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[–][deleted] 100 points101 points102 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It almost sounds like no one is trying to start a family or marry
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Everybody is told they "have time" (true but you still shouldn't waste any of it), having kids is becoming more expensive every day and family courts in the west fuck men over 9 out of 10 times.
[–]Responsible-Bug8192 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The tenth is the woman not fucking the man over. Not the courts. The courts will fuck you over every time they have the opportunity.
[–]Lotus_82 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I certainly don’t.
[–]willgo-waggins 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You need to work on that and get over it BEFORE you go to that level then. You will carry that rotten seed with you into a marriage otherwise and it will sprout someday and bear evil fruit.
[+]myrandomadvice -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
shut the fuck up
[–]DuckTapeHandgrenade 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nice input. Way to be constructive.
[+]myrandomadvice -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
sorry im only trying to reply to the wilgo waggins guy i thought he was trolling. new to reddit and all that
[–]nowlan101 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why though? Cause she’ll cheat? If she hadn’t had a bunch of partners that could very well be an excuse down the line to cheat should she decide to use it. “Sowing wild oats”.
[–]cjep3 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
So it is an issue that depends on the individual viewing it(yourself). The number doesn't matter, how the person treats you and talks with you and grows with you matters. A past number of partners means they know what they are looking for and want, obviously you. But if the number bothers you, it's an issue and you need to look for the type of people that will give you a lower number, or a number of 0. It's whatever makes you comfortable in your life, hence it's a personal issue. Personally, 7 is low to me at almost 30, but, i was free with my sexuality in my youth and experienced a lot.
[–]ICastPunch 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I mean the past of a person can give you insight into who they are.
[–]cjep3 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel you are looking for validation to be unhappy with her number. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, end the relationship because you can't look past her past. It's not fair to her to be in a relationship that makes her feel that her past is shameful.
[–]ICastPunch 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Emmmm... I didn't even say It wold bother ME I just said it is important to know the past of the other person because it can give you insights into who they are. I don't care about gender for this.
BTW, Get the fuck out of here with your assumption bullshit I assume I could have written whathever and you would have still complained. You feel I am looking for validation to be unhappy for her number? Bitch I'm not even looking for a relationship myself single for life fuck off.
[–]Ok-Yogurt-2743 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You mean she’s a self-confident, intelligent and independent woman who focuses on her self and her life? Damn, dude. Grow up or run away. She’s not the one for you because there’s no way in Hell that you’re the one for her. Let her be happy before you try and ruin her life
Emmm never said just the fact of how many people. You cannot now much about a person just by a number.
Actually you can know a lot both about men and women, not just women by it. But I meant in general knowing their past. Sex life is a very important part of the past of most people.
[–]chuckvsthelife 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago* (48 children) | Copy Link
Why? Again you don’t own her and it has 0 affect on you. If she settles down with you it means she chose you.
FWIW my GF is at 29, I’m at 10. She was single and had a couple of ”ho phases” that helped her to grow and be the wonderful person I love. I was married to my first serious girlfriend. It’s all just life circumstances and how things work out.
Even with a lower number I’m rarely jealous of the past. We are pretty open. She could be jealous of the connection I had with my ex wife (it really wasn’t bad we just needed to break up to let each other grow in the directions we wanted to go). I could be jealous of her hookups. But like we both chose each other.
If anything it’s a complement. Like “of the many I’ve been with I choose this one”
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[–]RoddyChooch 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ve seen a lot of people say that they like their partner to have similar views on sex and that body count is one of the determining factors on that sexual view.
There are others of course, but that kind of makes sense to me.
[–]chuckvsthelife 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah that makes sense. At least you are cognizant of it. Means you can work on it!
[–]Xerexes3869 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Don't let the flowery words of captain save a Ho's tell you what to do. Just because something works someone doesn't mean they work for you. You shouldn't ask or tell but if they actively inform you then you should only accept what you are comfortable with.
Eg; there never really a real FWB. one is always more invested than the other. Now imagine if it was the guy or your gal. If it's her she will be always open to his charms with "what ifs" whenever things with you are a little bad. Decide
Similarly if one person has had regular ONS, they are more prone to do it since it's familiar territory. I am not saying they would do it but remember they can if the situation presents without any guilt. You will always be looking over your shoulder. Be very certain who you start your family with. There are no takebacks. You don't comeout unscathed.
Also the more number of partners the more potential reconciliations until and unless they hate ever one of them.
[–]willgo-waggins 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
This is not good advice it is biased.
You sound like you have been burned by someone and that is never a good basis to offer others advice from.
I have had more ONS, casual hookups, vacation flings and short term things than I can conveniently remember.
But when I am emotionally engage to a woman I am with her and her only (unless we have agreed to something else) and I am above all totally and completely loyal without question.
And women even moreso than men get this way when they are locked in.
[–]Xerexes3869 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Not burned at all. You are casually forgetting you are not an AI which is being replicated like terminator all over the world. Just because you are an outlier doesn't make everyone so.
Also relationship have ups and downs. The true nature only appears when it's down. Everything is hunkdory when it's on a high. Past character is always a good indication of future behaviour. It's easier to hop away if you have done so many times. It's harder if you don't even know how. The attachment is strong when it's with as few people as possible. Otherwise they know what to do and how to do it. It's already been done numerous times.
Ofcourse there are exceptions, just like some of the drug peddlers and murderes are reformed when they serve 10yrs and embrace religion and start working as a bagman at a grocery store. Others, well they go do the same shit eventually
[+]willgo-waggins -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Wow I wouldn’t even know where to start with the overload of hangups and false moralisms that seethe through that post.
[–]Xerexes3869 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You don't have to. It's not as if I am browbeating you into doing something. We are entitled to our own opinion
[–]theraymondred 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You talking about false Moralismus? You just guilt tripped Op a bit above and recommended to go to a female therapist because as a guy it is obviously wrong to think that a girl with a umhingt partner count is rotten (hint: she is and she belongs to the streets). Hypocrite.
[–]Leningradsteamer -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao "Moralismus" wtf
[–]willgo-waggins -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Spell check and grammar check are real.
Sorry I cannot take this seriously at all.
[–]Blackiechan2000 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think circumstances matter more. For example I have had 12 partners and that majority of them were when I was very young (in the span of a year or two) and now I’m very selective of who I sleep with, usually only in a relationship. Values can change over time and you can’t assume just because someone did something in the past that they are the same person. You can be with who you want obviously but it’s coming off like you’re saying anyone with a high count can’t bond with people as well because of their sexual history when people sleep with others for a variety of reasons and can change their values overtime.
[–]AssistanceMedical951 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
A lot of POS’s on here are trying to deflower as many chicks as they can. They want to “ruin” as many women for other men as they can. They think that their penises are so powerful that they can change the inherent value of a woman.
They are cowards, pussies who can’t trust their own evaluations of a woman. They are looking for trophies not partners. They need other men to admire the women they want to fuck regularly. Intimacy and bonding is something they have with other men. Not women, they just fuck women.
This woman was in 7 relationships most lasting 1-3 years. And you can’t handle that? Like you’re some prize? Can’t bear the thought that some guy was better in bed than you?
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[–]travisth0tt 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
what is “pure” though. experiences make up the person and if their experiences brought them here and you’re enjoying it then that’s all that matters.
honestly if it’s too low a number i get a bit concerned because i’ve noticed people that don’t have as much experience don’t know themselves and what they want/don’t want as well as those that do which can result in problems in the future
[–]throwawayPzaFm 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's honestly not even that many. I've got exes that had that in a week...
[–]AssistanceMedical951 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m glad that you admit that it’s unreasonable and irrational. I’m glad that you’re working on it with a therapist.
But I’m not glad that you are likely to hurt a real flesh and blood woman over an irrational reverence for a nonsensical complex. ie the purity bullshit.
What is purity anyway? What if she was a virgin but also a murderer or had committed vehicular homicide while DWI? Or had stolen someone’s life savings leading to their suicide? Or bullied some kids mercilessly in high school until they were traumatized? Sold drugs laced with fentanyl? What is it about a consensual STD free penis in her vagina that makes her unpure ?
The goal of life is motion and it sounds like you are punishing her for not having waited for you to be in her life to live. Not taking advantage of the the gift of life that G-d gave us sounds like more of a sin than some good old fashioned fucking.
[–]Scootmcpoot 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sex is not a game. Only losers believe sex is a game with bodies piled high like garbage.
[–]tryhardpro7 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah don’t listen to the ppl on this sub, they’d literally marry “that thot” and say it doesn’t matter it’s in her past, having that conservative mindset on certain things is good, it’s funny how conservatism is seen as something bad, but ever since ppl have become more open minded there’s more divorces, more cheating, more break ups and a lot more sad stuff that happens around the world, don’t be brainwashed into this stupid mindset, don’t accept a woman with a body count, stay conservative, stay masculine , find that conservative country girl and settle down with her raise a family
[–]SpookyKG -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah, yes, toxic misogyny is the answer. Thanks for this enlightening comment.
[–]coffee9table9fitness 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s 100% because of puritanical thoughts that you were pummeled and almost brainwashed with at a young age. Explore other cultures and other belief systems. Monogamy is valued because it is central to a family unit. In today’s world things have changed a lot but I can tell you that out of all of my male friends I have the highest body count, I also am unequivocally the most loyal in my relationships. You should read up about retroactive jealousy it is a possessive thought process.
[–]willgo-waggins 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Counseling. And not from ANYONE that is in any way affiliated with a religious or conservative organization.
Find yourself a good FEMALE therapist to work through that.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So how many people have you had sex with, and why do you believe that has anything to do with a successful relationship?
You are going to miss out on this wonderful sounding woman, and possibly end up alone, due to your archaic and naive attitude. What is important is someone who brings you joy, who has intelligence and personality, who has a healthy interest in intimacy - do you honestly want someone who is so insecure/immature/hung up/dysfunctional that they are still a virgin or incredibly inexperienced at the age of 30?
[–]daysinnroom203 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s good you’re being honest with yourself about it. 7 seems so insignificant to me, but that’s clearly a conversation you have to have with yourself.
[–]Moikepdx -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It sounds like you're making something of nothing here.
A permanent STI is relevant, as are any kids she has. Her history beyond that is only meaningful if it corresponds to a character flaw.
For instance: If she had numerous sexual partners via cheating on boyfriends, that would significant. If she was not cheating? Shouldn't be an issue.
[–]LolaBijou -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then go to therapy for it instead of carrying it over to your partners. It’s outdated and judgmental and hypocritical AF.
[–]Namakemon0 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Tbf she also chose some of those other 29 people until she didn't. That's the reality OP is contending with.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
it’s most likely way higher than that. Regardless, shes had her fun and wild sex with all the cool and exciting guys and now is ready to settle down with a nice reliable good guy like you! Congrats
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I cringe at the thought of someone considering me for settling down for while they had the time of their life getting ran through by partner after partner. It’s gross.
[–]NiceChad69 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
29, almost 30, multiply by 3 that’s 90, so almost 100. 😳
[–]chuckvsthelife 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I find it’s unhelpful to start from a place of distrust. No need to lie, shit we added to both those totals together. Sex is fun, no need to take it so seriously.
[–]willgo-waggins 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
See you “get it”.
My current friend and lover is obviously experienced as am I. But she chose me and has made it clear that I am different and special to her and I feel nothing but being honored and joyful that she feels that way.
Why would I ever feel otherwise? Of all the people she has had to select from she has chosen me. What could be better than that?
[–]chuckvsthelife 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And vice versa, like you’ve sampled and know what you like.
[–]willgo-waggins 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly.
There is also another factor.
How many ling term couples are heard to be bitching about what they have missed? How many out themselves in situations where they cannot do cheat because of this thought process? How many break a household because they feel that they missed out?
I’ll go further. Have you ever read some of the stuff from r/Deadbedrooms? It’s truly sad and far too often comes as a result of inexperienced people who have not the first clue how to spice things up and keep it fresh because they’ve never been exposed to anything beyond basic.
I’ve done the be with the innocent girl who is naive and worships you. It’s fucking ridiculously and painfully boring as soon as the new and shiny wears off (2-5 months at most). I don’t care if she is Helen of Troy and her pussy is made of gold. If she hasn’t learned anything sexually and isn’t open to anything new, you get bored.
Conversely I have learned so very many different styles of stimulation. From simple communication of desire to fancy dick tricks from muscle control. And I have yet to have an unsatisfied lover. Actually sometimes it’s hard to get rid of them!
And that doesn’t come from a book or a class. That comes from having experienced many different women and learning their turn ons for their individual bodies.
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[–]chuckvsthelife -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nope. There are studies showing some odd relationship between number of partners and marital success basically first partner works out better 2 is a lot worse. 3 is worse. Gets slowly better and plateaus. No definitive causation has been found. My theory is jealousy/ curiosity related. You don’t know when you haven’t had more. At 2 or 3 jealousy peaks from there it’s just slightly less attachment to your first but decreasing jealousy issues
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would imagine that at 2 or 3 there is also a lot of leftover burn from the prior failed situations and the person has not yet learned how to sort out those that show those red flags BEFORE the commitment phase.
By the time you have been with 8, 10 or more people, you have sorted out those factors and are better at finding what works for YOU and also better at cutting bait BEFORE things get to locked in.
My current emotional interest is very locked into me and is constantly giving away her deeper feelings by words/body language and behaviors. She will then visibly pull herself ok and say things to indicate she’s not wanting a relationship right now. I am also not ready for that plunge just yet - although I am fully open to that with her. So I simply remind her again that while we each have feelings and that we have a great thing going, we are friends and lovers and don’t need a “label” or a hard commitment right now and that we can just let things go along and see what tome brings. We are both very settled and not in any rush to anything. So no need to worry.
[–]_stmt 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wierd Mia Khalifa noises
[–]SN33D5 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmao ewwwww this nigga settling with the town bike
[–]NeoconDonChickyparm -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Grow up
[–]KingRigved 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Brotha! I'm happy for you. Unfortunately not everyone is the same. Some possess a little something called Retroactive Jealousy. It's an OCD thing.
r/retroactivejealousy
There are different thoughts to this. You chose the ones that suit your line of thinking and helps you sleep at night. Not everyone can do that.
It begins with What if she still thinks of them, to What if I'm the one she settled for?
People have left their fiances to equal scores and some have cheated to equal their scores
Some people feel like they have been dealt a bad hand and want to pass on it for a better option
I know all of this sounds derogatory, just speaking the mindset.
There are only three options to get out of this:
The normal, go to therapy.
Fuck around to get an even higher score so that no girl's score bothers you
Marry a Mormon 18 year old
[–]chuckvsthelife 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep been there dealt with it myself. Self work needed to get around it. Therapy was involved in years of self work but not specifically on the issue.
Core problem for me was that I couldn’t accept that I was enough.
[–]KoolAidMan7980 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So how many partners did she have?
[–]Erbrah -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im sure all that dick helped her grow
[–]PuempelsPurpose 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It should only really matter insofar as it predicts future nondesirable behaviour. I'd be much more concerned about a woman who was inexperienced.
[–]LolaBijou -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She wasn’t yours before you met her. Grow up, move on. There are plenty of real problems you can worry about if you’re that bored.
[–]Lotus_82 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do you care, if the person has no STDs? Because other than feeling insecure about your own performance because you think you lack experience compared to that person, I don’t see why someone would care.
[–]systemadvisory -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It seems just as important as how many chicken nuggets she has eaten in her lifetime
[–]rucafromtheeastside 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why would it become more important then?
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[–]rucafromtheeastside 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
May I ask what your number is?
[–]GabberFlasm 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Numbers don’t matter to me, but mine are high too. In my experience with girls with higher numbers, the sex is better, the chick is usually cooler and a lot less insecure about silly stuff, usually more open minded etc. I’m not knocking anyone with low numbers at all, but people that have been around are still people, and they’re usually pretty damn cool too.
If knowing bothers you then don’t ask, but either way best of luck in finding your person.
[–]that_typeofway 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She said she only fucked like four-five nuccas
So you know you gotta multiply by three
Didn’t you learn anything in college?
[–]DuckTapeHandgrenade 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All that matters is fidelity and trust.
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[–]abandonliberty 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Breaking in virgins isn't any better.
[–]Hillman314 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How can “your number” have a singular meaning?
So , how would you compare a person who might have a high number of short time partners (intimate sex) with a person who had same amount of one night stands (probably bad sex)? I’m not judging, I’m just saying the numbers aren’t equivalent.
[–]magnateur 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think the question and grouping it together like that kinda makes sense in that people who have few sexual partners tend to value sex in a relationship setting and people who have a lot of sexual partners tend to have had either a lot of really short relationships one right after the other (which to me is a kind of a red flag) or value casual sex too and not just in an emotional setting. The numbers somewhat point you in a direction, but dont say a whole lot without context. For me at least a high number might be a warning sign in both contexts, that person being a serial relationshipist , or have completely different views when it comes to sex than me, which would mean possibly large compatibility issues.
[–]LolaBijou 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why there’s no point in even asking this question of your partners.
[–]that_typeofway -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
7 x 3 = 21
Still not bad, but 21 is closer to her actual number
[–]insatiablecuriosity9 136 points137 points138 points 4 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link
Dude you’ll find uber woke people on here telling you not to care about it. Don’t listen to them. You’re not bad or wrong if it bothers you. And if it does bother you, make a decision accordingly. You cant change the number no matter what, so just live with it or find someone else.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. I don't care but there is nothing wrong with the people that do. Date the type of people you like and mind your own business.
[–]willgo-waggins 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You are not wrong but I can tell you that carrying that seed of jealously will forever negatively affect any relationship he enters even if the person had only one prior partner.
I had it in myself when I was younger and it took me a ling time and a lot of self examination and talking out with counselors and friends to realize it was incredibly toxic.
[–]willgo-waggins 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He has admitted that he has had nearly three times the number of partners that she has. He has OCD with an emphasis on the Obsessive thinking (I get this because I have worked through the same in life) and that he is churning this over in his own brain. He admits that this is HIS issue not hers. And he admits that he would “like to go back and change his past and be with less people” which is a huge giveaway to his true emotion about the entire situation.
There is absolutely a core of jealousy - irrelevant as to why or how it formed unless a therapist sees that as a vehicle to bring it out and quash it.
This relationship will fail if he doesn’t get through this stuff. He will carry it and hold it over her head (not necessarily outwardly but internalizing can be even worse) for all their time together.
[–]Xerexes3869 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Like bro!! Why do you keep harping about the same thing. We are glad you are happy with a body count of 30. Maybe she's a nice girl but some people aren't. Some aren't happy with "their" gf having casual sex since they get paranoid about it and lose peace of mind. Some aren't comfortable with dating past cheaters. Now you might also have a theory about "how cheating makes a girl grow" so she won't cheat again but that doesn't give some peace of mind.
The fact is "some" people don't want to lose their sleep over their gf and them running into ex flings and ex bfs. They don't want to be paranoid and ask every time their gf hangs out with a guy "if she slept with him".
Another concern is you can date such a person but what if they want to get married. What values will they teach your children?
Well for one thing I didn’t say anything about cheating being at all acceptable. And to define cheating it would be a relationship where you have agreed to commit inly to each other and not be open or in the lifestyle.
Fir me at this moment in time, I am in a situation where neither of us wants a monogamous commitment and that may or may not ever change. I am perfectly content to let that be the case until the point where both of us are ready for something different.
In the meantime, neither owns the other and trying go to impose that sort of restriction would certainly drive us apart rather than together.
We both understand the others value as a person and to each other. And over some time here that will show that there isn’t a bigger better deal out there and that we aren’t going to trap or abuse (we have both had to deal with that in the past as well) one another and it is safe.
[–]ArmaniDiamonds 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Bunch of literal cucks trying to basically tell him that he's the asshole for even asking. Pathetic. Especially during this holy month of no nut November
[–]LGTMe 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, don’t listen to those promiscuous hoes.
[–]HandsomeHerb 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
preach
why act one way because someone else tells you to
[–]breakboyzz 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
100% agree.
I do agree that the more guys she's been with, the more promiscuous she generally is and will be harder to lock down (if that's your thing).
But it also DEPENDS. You just have to make your own decision. I personally don't want to get serious with someone who thinks and acts like they are serious until we get married, only for her to be like "I'm bored because I know what else is out there" and take half my stuff.
[–]ChattyBot7 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think it's really not about the numbers in your case at least. Let's not put a label on this thing.
If I were in your place and I have a much less body count than she does, I'd be a bit anxious too but try to not revolve around that till your head spins.
I'd rather bring this up with her and ask her opinion on this whole body count thing and how she views and values the relationship you guys have. Basically making a judgment of who you're with, what she wants etc etc. Since you say she's mature, she should be more than willing to have this conversation with you. Maybe after her reply, you can draw your conclusions about your relationship with this woman rather than rejecting her because of her body count. Maybe she did have all those ONS and FWBs with those men when she really didn't want to date and be in a romantic relationship with anyone else. Maybe at that point in life, all she wanted was something physical. So talk to her is what I'd say.
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[–]ChattyBot7 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Those flings you usually have in your teens don't even count as real relationships for the most part. It's just teens trying to explore their sexuality at the most while being stuck to a very juvenile concept of love. The other relationships as you get older...you'll maybe realise that they're not right for you but in the heat of the moment you've had a couple of sexual encounters. So yeah, I guess the full story should put your mind at ease.
Again, I don't think there's a count here and that count shouldn't be a judge of character. Instead you can try to empathize with the person as to why they had the sexual encounters they did and then form judgements if this relationship is right for you along the lines of "body count" though there'll be a hundred other things to consider.
[–]marcifyed 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would be more concerned about marrying someone who doesn’t enjoy sex much.
[–]MAGUS_CRAWDADUS 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’m 21 and I learned real quick don’t ask questions you don’t really want the answer to. What’s the past is the past.
[–]MAGUS_CRAWDADUS 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well I don’t want to generalize, I just know a few people with crazy numbers and a few people with low numbers, and some with in between. It really depends I just don’t like taking the chance by asking.
[–]GuaranteeOwn5108 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m a huge whore and to me or doesn’t matter the number of partners she’s had…. I never care to ask and I believe women lie about their number anyway because men from their past weren’t able to handle it.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A whore is someone who gets laid for it. You are probably a man slut.
[–]willgo-waggins 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link
I don’t ask and I don’t really care to know. I also never offer because the truth would make most react negatively while that number does not at all describe who I am as a person nor does it have anything to do with who I am or what is happening between me and that person.
Keep something in mind here (I’m going with an assumption that you are in the US since you said “college” and not “Uni”).
Our false puritanical moralism in the US dictates a total double standard for men and women. And this has not completely changed at all despite better and more open/educated attitudes today especially amongst younger people.
Women - even those being “honest” - are rarely truthful about their actual number of partners. They also will almost NEVER admit to ONS/casuals/rando hookups to a guy and especially a guy they are really interested/long term with. It’s that shaming/slut mentality that our society assigns that they fear moreso than “lying” so they just don’t mention. Any of those extra encounters.
There is also a lot of - no better word - bullshit tied in with this. High number count means that her pussy is loose, she’s a cheater, she’s too easy, she’s crazy. And on and on. All bullshit and nothing to do with reality.
I have also found that the women I have been with that insist on telling me their “number” usually seem to be doing so for an ulterior motive. What that is can be you name it. But it has never worked out to be anything that is beneficial to the relationship/interaction or me personally.
Ultimately your “need to know” stems from male jealously/possessiveness and is not something you should be bringing to the relationship table anyway as it is unhealthy and not fair to your partner to act that way. She’s not a possession, she is a partner. Treat her that way and you will be rewarded far more than otherwise.
As an example here I’ll use my current situation.
I have met a woman and we have feelings for each other but we are not ready for a “relationship” commitment beyond friends and lovers. And that includes that we may date or get together with others right now (although that’s not happening currently) and the fact that we both have an interest in bringing in another girl and possibly other couples into our sex life. Neither of us is anything close to virginal (lmao) and any person who has good sexual skills by nature will have to have had a fair amount of experience developing those skills. But we aren’t asking nor do we care. What matters most? When we are together, the sex is transcendent. She fits me like a glove and has been very clear that I am a perfect fit/partner/lover and that she has never enjoyed it this much before. And that’s all the really matters. We are into each other and enjoying our time together as us. The past is irrelevant because it’s done and gone and you cannot bring it back nor change it.
Enjoy her. Be with her. Be there for her. And don’t judge or let that ugly emotion of jealously ruin what could otherwise be a beautiful thing. You say she has been your friend for many years. Obviously you both feel there is a lot more than friendship there and you know who each other is. So focus on that and not a meaningless past that is complete and gone into the history books.
[–]Rock_Granite 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
and the fact that we both have an interest in bringing Finn another girl and possibly other couples into our sex life.
You don't want or expect monogamy. So finding out about others partner count is irrelevant. It is highly relevant if you are marrying someone with the expectation of sexual exclusivity. It's not the only thing that matters in a person's past. But it does say a lot about their views on openness to sexual variety and the expectation of novelty. These are important dimensions of compatibility that you'd be foolish to ignore. There's no judgement here. People are all free to do what they want and be who they are. Yet Ignoring those preferences is to willfully ignore important indicators of personality.
People with low notch counts would likely be better matched with other low notch counts. And similarly high counts with high counts. There is no shame in any of this. I don't care if you have had 1000 partners. I really don't care. But if I am looking to get married and I have had 1000 partners, I can tell you that getting hitched to someone who has 0 is probably not a good idea. Sure it might work, but the odds are against it. We simply have different lifestyles and integrating them will be a challenge.
[–]willgo-waggins 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
This is very accurate.
I especially like the last part about appropriate count match. You are likely at the base solution to the issue there. It eliminates any sense of imbalance in the relationship.
As far as me, as I’ve said, I’m a swinger my whole adult life. So I am open to a serious relationship or marriage that includes sharing with other who are of like mind/mentality and are mature enough and secure enough to be ok with that.
I feel from my experience that it is far healthier to be with someone that you live and respect but that you are both sexual people who enjoy physical variety in an honest and open manner than to be unhappy in a forced monogamous situation - which btw is NOT the natural situation for our species it has to do with religion and property rights - and eventually bReal down that love and bail because you are bored or unhappy or just plain tired of that person because there is no comparison.
Myself when I have had a partner in the lifestyle and every solid couple I know would never give up their spouse/SO because that is the beet and the person they love and are connected to emotionally. The act is always best with that person but the variety is fun and it also reinforces your appreciation of each other if all is well and healthy.
[–]Rock_Granite 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
which btw is NOT the natural situation for our species it has to do with religion and property rights - and eventually bReal down that love and bail because you are bored or unhappy or just plain tired of that person because there is no comparison.
I agree, monogamy isn't right for many people. For variety seekers like you, the swinging lifestyle makes a lot of sense.
I've been married for 33 years. It doesn't HAVE to be drudgery. We like to stay in shape. We lift weights together, play sports together and still fuck like bunnies. We put some effort into being our best selves for each other. Just like we would if we were single and on the market.
And that is the RIGHT way to be if that is your choice!
My parents are coming up in their 55th anniversary next year. They are and have always been happy and perfectly matched.
The person in my life right now is someone who if she were to come to me and say “I know we talked about other people but I really just want to be with you and nobody else and Vice versa” I would have zero problems with doing that for the rest of my life.
But here’s the rub. I’m old enough to know EXACTLY what I want in a partner and I found a near perfect match. So I don’t have the OP’s concerns or hesitations of a 29 yo. I have been married. I’ve had my kids (she doesn’t want any) and I have my life and career and goals in-line and working. So I’m open to the right thing when it comes along. With no hesitations if the parameters are met.
He has questions and some are involving her (not the number) and those absolutely must be addressed and cleared BEFORE that commitment is made.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Idk how mature or experience do I need to get to your level. I am sure the people you have been with also learned and grew with lot more than I can assume now. It’s what patriarchy doesn’t to you, even to guys, cause you will see women struggling with their sexual health and religious obligations just as guys struggle to expect this simple fact sex is nothing more than sex. I myself am struggling a lot more than I cut here even tho Ik how monogamy and all these private property things came from. I mean not everyone is privileged to be born in a liberal country or in a liberal family or culture. How did you become sex positive what are things you think I should start practicing?
[–]willgo-waggins 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I actually cannot give you some magic spell or super secret.
Being self aware and confident and understanding that your basic inherent jealousy revolves around your instinctive need to breed and continue your line ahead of other men is a start. Getting involved with women who are friends and fuck buddied and understanding that you don’t own each other and have a right to explore and enjoy other people and that nay include moving on. And even coming back later.
You don’t want to jump straight into the lifestyle without first being ready to handle that stuff. And even then I would say look for couples that want a male extra so that you can gain an understanding and a good reputation.
The fact that you get that monogamy - while a great thing to sell rom come - is not the natural state of our species is a good start. So many people are tied up with make believe that they forget the actual science that we are apes at base and still not evolved away from a lot of those basic instinctual behaviors. And really if we do, we might find that we stagnate because that is what drives us to dominate our environment.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Not to sound tryna hitting up but your intellectuality is such a turn on! People are struggling with these especially those who were raised in a conservative culture even tho they don’t have the balls to admit it. How long did it take for you to completely understand this?
[–]willgo-waggins 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Oh my basics started with my upbringing. I was raised in a very open and liberal household with progressive ideologies and growing up Jewish had a very open minded basis there as well with an emphasis to study and learning and scientific basis for assessment of everything.
I am also fortunate enough to be the product of a Mensa caliber mother and highly intelligent father so having a high intellect as a baseline is a great starting point.
Then over a decade of college and continuing education in every form. I’m a voracious reader and a big talker and love debate and am always open to and looking for new ideas.
The down side is that one of the reasons I have rarely settled for too long with one woman? I get bored easily with someone who is not my intellectual match and many who are are also inherently mentally or emotionally unstable. For whatever sad reason women of high intellect (my own mother and her sisters and mother are examples) seem to run that way at a higher rate than men.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Didn’t get your last paragraph where you stated something like you don’t find intellectual women because…? and cheers we have lots in common. Might really end up be you someday!
[–]willgo-waggins 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sorry just that I don’t have patience to be with non intellectual women any more.
I had a FWB (much younger) like that recently. Tall blond knockout and loved to fuck.
Dumb as a post. It lasted about a month and a half and I literally had to get high to have her over to duck her and then would send her straight home after.
Cut her loose.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your explanation skill lmao i m dying reading last line
[–]tryhardpro7 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Cuck mentality fr lol
[–]willgo-waggins -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah you’re an idiot.
I’m as far from a cuck as possible and actually completely dom.
I love little pissants who think they can throw popular words around without having a single ticking clue as to what they mean.
Go back to moms basement yelling for nachos fat boy.
[–]willgo-waggins -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well I’d have to be married but that’s a block.
[–]HandsomeHerb 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
basically just let everybody be sluts with no morals
males and females
[–]Mrstrawberry209 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't care. I do care if she still has close relationships with her exes.
[–]Xerexes3869 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. That is a major red flag of she still wants to have dinners with casual partners from the past
[–]dobbs1997 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
everybody’s definition of a high body count is different, for some it’s 5, for others it’s over 20, you gotta figure that out for yourself but generally as long as the person you’re dating is treating you right then you shouldn’t worry too much about it.
[–]hulk_hogans_nutsweat 55 points56 points57 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I’m not expecting a virgin but I also don’t want a woman who’s been fucked by the entire city. What would be a dealbreaker is if we’re heading into committed relationship territory and she lied about it. I don’t want a woman to tell me that she’s only slept with six guys and then some time later I find out that she’s slept with 100. If she’s willing to lie to me about that what else would she lie about?
I think that you should be honest with the person if you’re getting into a relationship and then they can decide if they want to continue with things. If it’s just a ONS or casual thing then it probably wouldn’t matter.
[–]Napalm_in_the_mornin 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
See this is tough because if they ask you in the early phases of a relationship that is going very well… you don’t want to risk them freaking out (like OP) and having in sink your relationship.
Admittedly, I fudged my number a ton when I thought I had found “the one” because her number was 1 and mine was closer to 30. I knew she’s freak so I dropped it below 10… she never asked again but I wonder if that’s something I would have had to take to the grave
[–]hulk_hogans_nutsweat 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s really more about being honest. If you’re getting to the relationship stage and these questions get asked then you owe the other person honesty so they can make their own decision. It’s way better to get this out in the beginning than have them find out later that you lied.
[–]willgo-waggins -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you want that kind of honesty you should seriously take a look at just how judgmental that post sounds and maybe look at your own attitude.
[–]hulk_hogans_nutsweat 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not being judgmental. I have standards and if someone doesn’t meet them then it’s my right to move on with my life. If a woman wants a guy who’s 6’5” and built like the rock, then that’s on her.
[+]DirtyDerpina -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women usually lie about their body count because of judgemental men like you or OP, but okay, sure, you do you.
Yeah fuck having standards. Just accept whatever’s thrown at me. Let us know the next time you date someone who doesn’t meet your requirements.
[–]Bellatesfom1345 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What’s wrong if a man wants to have standards? Of a man does not want a women with a high body count that’s ok. I think morbidity of men that are not chucks would agree with the sentiment.
[–]_stmt -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Screams in Mia Khalifa
[–]Pilk70 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I believe that you are being unrealistic about it and care way too much about the topic. I (male 50) stopped caring in my late teens about someone's sexual past.
Do you feel this way because she has had more partners than you?
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[–]willgo-waggins 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is good! Self actualization goes a long way to working through things.
So here’s a question for you.
If I told you that seven is really nothing, would that alone make you feel better because I am a 51 m and very experienced and I can assure you that is actually probably just enough to make her not feel that she has missed something?
[–]willgo-waggins 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ok so yeah I’m just going to say (not being rude) deal with the mommy issue. That’s your key core problem right there and your Obsessive thinking is just amping it up into crazy time.
Believe me I had my mom issues too including that basis if false moralisms. Turns out many years later when unmade a smart ass remark to my dad he laughed and said that was bullshit and he knew for a fact that she only said that because she was parroting what she was told.
I don’t want to try to judge or tell you what to do with your relationship or life. That’s for you and her to figure out.
What I will say as my opinion is that I think that you might find yourself very disappointed in a few years. This girl sounds like she either tends toward asexuality, or has had something happen in the past (trauma, abuse) that has turned her off to sex.
So the first thing is to narrow down what is going on.
Is sex painful or difficult for her? This could be due to a physical issue. It could also stem from a traumatic or undesired experience in the past that doesn’t let her relax and get aroused sufficiently.
Did she have something happen? Was there abuse in the home growing up? Was her first time a forced or coerced situation? Has she been raped or even assaulted other than PIV rape? All of these can be contributing factors.
You are right that - especially for women - it is not normal to not be in a desired and close relationship and not want to be sexually connected with your partner.
I feel like you think she is “the one” and that because you have known her for a long time that you had made that decision already a while ago.
But there’s stuff here man for both of you that will lead to an unhappy ending. You aren’t going to be satisfied (after normal experiences) with a partner that you adore but will only reluctantly sleep with you less than once a month. And having kids will only make that an anniversary event because whatever is holding her back now? Having a baby will exponentially make it worse.
Get some professional help for both of you is the best advice I can give if you want to see if you can make it work.
And of course the option is coming to the realization that maybe you just aren’t the right fit.
Oh and when you go to therapy? Get rid of that Madonna complex. Women are just people like us. You can always be a gentleman and treat them well but placing in a pedestal just skews your view and messes up your mind.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great sound advice.
7 is very low, less than one per year and within a relationship too. Most women I know (and they are nice, well educated, respectable, and contribute a good deal to the community) become sexually active around 16 and have between 20-50 intimate partners in a decade.
You would be far better off if you can do the therapy to drop this irrational judgment and shaming, a woman who loves sex is one worth marrying, my husband enjoys my loyalty and my extensive experience because he is not insecure or silly.
[–]aterrifyingfish 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What does a lot mean? Why does it matter? How does it directly affect your life?
I don't understand why this is so important to you. Do you care about how many times she's taken a dump? Do you care about how many times she's flown on an airplane? Do you care about how many times she's been drunk in her life?
None of that is really relevant to your life, it's just an inconsequential number about an arbitrary thing that you decided to make a big deal about in your head. This is entirely a you issue, not a her issue.
[–]aterrifyingfish 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, I think that you're at least aware that it's not a rational belief. I would try to remember that when you're feeling that way, remind yourself that the belief really isn't rational, it has to do with some sort of emotional tie you have. After a while, hopefully that pattern is broken.
[–]dresdonbogart 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
People keep on talking about the mentality or whatever but 7 partners for being 29 is not a lot AT ALL. Like that’s very low, just ask your other male and female friends. She’s almost a prude with those numbers
[–]Salomonik 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Always x3 that number. I would say anything above 10 its not a long term material.
[–]n0repinephrine 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good tip!
[–]jbo99 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t want to know
[–]Edibl3Dreams 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't matter, unless it lead to an STD or is indicative of a bigger problem like cheating, but 7 definitely isn't. If it was half that I'd be more worried about her wanting to explore other options she hasn't before.
[–]bruce_maximo 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The more partners…the less the pair bond. Women aren’t men. If it didn’t affect them, they wouldn’t need to hide their past lol. Don’t be a fool, you run background checks on employees and do a apprisasl before you buy a house. just know the less the better. Nothing ever good comes from lots of lots baggage lol
[–]superchalupa 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let's show mathematically how many partners is "too many".
Let "N" be the number of past partners that they had before they met me. I would be "N+1", let's call that number "M".
We can mathematically represent the number that would be "too many" with the expression "M+1".
Caveats and limitations: any situation where they exceed M in a non-consentual manner is not covered. Any situation where they revisit N would not be covered.
[–]Front_Objective9507 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Your girl sounds amazing and 7 bodies is nothing, but honestly numbers do matter otherwise people wouldnt lie about them and it goes to show how the person handles themselves, almost every woman has a ho phase at some point that's not a problem, I just feel it's about self control. if you was with a girl that screwed lets say 50 guys by the time she was 25 or even 30 would you really feel special about being with that person knowing half of your community has had access to her sacred parts, I see it as more of a status thing, no one wants the girl by their side who everyone else considers easy and had their way with already
[–]Front_Objective9507 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel the same way as you now, not necessarily about the body count but just the way women around my age tend to handle themselves nowadays, it's like the morality has gone way down over the years. Now to me it seems like they just want to screw as many people as they can before they decide to want to settle down (usually closer to 30). I'm 27 and had multiple women tell me they could see themselves marrying me but when I tried to initiate something past the usual sex they back off cause they were too busy living their "best life" lol, which there isn't anything wrong with it's their choice but when I tell them that I wont be here when they get back they get FURIOUS at me like I did something wrong by not waiting for them
[–]West-Seaworthiness98 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't because I don't think about marriage unless she proves herself that she's marriage material.
She could have sex with 100 men and I won't care because I'm just trying to be #101 when I meet her.
[–]Cheshire057 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
37 dicks?!
[–]thebigfishstick17 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t care about how many people she’s slept with. More who’s she’s slept with. If she’s slept with one of by friends before than it’s most likely a no go in terms of dating.
[–]Zicronblade0 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've had mostly female friends my whole life and I can tell you by like 22 they were all in the several dozens so... (the conventionally attractive ones anyway. also the bi/gay ones were always WAY higher than the straights.) I think it really comes down to if they have dealt with their own shit or not. Like yes, extreme promiscuity tends to come from unresolved issues/ mental illneses but also we all like to make whoopie. I can't be a hypocrite either because hanging in those groups has allowed me to be a ho too. This is just my experience however so.
[–]Max_Zero323 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I swear on both of my children’s lives I’ve only ever slept with 7 people, I’m 30, and I have sex at least once a day.
I’ve been with my SO now for ten years.
So I guess I’d say it’s totally plausible if she’s had several LT boyfriends
If it bothers you should brung people to have sex with her so it'll increasse that number
[–]KrAzyDrummer 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As long as it's more than 0, I really don't care.
The better question is how good are we together in bed? If the sex is great, then who cares about the rest.
[–]adambombchannel 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's something that my ego worries about - but logically, I hope it's something I won't ruminate on in the future.
I think it would be best to be able to completely disregard it if all other factors like emotional and sexual compatibility were in line. I think you'll miss good opportunities dwelling on it like this.
I am 21 and I have never met a woman whose bodycount was higher than half of mine and I didn't consider that as too much. If her body count is 1000, guess what? I don't care. As long as you don't lie about any STD's or sum and get tested regurlarly I won't judge you. To me that would be like judging someone for masturbating, it is just sex. They're just getting off and it is none of my business. I stay away from women who have been in a lot of relationships though, sex is one thing but calling a new guy the "lOvE oF yoUr LifE" every three months? That's a red flag for me. Also women who fuck a lot of guys for status and to feel "accepted" by them even though they don't find them attractive are a big turn off, that's pathetic and tells me she is hella insecure
[–]erembrant 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think this gets too much attention. I have been with my wife for 14 years and I have no idea what "her number" is. Because I simply don't care.
Don't as don't tell policy. But if she tell you it's 24, I bet you'll have atleast a couple of sleep less nights
[–]erembrant 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If it was before we got married then nope, Ill sleep just fine. But if she told me it was 24 in the past 14 years then we are about to have a problem.
[–]DazzlingReference652 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No I don’t care, it’s in the past and I cannot judge anyone for having a past. 🙂 And I’m not sure what number is too high, lol.
[–]Successful_Man_1982 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know I personally feel that no number is too high or low especially if you two have an exclusive relationship now or otherwise have an agreed upon open relationship. "That number bothered me". What are you a twelve year old who's crushes first kiss with someone other than yourself. Grow up. She didn't even know you in her past her number of partners past or present is her own personal business. Either accept her for who she is as a human being and just enjoy and appreciate the time you get to spend with her or don't but geez what right does anyone have to judge anyone else's past besides God?
[–]derekislegend 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
“Don’t ask questions you don’t want answers to”
If someone I’m dating asks me how many partners I’ve had I never tell them. First, since I don’t have any STDs its irrelevant information. Second, yes you’re overreacting to the number 7…she’s almost 30 years old and has had sex with people she was dating give her a break. Finally, you should probably take a look inward to see why her sexual history bothers you because the issue seems to be with you not her.
[–]chatpal91 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Typical shaming language :/
A womans sexual history is relevant and is not just a reflection of a mans insecurities.
If I found out my womans been with 300 dudes, I couldn't give a single fuck about STDs.. and if you don't understand why someone would have a problem with their partner having a bodycount of 300, I...I don't know what to tell you.
[–]derekislegend 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
His woman had SEVEN men…not 300…obviously 300 would be the biggest red flag the world has ever seen…if he was upset over 300 then yeah he would have a reason to be concerned…but he’s upset over SEVEN. That screams insecurity.
[–]chatpal91 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And i absolutely agree with you that 7 isn't a huge deal at that age..
I think the interesting part of the discussion would come down to what range people think is ok.
I'd love for someone to poll that kind of information... asking people to give their opinion on someones body count from too little, fine, acceptable but pushing it, and too much.. I'd be curious what people said. Of course you'd have parameters like age, gender of person being discussed, and gender of individual giving their opinion.
Would be very interesting
[–]Blaphrodite 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You’re being unrealistic. Think of your expectations as a man and how you project them on to women. She withholds sex, you call her a bitch and bolt after the first date. She has sex before the third date you start thinking she is a whore and counting bodies.
If sex is truly meaningless to most guys, who just want to get off with any available or hot woman at any costs, why should you want a chaste woman? Even if these were all relationships, they didn’t work out. Would you prefer she emotionally damaged herself by recycling sex with the exes? Or that she is a prude who just happens to be a Ho for you? Please dudes, get a grip. Seriously. Stop asking about the body count. I’ve known men who resented that fact their partner had ANY sex before them. Despite these guys being community dick and said partner had only 1 boyfriend before.
No number but zero will make you happy. However given your own sexual expectations and experiences, you should not expect that number to be zero.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I had a very interesting conversation with a guy about wanting a lot of sex but not wanting to date sexual women. When he was younger he thought that he alone could turn a non-sexual woman into a nympho (his word). Like his personality and his love and his affection would be exactly what was needed to make her switch from being chaste (also his word) to being a total horn dog. Then he realized that was the stupidest thing ever. It took time and many failures. His solution was not a great one IMO - just opt out completely. But I think this may be what a lot of guys, especially younger, think.
I think this is why there are SO MANY sexually incompatible relationships. Some guys have an idea of the type of woman they want to bang and the type of woman they want to bring home to the family and they're so very different. But they're going in with eyes WIDE OPEN knowing their woman isn't very sexual and then still complain. It boggles my mind. You want to fuck a lot? Find a woman who also likes to fuck a lot. Simple. Women do this too of course, but the number of women IRL I hear complaining about this type of thing is nothing compared to the amount of guys.
This was in response to the prude but ho for you statement (which was great by the way).
[–]DirtyDerpina 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ugh exactly. What I've slowly realized over the years is that men want a woman with experience and skills, who gives the best BJs in the world. But they absolutely do not want to hear how many dicks she had to go throught to master that skill lol
Basically the majority of men (from my personal experience) want an experienced virgin, which is of course not gonna happen. They don't want to seriously date that one hot af chick who's crazy in bed, so they end up marrying the nice, quiet, shy girl who will make a great wifey and then they spend the rest of their lives complaining about their sex life (or lack thereof).
[–]Blaphrodite 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think guys realize how insane they really sound when they voice all the nonsense in their heads.
[–]KingRigved 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I want to beat the shit out of guys who are like, "I'm a virgin, but I want to experience girls a bit then marry a virgin, because girls who aren't virgins are whores"
My friend's words. Well he stopped being my friend after that.
If virgin dudes want virgin girls, he's entitled to that opinion and option.
If you're not chaste, please have similar expectations from the partner you would choose.
Don't lie ffs. It only pisses people off. Lying has never been a good foundation for a relationship. And I see that girls are much more ruthless in USA, so I understand all the cheating and lying about numbers. But do you really think that's healthy? As if it would never come up? In some way or form?
This brings up old hurts, damnit
[–]RProgrammerMan 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think in an ideal world both men and women would wait. It’s long term thinking versus short term thinking. To be successful in life it’s necessary to delay gratification. That being said there are lots of other aspects of a relationship that are probably more important. Like whether you enjoy each other’s company. Waiting means it’s more likely you’ll find a relationship based on long-term compatibility as opposed to physical attraction.
[–]mariowilldoit 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I only care about a clean bill of health.
[–]dark_dagger99 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Doesn’t matter, I only care about the present
[–]angyal168 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The number shouldn't bother you. I remember up until my early 20s I tended to care. Then I realized I was missing out on so much due to that hyperfocus. Be present in the present and hopeful for the future. Worrying about the past is a major waste of your time. Plus this means she may have some experience, dont think about where it may have come from, just enjoy it. Novelty of teaching someone wares thin quickly.
I go for 10 minimum. Over 50 is where I would raise an eye brow. I never ask and never answer.
[–]Impossible-Debate832 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Sexual past and number of partners simply and definitely MATTERS - it is not point of perspective or opinion, but scientific fact. Sleeping around is leaving permanent consequence to your mental health, your perspective regarding sex, relationships, potential partners and so much more...
People saying things like "iT dOeSNt maTTeR At AlL" are basically coping, and no amount of downvotes won't change that fact.
[–]Finessence 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eh. Scientific fact is a bit much. Not sleeping around can have a permanent consequence to your mental health if you start to believe sex is evil, and your perspective regarding sex can change without sleeping around.
[–]willgo-waggins 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
This could not be further from the truth.
This kind of thinking is what perpetuates false moralisms and double standards and is truly unhealthy.
[–]Impossible-Debate832 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Utter, utter nonsense. As I said - it is not matter of "thinking", perspective or opinion - but of scientific knowledge. Sleeping around has definite and very often permanent consequences on individuals mental health, views and perspective of potential partners, social relations, relationships, marriage and so much more - ESPECIALLY in younger age. It has nothing to do with "false moralism", "double standards" and any other relativisation garbage. Biology, sociology and psychology don't speak that kind of "language".
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Well I’m 51 years old and have a perfectly healthy attitude towards relationships and commitment and actually am letting a current situation develop on its own with hopes that it becomes long term and even permanent.
I’ve slept with more women than I will say here and it has zero affect on me or my ability to connect and be completely satisfied and loyal with the right person.
You are judging people en masse in a moralistic manner, not a scientific one and don’t pretend otherwise.
The facts have already been posted elsewhere in the thread that there is no increase after the third or so partner, actually a decrease in issue that then levels off to a norm.
People who “sleep around” (really shitty term btw) do not garner mental health issues because if that behavior. Mental health issues can certainly LEAD to that and other addictive/self harm behaviors and that is an absolute fact. But you are twisting it backward to fit your perception of things.
I’ve been a swinger on and off most of my adult life. It is about the healthiest sexual community that exists with the least amount of issues. Not none. That’s is an impossibility in any human group. But quite minimal compared to vanilla sexual society.
[–]Impossible-Debate832 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
LOLZ. 😂 Sorry, I simply can't discuss well proven scientific facts, let alone moral and ethical issues, with heavily deluded, semi-literate individuals who are so deeply trapped in depraved and utterly degenerate societal byproduct groups (swingers) that their delusion levels seems almost comical (swingers = healthiest community). 😂 😂 😂 But hey, one thing I must confess to you - it really made me laught like NEVER before when you stated that your degenerate lifestyle had "zero effect" on your mental health and that your towards relationship and commitment are "normal". 😂 😂 😂 Keep believing...and coping, buddy. 👍😂😂
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You should never make the mistake as a pseudo intellectual if trying to use big words to blow your own horn.
You come off as a complete ass and an arrogant fool.
Have a nice day masturbating to yourself.
[–]Impossible-Debate832 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hmm, nice to hear you acknowledging major coping mechanism in form of abusing sexual acts when dealing with issues - just as I stated before... Good luck dealing with your delusions, you will definitely need it. 😇
[–]theshouldershrugger 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/iamverysmart
It doesn't matter as much as your comment makes people think it does.
Stop being so loaded.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Wouldn’t care unless I was planning to marry the woman
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[–]HandsomeHerb 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
can i ask you something
why are you asking others how you should feel?
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[–]HandsomeHerb 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
why does it matter to you tho man? why does it matter? help me understand why it matters to you and ill help you make the right decision
why are you asking this question? why does the bodycount matter to YOU!! INPHASIS ON THE YOUUUUUUUU
[–]HandsomeHerb 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
so here is my question
is sex special to you? or can you have sex with someone and not feel attached
im not asking how you used to feel im asking how you feel RIGHT NOW in this moment
EDIT: Do YOU care if your parTner has a high body count and WHY
[–]HandsomeHerb 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
bro from reading your replies just date the lady
at this point you dont need advice you need therapy and you need not to throw away a good relationship over something like this
7 bodies is low as fuck so that question is answered for you
now go be with your girl and get off reddit
[–]Alextryingforgrate 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dont ask questions you dont want to know the answer to. If it makes you uncomfortable to know you really shouldnt ask.
[–]dobbs1997 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
don’t let the number make you feel insecure, that was the past & like i said in another comment, as long as she’s a person who brings you value then don’t trip about it…either way you’ll never truly know a woman’s sexual past, some people don’t tell the full truth about it and that’s just what it is, don’t worry..the past is the past, focus on the Now & how she treats you and how you two connect, don’t be one of those dudes who let’s a woman’s sexual past ruin the situation you have with her now.
[–]Voltz_got_a_potato 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have read a couple of your responses OP and when you said that she's 'demisexual' it made it more easier to give my take on this issue that you are having. I come from Asia and was also bought up in a conservative household where any really intimate kissing scenes on T.V (during my younger years) would just be changed to a different channel by either of my parents. I have thought a lot about casual dating and just couldn't wrap my head around it because I have accepted the culture that is completely opposite to this. I believe I'm a demisexual too and adding to it that I haven't been in a relationship before (20M) for my personal reasons. I do have OCD relating to my future S/O being in casual dating since that would be a deal-breaker for me. I have gotten over it mostly by just accepting who I am and how that preference of no casual dating comes into play.
I suspect what you are going through is retroactive jealousy as well. You two have a long friendship, know each other a lot, it makes this relationship really more valuable also because you two genuinely wanted to date each other and weren't just chasing after the label of being in a 'relationship'. Demisexuals are conservative about sex and I am hoping to find myself one soon like the girl you are dating OP. Remember in such scenarios it's not just the body count that matters, it is also what values and morals does that person bring on the topic of their sexuality. It is perfectly fine in the current dating scene for a woman to have more experience in dating than a man considering we grow into a better body and it comes naturally to them in the early stages. It is what the gender is, they have it easier because men in early stages 'just' want a girlfriend and not 'why' they want them without being shallow. It will only then be wrong when she shames you for it or uses it against you, it shows that she doesn't respect you for your inexperience (if that's the case here) and then it's completely rational for you to leave. If she doesn't have a problem with you being you then understand who she is and accept it since you two are in a relationship and have feelings for each other, you two care for each other and it is definitely leading towards a positive conclusion.
[–]Low-Faithlessness848 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fear of that number comes from your own insecurities. You go - if they’re experienced they could be judging my ability.
News flash - if they have a high number and choose you, that’s a compliment to YOU.
[–]Contango6969 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most women would lie about this with a gun to their head. Don’t dwell on it at all cause you’ll never get the truth anyway. And it’s just not really productive
[–]chatpal91 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
edit: Reminder. Sort by controversial if you want a healthy balance of opinions. Redditors have no self control and will downvote anything they disagree with. You will not get a healthy balance of perspectives if you just sort by best and start scrolling down.
ITT white knights and women coping about body count numbers
Men lie and say they have a higher body count than they actually do (because for men it supposedly says something about your sexual value, game, worthiness in the eyes of women, experience, etc).
Women lie and say they have a lower body count than they actually do (because for women it says something about your discipline, your ability to maintain 'purity', have self worth without the need for external validation etc).
Anyway OP, it's not an easy question to answer. Women have the luxury of extremely easy access to sex, and incredible amounts of free attention. Often the younger and more beautiful the woman, the more free attention available.
You're going to have to do your best to judge the effort she's putting into the relationship, the attraction she seems to have for you, how much she puts herself out there on social media for validation, how much she 'tolerates' attention and moves from other men, etc.. all while you'll have to work on being self aware and controlling your own insecurities, and stop yourself from jumping to conclusions.
Women are dishonest about their sexual past (because despite the predictable circle jerk on reddit about it being something that doesn't matter.. women know that it matters.) Women lie about it because they know it matters. But if her real number genuinely is 7 by that age, that's not the end of the world by any means.
Others here have pointed out the fact that one night stand body counts are "worse" in the frame of judgement by men than relationship body counts.
Best of luck to you OP. Work on yourself, check your own insecurities(but do NOT ignore your gut instinct), and most of all, take the advice here with a grain of salt.. mine included.
[–]More-Cranberry3323 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes you’re just gonna feel uncomfortable no matter what. Some people are able to not care while others are more prone to feeling jealousy. Wether it’s 1 or 20.
I’m one of those people. My current girlfriend was a virgin before we met (17 & 18 our first time together). But I still feel myself getting uncomfortable with the fact that she fooled around with one person before me.
Before her I had dated a girl who had a pretty high body count but I didn’t really give a shit because I knew we were just passing time.
If your love and connection with her is strong you’re going to feel a lot of uncomfortable emotions. But it’s your responsibility as an adult to work through those emotions on your own and not let if effect your relationship. Especially since you guys are in your late 20’s.
I’m currently working through those same emotions myself.
You can’t change the fact that she was a normal adult human before she met you. I’m assuming you weren’t a virgin before you met her, and she may feel those emotions too but it’s easier for women to suppress those feelings because society tells them it’s normal for us to have a high body count. Plus, I’d say 7 is pretty low for a woman in her late 20’s. You’re lucky man.
[–]vLeskur 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im 18 and i know of girls that already got drilled by like 15 guys so, for a person nearing 30, i think 7 is alright. Thats approximately a 2 year long relationship with every partner, and its really unrealistic to expect someone to not have sex in 2 years. Id be more concerned about her personality and why she has had so many failed relationships. Girls with stabilty like you describe her tend to be very prideful and kind of egoistic/narcissistic at times, so watch out for those red flags because her bodies are not an issue here.
[–]ApollosSin 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lmao what a high number imo is like 20+ in your twenties.
I'm only 23 and im already on 7 lol. Seven is a low number
[–]swhatrulookinat 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A little but shes mine now so I win.
[–]canuckle1211 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As a guy, over 10 raises my concerns, over 20 is likely not gonna be my life partner. Having said all that, it’s all situational
[–]CherryPieNeko 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've only been with two that includes my current partner. My partner has been with 5 or 6 I believe and idc. We just both got tested before we started having sex.
[–]Thepurge101 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im 30, male. Been with between 15-25 women, I lost count, im not one who tried to sleep around persay. I remember years back reading a study that said the average person has 7 sexual partners in their lifetime.
Controversial opinion here. I am waiting for marriage and want a girl who is doing the same.
Why am I here then?
The advice and support is good for me. I am just looking to get a girls number for now. Let the dating and other stuff come after I get a number.
I don't ask and don't tell. It's ridiculous. As long as they're healthy, whatever someone did before you is their business.
[–]erenbajracharya 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For me (27M) I'm somewhere in my 30's and recently I have felt like I'm in a good number.
For me (27) I'm somewhere in my 30's and recently I have felt like I'm in a good number.t I wasn't the best at sex and foreplay but now I can easily react to the situation(after fucking once I can usually know what someone would enjoy the most) when recently more and more of my newer partners have complimented me. to answer your question 5-10 would be low 20-30 average and andy 3 digit would be high. (life goal to reach 3 digits ) also if u can't tell kinda a fuck boy/ open relationship person.
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebanthas 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
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Hi all, 29(m) here and curious as to how many of you truly care about sexual past of women you are considering dating? I see a ton of posts on Reddit stating that "it doesn't matter"
I would advise you to please check the pinned post at the top of the subreddit.
And ask yourself how does asking this question or its answer give you an advantage in dating?
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For those of you in your upper 20's nearing 30, what do you consider low range, average range, and high range of past partners?
Why does it matter to you what other people think is a big or small number?
Why does the number matter at all?
I submit to you that being focused on this number is a function of insecurity. No number will satisfy in this situation.
0? Then she's likely to suck in bed.
Anything larger than zero? And you're constantly going to be comparing yourself to whoever those mysterious people were.
It's pointless to be focused on this number because it doesn't help you do anything other than feed your security.
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It seems for me (living in the U.S.) that I rarely find anyone who has had less than 10 partners at the age of 30.
People with experience are more likely to have a good idea of how to have fun in bed. Provided they're clean of STDs, there shouldn't be any concern for you here.
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Currently seeing a woman who is 29 years old and has been with 7 people.... However that number bothers me and Idk if I'm being unrealistic.
You're feeding your insecurity. You need to have a long conversation with yourself about why this number should matter at all. None of these guys are in the picture now.
And once again, this number has absolutely nothing to do with dating success so this post doesn't really belong in this subreddit.
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Lastly: I don't care about this number myself and I don't ask.
I also don't talk about my own number because it's irrelevant to whoever I'm dating at the time.
Although I think you could discuss your own number with someone you trust, in general it's a pretty bad idea to bring your number up with anyone unless you really have a good, solid relationship built up.
[–]TheRealAlkemyst 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If she's been sexually active since 16, I highly doubt only 7 partners in 13 years. Be careful because some women don't count sex with a condom or sex where a man cums outside them. They have some strange rules to lower the numbers.
In general assume a women will have new partner every 1-3 months when not in a relationship if they are actively looking.
Most women will never be honest about their numbers as both too low and too high cause them grief. I knew one woman that claimed only 3 partners when I met her (we had sex after that) then when I met her again 10 years later she brought up that same number unsolicited. After we had sex again, I mentioned to her she told me that same story about 10 years prior. She had no recollection of me.
[–]TheRealAlkemyst 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it's because they don't care to give the true story.
If you have such an extensive history then you should know what the numbers are for someone around that age. Most women aren't going to kiss and tell about flings and one night stands though. There is no upside to sharing that information with anyone.
[–]whiplash81 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't care what her number is as long as she practices safe sex
[–]Still_Falls_The_Rain 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Personally if I'm in the market for wife material, I'm paying attention to sexual past as I believe it's significant to whether or not this girl has loyalty issues.
Any number over 4 partners is too much before 30 for a wifey, I better be the 5th and last if that's the case. The lower the number the better.
Good luck finding out the answer to that question without some serious creeping though. If you get close enough to this girl to find out her real number, you're probably deep in the feels at that point anyways and will be less likely to care.
I've been with a girl for 4 years now and her number keeps changing lmao started at 4 and has gone down progressively over time hahahah
[–]Still_Falls_The_Rain 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
My girl came from a different country. I met her when she was 25. She had just moved to the west that same year, so I was one of the first to pick her up.
IMO, if you're gonna wife a girl, wife one that matches your values. If you have conservative values, wife a girl from a conservative country.
I don't know what she was thinking at the beginning of our relationship. Maybe she was worried about her inexperience? Or maybe she was more honest then. Realistically, I'll never truly know. All I can do is trust that she's telling me the truth and live my life accordingly.
[–]Still_Falls_The_Rain 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same, a lot of guys do. There's nothing that will really ease your mind about it. I'm telling you that you will never find that perfect pure girl in today's day and age. That level of patriarchy is dead around most of the world.
You might find a completely pure saint, but you won't lineup on something else, and that's just a compromise you're going to have to make.
[–]SorroWulf 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think you're being highly unrealistic. I've only met a few people who've had less than 5 sexual partners (and most of them grew up ultra-conservative or repressed and now have a variety of issues revolving around sex/sexuality which seem to negatively impact their sex life [whether with a committed partner or not])
I'd say the median number from the people I know is between about 7-10. I know a few who's average relationship lasts close to 6 years, so their number is lower, I think 3 year relationships are about average pre-marriage.
I think the conservative stigma around multiple partners is almost always really sexist, and the modern view of purity is bullshit. When the bible was written there were no modern medicine or STD prevention methods.
[–]SorroWulf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just turned 28, personally, I've had 7 different partners. My friend group ranges between 25-37 years old.
I think a ton of what "average" constitutes depends on where you grew up, how big of a city you lived in, your cultural/religious upbringing, to the point that average is going to be largely subject to those factors, and the group you're currently in. I've been told that 7 was both high and low.
I think the much healthier approach to sexual experience is to focus on why someone is having sex, rather than how many people they've had sex with. The only important factor is if their sexual style/preference matches yours. You brought up that your current lady friend has only slept with people she was dating, it's clearly important enough for you to bring up: why?
What's most important to you? That your partners generally reserve sexual intimacy for their partners? Is sexual or emotional intimacy more important to you? Is cheating a worry for you, and more importantly why? No shame in this, is there a chance you're judgemental of what you perceive as promiscuity because you're jealous of the abundance of experience others? To go back to your comment "However that number bothers me" are you bothered because of what you've been told / conditioned to feel about sex, is it that you worry that this girl isn't interested in long-term attachments?
Look for the root cause of that discomfort, sit with it for a while, and figure out what you're actually looking for.
[–]Winter-Survey3668 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
(26M) The only thing that's important would be if they have an std that they are gonna transmit to you. Body count is just a number. Why would you let a number that says nothing about a person become an obstacle in a relationship? Kinda sounds like you are just upset that she's had sex with other people but everyone has a past 🤷♂️
[–]Luchostil 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Does not matter at all
[–]YoMiner 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 31, and at last count my "number" is 62.
Personally, I have zero interest in virgins. If I met someone that had never had sex, I would likely lose interest. If they've only been with a handful, I hope that several of those individuals were at least relatively kinky, because I get really tired of having to do all the teaching/introduction work every time I find someone new.
"Low" to me is single digits. High would be probably above 150, depending on age. I really don't have an upper limit for what I consider acceptable though.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I do personally care. This is a problem that only grows worse as the burden becomes harder to cope with. I now cycle girls out and holding off committing/marrying until I find a girl who I can stomach their past. Aka virgin girl who has good morales and personality. I’m 23 it’s uncommon to find a girl who hasn’t ran through hole basketball teams 5+. Even tho in the cycle of girls I have they weren’t virgins and I know my proportion is top notch it doesn’t take away the pain I feel knowing that they shared something so special with another male. They were willing to risk getting pregnant by another. That is something I cannot stomach quiet yet and refuse to allow someone else’s standards to dictate my own. If you aren’t content with it mate that’s who you are accept it and don’t settle. Life is too short. That and virgin girls do exist lol but if you aren’t putting in the work searching for one than don’t expect it. Good things in life require work research and dedication. If u go to a local bar or club probably not the #1 places to find a wife.
[–]SharedHappiness 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't agree but thanks for the insight and sharing. You’re right that life is short. Too short to wait for perfect people.
I can't imagine finding a girl who's attractive, successful, kind, emotionally stable, has good communication, has a possibly different but nonconflicting religious belief, is within 10 years of my age, single, in the same city as me, she actually likes me back, etc - but then not wanting to be with her because she's slept with 6 guys. Of all those factors, how many guys she's slept with has the least amount of effect on who she is and how she supports you, she might even be a better partner in your relationship because of those experiences.
It's your life, but you're making it harder for sure. Best of luck all the same, hope you find her.
[–]Shadowasders23 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Y’all really on some wack shit in here, who cares how many people someone has slept with, it truly doesn’t matter unless while they’re in a relationship with you they’re sleeping with someone else. If they choose you to be with, out of 10,20,50, or 100 partners that means in some way you’re better than all of them. Take the ego boost, lose the toxicity
[–]iambabyshark 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
In this day and age, you'd be hardpressed to find a girl over the age of 18 who's a virgin, religious girls aside. While it does matter, I'd say that as long as she's slept with less guys than her age - 16, she's good. Any number higher than that could imply that she's quick to have sex on a dime and thus is bad relationship material
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Honest question. Not being a smart ass. If you're a guy who wants a lot of sex, and you meet a woman who also wants a lot of sex (have sex on a dime), how is she bad relationship material? That would mean you both have a high libido. Which could mean you're sexually compatible. Which could mean that you're getting what you want out of the relationship - a lot of sex. Why choose a woman who is not as sexual as you knowing that means you will not get as much sex as you want? Or do you feel that YOU can be the one that unlocks her sexual side (not impossible but maybe unlikely)?
I'm not picking on you, I've asked so many people this over the years. Just something I've always been curious about.
My suspicion is - you may think that if she likes sex she'll be tempted to cheat or you think she for sure will cheat. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[–]iambabyshark 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Let's say there's a 20 year old girl who's had 10 sexual partners. Let's assume she's been having sex since 16, so 4 years for 10 partners, or 10/4 (2.5) partners per year. That means her relationships lasted an average of 6 months. If her relationships only last 6 months across 10 different guys, then the common point of failure here is likely her, thus making her bad relationship material. I could be wrong here, maybe she really did encounter 10 shitty guys in a row, but it'd certainly be a red flag for someone looking for something serious
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Okay. I'm not agreeing with you but I do appreciate the response. Some people do have a "bad picker" when it comes to relationships and continue to pick the wrong people. Men and women.
So if that same woman meets a guy who has also had 10 sexual partners (or more because that's not uncommon at this point) and is the same age, should she automatically assume the exact same? That he was the cause of the failures and is not good relationship material? Right off the bat, without getting any details at all about what caused the failures? Also, I know what you mean and I'm using the word too, but if we look at failed relationships as learning experiences instead of failures that could in fact help us be better at relationships in the future.
So basic incompatibility (not just sexually, overall) doesn't come to mind of any of the 10 partners? Like neither did anything wrong they just lost the spark kind of thing? Or couldn't get on the same page about major dealbreakers but maybe the sex was good for a while and then they ended it. It's automatically assumed that one, in your opinion the woman, is at fault?
[–]iambabyshark 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"If it was the other way around is that a reasonable response". Yes. If a girl I'm with has a problem with my history (not that I usually give hard numbers) and wants to end it, then that's entirely fine. I'd rather she be clear and leave than constantly have it eating away at her. To be frank, I rarely ask or care how many past partners she's had, I was just giving OP my opinion that he isn't "wrong" for it bothering him
[–]YoMiner 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The average age that someone loses their virginity is 17. That means there are literally billions of people that have or will not lose their virginity until 18 or older.
[–]2curiousbynature 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The average adult in the US sleeps with 7-15 people in their life. It seems like the current "young people" (under 25), will likely be the reason that we need to change those stats. I've encountered many teens that have already passed the high average number. Imo, it's sad. Unless you can imagine spending the rest of your life with a person, don't have sex with them. It takes 18 LONG years to raise a child, but you'll encounter each other for the rest of your lives.
You're also complaining about her number being 7, but yours is 22? You're the PROBLEM. She was in a relationship and had an emotional connection when she chose to have sex. Do you even know the last names of every woman you've been with? 🤦♀️ Seriously, get over yourself.
[–]2curiousbynature 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely! I'm 36 and I've talked to MANY people about numbers. I'd say that 7-15 is a good range. Most people get married at some point, so the number stops increasing.
[–]dark_helmt8 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Depends on what you're trying to do. If you're looking for a relationship toward marriage, find a virgin or as close to 0 as possible. So you'll aim for younger girls. If you're looking for lays, then it doesn't matter much expect the higher the count, usually the better the sex but shorter time things will last between you.
[–]dark_helmt8 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course, but that's the beauty of game. You get to be choosy. If you have your standards for both wifey and the quick lay, you can just keep looking and enjoying yourself for as long as you want
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you love sex why would you want a virgin or very inexperienced person who doesn't know if she likes sex or not? If you love sex wouldn't you also want to spend the majority of your time fucking a woman who also likes sex? I think this type of thinking, that I know will never go away, is why there are so many people in sexually incompatible relationships.
Also, at a certain point your advice gets really creepy (like with much older men). Like manipulation and coercion creepy. Very predatory.
Is it because you think you'll have the magic dick that opens her eyes to the world of sex and create your personal sex queen? Not saying it's impossible but I think that's highly unlikely.
[–]dark_helmt8 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
No. Its because virgin girls or girls who have lower body counts tend to have better upbringings, better/non divorced family backgrounds, are generally not victims of sexual assault and they tend to value thenselves and their sexuality more. Thats what I want in a wife, among other qualities of course, but the aforementioned list is important to me. I dont really care about the opinions of women in this, so your cute attempts at calling me creepy or predatory are for my opinion is typical of a fascist leftist who wants to silence or shame or insult anyone who disagrees with them. So thats nice that you have an opinion on my opinion, but keep it to yourself cupcake no one cares.
As for girls with the higher body counts, you might find a keeper, sure. But in sharing my life experience with the OP, Ive found girls with higher body counts to be severely damaged. Theyre sexually disposable because of the damage. Im not willing to fix them or marry them. So OP can look for the keeper while banging the disposable ones, thats the idea. Call it anything you want, I call it having a stable of pretty girls and doing whatever the hell I want while I look for wifey, and livin my best life 🤣🤣🤣 while you're angry, which makes it even better 🤣🤣🤣
Right now, my stable us at 2-3 disposable girls, and it's great. They know that im seeing other girls and that Im not looking for marriage. Because their self esteem is so low and because they enjoy my company, they tolerate this. And I dont care. Either way, their opinions, dont matter, just like yours 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I'm not mad. Anyone who gets actually mad at stuff like this is just causing harm to themselves.
I know there are people who feel this way. I was just curious and shared a little of my opinion on your comment. Thanks for engaging. Good luck finding whatever you're looking for.
[–]TCMNohan -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is terrible advice.
[–]dark_helmt8 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Thats your opinion as a agro-feminist soy boy, and you're entitled to it. And im glad theres beta boys like you to marry the used up trash, keep it up.
[–]TCMNohan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Okay so I’ve had a couple of drinks and I think it would be fun to try to guess what an agro-feminist is… Someone who likes independent female farmers? Women for the liberation of… crops? Someone who boycotts cornhub.com? Is that a real thing people say?
Sure, happy to save some for the sigma male millionaire grindset lone wolves like yourself. But seriously - I understand having this mindset if you’re young, I felt the same way when I was 18. I was grossed out by the mere thought of hooking up with someone who wasn’t a virgin. But then I grew up, and I was all the better for it. You’re allowed to have preferences, but judging someone for having a higher body count says more about you than them. Also, you know how many horror stories I’ve heard first-hand from people who waited until marriage? I can’t imagine something more miserable than the disappointment of a dead bedroom after you’ve tied the know
[–]sharxbyte 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If you love your partner that includes whatever made them who they are. If you can't accept their past experiences, you don't love them, you love the idea of them.
[–]Xerexes3869 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That's what women want you to believe. Having sex with people isn't an issue. Getting fucked by a whole city is another. FWB and ons are another issues. You don't want women who yolo. Because they will never stop and eventually will fear their passing youth and would want to live it up
[–]sharxbyte 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What kind of mysoginistic koolade are you on?
[–]Xerexes3869 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You seem to be a child lurking over here. Get some experience with women. You will realise there's nothing wrong with what I said. Facts cannot be denied. Feeling don't matter
[–]sharxbyte 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have experience with women, and the more experienced ones are better in bed. if anything, I'd discriminate for lack of experience because experienced women know what they like and that makes them easier to please.
[–]Xerexes3869 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If it's ok with you then who am I to judge. She anyway got that experience somewhere. It's just people who gave her experience don't have to be in a relationship with her. But if she's a nice lady for you then it's all cool I guess. Whatever you can live with is cool
I haven’t asked that question in years. Kind of an immature thing once you get past a certain age. We’ll call that age 22-24
[–]anoyingprophet 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm a 25 yr old man, and to be completely transparent with you, until I knew I was good at sex, I cared. Once I realized I Know how to satisfy a girl, the number didn't matter. I think prior to that, I had a slight insecurity that I didn't even notice. What I care about more isn't the number of sex partners, but how those partners came about. For example, I wouldn't date a girl who was a sex worker or a girl who Is know for cheating and gold digging. Also, I think that most guys that care alot, unless they're religious or something, they deep down haven't proven to themselves they can bring it sexually. Sounds cringe ik lol. But once you have sexual confidence, you'll stop thinking about these things as much and care more about more important details. Such as chemistry and what kind of person she actually is.
[–]pokemonpokemonmario[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Yeah as a man you want your partner to have a low body count. A low number is 20 or less. High is 100 or more.
[–]pokemonpokemonmario[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is context dependent, I'm talking 16 to 30 year olds. Also if the girl is a 10 then 40 or 50 guys I pretty normal not that many will admit it but if theyre a 1 then 50 is very high and 0 to 10 would be low. Average this out and 20 is normal give or take.
I mainly deal with 4s to 6s 19 to 28 years old and they often say something between 10 and 30 people, not that I ask, girls just tell me for some reason.
You gotta remember that these girls have a huge abundance of choice so unless there is something wrong with them most women will have slept with a dozen people or so.
Also slut shaming is a huge motivation to lie about your sexual history. Of course she says she's never had a one night stand and things like that, she wants you to like you and us ashamed of it despite knowing every girl has done this or something similar at some point.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Since you specified "as a man" for whatever reason (a lot of people in general have preferences on this) - what about the guy? If OP was a woman, what would your response have been? It seems like you're saying that a woman's body count matters but a man's doesn't. If I'm wrong tell me. Otherwise you would have just thrown out the numbers you consider low and high - that's what I'm seeing anyway but again, could be wrong.
[–]pokemonpokemonmario[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Women want a man that is desired by other women. If a man is in his 20s a woman will expect you to have been with at least 5 people. If a man is desirable and straight he will have had many partners as its just male nature to want this.
It matters for both but for very different reasons.
It's why Virgin guys are seen as lesser and virgin women seen as greater, its hard for guys to get girls but easy for girls to get guys so having less or more means you're either more selective or better at seduction and romance or vice versa for the opposite sex.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think this is very flawed thinking but I can step back and see how others feel this way. It's certainly not how I and many other women I've talked to about this type of stuff feel but we're only a small sample of the population. It's also very specific (like with the 5 people in your 20s thing). I think some guys are putting way too much pressure on themselves. Sad. I just wish more people could meet like-minded people and everyone could have as much sex as they want.
So...about the just male nature. So the guys with low libidos or the asexuals or demisexuals, is that going against nature? It's not a choice, so "going against" might be the wrong phrasing. Do you think they're unnatural?
Do you truly feel that women do not have the same basic drive? Of course there are low libido and high libido women out there and everywhere in between just like with men.
Just for any virgin guys reading this, there are many women out there that DO NOT see you as less. And for any non-virgin women reading this, there are many men out there who appreciate you coming to the bedroom (or wherever you want) with experience and knowledge about what you like and don't like.
[–]pokemonpokemonmario[🍰] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're picking apart my sweeping statements. When I say men or women I mean the majority of such groups in a hetero context. The number as I said is context dependent, 5 is a little for a 30 year old man but 5 is also probably above average for a 20 year old.
So what if you have a high or low sex drive I talking about the average.
I'm willing to bet money that atleast 50% of women in there 20s wouldn't date 99% of Virgin men in their 20s. The men that are the hardest to get are the ones with the most value.
I dont mean anything harsh by my statements nor do I judge someone for having a high or low count or being a Virgin but the fact is that there are often reasons why you number is what is and however analysing that makes you feel tells you more about yourself and others you meet. The number is irrelevant without the context that preceded it. Big difference between a man saving his Virginity till marriage vs an incel with social and other issues. One obviously will be respected more than the other by the majority of healthily attractive women.
Was just trying to understand better. I very much enjoy learning how others with different views see things. Sometimes I learn things from it, good or bad.
Thanks for engaging. I would take your bet on the 50% of women in their 20s not dating virgin men in their 20s. But you may still win simply because I'm almost 40 and things have changed a lot since I was that age. Generally though, at least in my experience and my observation and interaction with others, it seems like some women put much less importance on this stuff than some men do. But I could be wrong.
[–]pokemonpokemonmario[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are absolutely right that a fraction of women don't care at all, very hard to judge how manny as its an opportunity to lie and virtue signal when you ask someone about this. I would imagine this number is far less than 50% but alot of people would lie to avoid being seen as immoral, probably more than half.
Some men spend all day on reddit picking over this stuff. As do women on their subs.
[–]dswagg87 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How can you confirm her body count? My rule is to always multiply by 2 for women and divide by 2 for men lol
[–]erickacrites 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Her number is way too low imo.
[–]JustSitnHereWaiting 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am old, 50. I have Asperger's. I say these because I've never understood why the number matters. I never asked anyone what they're number is. I've never told the exact amount that I've slept with. Why? Because you have chose the person you are with. It is that person you have to please in bed, and not who they were with before. And comparing yourself to who they had slept with before just causes anxiety that shouldn't matter. Listen to your partner, make them happy, and let them know that you don't care who they were with, and I promise you, most will appreciate it more that you care more to please them than who pleased or didn't please them before. The past only matters when an STD is involved. And even that can be worked around in most cases. Anyway, expecting a bunch telling me I'm an idiot. Oh, well.
[–]youallsuck40 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why does it just matter for women? So it’s ok for me to have a lot of sexual partners but not women? It doesn’t matter and it’s none of your business who your partner was with with before you or how many ppl they were with period. You need to grow up. I’m shocked this is coming from a 30yr old adult
[–]SuperHanssssss 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who gives a fuck. The past was then. The present is now. Don't throw away a good relationship over nothing.
[–]kingbeem 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude unless she has something she needs to disclose to you (i.e. STD or a crazy ex) you shouldn't need to care. The only thing you need to worry about is that the number doesn't go up while you two are together. Honestly knowing that number will likely give a lot of guys insecurity that they don't need tbh. Don't set the relationship up to psych yourself out.
[–]kumori_77 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women aren't keys, not objects
[–]straight2thadome 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right. Cuz they are the lock in this scenario 🤣🤦♂️
[–]Finessence 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’ve never asked and I’ve never told. I had a girl ask once and I told her if she needs to know due to sexual health, I would tell her only under the strictest secrecy because we have a lot of mutual friends. She declined to know my number.
Good call here. And really it’s not even necessary for that unless there is a history of disease and people need to be informed.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Women lie about their body count all the time. So if you think 7 is bad, try adding 10 more to that. My advice is, just don't inquire about it and live in blissful ignorance. For your own mental security.
Cheers bud 🍻
[–]ItachiShaikh 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How could a comment possibly be this good?
I keep it straight and to the point
A lot of people in general lie about this and many other things. It's not a man or woman thing. It is a little humorous to me that guys will sometimes lie to increase their numbers in the same way that a woman may lie to decrease hers. But at the same time I think that's part of the reason why men and women seem to have some major issues with each other. Both actions are reinforcing beliefs that I feel are unhealthy.
I totally agree not to ask. Get tested and then have fun.
Very true. Men do inflate their numbers to act cool. But I never said it's an only women thing. I directed my comment to women since it's women that OP is concerned with, rather than men.
[–]HandsomeHerb 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
so your advice is telling others to stay ignorant?
what could possibly go wrong lol
Yeah, when you dumb it down to the lowest degree, no shit it sounds bad. Thought you were on to something there didn't you?
Moving onward, please explain to me what's the benefit of pestering a woman about her body count?
well first of all no one said anything about pestering anyone about anything
but heres how i see it since you asked, i believe people should live in their truth. I dont see ANY and i mean ANY reason for anyone to lie about thier body counnt male or female why lie about anything? why do you feel the need to lie are you ashamed?
i believe people should be held accoutable
if you out here getting fucking off every other person because you feel sexually liberated good for you but that dont mean i have to like it
you go find you someone who doesnt care
and ill find someone with a lower body count
but thats hard to do if everyone is just going to lie
Look man, the fairytale land you dream of doesn't exist. People will always lie on their body count. Not everyone does it, but a great amount does. Unless you bag a virgin (what are the chances amirite), you won't know if she has 3 bodies or if the entire team ran a train on her. You can trust whatever she says her count is, but you'll never be certain. So it's better to put that thought at the back of your mind.
In the meantime, have a snickers. Sounds like you would enjoy one right about now
where in my post does it say i put that at the top of the list of my mates? who cares?
look just because you accept everyone lies doesn't mean everyone else should
im too real to let things like that affect me
if i decide to date you with a high body count its because you crossed off so many other things on my checklist that that shit dont matter
but lying about anything to me personaly is the end of the relationship
i dont cheat and i dont lie
God bless you 🙏🏼
you too
you one funny ass sarcastic person
but thats my kind of humor
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
A key which opens many locks is a valuable key. A lock which is opened by many keys, well, people don’t buy those locks…
Facts
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It depends. If a woman has an absurd number like 30-50 or over, it’s a turn off for me.
There are some studies I’ve seen that after like 12 the likelihood of a partner cheating on you goes up exponentially.
More than 15-20.
This is purely a single people social issue. I should hope the majority of us aren't looking at married women and judging their belt notches.
I gotta run but I'm open to this. An actual decent post with decent neutral discussion hell yeah.
Idk if I have a hard line. It depends on the woman and how much I like her.
Personally I’ve been with 10 people and whenever it’s more than that it puts me on edge. In my experience women are constantly (if they are attractive) being propositioned and it’s hard for me to trust someone if I know they sleep around.
Like what? First time we fight are you just going to go bang some other dude and expect me to be okay with it?
I love this comment. If you're not accurate you're definitely close.
What people fail to realize is life is always gonna be relative... Einstein was ahead of his time lol.
[–]2curiousbynature 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m a guy who could go sleep with 3-4 women today no doubt in my mind if I wanted
Why are you really here? You've made it very apparent that you can do anything and it's acceptable. You're freaking out over her past, which includes 7 people from relationships. You just said you could have sex with 3-4 women TODAY. Why do you believe in double standards?
[–]Xerexes3869 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You are rationalising just so we can tell you it's all ok. Why do you even ask a question if you want to argue against an answer. Seems like you mind is already made up. You are going to do what you want regardless
[–]Xerexes3869 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It's not how many she slept with. It's why. Were they FWB. Were they ONS. Were they all bfs. If yes then why did they break up with her or she with them. Do you seriously believe a person goes through 7 or 10 boyfriends? Why aren't the relationships lasting. If you have been in a relationship you will know 6-9 months is the honeymoon period. Are the relationships falling apart as soon as that is over? Can be seriously believe none of the relationships lasted a couple of years?
These are pertinent questions. But sadly you won't get honest answers to them if you ask. You need to let her talk. Listen closely to what she says about past. Don't judge. Let her dig a hole for herself if she wants. Then when you have answers either bury her in it or give her a hand. Choice is yours neo
[–]Xerexes3869 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
As long as you are happy I guess it's all fine. You have to live with her not us. If she makes you happy then she's the one.
[–]Xerexes3869 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't matter if it's 7 or 10 or 12. If you are comfortable it can be 30. It's all about your comfort. Even being a hypocrite isn't wrong per se. To hell with morals if you can't sleep at night. Don't let some inexperienced lefty loonies who might not have been in a proper relationship tell you otherwise. Some people have been in a FWB but would prefer their gf hasn't been in one. It's not wrong to think like that since morals and desires hardly reconcile ever. You might want to feel a certain way due to society but you hardly ever will.
Similarly I might say don't be a hypocrite and marry some girl who regularly had casual sex at parties. You might. Under duress of society. But be prepared to let your mind wander everytime she goes to a party alone. It's your choice. You are the closest to the situation.
[–]KingOfNeptune 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
The brainwashing in this thread is strong.
This idea that you shouldn’t be bothered by her sexual past is part of the neoliberal propaganda bullshit machine. Women having insanely high standards is encouraged and celebrated. But the moment a man has a dating preference, everyone gets out their pitchforks.
Men and women’s sexual value comes from different places. Men are valued by women for their status and wealth. Women are valued by men for their youth and health and purity. It is normal and natural and good to care about your partner’s sexual past.
The more men a woman sleeps with, the less sacred and special intimacy is to her.
I believe the formula is this: (her age - 10) / 5 = number of acceptable partners
[–]Agreable_Actuator84 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All things equal, of course it matters. If you had two options you equally liked in all aspects except partner count, as a guy you’d choose the lower number partner to marry and mother your children. But life rarely is that simple and people vary across so many other qualities that partner count becomes one of many factors.
What are your other options? You may not find someone with less at her age, most will have more. If you do have less they may have low libido or something. It’s your life, only you get to chose how you live it. Nothing wrong with accepting her as she is, nothing wrong with moving on.
if it takes more than 2 hands to count its too many
[–]bufffrog 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is logical to correlate high numbers with your own relationship being short-term, it is however courteous to give it a fair shot first.
[–]Desmiondo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It depends I personally don't care But a lot of guys are self-conscious about it so they prefer a girl with less partners. If your looking for a wife, however than yeah you should pay attention since the less partners a women has the lower chances of divorce.
[–]ItachiShaikh 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To me it matters a lot. There are some things about individuals that do not change. I don't want a promiscuous woman to upbring my children.
[–]Hindu_Kirby 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Any number after 0
[–]Hindu_Kirby 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I am not 30 yo. I am in early 20s so would prolly find one. Plus, I am not in America, so that's an extra factor in my favour.
[–]XanthicStatue 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Dude you’re being super unrealistic, very immature, and extremely insecure. Get over it or dump for a virgin. A realistic number is 3-4 partners per year.
[–]HandsomeHerb 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
in a big market maybe but what about in a small town?
[–]XanthicStatue 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For a hot chick I don’t think it matters. For an average or below average woman, likely less. But there will always be some man that will fuck even the ugliest of women.
[–]politits 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are being unrealistic, unnecessarily judge mental, and a misogynistic hypocrite. If you could have slept with a different attractive woman every day of your life you would have. Stop having double standards. Body count doesn’t matter. Judge someone by their character and how they treat you and others. That’s it.
[–]politits 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok, so you’re not having double standards, you’re just extremely judgmental in general, including of yourself. Sounds like therapy might do you a lot of good as you have internalized a lot of negative views towards natural and healthy behaviors that you then project onto others as well.
[–]SithLordJediMaster 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Where can a man find a virtuous woman? For she is far above rubies." - Proverbs 31:10
[–]kanyesbathroommirror 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This sub: "I've slept with over 200 women AmA"
Also this sub: oMg tHiS aTtRAcTiVe wOmAn HaS hAd 7 pArTneRs 😭😭😭
lol what
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
If you’re not willing to wife her, then doesn’t matter
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[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Right ma dude, thats is a problem.
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[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Its better being single and complaining about her past, rather than complaining about her present later on
But the best is not shooting in ur foot in first place
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
She’s your only choice thats why u kinda wanna “settle”. Its like choosing the one with minimal red flags cuz u can’t find green flag)
The thing is, you (just like her as well) repeating same pattern again n again. And hoping that “this one” will end up somehow different. Just nah)
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[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I see. Well, I’ll see ya on another post you make after a while. Good luck ma dude
Of all the girl friends I’ve had, the ones who were more repressed, settled down early, and only had a few partners were most likely to cheat. Maybe it’s just a different way of looking at it. But you don’t know what you’re missing out on if you’ve never had it. Women live secret lives when they’re forced to hide parts of themselves or are repressed. So it comes out in the wash anyways. The most important thing is that she knows herself and healthily is engages with her sexuality. If she is confident, happy, and healthy, her body count really won’t matter.
man people really need to be held accountable for their actions
[–]bbcSnowbunnyslayer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its none of your buisness unless you contract an STD or STI. She's not a car so don't ask for the CarFax.
you right, shes not a car, she has the choice of wether or not she wants miles on her
a car doesnt have a choice
[–]spandexgod 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To quote chris rock “never ask, cause u dont wanna know. Just be happy ur fucking her now. there is no number good enough for u, she could say 2. ‘TWO?!! Two!! Two! Guess that’s just how you was raised”
[–]sbseltzer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't see the problem with someone having a lot of past partners or sexual encounters. It's probably worth asking yourself why it specifically matters to you.
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[–]sbseltzer 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mmm yeah that's rough. I think it's pretty common for this to happen. I grew up in a very conservative town and their unhealthy relationship values rubbed off on me for a while. I later realized these ideas were weighing me down and causing me to self sabotage. It takes some mental and emotional effort to overcome that kinda stuff. Reflecting on where those values come from, whether they are grounded in reality, and whether they make sense for you and your happiness is a worthwhile exercise.
[–]fr0ntsight 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it matters to me. When I asked my last girlfriend (before she became my girlfriend) after our 2nd or 3rd date she said "how many have you had?". I said about 8-10ish and she said me too. We were about 26 at the time. About a month into our relationship I noticed her phone literally only had guy's numbers and all of her pictures were with guy's. I asked her if she was being honest about the number and she admitted that she lied. Apparently she had been with about 30 before she even graduated highschool and guessed she was somewhere around 50ish....I thought she was still lying and at that point I didn't even want to know the real number. We are no longer together. I couldn't ever really trust her.
Don't start relationships based on a lie.
[–]youallsuck40 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can tell you I’ve never once in my life though about any of my SO’s sexual partners before me. Why would I?
I forgot this sub is full of red pilled idiots that think they are God’s gift. Completely one of the most toxic subs filled with toxic men that aint shit
[–]LA_17 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dawg, if 7 bothers you, you’re being unrealistic.
[–]getting-harder 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
'Ignorance is bliss'
[–]PresentAlternative48 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yikes. Under 10 and you’re concerned? Sad
[–]scenesick2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you cant really judge them on their past, you can't change it , they're also different people now
[–]oscarony -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
if she has over 15 different bodies (or over 4 different long term relationships) then i can’t ever consider her my girlfriend
if she has over 5 bodies (or more than 3 different LTRs) then i would never ask her to marry me
[–]oscarony 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yes, but it also is determined on their personality and how much their past relationships have affected them
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When I was younger I hooked up with a 21yo girl that said she'd already blown like 50 guys. Gross
[–]BodaciousBaka 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
unfortunately you became the 51st guy 🤧
[–]bigheadmushroom -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she says just 7, I bet she meant 77
[–]snowdude11 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have slept with roughly 22 compared to her 7
Are you serious dude.... You have 3 times as many sexual partners but you not sure if she is "holy" or "pure" enough to be wife material. You are a massive hypocrite
She's been a friend of mine for many years, intelligent, mature, great job, and seems reserved
So she is an absolute catch, but your toxicity is preventing you from seeing that. Honestly would recommend moving on because she doesn't deserve your slut-shaming BS. Who cares what a bunch of internet strangers have to say about it.
[–]gangweedsavedme -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Above 5 is a red flag
The average number of partners in the US is 7-15 for adults throughout their lifetime. Mine is lower than this, but most people that I know are on the higher end, if not past this range.
[–]gangweedsavedme 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I guess if you plan on getting married to someone in your late 20s, since the goal of relationships are to develop into marriages, if your partner selection keeps ending in break ups, it becomes a red flag.
This. Some who usually indulges in casual sex but wants to be with you in a relationship instantly has nothing but sex to offer or that's what they think. They think relationship will start after sex and when it doesn't they move from one to another.
[–]tryhardpro7 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If shes a girlfriend 100+ is still not a problem
If shes going to be your wife then even 2+ is toooooooo high
[–]Bigbaby4nu 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah, she must be a Virgin or no ring 💍
[–]tryhardpro7 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Heres the thing the area u live in matters a lot on finding the right one, usually the more religious she is, more connected with family she is, more connected to home and further away from social media the better and higher chances shes a virgin, my age group is late twenties 26-29 and when looked in the right places ive found many of them with 0 body counts who wait till marriage and rn im with one who is a few years younger but has good values and is pro sex after marriage, and at this point i dont mind
[–]SpookyKG -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're not being 'unrealistic' - you're being judgey and lame. You haven't discussed your number. You probably wish you had one partner for every 2 years of active dating life.
You're just being judgey and you should work on yourself - its a you problem, not a her problem.
[+][deleted] -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Please tell me you are not asking these women how many people they have been with?!? Jesus Christ. It’s none of your business!!!!!
[+][deleted] -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Because they want to make sure they aren’t wasting a number on a dude who doesn’t know how to fuck. I promise you that’s why they are asking. Lol.
[–]hulk_hogans_nutsweat 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But I thought it’s nobody’s business? Or does that only work one way?
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s none of peoples biz IMO
[–]BobbyJoeMcgee -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn’t matter.
[–]thementalyogi -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
14,987,032
[–]Narcan9 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seven is the number of guys she admits to. Add another seven for the guys who "don't count".
Anyways, I care about a girl's past. I hope she's a freak with a strong sex drive. I'll pass on puritans, girls with hangups, and low drives.
[–]DeadPlantOnASpeaker -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
See, all the people are different and take it different ways. Having couple of female drinking buddies I can tell couple of thing. They are not that different than we are when it comes to sex. If anything it's so much easier for them to have it when they want it. Some go through a "slut stage" in their life, all for different reasons just to find out what they want in life or curiosity.
Give an example, one girl is 29 and been with one guy for the past ten years, have a daughter with him, they live together and all. Perfect girl right? Her body count? 21
Mine count being this age was 4, all 2-4 years relationships. At the age of 30 you should expect some past. Or putting it the other way: are you still single at this age? There must be something wrong with you, right? 30yo virgin? Avoid as fire. Now that I'm almost 40 my body count is 17. And I don't think it's a high number considering how unsuccessful my dating life is.
So yeah, look at yourself first. Do you wish you shagged more girls at this point? Do you care about your current girl? How much any of your past girls means to you now? Past is the past. Sure, I'd wanted those missed opportunities to work out but that's life. And to be fair, if you are worried of her numbers, at this point, especially knowing her for years. One thing you didn't mentions is your number. What is it? She is well below average but are you? I'd gladly swap those one night stands for a one worthy woman. Emotional bond is what matters after all. Just don't ask her if she misses sex with her exes or the size of their dicks, there is the reason she's not with them anymore. Comprende?
so she had 21 bodies at age 19 before this dude?
sheesh
[–]the_bbutterfly -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't know, don't care, never asked
[–]justthinkingabout1 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You can’t make a hoe into a housewife
[–]Glass_Supermarket_37 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Judging her for (what I consider) so few partners is more of an unfortunate reflection on your character than hers. She sounds pretty amazing and you're lucky to have her. Consider if she found out about this and it affected how she feels about you back, is this really something you want to be hung up on?
If you want a woman who's untouched maybe you would be happier in the middle east or marrying a 12 year old, that is where this kind of mindset seems to lead. Get your head out of that nonsense and appreciate that she is her own person with her own life and that she made you one of that number.
[–]DanJDare -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST STOP WORRYING ABOUT THIS CRAP! DON'T ASK, DON'T WONDER, DON'T COMPARE YOURSELF JUST STOP!
This message brought to you by the society of dans over this shit.
[–]Placated_Venom -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As a man 10 is the absolute limit for me, and I've heard the same from plenty of other guys. There may be a little wiggle room, like maybe 11 or 12, maybe, but yeah not really past that
[–]Canadian-Seductioner -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I only care enough to make sure she has experience because sex with virgins or girls who don't know what they're doing sucks. Apart from that, as long as it's not excessively high (like maybe over 200 (unless she's a porn star or swinger)), I don't care what her number is.
It also depends on age too. A girl in her 20s over 200 would be off-putting. In her 30s would be questionable, but in her 40s I probably wouldn't blink an eye. It also depends on whether they're in the swinger lifestyle or not too since that tends to skew the numbers heavily.
[–]MisterSisterFister12 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I absolutely care, because i have standards. 3 before me max.
[–]MisterSisterFister12 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I am 20. So like 18-25 for me is good.
No, but i will probably ask eventually.
I had that happen with my ex. Way into the relationship i found out i was her eighth. I didnt dump her, but the relationship was never the same, and i broke it off eventually. So next time i'll probably just dump her immediatly and not waste my time.
[–]MisterSisterFister12 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yes, that is mad made it bad. She was 19, and had fucked almost 10 guys. If she was like 30 i would be more accepting lol since the girls im gonna date are ~20 i think no more than 5 is acceptable.
I agree 100% 7 is very different if you're 20 or 30.
[–]MisterSisterFister12 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Same. I was shocked when i found out my ex's past lol. I thought she was kinda innocent. And it happens all the time. I meet a girl, she seems innocent enough, i think i found someone decent and BAM bodycount of 20 before they're 20 themselves lol
[–]MisterSisterFister12 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
From anywhere. And yeah it's crazy how normal it is ti fuck a dozen guys by the time you're like 20. At least here. So i guess i am gonna be single for a while, because i cant find a single decent girl lol
[–]AndThenThereWasOne0 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I do. For me, I think more than two or three guys is too many
[–]JacobMoogberg69 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Nigga, at least admit that the only reason you are worried is that she may have come across a better dick than your dick. Be honest with yourself. That's the first step towards freedom.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You can't even be honest with yourself. I don't care if you lie to me. I'm a rando on the internet, but you can't even be honest with yourself.
[–]BobbyJoeMcgee 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I always figured if that topic is an issue then there must be some insecurities that will rear their head later. Doesn’t matter to me.
[–]NowNLater69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess it matters to some degree but I’m not all that positive that it has a negative impact unless the experiences were negative. Speaking from my own experience, sleeping around has made me a more confident lover, in both self esteem and ability. I’m a bisexual man and when I came into my sexuality, I went a little nuts. I kept track the year I came out but beyond that I don’t even know my number anymore because I stopped keeping track and I think it’s silly to bother with it. I remember the ones who were really good, the rest have faded away with time.
[–]3SidedDie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup, but not as you think.
I like knowing what she likes, what she didnt like...
But numbers? Its just shows how much fun she had.
[–]bribribooboo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In my experience, the people who have asked or care about a number are insecure that they won’t live up to the other people. IMO the number literally means nothing because I have not been in many relationships so my number is a little higher, but I know people who have been in relationships most of their life and while their number is lower than mine, they have had sex more times than me.
[–]Least_Ticket2917 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No. It’s none of my business because I wasn’t in the picture, and there’s a good chance that I won’t like what I hear. Why ask questions I wouldn’t want the answer to? Not worth it.
[–]porn-chicken 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol they should worry about my past! I've banged some absolute munters after a few too many shandies...
Once you get older, it's kind of assumed everyone has a history. I don't bring it up and neither do they. Make sure you get tested every time you get a new partner, then it's not anything to worry about.
29 is a lot and 7 is not a high number for relationships imo. I honestly wouldn't do it but you have to keep in mind that the chance that you find a woman with less than 29 & 7 is small, especially in a western society. So as long as she's a good person go for it & don't let it bother you
I'm not a westerner so my values and expectations are a bit different that's why I wouldn't do it
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm so sorry!!!!! That is a HUGE misunderstanding on my part. I thought 29 was sexual partners and 7 was relationship partners. If that's the case then 7 is not a very high number at all. Like at all and you shouldn't be worried. Honestly 7 for a 29 year old woman in today's culture shows some restraint. Go for it my guy.
Like 7 is so low that if a girl told me 7 (I have never asked though) I would assume I'm being lied to but you two have been friends throughout the years so the odds that you're being lied to is extremely low tbh. Sorry about my misunderstanding
[–]marks1995 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she'd being honest, 7 is nothing for a 29 year old woman. That's literally 1 guy every 2 years or so since she was 16.
I hate this question because if you look at it reasonably, 1 or 2 a year is not that many if you stayed dating the whole time. So her number could easily be over 20. But when you just say "20-30", it does sound like a lot.
[–]Mog_Melm 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"36?!!"
Any double digit body count
[–]skinisblackmetallic 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I care more if they can spell “too” correctly.
[–]KingofLingerie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that number is low ad well body counts are something to not be concerned about. change what you can. accept what you can't.
I hope no woman cares about the fact that I’m 22 and that my number is absolutely 0
at this point you will be a novelty and women would love that they are your first
trust me
i think women have taken the promiscuous role that men used to have where they would say men are players and they only want sex
i think women are becoming men in that regard abd soon enough they will be fighting over guys who are more "pure" hey i might be wrong tho
this is just a THEORY
[–]dasvulk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you are asking then do a blood test then you know if it matters
[–]FoggyDanto 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As long as it is more than one, they are all just in the same boat
[–]SomeParticular 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m like you OP where I do care about this (even though I agree with most people that we really shouldn’t), and I’d say 7 is on the low end to be honest. I def wouldn’t let that bug you
[–]starshineblueyes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It used to bother me when I was younger. Im 40 now and divorced and have come to the conclusion that people lie for this reason.
If they love you and want to be with you, and you love them, what does it matter? Get a test and move on if you're that concerned.
I stopped counting cause at the end of the day if number matters to you I’ll move on. What I did in the past shouldn’t effect your view of who I am today. Everyone has baggage
damn stopped counting? sheesh
[–]banditcleaner2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes to some extent. Hate to say it but as a man, my partner having a high number really means a lot of things; One, in my experience, women with higher numbers tend to have more drama in their lives, which I don't like. Two, higher chance of STDs which I realistically only start caring about if the number is very high. Three, high amount of exes which means I might have to deal with men that I really don't want to. And four it's a higher chance she will cheat or get taken from me
[–]NewCommonSensei 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t really ask. Assuming it’s less than mine. If she tells me nice things like “you’re the best I’ve ever had” on her own volition then I definitely do not care. Also assuming she’s still tight.
Though I don’t want to be in a Long term relationship with a very promiscuous woman.
[–]nsj23 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Forget a body count. I only care about STD’s.
[–]TheDynamicKing 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
do you judge a shoe's value by how many times it has been wore?
[–]tropius5 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So long as my partner tests clean, I don't really care how many bodies they have I treat myself between partners and every June and December.
[–]InappropriateSnark 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I did not care in my 20s and 30s and I do not care now. Quit fucking asking people this shit and enjoy your life. If you’re so threatened by former lovers, why do you ask?!? I will never understand this.
[–]irridium77 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah, don’t care. We all like a good slut in bed. Just make sure you’re both STD free before that tarp comes off
[–]changthaiman 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do you even know her number. Don’t ask. It never matters.
[–]NewbieCasanova 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This sub reddit has turn into a hippie nesting bunch of fags. Her history absolutely matter in terms of long term relationship. Anyone who say it doesn't, is 1 aren't well versed with psychology, and 2. think women and men operate on the same playing field.
[–]nCRedditor-21 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
7 is nothing. Dude the fact she’s been with 7 people means she could’ve been with far more.
And the statement that pretty much sums dating today is “she’s not yours, it’s just your turn.”
[–]Soberskate9696 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"10"
100
[–]Remarkable-Cat1337 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you shouldn't be asking questions that you aren't ready for the answers
[–]LongLiveDetroit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hell ye i care i ain't trying date a hoe thats been passed around. Anything over 5 is too much and if shes had a one night stand she also a hoe and if she lies about it she not just a hoe but a dishonest hoe hell nah i don't play that.
[–]LongLiveDetroit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im 22 and i didn't read you paragraph lil bro i just read the title
[–]idkbroimdrunkandsad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Uh I wouldn’t worry about someone’s “numbers”. I don’t understand why you would.
[–]ChurchofCaboose1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean does it matter? Is someone a different person after you learn how many they were with than before you knew? It really shouldn't matter.
But I'm 28 M, I've had about 8 partners. But again, it shouldn't matter
[–]556fivefivesix 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
7 at 29?? That bothers you? Yeah, you are 100% unrealistic. Also, stop fucking caring so much about body counts. Won't help you. Won't make you or her happy, so just stop.
Once a woman senses you judging them for their past, they will simply LIE to you. Happens all the time. Girls who "only slept with their ex" more often than not has had multiple ONS. But hey, "it doesn't count" in their head, so they lie. If you have female friends, or just date a lot- you will see and hear the same shit over and over. And when it comes to the topic of bodycounts, just don't ask if you know it will bother you. Or don't be judgmental, and she WILL tell you. I personally talk to girls I date about this all the time- because I want to tell myself I don't care. I know deep down I used to, but now I am the point where I know this shit won't benefit me or her, and I just want to have fun. It's just a waste of energy to be upset over shit you can't change or control.
Let go of this "is this bodycount high??" shit now. Trust me you will be happier.
[–]ButterSunflower 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What’s your body count? Is it more than 10? Why does how many people she slept with in her past, a past that has nothing to do with you, matter so much?
[–]Bingo_is_the_man 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ve met a couple chicks with low numbers. It’s better to date a younger lady for that reason otherwise you’re just buying a used car.
The only real thing to truly worry about is stds. I guess some people can have many partners and not catch anything and others can have far less and have something. Also, this can be seen as a good thing because 1) She already knows what she likes 2) she has experience and can better understand you in bed
but you also cant force yourself to feel comfortable with something that really bothers you. Its going to cause problems later on.
[–]coffee9table9fitness 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That sounds ridiculous and I don’t mean any offense. You are stepping into a world of seduction, not people who have not spent a lot of their life getting around. With today’s culture I’d be shocked to meet a girl over 25 with that low of a count and would truly wonder if she was gonna be a clinger. I recently have been seeing a 19 year old who really surprised me when I found out I was her 6th guy.
[–]SnappyCapricorn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Anyone fretting over “body count” isn’t ready for a relationship.
Much bigger concerns are safe sex practices & sex offenses.
Funny how many ppl I’ve chatted with irl or online who obsess over their partners’ past relationships yet shy away from getting tested for STDs together or do a google search.
[–]CptTylor 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As a guy(26) who has had over 50 sexual partners I don't really care.
Especially cause I used to escort for a while. I actually find that more women I'm trying to date care more about my sexual past than the men I've tried to date.
[–]GarlicTraditional227 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I personally don’t think (women) are ever honest about their body count especially when they live in a college town. Not really my business so that being said off rip I never leave all my eggs in 1 basket so I don’t have reason to care tbh🤷🏾♂️
[–]BasedSage 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Damn I’m a hoe. Body count 60 by the time I was 25.
atleast you are honest i respect tf out of that
[–]DEUS4EX2MACHINA0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't matter. Don't ask don't tell if it's going to be an issue
[–]wikipuff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
26 M here. The population of San Marino is too high.
[–]_Arch_Angel_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What, specifically, bothers you about it?
[–]HotDogRandy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My body count is in the hundreds. If I meet a girl and she tells me she is in the same range then I will know for sure she is telling the truth. If she tells me she has only been with like 10 people, then I'm going to be skeptical
[–]Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So to be honest , My husband and I never asked numbers, or real specific intimate details about previous partners. We both where married, and dated after our divorces before meeting each other. So we both know we slept with others and lived a life before meeting each other. We both enjoyed each other's company. Things grew from there .
[–]strengthfrombalance 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No. Why does it matter?
Yes,i want a women who is an oldschool like me,anything above 3 is concern,now don't get me wrong a little experience is okay but just don't be the town bicycle and if brought up i like her to be honest and truthful it's not like I'm gonna judge her but i will from her actions
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Ya I care
[–]TheCaribbeanRedditor 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't ask. Personally I'm not interested in knowing. When you get to the stage of wondering "how many" you're probably in a negative mental state where you're comparing yourself and your sexual past to hers. Nothing good can come from that.
More important to me is her sexual health status. I get myself checked up at least once a year. I would encourage us to BOTH go for screenings regularly
[–]PhillyWes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I used to care about this - when I was much younger. But the truth is I prefer a more experienced partner because the chances they are better at sex than, say, my ex-wife who only had 2 partners......are pretty good.
I'm too old to have boring sex.
The only reason to be concerned about how many partners they've had is A) disease and B) you're worried about your ability being compared to many, many others.
If B), you have some things to work on in your head.
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