Given that women are now about 2/3 of degree holders, and are likely to be equal to or even surpass men socio-economically on this trajectory, what is a mans actual value in a relationship? We already know that on average, women generally have betting dating prospects than men. We know that women have deeper social connections that men generally don’t have. I’d say men are either socialized to be less emotionally aware or are just naturally less emotionally in tuned.
If men get sex, which they obviously like a lot, and social connection which lets be honest most men are more deprived of, what value can a man actually bring to the table? The physical superiority is obsolete as mental labor is more important than physical labor, and being jacked is not actually going to help a man protect you from any threat in the modern world.
I think that this is the fundamental reason why there are so many incels, and why there are so many women with an underlying contempt for men (I.e. men are trash, etc.) I think until we answer this question, more and more men will be left out of the dating market and women will be left with worse and worse remaining options.
EDIT: I should clarify the question
What value does a man bring to a modern relationship that a woman cannot find/ does not want to find outside of a romantic relationship?
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