What are opinions you hold that would get you shamed or lambasted by The Red Pill or Blue Pill or FDS?

Superfluous_Toast · 2022-01-10T04:58:09+00:00

People who can't find someone who meets their requirements or can't meet the requirements of the ones they want should put relationships aside and focus on enjoying their single life to its fullest extent.

Enjoy buying whatever you want with your money, cleaning when you feel like, and doing whatever the hell you please on your days off. Build a life on your personal desires and tell anyone who gives you flac to go to hell.

There's so much more to life than the script handed down by the boomers.

CimZim · 2022-01-10T00:30:56+00:00

I don't think that all men are sexist, and many of them are kind and empathetic human beings who have never considered women inferior in their entire life.

Playful_Art_5364 · 2022-01-10T03:14:02+00:00

Women deep down idealize men to much. Even the femanzi ones are like kids who dearly loved their dad/older brother but found out he wasn’t who they thought hero they thought he was and now are bitter about it. Secretly wanting to be proven wrong.

Very very few actually dislike men.

We either get treated like Saints or devils and nothing in the middle.

When they like us they like us to much. When they dislike us they dislike us to another level.

JacobMoogberg69 · 2022-01-10T10:13:19+00:00

I love butt stuff, which apparently a lot of TRP dudes are disgusted by, I don't mind high n count women because I usually get bored with vanilla chicks who just don't have the experience or desire to be better in bed. I also do this really revolutionary and controversial thing, which is that I am totally being myself around women and don't pretend to be a stoic, emotionless robot just to get laid and women seem to love me this way much more than if I try to put on a mask or a tough guy persona.

Slitelohel · 2022-01-10T00:32:16+00:00

FDS women are idiots who have just made horrible choices in the past and horseshoed to unreasonable expectations that no sane man no matter how good would try to fulfill.

TRP is jaded guys who cannot get over the current dating issues and don't care anymore.

31 y/o male, married if it matters. I'm largely red pilled but it's just sad at this point. Everyone's expectations have moved so opposite.

Intrepid_Can8963 · 2022-01-10T00:25:39+00:00

I don’t think biology is the ultimate tell all 💀

backcourtjester · 2022-01-10T00:28:25+00:00

I believe that a hot dog is best served in a twinkie instead of a bun

NarniaFox · 2022-01-10T06:05:15+00:00

Not all men are penis-thinking pigs. Quite a lot of them are great human beings, some of which are tender, gentle and caring.
Not all women are gold diggers or high n-count.
No, men don't always pay for sex.
Paying for yourself on a date or paying in turns should be normalized.
Women should approach more (and be smart about it).
Waiting to have sex is totally okay .
We should do some mandatory DNA testing with creating a data base that can be used for various purposes including finding a real father, criminals or compatible stem donors etc.
Marriage is worth it for people who are interested in it.

januaryphilosopher · 2022-01-10T11:57:18+00:00

I'm anti-porn and think that promiscuity and casual sex generally does more harm than good.

nikki1810 · 2022-01-11T00:47:18+00:00

I think its hypocritical to want a traditional women, and then complain about how traditional beliefs make dating harder for men. Traditional women attract traditional men, if thats too much for you change your standards, because you're not gonna change theirs.

SupremeDreams99 · 2022-01-10T02:24:11+00:00

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LittyKitsune · 2022-01-10T00:57:48+00:00

Constantly falling for girls who chase after assholes says just as much about the dude as the girl who chases assholes

Longshot_56 · 2022-01-10T01:50:49+00:00

RP men (or rather men here who identify as RP but are actually blackpilled) have warped views of how sexually successful men actually think and behave in the real world.

A lot of this stems from jealousy and little life experience.

tiposk · 2022-01-10T03:51:52+00:00

RP:

You can't cry divorce-rape or complain about gold-diggers if all you care about in a long-term partner is beauty, youth and low n-count.
The lock and the key analogy is just an excuse to expect higher standards from women than you expect from yourself.

FDS:

You can't expect to be treated like an equal and bitch about patriarchy if you feel entitled to a man's wallet.
You're not advocating for women's interests, you're advocating for traditional morality and shaming every woman that doesn't adhere to it.

thetruthishere_ · 2022-01-10T01:47:58+00:00

Being an escort. I dont see anything wrong with two consenting adults having an arrangement but so many do.

Vtridolla · 2022-01-10T00:24:21+00:00

I respect women and treat them like a person.

Bendetto4 · 2022-01-10T03:54:57+00:00

Red pill, blue pill, green pill, orange pill.

If you're a nice person people will love and appreciate you regardless of how you look or how much of an alpha you are.

TheElusivePeacock · 2022-01-10T16:29:50+00:00

TRP should hate everything about me and I simply don’t care. I’m here to laugh at them and whatever other pill that has men crying about alpha beta sigma delta airlines bullshit they spew. And constant whining about sex. I can’t imagine how shitty in bed a man who thinks he’s entitled to sex is.

FDS is nothing more than femcels who would turn into a pick me the moment a guy actually pays attention to them. I’ve been invited to that nutjob sub plenty of times because I just DGAF that ugly men can’t get laid, but they don’t realize I don’t agree with their bullshit either. I’ve met FDS minded women plenty of times, seen them build large online platforms, only for it always to come out they are nothing like the talking points they spew, and are often a danger to other women. I’ve FDSers be disgusting and rude AF to other women on Reddit, and it just confirms to me they’re no more than undercover pick mes who secretly don’t like other women, especially women who can get the life THEY want from men. They’re no better than nice guys and bitter ugly men who want to be treated like “Chad” but don’t have the looks, or charm, or charisma or even a bare minimum personality. They want to be treated like “Stacy” and see men throwing money at very attractive women, but don’t look like her. They have odd views on sex and I wonder if they enjoy it at all. I’ve been called a pick me for having sex with men. As a hetero woman, who should I be fucking? I’ve been told I need to cut off every man in my life, including my 8 brothers and nephew because they all could be rapists eventually. I’ve seen an FDSer tell a woman it’s her fault if she gets raped because she has sexy photos online. Women who can’t get a relationship or a fucking date that’s not a cheap walk in the park can’t tell you how to do just that. Same with all these whiny men on podcasts and shit.

If red pillers and nice guys dated FDSers they could all actually get a date. But I guess they’re both too unattractive for each other.

Ok_Room1213 · 2022-01-10T02:19:31+00:00

As a red pill guy my experience is that the ease of getting a woman in bed isn't that correlated to how hot they are. Most women are kind of the same and there have been 8/10s I've slept with that were super slutty and 4/10s I'd have no chance with. Any time a Red Pill loser says something like "ya I could go out and get a 4/10 chick in bed no problem, but I'm not gonna stoop to that" - no you couldn't. Shut up. If you're attractive and smooth enough to pull a 4/10 easily you'd also be banging 7/10s regularly as well.

Other thing is mate guarding. Men you gotta mate guard. Being a passive bitch boy when another man approaches your wife or gf isn't "stoic" or "cool". It's pathetic. It's shitty that your woman or some douche puts you in that position but you need to let guys know what time it is or no one including your girl will respect you.

baresquad · 2022-01-10T01:10:28+00:00

RP: women that do whatever the fuck they want are attractive. Modesty isn’t attractive. The wall doesn’t exist. Feminism is fine.

FDS: casual dating is preferable to a strictly serious approach to relationships. Women that have sex outside of promise of commitment are pick me’s. Sex positivity is ok

BP: I’ve always been under the impression that blue pill is a satirical take on red pill?

pinkakatsuki · 2022-01-10T01:42:39+00:00

Women should stop being easy

FrostieTheSnowman · 2022-01-10T02:00:12+00:00

I don't really subscribe to any of the pills to a radical extent, but I think I've got a very centrist perspective that most people in the communities would hate for various reasons.

Socially, I'm an Egalitarian. I think Feminism lost the plot, and ironically is necessarily gendered, so I think it's time to stop with that shit. In the eyes of the law, neither sex, gender, orientation, race, nor creed should have any bearing on people's rights or treatment.

In my personal life, I'm a flexible traditionalist. By this, I mean that the "traditional relationship" is the most appealing to me: a relationship in which I provide the necessities of life for my family, while my wife does a bit more of the childcare/homemaking. But, that's not the only type of relationship I will accept! You have to be realistic. A lifestyle that also really appeals to me is the 50/50 lifestyle. We both cook, we both clean, we both work, and we both take care of the kids (if we have them) equally. That sounds like a damn good partnership, and I could see myself living a very happy life.

But there's one catch. I want to be the head of the house. When a decision has to be made for the family there should always be a discussion, but I want my word to be final. I grew up with damn near no control over my life, so a partner would REALLY have to prove herself before I would trust her with that power. It's nothing against women, if I was gay I would feel the same way. I just know that I'm a smart guy, and I am wholly unwilling to go down in flames for someone else's stupid decisions.

I'm a bit too open-minded for the extreme pillers, I think lol

lonely_mixtape · 2022-01-10T02:04:25+00:00

Just because a woman is currently dating a tall, traditionally attractive man, doesn't mean she's shallow or wouldn't be interested in other kinds of men.

stats135 · 2022-01-10T01:56:36+00:00

I don't "do it for myself."

Labour is something done for compensation. In other words, the only reason I do anything is so that I can gain something in return. Just as I learn marketable skills and enter the labour market for money, I learn game and enter the sexual marketplace for sex. Give me the money and sex, and I'll gladly skip out on self-improvement and just spend the rest of my life indulging in material comfort and sex.

Over_Noise3530 · 2022-01-10T02:34:32+00:00

I like some of the advice on fds, like how to avoid abusers. I also enjoy their little known true crime stories like the way they pointed out the racist verbally abusive doctor. But I have casual sex so I'm banned from there

Initial_Chemical7121 · 2022-01-10T00:56:22+00:00

I feel like most women would be happier and better off being housewives but society makes them think they have to be a #girlboss. Also masculinity and femininity are beautiful things when they work together and compliment each other.

ahandtoyourdarknessx · 2022-01-10T00:52:38+00:00

I support feminism, I think women have gotten the shit end of the stick for most of humanity and continue to do so.

My feeling about women are entirely different than my feelings about them sexually. I feel like the only way I can attract them is to be manipulative and I don’t feel guilty about it

mackenzie013_02 · 2022-01-10T00:30:52+00:00

I like to treat my man, I don’t want him to constantly pay for me, I like to experiment in bed, I love wearing lingerie and shave (I like to feel sexy) — according to FDS I’m a pick-me. 🤷🏻‍♀️

decoy88 · 2022-01-10T03:20:28+00:00

Stop believing the world is like whatever the social media algorithms throw in your face - they’re serving you content based on your habits!

pubgmisc · 2022-01-10T01:13:49+00:00

RP is fundamental laws of nature, BP is plugged into Disney lies, FDS is mostly delusional. I agree with FDS about just because a man looks at another women passing by doesn’t mean he likes her or whatever, but completely disagree that men are ‘intimidated’ by her career lol

Pastelitomaracucho · 2022-01-10T09:38:57+00:00

Awalt doesn't exist and have incurable oneitis with my partner of 6 years which thinkd I am the best man she could have found so I'm her hypergamous endgame while being a 5'7 brown manlet.

mmmaja_s · 2022-01-10T10:24:26+00:00

RP: 80:20 rule only applies to online dating and is bs in real life (note that my POV is from a place where casual sex is not as popular as in the US). Plus, shame on those who are rude and bitter in the comments!

FDS: you shouldn't talk about all men in such a horrible way and you should be kind and respect your partner.

BP: well I know this opinion is not popular but here goes. You're treated badly because you allow it. If we all stopped tolerating abuse, all abusers would die alone and miserable. (This goes for tolerating abuse from partners, bosses, parents, anyone; it doesn't apply to child abuse, rape, or when you literally have no control over the situation).

xcheshirecatxx · 2022-01-10T07:34:14+00:00

I'm a woman who makes more money than my fiance, I own a car he doesn't. He has mental issues

But he's higher value with the person he is than a guy who would support me financially

Most women overvalue themselves

It's dangerous to marry women today and that's the biggest reasons of women not getting a ring

Women can ask to marry too

....

Men have less rights than women except middle East Feminists live off being victims

.... Men need to learn to control their sexual urges, instead of trying to fuck more women

That gives power to women. They trap you with a baby and you're fucked

Negging insults the man as much as the woman

Stop chasing after the women for their exterior. Their interior is dangerous

You are better with a women with more sexual partners who respect you as a human being than a virgin who thinks her vagina is worth more than you

Complete-Temporary-6 · 2022-01-10T02:49:30+00:00

Women do not care about men as people.

Kaisha001 · 2022-01-10T00:32:48+00:00

I am anti-feminism.

Not anti-female, or woman, or anything, just anti-feminism. That's goes over as well as you can imagine...

FancyCocktailOlive · 2022-01-10T04:06:41+00:00

I got pregnant intentionally before leaving my ex because I didn’t want to be with him as he was an asshole and I didn’t want to pay for a sperm donor. I also didn’t want to parent with a man or have a relationship with a man again. He has no idea and he’s better off for it. So are we. I’m proof women do this to hot, smart men. I’m entitled to sperm, shouldn’t have to pay for it.

SylvestorTalone · 2022-01-10T01:46:19+00:00

God is real, so objective moral standards are real. In light of that, a good amount of Red Pill advice is just objectively evil, regardless of whether it works or not, and regardless of what the other side is doing.

LiaraLynx · 2022-01-10T00:54:44+00:00

I think women belong in the kitchen.

flapperfemmefatale · 2022-01-10T01:01:56+00:00

NAMALT and NAWALT

goatismycopilot · 2022-01-10T02:13:27+00:00

I know some fairly shitty people with partners so I think people end up in a " happy relationship" or " successful" however one defines it is a matter of luck and timing rather than some formula or self improvement program. I think that would make me unpopular in TRP/BP/FDS.

ErrorMacrotheII · 2022-01-10T10:38:07+00:00

If you cant find an SO its becouse you are a shit person. I'm saying this while I myself struggle with dating. But its not "da eeeeveeeel whemens" fault. Just mine. End of the story.

GhostofCamus · 2022-01-10T11:07:43+00:00

I think sex workers, and johns are sad, empty people, and their practices damage the mental health of everyone involved. Even if it wasn't so unhealthy, the commodification of flesh is repellent on an instinctive level, like, fucking ew. This view hasn't ingratiated me with anyone except fds posters who already hate me for having a "harem".

KickAss2021 · 2022-01-10T05:31:18+00:00

Democrats that are 48% never married, and have the highest divorce rate in the world, should not give any dating advice at all.

Feisty-Saturn · 2022-01-10T02:06:05+00:00

I dont think men need to be these unemotional beings. Men have feelings just like women. I also have no problem splitting the bill.

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nick1812216 · 2022-01-10T01:56:46+00:00

“You’re not so very different. 3 sides to the same coin.”

Decent_Foundation_62 · 2022-01-10T04:28:10+00:00

That the truth is found in evolutionary psychology and red pill, blue pill and FDS are all 'wrong' in their own ways.

ameminator · 2022-01-10T07:46:56+00:00

Being happily married with children can be the most fulfilling thing in the world - if you can achieve it.

Up-under-it · 2022-01-10T08:24:04+00:00

Pola_Lita · 2022-01-10T09:38:39+00:00

Women and sex for its own sake. Neither RP, RPW or FDS seem to think it should be more than a bartering chip. It seems funny to me.

DP8414 · 2022-01-10T10:59:08+00:00

Blue Pill: I’m against the idea that “True Love” can possibly form the foundation of marriage or a solid relationship. True Love is a myth and a lie.

Red Pill: I’m against most PUA tactics, as they provide cheap cover for an inherent lack of worth that women see right through. Also against the idea that “confidence” and “assertiveness” can make an otherwise unattractive man appealing.

FDS: I hate Radical Feminism and consider it worse then Liberal Feminism. Both are awful, but RadFems hate men in a way that LibFems don’t.

(Yes, I’m aware that defining myself by what I’m against makes me a Reactionary. The truth is, I like what the Western world had became by the year 1900, and I want to conserve what was built. Modernists are destroyers, not builders. The world doesn’t belong to them).

ZoeLevinxoxo · 2022-01-10T11:07:53+00:00

Marriages are the best way to create a prosperous society.

Feminism isnt the reason divorce rates are high, the fall of religion is.

Glittering_Ad_1415 · 2022-01-10T11:41:01+00:00

Sex work isn’t legitimate work any woman should be proud of. Men with low n counts looking for women with low n counts is fair. Really short women should date short men and not some guy who could stomp on them.

Notanothrshitthrow · 2022-01-10T13:10:30+00:00

I'd probably be classed as "Bluepill" and I believe that ignoring biological drivers behind sexual attraction is ridiculously naïve. Yes, there's a lot of room for environmental influence and pure personal taste, but to ignore biological signifiers of attractiveness (e.g. height in men, hip to waist ratio in women) and pretend that it doesn't exist is a fool's errand.

I also believe that women feed into toxic masculinity just as much as men through sexual gratification.

Karmanger · 2022-01-10T13:12:20+00:00

You are more likely to encounter an empathetic man than an empathetic woman.

SocietalEngineering · 2022-01-10T13:46:38+00:00

Much of the mystery of gender dynamics is solved when mental illness is understood and taken into account.

Different genders are predisposed to different mental illnesses. That’s pretty much the entire field that we are discussing here. Perfectly mentally healthy people are actually very similar to each other, regardless of gender. The great differences we see in the genders is mostly due to looking at people with various degrees of mental illness, and the fact that mental illness manifests itself differently in each gender.

The red pill hates this fact, because it invalidates AWALT. Even mentioning mental health, mental illness or abnormal psychology will get you banned from the sub. This is a pathological blind spot in the Red Pill community.

Taipanshimshon · 2022-01-10T14:56:02+00:00

Most young dumb redpillers would roast me for still wanting to have a family.

gmoney92_ · 2022-01-10T15:42:25+00:00

I don't think there is anything wrong with casual sex. I also think that women who only work part time or want to be SAHM are not economically reasonable partners given the times, and that men that want women that are subservient in that way and just stay home have inferiority complexes. At the same time, no matter how progressive a woman is, I feel like women have a predisposition to be more materialistic and seeking of a man who makes more money and has nicer things than her, regardless of how much she's making. I guess I'm truly purple pilled in the sense that I seek a progressive woman in dating but am not convinced that hypergamy isn't real.

sarkington · 2022-01-10T17:46:29+00:00

Children are a large part of the gender wage gap. Exactly how much, I couldn’t say

The female desire for children/relationships is almost as damaging as the male desire for sex, and is aided/abetted by society collectively. But again, how much of that is inborn vs artificial, I couldn’t say

AbbreviationsHot1200 · 2022-01-10T21:32:55+00:00

"Men are better than women"

SyllabubQuiet2482 · 2022-01-11T07:17:22+00:00

That looks matter.

Ohmaygahh · 2022-01-11T15:49:44+00:00

That women just want to be listened to silently. They just want to be heard, which really means listening and paraphrasing back what they say.

We men mistake challenging or debating what women say as connecting and trying to reach a deeper truth or sharpening our debate skills as a form of bonding. All that does is frustrate women and turn them off. God forbid you share this opinion out loud because it would insult most women's sensibilities, and they scrutinize everything you say/parrot back to them with a quiet burning hatred afterward.

FatStoner2FitSober · 2022-01-12T03:00:35+00:00

They’re all miserable people and are using an online platform to spread their misery.

Title	What are opinions you hold that would get you shamed or lambasted by The Red Pill or Blue Pill or FDS?
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