First of all let’s not hide behind straw man excuses of religion unless I see you specifically being religious. Theoretical theistic people can speak for themselves or they’re irrelevant here. Also, this post is meant to exclude the overtly religious anyway, to skip the nonsense nonsecular people will hide behind.

The cold hard reality for a lot of the lonely men who persist about the promiscuity of women on this subreddit are doing so out of a place of insecurity and ahem not measuring up or being personally satisfied with their partner. Does that feel bad and should your satisfaction matter? I guess you’d have to be able to pull a partner first in order to find that out. And herein lies the rub.

Women lie about things like N count(and can’t be trusted!) because men place a value on something that has no business being valued to begin with. “A key that can open many locks is a great key and a lock that can open many keys” is a really piss poor analogy for human sexual physiology and what plenty of men will fall back on as a way of justifying this garbage standard.

You cannot expect a woman to be proficient in pleasing a man without having any experience or exploration on her own. Singularly wanting to be the only and therefore best partner she has had, is lazy at best, and exploitative at worst. What if you’re awful or uninspired in bed but she’s never had someone give her an orgasm before? She should lose out forever because she met and married you as a virgin? Yeah, nice sounding life for her right?

For those who don’t want to be measured in the rat race of human sexuality against her other partners? I guess wait for sex robots who you can legally purchase and control permanently instead of relying on the messiness and imperfection that is human interaction. It’s like some men have never considered the notion that women aren’t made for their own amusement and sexual whimsy. Oblivious to the reality that women who happen to be born with vaginas aren’t beholden to the opinions of the most sexually narrow men. The gaul of some here who post and talk about it being okay to value ideals when the primary reason they cling to them reeks of desperation and insecurity.

Listen. Men who don’t want an STI? Get her tested when you start dating. Boom. Just like a virgin but now she knows how to please you. You think her vagina is broken after too many men have been inside it? You’re psyching yourself out unnecessarily on ideals we’ve been safe to abandon since the rise of modern medicine.

People with these mindsets need to either grow up or accept their life will be lonely, and for good reason. Imagine being old enough to have a career in finance and other important arenas of adult life, but breaking down psychologically over the chasteness of women. Holy moly the comedy writes itself.

Edit: For those insinuating I be promiscuous if it makes me happy, fear not. I have and will do what I want. For others who thought I was a woman for the tone of my post, I have troubling news. I can appreciate the comments offering a perspective of low count men/women finding commonality of values. The tone of my post is speaking to a subset of unsuccessful men who make an explicit effort to police the actions of women when it’s really a mask for their own inadequacy.