Women, what do you think are the advantages and disadvantages of men? Would it be easier if you were a man?

AngeCruelle · 2024-09-12T23:41:43+00:00

Periods. It would be great not to have them. I very reluctantly started birth control after about a decade of trying to treat extremely painful/debilitating ones with ibuprofen.

I think that is the definitive way in which I believe my life would be easier if I were a man. Everything else is debatable, at least for me.

Sillysheila · 2024-09-12T22:41:48+00:00

Advantages: Stronger, less likely to be sex assaulted or raped, no health issues with childbirth/pregnancy, no menopause changes, safer in some third world countries or communities that are more traditionalist.

Disadvantages: Disposability (ie only a success object), dismissal of mental health issues, increased biological likelihood of chronic illness (heart disease, diabetes, cancer), much higher rates of being victimised via gang violence and physical assault, murder.

When I look at these, I see pretty equal risks and harms. What I think when I think of what men and women have to go through is that, if I changed to another gender, then I wouldn’t be rid of problems, I would just have a different set of problems.

I guess that it’s up to individual interpretation but as someone who isn’t living in a traditionalist or underdeveloped society, I think I have a lot of advantages compared to someone who was born that way.

There are some things I’m not jazzed about, like I would much rather just have sex one night than have to give birth lol. But there are some things I think I would find really depressing to be honest, and are the things that tip me on the scale to not wanting to be born male. When men and women are socialised, typically people are much gentler and nicer when they socialise girls and women, but boys are not treated that way. And I’ll be honest it is really nice to be treated as if people really care about me. I just can’t imagine waking up and being more invisible, not nearly as cared for and be expected to sacrifice myself more. I can’t imagine what it would be like if I woke up and no one cared about my mental health or thought I should shove everything inside.

blackdaalia · 2024-09-13T00:38:07+00:00

Boys and girls have different difficulties, so it's hard to assess if it would have been easier.

I probably wouldn't have been raped, but i would have been bullied for liking ballet and opera. I would have been taken seriously when i said i liked math and probably wouldn't have given up on studying, but I would have probably attempted suicide for being bisexual (I know myself and I know how male bisexuals would/are treated by my close family). I think being male would have been a nightmare, because it was a nightmare being female. In the end, my family sucked donkey ass, and that wouldn't have changed.

Male or female, having a decent support system is what matters the most imo.

Sonia314 · 2024-09-13T03:31:51+00:00

I think men I interact with are on average a lot cooler than women. The communities I seek out are very disproportionately male. My current field is 90% male, and my current main social group is 85% male. The draw for me is the focus on being quantitative and less distracted by emotions. Whenever I find myself in female dominated spaces, I often remember why I avoid them. The weak emotionally motivated reasoning, often related to feeling like certain oversimplified groups of people (including mine) should identify as victims, is exhausting, and I often feel bullied for disagreeing. There are many male dominated communities that do not fit the pattern I described, and I actually feel that the incel community is one of them, but on average it seems to hold true.

Personally I feel very lucky to be female. The primary advantage is in dating in the male dominated communities I feel I belong in. There are also advantages like the halo effect studies observe and studies that find that men are more discriminated against in hiring than women are on average in rich countries (which seems to be related to revenge for the opposite being true until about a decade ago, which is more of the emotional reasoning that I dislike).

The general benefits of being female are also true on a personal level. Both me and my brother had similar horrific challenges growing up, but I expressed the trauma by doing things like crying and expressing insecurity, whereas he expressed his with (non-physical) aggression. People responded by helping me but avoiding helping him. He eventually killed himself, but I eventually overcame the trauma enough to have a very good life. This is a common pattern of how men and women express trauma differently on average, and I wonder how much more like my brother’s my life mine would have turned out if I had been born male. Some people see males being more aggressive and criminal on average as reasons to resent them, but I see it as a reason to feel sympathy for unlucky biology that they often don’t have much control over (since twin studies have found that life outcomes are approximately half genetic).

egalitarian-flan · 2024-09-12T22:39:03+00:00

I think that neither men nor women have life on easy mode, or on nightmare mode.

Each sex has issues and troubles that affect them more than the other side, which are typically the opposite side of the social coin. I could list various advantages that men generally have, as well as disadvantages they generally have, but they'd be pretty equal to what women go through.

That being said, I know my individual life would have been better if I'd been born male.

starksoph · 2024-09-12T22:27:31+00:00

I could pee standing up

Nellylocheadbean · 2024-09-12T23:30:26+00:00

I think the advantages are definitely being stronger on average, no periods, no pregnancy, being able to pee anywhere, you can make up for your looks in the dating world with money, charm and resources.

The disadvantages are most ppl don’t take men’s mental health seriously.

I don’t think I would have it easier per se but I think it would be more fun to be a man.

GridReXX · 2024-09-12T23:04:12+00:00

I would like to experience sex and lust as a man.

ThatLilAvocado · 2024-09-12T23:19:16+00:00

I imagine it might feel pretty affirming to look at literature and see that most celebrated authors are men. The greatest inventors. The greatest leaders. Upon learning how women were held back from education and politics, I would notice the injustice, but this would not taint my view of these former leaders.

I would enjoy not having to calculate how much harassment my outfit is likely to get me (I see men bending down without thinking twice and I envy that).

Unless I had one of those crippling porn-induced ED, I would enjoy knowing that I'm very likely to cum if I go to bed with any woman I'm attracted to, and I would be much more interested in casual sex. I would also feel much more relaxed during sex, not fearing sudden onset of violence. I would probably not understand why women are so reserved around sex and attribute it to some sort of daintiness.

I image I would be somewhat fearful of other men and struggle a bit to put in the correct performance that grants me respect among other men. Specially in intersectional dynamics, I wonder how I would feel among black men, asian men, gay men, etc.

If I happened to be a man with gender consciousness, I guess I would be pretty bummed out finding out how many countries were founded over genocide of the male population and systemic rape of women. I would feel aversion over the history of marriage as an institution and how many men have had sex with newly pubescent women for most of history. I would also struggle with my own most violent and objectificating fantasies and the existence of so many violent men. I would wonder what's the difference between me and them.

attendquoi · 2024-09-12T22:23:21+00:00

I mostly can't get over how men seem to think that advantages in dating or sex matter more than advantages in personal safety, career, finances, medical care, etc. I'd happily never have sex again in exchange for those.

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2024-09-12T22:51:27+00:00

Well, I'm above average height for a woman, so if I'd probably be above average height for a dude, it would be pretty cool to be even taller. I wouldn't have a period, that would be pretty cool. I'd be able to pee standing up, also cool. I'd be way stronger than I am now, that would be awesome. My pants would finally have functional pockets.

I'd have more people perceive me as threatening, which is an unpleasant feeling. I imagine my newly acquired bro friends would probably not take my mental health concerns very seriously or would call me a pussy for going to therapy. Some women would judge me for that as well. It would be frowned upon if I wore dresses, so that sucks.

flipsidetroll · 2024-09-12T23:01:40+00:00

I think this is a stupid comparison. I’m not a man. I don’t know how to think like a man. I can never have male experiences. I can empathise with men, try to understand them, listen to them, but since I will never have their experiences, I can never say I have an advantage or they do. And they can never say the same about women.

This just seems like a victim Olympics question. What good is that? How does arguing over who has it harder or easier, actually solve the problems. And even women have different experiences to other women and men have different experiences to other men. It’s a pointless question. A bit rage bait-like.

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TheCounsellingGamer · 2024-09-13T21:11:50+00:00

The one thing that springs to mind is health related. Even in this modern age women's physical pain is still dismissed. Women's health is only just starting to be taken seriously.

I have endometriosis and I've experienced these problems first hand. Most people don't know what endometriosis is, even though it effects 1 in 10 women. It took me 7 years of going to the doctor before I got a diagnosis. I've been told by a male doctor that endometriosis doesn't hurt. I was offered the exact same treatment my mother was on 30 years ago. Despite this being a debilitating, common condition treatment and diagnostic tools haven't improved.

Also when my step dad had a prostate biopsy he was given sedation and a local anesthetic. When I had cervical biopsies I was given nothing. I was just expected to grit my teeth and bear the pain of having pieces of my body cut away.

kayceeplusplus · 2024-09-13T21:30:11+00:00

I would enjoy sex a lot more.

grasso86 · 2024-09-14T20:39:42+00:00

Yea I'd say my life would be alot easier if it didn't feel like I was being physically punished every single month for years on end. It really gets to you mentally after a while. Sounds dramatic but think of what it would be like to bleed out of your ass or dick every month along with painful cramps, exhaustion, nausea, body aches, huge drop in stamina. Its like a monthly set back you are sentenced to for a huge chunk of your life. At first you might be stoic about it and just endure it but eventually after years you get frustrated and sad about it.

Major_Decision_7107 · 2024-09-12T22:48:42+00:00

Get to experience bjs

HighestTierMaslow · 2024-09-12T22:54:02+00:00

Advantages i would like: doctors take me more seriously. I just work but have a wife and kid to boost my status. Meanwhile my wife works and does nearly everything else. I dont have to nag her for this setup either. Less judged for my looks. It's easier to be at a healthy weight due to more muscle mass. People don't judge me for aging. Once I lock in a relationship I can coast and get more leniency for being selfish. Past mistakes are accepted for "immaturity" reasons. If i get married im much more likely to get a caregiver rather than be divorced if i become seriously ill. Stronger physically. Disadvantages: could be drafted into war and higher random violence (not including rape) from other males. Need to have an average paying job for marriage. The first few months of dating i have to put in a little more work or take risks more than her, for some women anyway. I likely have more superficial male friendships. I used to have other ones (mental health, custody etc) but I don't think it's the case anymore.

YveisGrey · 2024-09-13T13:14:38+00:00

Imo the only advantage is the biology stuff no periods, no child bearing, no menopause other than that I think life as a woman is better.

The disadvantage of being a man is imo having to deal with men. I mean men treat women badly too sometimes but they treat other men worse. I think being a man and having to constantly be in competition with men would be stressful and depressing

One thing I really love about being a woman is the relationships I have with women and this feeling of just looking out for each other. Female friendships are so deep and emotional and close

audiofoxthethird · 2024-09-13T01:04:30+00:00

I think it would be considerably easier to express myself fully as a human being if I were a man. My choices, attitudes, behaviours and even facial expressions wouldn’t be constantly policed. Even emotionally I think men being hell bent on claiming they can’t cry or be “soft” just shows a lack of courage to stop giving af what other men judge about them.

Most_Vermicelli9722 · 2024-09-13T05:47:01+00:00

I hate being a woman and having a female anatomy. My life would definitely be easier if I was a man.

I wish I was a man because men are stronger, are taken more seriously, don’t have periods, their bodies were created to serve them, not a baby. If they want to be a parent they just need to orgasm. I would have to be uncomfortable and in pain for months if not years.

Sex was created for men. They orgasm easily, women are built as an afterthought of nature when it comes to pleasure. Women need to experiment, use toys or fingers, so literally masturbate to feel pleasure. Men can just put it in and cum. So yeah, even sex sucks.

Men have it easier when it comes to sculpting their bodies.

Also, It seems like treating women as second class citizens is a natural thing for humanity. Only in modern times in the west women have equal opportunities. But most of the world that is not as advanced treats women much worse, as if it was the default ways of running a society. This fact destroys my self worth.

Yeah, I hate being a woman. I always hated it. There are no advantages of being me. I envy my husband everyday.

SaBahRub · 2024-09-14T08:52:03+00:00

I would have an easier time as a man because I’m bad at being a woman

Ok_Secret4959 · 2024-09-13T10:39:55+00:00

Let’s consider the following before answering the question.

Who designed and build almost everything in the world? Men.
What things are men better at than women? Lots of things, both physically and cognitive.
What things are women better at than men? Nothing useful that requires active participation.

So if you like to be inferior and depend on your superiors who are willing to help you in turn for you letting them enjoy and even enter your body, or if you enjoy manipulating others with the hotness of your body parts, having a female body is advantageous. If you would rather be independent instead of depending on the grace of others, and maybe even desire to help others a lot, having a male body is advantageous.

My_House_on_Mars · 2024-09-12T22:53:35+00:00

pee standing up

Sometimes I sense that men are taken more seriously at work

I go to theater class and for some reason some guys always get the lead roles. And in impro class there's a guy who always ends up being lawyer, doctor, boss. While us women end up playing cleaning lady, mom, annoying grandma

physical strength (I'd love to be able to move furniture around the house)

Disadvantages: using OLD probably sucks for men.

Title	Women, what do you think are the advantages and disadvantages of men? Would it be easier if you were a man?
Author	Wanderingwombat1902
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Date	September 12, 2024 10:20 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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