So, this is primarily a response to a response but I thought it merited its own thread given we're seeing a lot of discussion around a few issues, namely:
1) A seemingly increasingly high standard demanded by heterosexual women in partners coupled with a genuine willingness from many women to remain single.
2) Accessibility of a range of highly attractive men for women, even if short-term through OLD.
3) The data more-or-less confirming that at a macro-level, women really are content to de-facto share the top 10-15% of men between them, especially throughout their twenties until they wish to settle down.

Now whilst I sympathise hugely for the perfectly good men who unfortunately are going to miss out because they just haven't been blessed with attractiveness, I did make the point that the factors above just can't possibly be avoided given they're all based on a combination of free choice and human biology.

I got the following response which although I disagree, I found very interesting and wanted to bring others into the discussion around.

"They cannot use the “tough” argument as it is going to keep increasing until over 50% of men are sexless.

At which point it starts to make women look bad (it already does). If it gets bad enough, the tough argument stops being valid as it becomes super unreasonable.

To be clear, if women are only attracted to Brad Pitt, would you find the tough argument reasonable? How about only the top 1% or the top 5%?

At a certain point, society will start pushing women to compromise as what we lust after is insignificant. Most humans NEVER got with people who they are attracted too as that is just a useless want"

Now I personally strongly disagree with this. I don't think it'll ever happen for the following reasons.

1) Society counteracting the above trends effectively would literally need to put outright restrictions on people's free choices. You'd need to somehow ban or artificially restrict dating apps, social media and suchlike. Perhaps restrict birth control etc. It would take such a politically extreme action to even begin to make a dent in reversing current trends.

2) The lived experience of women in their twenties especially *is* a positive one when it comes to dating. Your typical woman is having sex / having the opportunity to have sex with a tonne of attractive men above her level. Granted, she may not be able to tie them down but ultimately she's still getting romantic experiences with a lot of attractive men. The 28-year old woman who's living her 'best life' probably genuinely isn't too worried that she won't be able to tie down one eventually given how abundant attractive men are in terms of her lived experience.

Now, on the second point she might be mistaken and there may well be a rude awakening for her in her thirties, but for now her lived experience is simply that attractive men are everywhere and she'll settle down when she wants to.

3) Society is incredibly reluctant to blame women for anything. You can even see the beginnings of this when you look at articles talking about a 'shortage of marriageable men' and saying "I-know-we're-supposed-to-be-feminist-but-let's-be-honest-a-man-has-to-earn-more-than-the-woman-tee-hee".

Cold hard truth? I just cannot for the life of me see any of this stuff changing and I would strongly recommend men who think quite deeply about all this stuff come to terms with it.

Would genuinely love to hear different opinions though and I'm honestly totally open to having my mind changed.