created by the one that told him that ruining the water supply is a good thing to do. The refusal to learn otherwise it’s his fault and it is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:56 PM

She clearly has a sarcastic tone. And she also said give me an ugly man. She clearly can spot someone that’s not attractive . She’s also a comedian. What a conincidence thats she’s also conventionally attractive. I finally read the Twitter thing: what a coincidence it’s a hot girl showing off titties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:53 PM

Most men don't believe porn is real life wrt its scenario so this argument doesn't make any sense. Most men also don’t talk about how lonely and invisible they feel. If people were to ask men what do men like in women, the men would give physical as well So? That didnt change my point. It’s not women’s fault these guys were too stupid to realize physical attraction still mattered. He should have asked that specifically. Most adults are not your mommy. We’re not gonna cater to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:50 PM

Look at those goalposts fly, “nobody lied to you” to “you should have known they were lying” No way Mommy told you guys that if you’re nice you’re gonna be rewarded in pussy. Except maybe Epstein‘s and Maxwell‘s children. Also, I said society didn’t lie to you. So you’re the one who’s moving the goal post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:48 PM

Equality did. I am a man. I as a man can have spontaneous attraction Talks of Equality has never told men this. We were told that in many ways by many people in our lives. There comes a time in a normal adult’s life where they have to admit they were raised poorly. Nothing wrong with that. Hearing a guy bitch about how he’s dehydrated after we keep watching him ruin his water supply is extremely annoying. We’re not giving you sympathy for your own problems that you created.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:47 PM

Porn didn’t make men unrealistic about sex But who let them to believe all these fantasies could be a reality? Because they couldn’t have came up with this on their own. Too many of them are thinking the same thing. Most women watch porn too and we don’t expect pizza boys to look like they do in porn Most pizza boys don’t look hot in porn. It’s only very recently that mainstremmedia had tried to give women entertainment that caters to them. Also, it’s how men are wired that gets the more suscept…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:43 PM

Aside from men who have detached from reality But they’re not a tiny little minority. They’re becoming a public problem like Incels and Redpill. “Nice guys finish last” would it be a common phrase? If very few men are detaching themselves from reality to that extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:40 PM

Men don’t associate porn with real life romantic pursuits Men here keep saying they can’t find women who truly find them attractive because she’s not sucking his cock after the first three dates. unless they are the type of guys that want to “hook up”. They constantly conflate the two. But this doesn’t apply to the majority of guys in the real world. That doesn’t make any less of a problem because it’s such a big minority of guys that do it. They end up becoming incels or redpilled, getting bitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:38 PM

But there is media where that doesn’t happen. So it seems more like they just hyper focus on a media that strokes their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:36 PM

The real lie is the somebody for everyone narrative Even I knew how full of shit that was considering how there were plenty of celebrities on their 3rd divorce. There were people who struggled with dating, even before involuntary celibate became a thing. but if the whole culture pushes that, it becomes harder to dismiss. It’s not hard, you just have to stop only focusing on things that boost your ego. Giving this any significance is a huge overstatement But its a large minority. If incels and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:34 PM

So I doubt it is porn, it’s likely mommy and grandma, and the men believed them. That’s even more embarrassing and it shows where the problem lies. Because Mommy was coddling them so much they really assumed everyone else would.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:30 PM
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He won’t have a choice because he wants somebody to stroke his ego all the time, but he’s not hot enough nor rich enough to have an endless supply of validation like he wants. And honestly, I would even go as far to say that’s a common problem when it comes to men dating. They want someone to treat them like they’re Chad, but they’re not hot enough to maintain that type of treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:12 AM
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That sort of just sounds like a situationship Situationships are more sex based. He did try to make it sexual but the minute he acted like it was too inconvenient to come see me, I immiediately cut that off. Two months later, he came crawling crying, swearing he would never ask sexual favors from me again. We stayed friends for over a decade. But when we tried to make dating work again, he came back with that same bullshit. He didn’t outright say it, but it was very obvious. He kept going throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:03 AM
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Btw, that is the same guy who wrote this: The majority of men are next-to-Invisible and get zero sexual attention from women. Whereas the majority of women get too much sexual attention from men starting from a very young age. This has created a world where men find being physically desired extremely validating, because it's such a rare thing for them to receive. So it’s very clear their starvation for validation is a consequence of them treating people poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:53 AM
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That's a risk women run when they try to use sex to secure commitment. And then men want to cry when women stop doing that and how they feel invisible to the world. The majority of men are next-to-Invisible and get zero sexual attention from women. Whereas the majority of women get too much sexual attention from men starting from a very young age. This has created a world where men find being physically desired extremely validating, because it's such a rare thing for them to receive. Remember wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:43 AM
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Haven’t been in a Situationship, but have been in one of those it’s complicated situations. Because the other person makes it seem like you’re dating, but after a while, it’s very clear that the situation is not progressing anywhere. Also, the other person act like an emotional wreck once you end things. This is typically a problem I have heard, from gay men to straight women, where guys want a casual person to act like their romantic partner. And it hurts their ego extremely bad once you treat …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:42 AM
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I make this statement as someone who's friends with women, dates women exclusively, and has roommated with women. You guys overestimate the variety of women you actually know. If you talk to a woman, though.especially one you're close with she'll talk to you like she never makes a mistake at all. Guys do that too, especially the redpill. Say "Your personality is most likely the problem" and those guys will tell you how it's totally not. And for all of these, I feel like men just complain less. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:33 AM
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Women did not develop compassion/empathy for men First question, does it pertain to the penis? This explains why men created an entire code of rules such as a male-only draft, Liberals, who are majority women, also want the draft abolished. It's conservative men who dont. In fact, redpillers I talked to here also dont want the draft abolished. This concept has become known in modern gender debate circles as "male disposability" It's enforced by men, but none of you here actually care. The moment…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:27 AM
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And I combined it with substantive arguments and points, So have I and you didn't like it. and it was in response to you acting like women's standards should be blindly obeyed without question And I responded how ridiculous that sounds to imply basic things for cleanliness is dictatorship. How is that not an authoritarian mentality? “I cant leave my clothes and dirty dishes everywhere? What a Fidel Castro!" “ I can’t ball up my clean clothes and shove them everywhere? Why are you being a communi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:52 AM
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you cannot help the helpless. You guys are ending arguments because you can't handle being challenged. That's pretty helpless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:22 AM
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Imagine needing moral support of a debate post. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:22 AM
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There's no productive conversation with someone who just caricatures, strawmans, insults, and dismisses everything I say. You just called people dictators for having cleaning standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:21 AM
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I don’t think it’s trauma. I think it’s being spoiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:14 PM
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It’s never a coincidence every time guys here talk about the average woman, they always describe the most desirable woman. Popular with guys, slutty, can be absolutely appalling behavior wise but it barely hurts her dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:41 PM
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Since you consider 80% of women drop dead Most women arent getting compliments like that, so thanks for admitting you only hang out with Stacies. Like holy shit, porn has ruined so many of your brains you really think a hot girl is average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:31 PM

He is tall, good-looking, and charismatic. Most men are not that and will never be that. Stop chasing fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:29 PM
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A gay man will hit on a straight man GRINDR. There is your solution. GRINDR.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:26 PM
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That's reserved for the ladies You guys only care about Stacies. Youre no better than the women you complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:25 PM
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The fact women consider average men to be equally desirable as straight men desire gay men Thats not what I said. You wanna higher of return on effort to get sex. There’s no better place to get it then on Grindr.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:21 PM
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Everyone knows that it's women who consider nothing but 8/10 men as being attractive. Women get compliments on their clothes and on their accessories. A woman getting compliments on merely existing is a woman that is dropped dead gorgeous. It’s just you guys like to claim those women are average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:19 PM

I’ve seen how women act when they’re actually attracted to men Who was the guy? Do you actually know those women? What value do those men have in order for them to be wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:13 PM
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Guys can just dump her and date someone who’s as filthy as he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:04 PM

So turns out when guys say “Most guys are invisible to women” they mean “Women wont finger themselves when they see some random stranger in public or a first date like they do in porn and that's not unfair.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:01 PM

In this post, a woman explains why men thinking women are attracted to stereotypes like height and money is overrated. There are dozens of comments agreeing with this, agreeing with the sentiment "if only men knew what women actually like". Mainly because a lot of guys won’t admit, they like the shallow gold digging types of women. Usually because she’s extremely hot The problem with this is, when men do the same and say things like "I'm actually attracted to women who don't wear makeup", women …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:46 PM
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If they’re able to have it go on long-term. But from my experience, most can’t because they have nothing of value for people to put up with their shit long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:39 PM
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Here’s the lyrics that this complaint reminds me of: Have you ever been to a birthday party for children? And one of the children won't stop screaming? 'Cause he's just a little attention-attractor When he grows up to be a comic or actor He'll be rewarded for never maturing For never understanding or learning That every day can't be about him "There's other people, you selfish asshole!" Men, you gotta grow the fuck up and stop wanting to feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:37 PM
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The group of men stereotyped for being more into fashion are visually aroused by men Congratulations, you finally stopped pretending its about compliments. How about guys stop being lazy and give people a reason to call you sexy? It’s so extremely entitled you guys act like you are victims because you do nothing to garner attraction at any level. There’s a song that describe this problem, let me find it. It’s extremely annoying you guys act like you’re complaining about something else and then w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:33 PM
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But that’s mainly because they’re dumb. Because someone of decent IQ wouldn’t allow that to happen to the point where they end up in a bad situation. These people are so dumb, they will keep putting themselves in bad situations and then become shocked that they’re in a bad situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:31 PM

The other problem is that women have a higher standard on what they considered a friendship. Guys are more likely to just call a bunch of acquaintances they do hobbies with friends. Women are not like that. Hence, women are more likely to model their friendships into relationships. A lot of guys are falling in that department, especially since they’ll let their penis do the thinking for them. EDIT: That doesn’t mean looks don’t matter to women, but very often they’re not enough. No, its because …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:56 PM
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I don’t know why you guys think it’s such a win to be confident that you gave up a debate because you could no longer defend your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:51 PM
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So, there are more than one then, therefore "no one" is already invalid in the same sentence It’s not a strawman because you didn’t realize you were gloating about stupid women still being available to men who are confident on their stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:24 PM
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You don't want to negotiate fair standards Being filthy while you have a roommate is not fair. you want to be a domestic dictator “I cant leave my clothes and dirty dishes everywhere? What a Fidel Castro! proper way and other domestic tasks that have nothing to do with cleanliness or filth? “ I can’t ball up my clean clothes and shove them everywhere? Why are you being a communist?!” You can't demand to equalize the workplace But then doing equal work at home is oppressive to you? Thats what spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:21 PM
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Filth by whose standards? Proving my point. Instead of just being clean, you guys wanna argue that being filthy is OK then wanna get mad when you get dumped over being filthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:13 PM
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No one ever talks about weaponized domestic entitlement or weaponized overfunctioning Only a child/toddler gets mad when their roommate tells them to stop living in filth. There's also this weird double standard where housework is real, complex, emotionally laborious work that deserves respect and recognition when women are trying to be super feminist Because you guys call it entitlement when your roommate doesn’t want to live in your filth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:00 PM
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Some people weight things differently Toddlers typically weigh themselves over everyone else. That’s why I’m calling these people toddlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:57 PM
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Some men overlook household chores If you’re being told something and you repeatedly ignore it, that’s overlooking something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:37 PM
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It's a euphemism Being hyperbolic is not going to give you sympathy. A man is not invisible just because his porn isn’t reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:35 PM

didn't mention custody in my last post at all So you don’t think custody is that much of an issue? I think it's a great thing that women have the choice If you actually cared about custody, why aren’t you concerned about men just date by around for a babysitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:35 PM
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I'm saying men are erroneously doing things to get them complimented. But in the current year, more than enough women have been vocal about what they like and don’t like men doing. IMO it's because of silly rhetoric like "men and women are the same" When it’s something like listening to what’s being told, men and women are the same. It’s just a matter of if you want to listen. So you think women are putting in extra effort to get complimented? Thats not what I said. Where did I say that? When wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:33 PM
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If you guys don’t like people criticizing you, then maybe don’t complain online?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:25 PM
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It’s not excusable just because it’s not “intentional” But it’s not intentional. They’re just stupid. Set reminders in your phone, Did you tell them to? Children aren’t gonna think of that on their own usually, especially if they don’t register what you’re saying is important. do what you’re told the first time you were asked Toddlers don’t do that and children definitely don’t do that either even though they hear the words. It’s 2026 - let’s not enable babies Expecting babies to do what adults …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:57 PM
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THOSE FATHERS are stupid. Because in this day and age, she can just dump him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:45 PM

You mean guys who complain that they are forced to pay will tell you why they are forced to pay. “But I’ll have no one” well I showed them statistics in America that about 25% of the female population doesn’t mind paying for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:39 PM

Proving my point. Not only have you shown you don’t actually see custody as a real issue pertaining to the child, you think it’s a great thing that a man basically just finds girlfriends to be a babysitter for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:36 PM
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Men send unsolicited dick pics So men go out their way to do things that won’t get them complimented and then wanna act like that’s a societal problem? I also tell people that's why there's the nudes disconnect At this point, those guys are just dumb. Women are hesitant to do it, even in situations Cosplayers get complimented all the time. It’s because they put effort into it. Guys really got to stop playing stupid and actually learn about the world around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:35 PM
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Guys, stop rewriting what words mean just because you don’t like that your porn fantasies aren’t real.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:30 PM
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As long as you guys take responsibility for it, no one cares you guys want stupid women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:30 PM
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Being shocked by the outcome isn't the same thing as not realizing you did it. Right, because they’re stupid. think that people who employ weaponized incompetence are shocked because they expected it to work better than it did. Right, because theyre stupid. Guys will try and be the head of two different families without any of them finding out Well, it doesn’t work as an example because that rarely happens nowadays. It was easier back in the day where we didn’t have social media and that a man’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:28 PM
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I don’t know why you guys think being a hypocrite is a win. Also, in terms of dating, no one wants a guy who’s that confident in being stupid unless she’s also that stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:43 PM
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So as I expected, this is about you, not wanting to address when men are clearly in the wrong. Ironically, this sub talks about women having an In Group bias, but you guys have a much stronger In Group bias for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:36 PM
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You're using exaggerated examples of easy requests Thats you doing that. I even gave you a real life example that you also intentionally ignore. And the one with the higher standards is responsible for keeping up with their standards Like replacing him with a man who isn’t a toddler about cleaning. The issue is you guys wanna act like victims when you guys want to ignore people‘s request and warnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:33 PM
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guess, but you're probably going to run into the same problems with other men Bigotry of low expectation. Are you saying most men live like pigs in a pig pen? You can find men who cook/clean and are tidy, but they can demand a lot from women. Unlike most of the guys here, most people understand the concept of cost benefit analysis. If manchildren understood that concept, they would understand being a manchild isn’t worth the cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:28 PM
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The reason i am using an exaggerated scenario is to illustrate that people have different standards and some standards can be unreasonable . So you deliberately ignored when I gave you the more reasonable requests not being done? Are you guys allergic to men being in the wrong? Or do you think that vacuuming even once is a lot and unreasonable to tell a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:23 PM
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And it is indeed weaponized incompetence to excuse the lack of emotional skills with "a stunted toddler brain". That’s a woman’s choice if she wants to be with the man who thinks like a toddler. I wouldn’t. There's therapy, there's working on emotional/conversational/listening skills, there's countless options for someone who - as an adult! But do children like going to school? Most of the time no. lacks that many aspects of emotional maturity. Right, like children and toddlers. It goes beyond n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:20 PM
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Let's say a man wants a woman to vacuum 35 times a day. We have men who struggled to vacuum even once. You trying to come up with this exaggerated situation doesn’t change the problem. For a real life example, I kept warning my ex to stop making me a laugh priority at using work as an excuse. He didn’t listen, and then once I finally broke up with him, he acted shocked and devastated that I wanted to leave when he used work as an excuse to never bond with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:12 PM
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'Weaponized incompetence' is something entitled women came up with for men who won't fix their problems for them It would just be easier to dump him for somebody who doesn’t expect her to be the only one to clean the house all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:10 PM
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Someone not having the same standards as you isn't them being a toddler. “Just because someone doesnt same standard if not shitting their pants doesnt make them a toddler!” You can technically apply that to anything else. Women demanding men do x y and z are not by default correct. Then men should stop bitching when they are dumped “out of nowhere”. If guy stopped bitching about being alone due to the consequences of their actions, people wouldn’t constantly criticize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:04 PM
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None of you debate in good faith either, the difference is I’m not using that as an excuse to not debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:02 PM
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Everyone lives in their own mind, has their own biases Thats not whats being discussed. and thinks they are correct Only dumbasses think they’re always correct, because they end up refusing to learn. Probably why so many of them pretend they were lied to by other people when it was a lie they told themselves. Relying on your partner to pick up on hints or People do not want to parent another adult. If being told the same thing over and over again, doesn’t click in a person’s head to do something…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:50 PM
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Copy and paste it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:23 PM
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Because you guys described desirability as something, you’re only going to find in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:19 PM
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However, men who've never experienced desirability tend to pedestalize it. But from what I have seen, what they call desirability is a porn fantasy where they show up in front of a woman, and she’s just begging for his cock in her mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:18 PM

Which isn’t happening. You guys just don’t want to admit a large group of guys here have very stupid beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:17 PM

It's not "weird" for two different guys Its not two different guys. I have two posts addressing men who complain about paying and jestering for women, when you tell them they don’t have to do that. They will immediately come up with excuses why they will continue to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:16 PM
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I think deep down they know the women they want aren't going to tolerate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:04 AM
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Women simply exist. You guys only look at Stacies if you think that's the norm for women. They think their grooming is what leads to compliments It does and the compliments typically come from other women. Most men don't get laid much compared to their efforts. Grindr
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:03 AM
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If she's weaponizing custody, You're trying to explain that a man using his girlfriend as a babysitter is a great thing. she doesn't deserve it because she might be a child abuser. So can the girlfriend, as there have been cases of girlfriends doing some unalivings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:00 AM
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