Shaming tactics 101! Men who stare!!

EnlightMen · 2013-03-12T19:57:29+00:00

If people staring at you is causing you a scarring trauma...Stay at your home! Don't come out!

DavidByron · 2013-03-12T21:08:16+00:00

I can't tell if its feminism or a parody.

improbus · 2013-03-12T22:05:48+00:00

Why do people insist they have the right to speak for me? I don't apologize for anyone else's behavior, nor am I responsible for it.

matt_512 · 2013-03-12T20:55:40+00:00

Okay ladies, your turn:

I'm sorry for women who gossip.
I'm sorry for women who are overly emotional to the point of harming others.
I'm sorry for the women who lead men on.
I'm sorry for the women who lie.
I'm sorry for women who are violent towards men.
I'm sorry for that lady who was rude to matt_512 last week.

Oh, so none of THAT is your fault?

paintcan_opener · 2013-03-12T20:05:07+00:00

Is this an instance of Poe's Law? This feels like Poe's law.

elucubra · 2013-03-12T22:57:54+00:00

You don't have my permission to apologize in my name.

esantipapa · 2013-03-12T23:15:11+00:00

Really... I cannot be the only guy here who has been meat-gazed and eye-fucked by a woman... and not the subtle glances either... the dead-eyed, train-wreck stare that makes you feel incredibly awkward.

HumanMob · 2013-03-12T21:24:23+00:00

damn, and here i was thinking we had control over our own bodies, oh no wait that's just women.

uberpower · 2013-03-12T21:58:48+00:00

So he's apologizing because emotionally fragile unconfident paranoid women are emotionally fragile, unconfident, and paranoid?

AtheistAgnostic · 2013-03-12T22:06:23+00:00

I WANT TO WEAR WHATEVER I WANT

WHAT? GUYS ARE STARING AT ME FOR SHOWING 90% OF MY SKIN? THEY MUST BE RAPISTS. I AM SCARRED FOR LIFE.

Just a tad ridiculous. You can wear more revealing clothes, no one is stopping you. But if you're attractive, and dressed in skin-tight, or hardly any clothing, guys will stare. It's biological. So honestly, the fuck?

Also, it isn't like WOMEN never stare at/sexualize men, etc...

theskepticalidealist · 2013-03-12T23:39:20+00:00

Thought crimes are now real. you aren't even allowed to think about something unless it's approved by big feminism.

StandsInRefuse · 2013-03-12T21:06:04+00:00

And that's why I rarely use Facebook.

McFeely_Smackup · 2013-03-12T23:13:02+00:00

I'd just like to point out a basic tenet of physics.

When you "look at" something/someone, nothing is leaving your body and invading that person/thing...light is bouncing off them and hitting your retina.

So rather than say "sorry for staring at you", maybe we should be saying "stop bouncing your photons at me".

Geno777 · 2013-03-13T01:20:37+00:00

I apologize for nothing. Fuck you.

Geno777 · 2013-03-12T23:45:02+00:00

As soon as I hear a woman say:

"I apologize for all the women who stare. Who strip men of their money with their eyes. For women who justify their actions by accusing the man's gullibility. I apologize for all the greedy eyes for which there are no laws against. I apologize for the empty bank accounts my gender has caused you"

As soon as I hear that, I will give a fuck. If a bitch got her ass hanging out, I'm gonna look. The End.

unexpecteditem · 2013-03-12T22:10:07+00:00

I apologize for being disposed to want to fuck women.

2013-03-12T21:33:25+00:00

I am sorry you skin is so delicate. I am sorry you never bothered to grow up. Most of all I am not sorry to say, fuck off.

Lightfiend · 2013-03-13T00:03:29+00:00

For those interested in the origin of this concept: "male gaze" in feminist theory.

It's a Wikipedia summary, and yes I do find the idea quite absurd. The truth is that both men and women can have a "sexual gaze" if they are eye-ing something they find attractive.

genno334 · 2013-03-13T00:05:57+00:00

Magic Mike anyone?

splitkid1950 · 2013-03-13T00:09:18+00:00

these guys who are like this are the biggest perverts of all... they think they will attract females by acting like a feminist

zialover10 · 2013-03-13T00:57:53+00:00

Modest woman here - I do not accept that guy's apology on all of your behalf because it is ridiculous. Certain clothing attracts certain people- it's not a matter of you guys oppressing us... Don't get me started! Just came here to tell you guys that I think this is absurd, too, and I would never blame a guy for looking at parts that I've highlighted with my clothing.

EndlessNexus · 2013-03-12T22:22:24+00:00

I thought this was a joke at first, and a funny one at that. I never understood how a lady can wear skin tight and/or very revealing clothing (short shorts, miniskirts, low cut shirts with crazy cleavage) and then have the audacity to act surprised or even disturbed when you notice guys looking. Now if a guy is being creepy, like he wont stop looking or he's making gestures or following you around, yeah that's weird, but most guys don't do that crap.

McFeely_Smackup · 2013-03-12T23:09:49+00:00

Who is hiding behind those hands? Poe, is that you?

Schaftschwager · 2013-03-13T00:11:53+00:00

I was just thinking about this this morning on my own.

Women who dress with their skin exposed in any fashion choose to do so. They know what they are doing when they choose the clothing they are choosing. If they choose to show skin, they are expecting attention. When you go out in public, it's difficult, if not impossible, to completely control the attention you get.

Shaming people who look at other people that dress in a certain way to ATTRACT that attention is just ridiculous.

Havikx · 2013-03-13T02:24:05+00:00

Shame is this guy apologizing for doing something that is natural. Something he has done before. Shame on him for apologizing on sudo behalf of a gender.

He is probably one of those guys who "..don't masturbate.."

thereverendwho · 2013-03-13T05:26:31+00:00

O.o I'm not sorry. I refuse to be sorry for the way nature designed me. I am sexually attracted to females, it's that simple. There's nothing wrong with that. If females choose to wear something extremely skimpy or are extremely attractive to my eye I may catch myself looking. I'll try to be a gentleman and turn my head. However, I refuse to apologize for the moment that a woman catches my eye and I am attracted to her. I was designed this way, and I'm proud of my sexuality.

MaK_Ultra · 2013-03-12T22:26:25+00:00

What pisses me off are guys that throw a hissy fit when a handsome dude such as myself undresses them with my eyes.

Kikolin · 2013-03-12T22:28:37+00:00

You know what's really sad about this?? There is a sizable chance it was a (emasculated) man that wrote this.

thejam15 · 2013-03-13T00:23:33+00:00

Where is this bitch. Only I apologize for myself.

bamiam · 2013-03-13T02:54:43+00:00

this is satire, right?

AustNerevar · 2013-03-13T06:36:38+00:00

Demonizing men for having human desires is the stupidest thing imaginable. Women have sexual desires just as men do. Women stare and ogle men just as much as men do the same to women. And they are no more perverts or sexists for doing so than men are.

We're all fucking human. Sex is a human experience. I don't understand why anyone acts as though healthy sexual urges are a disgusting thing.

Bookworm12k · 2013-03-13T06:45:56+00:00

I apologize for MY gender for demonizing men, accusing them of being perverts for natural attraction, and blame men for reacting to the clothes they chose to wear. I'll wear a baggy hoody when I want to be left alone, and shine my cleavage proudly and wear skinny jeans when I want to be looked at. I don't know how women who wear yoga pants could want anything less than to be stared at. I know I can't help myself ;)

Danny_Plainview · 2013-03-13T09:46:18+00:00

Fuck everything about this. It's basically an apology to ignorant feminists for having male instincts. It's demonizing men to please bigoted delusional supporters of feminism.

HoundDogs · 2013-03-13T10:33:12+00:00

I'm not sorry. They don't get to control my thoughts.

PowerWisdomCourage · 2013-03-13T12:09:58+00:00

Next up: men breathing are stealing air from women. Thus, oppressing them.

unexpecteditem · 2013-03-12T22:15:41+00:00

It's quite simple really. Men are only going to stop looking at women when women stop looking so incredibly good. Men don't have to look, but women don't have to spend so much time with clothes, make-up, hair and so forth.

OuiCrudites · 2013-03-12T23:51:25+00:00

It's obvious that Feminists perceive women to be utterly incapable of dealing with the outside world.

It's about damn time they put their money where their mouth is, and went ahead and instituted Islamic-style purity laws for women. Bring on the burqa's. Don't let women out of the house except when accompanied by a male relative.

Come on, feminists, you know this is what you want. Just pull on the big girl pants and say it.

Pantsyr · 2013-03-13T00:18:00+00:00

I also wouldn't apologise in the slightest. If you dress with acres of skin exposed or in skin tight saran wrap - I will look, if you have a good figure - I will look. I am by nature a visually orientated entity, so visual cues are very core to the way I function. So I'll not apologise for something I cannot alter. That said - staring is rude regardless of gender so an appreciative glance and maybe a slight smile is pretty much all I do anyway.

gorageyourself · 2013-03-13T00:28:45+00:00

I have "stripped a woman naked" with my eyes. Ever guy does it, we are attracted to hot girls and imagine them naked. Telling people to suppress their biological tendency is stupid, especially when it harms no one.

Invalid_Target · 2013-03-13T00:30:01+00:00

his rings look like handcuffs in a way.

2013-03-13T02:06:19+00:00

I will look... and I will enjoy looking. There is absolutely nothing wrong with window shopping!

CockTrumpet · 2013-03-13T02:38:15+00:00

This is more suitable for /r/cringe.

2013-03-13T04:17:59+00:00

I apologize for all the men who are mindless white knights who go out of their way to paint their own gender as composed mostly of assholes who literally hate women.

I apologize for all the white knights who, instead of helping people seriously work on gender issues, only serve to escalate disagreements many times over.

Purpledrank · 2013-03-13T05:54:31+00:00

This is why it is so hard to date/get married in the west. We have forced the majority (all, to some degree even if a little) to hate and fear men. How can anyone be married to a bigot, when bigot hates his very own gender/race? This is why if you want to find love, you need to look past the hateful crowd (those not raised to fear men). Yes man hate is HATE. Someone with even an ounce of that in them is a bigot. What makes it so innocuous is how accepted it is, but don't let widespread acceptance fool you. Never marry/get involved with a bigot.

Cookie4you · 2013-03-13T06:53:37+00:00

Why don't we delete both r/womansrights and r/mensrights and create a new subreddit called r/equality :D

harryballsagna · 2013-03-13T10:26:15+00:00

As a white guy in Japan who gets stated at every day, I have to say I feel for a lot of women in this regard.

While it's physically harmless, it can very much wear you down on a daily basis.

My prescription for anybody who wants a look is to take a quick one and be courteous. Always ask yourself if you might be the 40th person to do that to them today. You might think ogling is a small transgression, but shit like that accumulates.

But I do know that if it's a hot Japanese girl that's staring at me I don't mind as much as if it's a group of old guys a bit too interested because I'm a whitey.

Orimos · 2013-03-13T11:39:53+00:00

So wait, I can't even look at a woman anymore without being oppressive?

procom49 · 2013-03-13T11:49:23+00:00

So women never stare at guys they think are attractive?

chachu420 · 2013-03-13T12:20:07+00:00

I think OP has a vagina!

YouDislikeMyOpinion · 2013-03-13T16:18:05+00:00

The gender is not the culprit, the human brain is.

This affects ladies just as much as men. /r/ladyboners

norlad · 2013-03-13T19:33:23+00:00

At what point do "I'm Sorry" tattoos on baby boy foreheads become vogue?

2013-03-13T21:11:35+00:00

Buhahaha what kind of a man apologizes for this? It's my eyes and my mind i can stare at and think about whatever the hell i want.

DarkestofFlames · 2013-03-12T22:34:54+00:00

How is being stared at a traumatic experience? I can understand for some people who may have been stalked in the past not being comfortable with being stared at excessively. I get stared at by other women more than I do by men. Why isn't it considered traumatic when a woman stares too?

Foreskin_Jizz_Bomb · 2013-03-12T23:25:03+00:00

Beta as fuck.

Ragnar09 · 2013-03-12T23:47:08+00:00

They can bitch all they want but men will continue to stare

MuzakNinja · 2013-03-13T00:13:50+00:00

I'm not sorry for shit. If you're hot, you're hot. If they were sensible they would take it as a complement. We exist as part of nature, and being a "hunter" is part of that nature.

mattlohkamp · 2013-03-13T00:30:14+00:00

Weird. Why would you apologize for something you're not responsible for?

2013-03-13T00:59:48+00:00

He should be ashamed of being a pussy.

Anderfag · 2013-03-13T01:12:34+00:00

My biggest question for this topic has always been: If women don't wear revealing clothing to impress men, why do they wear it?

jamesmech · 2013-03-13T02:01:09+00:00

I gotta say... this is making my eyes bleed.

ThatCynicalCynicism · 2013-03-13T02:11:59+00:00

This is a good example of Poe's Law. Without clear indication of the author's intent, it's pretty much impossible to tell whether it's serious or satire.

AnonTheAnonymous · 2013-03-13T02:59:58+00:00

Haha what a fail.

MutusCarnifex · 2013-03-13T03:21:00+00:00

Scarring trauma from people looking at you due to them finding you attractive? I believe you have agoraphobia.

Armageist · 2013-03-13T03:23:55+00:00

This picture makes me envision the exact opposite of Islamic Fundamentalist society (where women are required to completely cover themselves and restrict themselves for their men's unethical behavior/weakness).

I'd imagine if the feminists have their way, men will be required to wear some type of vision blocker/shades/head cover (worse than sunglasses) as well as a mouthpiece to prevent speaking.

PerniciousOne · 2013-03-13T03:24:57+00:00

When a woman is at a place of business wearing revealing clothing she is most likely doing it for the attention of a specific male, or to taunt the other females in the office.

If you are not the specific male which pays attention to her revealing outfit then you are termed as a creep, or pervert, or sexually harassing her.

If you are the specific male she is attempting to attract then there is absolutely no problems.

When women wear revealing / inappropriate attire to work it is actually sexually harassing the men in the office. Creating a distraction for the other employees can be an issue.

ExpendableOne · 2013-03-13T03:47:19+00:00

He should apologize for being a heterophobic, male vilifying and men hating bigot...and for encouraging/legitimizing that kind of hostile predisposition, and double-standard, from women towards men and male heterosexuality as well. A man who was that offended by being checked out by another man would be called a homophobe in any other situation, and it's disgusting that people would condone that kind of hatred and disdain from women, especially when that hatred or disdain is built on superficial and/or sexist reasons(like, not being offended if another woman, a gay man or a hot guy checks out a woman, while still shaming heterosexual men for their interest).

hyugafan · 2013-03-13T04:03:11+00:00

I've been known to ogle a good pair of hips, but that's just stupid.

ubrayj02 · 2013-03-13T04:09:27+00:00

Where is the apology for all the glares directed at mens' groins? Walk through a public area and any idle woman lands her eyes on the junk of the nearest male. Gross! Ladies, my eyes are up here.

andrewdok · 2013-03-13T04:17:08+00:00

i'm not sorry

nomo2425 · 2013-03-13T04:25:41+00:00

Sorry about your penis.

stillSmotPoker1 · 2013-03-13T04:30:11+00:00

That's just shitty. Start over.

chillmonkey88 · 2013-03-13T04:48:23+00:00

am i the only one who read this and thought they saw sarcasm

scoobie4life · 2013-03-13T05:08:21+00:00

Let me get this straight. So if I stare at a woman walking down the street, I'm an evil chauvinistic pig. I should cut my dick off and never think how a woman looks. Appearance is apart of life. You don't hire some one who looks like a bum and drug addict to run your day care do you? Why should I mate with some one who's body type doesn't benefit my off springs genetic pool to my standards? I'll stare, study, and asses how I damn please. And yes, I pay strippers, females have the right to work as they damn well please. Their profession choice not mine, but I'll help pay them through college or whatever.

fapface420 · 2013-03-13T06:33:15+00:00

Pussies! Get big!

textbooksforrent · 2013-03-13T08:36:49+00:00

Staring can be pretty uncomfortable and creepy sure, but I think staring at someone and checking someone out aren't really the same things.

Men have always and will always check out attractive women, it's literally in our nature. But to me there is a line between checking out an attractive woman and staring at her so long or obviously that it draws unwanted attention. To me there's a big difference.

iamnotfromtexas90 · 2013-03-13T09:34:02+00:00

Ha great satire! We need more jokes in this sub.

2013-03-13T09:43:02+00:00

Reminds me of this. It's well-intentioned, but weak as fuck.

dz1262 · 2013-03-13T11:07:25+00:00

I'm sorry, but I like it when I notice a woman is checking me out. I feel women should be more offended when they don't notice me check because trust me, I look at every woman that passes my eye at some level. You notice my look when you have crossed that threshold of beauty that I just cannot live without taking a second longer stare. When you as an individual have worked both on your physique and in the careful choosing of what articles of clothing and war paint best show off that physique you deserve to be reminded that you did good work every god damn day!

kawaiigardiner · 2013-03-13T12:01:11+00:00

Reminds me of a girl who came into work, I was staring at her because I was shocked at how a person could actually get out of bed believing that it is an appropriate outfit to wear in public given her age.

2013-03-13T13:28:33+00:00

I think I've gone too far to the other extreme when I ride the subway. I so actively avoid looking at anything in the direction of the woman sitting towards me, downright ignore her so much, that they appear to get upset about it. At least judging by their fidgeting I notice in the edge of my vision.

If someone wonders out aloud about my behavior I'll just be "what. Isn't this exactly how you want things to be?"

unexpecteditem · 2013-03-13T15:44:49+00:00

I just want to say how terribly sorry I am that this man has decided to apologize on behalf of you all. I apologize on his behalf.

WARNING: This comment may contain traces of irony.

noodleworm · 2013-03-13T21:59:03+00:00

This is a bit of a generalization.

I think I get that 'staring' can be threatening, imagine some big dude on the subway staring you down. But really I think most guys are more subtle, they glace, and look away if the chicks looking uncomfortable about it.

Gharbadgoatman · 2013-03-14T10:29:56+00:00

First of all, no one should ever have to apologize for someone else's actions.

Secondly, no one asked you to apologize for them so fuck off.

theskepticalidealist · 2013-03-14T19:44:25+00:00

I think a lot of people in this thread need to watch this GirlWritesWhat video:

I'm a sexy woman, so stop objectifying me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-N9daqANcw

SwearWords · 2013-03-15T06:07:56+00:00

Great. Not only did I see a "look how much I care" posts, but I have "Hungry Eyes" stuck in my head. I don't even remember who sings it.

TheLadyEve · 2013-03-12T22:27:34+00:00

I wouldn't call it traumatizing at all, but it is rude, and calling out rudeness is not what I would call "shaming"

theskepticalidealist · 2013-03-13T00:59:15+00:00

Wow. Lol that is really amazing. I hope for parody but...

grantmoore3d · 2013-03-13T03:50:26+00:00

...so we're not allowed to even look at women now?

yandadoo · 2013-03-13T03:51:22+00:00

Excellent! It needed to be said! . . . Now show me your tits!

Salius · 2013-03-13T05:16:19+00:00

Is it rude to stare? I mean I don't do it in an awkward confrontational way, but damn is it hard not to want to look at something that attracts my attention. Be it a girl's massive cleavage or a wacky looking hobo that is mentally ill and talking to himself.

MrConventional · 2013-03-13T11:48:50+00:00

Everyone missed the boat here, entirely. Ripping this out of context is really poor taste. Of these victims who are gang raped in cultures as those in context, they are seen as scum worth less than nothing. Pariahs. They are looked at morbidly like monsters from a horror show.

jessicalala · 2013-03-13T00:36:01+00:00

this is a very pubic apology to make who said made this item.

i am sorry i alled you a ass and sorry i told you that you was a asshole.

Title	Shaming tactics 101! Men who stare!!
Author	EnlightMen
Upvotes	766
Comments	386
Date	March 12, 2013 7:55 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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