Feminist Forces /r/science to Change Its Banner From One With Fair Distribution of Sexes to One Of All Women

Roddy0608 · 2013-11-02T17:03:30+00:00

How about a banner with no people?

kjrose · 2013-11-02T16:10:45+00:00

Since the feminist group was successful, I'm guessing other groups should complain accordingly. For example,

Is it just me or is there not a single person of colour in that image? It's all a bunch of white people.

I think someone should protest about that to /r/science to let them know that this is an incredibly racist banner now.

Classh0le · 2013-11-02T18:05:00+00:00

Let's judge people by the gender they're born with and not by their contributions thereafter

OldZippo · 2013-11-02T19:06:56+00:00

Am I missing something here? How is it that they forced the admin to change it? They could have just said no.

skyeliam · 2013-11-02T14:14:38+00:00

Link to original post.

Sharou · 2013-11-02T17:29:07+00:00

As always equality doesn't mean 50/50 but 100% women. Makes me sick.

ZimbaZumba · 2013-11-02T16:43:01+00:00

Cultures need heroes and tales of valor. These stories communicate to its members what the culture considers good, bad, indifferent and normal. We start telling them to our children at an early age.

If you want to socially engineer you need to get control of a culture's myths, legends and heroes. This is what this is all about.

(technical term is Hegemony)

Djaboda · 2013-11-02T14:31:56+00:00

why not try and get more girls to study chemistry or physics and less to study English or women s studies

Bodertz · 2013-11-02T19:27:56+00:00

Unrelated, but I really don't like how much space those banners take up.

freelollies · 2013-11-02T21:52:11+00:00

One of the commenters is complaining about the muppet banner now and how they are two men...hope is fading

Stevonz123 · 2013-11-03T01:57:52+00:00

HA. The banner at /r/science now.

MrDorph · 2013-11-02T19:28:54+00:00

They don't even have a banner anymore, it just says science, see what you've done.

aw3man · 2013-11-02T20:52:57+00:00

Well they changed it again, and I personally like the new one with the muppets guys: Bunsen and Beaker

Goat-headed-boy · 2013-11-02T17:37:18+00:00

Rather than campaigning to help women, feminists today are more likely to be picking fights on Twitter, or dressing up petty grievances as proof of rampant 'sexism'. And, needless to say, these devotees of 'equality' believe you can't be a feminist unless you're Left-wing.

Source.

aaarrrggh · 2013-11-02T21:42:29+00:00

Just saw that they've changed it to show muppet scientists. Hahaha. Love it.

Popeychops · 2013-11-03T01:43:30+00:00

I don't care about replacing the banner based on gender, I care that they replaced Einstein, Dirac, Heisenberg, De Broglie et al with women I don't know about. The only person on the updated banner who is a household name is Curie, and she was already on it (of course).

How the hell are people supposed to be attracted to a banner about science when all the famous scientists are taken off?

dan105 · 2013-11-03T03:10:38+00:00

Assuming the top one is the is the first one, it seems that both photos are different extremes. The first photo shows all guy, and just one woman. The second banner shows just women. Neither of them really seem to be heading in the way of equality.

tubernonster · 2013-11-03T07:08:14+00:00

I saw that thread in my first ever visit to r/feminism yesterday, and most posters thought it was bullshit to demand that more women be represented. 3/20 were women, and that was a generous inclusion, based on the fact that it showed Nobel Prize winners. There aren't many women who win Nobel prizes for science.

I'm a woman, and here is my thought: If you are a woman who is bothered by a lack of representation in the sciences, then go into Science. Major in chemistry instead of women's studies. And then once you go into science, make a noteworthy contribution to the field. Then you may bitch about the banner in r/science. I would say the same to any man bothered by the lack of male teachers in elementary schools. If it bothers you, go into education and be great at it. Everyone just needs to stop bitching about being represented if they aren't willing to be a good representative themselves.

This is ridiculous and petty, as are most things modern feminists bawk about. There are real womens' issues worldwide like genital mutilation, the sexualization of young girls, and Women being denied educational opportunities. And a proclaimed feminist takes time out of her busy feministing to bitch about a fucking IMAGE on one forum of a website? Wake up, slacktivists. Go make a real contribution to the world instead of trying to control people on the internet. Spoiler alert: liking a photo on Facebook also doesn't stop a genocide and posting your bra color doesn't raise awareness for anything.

2013-11-02T16:26:10+00:00

This is fucking disgraceful.

kragshot · 2013-11-02T19:29:40+00:00

Alright...this falls under the heading of "choose your battles." Now, if there are members of this sub who are also active posting members of r/science, then by all means, go to the mods over there and voice your concern.

But the decisions made by the r/science mods is not one that we on r/mensrights should be up in arms about. Yes, we know all about feminist bullying and it's effects. This topic is a clear cut example of such behavior and we should discuss it in that context alone.

I for one, am not an active poster on r/science. I go there from time to time as I consider myself a science enthusiast. But I do not post there enough to to believe that I should have a say about their banner/header. Let the sub regulars hash that out if they wish. Now if some feminist bullies came into r/DJs and started up some crap, I'd wade in there ready to slug it out.

Furthermore, as we have seen that the admins are more than a little "feminist-leaning," this could be the proverbial "hornet's nest" that will start them again actively fucking with us in here.

I say again; if you are an active member of r/science then by all means get in there and fight the good fight. But this isn't our fight collectively.

Muffinizer1 · 2013-11-02T18:35:08+00:00

Who cares? Honestly? I don't feel women being represented on the /r/science banner, even if entirely, threatens anyone's rights. This is stupid, but so is being offended by either banner. It's a fucking header image get over yourselves. Feminists and mras.

irbananaking · 2013-11-02T22:14:13+00:00

And now its Muppets.

Raudskeggr · 2013-11-03T02:07:05+00:00

Then the user, who is obviously some SRS sockpuppet (and one of two used in this, another was created to nominate that post in /r/bestof) got all butthurt for being downvoted...and accused this subreddit of being responsible. I rather doubt that. But even if it was, they couldn't hold it responsible and not SRS For its various brigades.

Blemish · 2013-11-03T21:34:54+00:00

She was complainin about too many men and too few women. However the mod did the same scenario ...but except this time. ..in favor of women.

At this point...she said it was beautiful.

So she never really favored equality for both sexes.

After cringely gettin her to admit it...the mod made it 2 male puppets

cypher197 · 2013-11-02T18:25:35+00:00

So I messaged the mods there asking if I missed a statement or faq about this change.

I confess at the moment I think it's an amusing change though I am offended there only seem to be ciswomen in that banner and no transwomen. And make no mistake many scientists are transwomen, in fact, I sort of suspect it exceeds the average in the rest of society.

I do wonder more why there is no easily available science meta forum, or just who any of those folks in either banner are.

warspite88 · 2013-11-02T18:12:01+00:00

well the best part will be if feminists come back and say "wait, we didn't mean a banner with all women, just one with mixed genders" but you see they wont, they will be perfectly fine with an all female banner which shows their sexist bigotry loud and clear.

IMULTRAHARDCORE · 2013-11-02T22:08:12+00:00

I almost feel like /r/science 's response was a subtle dig. "Oh it's not fair to represent a mix of famous scientists on our banner? Here sweetie let's change that to all women for you. Better now?"

2013-11-02T21:18:51+00:00

Seems the banner has been changed to all male again.

http://np.reddit.com/r/science/

OldSchoolNewRules · 2013-11-03T01:57:26+00:00

There is not a single complaint thread about the banner in /r/science, they just keep on sciencing away. Almost as if it doesn't matter at all.

cody_au · 2013-11-03T08:58:48+00:00

Shrug, including women sounds like a good idea. Replacing it all with women for a period of time before going equal also sounds fine.

The problem is how long is long enough? Some feminists argue that men should be subservient to women for as long as women were subservient to men (allegedly the entirety of human history as we know it). And I don't buy that argument.

Wiiboy95 · 2013-11-02T18:03:12+00:00

welcome to feminism, where your achievements don't matter, only your gender

nobody2000 · 2013-11-02T18:23:25+00:00

For a sub that's pretty good about deleting nonsense comments, they sure put up with a lot of nonsense when it comes to their banner.

insideman83 · 2013-11-02T21:21:29+00:00

So many young girls are going to be scientists now from the banner change. Omg good work you guys. We did it

jessemfguire87 · 2013-11-03T00:58:11+00:00

Is it man's fault that they made all the really important discoveries?

kencabbit · 2013-11-02T16:48:04+00:00

As far as battles go, this isn't one I'd take up arms for. It's an interesting note, though.

fyradiem · 2013-11-02T18:22:34+00:00

It's important to consider how a site banner affects all users. How it affects male-chauvinists ranks very low on that list.

Typical tripe and childish dismissals of discussion, let's think of everyone but let me class you as less then human scum first so you don't count for shit. How much where you thinking of "everyone" crying and bullying people to get your own way. Just like Anita, a massive coward and bully and yet she's rewarded and put to talk about the effects of bullying as a victim... brb let me just put up the person who pour hot coffee on me for the nobel peace prize. You've all been "taught" well (brain washed more like).

BatmanBrah · 2013-11-02T19:41:53+00:00

Next thing you know they'll have a WW2 movie where they're forced to have women as half of the soldiers storming the beaches.

starhawks · 2013-11-02T18:46:16+00:00

So, being all women, they completely left out all the physicists who reshaped our understanding of the universe; Dirac, Planck, Einstein, Schrodinger and more. This is fucking disgraceful.

dejour · 2013-11-02T17:26:44+00:00

Ask them to change it to half and half.

toysjoe · 2013-11-02T19:55:56+00:00

So if one of our users filed a complaint that the banner is all women....then what are they going to do?

2013-11-03T10:22:45+00:00

:D and /r/science is like. "We don't give a fuck...we just want to discuss science >.< here have it stupid kindergarten women we now go on discussing science in peace"

That is my guess on the immediate change.

Keiichi81 · 2013-11-02T18:59:26+00:00

Look at all that equality!

ShaidarHaran2 · 2013-11-02T20:14:32+00:00

The banner I see there doesn't show either of those, it just says science. Maybe there was a second backlash?

samsc2 · 2013-11-03T00:00:40+00:00

How about instead of a banner with peoples pictures its becomes a large timeline of humanities history and all the amazing science breakthroughs we've made over the years? Its pretty impossible to ever fairly show faces of scientists in which groups feel equally represented. Either that or they could do a nomination link for scientists to be displayed by giving their name, the important work they did, and maybe a small pic link.

Didalectic · 2013-11-03T02:26:32+00:00

A place where I had least expected facts and scientific method to be replaced with ideology is /r/science...

2013-11-03T06:43:06+00:00

Should be Bill Nye all the way across.

gsettle · 2013-11-03T13:08:52+00:00

Y'all remember this one thing, "Fair is where people go to watch pigs race for cookies".

Vordreller · 2013-11-04T08:21:44+00:00

Update: I just had a daily look at the articles and noticed the banner is now this: http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/CwQlw9Y1ZVq8CspS.png

:D

bottlefly22 · 2013-11-02T22:14:42+00:00

feminists didn't force anybody. They gave in like pussies.

ReallyBadMemes · 2013-11-02T22:38:14+00:00

I don't see anything wrong with this. Those women deserve recognition too.

nick012000 · 2013-11-02T15:47:52+00:00

Unfortunately, /r/science is doubtlessly dominated by Leftists, and given that they knuckled under to even the slightest hint of Feminist disapproval, it's unlikely that they'll change it back. I encourage everyone to modmail their moderators, though!

Here's the message I sent them:

Change the banner back, to the original, accurate banner, from the woman-dominated monstrosity you replaced it with after feminists started complaining. The fact of the matter is that the sciences are dominated by men, and always have been (since almost all the women go into the soft sciences instead, and those don't really count). As a result, a banner dominated by men is a much more accurate reflection of reality than your overly-PC all-woman banner, and as such, it should have been upheld.

Please, do not give in to feminist threats and harassment. Stand up for what is right: a rigorous examination of the world around us, without allowing ideology to cloud our perceptions. That is, after all, what Science is.

Cedru · 2013-11-02T18:48:51+00:00

So much need for gender segregation from the feminists, it's really hard to trust them as being impartial.

Blemish · 2013-11-02T22:38:12+00:00

"forces"....

Sevion · 2013-11-02T16:27:01+00:00

Guys, guys, guys. Holy fuck. Calm down a second and actually read the comments OP linked. As far as I can see, most people in the comments aren't on the level of the autism here. The title of this thread is just as misleading as the title of the thread OP linked on /r/Feminism.

I'm all for MRA, but when MRA starts being more about supremacy than equality, it's a huge turn off. It's a huge turn of hypocrisy...

Equality not Supremacy.

truthspieler · 2013-11-02T17:44:04+00:00

Truly, men are victims on this day.

KevyB · 2013-11-02T22:06:50+00:00

This is pathetic, and why the hell was this bitch even taken seriously?

Not one rational woman over at /r/feminism even considers her mentally intact.

aaarrrggh · 2013-11-02T21:40:54+00:00

What a bunch of heroic whinging cunts.

mindscent · 2013-11-03T13:04:50+00:00

If r/feminism could force subreddits to change, don't you think they would have been all over this one? r/science thought the suggestion to include women was a good one. You haven't been victimized, calm down.

Thisaccountwilldie · 2013-11-02T16:07:04+00:00

The first one did only have one woman. Why not just do it equally?

DangerDick26 · 2013-11-02T19:20:28+00:00

That doesn't even make sense, women's brains don't even science. It's scientifically proven.

2013-11-02T18:40:44+00:00

Fucking nerds.

apathos_destroys · 2013-11-02T15:18:07+00:00

A rather appropriate response to harassment, I think.

Title	Feminist Forces /r/science to Change Its Banner From One With Fair Distribution of Sexes to One Of All Women
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Date	November 2, 2013 2:13 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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