6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?

Fabulous-Housing102 · 2021-12-03T10:24:46+00:00

Why is half of the green flags here to do with things other than the woman herself? Why is this hypothetical woman being blamed for the sins of her parents?

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-12-03T02:41:56+00:00

Ehhh I'm not sure if this can be generalized to all women/everyone. Some people have shitty parents. A person's parents aren't a reflection of who they are or whether they are relationship material or not. People who use these types of points to vet are probably just mentally lazy and/or don't know how to vet properly for themselves so they apply this filter to make things easier for them and save time.

Being kind and having good friends and less experience with casual sex are green flags though, for sure.

Illustrious_Safety25 · 2021-12-03T07:10:25+00:00

Surprise! People who have a secure attachment style thrive more in relationships

quiturbitchn · 2021-12-03T02:08:37+00:00

This is the same things most look for in a male as well just flip the genders in all instances.

Kalvaire · 2021-12-03T04:31:53+00:00

I have all of them but trust me if you put me in the same room as a redpiller they're still going to call me an unmarriageable modern wahman >.<

Kay_Lore · 2021-12-03T02:24:46+00:00

As for traits 1 through 3: Yeah, they’re nice traits to have, but if you start eliminating everyone who’s parents are divorced or have a bad mother or bad father then your dating pool becomes significantly small.

You can learn from your parents’ mistakes and learn what not to do. People who grow up with good, healthy families can sometimes become too sheltered and don’t know how to stop themselves from spiraling or identifying real red flags that someone from a bad family may have grown up seeing and knows to avoid.

Initial_Chemical7121 · 2021-12-03T05:03:38+00:00

I slightly agree, but you also make it harder for yourself. Her father could have always opened the door for her, took her on weekly daddy daughter dates, spoiled her with attention and finances, fixed this for her, etc. Can you do that? If not, you stand no chance. Especially if you could not hold a candle to her father (or even brothers)

Mimoxs · 2021-12-03T04:45:04+00:00

This is untrue I have all of these and I'm still a horrible choice

livs4drpepper · 2021-12-03T02:20:43+00:00

I wanna say my 6 green flags for men

LackOf_Empathy · 2021-12-03T02:04:47+00:00

Spot on, women with these qualities are marriage material.

billsull_02842 · 2021-12-03T06:25:43+00:00

he cant have a green flag with his high body count

ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2021-12-03T09:54:51+00:00

Bahaha yeah uh I'm not going to be dating the girl I'm currently seeing due to logistical issues but she literally only has 1 out of the 6 you mention (good friends) and she's treated me better than any girl in my entire life has treated me. Now you can say oh she's just doing that to try to lock me down - until you realize that she actively dodged trying to get in to a LTR before we had the conversation and was relieved when I told her I wasn't interested in dating exclusively long term in a boyfriend girlfriend sense.

I'll propose some alternative green flags:

-- how a woman treats you when no one is watching

-- how a woman speaks of you to others

-- how enthusiastic the woman is in the bedroom and willing to try new things, always dtf with you, gives you bjs if you want them, etc. That girl made a list of role plays she wants to do and new sex acts she wants to try for the 1st time

-- how enthusiastic the woman is outside of the bedroom and enjoying the time you spend together, willingness to pay her share on dates if you make similar money, willingness to drive to you, willingness to do off the cuff things for you (example; I love trivia and that girl made a home made jeopardy board on PowerPoint with macros and everything, googled fun questions, and we played it). Oh also willingness to try new things together non sexually, I can elaborate there if you want

-- general countenance. Is she a nice human being? To you? To servers and valets? To her friends and family?

--education level and difficulty of major

I'm sure there are more green flags I could think of that aren't off the top of my head right now

Obviously your list is positive characteristics (except the lack of casual sex which isn't positive or negative, just reflective of her sociosexuality) but I'd rather date an educated enthusiastic hot girl who's good in bed but who's family is fucked up than a plain Jane who's kinda lukewarm about it all

JazziestCabbage · 2021-12-03T12:06:09+00:00

No. I’m engaged and I don’t have a good relationship with my dad, I do love him but I didn’t get to see him as much.
No, my mom was a cheater and my dad was addicted to drugs so it didn’t work out between them. Yet I’m still engaged.
My fiancé hates my mom and my mom wasn’t a good parent.

I will add to the above points, the best people I know had a rough time growing up.

Yes, why would you want to date someone who was unkind long term?
Yes, same goes for men. The only person I’ve ever had sex with is my fiancé. But that’s my preference, if engaged in casual sex I’d want someone who had done the same.
Kind of. I don’t have that many friends and I’m autistic

So overall I’d give him a no on everything except 4 and 5.

rurunoa · 2021-12-03T06:11:39+00:00

these things are so general and apply to almost everyone. yeah no shit having a healthy household as opposed to an abusive one produces individuals that are more likely to be in stable mental health🤦🏻 and that dating a kind person is better than dating someone unkind and mean?? are u being serious isn’t that common sense? i think these green flags are unnecessarily attributed to women.

some of them aren’t even your control. nobody asks to be born in a single parent household or with an absent or abusive father figure. also why do you assume the father is an agreeable person to begin with. if my dad is racist i shouldn’t be bonding with him over racism and thus form a good relationship with my dad.

Demasii · 2021-12-03T03:46:14+00:00

We can't control what family we are born into. Why judge a woman based what kind of people her parents are when you can just judge what kind of person she is? Seems pretty simple to me.

It suggests that men need exterior clues because they are unable to properly vet a woman due to being too distracted by their attraction toward her.

PinkSultan · 2021-12-03T03:34:29+00:00

The greenest flag for me is having a rather discreet social media presence or no social media presence at all (especially on Instagram).

If she doesn't care much for social media, it's more likely she won't be self-centred and doesn't care much for OLD. Smaller likelihood of being "damaged goods"...

Booexgirlfriend · 2021-12-03T03:39:25+00:00

Basically, equals match with their equals. The 1), 2) and 3) are nonsense.

But yeah, men should set standards so they can protect themselves from damage.

chalkandapples · 2021-12-03T04:19:55+00:00

This is fair, these are pretty much my standards for men anyways.

ffandyy · 2021-12-03T06:42:38+00:00

6 and 4 seem to be the only qualities that would yield consistently reliable good qualities, the other ones are a crapshoot

Sorcha16 · 2021-12-03T07:05:09+00:00

The marriage one isn't always they stayed together because they have a healthy relationship. What you see in public may not be near how they act when in their own 4 walls.

Willow-girl · 2021-12-03T11:54:58+00:00

My boyfriend says he had a 53-page test to administer to prospective girlfriends, but I skipped it by passing the oral exam.

alias_guy88 · 2021-12-03T06:03:22+00:00

They have a good relationship with their Father

A woman who has a positive relationship with her father is more likely to be of higher value. A father can offer emotional support and educate about various aspects of life. A good relationship with her father gives a woman the ability to trust men, which is key in a high-value relationship

Her parents are still together and married

It depends on the relationship between her parents. They may be pleasant or contentious, but if her parents are still together and married, it indicates that she was raised in a stable home with a strong family unit. However, if they are still amicable but not married, this is an excellent omen in itself, it means her parents have a high level of respect and maturity, a great sign.

She has the same positive traits her mother has

Some women, turn out to be like their fathers. If her father was emotionally unavailable or unsupportive, she may end up being the same way with men. It's important to look for similar traits in both parents to get a better idea of how she will behave in a high-value relationship.

Her personality is kind

In this case, a woman may have a good personality because of the way she was raised. If her parents were kind and supportive then she will likely be kind and supportive too, this I agree 100%

She has less experience with casual sex

I don't agree with this from personal experience. I've dated women who had narcissistic tendencies, and they had a natural talent for keeping men inside their networks. Women with narcissistic tendencies recycle the same men while devaluing and discarding them. These women frequently date and use the same men, switching between them. Sex isn't a high priority for a narcissist, and they utilize sex as a control strategy on occasion. Narcissistic women are often very selective about the men they date, but they don't hold men in high regard. All of this activity indicates that a woman's experiences with casual sex will not prevent her from becoming a high-value partner, unless it is in some extraordinary measure. This is an indication of emotional attachment or issues that are also an issue, implying she doesn't have good control over her emotions. However, neurotic behaviors may be treated with therapy, unlike narcissistic personality disorder. So I believe that a woman's experience with casual sex has some correlation but not always an indicator, with her value as a potential long term partner.

She has high quality friends

I agree with this since high-quality friends = high-quality women. A woman's friends are a good indicator of her personality and values. It implies that she is probably of high value herself if she has high-quality friends. However, I've gone out with women who have a variety of excellent friends and some bad ones, these friends can sometimes leave in an instant, so it's important not to judge too quickly.

Here are some of mine just to add:

She's has a hobby, and values it's important
She has a great sense of humour
She is always striving to improve herself and her life
When you ask for advice, she listens intently and provides thoughtful responses
You can tell that she really cares about the people in her life by how much time she spends with them
She has her own life and isn't needy or co-dependent.

bigfeelzptsd · 2021-12-03T10:59:46+00:00

As a gay woman, no lol none of these apply to my relationships with women and how loving or stable they are

Chaos_and_Horny · 2021-12-03T02:09:34+00:00

Only 4 and 6 makes sense. The rest is bullshit nonsense. Parents arent the ultimate definition for the childs personality. My parents had awful parents, an example that contradicts 1 2 and 3. Amount of casual sex does not define anything 5 does not make sense.

Kindness should be the minimum requirament a person should have, each to their own.
Sometimes not, but what I observe is that we are an average of the people we are close by. Its rare to find sheep among snakes.

baresquad · 2021-12-03T03:31:47+00:00

No, a lot of dad’s suck. I’ve come across plenty of great girls that don’t have relationships with their dads at no fault of theirs
Could go either way. Marriage is hard and sometimes not meant to be forever and being married doesn’t mean it’s a happy one. My first girlfriend that I dated through high school and into college dad was having an affair and she projected all that onto me. But that doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing, a good marriage works here.
Agree. Love a kind and supportive mother
Absolutely. Kindness is key
Absolutely not, I need a girlfriend that’s has to match my past to 1. Avoid insecurity conflicts 2. Sex positivity
Agree. Terrible friends suck and can impact your relationship

Fit-Photograph1646 · 2021-12-03T02:14:50+00:00

Yes. Unicorns are rare though.

Orange_Paisley · 2021-12-03T03:18:33+00:00

I claim 1, 3, 4 and 6. And I take issue with 2 - my parents divorced when I was very young but my mom and stepdad have been together since I was 5 and my dad lived down the block. He came to all the holidays and sometimes to dinner. When he goes back to our home town now, he stays in their guest room. It’s not the same as “parents still together” but I never felt any angst from their divorce because they have remained close and my dad was always considered a member of the immediate family.

flapperfemmefatale · 2021-12-03T04:36:04+00:00

I think having a terrible father taught me early on what to avoid from men. And I'm speaking of his quality as a human being, not as a parent. As a parent, he was mediocre. But he was abusive to both of his wives, committed identity fraud, and spent my siblings' college funds.
Growing up with divorced parents and being raised primarily by my mother, I got to see first-hand that you're better off single than with a partner who does not actually make your life better. Again, major bonus.
My experience is that most people don't turn out like their parents, so I have to question whether this is really valuable.
Agreed.
I don't see an issue with casual sex, so long as you're being responsible. What would be a red flag for me is if a guy ever had an STI or has any ooops babies out in the world.
Agreed.

Bandit174 · 2021-12-03T05:22:07+00:00

I agree with all of those. Also lol @ the women saying "you shouldn't judge women on things they have no control over" as if they don't do the same to men for every trait imaginable.

Side note, its slightly triggering me that you numbered all the points as 1. 😅

dbz19 · 2021-12-03T05:57:51+00:00

These are my 6:

virgin
debt-free
no tattoos
good relationship with her family
in her 20's
open about wanting marriage and children

Laytheblameonluck · 2021-12-03T05:15:21+00:00

As a married man, I totally 100% agree with this guy.

Before people come at him, he has gone in detail numerous times that he used to live the casual sex degenerate lifestyle and looks back at it and hates it.

I actually misunderstood this to mean another good point that was missed...

Women who often get into this party/casual-sex lifestyle later blame men for it, develop really unhealthy sexual perspectives and put barriers to sex in relationships and can even tell the guy he's disgusting for wanting sex, it's in dead bedrooms forum's a lot, and I call it internalised misandry.

FlyingKite1234 · 2021-12-03T05:36:51+00:00

most of these traits are fucking stupid. The fact that in 2021, the number one green flag, isn’t she has a job and can pay for her own shit, just indicates that this list was made by a dude who is insecure. He’s more afraid of her leaving him than actually having a good relationship.

I’ve never seen any of that shit listed there pay a mortgage. I’ve never seen any of that shit listed here qualify for a mortgage. The average man can’t afford a mortgage on his own. But the average man and woman paired up absolutely can, and when the couple are both post secondary educated their earnings are even higher than average.

Not caring about your woman’s profession is the stupidest thing a man can do.

Stoic_Beau · 2021-12-03T04:59:22+00:00

Some of these "flags" aren't really any indicator of anything and are more just circumstantial that could have underlying red flags. Only number 3 was a genuine green flag on its own.

The common theme for the rest, is just a matter on how high their emotional intelligence is to manage their own emotions with themselves and others.

JohnnyMnemo · 2021-12-03T07:43:50+00:00

There are lots of women that have experience with casual sex and look back on that period and hate it. I'm not sure that hating that period of their life is enough, however.

I would agree that any woman that doesn't hate it is a giant red flag, though. May even be a dealbreaker in it's own right.

I have a good friend that had a long period of casual sex, and she has demonstrated an inability to "pair bond" for just that reason. The plural of anecdote is not data, but it does give me pause.

deste_eloise · 2021-12-03T02:50:37+00:00

Man I’m doomed. I have 1/2 of them. 😅

Seriously though, I wouldn’t judge someone based on things that are out of their control but rather how they deal with it.

NarniaFox · 2021-12-03T03:23:09+00:00

Being from a happily married household is a great plus, I agree with it, but it also isn't what I'd vet for specifically. Considering our divorce rates (around 70% in Russia these years if I remember it correctly) and how few good father there are, your dating pool would be almost non-existent.

And where is compatibility and healthy ways of dealing with conflicts and stress in this list? Having still married parents isn't a guarantee that you've seen healthy relationship. Some couples stay married although they're clearly miserable together. A person also can have all green flags in the world, but also very different values and plans on the future.

Edit: I have 4/6. I'm from a single mother household and I worried a bit about it when my husband and I started living together, but later I saw that having no expectations or no patterns that I'd consider "how family life should look like" was a benefit rather than a downside. My husband and I have been together for more than 7 years now, it seems to be working well :)

Aclopolipse · 2021-12-03T04:24:38+00:00

I agree totally with having standards and knowing what you want, but I think this list is a bit too broad to generalize, and is probably more useful for someone looking for a more traditional relationship/marriage.

Everyone else has said, some parents just suck. Dads included. I won't discount anyone for having a bad (or no) relationship with an abusive or neglectful dad.
I think this is a potential red flag. Divorces and family conflict in general are often tramatic for kids, and if I'm dating someone who was affected by this, I'd like to see that they've processed and made peace with whatever family dynamic they came from.
This is just weird. I'm dating someone, not their parent. They can be cool and their parents could be cool, but in totally different ways.
Best one by far. If they're an asshole to strangers or service workers, that's an instant date-ender.
Again, makes sense if you're more traditionally minded. Might make for a clash of values. I'm not convinced having more hookups makes you more likely to cheat, though - I've seen enough tables and charts that use shady strategies like continuing to count partners after the affair.
Another good one. If they surround themselves with honest, good people, it reflects well on them.

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PlayfulLawyer · 2021-12-03T02:14:11+00:00

4 and 6 absolutely, I wouldn't have even dated my wife if those weren't the case, the rest of them are nice, and yeah I would even say green flags but there's higher priority Ones when you're talking about long-term relationship material

Ohyarlysmiles · 2021-12-03T02:48:47+00:00

I generally agree. (1) and (2) are kind of meaningless but for their correlations with the other items on the list.

(4) is tough but as I get older, I find it to be more true than not --- again, because it correlates with other traits.

Jakes1967 · 2021-12-03T06:38:55+00:00

They have a good relationship with their Father

Her parents are still together and married

She has the same positive traits her mother has

Her personality is kind.

She has less experience with casual sex

She has high quality friends

Never thought of it, but definitely YES to all 6, especially number 1 and 4.

My wife ticks these 6 and a few more, such as honest and open communication.

Does she talk about her friends behind her back? Do her friends cheat on their partners or talk shit about you? If so, avoid at all costs.

These are valid points and should also be noted, the lengths and type of relationships should also be noted.

The main one for me, was generosity. A generous spirit was probably the most important trait I was looking for.

Psych0_W0lf · 2021-12-03T07:18:21+00:00

I think it's quite good list

Virtual-Jackfruit243 · 2021-12-03T07:27:37+00:00

Schicksalschatzz · 2021-12-03T07:59:01+00:00

The first and last you listed are definitely majorly important. I would include:

She exhibits discipline and practicality.

She doesn't use social media.

nyaisagod · 2021-12-03T08:16:20+00:00

ITT: People not understanding that green flags aren't criteria, just positive indicators

DiamondLilyD · 2021-12-03T08:31:37+00:00

Before people come at him, he has gone in detail numerous times that he used to live the casual sex degenerate lifestyle and looks back at it and hates it

Aka 'I've had my fun and am ready to settle down with a lucky trad virgin!' lmao un fucking believable.

rredirt · 2021-12-03T09:09:14+00:00

I can only agree with the n6 but still is a stretch you never know what’s the cover hiding

The n4 should be a quality for everyone in general lol

The rest is just somewhat trash

MSA966 · 2021-12-03T09:39:00+00:00

This applies to the 90s and before. In this era, the children have become completely different from their parents

fwoketrash · 2021-12-03T11:28:05+00:00

There are all green flags for sure. I would change 5 to, she has only had sex in LTR's and only a few (<4) LTR's.

I definitely agree though.

2021-12-03T11:45:25+00:00

My partner has 5/6.

Her dad is not the kind of person anyone should have a good relationship.

One of the things I admire about her is that she’s managed to be well adjusted despite her shitty upbringing.

Square_Inflation_534 · 2021-12-03T12:08:46+00:00

u/simptopimp-co-uk

supercreativenamelol · 2021-12-03T12:13:43+00:00

I only agree with #4, 5, and 6. The rest are dumb and don't mean jackshit lol. Bet that the youtuber himself has a high body count. Good luck to him with finding a woman with all those "green flags". He never will and if he does then I feel sorry for her if she ends up dating him

januaryphilosopher · 2021-12-03T12:15:16+00:00

Judging women based on their mothers is a bit weird - children generally have traits from both parents, and it's possible for a woman to mainly take after her father meaning you'd be better off judging his positive traits instead. If you're somehow incapable of just judging the woman you have in front of you and need somebody else as a reference. It's the same kind of thing with her relationship with her father- I don't get why the father specifically is important, how she treats her whole family should be taken into account (as well as what treatment they actually deserve).

oldcamembert · 2021-12-03T12:50:15+00:00

I'd add

Does not badmouth her ex (-es), even if they objectively were shit.

Actually, applicable to both sexes.

anon_enuf · 2021-12-03T13:11:08+00:00

This is nonsense. The only valid point is (obviously) kind personality. My gf doesn't check any of the other boxes & she's great. Furthermore, I've dated women that check most of those boxes, & they're toxic af.

wtknight · 2021-12-03T13:22:19+00:00

What matters is if she is compatible with my personality and my long term goals, not all of this other external stuff.

Yokowi · 2021-12-03T13:49:14+00:00

Thats some dumb shit 😅 I see one that makes sense,and that one is still incomplete.. see her personality as a whole instead of just "kind" 🤣 Women generally have more traits than kind/unkind :D

FreshPrinceOfIndia · 2021-12-03T14:02:48+00:00

What a load of shite, especially points 1-3

kyjolski · 2021-12-03T14:17:53+00:00

Was this list made up by Ben Shapiro by any chance?

ogsimpology · 2021-12-03T14:24:24+00:00

Yes these are good predictors. There are some extra ones, depending on your taste in women, that shows extra character.

1) Is an atheist

Shows better understanding of logical thinking and generally how her thought process works

2) Is tolerant of others

Regarding their ethnicity, sexual orientations, etc.

3) Wants kids

Shows selflessness which is rarer nowadays and the will to sacrifice

Liberal_On_Guns · 2021-12-03T14:46:41+00:00

They have a good relationship with their Father

Her parents are still together and married

Green flags for sure. It's important that she has a positive view of masculinity, and has an innate appreciation for not just men, but what it takes to be virtuous and masculine. None of this applies really if she has a weak father. It might. But if her father impresses you, that's a good sign.

She has the same positive traits her mother has

Kinda hard to tell if you aren't in an LTR already. You should already have an idea of her positive traits before finding out her mother's positive traits. So we can throw this one away.

Her personality is kind

Generic but true of course. This is one the feminists and ladies will "both sides" about. Fact is, while a guy needs some baseline level of kindness, it's not a trait that should "stand out" as is the case with a woman. Desirable men are disagreeable. Being a harsh (but effective) judge of character, ability to say no, and being a self-advocate, are positive masculine traits that do interfere with "kindness" as a trait.

She has less experience with casual sex

This is a big duh, and really the ideal is zero experience with casual sex. I really hope the BPs and feminists accuse me of obsessing over virginity so everyone else can laugh at them. Just don't be a hoe ladies and it will work out.

She has high quality friends

If you end up in a group setting with her friends for the first time, you should watch and learn. Do less talking, and more asking, listening, and observing. But this is true. If her friends give a hoe vibe, or if her friends are feminists, don't get too close.

VastlyVainVanity · 2021-12-03T15:31:51+00:00

Seems reasonable to me.

People get their panties in a bunch because they think "OMG, I DON'T FIT THIS ONE SO IS IT SAYING I'M A BAD CHOICE!?!?" FUCK YOU!.

The whole point of these "flags" is that they suggest something. They're not supposed to be the end all be all of who a person is. Each person is different. A person can have a functional family life and become a serial killer. Another person can come from a broken home and be the kindest soul you'll ever meet.

But in general, these things do matter. AFAIK, most men who end up in jail come from dysfunctional families. So it is reasonable to look at a woman's relationship with her parents and to take it into account when judging her as a romantic partner. No, you shouldn't reduce her to only that, but it is something to take into account.

I swear, this sub is full of people who deal with absolutes. It's like they don't understand how generalizing can be useful. I wonder how everyone who complains about shit like this can live in the real world.

tydamonsign · 2021-12-03T19:00:41+00:00

People don’t control their families. Dating or not dating someone based solely on the choices their family made is idiotic

Throwaway18077 · 2021-12-03T19:46:45+00:00

50% of women’s parents are divorced. Of those 50% I bet only 50% have good relationships with both parents. Now you’re at 25% of women. Of those 25%, only 25% will have minimal casual sex experience and good friendships. Do the math and you’re at 6% of women. Men, of those 6% of women, you’re lucky if .5% is into you.

These standards won’t serve men well. It will make it too difficult to find a woman.

Try caring more about her character than her parents character.

Freedom_Investing · 2021-12-03T21:59:21+00:00

I like this :)

jzadlv180 · 2021-12-03T23:06:30+00:00

1-3 I'm disagree since those "flags" aren't related to the woman itself. I mean, it's not like they (or everyone else including men) can control if they have shitty parent's or not, neither can't avoid your parents to divorce, maybe Is not neccesary that they are shitty parents, maybe they just incompatible.

OwnerAndMaster · 2021-12-03T23:22:09+00:00

100%. Your friend's on the bell.

Vyrnoa · 2021-12-03T23:44:34+00:00

Most of this list wasnt focused on the woman herself but rather her mutuals or relatives. This is not a good way to determine anything because not everyone can find good friends or have proper parents

Scenario: You have abusive parents or dysfunctional marriage situation. Should they stay together? Hell no. Does that make the person any worse? No. Its not guarranteed. Theres a ton of people who grew up in awful family dynamics that have turned out to be kind and amazing people.

Greenrico3 · 2021-12-05T10:36:18+00:00

Hamza is literally idiotic as fuck. He made a video where he said promiscuous women are causing the downfall of society while refusing to acknowledge his own part being the "Chad guy" fucking these women. He is too based being a 6'2" decent looking guy to realize the problems faced by everyday guys and most of his advice about women is dog shit that only he can get away with doing.

TrueStorms · 2021-12-03T04:08:22+00:00

I disagree with the ones a person can’t control or choose but agree with the ones that a person can choose. I don’t believe in total genetic determinism of character and I believe in free will. I’d sooner be with someone who genuinely desires to have good character than someone whose got a great family of origin just for that reason alone. Believe me some people have lovely happily married parents who are pillars of society and their kids are still amoral and selfish.

MsQueenofDanger · 2021-12-03T05:00:28+00:00

4 out of 6 are not about the woman, but determined by others. Why do men, especially RP/incels, are surprised when they can't form normal human relationships with women when they don't see women as individuals with their own free will?

CatoftheBanals · 2021-12-03T06:27:13+00:00

Something like half of marriages end in divorce. Not only that, but couples with a daughter are more likely to divorce. If you’re having a hard time getting a GF now, you really think eliminating half or more of your dating pool will make things easier?

Title	6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?
Author	DrinkItInMan11
Upvotes	62
Comments	333
Date	December 3, 2021 1:59 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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